[00:00] <artao> i have NO IDEA how to even begin trubl-shooting this anymore
[00:01] <artao> and i did add all that to the bug report =]
[00:01] <artao> but i'm done with it now. it gave me a headache
[00:05] <fgonzalez> hello people!
[01:02] <Daskreech> artao: you can ask in #ubuntu-server they do kernel work
[01:03] <artao> hmm. not today
[01:03] <Daskreech> artao: No when you have energy. It helps to walk away from a problem at times
[01:04] <Daskreech> Ive been trying to track down a akonadi/nepomuk bug for two weeks now
[01:11] <artao> =]
[01:28] <starwatcher> hi all, have a problem. going from login screen to desktop is taking way to long in loading settings for that desktop. login out take long too. I created a new user account and the problem goes away. what do you thing I need to do?
[01:50] <Daskreech> starwatcher: umm check your settings. Do you have a session starting up with previous applications?
[01:52] <starwatcher> not that I know of. I have deleted .kde to see if that worked but that just messed everything up so put it back together.
[01:53] <starwatcher> I have set it to start a clean desktop but have not tried it yet.
[01:54] <starwatcher> Thought at first might be having hd problems but when I installed a new user account and it did not happen there knew everything was all right with the hd.
[01:55] <starwatcher> took off all plasma apps just to make sure they where not causing a problem, but it's the same.
[01:56] <starwatcher> be right back want to try a clean slate.
[02:07] <Daskreech> you can move .kde instead of deleting it
[02:07] <Daskreech> saves your settings if nothing else
[02:12] <Daskreech> I'd guess you have a service running? Installed anything recently?
[02:18] <starwatcher> Daskreech have tried saving setting but that has not helped either. very weird.
[02:20] <Daskreech> I'd guess you have a service running? Installed anything recently?
[02:21] <starwatcher> I don't know what it trying to load during that time but there is hd activity to the point that you can't do anything else with the keyboard.. I have just installed the updates over the last few days.
[02:22] <Daskreech> starwatcher: you tried logging in with a new session?
[02:23] <starwatcher> yes same results. only when I login to a new account does the problems disappear.
[02:24]  * genii-around suspects Akonadi
[02:25] <starwatcher> it says Akonadi has been stopped, should I start it?
[02:26] <Daskreech> I would guess nepomuk personally
[02:26] <Daskreech> In any case I'd login to a tty and run htop then login to the GUI and flip back to the tty and monitor
[02:28] <starwatcher> step by step please
[02:30] <Daskreech> starwatcher: You know how to login to a tty?
[02:30] <starwatcher> using ctrl f1?
[02:32] <starwatcher> or droping to root at grup?
[02:35] <Daskreech> starwatcher: right alt+ctrl+F1
[02:35] <Daskreech> Login there and sudo apt-get install htop
[02:35] <Daskreech> then run htop
[02:35] <Daskreech>  you'll get a nice pretty easy to follow process manager
[02:36] <Daskreech> alt+ctrl+F7 and login then press alt=ctrl+F1 again and watch what it does
[02:36] <starwatcher> ok just installed htop
[02:36] <Daskreech> what is taking up CPU time or MEM
[02:37] <starwatcher> brb
[02:42] <starwatcher> doesn't seem like anything is taking up much mem or cpu time. just the normal stuff that consumes cpu of about 2 or 3 %
[02:46] <Daskreech> Hmm
[02:46] <Daskreech> You say the hdd spins up a lot when it logs in?
[02:48] <starwatcher> only when it goes from the last set up icon to desktop and then when logging out the log out counter does not start for about 40 sec and the hd led is lit
[02:50] <starwatcher> i turned bluedevil off in services don't have bluetooth on this laptop. just might be it have to re boot to see.
[02:51] <starwatcher> I'll be back shortly
[03:06] <Daskreech> any help?
[03:07] <Daskreech> ehas
[03:07] <Daskreech> starwatcher: what errors are you seeing?
[03:08] <starwatcher> it is so quick, I just see media error at the top of htop
[03:09] <starwatcher> and it happens when it is going from login setup to desktop and then some.
[03:09] <Daskreech> Hmm check logs perhaps?
[03:22] <starwatcher> ok htop says Exception Emask 0x409 (media error) any ideas?
[03:25] <Daskreech> irk
[03:26] <Daskreech> starwatcher: do you have smartmon installed?
[03:27] <starwatcher> yes and it shows one bad sector.
[03:27] <Daskreech> hmm that shouldn't be too bad
[03:27] <Daskreech> what does the long test results say?
[03:28] <starwatcher> the same
[03:28] <Daskreech> ok so let's go on the basis that the drive is ok
[03:29] <Daskreech> Is it a laptop?
[03:29] <starwatcher> i use gnome disk utility for this and yes it is a laptop
[03:30] <Daskreech> Ok so lets go on the basis that the cable isn't loose
[03:33] <starwatcher> smart data tells me there is just one bad sector and it is pending remapping
[03:33] <Daskreech> starwatcher: run a fsck ?
