| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| inetpro | good morning | 06:01 |
|---|---|---|
| * Kilos greets ubuntu-za | 06:45 | |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 06:45 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 06:45 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 06:49 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 06:50 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 06:50 |
| Kilos | hi yusuf_ | 06:50 |
| Kilos | morning maiatoday | 07:17 |
| maiatoday | hi Kilos | 07:17 |
| charlvn | goomorning | 07:32 |
| charlvn | *good morning | 07:32 |
| charlvn | hi Kilos, maiatoday | 07:33 |
| maiatoday | hi charlvn | 07:34 |
| Kilos | yo charlvn | 07:34 |
| Kilos | bbl | 07:39 |
| superfly | morning all | 09:44 |
| charlvn | morning superfly | 09:48 |
| charlvn | how's it going | 09:48 |
| superfly | busy | 09:49 |
| superfly | taking a break right now | 09:49 |
| Kilos | hi superfly and whoever i missed this morning | 09:55 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 09:55 |
| superfly | Kilos: I wasn't around till about 10 minutes ago anyway | 09:56 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:56 |
| Kilos | inetpro, you awake yet? | 10:00 |
| Kilos | hi drussell all good? | 10:27 |
| Kilos | we all maintain | 10:27 |
| drussell | Kilos: yup all good here, you? | 10:30 |
| Kilos | good ty | 10:34 |
| Kilos | hmmm...pc showed there are restricted drivers available. it is for the nvidia card. let it download and install and now cant switch workspaces. stuck on one desktop. | 11:04 |
| Kilos | any ideas please | 11:04 |
| Kilos | was nvidia 173 | 11:04 |
| Kilos | havent even got a clue what to google for | 11:05 |
| Kilos | or is there a way to switch with keyboard? | 11:07 |
| Kilos | its like using winsucks | 11:15 |
| Kilos | grrr | 11:15 |
| superfly | Kilos: ctrl+f1? | 11:17 |
| superfly | ctrl+f2, etc | 11:17 |
| Kilos | ty superfly | 11:17 |
| Kilos | aw dont work | 11:18 |
| magespawn | afternoon | 11:24 |
| superfly | hi magespawn | 11:33 |
| magespawn | hey superfly, what up/ | 11:33 |
| magespawn | ? | 11:33 |
| superfly | nothing much | 11:33 |
| superfly | trying not to fall asleep | 11:33 |
| magespawn | and the family? | 11:34 |
| magespawn | shame on you, new baby keeping you giys up? | 11:34 |
| magespawn | giys/guys | 11:34 |
| superfly | family is mostly fine | 11:35 |
| superfly | jojo is actually a pretty good baby | 11:35 |
| superfly | having more issues with the monster than the baby | 11:35 |
| magespawn | the monster? | 11:38 |
| magespawn | the 1st born? | 11:41 |
| superfly | yes | 11:41 |
| superfly | the toddler | 11:42 |
| magespawn | big changes in the little ones life now too. make him? a part of it as much as possible. | 11:43 |
| superfly | magespawn: yep, doing that | 11:48 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 11:48 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos | 11:48 |
| magespawn | thats the best way to handle it I have found superfly | 11:49 |
| magespawn | superfly how do you stream SA radio stations in Ubuntu? | 11:49 |
| superfly | magespawn: I don't listen to much radio, but you should be able to use VLC if your default media player can't handle it | 11:50 |
| superfly | just copy the URL on the site | 11:50 |
| magespawn | tried that came up with a missing pulgin MMSH. so installed the gstreamer plugin but still says pulgin is missing | 11:51 |
| magespawn | duh somehow missed that plugin when I was selecting the ones to install | 11:55 |
| Kilos | brb remove nvidia again now must reboot | 11:57 |
| Kilos | yay got all 9 workspaces working again but no nvidia | 12:01 |
| magespawn | cool Kilos. | 12:04 |
| Kilos | superfly, will it be better to try get that nvidia 173 driver via synaptic | 12:04 |
