[00:21] <fusk> Anyone know how to edit the sleep function ?
[00:23] <ToZ> fusk, edit the sleep function in what way?
[00:25] <fusk> ToZ, As in change it to use a different sleep script/program or what it's called.
[00:28] <ToZ> fusk, do you mean use uswsusp instead of the kernel suspend method?
[00:30] <fusk> ToZ, yes, exactly.
[00:30] <fusk> i'm just not experienced enough with linux to explain myself correctly.
[00:30] <ToZ> fusk, are you having a problem with suspend? If so, what is the problem?
[00:32] <fusk> It freezes the machine, no matter which destro of ubuntu i use.
[00:33] <ToZ> fusk, what is the make and model of your computer?
[00:33] <fusk> as far as i've been able to find out, it's because the sleep function when you close the screen on laptops is broken.
[00:33] <fusk> It's an LG x110
[00:33] <ToZ> laptop?
[00:33] <fusk> yes
[00:36] <ToZ> fusk, can you post contents of /var/log/pm-suspend.log to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and let me know the link that is generated?
[00:36] <fusk> sure, gimmi a sec.
[00:38] <fusk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1120545/
[00:38] <fusk> there you go ToZ
[00:39] <ToZ> fusk, reviewing...
[00:39] <fusk> an awefull lot of text
[00:40] <ToZ> fusk, according to the log file, suspend and resume is working.
[00:41] <ToZ> fusk, when you return from suspend, you obviously get a black screen, correct?
[00:41] <fusk> yes
[00:41] <fusk> the thing is, when it wakes up, different things happen.
[00:41] <ToZ> fusk, what do you mean?
[00:42] <fusk> Sometimes, it doesn't wake all the way up
[00:42] <fusk> sometimes, it's alive for 30 sec, i can move mouse, click buttons, then it just freezes.
[00:43] <fusk> when i had "enter password to login after sleep" on, sometimes i'd get to enter the pass, sometimes not.
[00:43] <ToZ> fusk, can you run the following command and post the results to ubuntu pastebin again:
[00:43] <ToZ> cat /var/log/syslog* | grep PM:
[00:46] <fusk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1120563/
[00:46] <fusk> there you go ToZ
[00:47] <fusk> The thing is, the machine always wakes up, it's just a matter of how many seconds before it freezes.
[00:48] <ToZ> fusk, are you using wireless connection to internet?
[00:49] <fusk> yes
[00:49] <ToZ> fusk, can you post complete contents of /var/log/syslog so I can review time of freeze?
[00:49] <fusk> i've tryed uswsusp:i386 and it works, even after a whole night in sleep, it wakes up and there are no problems.
[00:49] <fusk> sure thing ToZ
[00:50] <fusk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1120567/
[00:52] <ToZ> fusk, times are too late. Can you post /var/log/syslog.1?
[00:52] <fusk> sec
[00:53] <fusk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1120569/
[00:56] <ToZ> fusk, reviewing log files...
[00:57] <fusk> :)
[01:00] <ToZ> fusk, lets try one thing before we look at making uswsusp the default
[01:00] <fusk> oki
[01:01] <ToZ> fusk, as root, create the file /etc/pm/config.d/unload_modules with the following content:
[01:01] <ToZ> SUSPEND_MODULES="r8169"
[01:02] <ToZ> fusk, then try suspend/resume again.
[01:02] <fusk> When you say, as root, i don't just create a text file, and rename it afterwards ?
[01:02] <ToZ> fusk, sudo leafpad /etc/pm/config.d/unload_modules
[01:02] <ToZ> sorry, gk sudo leafpad /etc/pm/config.d/unload_modules
[01:02] <ToZ> fusk, sec
[01:03] <fusk> yes
[01:03] <ToZ> fusk,  gksudo leafpad /etc/pm/config.d/unload_modules
[01:03] <ToZ> fusk, ^^^ that one
[01:03] <fusk> okay
[01:04] <fusk> it's done and saved
[01:04] <ToZ> fusk, try suspend/resume again
[01:05] <fusk> ok, give me 5 min, usually it doesn't crash if i resume instantly.
[01:05] <ToZ> fusk, ok
[01:11] <fusk> back online ToZ, it reconnected to the network, and keyboard works, usually doesn't.