[03:33] <starwatcher> yes I have run it but I think it does not go into the /home right?
[03:34] <starwatcher> it runs and then goes on to boot the system.
[03:36] <starwatcher> ok runing self-test in extended mode withdisk utility gives me a faild (read)
[03:44] <Daskreech> well is /home on a different partition?
[03:46] <starwatcher> no it's on the same partition
[03:47] <Daskreech> Oh thenit should enter it unless you encrpypted it
[03:47] <Daskreech>  actually I think even then
[03:50] <starwatcher> sorry for taking so much of your time. 8)
[03:53] <Daskreech> That's fine
[03:53] <Daskreech> You've been doing a lot of work yuorself
[06:17] <rottingdead> Hello.
[06:18] <rottingdead> When you use apt-get install $PACKAGE or Synaptic/Muon, where does it store the downloaded packages?
[06:19] <rottingdead> Hmm, ran this command sudo apt-get source kdevelop got this error Unpack command 'dpkg-source -x kdevelop_4.3.1-0ubuntu1.dsc' failed.
[06:26] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:30] <decci> I am looking for a tool for VPS XenServer bandwidth and port speed monitoring using RRD tool. I used cacto or nagios but they seems to be a sophisticated for my microVPS
[08:34] <DavidChen> can any body help me? I want to change Emacs Autocoplete from Alt+Tab to C^Tab,but I don't know how to
[11:20] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:21] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Hi lordievader
[11:54] <Unmanned> Hi #kubuntu!
[11:54] <susundberg> _o/
[11:54] <BluesKaj> hi Unmanned
[11:55] <Unmanned> is kubuntu the exact same as ubuntu but with KDE instead of Gnome?
[11:55] <Unmanned> (btw, I'm the guy who yesterday was called "harlem")
[11:57] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu
[11:57] <lordievader> Unmanned: The underlaying system is indeed more or less the same.
[12:00] <Unmanned> uhm
[12:00] <Unmanned> lordievader, what are the main different features? I was hoping the only one was the GUI
[12:02] <lordievader> Unmanned: The KDE software suite goes a bit further than just a GUI. It has a lot of programs under it's wings.
[12:03] <Unmanned> hmm
[12:03] <Unmanned> that's kind of a problem for me
[12:03] <lordievader> Unmanned: How so?
[12:04] <Unmanned> lordievader, I still do not know EXACTLY what software I have installed! I was very happy with the "sudo apt-get install" command and I got very useful programs with that
[12:04] <Unmanned> but I don't know where to find a list of the installed programs
[12:05] <Unmanned> and I never looked for a folder because I'm still not familiar with Linux's directories
[12:05] <lordievader> Unmanned: I usually use a gui for that, synaptic. It got filters for those kind of things.
[12:05] <Unmanned> (but I'm very willing to learn)
[12:05] <Unmanned> oooohhh
[12:05] <Unmanned> yeah
[12:06] <lordievader> Unmanned: I guess you could also use apt-cache for it, but I have to say I do not know how.
[12:07] <Unmanned> alright lordievader
[12:08] <Unmanned> oh s**t, I've just tried my usual Ubuntu shortcuts and it turns out they're disabled in the plasma environment
[12:08] <Unmanned> wth?
[12:08] <Unmanned> Ctrl+Alt+T for terminal, Ctrl+Alt+Right/Left for changing workspace, etc..
[12:08] <Unmanned> they don't work
[12:09] <mosc> Hi does anybody have the same issue under kubuntu 12.10 ?
[12:09] <mosc> ACPI Error: [_T_0] Namespace lookup failure, AE_ALREADY_EXISTS (20110623/dswload2-316)
[12:09] <mosc> ACPI Exception: AE_ALREADY_EXISTS, During name lookup/catalog (20110623/psloop-231)
[12:09] <mosc> ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\FREQ] (Node ffff88022185f348), AE_ALREADY_EXISTS (20110623/psparse-536)
[12:09] <mosc> ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_TZ_.THM0._TMP] (Node ffff88022185f2a8), AE_ALREADY_EXISTS (20110623/psparse-536)
[12:09] <lordievader> Unmanned: KDE got it's own shortcuts, it won't listen to gnome/unity shortcuts.
[12:09] <FloodBotK1> mosc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:10] <mosc> Hi does anybody have the same issue under kubuntu 12.10 ?
[12:10] <Unmanned> ok lordievader
[12:11] <mosc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1123215/
[12:12] <lordievader> mosc: Support for 12.10 is in the channel #ubuntu+1
[12:12] <mosc> sorry 12.04 :)
[12:13] <mosc> my finger ripped because I am installing it on another dev server !
[12:25] <basoke> okay, so when I do stuff in console, and then nothing happens, is there a way to send a stop/kill signal without opening the task manager?
[12:29] <Sentynel> basoke: ctrl+c is keyboard interrupt
[12:29] <Sentynel> if that doesn't work you can open another console tab and kill
[12:30] <basoke> sentynel: Thanks, that saves a ton of time!!
