[08:50] <arno1> Hi all. Got a question regarding fan speed regulation. In installed lm-sensors but sudo sensors-detect doesn't find any sensors. I'm on a Dell Optiplex GX520. It's a common PC I guess...
[08:55] <bioterror> yes but sensors doesnt control the fans
[08:55] <bioterror> it just reads the speeds
[08:55] <bioterror> and temperatures
[09:02] <arno1> I know. It doesn't find any sensors.
[09:04] <bioterror> those GX series are quite old office models
[09:04] <bioterror> I would try some vacuum cleaner or air pressure for the fans
[09:04] <bioterror> to make quieter
[09:05] <bioterror> could do some wonders
[09:42] <arno1> There's not much dust. I upgraded the PC. It's now got 2 GB RAM and a 3.2 GHz P4. That's not bad. So dust isn't the problem.
[12:52] <Stevemav> hello
[12:52] <Stevemav> I want to install Ubuntu 12.04 and windows 7, with the boot sequence of both OS's on my SSD, and the actual data (/home etc) on my other HDD. However, after installing the Windows 7 partitions correctly, I've tried to add the /boot ext4 partition, and the remaining space is saying unusable
[12:53] <geirha> Perhaps you've used up the number of primary partitions? It's limited to 4
[12:54] <Stevemav> aha! I'll give that a check :)
[12:54] <Stevemav> hmm
[12:55] <Stevemav> I'm unsure of how to check that
[12:55] <geirha> sudo fdisk -l   or   gparted
[12:56] <Stevemav> I can't log in yet, as I'm in the installation process at the moment
[12:56] <Stevemav> however it's very likely, going off what I've installed in the past and how many partitions present, that this has happened.
[12:57] <geirha> Did you create the /boot in the installer now?
[12:57] <Stevemav> yeah, it works, however the remaining space is saying unusable
[12:57] <geirha> If so, delete it again, create an extended partition that covers all available space, then you can add lots of logical partitions inside it
[12:58] <Stevemav> ok that's great, what mount point should the initial Primary partition be called?
[12:59] <geirha> /
[12:59] <Stevemav> kk
[12:59] <geirha> or wait, what?
[12:59] <geirha> Why do you need a /boot btw?
[13:01] <Stevemav> When I initially installed Ubuntu on it's own, I followed a guide and got some help setting it up, and it included a /boot partition. I had to reinstall, and didn't use the /boot partition as I didn't have the link with me forn the guide, and the system ran a lot slower
[13:01] <geirha> Hum, I don't see how a /boot partition could speed up the system
[13:02] <Stevemav> ah, for enough. so just a swap, /home and / will be enough?
[13:03] <geirha> yeah, and it doesn't matter if they're primary or logical
[13:03] <Stevemav> http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/07/23/dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7-on-a-computer-with-2-hard-drives/2/ this is the guide I've used this time around, they also have the guide I used in the past
[13:04] <blackarchan> Stevemav, they use /boot because they have 2 hdds
[13:04] <blackarchan> one for linux one for windows
[13:05] <Stevemav> ok, I'm using two as well
[13:05] <Stevemav> well, one SSD and one HDD
[13:05] <blackarchan> and its better to have /boot if somthing happens...but its more trouble this way
[13:05] <geirha> I still fail to see the point of separating /boot
[13:05] <blackarchan> why don`t you install win+ubuntu on ssd? it will be faster
[13:06] <geirha> From what I can gather, he wants win+ubuntu system on ssd, /home and other data partitions on other hdd
[13:06] <Stevemav> the SSD is only 64GB, so I want to install all the processing related data on them for both, and have the 1TB HDD for files ets
[13:06] <Stevemav> that's right
[13:07] <blackarchan> then have only swap /home if you want and /
[13:07] <blackarchan> i normaly dont have even /home
[13:07] <geirha> So I'd go with 1 NTFS partition for windows 7, 1 ext4 partition for /, and 1 swap partition on the ssd
[13:07] <geirha> Then /home and D: on the other
[13:08] <Stevemav> Yeah cool. win7 has put in two ntfs partitions on the SSD, one is only 104MB and the other is much larger
[13:08] <blackarchan> he could have /home in / and make link to all the data to the hdd
[13:09] <Stevemav> I'll run with SSD the 2 win7 partitions+/ and swap, and HDD with the win7+/home
[13:09] <Stevemav> and see if I run into any horribleness
[13:10] <geirha> The first one is perhaps some recovery partition
[13:11] <Stevemav> yeah sounds right
[13:11] <Stevemav> any point importing win7 data?
[13:13] <geirha> Hm. That's probably copying browser bookmarks and stuff..?
[13:14] <Stevemav> meh both installs are so new there won't be a point
[13:14] <Stevemav> cool thanks heaps for your help guys
[13:18] <Stevemav> have a wonderful day!
[18:44] <DEA_ARO> can someone assist me with a Ubuntu Live/trial CD question
[18:44] <krytarik> !ask | DEA_ARO
[18:45] <ubot2> DEA_ARO: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[18:46] <DEA_ARO> i have a windows 7 computer that is currently unbootable and i am using a Ubuntu live cd to run the trial from to see my HD
[18:46] <DEA_ARO> that has worked however i dont see the files inside the folders and when i try to copy a folder over to an external HD i get this error
[18:46] <DEA_ARO> Error splicing file: Input/output error
[18:47] <DEA_ARO> i am not sure why i can not see the files inside the folders
[18:52] <krytarik> DEA_ARO, seems pretty much like a failing HDD to me, unfortunately - there might be ways, however, to try to recover some of the data that's on that HDD.
[19:15] <DEA_ARO> krytarik, do you know of another way?  i can see the HDD and drill down through the folders, i just cant see files within the folders.  i was able to copy my outlook .pst file.  i am trying to recover photographs and my itunes backups
[19:21] <krytarik> DEA_ARO, I myself have not much experience with recovering actual data itself, only with recovering lost partitions, but this guide may be of help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery/
[19:26] <DEA_ARO> thank you i will look at it.  do you know of any reason why someone would get an error copy and pasting to an external HD
[19:28] <DEA_ARO> i see this guide applies to Ubuntu 7.04, 7.10 and 8.04.  the trial cd i made is Ubuntu 12.04.  should I make the Trial CD using an older version of Ubuntu?
[19:32] <krytarik> DEA_ARO, yeah, I see the introduction stating that, but since the guide was 'last edited 2012-01-28' (see bottom of the page), and there aren't actually too many changes on that end, usually, most of the stuff in the guide should still be true.
[19:35] <krytarik> DEA_ARO, also, using any outdated versions of any OS is generally a pretty bad idea, for numerous reasons, not even just as a LiveCD.
[20:02] <DEA_ARO> ok then i will stick with the newest version of the rescue disk
[20:39] <DEA_ARO> is there anything specific i need to do to my the external hard drive that I will be copying my data to? also does it make a difference the size of the file I am copying
[20:51] <krytarik> DEA_ARO, Depends, if you are about to copy a file greater than 4 GB, then you can't use FAT32 obviously, for example; apart from that, you can use pretty much any file system you prefer.
[21:07] <DEA_ARO> is it better to create a folder on the home network and copy them to that over the network?
[21:11] <krytarik> DEA_ARO, not if you can avoid that - direct copy from one HDD to another is usually to prefer.
[21:12] <DEA_ARO> it must be that the initial file was larger than 4 gb and then maybe that caused the hinkyness
[21:13] <DEA_ARO> i tried to simply copy my entire User file...oooppps
[21:35] <DEA_ARO> thank you