[06:48] <mlankhorst> morning
[07:00] <tjaalton> ditto
[07:22]  * mlankhorst pokes RAOF with the x-1.13 stack
[07:22] <mlankhorst> oh right, need to wait until xorg-server finishes first
[07:23] <mlankhorst> but you forgot to push the changes to git :)
[08:02] <mlankhorst> can someone push libxrandr 1.4.0 to debian?
[08:14] <jcristau> maybe in a couple hours
[08:16] <mlankhorst> thanks
[08:16] <mlankhorst> I seem to have the power to do upstream releases now for most of xorg
[08:19] <mlankhorst> or at least for drivers nobody cares about, they might get upset if I do it for anything important :)
[22:10] <Sarvatt> whatever you do, dont look at #xorg-devel scrollback unless you never nightmare flashbacks about synaptics bugs in ubuntu :)
[22:10] <Sarvatt> err unless you want nightmare flashbacks
[22:14] <mlankhorst> Sarvatt: they still exist..
[22:14] <mlankhorst> someone came in here complaining about it today
[22:14] <Sarvatt> thats a real bug though
[22:14] <mlankhorst> indeed
[22:14] <Sarvatt> majority of the bugs on launchpad for it are, please change the default settings :)
[22:21] <ricotz> Sarvatt, hey :)
[22:22] <Sarvatt> ricotz: heyo man, whats up?
[22:23] <ricotz> Sarvatt, do you like to fire up a all-video/input build in edgers?
[22:24] <Sarvatt> ricotz: i can do that, didnt have time to get to the server today first but driver rebuilds are trivial
[22:24] <mlankhorst> ricotz: we need one in main, actually
[22:24] <ricotz> Sarvatt, i can copy 1.13rc3 to edgers quantal
[22:24] <mlankhorst> oh it's rc3 now? sigh
[22:25] <Sarvatt> ricotz: ok i'll get the driver builds ready now
[22:25] <ricotz> ok, i will copy it
[22:25] <Sarvatt> ricotz: just quantal or precise too?
[22:25] <mlankhorst> Sarvatt: actually can you try the ubuntu one directly in quantal?
[22:25] <Sarvatt> i'm going to upload both regardless
[22:26] <mlankhorst> it's on rc2 atm
[22:26] <Sarvatt> oh good point its already in quantal
[22:26] <ricotz> Sarvatt, i guess 1.13 only for quantal now, but rebuilding both?
[22:26] <Sarvatt> i could have done the drivers.. grargh
[22:26] <Sarvatt> i'll just do the drivers now, doesnt matter that server isnt built
[22:26] <Sarvatt> yeah rebuilding both is easier, i'll rebuild both again when we do 1.13 in precise
[22:27] <mlankhorst> we dropped the rethrow signal patch in favor of adding -core :)
[22:28] <mlankhorst> and personally I'm on he next iteration of dma-fence again.. deadlocks are fun
[22:28] <ricotz> Sarvatt, i will just copy mtrack, multitouch, tslib and wacom too
[22:28] <Sarvatt> rebuildings uploading, openchrome, geode, evdev will be busted after
[22:29] <Sarvatt> qxl
[22:29] <ricotz> mlankhorst, x11proto-randr isnt there yet?
[22:29] <mlankhorst> Sarvatt: geode's not that busted, and all the other drivers are updated in debian git
[22:29] <mlankhorst> ricotz: pretty sure it's uploaded for quantal at least
[22:30] <mlankhorst> Sarvatt: had to move openchrome from git-svn to real git :)
[22:31] <Sarvatt> suppose i should check before i let this run more... xserver 1.13-rc2 actually got published to quantal and the archive is broken right?
[22:31] <Sarvatt> not -proposed?
[22:32] <Sarvatt> phew glad i checked, its proposed
[22:32] <mlankhorst> ;)
[22:32] <ricotz> mlankhorst, 1.4.0 isnt there yet
[22:32] <ricotz> Sarvatt, the 1.13 isnt published yet in edgers though
[22:32] <mlankhorst> ricotz: not in proposed either ? sigh
[22:33] <Sarvatt> ricotz: yeah i thought it was uploaded directly to quantal, just have to reupload mga and vmware
[22:33] <ricotz> Sarvatt, you are to fast
[22:33] <ricotz> ;)
[22:33] <ricotz> the ppa is building without proposed
[22:33] <Sarvatt> argh intel too, this script is too fast
[22:33]  * mlankhorst replaces Sarvatt with a script
[22:34] <Sarvatt> worst case i'll just set my clock ahead a day and redo it all
[22:34] <Sarvatt> :P
[22:34] <ricotz> Sarvatt, i enabled the proposed pocket so it picks it up
[22:34] <ricotz> the quantal version so the dependency should work
[22:35] <ricotz> so only mga will be broken
[22:35] <Sarvatt> unless it started building, i uploaded 4 packages to both quantal and precise in that minute before checking
[22:36] <ricotz> i guess all should be fine besides mga
[22:36] <Sarvatt> really i'll set my clock ahead a few hours and reupload just in case, we'll just miss 50 intel sna commits tomorrow doing that
[22:36] <mlankhorst> RAOF: is the rest of the stack coming btw?