[12:35] <mosc>  does anybody have the same issue under kubuntu 12.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1123215/ ?
[12:39] <Guest63526> hi, im trying to install aircrack but having problems
[12:40] <lordievader> Guest63526: What is your problem?
[12:43] <Guest63526> i get this error http://pastebin.com/qcngnYRG
[12:43] <Guest63526> when i run make
[12:45] <lordievader> Guest63526: Why not just install it thorugh apt-get? sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng
[12:45] <Guest63526> E: Package 'aircrack-ng' has no installation candidate
[12:45] <Guest63526> i get this error
[12:45] <Guest63526> when i try this
[12:45] <Guest63526> apt-get doesnt work
[12:46] <Guest63526> hello?
[12:47] <basoke> hello
[12:48] <lordievader> Guest63526: Hmm it seems they removed it from the repos...
[12:49] <lordievader> Guest63526: Well just grab the .deb from here: http://ubuntu2.cica.es/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/aircrack-ng/
[12:49] <lordievader> Guest63526: And install it through there.
[12:52] <Guest63526> i get this error http://pastebin.com/qcngnYRG
[12:52] <Guest63526> when i try to install that
[12:53] <lordievader> Guest63526: This looks like toy are trying to build it, download the .deb package from the link I gave you.
[13:00] <Unmanned> I once had aircrack-ng correctly installed
[13:00] <Unmanned> maybe I can help you
[13:00] <Unmanned> let me do some quick search
[13:00] <Unmanned> (talking to Guest63526)
[13:12] <Unmanned> Guest63526, it's strange.. my packet manager can't find aircrack.ng
[13:12] <Unmanned> aircrack-ng*
[13:13] <Unmanned> I don't remember I needed to modify repositories to install aircrack-ng
[13:13] <Unmanned> so it's strange
[13:14] <lordievader> Unmanned: It's thrown out. You need to get an .deb from here: http://ubuntu2.cica.es/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/aircrack-ng/
[13:19] <basoke> anyone have any xorg.conf modifying experience? I'm having some trouble
[13:20] <Unmanned> ok lordi
[13:23] <Guest63526> airodump wont work i get this error http://pastebin.com/yny8s3VY
[13:25] <lordievader> Guest63526: Did you run airmon first?
[13:25] <Guest63526> no
[13:25] <Guest63526> ok
[13:43] <Sentynel> is the 4.9 upload to kubuntu-ppa/backports still in progress? apt's not resolving the update properly at the moment
[13:45] <Riddell> Sentynel: what's it saying?
[13:45] <Sentynel> Riddell: most of the system is held back with upgrade, or a bunch of packages removed with dist-upgrade
[13:45] <Sentynel> some prodding suggests it's a libsoprano4 version problem
[13:46] <Sentynel> "libsoprano4 is already the newest version. (...) Depends: libsoprano4 (>= 2.7.57+dfsg.1) but 2.7.5+dfsg.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed"
[13:47] <Riddell> looking
[13:49] <Riddell> Sentynel: ok soprano copying over
[13:53] <Sentynel> Riddell: great, thanks
[14:07] <killown> somebody here had kubuntu-desktop broke with the last ubuntu update?
[14:12] <killown> here is the problem http://bpaste.net/show/8uqye6UT9JCKGHcVgDuS/
[14:14] <NeutrinoPower> hi, I have installed KDE4.9.0 on archlinux but plasma-desktop don't work
[14:14] <NeutrinoPower> "QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave."
[14:15] <BluesKaj> BBL
[14:15] <Guest37320> hi, im getting this error http://pastebin.com/yRnGmDQP
[14:16] <Guest37320> what does it mean?
[14:17] <Riddell> killown: in 12.04?
[14:17] <killown> Riddell, yes
[14:18] <Riddell> Sentynel: try now
[14:18] <Riddell> killown: do you have kubuntu-ppa/backports enabled?
[14:18] <killown> Riddell, I removed it and tried so, still same result
[14:20] <Riddell> killown: try adding back now
[14:20] <killown> Riddell, I did
[14:20] <killown> and now I am trying without it again
[14:21] <killown> the two ways and same error
[14:21] <killown> broke the apt
[14:21] <Riddell> Guest37320: for gtk see #ubuntu
[14:21] <Riddell> NeutrinoPower: this is kubuntu not arch
[14:22] <NeutrinoPower> I know
[14:24] <pfoo> Riddell: kubuntu backport upgrad is working as it should right now
[14:24] <Riddell> pfoo: installed and running?
[14:24] <pfoo> yeap
[14:25] <Riddell> great
[14:32] <Guest37320> hi, im getting this error http://pastebin.com/Z8wmY0Nv
[14:32] <Guest37320> help
[14:33] <Riddell> Guest37320: try #ubuntu for compiling gtk apps
[14:34] <Riddell> Sentynel: is it working?
[14:34] <Sentynel> Riddell: just running the update, I'll tell you in a sec
[14:39] <Sentynel> Riddell: yup, all worky, thanks!