[01:12] <ToZ> fusk, has it frozen yet?
[01:12] <fusk> not yet.
[01:12] <ToZ> this is good
[01:12] <fusk> "r8169" has something to do with the network card, right ?
[01:13] <ToZ> fusk, yes, it is the driver for you wireless card. The file we created forced an unload and reload of this module through the suspend/resume cycle
[01:14] <fusk> As far as i understand, this is a commen problem for laptop users.
[01:14] <ToZ> yes and no. Some do and some don't. I've never had a suspend issue with any of my laptops.
[01:14] <ToZ> but I know others do.
[01:15] <ToZ> fusk, I assume the laptop is still working?
[01:15] <fusk> how come they don't incorperate a fix like this into the system ? or make uswsusp the default untill the problem has been solved ?
[01:16] <fusk> yeah, it does still work. :)
[01:16] <fusk> i really appreaciate your help, thanks.
[01:16] <ToZ> first, you should test this over the next couple of days to make sure it does work. You can create a bug report on launchpad and bring it to the attention of the developers
[01:17] <ToZ> uswsusp, as I understand it, is deprecated and not being worked on anymore (i could be wrong).
[01:17] <fusk> I think you're right about that, but it still works.
[01:17] <ToZ> fusk, no worries. If the problem returns, you can find me over at ubuntuforums.org.
[01:17] <fusk> :)
[01:18] <fusk> Some other guy who showed me uswsusp told me it was created a long time ago.
[01:19] <ToZ> it is dated, but as you have found out, it still works for some laptops.
[01:20] <fusk> It was the only thing that ruined it for me, everything else worked, tried ubuntu 11.10, 12.04, linux mint & now xubuntu, all of them frose.
[01:23] <fusk> Oh, one last thing ToZ, you'd happen to know of a utility that gives you a bandwidth meter in the top menubar ?
[01:25] <ToZ> fusk, there is the Network Monitor. Is this what you're looking for?
[01:26] <ToZ> fusk, Panel->Add New Items->Network Monitor
[01:28] <fusk> sort of
[01:28] <ToZ> fusk, what do you mean? If you right-click the word Net, you can change the properties to display values
[01:28] <fusk> was thinking more along the lines of menumeter
[01:28] <fusk> oh
[01:28] <fusk> this interface takes some getting use to.
[01:30] <fusk> looks like i have to enter a network device manually
[01:31] <ToZ> fusk, yes. I believe it was wlan0 from your log files
[01:32] <fusk> that works
[01:32] <fusk> If i remove the "net", how do rightclick it then ?
[01:33] <fusk> ah, i see.
[01:33] <fusk> doubleclick object through panel settings.
[01:34] <ToZ> change "Present Data As" to Values to see the throghput
[01:35] <fusk> not bad
[01:36] <fusk> not as compact as menumeter, but it can do.
[01:37] <fusk> can i make i more narrow ?
[01:39] <fusk> seems to take up more space than necessary
[01:39] <ToZ> let me see
[01:43] <fusk> oh, you can add it to the dock as well
[01:43] <ToZ> sorry, can't find anywhere to change width
[01:44] <fusk> it's okay, i'll do for now.
[01:44] <fusk> it'll*
[01:45] <fusk> but the way panels work, you can't just drag an drop icons into dock to make a shortcut, it has to be a panel thingie.
[01:46] <fusk> So no firefox shortcut
[01:47] <ToZ> you can drag and drop from the app fnder application
[01:47] <fusk> didn't know that
[01:48] <ToZ> give it a try. Application Finder is in the Accessories menu
[01:48] <fusk> ah
[01:49] <fusk> that's much better, the default browser icon is annoying,, it doesn't give focus on already opened browser, but opens a new window.
[01:49] <Linux> Hey, I have a quick question
[01:50] <ToZ> !ask
[01:51] <fusk> Oh crap, so does the firefox shortcut, hmm, just gotta remeber not to use it more than once then.
[01:52] <ToZ> fusk, this came up recently as an issue and I wrote a script to change the functionality to what you're looking for. Let me get the link.
