[05:17] <Jazzach> asdf
[05:18] <Mish> woah what was that?
[09:35] <jtm_tango> hi people! can I ask for some advice about video editing for dummies?
[10:53] <javi_tango> hi! does someone have a good advice for video editing formats? or about another channel to ask for it? thanks!
[10:59] <ailo> javi_tango: If you're new to video editing, I'd try Openshot
[10:59] <ailo> javi_tango: kdenlive is supposed to be a good pro tool
[11:00] <javi_tango> thank you ailo, should I convert all the clips to the same format before importing them into the editors or just leave the task for them? I have clips from very different cameras :-/
[15:14] <Mish> can I get any ideas for the publishing menu icon?
[15:14] <Mish> I can't seem to come up with a good one
[15:16] <Mish> Also I just noticed that Rakarrack also has a an electric guitar as its icon
[15:16] <Mish> So how about a saxophone for Audio production?
[15:17] <Mish> Also I' planning to do a Film Strip for Video production and a audio visulalisation bars for sound generators
[15:19] <Mish> And how about a camera aperture (with the shutter) for photography?
[15:30] <len-dt> Those are all good ideas. Publishing, maybe the end of a type set?
[15:31] <len-dt> I am thinking about the kind of type that used to set in a type chase for printing. Either by hand or with a Linotype or Ludlow (not sure of spelling)
[15:32] <Mish> can i get a reference image? I can't seem to imagine that
[15:33] <Mish> also I figured saxophone wouldn't look good as it isn't digital enough
[15:51] <ailo> Mish: A rack of books might do well for publishing as well
[15:52] <Mish> Hmm.. that sounds good
[15:52] <Mish> yeah that'd be good
[15:54] <Mish> Any ideas for Audio production? I had made a guitar but later found out that it is already used by a program. I was thinking of a Piano Keyboard but.....
[15:56] <len-dt> I don;t know that it has to be a completely different idea. It seems to me Ralf was working on an icon for that with a tape recorder.
[15:56] <Mish> oh yeah that tape recorder
[15:56] <Mish> fine so he'll do audio production
[15:57] <Mish> Len do you have a reference image for that type set?
[15:58] <len-dt> We hope. He's having so much fun learning image creation he may forget why he started :-)
[15:58] <len-dt> I will have to look.
[15:58] <Mish> lol yeah I can see that in the mailing lists
[15:59] <len-dt> http://www.letterpress.dwolske.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/anatomy-of-printing-type.jpg
[16:00] <len-dt> I don't know if that would be confused with font apps, but once the user reads the text it would match no problem
[16:01] <Mish> So the icon would have the letter or that block in 3d ?
[16:01] <len-dt> It would be pretty hard to recognize it in 2d I think.
[16:02] <Mish> so something pretty much like the image you gave but at a slightly higher viewing angle right?
[16:03] <len-dt> sure. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Gutenberg_press.jpg/150px-Gutenberg_press.jpg shows the first kind of printing press
[16:04] <len-dt> a lot of people who do publishing would recognize that too.
[16:06] <len-dt> https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSdxHrbTI_LzHBBRawgQDlDKvr8vHB6N4cVph-MT72W1hZefx1W is a very common and maybe recognizable kind of press too.
[16:06]  * len-dt learned on one of these in the 70s
[16:07] <Mish> oh but that has way too much detail to be an icon (on the encrypted page)
[16:07] <len-dt> Ya, I guess so.
[16:08] <len-dt> I was trying for as many ideas as I could.
[16:08] <Mish> ok I'll do that and the rack of books to see which one looks good
[16:08] <Mish> yeah thanks for the ideas
[16:12] <len-dt> Mish, you may find it works better (grabs someones attention) to do devel work like this in #ubuntustudio-devel
[16:13] <Mish> ok joined that one
[18:06] <ubuntu-studioJac> Heya
[18:06] <Mish> hey
[18:06] <ubuntu-studioJac> I was wondering if I could get some help
[18:07] <ubuntu-studioJac> I\m having trouble getting ubuntu studio to work nicely alongside Windows 7
[18:07] <Mish> Is it a dual boot?
[18:07] <ubuntu-studioJac> Its supposed to be
[18:07] <ubuntu-studioJac> but it only starts windows
[18:07] <Mish> how did you install?
[18:07] <ubuntu-studioJac> I started by installing windows, then ubuntu studio
[18:08] <Mish> DVD or stick?
[18:08] <ubuntu-studioJac> DVD
[18:10] <Mish> So on boot time it doesn't give any indication that Ubuntu Studio is installed?
[18:12] <ubuntu-studioJac> nope, not at all. There is not boot loader/menu
[18:12] <ubuntu-studioJac> I'm used to grub, so I expected something like that, but nothing
[18:13] <Mish> Dual boot is always tricky because of bootloaders
[18:13] <ubuntu-studioJac> I know, but I've tried it many times before...
[18:13] <ubuntu-studioJac> It usually works when you install Windows first and THEN install linux
[18:14] <Mish> I had to manually reinstall GRUB during my Studio install. Mine is a clean install though. I don't know about this issue. May be the others could help
[18:15] <Mish> You might want to look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[18:27] <ubuntu-studioJac> hmm...I'm looking close at the partition options...should there be a grub partition?
[18:40] <Mish> I can't say Jac