[01:21] jcastro: when in doubt, blame nigelb? :D [01:22] nigelb: usurping popey's job? [01:22] mhall119: Oh, I don't shut down things. === fenris is now known as Guest72521 === fenris_ is now known as Guest72079 [06:40] good morning all! [12:55] imbrandon_: over here for forums stuff [12:55] ok so for sure they'll need the license? [12:55] WHAT. [12:55] link me up to this plugin [13:01] http://janrain.com/products/ [13:01] "engage" [13:01] is there a link to the actual plugin? [13:02] $100 bux a year, works with openid and lots of others too, its what vb is pointing people too as they have said [13:02] their hands are clean of the whole thing [13:02] the plugin is on github [13:02] but is no good without the service lic [13:03] their web page says nothing though [13:03] it's just a webform [13:03] ok let me dig it all up again , one sec [13:04] http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=263003 [13:04] here it is [13:04] last update last January? [13:04] hah dude [13:04] this is for 5,000 users [13:04] there's like 1.5 million forums accounts [13:05] http://janrain.com/products/engage/engage-pricing/ [13:05] yea, thats another reason i say that we join forces with the fellas from Vanilla forums that broke from VB and migrate, i read about it like 2 hours last night, aparently its a science now [13:06] and can be done without users knowing at all [13:06] no url loss, or user resets etc etc [13:06] what about theming? [13:06] themeing, even. [13:06] its a humoungus task but its fully opensource too [13:06] and yea themeing [13:07] moving forum software isn't even on the table [13:07] I've gone down that road and no one wants to move from vbulletin for some reason [13:07] get me the data or 10 minutes with sabdfl [13:07] heh [13:08] but yea that looks like our optinos at the moment, is pay out the nose, or reinvent the wheel but thats even hard as we need access to canonical lic to even dev [13:09] localy [13:09] i'll dig a little more tonight, but it looks semi bleek even for those in the know ... and maybe a $25k+ pricetag will change their tone aobut migration [13:10] getting a license to dev on isn't a problem [13:10] kk [13:10] i need one of those then please for later today when i have time to circle back around [13:12] * jcastro works that [13:12] thinking about it, i may be able to just rip the openid bits out of the plugin they have on github, i'll work that line tonight [13:13] its gplv3 so nothing shady === rastamouse is now known as nothingspecial [14:58] we hanging on? [14:58] I mean out [15:01] balloons, dpm, jcastro, mhall119 all set? [15:01] yup yup [15:01] yep [15:01] in the dark, in the night [15:02] hah [15:02] setting it up [15:02] balloons, dpm, jcastro, mhall119 https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/297974d72f6147bff0b7d319792f04a82c910274?authuser=0&hl=en-US === JanC_ is now known as JanC [15:33] jcastro: I think it was hit by a pterodactyl! (that seems to be the only logical conclusion) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2181872/Bird-strike-leaves-MASSIVE-hole-United-Airlines-jet-lands-Denver-airport.html [15:34] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatlus [15:34] :) [15:55] imbrandon: didnt vbulletin have a sso mod with openid that they totall gave up on with vb4? [15:57] bkerensa: yes, they said they were not going to develop one , only the community [15:57] but good news its not near as bleek as i thought [15:57] huh [15:57] Jainrain is a Portland company ;) [15:57] Janrain* [15:57] i've been poking at the code in anticipation of a lic to hack with and found a some solid solutions i think [15:58] * bkerensa should use his vbulletin license sometime in the next decade [15:58] ;p [15:58] no you shouldent, you should use vanilla [15:58] :) [15:59] if i get hell for OSX ... lol [16:00] anyhow, it seems that Google is actually gonna pull this one out of the hat for me, i just need to tie all the bits togather from their git ( not the source control ) and hopefully shortly ( compareatively ) we'll be golden [16:00] from the digging this afternoon at leaste [16:01] imbrandon: or phpbb [16:01] :) [16:01] ewww [16:01] i disown you [16:01] better than vbulletin [16:01] ;) [16:01] hehe [16:02] mailman4ever [16:02] (what do you mean that's not forums software?!) [16:02] thats like the choice to chew your arm off to get out the