| Kilos | lol not cool magespawn | 12:04 |
| magespawn | installed the missing plugin but still no luck with sa stations. | 12:04 |
| superfly | Kilos: that's the same one | 12:04 |
| Kilos | whats the good of a fancy graphics card that you cant use | 12:05 |
| superfly | Kilos: what graphics card do you have? | 12:05 |
| Kilos | installed the same way superfly ? | 12:05 |
| Kilos | lspci ? | 12:05 |
| superfly | well, since you're trying to install the nvidia driver, I can only assume you know what card you have | 12:06 |
| Kilos | nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] (rev a1) | 12:06 |
| Kilos | i tried to install it because i got a popup screen saying there are restricted drivers available | 12:07 |
| superfly | ah, FX 5500 | 12:07 |
| Kilos | thats what lspci gives | 12:08 |
| Kilos | oh you know it? | 12:08 |
| superfly | Kilos: install nvidia-current | 12:08 |
| Kilos | just with aptitude? | 12:08 |
| superfly | any package management app | 12:08 |
| Kilos | i like aptitude, it gives you alternative fixes sometimes | 12:09 |
| charlvn | good afternoon\ | 12:11 |
| charlvn | phew what a hectic day | 12:11 |
| Kilos | hi charlvn | 12:11 |
| Kilos | voda foned last night and asked if i am happy with my connection now. was great last night | 12:12 |
| Kilos | yes ty very much i said | 12:12 |
| Kilos | now getting 4kB/s | 12:13 |
| Kilos | grr | 12:13 |
| charlvn | bah | 12:13 |
| charlvn | that is not good | 12:13 |
| Kilos | yesterday it jumped tween 200 and 400kB/s | 12:13 |
| charlvn | 4kbps is dial-up modem speed | 12:13 |
| charlvn | *4kBps | 12:14 |
| Kilos | this Bytes not bits | 12:14 |
| Kilos | ah | 12:14 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:14 |
| charlvn | yeah that's what i meant sorry | 12:14 |
| Kilos | i look where i am typing so dont see incoming, sorry | 12:14 |
| Kilos | yay gone to 15 kB/s | 12:15 |
| charlvn | maybe the tower is too busy during the day, too many calls / too much data going in and out | 12:17 |
| Kilos | ah, not the internet battling? | 12:17 |
| charlvn | that's unfortunately a problem with a lot of umts systems | 12:17 |
| charlvn | hmmm no idea about that but i would think vodacom would have plenty of capacity on their backbone | 12:18 |
| Kilos | that crooked thing? | 12:18 |
| Kilos | hehe | 12:18 |
| charlvn | yeah lol | 12:18 |
| superfly | magespawn: which radio station is that? | 12:24 |
| * superfly just popped the URL from a local community station into Amarok, and it just worked | 12:24 | |
| charlvn | amarok is good, i usually just use vlc to play the stations and it works pretty well too | 12:30 |
| charlvn | hi zeref | 12:33 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| magespawn | superfly almost any one, I am trying for east coast radio | 12:41 |
| magespawn | charlvn doe listen to sa stations? | 12:41 |
| magespawn | doe/do you | 12:42 |
| smile | hi :) | 12:43 |
| magespawn | okay now all of a sardine it is working | 12:44 |
| magespawn | wierd | 12:44 |
| Kilos | hi smile | 12:44 |
| Kilos | superfly, must i install the nvidia 173 as well or is nvidia-current enough? | 12:45 |
| smile | hi Kilos :D | 12:46 |
| superfly | Kilos: did I said nvidia-173 or nvidia-current? | 12:46 |
| Kilos | aptitude did lotsa work installing that | 12:46 |
| Kilos | lol you said current superfly | 12:47 |
| Kilos | but didnt explain nicely that current wasnt just needed to make 173 work | 12:47 |
| Kilos | like a plugin addon thingie | 12:48 |
| Kilos | so magespawn tell me what is supposed to look better or different with a better graphics card? | 12:56 |
| Kilos | apart from accepting unity now that is | 12:57 |