[14:40] <Riddell> Sentynel: great
[14:52] <pb> can someone direct me to information regarding the use and handeling of the widgets and activity bars please
[14:54] <BluesKaj> !plasma
[14:55] <BluesKaj> !info plasma
[14:55] <BluesKaj> heh
[14:55] <BluesKaj> !plasma-desktop
[14:55] <BluesKaj> ww
[14:56] <BluesKaj> wow , the infobot is misinformed again
[14:57] <Pici> BluesKaj: surely you mean !info plasma-destkop
[14:58] <pb> !info plasma-desktop
[14:58] <pb> the newbie use of the widget and activities bar is.. frustrating. where can I read up on these?
[14:59] <Riddell> pb: khelpcenter -> Plasma Manual
[14:59] <pb> oh and do you think a computer would run faster with kubuntu installed instead of ubuntu kde de
[14:59] <pb> Riddell: ty
[15:00] <pb> or would the effects be negligable
[15:00] <pfoo> mh, is anyone else having dolphin 2.1 (kde4.9.00) segfaulting each time you close it ?
[15:04] <pb> changing over from ubuntu kde De to kubuntu. is there a reason to choose 32 bit over 64?
[15:05] <Riddell> pb: kubuntu is ubuntu kde
[15:05] <Riddell> 64 bit is fine these days
[15:07] <pb> so having the ubuntu kde won't result in decreased performance. vs installing kubuntu only
[15:09] <Riddell> pb: it's the same thing
[15:10] <pb> allright man. ill dive into reading and configuring then. ty.
[15:12] <pb> bah wrong button. :(
[15:14] <batman> whaaaa
[15:16] <batman> loling
[15:16] <batman> lolling all day
[15:17] <pb> is offtopic chatting allowed in this channel?
[15:19] <batman> what is kubuntu
[15:19] <lordievader> pb: We got #kubuntu-offtopic for that.
[15:19] <lordievader> batman: !kubuntu
[15:19] <moytb> I just installed Kubuntu 12.04.  Noticing a lot of lag on flash sites.  Any thoughts?
[15:20] <lordievader> batman: Hmm ok that doesn't work, kubuntu is an operating system. A linux distro.
[15:20] <lordievader> moytb: Do you happen to have an ATI or nVidia graphics card?
[15:21] <moytb> lordievader: nVidia GeForce 8600M GT
[15:22] <lordievader> moytb: Have you installed the driver for it?
[15:22] <moytb> lordievader: yes.  According to the NVIDIA X Server Settings, I'm running driver 295.49
[15:23] <lordievader> moytb: Hmm ok, have you enabled (or disabled) the hardware acceleration in the flash settings?
[15:24] <moytb> lordievader: no....I have not.  How would I do that?
[15:25] <lordievader> moytb: Right click in something flash and then, I believe it is called, preferences. And then somewhere in that dialog, might be on another tab.
[15:26] <moytb> lordievader: so disable it?  Right now the default is Enabled
[15:27] <lordievader> moytb: Yes experiment, perhaps it fixes your problem.
[15:29] <moytb> lordievader: eh....not really...
[15:31] <lordievader> moytb: That is annoying... Not sure what to do next, perhaps someone else know.
[15:31] <lordievader> knows*
[15:31] <moytb> lordievader: understood....I appreciate the attempt
[15:31] <moytb> it's only on my laptop....
[15:32] <pb> im experiance flash lag and speed up too.. made me think they were possessed
[15:32] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: what wrong?
[15:32] <moytb> I isntalled ubuntu 12.04 on my desktop and have no issues.  Not sure what it is on this laptop
[15:34] <moytb> I put Ubuntu and Kubuntu on this Dell Vostro 1700.  Core Duo 2.0GHz 4 GB RAM.  Lag heavy websites lag horribly
[15:34] <moytb> can't figure out why
[15:34] <moytb> Ubuntu was just down right terrible.  Someone recommended to try Kubuntu, and the entire system runs good....
[15:35] <pb> i read kubuntu wasn't as heavy as ubuntu and xbuntu was even lighter geared for legacy systems
[15:35] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: so the problem was with ubuntuy?
[15:36] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: Well once I went to Kubuntu, and what I imagine was getting away from Unity, it runs fine, except for flash heavy sites.  Which to most people are not important, but to my wife, it is
[15:37] <moytb> so basically, this laptop with a linux distro is worthless to me unless my wife could play farmville.  ;-)
[15:37] <pb> Pogo eh moytb
[15:37] <pb> =)
[15:37] <moytb> lol...got it!
[15:38] <pb> lawl.. same boat friend
[15:38] <moytb> Ubuntu works great on my desktop
[15:38] <moytb> just not here on this laptop
[15:38] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: does this only for hd flash videos or for all types of flash video eg like 360p
[15:38] <moytb> and we're travelling this upcomign week.  I just don't want to put winblows back on it
[15:38] <pb> do you have the time to try the xbuntu or whatever the correct name is.
[15:39] <pb> i dont know what the gui looks like. and my advice is novice at best friend.