[01:52] <fusk> cool
[01:52] <ToZ> Here is the link: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6168
[01:53] <Linux> im connected by wire connection, but the laptop (Dell Latitude D600)  has a built in wireless device but when i try to use the wireless it says "Device Not ready Firmware missing"
[01:53] <ToZ> The logic behind the script is post #25
[01:53] <ToZ> fusk, and the final version of the script is post #35
[01:53] <fusk> okay, thanks.
[01:57] <fusk> So the script just goes into terminal, and that's it ?
[01:57] <fusk> nah, that's gotta be wrong.
[01:58] <ToZ> fusk, save the script in your ~/bin directory (create it if it doesn't exist)
[01:58] <ToZ> fusk, call the file launcher and make it executable
[01:59] <fusk> i see.
[01:59] <ToZ> fusk, then edit the launcher command to be "launcher <command>", or in the case of firefox: launcher firefox
[02:00] <fusk> so one for each instant has to be made, this is not universal.
[02:00] <ToZ> Linux, have a look at: http://tech.rickumali.com/blog/2012/02/04/making-wireless-work-dell-d600-ubuntu
[02:01] <ToZ> fusk, yes, it is a workaround to bring that funtionality in - you can set it up to use only on the apps that you want
[02:01] <fusk> okay
[02:01] <ToZ> fusk, by the way you need to have wmctrl and xdotool installed for it to work
[02:02] <fusk> i'm gonna fiddle with that tomorrow, most important thing was making it not freeze, rest is details.
[02:02] <ToZ> cool
[02:02] <fusk> :)
[02:02] <fusk> Thanks for your help.
[02:03] <ToZ> no worries. glad I could help.
[02:03] <fusk> And good night.
[02:49] <Linux> At this step Step 3.  Copy the downloaded files to your home folder and execute the following commands consecutively in a terminal to extract and install the firmware:  ~$ tar xfvj broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2 ~$ sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o ~$ sudo b43-fwcutter --unsupported -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5/driver/wl_apsta_mimo.o but after running the first command  it says it cant open the file a
[02:50] <Linux> after the tar command, The sudo b43 command gives me the output Cannot open input file wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o
[02:52] <Linux> Oh wait, nevermind I mistyped it i apologize
[03:06] <Linux> I issue the sudo iwconfig wlan0 up and i get an output saying Unknown command "up"
[03:16] <bazhang> it's sudo ifup wlan0
[08:19] <AndreeeCZ> hello folks, when trying to install xubuntu12.04 on a fujitsu laptop, it boots to the loading screen and then ends/hangs on the wallpaper picture.. Anyonecould help?
[08:23] <baizon> AndreeeCZ: this should help
[08:23] <baizon> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-to-set-nomodeset-for-installation
[08:38] <AndreeeCZ> baizon, when i hold shift, i end up with line boot: _
[08:38] <AndreeeCZ> with no pre-set options
[08:38] <AndreeeCZ> baizon, what do i write to boot it from the cd
[08:38] <AndreeeCZ> ?
[08:39] <baizon> open the grub menu when starting
[08:39] <baizon> and add the line there
[08:40] <AndreeeCZ> baizon, how do i open the grub menu? there is no grub on that pc
[08:40] <AndreeeCZ> it infested with windows
[08:40] <AndreeeCZ> it's
[08:40] <AndreeeCZ> baizon, i want to install xubuntu there
[08:41] <baizon> AndreeeCZ: press esc for 2 sec
[08:41] <baizon> hmm so you dont have xubuntu installed?
[08:41] <baizon> the cd wont boot, is that right?
[08:41] <AndreeeCZ> baizon, the cd boots
[08:42] <AndreeeCZ> but fails to start up the language selection screen
[08:42] <AndreeeCZ> it ends up on the xubuntu wallpaper, the cd stops turning
[08:42] <baizon> ah ok
[08:42] <AndreeeCZ> and HDD goes idle
[08:43] <baizon> then run the liveCD, not the install
[08:43] <baizon> then when you boot up just click on the install desktop icon
[08:49] <AndreeeCZ> baizon, whats the difference between Desktop and Live-cd?
[08:50] <AndreeeCZ> what i downloaded was 32-bit Desktop
[10:56] <frojnd> Hi there
[11:17] <knome> hullo
[11:19] <frojnd> I've installed umplayer like this: add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8 && apt-get update && apt-get install umplayer
[11:20] <frojnd> but now when trying to apt-get update I keep getting: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 531EE72F4C9D234C
[11:21] <frojnd> I've tryed to delete rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf and update again but I keep getting this error
[11:21] <frojnd> why is that?
