=== CTtechguy1 is now known as CTtechguy [05:33] hi! [05:34] I am a bit confused about this [05:34] A Pentium II or Celeron system with 128 MB of RAM. Desktop CD should not be used to install on systems with less than 1 GB of RAM. Please download the alternate ISO. [05:34] ^ quoted from the lubuntu wiki [05:34] what did the wiki mean by desktop cd should not be used to install on systems with less than 1gb RAM? [05:35] and where is this alternate iso? [05:35] :) [05:37] 196 is the limit for graphical installation [05:38] http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/ [05:38] Alternate install CD [05:38] you can search for that [05:38] ah [05:38] I have 256 [05:38] MB [05:38] so its fine? [05:38] it should be fine [05:39] btw I used xubuntu desktop to install as well [05:39] I am assumuing lubuntu is friendly on hardware side compared to xubuntu [05:39] is it correct? [05:40] I got a PC with 1.6ghz amd and 256mb ram [05:40] :) [05:44] tootai: hello! [05:47] bioterror: thanks for the help :) [08:16] Здравствуйте ,я решил уйти с виндовс поставил lubuntu пока доволен [08:20] Hello [08:20] Тут кто нибудь говорит по русски??? [10:16] is someone using libre office? [10:16] I have changed default language, and cannot make spell check work [10:16] It was originally us english but not any more [13:14] Hi all. Is there any software (gui) to configure keyboard shortcuts ? [13:14] I began with lubuntu 2 days ago :/ [13:14] who needs one when you can easily modify lubuntu-rc.xml ;) [13:15] too hard [13:32] hello again! [13:32] I am trying to install lubuntu 12.04 [13:33] during the "copying files" progress after a while the desktop goes blank [13:33] only the busy cursor remains and the hdd as well as the installation media shows no activity [13:33] is this normal? [13:35] happens exactly after the screen where it says LXDE is a lightweight and fast.... one with a cartoon in the screenshot [13:35] happens at that spot everytime [13:35] :) [13:41] anykind of help would be great [13:47] Hello everyone [13:48] Gosy: Hi [13:48] I have a quick question here to ask [13:48] no one seems to be active atm, but ask away anyway [13:48] I was thinking of installing Lubuntu for the first time ever, even as a linux distro, i've never ever used linux before. [13:48] iam sort of [13:48] and? [13:49] zleap: hi [13:49] hi [13:49] I'm just curious. I have an old laptop that i'm going to do it on, but i've lost all my drivers for it [13:49] umm linux doesn't need seperate drivers [13:49] How does drivers work in linux based OS? [13:49] if it does,it'll find itself [13:49] ^ [13:49] Ah, that's quite nice to hear actually [13:49] best thing to do is perhaps boot a live cd or usb stick and see if it picks stuff up i guess [13:50] ^ [13:50] that is a good advice [13:50] Think i have to go with an usb stick [13:50] since my cdrom wont work :| [13:51] Another question [13:51] ok [13:51] How does it work to play moveis in Lubuntu [13:51] VLC? [13:52] Is it depended on how my gfx card is ? [13:52] yeah vlc [13:52] linux is kind of mac [13:52] how old is this laptop [13:52] almost a year or so. I've experiencing alot of lags on it. It's a Asus Notebook with Win Starter. [13:53] When i bought it, it said that it "CAN" play up full HD movies, but last time i tried a 720p movie, it lagged and my whole screen went green [13:54] interesting [13:54] RAM? [13:54] ^ [13:54] 2gb [13:54] great! you have enought to run almost any linux distro [13:55] *enough [13:55] Yeah, but i want to try to run the most lightweight OS as possible [13:55] I really want to enjoy watching movies on it, but has really never happend [13:55] lubuntu, elementaryos, slitaz,peppermint os are all examples of light yet beautiful ones [13:56] the lightest but not so welcoming ones are puppy slax etc [13:56] I'll try out Lubuntu first then. Now over to how on earth to make a lubuntu boot usb ^^ [13:56] startup disk creator [13:56] universal usb installer [13:57] ^ [13:57] Gosy, are you using linux atm [13:57] no he says he got win7 starter [13:57] ok [13:57] No zleap. This is my main pc [13:57] ok DiFish i may have to let you explain how to make usb start up disks using windows [13:57] My laptop uses win7 starter as DiFish stated. [13:58] But the pc i'm currently typing from is using win7 64 pro [13:58] Gosy: google for universal usb installer [13:59] Allright [13:59] or goto pendrivelinux.com [13:59] there download universal usb installer [13:59] http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ ? [14:00] yep [14:00] ^ [14:02] Installing it now on the usb [14:02] ?? [14:02] I really hope i can change to boot from usb on my laptop [14:02] wait did you download the lubuntu iso from the lubuntu.org? [14:02] Yes [14:02] kk [14:02] :) [14:03] so select "Lubuntu 12.04 Desktop" from the dropdown list [14:03] select browse and select that iso [14:03] choose the appropriate usb(better to format it beforehand) [14:03] Yup, done that [14:04] once it says complete [14:05] Yes? [14:05] just reboot and get into bios(usually by pressing esc,alt+f~,del buttons) [14:05] select the boot sequence to first start with USB-HDD [14:05] Aye, will try that now, just a sec [14:05] ^ [14:07] Couldn't see the option to boot from my usb stick, but silly me, forgott to plug it in hehe [14:07] oops [14:08] zleap: think anything about mine problem? [14:08] zleap: going blank during copying files [14:09] hang on [14:09] Ah damn, my bios on my laptop doesn't support to boot from a usb stick [14:10] hello Hirsch [14:10] hi [14:10] :) [14:10] how do i install lubuntu within a running live system via terminal? [14:11] i think there was a command to do this [14:11] but i cant remember my first lubuntu installation [14:11] Gosy: its not direct usb hdd [14:11] you need to look aroudn where it list hdd [14:11] there you'll find usb hdd [14:11] ^ [14:11] Aye, was tinkering abit and found it :) [14:11] kk good luck [14:12] :) [14:12] How much RAM do i need to install the 64-bit version [14:12] no idea about that [14:12] does your CPU support 64bit? [14:12] I do know that i need a dual-core cpu [14:12] which this laptop has [14:13] not every duel core is 64bit [14:13] 64bit and ram < 4GB makes no sense [14:13] ^ right [14:13] Gosy got 1GB [14:13] No i have 2gb [14:13] 32bit [14:13] o.o [14:13] I'm thinking of upgrading it to 4gb to be honest [14:14] you only need 64bit to use all your ram if its higher than 4gb [14:14] So where do i go for installing Apps on the Lubuntu? Like vlc and such [14:14] app center [14:14] ^ [14:15] I'm trying out the "Live" lubuntu at the moment [14:15] just like ios,android,mac etc [14:15] syster>app center [14:15] Can only see a place called "Lubuntu Software Center" [14:15] is that it ? [14:16] yep [14:16] you found the right one [14:16] Wow.. this really runs smooth on my laptop .. really amazed now [14:16] :) [14:17] lubuntu has your fav google chrome aka chromium [14:17] dang! [14:17] Yeah i saw that, and was really happy about that it's pre-installed [14:17] I think I'll just make several partitions and try installing in each one in turn to see if I can skip that blank screening [14:18] :( [14:18] DiFish: : x86 means the 32-bit, right? [14:18] yep [14:18] x86 =32bit x64 = 64bit [14:19] I have a laptop running 64bit win7 ultimate [14:19] That means i'm using the 64-bit on my laptop at the moment. Should i DL the 32bit instead or it doesn't really matter which one i install ? [14:19] no awesome improvements, just a faster power drain [14:19] Gosy: if you have less than 4gb 32 bit is awesome [14:19] else 64 bit if you wantto cross that 4gb boundary [14:20] But does it really improve on longer life on the battery if i install the 32bit instead? [14:20] kind of, in case of windows it does significantly [14:20] and 32 bit in some cases look faster imo [14:20] Nah, talking about Lubuntu atm := [14:20] :) [14:20] same I suppose I was on elementaryos [14:20] moving to lubuntu now [14:21] Okey, that means i have to re-create the installing-usb stick hehe :p [14:29] When i install Lubuntu [14:30] does my previous install of the Win7 Starter get removed? [14:32] umm depends [14:32] Gosy: you have the choice in the installation program [14:32] you get an option saying install beside windows [14:32] keyword: parallel installation [14:32] just select that [14:32] Gosy: if you are not familiar with linux you can install it in windows with a .exe installer ;) [14:33] give hdd to lubuntu option makes total use of the hdd so you lose winny the pooh [14:33] and handle linux like a windows program [14:33] Nah, just remove win permanently, i rather install a fresh win xp on it later if that is required of me [14:33] it gets a full os [14:33] AAAA [14:33] ^ battery size? [14:33] Gosy: rule #1 [14:33] first install windows then linux [14:33] or windows will overwrite your mbr [14:33] We dont talk about Lubuntu :o ? [14:34] lubuntu = linux [14:34] so we are on the topic [14:34] So , if i would like win xp, i should install that firstly and afterwards lubuntu ? [14:34] yep [14:34] only if you want to have win xp besides linx [14:34] lubuntu recognises windows and installs parallel to