[02:28] <BluesKaj> KDE 4.9 seems to holding up nicely on Kubuntu 12.10
[02:35] <Daskreech> Yep
[02:44] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Here too. Although I did get some odd dmesg : audit_printk_skb: 45 callbacks suppressed   and then stuff about cupsd apparmor
[02:44] <ScottK> genii-around: Please capture the details and file a bug.
[02:45] <genii-around> ScottK: OK. Any way to turn up the dmesg verbosity?
[02:45] <ScottK> No, but probably whatever you get is sufficient.
[02:46] <ScottK> If you can capture the info in a bug, I can get someone who understands apparmor stuff to look at it.
[02:49] <genii-around> ScottK: What package should I file against then, apparmor ?
[02:50] <ScottK> That's as good a place as any.
[02:50] <genii-around> OK
[02:51] <BluesKaj> genii-around:  ScottK , I didn't run dmesg , but I have tested most apps and they're performing fine
[02:52] <ScottK> Great.
[03:06] <genii-around> bug 1031583
[08:15] <jussi> o/
[08:15] <jussi> Morning all
[08:28] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: in some of the packages, the maintainer is George, how do you handle that?
[08:28] <shadeslayer> Code duplication .. everywhere
[08:40] <Riddell> who's all tested 4.9.0?
[08:42]  * shadeslayer is downloading it right now
[08:50] <shadeslayer> also, don't wait for me, It's going to take a while to download stuff
[08:58] <yofel> morning
[08:58] <yofel> Riddell: upgrade went fine and it seems to work fine here
[09:02] <Riddell> yofel: on 12.10?
[09:33] <shadeslayer> upgrade will take 5 hours :P
[09:33] <shadeslayer> "Need to get 1,212 MB/1,353 MB of archives."
[09:35] <Riddell> groovy 12.04 works as well from my ec2 testing
[09:35] <Riddell> time to upload I think
[09:38] <yofel> Riddell: 12.04 packages on 12.10 - I realized too late that the precise packages had a higher version as I have both releases in my sources here
[09:38] <yofel> and ~precise1~ppa1 >> ~ppa1
[09:39] <shadeslayer> heh
[09:40] <Riddell> the alphabet getting one over us there
[09:40]  * yofel tries to get himself used to always use ~ppa1~RELEASE or any upload he does
[09:40] <yofel> s/or/for/
[09:40] <kubotu> yofel meant: "tries to get himself used to always use ~ppa1~RELEASE for any upload he does"
[10:39]  * Riddell copies 4.9 to kubuntu-ppa/backports
[10:51] <apachelogger> yofel_, Riddell: FWIW I do believe it is sensible to add the series always
[10:51] <apachelogger> seems more consistent anyway
[11:20] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:42] <Riddell> apachelogger: add to what?
[11:44] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: fix it somehow?
[11:46] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: will do
[11:46] <Quintasan> Maintainer business isn't really important in PPA but necessary for archive
[11:47] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/526502 here is the final scrip
[11:47] <Quintasan> t
[11:48] <shadeslayer> will fix later on
[11:48] <shadeslayer> working on something else atm
[11:49] <Quintasan> Sure, I think I uploaded everthing wrt to ktp
[11:49] <Quintasan> if not the please do so
[11:54] <yofel> Riddell: to the version, it would be consistent with what the lauchpad recipes do too
[12:03] <apachelogger> Riddell: the version
[12:03] <Riddell> apachelogger: so ~quantal in PPA?
[12:03] <apachelogger> ~quantal1~ppa1 ~precise1~ppa1
[12:03] <Riddell> seems a sensible idea
[12:03] <apachelogger> way more explicit
[13:18] <stefan`> hi guys - just updated to the new 4.9 release
[13:18] <stefan`> it seems the oxygen-style does not work anymore, though. widgets use CDE after startup and the style is not in the list of available styles. the package kde-style-oxygen is installed, though
[13:19] <stefan`> hope i'm not the 100th to report - i'm really sorry in that case
[13:20] <ScottK> Are you still sorry if it's 99?