[11:21] <frojnd> have to reboot, brb
[11:23] <Celeron_s370_1GH> Hi all, does xubuntu includes some server functions (web, dns, file server features) and where I can to read about it more?
[11:25] <frojnd> Any answers to my q. while I was gone?
[11:26] <Celeron_s370_1GH> link plz
[11:26] <frojnd> Celeron_s370_1GH: what link?
[11:27] <Celeron_s370_1GH> Is there some official xubuntu documentation about such kind of functions/
[11:27] <frojnd> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/umplayer-available-in-webupd8-ubuntu.html
[11:28] <frojnd> Celeron_s370_1GH: this is the linke where I find out about ppa of umplayer
[11:30] <Celeron_s370_1GH> I relly appriciate your attempt to help but I'm want to know is it possible to run BIND or apache on xubuntu ?
[11:30] <Celeron_s370_1GH> samba may be?
[11:31] <frojnd> oh I think we are talking two different thing here... sorry if I misslead you I'm having problems with gpg keys when updating, I thought you are helping me :P
[11:32] <frojnd> Celeron_s370_1GH: I'm pretty sure apache can be run on any *buntu
[11:35] <Dice> Celeron_s370_1GH: of course you can, but help for those is more likely ubuntu-server stuff
[11:37] <Celeron_s370_1GH> the probmem is Celeron 1.1 GHZ with 512 Mb memory. Is it real to make router based on such kind of hardware to share internet for 5 PC?
[11:40] <Dice> I have about similar setup, but I'm running debian without graphical desktop
[11:41] <Celeron_s370_1GH> Dice, what server functions do you use?
[11:42] <Dice> just a router/gateway
[11:43] <frojnd> Any ideas about my gpg error problem when updating?
[11:55] <bazhang> !gpgerr| frojnd
[11:57] <frojnd> tnx bazhang !
[12:21] <DemonWitch> I just had a kernel panic and booted from a livecd. Where are those kernel panic messages saved?
[12:48] <fusk> Someone who can help me make uswsusp:i386 default ?
[15:16] <blackgatocatnegr> I need an updated replace windows programs with linux programs list, didn't wikipedia or something had a list?
[15:16] <xubuntu717> hi everyone
[15:16] <blackgatocatnegr> Hello
[15:16] <xubuntu717> someone knows a program alternative to compiz
[15:17] <Dice> kwin
[15:17] <xubuntu717> cos my ati x1270 doesn't get along with it
[15:18] <Dice> blackgatonegro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ListOfOpenSourcePrograms
[15:18] <Dice> xubuntu717: something wrong with xubuntu default one?
[15:18] <xubuntu717> i am intrested in it just bebecause of window switcher..usefull and easy
[15:19] <xubuntu717> ..well ati x1270 and linux are not great combination
[15:20] <blackgatonegro> Thunderbird will be discontinued but security updated will still be provided until 2013
[15:21] <blackgatonegro> in other words, someone should update the list
[15:29] <xubuntu717> ..i am new in linux so if you could give me some instruction with kwin how to i would appreciate it
[15:30] <blackgatonegro> xubuntu717, what you need to do?
[15:31] <xubuntu717> [17:16] <xubuntu717> someone knows a program alternative to compiz [17:17] <Dice> kwin
[15:32] <xubuntu717> ..so i am trying to try Kwin
[15:33] <Dice> you won't get window switcher with it if you don't have 3d
[15:34] <xubuntu717> ..mhm thx
[16:32] <uskerine> hi, how can i execute a certain command (specifically I want to erase .cache directory under /home) before the X session of the user actually starts?
[16:37] <fusk> Someone who can help me make uswsusp:i386 default ?
[16:40] <blackgatonegro> uskerine, add it to application autostart
[16:41] <uskerine> is there any way to do it by config files?
[16:44] <blackgatonegro> uskerine, yes but is more conplicated
[16:46] <uskerine> i have to do it for everyuser
[16:46] <uskerine> so i would like to know how to do it by config files
[16:46] <uskerine> it is not single user environment
[16:51] <blackgatonegro> uskerine, Well, sorry, no clue. You could add it so cache gets deleted at shutdown of every user.