windows [14:35] windows is blind and eats your lubuntu [14:35] ^ racism [14:38] Wow, why haven't they done something about that on Microsoft :| [14:38] DiFish : you said "you've enough ram to run almost any linux distro". Got 3Gb but kde is soooo sloooowwww and gnome3 too [14:38] Microsoft = we rule the universe [14:38] It's really common nowadays that you have double-OS [14:38] linux = we are happy with sharing, come get some cookies [14:39] I wish i knew how everything worked in Linux, i wouldn't be using win for sure [14:39] Gosy: theres wine [14:39] its an application [14:39] it runs windows *.exe [14:39] Ah sweet! [14:39] but no games [14:39] Can i use that on lubuntu also? [14:39] or well some games :P [14:39] Gosy: yep [14:40] excel/word/etc is working fine :P [14:40] but why should i use them [14:40] office.live.com has the whole office system free [14:40] there are similar free programms wich are fully compatible to win files and native linux programs [14:41] firefox/flash/java etc everything is availaible as linux version [14:41] nearly everything [14:41] everything [14:41] well just get used to it [14:41] after a while you'll love it [14:42] there are no more antivirus to guard your usb pains [14:43] I was win xp fan [14:44] but later elementaryos was awesome but it lagged a bit [14:44] so moving to lubuntu [14:49] Yeah! [14:49] what? [14:51] I really like Lubuntu [14:51] good [14:52] linux has come a long way since 1998 [14:52] its as good as mac and better than windows === rastamouse is now known as nothingspecial [14:53] i thin win is better than mac [14:54] mac> windows [14:54] linux ~ mac [14:54] they share the same core anyway [14:54] Let's say i install and overwrite my currently win7 starter edition, and decide later on that i also want win xp on it. Does my lubuntu installation get removed when i install the win xp ? [14:56] no but the bootloader [14:56] i advise you to install windows first [14:57] then you dont have to manage problems etc [14:58] Gosy: best option, install xp, wubi to install lubuntu [14:58] aw man, how am i suppose to find a decent 32bits win xp now , AND another boost-usb disk [14:58] all happily ever after [14:58] What's wubi? [15:00] its a windows program to install linux beside windows [15:00] But how am i suppose to install drivers for my laptop on windows. As i said before, i dont have the drivers cd left for it, even if i had, my cdrom wont work haha [15:00] problem after problem. [15:00] install linux like a program [15:01] you can uninstall linux like anyother iwndows program if you don't like it [15:01] that easy [15:02] But will it work as a fully installed OS? [15:11] sure [15:11] why not? [15:24] No idea, i dont know how linux works so, it sounds abit wierd that you install a full OS via an .exe file in windows hehe [15:26] Gosy: try it [15:26] its really good for beginners [15:26] wubi installer [15:26] 5MB or so [15:26] its really easy [15:35] Gosy: wubi is already there in your usb stick [15:35] the one you used to boot live [15:35] :) === TheDrums is now known as Guest88176 [16:30] Hmm ok [17:05] finally, installing windows 32 now, so i can install lubuntu :| [17:23] DiFish: [17:23] you there ? [17:45] lubu, hi :d [17:45] hello [17:46] lubu, nice to see you. [17:46] yes [17:46] hiho [17:46] Hi Gosy [17:46] hi Gosy [17:49] So if i have double-OS installed on my laptop [17:49] how do i force my laptop to boot Lubuntu as first "OS" [17:49] choice. [17:53] no1? [18:08] Gosy: GRUB should default to the lubuntu install unless you installed the other OS after [18:13] prefect timing lol [18:13] i was just about to install lubuntu now [18:13] i just installed winxp 32 [18:13] there ya go [18:14] but if you want to tweak this or other GRUB settings https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Configuring_GRUB_2 [18:14] might want to check the partitiioning btw [18:14] typical install is to split the drive in two [18:14] damn [18:14] didn't partition it when i just recently installed win [18:15] what i mean is lubuntu will take care of it [18:15] but if you just let it run it will split it in two [18:15] you may prefer it to be more like 40:60 or whatever [18:15] I don't really care how much it splits for the windows, since i wont be using it unless it's really necessary for me to do [18:16] well if you let it run, it will give 50% of your drive to windows [18:16] if you don't plan on using windows much, you might want to give it less [18:16] but wxl : when i'm installing Lubuntu now, is it going to boot from it whenever i hit up my pc ? [18:16] should default to lubuntu [18:17] Allright, i'll ask more here as i'm about to install it now [18:17] you might enjoy this https://launchintolinux.wordpress.com/2012/04/04/installing-lubuntu-a-step-by-step-guide-to-dual-booting/ [18:17] just conf my usb stick :p [18:18] Sweet, thanks man [18:18] np [18:18] that's really helpfull [18:31] bye! :p [18:48] for some strange reason now [18:48] my laptop wont read my usb-stick [18:48] and just loads winxp [18:48] how did you make that usb stick [18:52] from universal usb installer [18:52] I would prefer just dd [18:52] ah okey , well i made it work now [18:53] i re-did the usb stick [18:53] good [18:53] and now it works [18:53] had to conf the bios again [18:59] Hi [19:12] damn [19:12] i followed the steps you gave me wxl [19:12] but i think i did the partition part wrong [19:12] gave lubuntu 50gb and win 250 :| [19:12] um [19:13] yeah [19:13] there isn't any way to reverse this is there [19:14] well you can grow/shrink partitions [19:14] of course you always risk mucking up the hard drive but my experience has been that that risk is minimal [19:16] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ResizingPartition [19:16] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions [19:20] i will prolly fail [19:20] but i'm going to take that risk and try to learn something out of it [19:22] good idea [19:22] if you fail, you just reinstall [19:22] no big [19:22] aye [19:22] thx for the help tho, much appriciated [19:22] np [19:54] this is so sweet [19:54] lubuntu is running so smoothly [19:54] it's incredible [19:54] Gosy: that's what it do XD [19:55] unbelievablely smooth when browsing and watching a movie [19:55] you dont seem watch 1080p l5.1 movie ;) [19:55] +t0 [19:55] to [20:20] does lubuntu have software-centre installed by default? [20:20] It has the Lubuntu software center. [20:20] o.O) [20:21] well i am using an old lubuntu version [20:21] !info lubuntu-software-center [20:21] lubuntu-software-center (source: lubuntu-software-center): Utility for browsing, installing, removing applications on Lubuntu. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0.5~bzr135-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 87 kB, installed size 687 kB [20:21] i installed it before lubuntu was an official *buntu [20:21] and installed software-center instead [20:22] whats the difference between lubuntu-software-center and software-center [20:22] another one is lubuntu orientated :D [20:22] guess which one :D [20:23] mh let me guess... ^^ [20:24] well i thought about updating my whole lubuntu system [20:24] you should do it :-) [20:24] but i have fear that my wifi card config will be lost [20:24] and it was hard to get it working under lubuntu [20:24] never kill a running system [20:24] configuring GNU/Linux operating system is best thing what you can do wearing pants on [20:25] and my openbox.conf is so modified that it looks like gnome [20:25] dothey stay compatible [20:25] ? [20:25] should stay [20:27] sudo apt-get install lubuntu-software-center [20:27] Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig [20:27] Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut [20:27] Statusinformationen werden eingelesen... Fertig [20:27] E: Paket lubuntu-software-center kann nicht gefunden werden [20:28] my lubuntu is too old [20:28] and i dont have time to add/search fo new ressources :P [20:28] and it speaks romantic language [20:28] well thats german :p [20:28] what version u using [20:29] uh [20:29] Hirsch, lsb-release -cd [20:29] * zleap is updating debian on rasp pI [20:29] I ordered a case for pie, but never got the unit itself ordered yet, as they dont support paypal [20:30] how they can mess up a thing like that [20:30] Linux version 2.6.38-15-generic (buildd@aatxe) (gcc version 4.5.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.5.2-8ubuntu4) ) #64-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 6 17:18:17 UTC 2012 [20:33] i get the message i have "ubuntu 11.04" installed [20:34] around that release the development of lsc started [20:35] It's in 12.04 by default, and will be for 12.10 as well. [20:35] hij bob_ [20:35] ok [20:35] i have installed lubuntu today but now i have a problem.... if i plug in my adapter now my laptop will not charge [20:36] should be a laptop problem [20:36] does anyone know a solution for that [20:36] not a lubuntu problem [20:36] you could say that's a problem [20:36] turn off the pc and see if it will charge [20:37] if my pc is turned off it will charge but when itś turned on it won charge [20:37]