| superfly | Kilos: it usually makes your computer work slightly faster, because a lot of the GUI stuff gets handled by the graphics card instead of the CPU | 12:58 |
| Kilos | oh ty superfly thats good to know | 12:58 |
| Kilos | though it would be 3d and a fist would come out and punch me | 12:59 |
| superfly | haha, no | 12:59 |
| superfly | it just means that a lot of the small things that make your GUI smoother now work | 13:00 |
| Kilos | great ty very much | 13:00 |
| === smile is now known as smile-verweg | ||
| magespawn | games videos and such should work smoother and faster. the graphics card takes some of the processing away from the cpu | 13:23 |
| charlvn | magespawn: sorry for the slow response, been afk | 13:40 |
| charlvn | magespawn: usually not but sometimes i listen to stations from here: http://antfarm.co.za/ | 13:40 |
| magespawn | unity should also work better, compiz and the other desktop managers will allow the pretty stuff | 13:40 |
| magespawn | np charlvn | 13:41 |
| magespawn | east coast radio is now working had to install the right codec | 13:41 |
| Kilos | ty magespawn will look into going further once i have unity on this drive | 13:41 |
| Trixar_za | Yes, you can't have disorder on your drive | 13:42 |
| Kilos | wasting data getting more stuff for maverick | 13:42 |
| Kilos | hiya Trixar_za hehe | 13:42 |
| Trixar_za | Not sounding any better | 13:42 |
| Kilos | ? | 13:43 |
| Trixar_za | There's a Linux distribution called Unity | 13:43 |
| Trixar_za | Well, Maverick and Unity | 13:43 |
| Kilos | yes thats what i am refering to | 13:43 |
| Trixar_za | To Ubuntu terms that can be used differently :P | 13:43 |
| Kilos | i have maverick here and am going to install 12.04 unity before wating more data on maverick | 13:44 |
| Trixar_za | The Madrivia based fork that uses SMART package management? | 13:44 |
| Trixar_za | http://unity-linux.org/ | 13:44 |
| Trixar_za | Also it was named before the Unity desktop | 13:44 |
| Trixar_za | :p | 13:44 |
| Kilos | ah | 13:45 |
| Trixar_za | Nice bunch of guys though | 13:45 |
| Trixar_za | Shame about the loss of team members. Especially the Kernel experts | 13:46 |
| Kilos | eish that will hurt | 13:46 |
| Trixar_za | I was looking around at other small Linux distros when I lost faith in SliTaz's development | 13:47 |
| Trixar_za | Funny enough, I ended up back at SliTaz and fixed the issues myself, even providing the ppp fix to correct the biggest issue I was having | 13:48 |
| Trixar_za | I'm like a Sayan. I just come back stronger :P | 13:48 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 13:59 |
| magespawn | see you guys later | 14:00 |
| Kilos | later magespawn | 14:01 |
| Kilos | see you guys tonight. go home safe and enjoy supper | 14:06 |
| Kilos | thats you too superfly | 14:06 |
| Trixar_za | bbl | 14:08 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| === smile-verweg is now known as smile | ||
| * smile zingt lekker mee met http://zimnet.radio.de/ | 16:03 | |
| charlvn | hi all | 17:04 |
| charlvn | welcome back smile | 17:04 |
| smile | charlvn: thanks :D | 17:09 |
| smile | do you know yfm? :p | 17:09 |
| smile | @ charlvn | 17:10 |
| Kilos | well duh! | 18:06 |
| Kilos | charlvn, superfly you guys leave me to sukkel hey | 18:06 |
| Kilos | nuvolari, ping | 18:07 |
| Kilos | inetpro, ping jy ook | 18:07 |
| superfly | Kilos: yes :-P | 18:07 |
| Kilos | hahaha no one told me a sata drive wont be seen till one has installed something from the mb cd to let it see sata drives | 18:08 |
| Kilos | yo roryy | 18:08 |
| Kilos | decided to install xp on that unhappy 20g drive and see if i can now install AOE3 | 18:09 |
| roryy | hi | 18:10 |
| Kilos | then no audio and some other sis stuff. but luckily when ian was here years ago i copied his gigabyte cd | 18:10 |