[16:52] <uskerine> ok thanks i will try to investigate
[17:02] <Dice> uskerine: you could maybe put it to ~/.profile or ~/.bash_profile
[17:04] <blackgatonegro> uskerine, you have to know what you are doing, ubuntu will not just run any script as boot, unless is one a program adds O_-
[17:08] <blackgatonegro> Gonna reboot now, bye
[17:10] <uskerine> Dice, is .profile or .bash_profile ran before the whole X stuff is loaded?
[17:11] <Dice> I think so
[17:12] <blackgatonegro> back
[17:14] <uskerine> i'll try
[18:32] <Kingsy> anyone in here using the open drivers for an AMD graphics card?
[18:40] <Kingsy> sorry I had to reboot there.. anyone with multiple monitors using the open distro drivers?
[18:43] <oozbooz> nvidia proprietary ...
[18:44] <oozbooz> people say ATI/AMD works too... but I prefer nvidia/s
[18:44] <Kingsy> oozbooz: I have an AMD card..
[18:44] <Kingsy> nvidia drivers wont work for that..
[18:45] <oozbooz> what are you trying to do?
[18:45] <Kingsy> is there a different application to manage the open drivers other than arandr ? that seems to have a bug with 1080i displays
[18:45] <saul> I need some help adjusting my system time. I just moved time zones and reset my time, but it's automatically changing back to the old time
[18:45] <Kingsy> oozbooz: setup multiple displays.. so clone or side by side displays.. choose which side which displays are on.. etc etc
[18:47] <oozbooz> does AMD has its own drivers?
[18:47] <Kingsy> yeah but they are CRAP
[18:47] <Kingsy> so I need to use the open ones
[18:48] <oozbooz> I used nvidia for 3-4 monitors (twinview and xinerama)
[18:48] <oozbooz> more or less working fine
[18:49] <Kingsy> oozbooz: well yeah.. but you have a nvidia card no doubt? heh
[18:50] <oozbooz> yes I do
[18:51] <oozbooz> i have two spare AMDs to pay with next week... so you are saying stay away from AMD pro
[18:51] <oozbooz> pay=play
[18:51] <oozbooz> go with open source
[18:52] <Kingsy> yeah I have done..
[18:52] <Kingsy> but the gui that comes with xubuntu in settings -> display gives yo no control.. so I need a GUI that uses xrandr that I can use to configure the displawys
[18:52] <Kingsy> displays
[18:53] <oozbooz> arandr?
[18:53] <Dice> Kingsy: if arandr doesn't work, it's problem with driver/xorg
[18:56] <Kingsy> Dice: I don't think so   lxrandr  works
[18:56] <Dice> weird, how did arandr fail?
[18:57] <Kingsy> it says ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '1080i'
[18:57] <Kingsy> python error.. not much about it on google..
[18:59] <Kingsy> Dice: does this application even do what I am looking for? basically I want to be able to set 2 monitors as side by side.. and the third as a clone of monitor 1
[18:59] <Dice> I'm not sure, I guess it should
[18:59] <Kingsy> hmm well I cant get it installed anyways
[19:00] <Kingsy> well its installed but doesnt work
[19:00] <Kingsy> LXRandR doesnt give you control to setup clones or anything.. just resolutions
[19:03] <Dice> xrandr isn't very hard actually, just run "xrandr" to see your outputs, then "xrandr --output EXAMPLE --left-of OTHER"
[19:04] <Dice> other possible options --right-of --below --same-as
[19:05] <Dice> --mode 1920x1080 for setting resolution
[19:10] <oozbooz> trying pxe boot/isntall Xubuntu 12.04 it fails "...cant read /etc/fstab" attempting to mount couple partitions ... RHEL boots fine on the same box
[19:11] <Dice> sounds like failed burn
[19:11] <Dice> or was that after installation?
[19:12] <oozbooz> the same image used with CD/DVD install and worked fine...
[19:14] <oozbooz> i used to ISO images and repos: desktop and alternative
[19:14] <oozbooz> to=two
[19:28] <Kingsy> Dice: yeah xrandr actually works great.. :) but how do you get those commands to run on boot? and I don't mean on "login" I mean on boot.. so for example.. when at the login screen the screens are already setup...