[13:20] <ScottK> I don't recall hearing about it.  Does it happen with a new user?
[13:20] <stefan`> ScottK: I can try that - one sec
[13:25] <stefan`> ScottK: with a new user the style is there again
[13:26] <ScottK> So that means some existing configuration is now getting updated.
[13:26] <stefan`> ScottK: probably, i should remove all oxygen-related configs then
[13:26] <ScottK> I would move them aside, restart your session and then diff them with the autogenerated one to see if anything interesting shows up.
[13:31] <stefan`> weird... i backed up ".kde/share/config/oxygenrc", restarted the session, oxygen is still not available as a style but a new oxygenrc was created with an empty "diff" to my backup
[13:31] <Riddell> stefan`: this is in 12.10 or 12.04?
[13:32] <ScottK> So that's not the right file.
[13:32] <stefan`> 12.04
[13:32] <ScottK> \o_ - Someone who actually understands this stuff ...
[13:32] <stefan`> but a find reveals no other *oxygen* or *style* file in my home
[13:33] <Riddell> stefan`: installed from where?
[13:35] <stefan`> Riddell: 4:4.9.0-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa2
[13:35] <stefan`> Riddell: Maintainer is "Kubuntu Developers"
[13:36] <Riddell> stefan`: from which PPA?
[13:36] <stefan`> Riddell: i'm embarrassed to ask ... but how do i find that out?
[13:37] <Riddell> stefan`: what did you add to sources.list ?
[13:38] <Riddell> stefan`: apt-cache policy ark  should say
[13:38] <stefan`> Riddell: uh - i found a problem (i think)
[13:38] <stefan`> kubuntu-ppa backports
[13:39] <agateau> the offending file could be in ~/.config (Trolltech.conf or a file in Trolltech/ for example)
[13:39] <stefan`> Riddell: if i do "dpkg -L kde-style-oxygen" it lists me liboxygenstyle.so.4.8.0
[13:40] <stefan`> Riddell: but apt-cache policy kde-style-oxygen says 4.9.0 is installed
[13:40] <stefan`> agateau: trying that right now
[13:41] <stefan`> wohoo: Trolltech.conf was the problem
[13:41] <stefan`> of course stupid me has no backup :(
[13:41] <stefan`> so i can't do a diff
[13:54] <debfx> tsdgeos: is set(GENERIC_LIB_VERSION "4.8.0") in kdelibs 4.9.0 on purpose?
[13:55] <tsdgeos> don't think so
[13:55] <tsdgeos> is it?
[13:55] <debfx> I would be surprised if it were on purpose
[13:57] <debfx> that is why oxygenstyle is installed as liboxygenstyle.so.4.8.0 in kde-workspace 4.9.0
[13:57] <tsdgeos> f**k
[14:15] <BluesKaj> BBL
[14:21] <ScottK> tsdgeos: My last mail to -release was meant to  be a subtle reminder that kdelibs for 4.8.5 still needs respinning.
[14:21] <tsdgeos> ScottK: that's dirk's problem
[14:21] <tsdgeos> i don't play there
[14:21] <ScottK> OK.
[14:27] <tsdgeos> ScottK: i did mybest already that was getting vhanda to fix it
[14:29] <genii-around> Currently only plasma failsafe works for me . Also opening firefox -> instant death today. rekonq works though. Pastebin of .xsession-errors for a new user:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1123454/ 
[14:31] <jsubl2> t
[14:32] <ScottK> tsdgeos: I appreciate that.  It was a big help.
[14:33] <Riddell> genii-around: I'd need to know more about your setup to comment
[14:38] <genii-around> Riddell: What would be useful, I can pastebin anything you require
[14:38] <Riddell> genii-around: what version you're running, what you're installed recently, what plasma failsafe means, what happens for a new user..