| Kilos | so how would one get to use a sata drive if the mb battery was flat and didnt remember that it must enable sata??? | 18:13 |
| superfly | Kilos: you sukkel because you make yourself sukkel | 18:14 |
| Kilos | hi Tonberry tonberryE352 | 18:14 |
| Kilos | lol no no no | 18:14 |
| Kilos | with sata connected pc screen didnt even come on | 18:14 |
| Kilos | but now i can see it just dunno how to tell bios to boot from it | 18:15 |
| superfly | Kilos: that doesn't make any sense, I've been using SATA drives for ages | 18:15 |
| Kilos | then i can go 12.04 on it | 18:15 |
| superfly | no need to do anything | 18:15 |
| Kilos | you most likely didnt have battery out so bios forgot about satas | 18:16 |
| Kilos | its actually an instalable goodie on the gigabyte cd | 18:17 |
| Kilos | seriel ATA something or other | 18:17 |
| Kilos | enables sata | 18:17 |
| charlvn | smile: yfm is a south african station right? didn't used to like it very much though | 18:20 |
| charlvn | Kilos: yeah that is rather strange indeed, i use sata drives without any hassle | 18:21 |
| Kilos | wow even if the mb battery dies | 18:21 |
| roryy | Kilos: how old is this motherboard? | 18:22 |
| charlvn | oh the on-motherboard battery... ok that could be a different issue | 18:22 |
| charlvn | haven't had that in a very long time | 18:22 |
| Kilos | maybe its murphy that stays here | 18:22 |
| charlvn | i had one or two old computers that it happened to but they were still using ide derives | 18:22 |
| Kilos | we gotta ask nuvolari | 18:22 |
| charlvn | *drives | 18:22 |
| Kilos | this has ide too but kept looking for sata as well, but when sata drive plugged in screen didnt even come on | 18:23 |
| charlvn | ah | 18:23 |
| charlvn | interesting, new to me as well | 18:23 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:23 |
| Kilos | murphy's law | 18:24 |
| Kilos | as jy kan sukkel, sal jy | 18:24 |
| charlvn | lol | 18:24 |
| Kilos | maybe i got the link for the mb somewhere still | 18:25 |
| charlvn | brb | 18:25 |
| smile | charlvn: yes! :p | 18:25 |
| smile | I found it on radio.de | 18:25 |
| smile | :) | 18:25 |
| charlvn | smile: there is a list of more here: http://antfarm.co.za/antradio/index.asp | 18:30 |
| charlvn | you can probably find most of them on radio.de | 18:30 |
| charlvn | smile: the afrikaans radio station is this one: http://www.rsg.co.za/ | 18:31 |
| charlvn | i used to listen to this: http://www.jacarandafm.com/ | 18:32 |
| smile | thanks, charlvn | 18:32 |
| smile | have to go, bye :) | 18:32 |
| charlvn | ciao! | 18:33 |
| smile | see ya :) | 18:33 |
| Kilos | anyway now im happy, gotta 80g sata going | 18:35 |
| Kilos | magespawn, AndChat|68096 wb | 18:35 |
| === AndChat|68096 is now known as droidmage | ||
| droidmage | Hi Kilos | 18:36 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:36 |
| charlvn | at work i drink this tea called "entspannung" and "innere ruhe" | 18:36 |
| droidmage | Pc still signed in at the shop | 18:36 |
| charlvn | it's herbal tv - need a lot of it while working on computers | 18:36 |
| Kilos | ah | 18:36 |
| charlvn | *herbal tea | 18:36 |
| charlvn | in the evening i can go back to drinking coffee | 18:37 |
| droidmage | Wow somebody who works on computer who drinks something other than coffee | 18:37 |
| charlvn | magespawn: coffee on | 18:37 |
| charlvn | Maaz: coffee on | 18:37 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 18:37 | |
| charlvn | sorry magespawn | 18:37 |
| Kilos | charlvn, eat lotsa fish | 18:37 |
| droidmage | Lol | 18:37 |
| charlvn | tab fail | 18:37 |
| droidmage | Maaz coffee please | 18:37 |
| Maaz | droidmage: Done | 18:37 |
| Kilos | sea fish is brain food | 18:37 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 18:37 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Righto | 18:37 |
