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nigelbjcastro: when in doubt, blame nigelb? :D01:21
mhall119nigelb: usurping popey's job?01:22
nigelbmhall119: Oh, I don't shut down things.01:22
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jussigood morning all!06:40
jcastroimbrandon_: over here for forums stuff12:55
jcastrook so for sure they'll need the license?12:55
jcastroWHAT.12:55
jcastrolink me up to this plugin12:55
imbrandon_http://janrain.com/products/13:01
imbrandon_"engage"13:01
jcastrois there a link to the actual plugin?13:01
imbrandon_$100 bux a year, works with openid and lots of others too, its what vb is pointing people too as they have said13:02
imbrandon_their hands are clean of the whole thing13:02
imbrandon_the plugin is on github13:02
imbrandon_but is no good without the service lic13:02
jcastrotheir web page says nothing though13:03
jcastroit's just a webform13:03
imbrandon_ok let me dig it all up again , one sec13:03
jcastrohttp://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26300313:04
jcastrohere it is13:04
jcastrolast update last January?13:04
jcastrohah dude13:04
jcastrothis is for 5,000 users13:04
jcastrothere's like 1.5 million forums accounts13:04
imbrandon_http://janrain.com/products/engage/engage-pricing/13:05
imbrandon_yea, thats another reason i say that we join forces with the fellas from Vanilla forums that broke from VB and migrate, i read about it like 2 hours last night, aparently its a science now13:05
imbrandon_and can be done without users knowing at all13:06
imbrandon_no url loss, or user resets etc etc13:06
marcoceppiwhat about theming?13:06
marcoceppithemeing, even.13:06
imbrandon_its a humoungus task but its fully opensource too13:06
imbrandon_and yea themeing13:06
jcastromoving forum software isn't even on the table13:07
jcastroI've gone down that road and no one wants to move from vbulletin for some reason13:07
imbrandon_get me the data or 10 minutes with sabdfl13:07
imbrandon_heh13:07
imbrandon_but yea that looks like our optinos at the moment, is pay out the nose, or reinvent the wheel but thats even hard as we need access to canonical lic to even dev13:08
imbrandon_localy13:09
imbrandon_i'll dig a little more tonight, but it looks semi bleek even for those in the know ... and maybe a $25k+ pricetag will change their tone aobut migration13:09
jcastrogetting a license to dev on isn't a problem13:10
imbrandon_kk13:10
imbrandon_i need one of those then please for later today when i have time to circle back around13:10
* jcastro works that13:12
imbrandon_thinking about it, i may be able to just rip the openid bits out of the plugin they have on github, i'll work that line tonight13:12
imbrandon_its gplv3 so nothing shady13:13
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jcastrowe hanging on?14:58
jcastroI mean out14:58
jonoballoons, dpm, jcastro, mhall119 all set?15:01
jcastroyup yup15:01
dpmyep15:01
balloonsin the dark, in the night15:01
jonohah15:02
jonosetting it up15:02
jonoballoons, dpm, jcastro, mhall119 https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/297974d72f6147bff0b7d319792f04a82c910274?authuser=0&hl=en-US15:02
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pleia2jcastro: I think it was hit by a pterodactyl! (that seems to be the only logical conclusion) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2181872/Bird-strike-leaves-MASSIVE-hole-United-Airlines-jet-lands-Denver-airport.html15:33
jcastrohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatlus15:34
pleia2:)15:34
bkerensaimbrandon: didnt vbulletin have a sso mod with openid that they totall gave up on with vb4?15:55
imbrandonbkerensa: yes, they said they were not going to develop one , only the community15:57
imbrandonbut good news its not near as bleek as i thought15:57
bkerensahuh15:57
bkerensaJainrain is a Portland company ;)15:57
bkerensaJanrain*15:57
imbrandoni've been poking at the code in anticipation of a lic to hack with and found a some solid solutions i think15:57
* bkerensa should use his vbulletin license sometime in the next decade15:58
bkerensa;p15:58
imbrandonno you shouldent, you should use vanilla15:58
imbrandon:)15:58
imbrandonif i get hell for OSX ... lol15:59