[19:32] <Dice> http://askubuntu.com/questions/63681/how-can-i-make-xrandr-customization-permanent second ansver
[19:33] <Kingsy> Dice: the one that talks about lightdm.conf ?
[19:34] <fusk> Is there a grub2 editor with a gui you can recommend ?
[19:35] <Kingsy> so you have to make a .sh file? ummm
[19:35] <Kingsy> heh
[19:36] <Kingsy> Dice: so what would he .sh file contain?
[19:36] <Kingsy> just the two commands?
[19:36] <Dice> Kingsy: #!/bin/sh and commands on following lines
[19:36] <Kingsy> hmmm ok
[19:36] <Kingsy> let me try it :)
[19:37] <Dice> and you need to "chmod +x script.sh" to make it executable
[19:37] <Kingsy> ok
[19:40] <Kingsy> Dice: ok done.. brb let me boot it and see if it works :)
[19:42] <Kingsy> Dice: that worked! however when it booted the screen went really messed up before it corrected itself.. kinda ugly
[19:44] <Dice> better than pretty failure?
[19:45] <Kingsy> hehe yeah for sure
[19:45] <Kingsy> perhaps I am executing the command at the wrong point.. thats why its going all scew wiff for a second
[19:45] <Kingsy> dunno
[20:41] <douglas> obex-data-server crashed with SIGSEGV in dbus_connection_ref@plt()
[20:41] <douglas> anyone know anything about that ^^?
[20:43] <saul> Can someone give me a hand with a time setting problem in xubuntu?
[20:44] <douglas> you have to restart for it to take effect. or logout
[20:44] <douglas> *after you change it
[20:46] <saul> Restarting hasn't fixed it. I recently moved from one time zone to another. It keeps changing back to the old time.
[20:47] <saul> There must be some setting I'm missing. I went to the settings part in calendar and changed to the new time zone, but that didn't help.
[20:47] <douglas> Did you change it manually? Did you install anything that modifies your time automatically?
[20:50] <saul> I changed the time via the command line, as I couldn't find any GUI tool to change the time. I don't think I've installed anything that would mess with the time settings
[20:52] <saul> But in spite of changing the time zone in the calendar GUI and changing the time via the command line, the time changes itself back to the previous time zone time
[20:53] <genii-around> saul: Is the time in the BIOS set correctly?
[20:55] <saul> genii-around: I haven't altered the bios since I moved time zones. It seems like there must be some way to change the time without getting into the bios
[20:57] <genii-around> saul: It will always use whatever the computer's time is set to as a beginning reference, unless you use for instance ntpd
[20:58] <genii-around> !info ntpdate
[21:00] <recon_lap> saul: have a look at http://mylinuxnotebook.blogspot.ie/2008/07/changing-ubuntu-time-zone.html , you just got to love google
[21:02] <David-A> saul: do you dual boot with windows? by default windows and unix/linux disagree how to interpret the hardware clock (when setting system clock at boot), if it is local time or utc.
[21:04] <saul> should I install David-A, I do dual boot with windows, and have for many years. I've changed time zones several times, but this is the first time while running xubuntu
[21:05] <saul> recon_lap: Thanks, that seems to have fixed it. I didn't find that with google b/c I was searching for xubuntu. I'm pretty sure I had changed time zones with older ubuntu installs without using a command line tool
[21:06] <saul> Thanks for the help, everyone!
[21:10] <saul> David-A: There is a weird problem regarding this time zone issue. In the xubuntu settings--> Calendar, I changed the time zone, but it didn't have any effect. When I just changed it with reconfigure tzdata, it seems to have worked
[21:10] <saul> Maybe there's a problem with the time zone gui tool?
[21:11] <recon_lap> saul: maybe it's security
[21:11] <uskerine> hi
[21:11] <uskerine> how can i look which pacakges are available that contains a given name?
[21:11] <recon_lap> saul: but it could be a bug :)
[21:12] <uskerine> for example, i would like to know which packages i could install with the word "asterisk" on it
[21:12] <saul> Shouldn't the user be able to change the time zone easily? It seems like it's a fairly common thing
[21:12] <recon_lap> saul: for the user, not for the system
[21:13] <David-A> saul: I don't know what the problem may be. Do you syncronize with time server on the internet?