[15:39] <moytb> yeah...I saw some screenshots of xbuntu, and it wasn't anythign special.  To be honest, even Kubuntu doesn't "look" as nice
[15:40] <pb> when compairing the 3 de , i read it was the lightest and geared twords older hardware. so might be worth a shot. if you have an hour to install it i suppose.
[15:40] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: doesn't look like youtube videos are lagging at all
[15:40] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: just those stupid Facebook games
[15:41] <moytb> I mean is my hardware that old?
[15:41] <Smurphy> what are you folks using as openvpn client ? and how did you configure it ?
[15:41] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: that is suppose to happen
[15:42] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: online flash games do consume a lot of cpu
[15:42] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: yes, but system is dual booted with Win7 and it doesn't have any issues with it.
[15:43] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: I get that it's two totally different things, but I don't believe that it should be that significant
[15:43] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: what is the browser that you are using in windows?
[15:44] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: Firefox or Chrome.  Tried FF here on Kubuntu
[15:45] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: have you tried with chome in linux? not the chromium
[15:46] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: adobe officially dropped  support for flash for linux
[15:47] <moytb> I don't want to go back to Win7
[15:47] <moytb> I'd rather just not travel with my laptop
[15:47] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: only google supports with a version bundled with their chrome, soon html5 will replace flash
[15:47] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: yeah..I knew that html5 was coming
[15:48] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: have you installed chrome in linux?
[15:48] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: doing it right now
[15:51] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: I do usually use Chrome for most of my net surfing
[15:52] <pb> for the love of god. how do I get my taskmanager panel to the bottom of my screen.
[15:52] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: flash works well in chrome
[15:52] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: let's see what happens
[15:52] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: thats because google has a different version in that which is maintained by them
[15:55] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: unfortunately, it seems to be the same
[15:57] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: open system activity ie the task manager and see what process consumes more cpu
[15:57] <pb> hot dog panals are confusing and janky.
[15:58] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: the above is done while you run the flash game in the browser
[15:58] <moytb> this is so stupid trying to make this work so my wife can be addicted to that stupidity
[15:59] <pb> stupid is as stupid does.. whats ezier to live with.. a few hours frustration or a peacefull and happy wife.
[15:59] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: i do think the same, but the point is the problem need to be found
[15:59] <genii-around> I felt the same way about my gf and her desklets.
[16:02] <moytb> FF/s plugin container jumps to 50%+
[16:02] <moytb> never saw it higher than 57%
[16:02] <pb> alt+F2 opens the Krunner where there is a system activity button..
[16:03] <pb> helpfull shortcut. if not a bit late, sorry.
[16:03] <moytb> I opened the system monitor
[16:06] <moytb> that was the other thing I found too
[16:06] <moytb> ctrl+alt+T does not open up the terminal
[16:06] <moytb> nor does alt F2 do anything
[16:07] <pb> crt + alt + F2 opens the (forget the word) but its the underlying command prompt for linux.. ctr alt f7 returns you to the gui.. thats used for freezes and stuff.. its not the kubuntu command line.
[16:09] <pb> you actually have 5 of these..
[16:09] <pb> tty1-6 .. so 6 of these i mean
[16:09] <pb> usefull if something crashes. you bring it up log into root and ps -x  then kill the app
[16:10] <moytb> yeah....
[16:10] <pb> i forget the terminal or Konsole shortcut keys.. ubuntu was ctrl alt 7.. here I thought it was f4 something.
[16:10] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: It seems to be the flash-player's fault. Also there is a known issue of performance regression in hardware acceleration in the recent kernels
[16:12] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: I wonder if there's a previous build that would run better
[16:12] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: Chrome was higher on the CPU
[16:13] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: so its just the fault of flash
[16:13] <moytb> looks like it
[16:13] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: the known kerne issue is for video acceleration in flash
[16:14] <moytb> youtube and some other testing site that I use work ok
[16:14] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: any way around it or am I just out of luck?
[16:14] <MountainX> I'm running Kubuntu 12.04. What is the best way to get and install KDE 4.9?
[16:14] <pb> moytb: Here's how I assigned in.. right-click the Kickoff Application launcher icon -> Edit Applications -> System -> Konsole -> Advanced Tab -> Current Shortcut Key
[16:15] <moytb> pb: perfect...thank you
[16:15] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb:  while playing the game, increase the priority of the process in system activity, that may help
[16:16] <phoenix_firebrd> MountainX: you want kde 4.9 rc?
[16:16] <MountainX> I thought the final release of 4.9 was out now.
[16:17] <MountainX> Wednesday, August 1, 2012: KDE 4.9 Release
[16:18] <MountainX> from http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.9_Release_Schedule#Wednesday.2C_August_1.2C_2012:_KDE_4.9_Release
[16:18] <phoenix_firebrd> MountainX: right now kde 4.9 beta 2 is in beta backports
[16:19] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: would the 32bit version of the OS make any difference?