imbrandonanyhow, it seems that Google is actually gonna pull this one out of the hat for me, i just need to tie all the bits togather from their git ( not the source control ) and hopefully shortly ( compareatively ) we'll be golden16:00
imbrandonfrom the digging this afternoon at leaste16:00
bkerensaimbrandon: or phpbb16:01
bkerensa:)16:01
imbrandonewww16:01
imbrandoni disown you16:01
bkerensabetter than vbulletin16:01
bkerensa;)16:01
pleia2hehe16:01
pleia2mailman4ever16:02
pleia2(what do you mean that's not forums software?!)16:02
imbrandonthats like the choice to chew your arm off to get out the coyotte trap AKA her head on the pillow your arms under when you wake up16:02
* pleia2 returns to her basement16:02
imbrandonnot much of one at all16:02
imbrandonpleia2: hahahah ^516:02
mhall119jono: can you reddit and tweet http://mhall119.com/2012/08/app-developer-qa/ for me?16:38
mhall119or dpm ^^16:38
bkerensamhall119: taking care of it16:40
dpmmhall119, done16:41
mhall119thanks16:41
dpmyou might want to get someone else to retweet, I don't use twitter much, and Jono or someone else has got waaay more followers16:41
dpmmhall119, I can't stay for the Q&A today unfortunately, but good luck with it and let me know how it went tomorrow!16:43
dpmgood bye everyone16:45
JoseeAntonioRmhall119: PM16:45
jonomhall119, done16:57
mhall119thanks jono16:58
bkerensamhall119: RT'ed17:01
bkerensajcastro: is there no way to swap keys on hpcloud?17:38
jcastroswap keys?17:39
bkerensajcastro: nvm17:42
jcastrojono: let's ninja, 5min or so good for you?17:52
jonojcastro, sorry, stuck on a call17:53
jonojust be wrapping in 717:53
bkerensajcastro: so were having early talks about a multiuser group lightning talks in Portland... I think I am going to talk Juju unless you wanna fly over :P17:54
jcastronod17:54
jcastrobkerensa: you've got the flyers right?\17:54
bkerensaumm some17:54
bkerensa;)17:54
bkerensaI wasnt taking two boxes home17:54
bkerensaI have about 50 or so17:55
jcastrowho got the rest?17:55
bkerensaphilballew took some17:55
bkerensaand some other people17:55
jcastrorawk17:55
philballewyeah, I'm gonna sell them on ebay for a few bucks each.17:59
bkerensa:D17:59
jonojcastro, two mins18:00
jonojcastro, lets go18:04
jcastroYEAH!18:04
jonojcastro, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/1bd844a6b379ad037d8706d616d0db18bb798731?authuser=0&hl=en-US18:05
jcastrojono: also: https://plus.google.com/100530892038948253747/posts/42wAifTLmmN18:45
jonojcastro, post not found18:46
jcastroah, shared.18:47
jonohah!18:50
bkerensaI love it18:53
bkerensagot a etherpad going for a event being planned18:54
jcastrothe charm?18:54
bkerensasomeone wrote "Urban Airship has kegs if they host"18:54
bkerensalol18:54
bkerensajcastro: I will talk Juju :D18:54
jcastro\o/18:55
jcastrobkerensa: so my demo plan from now on18:55
jcastrois to do like "oh let's add SPDY to this webapp"18:55
jcastrothen deploy brandon's charm18:55
jcastrothen hit F5 on the browser .... BLAM.18:55
bkerensalol18:56
jcastropopey: ok, should I turn off the HP Cloud instances?19:01
doctormo-labHey guys19:04
bkerensahi doctormo-lab19:05
pleia2g'day doctormo-lab19:05
philballewoh hey doctormo-lab !!!19:05
doctormo-labI just fixed an issue in lab-session-manager, but I'm on a lab machine without credentials. What's the best way of getting my branch somewhere online?19:07
mhall119doctormo-lab: can you ssh anywhere?19:07
doctormo-labmhall119: I can to here from home.19:08
doctormo-labMaybe I should just park it on the server here and grab it when at home19:08
mhall119you can push it to home then19:08
jcastro<-- caffeine refill, bbi 1019:22
jcastromhall119: hey I saw he filed that bug!19:22
jcastrowrt. the AU lens19:22
mhall119jcastro: me to19:23
mhall119no AU, "Help" lens now19:23
bkerensamhall119: what date will the showdown results be announced?19:42
bkerensaI have been asked19:42
mhall119bkerensa: I think it's planned for tomorrow, dpm was trying to get them into the Software Center before hand19:42
mhall119well, trying to get the 3 winners in the software center anyway19:42
doctormo-labmhall119: Shouldn't most of the contestants be in the software center19:43
bkerensamhall119: Can we perhaps get a heads up for a post on OMG?19:43
mhall119doctormo-lab: ideally, yes19:43
bkerensathat way when you announce we can click "Publish"19:43
mhall119doctormo-lab: in reality, we're bottle-necked on getting them reviewed and approved19:43
