[16:38] knome: we need to do something about docs :\ [16:39] cat /dev/urandom >> xubuntu/docs ? [16:39] maybe outline the issue (docs are hard) and see if someone on list who volunteered wants to come up with some way to handle it? [16:43] hi all, I am a developer from OSGeoLive project http://live.osgeo.org/en/index.html [16:44] we have a problem creating an installable iso based on 12.04 [16:44] we are using all methods available and get the same issue. [16:45] the system installs ok and during the first boot we get an error about not being able to mount /run [16:45] we use this method here: https://gist.github.com/2838416 [16:45] but also remastersys [16:45] both give the same problem [16:46] so we are now wondering if you know something about this issue [16:48] kalxas: welcome :) I'd recommend emailing the xubuntu-devel list, not all the devs are always active here [16:48] I met one of the OSGeoLive folks at the Ubuntu Developer Summit in May, good stuff [16:49] hi pleia2 [16:49] did you meet Brian or Alex? [16:49] kalxas: unfortunately I don't remember :\ [16:49] no problem [16:50] we are ready for RC1 and we have this blocking issue now [16:50] all applications and documents are in place [16:53] thanks pleia2 for the suggestion, I am going to post to xubuntu-devel mailing list [17:37] astraljava: some of the links on the qa tracker for our isos are wrong, how do we go about fixing these? like this: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds/19880/testcases/134/results [17:37] that's the desktop image, but it's linking to alternate [19:29] pleia2, yup. [19:33] I'll write a draft [19:33] thanks [19:34] i can chime in, though i'm enjoying a beer currently ;) [19:34] wait [19:34] wasn't there a draft alread? [19:34] draft email to send to the list? [19:34] http://typewith.me/p/RT4qAanipe [19:34] y [19:34] oh yeah [19:34] my poor brain [19:35] there was a reason to postpone this so that i'll be back [19:35] was it just that i'm available or was there something else too? [19:35] I think that's it [19:35] ok [19:35] we need to rethink the list [19:35] yeah [19:35] do we want to mention the specific roles? [19:35] I don't think so, and I think we need to somehow mention that there isn't a doc lead, so we're sort of feeling our way along here [19:35] those are not so exclusive, but otoh, because we made people choose, i think we should actually tell who should do what [19:40] ok, done changes [19:46] ok, I made some changes too, maybe we sleep on this and send it out tomorrow [19:46] sounds good, though i think we've sleeped on it a lot already ;) [19:47] yeah well :) [19:47] ;) [19:47] yeah, doesn't hurt to sleep one more night [19:47] about the sameish time tomorrow we send it then? [19:48] hmm [19:48] do we have a meeting tomorrow? [19:48] what's the normal schedule [19:48] I probably will not be here [19:48] beta1 isn't around the corner just yet? [19:48] I thought we were supposed to have one last week, so I don't know anymore :) [19:48] no, alpha3 was just a few days ago [19:48] yeah, but that was because of a3 [19:49] i think it's next to meaningless if we announce it today though... [19:49] only devel updates I'm aware of are mr_pouit did some merges/syncs and I got a fix committed to drop a chunk of the unity library dependency tree from our images [19:49] if people turn up, just keep an informal meeting or so [19:49] well, I filed the bug and someone else committed the fix [19:49] i can try to be around about the time we have had meetings [19:50] micahg, :)) [19:50] micahg, nice [19:50] pleia2, does that sound fair? ^ [19:50] it's only ~1MB or so though, not that exciting, but something [19:50] 15UTC it is [19:50] micahg, btw, what's our size? [19:50] same as before alpha3 without the ballooning [19:50] ~735 on desktop [19:51] amd64 [19:51] whatever :) [19:51] I'll wake up at 15:00 UTC [19:51] is there something we can still drop rather easily? [19:51] or should we start taking a lot of time to sort it out? [19:51] python issues still around? [19:51] or was that gimp.. [19:51] meh [19:51] :< [19:51] no idea, I need to dig more [19:51] gimp is keeping gtk2 in [19:51] okay [19:51] err [19:52] webkitgtk1.0 [19:52] that's ~7MB [19:52] mmh [19:53] there are probably more bad recommends somewhere, but we might need to drop something in the end to stay CD sized (I think we could still drop a language or 2 if desired ~10MB each) [19:53] not desired really... [19:53] ok, so, let's see where we end up, it'll probably be another week before I can devote any serious time to this [19:53] *at least another week [19:53] how much was it again that gimp would drop? [19:54] gimp with dependencies? ~50MB at this point I think [19:54] mmh [19:54] not as much as i hoped, but okay ;) [19:55] it was ~40, but with libwebkitgtk1.0, it's almost ~50 [19:55] or so I think, I could be wrong, but it's certainly enough to make all the images under 700MB again [19:56] :) [19:56] How much is gmusicbrowser anyway? [19:56] not too much, it's perl [19:57] we're not dropping it if there's no alternative, and i doubt most alternatives would take at least the same space :) [19:57] (except some cli stuff..) [19:59] yeah, it's tiny [20:01] Just wondered. [20:02] :)