| charlvn | Kilos: i take these omega 3 pills full of fish oil | 18:38 |
| charlvn | it's good for the grey snot between the ears | 18:38 |
| Kilos | lol ya that too | 18:38 |
| charlvn | wb zeref | 18:38 |
| Kilos | hey zeref why you been so quiet | 18:39 |
| Kilos | ? | 18:39 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charlvn, droidmage and Kilos! | 18:41 |
| charlvn | Maaz: thanks | 18:41 |
| Maaz | charlvn: Sure | 18:41 |
| charlvn | Maaz: botsnack | 18:41 |
| Maaz | Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well | 18:41 |
| Kilos | Maaz, thanks man | 18:41 |
| Maaz | Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-) | 18:41 |
| Kilos | hey Squirm | 18:43 |
| Kilos | hi psydroid | 18:43 |
| psydroid | hi Kilos | 18:44 |
| psydroid | hi Squirm | 18:44 |
| psydroid | hi charlvn | 18:44 |
| charlvn | hi psydroid | 18:44 |
| charlvn | long time no speak to | 18:44 |
| psydroid | yeah, I was away for a month | 18:45 |
| charlvn | nice, holiday? | 18:45 |
| psydroid | kind of, I was travelling around Europe | 18:45 |
| charlvn | very cool! | 18:45 |
| charlvn | i don't really do the summer holiday thing, too hot for me | 18:45 |
| psydroid | :) | 18:46 |
| charlvn | even in NL it has been crazy weather for a few weeks | 18:46 |
| charlvn | there is no way i'm going down south when the heat wave is here | 18:46 |
| charlvn | i save my holiday for october or so | 18:46 |
| charlvn | that's a nice month for me | 18:46 |
| psydroid | were you in NL or is that where you actually live? | 18:46 |
| charlvn | how do you mean? | 18:46 |
| psydroid | yeah, I didn't really plan to go | 18:47 |
| psydroid | I mean, you aren't in South Africa? | 18:47 |
| charlvn | eh no? | 18:47 |
| charlvn | are you? :) | 18:47 |
| psydroid | hmm, I never knew you were a fellow Dutchie :) | 18:48 |
| charlvn | lol | 18:48 |
| charlvn | that's hilarious | 18:48 |
| Kilos | no he is in the netherlands | 18:48 |
| psydroid | no, I've never been there either | 18:48 |
| charlvn | no i used to actually live in south africa so i know the country well | 18:48 |
| psydroid | ah, now I understand | 18:49 |
| psydroid | well, I went to Denmark for a few weeks | 18:49 |
| psydroid | it gets pretty cold in the evenings | 18:49 |
| charlvn | ooh! nice | 18:49 |
| charlvn | denmark is cool but they have funny power sockets | 18:49 |
| psydroid | yeah | 18:50 |
| charlvn | i have an europlug on my laptop so i have no problem but if you have an earthed plug it doesn't work right | 18:51 |
| charlvn | you need a plug where the earth sticks into the wall like a british plug | 18:51 |
| psydroid | oh, I didn't bring much with me | 18:52 |
| psydroid | just my phone and my tablet | 18:52 |
| charlvn | no i can't go somewher without a laptop | 18:53 |
| psydroid | so I didn't have too many problems | 18:53 |
| psydroid | yes, I understand | 18:53 |
| charlvn | i'm actually ordering a new laptop | 18:53 |
| charlvn | this one is like 5+ years old and people already make fun of me for it :) | 18:54 |
| charlvn | after some serious consideration ended up ordering one of these: http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/305345/lenovo-essential-b560-(m489nmh).html | 18:54 |
| droidmage | Kilos how goes it with the pc? | 19:10 |
| Kilos | still no joy with booting or even getting to bios droidmage but cpu warming up at least | 19:11 |
| Kilos | i dunno if it can work on a samll screen | 19:11 |
| Kilos | small | 19:11 |
| Kilos | but this one from nuvolari is getting better by the hour | 19:12 |
| droidmage | Well at least something is working. | 19:16 |
| Kilos | yeah i got the sata drive going | 19:16 |
| Kilos | and the nvidia fx5500 | 19:16 |