[16:19] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: it will make worse
[16:19] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: for using the 4 gb ram fully you need 64 bit
[16:20] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: yeah...I knew that, but I read on some site to try the 32bit
[16:20] <phoenix_firebrd> moytb: you can always experiment
[16:20] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: running out of time.  putzed around with this install until 3am last night
[16:21] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: is someone builing kde sc final?
[16:21] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: is someone builing kde 4.9 sc final?
[16:21] <phoenix_firebrd> *building
[16:23] <NeutrinoPower> I installed KDE4.9.0 but plasma-desktop don't work anymore
[16:23] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: it's in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports actually, but there's some issue with the library versioning (it's 4.8.0 instead of 4.9.0) so there's no announcement
[16:23] <yofel> use with care until that's fixed
[16:24] <pb> can you have your VI Desktops work independently of each other?
[16:24] <moytb> phoenix_firebrd: Flash-Aid?
[16:25] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: do you update the kubuntu ninjas etherpad?
[16:29] <rupak> black screen error
[16:33] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: usually yes, but our process changed at bit so that pad is bit outdated
[16:35] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: oh,ok.
[16:56] <moytb> can I ask a hopefully easy question?  Are the same flash problems I'm having just in the Ubuntu distros?  Would I have the same issues with Fedora?  And what are the major differences between Ubuntu and Fedora?
[17:18] <Daskreech> :-(
[17:18] <Daskreech> Sorry i missed that question
[17:42] <myname_> /quit
[19:39] <batman> thanks
[19:39] <batman> I appreicate it
[19:41] <batman> Slow in here
[19:44] <robertzaccour> I was looking into live wallpapers but from what I researched compiz is required. Is there a way this can be done in Kwin?
[20:01] <black_joe> Does anybody know how to change the default file dialog? The window that appears when one tries to upload a file, for instance.
[20:01] <black_joe> I would prefer to use Nautilus or pcmanfm instead of dolphin for that.
[20:10] <lordievader> Good evening
[20:12] <genii-around> black_joe: For Firefox, all I can find on the subject so far is to set ui.allow_platform_file_picker  on or off.. on it chooses what the desktop normally wants... off it uses the one built-in firefox
[20:13] <genii-around> ( but looks like no way of choosing on the fly which system file browser to use only for firefox ... it just uses whatever your system default is globally )
[20:15] <black_joe> Okay, I found where to change the system default.
[20:15] <black_joe> I will try it.
[20:15] <black_joe> Thanks.
[20:29] <Daskreech> hi lordievader
[20:30] <lordievader> Hey Daskreech, how are you?
[20:31] <Daskreech> lordievader: I'm ok :)
[20:31] <Daskreech> hi Earthwings
[20:32] <Earthwings> hi Daskreech
[20:32]  * Daskreech waves
[21:14] <dkeenaghan> Hey, i'm having trouble with the KDE system settings, when I try to open the Workspace Appearance/Window Decorations settings it crashes. Kubuntu 12.04 64bit, just updated to KDE 4.9. Crash information http://paste.kde.org/526802/ any help would be much appreciated, thanks
[21:16] <black_joe> It crashes trying to access a locked resource. Restarting KDE or your computer may help.
[21:17] <dkeenaghan> i've restarted a few times, and tried creating a new user, still crashes
[21:17] <black_joe> Other than the common things like making sure it is updating I have no clue then.
[21:18] <dkeenaghan> ay, thanks anyway
[21:31] <Daskreech> dkeenaghan: what happens if you open it from the command line?
[21:33] <pb> whats the command to run updates.
[21:34] <genii-around> pb: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update
[21:35] <dkeenaghan> Daskreech: if i open the systemsettings from command line and then try open window decorations it does the same thing, crashes
[21:36] <pb> genii-around:  10/4
[21:38] <dkeenaghan> though, if there's a way to change window decorations another way that would do me, then i wouldn't care about that settings module crashing
[21:38] <genii-around> dkeenaghan: Did you have some custom theme in place before you went to 4.9.0 ?
[21:38] <dkeenaghan> qtcurve yes
[21:40] <Daskreech> dkeenaghan: try kcmshell4 kwindecoration
[21:41] <flint_> hello
[21:41] <dkeenaghan> it crashes
[21:43] <Daskreech> dkeenaghan: With a output?
[21:43] <Daskreech>  flint_hi
[21:43] <dkeenaghan> http://paste.kde.org/526838/
[21:44] <genii-around> Daskreech: Very odd. From the kcmshell4 here, no side window. I'll post 2 comparison pics
[21:45] <artao> can anyone help me with Korganizer? my monthly calender insists on showing me July in month view even tho it's currently August 1st ... it correctly highlights Aug. 1, but stays on the July calender page
[21:45] <Daskreech> dkeenaghan: can you run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[21:45] <artao> i want it to auto-jump to the next month as appropriate. it should show me August when it's August.
[21:46] <Daskreech> artao: poke someone in #kontact
[21:46] <artao> aha thx
[21:46] <Daskreech> That sounds like something they may want to look at
[21:46] <dkeenaghan> Daskreech: "kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version."