[21:14] <saul> There must be some synchronization going on, because when I changed the time using the command line, it would change back on its own after a minute or two
[21:16] <saul> I couldn't find any gui setting that said anything about sychronizing, though
[21:17] <David-A> saul: the user can set his personal time zone in ~/.profile (env var TZ)
[21:17] <genii-around> saul: Does  /etc/ntp.conf exist on your system?
[21:19] <David-A> saul: I have xubuntu 10.04, Settings>DateAndTime has setting for time zone and sync with internet time server.
[21:22] <David-A> saul: there are a lot of different forces going on. if windows and ubuntu read/write the hwclock differently, if windows and/or ubuntu syncronize with time server, things can change from time to time and from boot to boot
[21:26] <saul> genii-around: I don't have /etc/ntp.conf
[21:27] <genii-around> Hm
[21:27] <xubuntu768> hello
[21:28] <douglas> obex-data-server crashed with SIGSEGV in dbus_connection_ref@plt()
[21:28] <douglas> anyone know anything about that ^^?
[21:28] <xubuntu768> i was wondering, since i cannot use compiz because of my graphics, is there window static switcher like in compiz
[21:28] <xubuntu768> ..standalone like
[21:30] <elsuco> What functionality else do you want except Alt-Tab?
[21:30] <David-A> xubuntu768: you mean desktop switcher/workspace switcher? with fancy effects?
[21:31] <saul> David-A: I've got xubuntu 12.04, and I don't have settings>DateAndTime, it seems. I only have Settings>Calendar. Did I somehow screw that up? Or is that the case for everyone in 12.04?
[21:31] <xubuntu768> well i doesnt need to have fancy effects just to switch between windows using mouse
[21:32] <xubuntu768> ..i find alt+tab complicated
[21:32] <xubuntu768> ..cos i cant preview windows and i need that
[21:33] <David-A> xubuntu768: windows, not workspaces? what about just click the window with the mouse? (do you mean something else?)
[21:34] <xubuntu768> switch between windows not the workspace
[21:34] <elsuco> xubuntu768, i don't know of a window preview feature.....
[21:34] <elsuco> xubuntu768, don't think, that this is possible
[21:35] <xubuntu768> ..well the one like static swither in compiz
[21:35] <xubuntu768> but only that feature without compiz
[21:35] <xubuntu768> ...ok thanx
[21:37] <fusk> Anyone can help me make uswsusp default ?
[21:38] <David-A> saul: sorry, it is System>DateAndTime in both 10.04 & 12.04, "Configuration:" for sync with internet in 12.04.
[21:41] <David-A> saul: try make your time zone work in both win and ubuntu and stay consistent over re-boots. do it WITHOUT sync with internet time server in BOTH. (when that works you can enable sync if you want)
[21:42] <David-A> saul: it will require you tell windows to interpret hw clock as utc, or tell ubuntu to interpret hw clock as local time, so both use the hw clock the same way.
[21:45] <David-A> saul: (or you can live in the UK in the winter, all the time, then local and utc confusion does not matter)
[21:48] <elsuco> fusk, Isn't your request covered in http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/uswsusp
[21:48] <elsuco> oh, thats german.. i will look for the english version
[21:52] <elsuco> fusk, oh well.... Apparently there is no english version.... I'll try to translate
[21:53] <saul> David-A: Haha, thanks David-A, I appreciate the help.
[21:53] <elsuco> sudo mv /usr/sbin/pm-suspend /usr/sbin/pm-suspend.bak  --> do a backup of your current configuration
[21:54] <elsuco> sudo mv /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate.bak --> same for the hibernate version
[21:55] <elsuco> sudo ln -s /usr/sbin/s2ram /usr/sbin/pm-suspend --> link from pm-suspend to s2ram, which will be invoked, when you want to go to suspend-to-ram
[21:56] <elsuco> sudo ln -s /usr/sbin/s2disk /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate --> link from pm-hibernate to s2disk, which will be invoked, when you want to go to suspend-to-disk
[21:56] <elsuco> And this should do the trick..
[21:57] <fusk> So that means, it'll change both sleep and hibernate ?
[21:57] <fusk> or suspend
[21:58] <elsuco> jep.... but of course you can also just change the one you want..