| Kilos | only found the sata after installing xp then the gigabyte cd | 19:17 |
| droidmage | You had to go to windows? Wow. | 19:19 |
| Kilos | lol ya | 19:26 |
| Kilos | the auto install stuff on the giga cd had a place for enabling sata | 19:26 |
| Kilos | found just by chance while looking for audio drivers | 19:27 |
| Kilos | and to install the giga cd you first need windows | 19:28 |
| Kilos | then windows cant see the sata but ubuntu can | 19:28 |
| Kilos | learn something new everyday | 19:29 |
| Kilos | will still get the ecs mb going as well if it wasnt sold because it was scrap | 19:29 |
| Kilos | but im very happy with nuvolari s pc | 19:32 |
| Kilos | especially with an extra 80g drive working | 19:32 |
| droidmage | You can modify the windows cd to include sata drivers at the start. Or insert another disk with the drivers. | 19:32 |
| Kilos | no man windows is for gaming only and 20g drive is ample | 19:33 |
| Kilos | but as long as i dont remove the battery the mb will remember that it has sata capabilities as well | 19:34 |
| droidmage | Mmm | 19:35 |
| droidmage | Most people now would not have a 20 gig drive. | 19:36 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:36 |
| Kilos | ya | 19:36 |
| droidmage | I ran a laptop from an 8 gig flash for awhile on ubuntu. | 19:38 |
| Kilos | yeah i member. i see this pc can boot from usb's as well | 19:39 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:45 |
| droidmage | Night kilos | 19:45 |
| droidmage | Later all. | 19:46 |
| charlvn | interesting read: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/nonfree-games.en.html | 20:19 |
| charlvn | same goes for all proprietary software though | 20:20 |
| Symmetria | heh] | 20:21 |
| Symmetria | here is something interesting | 20:21 |
| Symmetria | we rolled ipv6 on the UFS network.... | 20:21 |
| Symmetria | now *50%* of the traffic coming in is on ipv6 | 20:21 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| charlvn | Symmetria: that's very interesting indeed | 20:44 |
| charlvn | Symmetria: is that UFS as in http://www.ufs.ac.za/ ? | 20:45 |
| Symmetria | charlvn heh, we were doing over 100mbit on v6 today | 20:45 |
| Symmetria | yeah, webserver isnt v6 enabled yet, but all the client side is | 20:45 |
| Symmetria | well, most of it so far | 20:45 |
| Symmetria | :) | 20:45 |
| Trixar_za | charlvn: Don't read too much into the gnu philosophy. It's sometimes self-contradicting and in other ways just plain dumb. | 20:46 |
| Symmetria | heh | 20:47 |
| Symmetria | charlvn.. here, you can read this | 20:47 |
| Symmetria | https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/afripv6-discuss/2012/001175.html | 20:47 |
| Symmetria | my work for the last week :p | 20:47 |
| Symmetria | its a pretty damn scary story :) | 20:47 |
| charlvn | Symmetria: interesting, thanks! | 20:49 |
| charlvn | Trixar_za: i find a lot of it to be somewhat fanatical but it's still interesting food for thought | 20:50 |
| charlvn | Trixar_za: besides, gnu meant a lot to the open source movement | 20:50 |
| charlvn | ok i'm off, nn all | 20:52 |
| Trixar_za | Actually, Stallman rather you called it the Free Software Movement | 21:00 |
| Trixar_za | He doesn't like the term "Open Source" | 21:00 |
| Trixar_za | :P | 21:00 |
| Trixar_za | Although that proves your point about fanatical | 21:01 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| inetpro | Maaz: tell kilos I'm sorry but between work, school and other events there's very little time left for online chatter in the next few weeks | 21:11 |
| Maaz | inetpro: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 21:11 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
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