[21:46] <Daskreech> For the record I was looking at the calendar here last night and it autojumped to the next month at 12:00 while Iw as looking at it
[21:46] <Daskreech> Little strange
[21:47] <genii-around> When run normally: http://imagebin.org/222937   cli with kcmshell4 kwindecoration : http://imagebin.org/222938
[21:47] <Daskreech> genii-around: Why is that strange?
[21:47] <Daskreech> THat's what it should do :)
[21:48] <Daskreech> dkeenaghan: Ok you have something off somewhere
[21:48] <dkeenaghan> yeah :(
[21:48] <Daskreech> dkeenaghan: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade gives you any thing to update?
[21:48] <genii-around> Daskreech: Can you run cursor theme, desktop theme, splash screen sub-itmes directly this way also? Just curious
[21:49] <Daskreech> genii-around: kcmshell4 --list
[21:49]  * genii-around investigates
[21:49] <dkeenaghan> Daskreech: "The following packages will be upgraded:
[21:49] <dkeenaghan>   cups cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-ppdc libcups2 libcups2:i386 libcupscgi1 libcupsdriver1 libcupsimage2
[21:49] <dkeenaghan>   libcupsimage2:i386 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1"
[21:50] <dkeenaghan> common unix printing system
[21:50] <Daskreech> dkeenaghan: Hmm not the libs I was expecting
[21:51] <dkeenaghan> Daskreech: maybe a reinstall of kde 4.9 would fix it?
[21:51] <Daskreech> dkeenaghan: Maybe but I'd probably just remove kcmshell for that and reinstall
[21:52] <dkeenaghan> Daskreech: so "sudo apt-get remove kcmshell" and then "sudo apt-get install kcmshell"?
[21:53] <michaelc22> Hello guys, How come kopete cannot connect to yahoo
[21:53] <Daskreech> michaelc22: Connects here
[21:54] <genii-around> kcmshell4 is part of package kde-runtime
[21:55] <Daskreech> ick that's going to remove basically all of KDE desktop
[21:55] <dkeenaghan> yeah
[21:55] <genii-around> Yes.
[21:56] <genii-around> dkeenagn please )han: What is result of apt-cache policy kde-runtime   ?  ( pastebi
[21:56] <genii-around> n please)
[21:56] <michaelc22> Hello guys, How come kopete cannot connect to yahoo
[21:56] <Daskreech> michaelc22: It connects here. You'll have to give more information
[21:57] <dkeenaghan> genii-around: http://paste.kde.org/526844/
[21:57] <michaelc22> I put my yahoo information into kopete and  it fails to connect to server
[21:58] <genii-around> dkeenaghan: Yes, that's the exact version I have here as well, which works.
[22:01] <michaelc22> Does anyone know why kopete cannot connect to yahoo servers? It connects to msn server fine
[22:02] <dkeenaghan> so should I sudo apt-get remove kde-runtime && sudo apt-get install kde-runtime?
[22:03] <dkeenaghan> or am i being silly  :)
[22:06] <genii-around> dkeenaghan: If you do that, make sure no X is running first, including kdm or lightdm
[22:07] <michaelc22> Does anyone know why kopete cannot connect to yahoo servers? It connects to msn server fine
[22:07] <dkeenaghan> genii-around: how does one do that
[22:08] <genii-around> dkeenaghan: Which login manager do you use? kdm,lightdm, gdm, etc
[22:09] <dkeenaghan> kdm
[22:12] <Daskreech> michaelc22: what's your yahoo server in the server information?
[22:12] <genii-around> dkeenaghan: So: ctrl-alt-f1     then: sudo service kdm stop  (  it may be an upstart job now on your system, if first command fails use instead: sudo stop kdm )  then: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-runtime    then: sudo service kdm start ( or sudo start kdm)   then: exit    then alt-f7  to obtain kdm login screen again
[22:16] <dkeenaghan> genii-around: thanks, i'll give that a go
[22:23] <dkeenaghan> genii-around: still crashing, i'll restart and see if that helps
[22:23] <genii-around> dkeenaghan: Ok, see you soon
[22:25] <dkeenaghan> genii-around: nope :/
[22:27] <genii-around> Hm
[22:34] <genii-around> dkeenaghan: Do you have kde-runtime-dbg installed?
[22:35] <dkeenaghan> genii-around: yes
[22:36] <dkeenaghan> genii-around: i clicked the install debug symbols button on the crash window eariler, i presume that's when it got installed
[22:38] <genii-around> dkeenaghan:  You could try: gdb systemsettings           then when it comes to (gdb) prompt:  run            and then when it crashes: quit    ... then copy all the output, for pastebin or bug report
[22:40] <genii-around> dkeenaghan: It may take a while to ( try to )open it's window, etc
[22:42] <dkeenaghan> genii-around: http://paste.kde.org/526856/
[22:43] <Thiudans> Is there an ETA for Rekonq 1.0 on Kubuntu 12.04?