[14:41] <genii-around> new user -> boots out back to kdm with the .xsession-errors file already pastebinned. I will gather more extensive info on the other items
[14:41] <stefan`> Riddell: probably plasma-failsafe means that the air-theme is not translucent anymore (it is grey here)
[15:00] <shadeslayer> FYI Registrations for UDS are now open ;)
[15:03] <tsdgeos> Copenhaguen
[15:15] <genii-around> URL obfuscated since it is a local box here: http://goo.gl/e2exu   ... contains more info about this box and it's setup
[15:16] <genii-around> Any other info can be provided if required
[15:17] <shadeslayer> tsdgeos: yeah
[15:18] <tsdgeos> not bad
[15:18] <tsdgeos> hopefully i can be back at home for 31 evening/night
[16:12] <Riddell> hum, how many packages need rebuilt for the reversioned kdelibs
[16:12] <Riddell> /usr/lib/*4.8.0*  lots
[16:16] <kio_http> Hi, if you guys package KDE 4.9 final in the next week or two and I install those packages what will it do to a kde 4.9 that I installed from source. overwrite it witht he Kubuntuppa version?
[16:16] <debfx> not just rebuilds because "4.8.0" is hardcoded in some places
[16:18] <Riddell> kio_http: depends on where you installed it
[16:18] <shadeslayer> oh boy
[16:22] <yofel> fun release...
[18:39] <debfx> oxygen-cursor-theme-extra: now with 21 more colors
[18:40] <shadeslayer> hahah
[19:17] <shadeslayer> that was fun, atd hangs up on upgrade
[19:39] <genii-around> Removed all PPA except ninjas, back up into regular plasma again with my original .kde contents
[20:42] <shadeslayer> server upgrades are horrible horrible shit
[20:43] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: debian needs a safe upgrade that can roll back to the last state
[20:44] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: I've been trying to upgrade this server from 10.04 to 12.04 and it keeps getting stuck at unpacking/installing atd
[20:44] <Daskreech> Upgrade atd first?
[20:45] <shadeslayer> and I think I might have broken alot of other stuff in the process
[20:45] <shadeslayer> not sure
[20:45] <soee> hi, is someone woking on 4.9 backport for 12.04 ?
[20:45] <shadeslayer> soee: yeah, we have packages
[20:45] <shadeslayer> sekrit packages
[20:45] <soee> :)
[20:48] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1031856] I tried to install Skype, and now I can't delete it or install others packages. @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1031856 (by Norbert Budzyński)
[20:51] <shadeslayer> interesting
[20:52] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: apt-get install at worked
[20:52] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: \o/
[20:53] <shadeslayer> invoke-rc.d: initscript bind9, action "start" failed.
[20:53] <shadeslayer> weird
[20:55] <yofel> shadeslayer: changed your server to ubuntu or is that another one?
[20:55] <shadeslayer> it's another one
[20:55] <yofel> try to start it manually and see what happens
[20:55] <shadeslayer> /etc/init.d/bind9 restart
[20:55] <shadeslayer>  * Stopping domain name service... bind9                                                                                                WARNING: key file (/etc/bind/rndc.key) exists, but using default configuration file (/etc/bind/rndc.conf)
[20:55] <shadeslayer> rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused
[20:56] <shadeslayer> that's what happens ;)
[20:56] <yofel> o.O
[20:56] <yofel> throw it out if you don't need it
[20:56] <shadeslayer> ah well
[20:57] <yofel> shadeslayer: you did run that as root? (just asking the obvious)
[20:57] <shadeslayer> yeah
[20:57] <shadeslayer> there's only one user on this server atm
[20:57] <shadeslayer> root
[20:57] <shadeslayer> :P
[20:57] <yofel> k
[20:57] <shadeslayer> insanely powerful server this is
[20:58] <shadeslayer> quadcore 2.80 GHz , 1 TB of HDD, 8 GB of RAM
[20:58] <yofel> :O
[20:59] <shadeslayer> yeah
[21:01] <shadeslayer> yofel: weird hosting provider though
[21:14] <shadeslayer> whew
[21:14] <shadeslayer> I *think* it's all good now
[21:17] <shadeslayer> for some definition of good
[21:19] <shadeslayer> anyone have experience setting up buildd's ?
[21:46] <Riddell> shadeslayer: no but is there a juju charm for that?
[22:32] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I just upgraded a server yesterday with no problem.  How are you doing it?