jonomhall119, is it possible to embed the video and IRC widgets into the wiki for tutorial sessions?19:58
bkerensanot likely19:59
bkerensaI think we have that module disabled or not even installed19:59
mhall119I doubt it19:59
mhall119the wiki doesn't like embedding html20:00
bkerensawhich is why SUMO is great20:00
bkerensa:D20:00
mhall119jono: we can do it on developer.ubuntu.com though20:00
mhall119or ubuntuonair.com20:00
jonoooh ubuntuonair will work20:01
jonoI want to run some Ubuntu Accomplishments tutorial sessions next week20:01
mhall119jono: JoseeAntonioR can help you, he got it going for me20:01
jonomhall119, can you help me get these set up?20:01
mhall119see above20:01
mhall119I don't have access to the site20:01
jonoJoseeAntonioR, hey20:01
jonocan you help me?20:01
mhall119jcastro might have access20:01
doctormo-labmhall119: I did a whole bunch of reviewing, is this a secondary process to the inital reviews?20:02
jcastroI think I might20:03
bkerensa:D20:03
jcastrobut we move onair back and for from popey's server to HP20:03
mhall119doctormo-lab: about half of the initial reviews put the app up for voting, the other half were sent back to the developer for changes20:03
jcastrowe can keep it on HP Cloud though if we want more of this, though really what we need to do longterm is do onair.ubuntu.com with proper gear20:03
mhall119some of the ones sent back for changes have been updated by the developer, so the review needs to be done again20:04
jonojcastro, can we keep it online20:04
jonountil I have done these sessions next week?20:05
jcastrosure20:05
jcastroeasy peasy, we do need to change dns back though20:05
jcastrodang, popey left.20:06
jcastrojono: what exact day do you start?20:06
jonojcastro, I am writing the schedule now20:07
jonojcastro, then you should be all set20:07
jcastrowell, we need at least 24 hours for DNS to switch over back to the HP servers20:07
bkerensaWhat20:08
bkerensa>.<20:08
jcastroso as long as it's not like this week Friday20:08
bkerensa24 hours?20:08
snap-lbkerensa: At least20:08
bkerensaDNS propagates much faster than that.... this isnt 199520:08
mhall119bkerensa: to make sure most dns servers have updated20:08
snap-lDNS changes take a while20:08
bkerensaunless your on a podunk isp20:08
bkerensa:D20:08
jcastroright, that doesn't mean I will be dumb and say "give me 10 minutes."20:08
snap-lMy linode changes take ~24 hours20:08
jcastro24 hours.20:08
jcastroScotty doesn't tell Kirk 15 minutes, he says 8 hours. Then when he does it in 6 he's a legend.20:09
bkerensasnap-l: thats because Linode limits their DNS they only update every hour20:09
jonojcastro, Tues next week20:09
jcastroeasy peasy20:09
jcastrocool, I sent a mail to popey, when he switches it I'll add you an account and mail you the info20:11
jcastrojono: you want IRC instead of where the disqus comments are currently right?20:12
jcastroanyone have the embedded IRC widget info handy? All I can find is mibbit stuff20:15
jcastroor a page where we have it already?20:15
jonojcastro, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accomplishments/Classroom20:15
mhall119jcastro: http://webchat.freenode.net/20:16
jonoyeah, I would like this to have IRC if possible20:16
Picijcastro: http://webchat.freenode.net/ click the little menu in the upper left, and then "add webchat to your website"20:16
mhall119click the icon in the top corner, then "Add webchat to your site"20:16
jcastrojono: which IRC channel will you want them to go to?20:16
jonolets do #ubuntu-accomplishments20:16
mhall119#ubuntu-on-air is what I used20:16
jonoeither is fine20:16
jonothanks jcastro, mhall11920:17
jcastrohttp://15.185.102.24320:17
jcastroso that? (adjusting the other stuff, but is that the gist?)20:18
jcastrojono: man, this will be awesome20:24
jcastroI've almost got it20:25
JoseeAntonioRjono: pong20:25
jcastroJoseeAntonioR: hey so TLDR20:26
jcastrohe wants to reuse ubuntuonair again20:26
JoseeAntonioRsure20:26
JoseeAntonioRubuntuonair.joseeantonior.com points to that ip, but I'm having troubles with the layout...20:27
jonoJoseeAntonioR, yep, I want to run some UBuntu Accomplishments tutorial sessions next week20:27
JoseeAntonioRhave you already got the schedule?20:28
jcastroyeah20:29
jcastroI got it20:29
jcastrologo is a bit too big, I'm going to comment it out for now.20:29