[22:45] <Maxentius> Is there an ETA for Rekonq 1.0 on Kubuntu 12.04?
[22:46] <sean___> its in the kubuntu backports paa i think
[22:46] <Maxentius> Sean. What is the PPA command?
[22:47] <sean___> one sec
[22:47] <Maxentius> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[22:47] <Maxentius> I think I found it.
[22:49] <sean___> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[22:50] <Maxentius> Hmmm, a lot of packages in there.
[22:51] <sean___> yea but thats the only way to have rekonq 1 unless you build it from source
[22:52] <Maxentius> I guess I will wait, then. My system is very stable now. :-)
[22:53] <sean___> i just use opera, its a very good and stable browser
[22:53] <Maxentius> Ha ha. Me too!
[22:54] <sean___> whats you experance with kubuntu then ?
[22:55] <Maxentius> I have an overall really good experience. There have been a couple of minor issues since I installed two months ago on an HP DV6. I have had no issues working, but the lack of Windows games is the major hurdle for me.
[22:56] <Maxentius> Finger print reader does not work, right mouse button on track pad does not work (but gestures compensate). Other than that, only minor tweaks to get the hot keys going and everything is fine.
[22:56] <sean___> yea same for my i love playing games but i have had to cope with the web games. im running kubuntu 12.10 at the mo and loving it very stable for a alpha
[22:57] <sean___> i have had trouble with hp laptops and linux, i have a nvidia optimous card ( pain in the ass)
[22:57] <calcmandan> decided to ansewr to the distro upgrade nag to 12.04 last night. I went to sleep shortly afterward. Now that i'm home, it is still up and hung on configuring nautilus-dropbox. It's been here for hours. I'm sure there are other things to be configured after this, and i'm not sure what i can do to unstick the process. Any clues? Here is a paste of the updater window progress http://paste.ubuntu.com/1124329/
[22:58] <Maxentius> I am firtunate to use AMD, which is apparently fully supported. I used the proprietary drivers--the OS drivers were making the video card overheat.
[22:59] <sean___> i allways do a clean install as upgrading can cause some issues
[22:59] <Maxentius> Like i said, some minor issues which i was able to mitigate.
[22:59] <Maxentius> Yes, that is what I will do when the time comes.
[23:00] <calcmandan_> sorry closed out of quassel by mistake.
[23:00] <calcmandan_> did i miss something>
[23:00] <calcmandan_> i don't think i did.
[23:01] <dkeenaghan> nope
[23:01] <calcmandan_> well, if i close out of this, will an apt-get distupgrade continue from where it left off</
[23:01] <calcmandan_> ?
[23:02] <sean___> try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:02] <sean___> if not try sudo apt-get distupgrade
[23:03] <calcmandan_> ok
[23:03] <calcmandan_> here goes nothing
[23:03] <sean___> good luck
[23:03] <calcmandan_> dpkg is locked by another process.
[23:03] <calcmandan_> i used to know how to do all of this
[23:04] <calcmandan_> that's what happens when everything runs smoothly for a long time
[23:04] <sean___> the upgrade could still be upgrading in the backgroud
[23:05] <calcmandan_> well it was until i closed the upgrade utility
[23:06] <calcmandan_> i'll just kill dpkg
[23:06] <sean___> thats ur best bet and try again
[23:08] <calcmandan_> conjtinuing. phew.
[23:08] <calcmandan_> got SO many apps on here, and wine games that run perfectly...
[23:08] <sean___> what games ?
[23:09] <calcmandan_> pirates of a burning sea, star trek online, armada 2, winamp, wow for the honey, swtor.
[23:10] <localhost> also office 2010 work perfectly :)
[23:10] <calcmandan_> and had star wars galaxies too.
[23:10] <calcmandan_> but that's out.
[23:10] <calcmandan_> i use libreoffice.
[23:11] <calcmandan_> i was going to install the new biggie but they're banning users with wine installs. bastards.
[23:11] <calcmandan_> so i'm not paying $50 for a game i can't use.
[23:11] <calcmandan_> and not installing windows for a game heh
[23:12] <sean___> yea i heard about that they are saying that it is a advantage to linux users or somethinm like that
[23:12] <calcmandan> fail to see how.
[23:12] <calcmandan> but meh
[23:16] <calcmandan> well the install finished.
[23:16] <calcmandan> phew
[23:18] <calcmandan> lets see what happens after the reboot. fingers crossed.
[23:30] <robertzaccour> How do I upgrade to KDE 4.9?
[23:44] <viktor> hola
[23:44] <viktor> alguien podria decirme porque no me abre GParted en Kubuntu?
[23:44] <viktor> acabo de instalarlo
[23:44] <viktor> lo abro
[23:44] <viktor> pongo el password
[23:44] <viktor> y no abre
[23:48] <viktor> hi
[23:49] <viktor> Gparted don open in Kubuntu
[23:49] <viktor> i try to start program , insert password and dont open... why?
[23:52] <pns2050> Hello
[23:55] <viktor> hi ... no help¿