[22:37] <Sarvatt> ricotz: do you do anything special with nvidia-settings to update it btw?
[22:37] <ricotz> Sarvatt, using origin/debian-experimental would be the correct one
[22:37] <ricotz> ?
[22:38] <ricotz> Sarvatt, no, just a plain uupdate
[22:38] <Sarvatt> downloading tar.bz2, extracting, copying old debian/, bumping version, rebuilding doesnt work
[22:38] <ricotz> so you can just copy/rebuild you packages over
[22:38] <Sarvatt> (rebuilding new orig.tar.gz in between there too)
[22:38] <mlankhorst> Sarvatt: ugh for all xserver-xorg-video-* there are fairly recent versions in git
[22:38] <ricotz> Sarvatt, yeah since it is debsrc 1.0
[22:40] <Sarvatt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1122381/ hit that earlier and didnt look into it more
[22:40] <ricotz> Sarvatt, i can upload nvidia-settings
[22:40] <ricotz> it is small enough ;)
[22:40] <Sarvatt> cool beans, appreciate it
[22:40] <ricotz> Sarvatt, you can copy the blob
[22:40] <Sarvatt> i'll copy nvidia-graphics-drivers over from the other ppa
[22:43] <mlankhorst> how are all the ppa drivers generated?
[22:43] <mlankhorst> do they follow debian git or..
[22:44] <Sarvatt> mlankhorst: which ppa?
[22:45] <Sarvatt> xorg-edgers, i run sarvatt-update-ppa.sh, and maintain the hooks which alter the packaging in hooks/
[22:45] <mlankhorst> edgers
[22:45] <mlankhorst> ah
[22:45] <Sarvatt> everythings on debian-unstable branches besides a few drivers using ubuntu branches at the moment
[22:45] <mlankhorst> yeah I just update all debian packaging directly
[22:45] <ricotz> Sarvatt, debian-experimental?
[22:45] <Sarvatt> yeah cant do that for things like mesa which need insane amounts of changes
[22:46] <mlankhorst> in this case, debian-experimental has all the more recent versions right now
[22:46] <Sarvatt> ricotz: artifical xorg-server version bumps to use experimental ones, would need hooks for every driver to lower the build deps
[22:46] <mlankhorst> Sarvatt: right now all video drivers have been updated in d-e
[22:46] <mlankhorst> unless I missed a couple
[22:46] <Sarvatt> yeah but we dont have xserver 1.13 in precise and i update 2 releases at once
[22:47] <mlankhorst> ah
[22:47] <ricotz> Sarvatt, ah ok
[22:47] <Sarvatt> need to build dep on xserver 1.13-rcwhatever to have it pulled it during the build in experimental or it builds against unstables i thought
[22:48] <mlankhorst> Sarvatt: what about other protos, any more needed for precise that are no longer needed in quantal?
[22:48] <Sarvatt> just the 3 i copied, the ones ya updated
[22:49] <mlankhorst> ah perfect, need to sru those then :)
[22:49] <Sarvatt> oh no
[22:49] <Sarvatt> they arent needed in the distro
[22:49] <Sarvatt> just in edgers where 1.13 will be shoved in eventually :)
[22:49] <Sarvatt> i think mesa requires some of them now anyway
[22:49] <mlankhorst> if they're needed for building they should be sru'd to precise eventually
[22:50] <Sarvatt> hey thats a good point
[22:50] <Sarvatt> not going to be renamed?
[22:51] <Sarvatt> this is going to be such a mess come ubuntu-s :)p
[22:51] <mlankhorst> nah I plan on just renaming xorg, xorg-server and the drivers
[22:51] <mlankhorst> renaming core packages is infinitely more complex
[22:51] <Sarvatt> never know what kind of crazy things are going to happen, xserver 1.7 was the most insane one i went through
[22:52] <mlankhorst> oh with the dri2 crap?
[22:52] <Sarvatt> crazy header changes in it, moving from protos to libfoo-dev packages
[22:52] <mlankhorst> look if that happens in the future we can revisit how we deal with it
[22:53] <mlankhorst> but it looks like it doesn't happen for quantal so I rather keep the changes simple and isolated
[22:53] <Sarvatt> totally :) its been sane for a few years after that
[22:54] <Sarvatt> this would have worked fine for lucid->precise
[22:54] <mlankhorst> besides, if i had a crystal ball to predict the future I would use it to make a killing in the stock markets
[22:54] <mlankhorst> :p
[23:01] <Sarvatt> Wed Aug  1 00:00:57 EDT 2012
[23:01] <Sarvatt> driver update script rerunning :)
[23:15] <Sarvatt> argh ubuntu branches got updated to debian-experimental, fixing it up for the few drivers using those :)
[23:17]  * mlankhorst whistles innocently, blames chanserv
[23:42] <Sarvatt> note to self: adjust time zones not the actual times so you don't screw up make next time
[23:43] <mlankhorst> I was actually waiting for that to happen
[23:44] <Sarvatt> i usually moved to australia for a few minutes when i do that, oh well :)