[21:59] <fusk> noo, it's fine, just making sure.
[21:59] <fusk> pretty cool, will try this, guess i should reboot too afterwards.
[22:00] <elsuco> you won't have to reboot... once those command are executed you are immediatly ready to try it out... :-)
[22:02] <fusk> awesome, thanks a lot for your help
[22:05] <elsuco> no problem...
[22:07] <fusk> oh wait, elsuco. yesterday a guy called toz tried to help me with this, and he wanted to try something before making uswsusp default. we added a line to a file somewhere, suspend "r,something"
[22:07] <fusk> should that be removed ?
[22:09] <elsuco> I think, with the confguration i postet, you should be good to go.... do you by any chance remember the file you edited yesterday?
[22:10] <fusk> we didn't edit it, i think we created it, adding [suspend] "rxxxx"
[22:10] <fusk> where rxxxx is my wireless network card
[22:12] <elsuco> oh ok.... so that is probably about the way uswsusp handles your wireless card, when it goes to sleep.... You should keep that file with its configuration...
[22:13] <fusk> but it didn't work, the machine still frose afterwards. but if it dosn't matter for uswsusp. Then i guess i'm good to go.
[22:14] <fusk> now i know. SUSPEND_MODULES="r8169" located in /etc/pm/config.d/unload_modules
[22:15] <elsuco> Ohhh.... The commands above assumed, that uswsusp is working... They are just making sure, that your computer will use uswsusp for hibernate....  If uswsusp is not working, these commands won't help you to get it to work..
[22:16] <fusk> okay
[22:16] <fusk> we created it yesterday to see if we could fix the problem before installing uswsusp.
[22:16] <fusk> just want to make sure it does not screw up uswsusp
[22:18] <elsuco> i'm starting to get behind what you did there.. i think uswsusp won't check the file... so you can leave it there or delete it, however you want.
[22:19] <fusk> :) cool
[22:19] <uskerine> which config file should i change for changing DNS servers?
[22:19] <uskerine> it is no longer /etc/resolv.conf?
[22:19] <fusk> thanks a lot elsuco, much appreaciated.
[22:20] <elsuco> glad i could help... :-)
[22:21] <fusk> now comes the test
[22:21] <fusk> :)
[22:21] <elsuco> wish you luck...
[22:41] <elsuco> fusk, did it work?
[22:43] <fusk> my first try failed. after a reboot i've now had two succesfull sleep/wake tries.
[22:44] <elsuco> interesting, that a reboot was necessary... but that sounds like it is working... Nice....
[22:47] <fusk> yeah, so far so good, just gotta test it over a few days to see if it keeps working, it's the only thing stopping me from going all in on this linux thingie.
[22:49] <elsuco> awesome.... i hope it works out.... Whatever problem you may find, just ask... :-)
[23:25] <fusk> test
[23:25] <genii-around> !test | fusk
[23:27] <merquis00> #test
[23:39] <fusk> How do you install new fonts ?
[23:41] <David-A> fusk: search for "ttf" in Synaptic
[23:43] <fusk> David-A, did that, get a few installed results, but no idea what i'm looking at.
[23:45] <David-A> I find 2080 font packages of which 16 is installed. Me neither knows what the ones not installed looks like.
[23:45] <David-A> *are
[23:46] <fusk> Ohh
[23:47] <fusk> David-A, i already have a package i want to use. Got ms calibri, and that's the one i want to install.
[23:48] <David-A> fusk: a .deb package? double click it!
[23:48] <fusk> zip
[23:48] <fusk> contains ttf files
[23:49] <fusk> normally i just doubleclick ttf, but doesn't work here.
[23:52] <David-A> fusk: I have not installed fonts that way, so I dont know. The hard core way may be to find what folders the system looks for fonts in, and copy the .ttf there. Possibly a lib folder in the system or a dot-folder in your home if it's only for you.
[23:52] <fusk> auch
[23:54] <David-A> The first few hits when google ''where store ttf font ubuntu'' seems to answer that question, judged by their title, haven't looked into them.
[23:54] <fusk> Quite sure there is an easy way, this worked fine in other ubuntu distros.
[23:54] <fusk> ok, thanks, will have a look.
[23:59] <fusk> uhm, where exactly is \home ? i'm not allowed to create folders in the place i'm at.