jonothanks for helping jcastro20:30
jcastrohttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/accomplishments.png20:30
jcastrohow's this?20:30
jcastropretend that's you instead of leann of course. :)20:31
JoseeAntonioRseems fine20:31
mhall119jcastro: JoseeAntonioR: can ubuntuonair.com keep pages for past sessions?20:31
jcastrook so we just need popey to switch DNS, then I'll add jono20:32
JoseeAntonioRmhall119: yep, it keeps up to 25 revisions20:32
jcastromhall119: good idea20:32
jcastrois there a way to split off a certain revision as a new page?20:32
jcastrothat would be perfect20:32
jcastropleia2: hey so this gives me an idea20:32
mhall119JoseeAntonioR: browseable?  Like, so people can go back and see my video (and possibly irclog)?20:32
JoseeAntonioRmaybe you can just copy the code20:32
JoseeAntonioRmhall119: nope, I would need to re-post the page20:33
jcastro<pleia2> That sounds awesome jorge, what is it.20:33
jcastrowell I am glad you asked20:34
jcastroso I was thinking ...20:34
jcastroubuntuonair.com -> classroom.ubuntu.com20:34
jcastroand it's basically just a splash page for the existing stuff20:34
jcastroand when we do onair stuff, you just plop the video widget on top, and leave irc/disqus on the bottom20:34
jcastrobasically, we have a pretty splash page for all events that's more presentable and usable20:35
jcastrothen it takes like, 3 minutes to tailor the splash page for the given event.20:36
jcastrowhich is fine because all the normal event planning stuff the individual host (in this case jono) is already doing on the wiki20:36
jcastrothen you tell people "when your event is done put the next event from the classroom calendar on the splash page."20:37
* jcastro kills the room20:37
jcastrojono: this basically gives us ustream-like UX.20:41
jonojcastro, indeed20:41
jonomhall119, can we have a quick call to discuss the app process doc?20:42
jonomhall119, actually, lets just discuss it in our meeting tomorrow20:43
bkerensajono: Zohar at Kaltura said he would love to see us using Open Source Video Platform ;)20:46
jonobkerensa, I am sure :-)20:47
jonoif they can provide a better solution we would be happy to use it20:47
jonobut that solution would need to be free :-)20:47
JoseeAntonioRjono: all the sessions should now appear on the calendar tab20:47
jonothanks JoseeAntonioR!20:47
bkerensajono: Zohar said they could sponsor it20:47
bkerensa;p20:47
jcastrobkerensa: I have a better deal20:47
jcastrocharm it.20:47
jcastroand we'll try it20:48
bkerensaLOL20:48
jonoI am shocked Jorge was going to say that20:48
bkerensatell Zohar to charm it20:48
jono:-)20:48
jcastro(not you personally, but charms)20:48
jcastroit's just simple how people do things. If I say "try this software" and one is in the archive, and the other is not, which one will you try?20:48
bkerensajcastro: they should make you VP of marketing ;) your pushing Juju harder than anything else Canonical is working on20:49
bkerensa;p20:49
jcastroalmost as if it's my job. :p20:49
JoseeAntonioRjono: would you like AirBot to join you in the sessions? it's a classbot mod20:49
jcastrono seriously, if they charm it I'd love to give it a shot20:49
jonoJoseeAntonioR, yes please20:49
JoseeAntonioRok, let me talk to nhandler and pleia2 and I'll get it running20:50
jcastroand it's nice for them, it gives them AWS, HP Cloud, and each upcoming provider ootb.20:50
bkerensaIll ping Zohar about it20:51
jcastroyeah just say I'm willing to try it20:51
jcastrodon't be like "ubuntu is willing to do every web video thing ever on your platform" or something20:51
mhall119jono: tomorrow is fine by me, I've updated the spec page20:52
mhall119well, I updated it yesterday20:52
jcastro"ubuntu community team says our platform is awesome, will use it to broadcast live metal events", and so on20:52
mhall119living metal?20:53
pleia2jcastro: sorry, it's been a busy day at work (lunch now!)21:04
pleia2jcastro: I'd really rather not hijack the classroom name for all ubuntu on air stuff, I think it would get confusing :\21:04
pleia2and classroom is my baby :) I can't do this on air stuff at all21:05
jcastrowhat if we just call it all classroom?21:05
jcastroI mean, the onair thing is basically just OpenWeek gone wild.21:05
bkerensaoh noes gone wild21:06
pleia2if we're clear about what's IRC-based and what's going to be video-based we may be able to make that work21:06
pleia2probably requires some bot patches so the classroom bot ignores calendar entries for on air (assuming they use the same calendar)21:07
pleia2and I don't really want to do any of this until we're sure what we're want (not thrilled with nhandler spending the time to rewrite the bot for Air and me spending the time setting up the hosting account for it just to have it trashed 2 days later)21:08
pleia2anyway, I'm mostly concerned about people being confused, consumption of irc-based classes is very different than video, there are lots of folks like me who can attend irc ones but can't video ones due to work constraints, so it's important for it to be clear :)21:14
czajkowskipleia2: that makes sense21:17
jonojcastro, it seems http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/sponsorship/ is not there any more21:17
jonowhat is the new page for that now?21:17
jcastroone sec21:18
jonothanks21:18
jonomy announce is all ready to go21:18
jcastrojono: I believe it's just gone, we point people right to summit, which has all the info on the front page21:18
jcastromhall119: ^^ right?21:18
JoseeAntonioRjono: there's no sponsorship explanation page anymore21:18
jonojcastro, it isnt on the front page21:19
jcastrohttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/21:19
jcastrotop right21:19
JoseeAntonioRjono: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/sponsorship to apply21:19
jonoaha!21:19
jcastroaha!21:19
jonowow that page looks screwed up21:20
JoseeAntonioRjono: because of the CSS error?21:20
jonoyup21:20
JoseeAntonioRjono: already fixed, just need to push it to the actual page21:20
JoseeAntonioRcjohnston: ^^21:20
mhall119jcastro: I don't know what used to be on uds.ubuntu.com21:20
mhall119I think they changed it after we finished accepting applicants21:21
mhall119last UDS21:21
JoseeAntonioRmhall119: you're right21:22
jcastrophilballew: around?21:34
philballewaround21:34
jcastroyou're a forum mod right?21:34
philballewno, I am not, but theres some people around who are21:35
cjohnstonjono: I'm waiting for IS to deploy for the CSS error21:35
jonothanks cjohnston21:35
jcastrohmm, thought you were21:35
cjohnstonnp21:35
cjohnstondo you want me to ping and try to get it done now?21:36
philballewI wish, If I am ever needed to be one I totally will.21:36
JoseeAntonioRjono: uds.ubuntu.com/event instead of /travel, but it auto-redirects22:23
jonothanks JoseeAntonioR22:23
popeyjono, jcastro JoseeAntonioR flipped dns to 15.185.102.24322:30
jcastro<322:30
JoseeAntonioRthanks, popey!22:30
jonothanks popey22:30
popeynp22:31
jcastrojono: I am a total fanboy lamer22:38
jcastrohttps://twitter.com/castrojo/status/23079443438253260822:38
jcastroI mean, it was on, and I wanted to tell the guy22:38
jonojcastro, hah22:38
jcastrowhat's sad is I will wait here until he responds22:38
jonoI think it is always cool to tell people when you dig their work22:38
jonohaha22:38
jonoindeed22:38
jcastroI love how he totally is like, asleep22:39
jcastroas if he's bored22:39
jcastroit's bs too, on the blueray he's like "that solo takes everything out of you" and then on the actual concert he's like "yawn ....."22:39
jcastrothat's how awesome he is22:39
jcastrojono: you ever meet jason clinton?22:46
jcastrohe's an old gnomer22:46
jcastroends up he works on google wallet, I used it for the first time today22:46
jonojcastro, yeah22:48
jonoahhh cool22:48
greg-gjcastro: too bad he doesn't use twitter: https://twitter.com/Chris_Broderick those are all fb posts22:48
jcastrogreg-g: yeah, you had to go there.22:48
jcastrosomeday, when ubuntu takes over the world, and we have nothing better to do22:49
jcastrojono and I will fix rock stars' social presence22:49
jcastroit'll be a startup.22:49
jcastroSimilar to Chris Broderick: Lita Ford22:51
dakerhello22:51
jcastroHahah, come on22:51
jcastrodaker: heya!22:52
greg-gjcastro: :)22:55
jcastrojono: in case you are not following along, no response yet.22:59
jcastrogreg-g: no oscon? that's twice I've missed you23:00
greg-gjcastro: we over lapped only one night. I got in around 8pm on Tuesday, and hadn't finished my preso yet and it was on wednesday :)23:02
greg-gjcastro: and yeah, sucks. :/23:02
jonojcastro, heh23:03

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