coyotte trap AKA her head on the pillow your arms under when you wake up [16:02] * pleia2 returns to her basement [16:02] not much of one at all [16:02] pleia2: hahahah ^5 [16:38] jono: can you reddit and tweet http://mhall119.com/2012/08/app-developer-qa/ for me? [16:38] or dpm ^^ [16:40] mhall119: taking care of it [16:41] mhall119, done [16:41] thanks [16:41] you might want to get someone else to retweet, I don't use twitter much, and Jono or someone else has got waaay more followers [16:43] mhall119, I can't stay for the Q&A today unfortunately, but good luck with it and let me know how it went tomorrow! [16:45] good bye everyone [16:45] mhall119: PM [16:57] mhall119, done [16:58] thanks jono [17:01] mhall119: RT'ed [17:38] jcastro: is there no way to swap keys on hpcloud? [17:39] swap keys? [17:42] jcastro: nvm [17:52] jono: let's ninja, 5min or so good for you? [17:53] jcastro, sorry, stuck on a call [17:53] just be wrapping in 7 [17:54] jcastro: so were having early talks about a multiuser group lightning talks in Portland... I think I am going to talk Juju unless you wanna fly over :P [17:54] nod [17:54] bkerensa: you've got the flyers right?\ [17:54] umm some [17:54] ;) [17:54] I wasnt taking two boxes home [17:55] I have about 50 or so [17:55] who got the rest? [17:55] philballew took some [17:55] and some other people [17:55] rawk [17:59] yeah, I'm gonna sell them on ebay for a few bucks each. [17:59] :D [18:00] jcastro, two mins [18:04] jcastro, lets go [18:04] YEAH! [18:05] jcastro, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/1bd844a6b379ad037d8706d616d0db18bb798731?authuser=0&hl=en-US [18:45] jono: also: https://plus.google.com/100530892038948253747/posts/42wAifTLmmN [18:46] jcastro, post not found [18:47] ah, shared. [18:50] hah! [18:53] I love it [18:54] got a etherpad going for a event being planned [18:54] the charm? [18:54] someone wrote "Urban Airship has kegs if they host" [18:54] lol [18:54] jcastro: I will talk Juju :D [18:55] \o/ [18:55] bkerensa: so my demo plan from now on [18:55] is to do like "oh let's add SPDY to this webapp" [18:55] then deploy brandon's charm [18:55] then hit F5 on the browser .... BLAM. [18:56] lol [19:01] popey: ok, should I turn off the HP Cloud instances? [19:04] Hey guys [19:05] hi doctormo-lab [19:05] g'day doctormo-lab [19:05] oh hey doctormo-lab !!! [19:07] I just fixed an issue in lab-session-manager, but I'm on a lab machine without credentials. What's the best way of getting my branch somewhere online? [19:07] doctormo-lab: can you ssh anywhere? [19:08] mhall119: I can to here from home. [19:08] Maybe I should just park it on the server here and grab it when at home [19:08] you can push it to home then [19:22] <-- caffeine refill, bbi 10 [19:22] mhall119: hey I saw he filed that bug! [19:22] wrt. the AU lens [19:23] jcastro: me to [19:23] no AU, "Help" lens now [19:42] mhall119: what date will the showdown results be announced? [19:42] I have been asked [19:42] bkerensa: I think it's planned for tomorrow, dpm was trying to get them into the Software Center before hand [19:42] well, trying to get the 3 winners in the software center anyway [19:43] mhall119: Shouldn't most of the contestants be in the software center [19:43] mhall119: Can we perhaps get a heads up for a post on OMG? [19:43] doctormo-lab: ideally, yes [19:43] that way when you announce we can click "Publish" [19:43] doctormo-lab: in reality, we're bottle-necked on getting them reviewed and approved [19:58] mhall119, is it possible to embed the video and IRC widgets into the wiki for tutorial sessions? [19:59] not likely [19:59] I think we have that module disabled or not even installed [19:59] I doubt it [20:00] the wiki doesn't like embedding html [20:00] which is why SUMO is great [20:00] :D [20:00] jono: we can do it on developer.ubuntu.com though [20:00] or ubuntuonair.com [20:01] ooh ubuntuonair will work [20:01] I want to run some Ubuntu Accomplishments tutorial sessions next week [20:01] jono: JoseeAntonioR can help you, he got it going for me [20:01] mhall119, can you help me get these set up? [20:01] see above [20:01] I don't have access to the site [20:01] JoseeAntonioR, hey [20:01] can you help me? [20:01] jcastro might have access [20:02] mhall119: I did a whole bunch of reviewing, is this a secondary process to the inital reviews? [20:03] I think I might [20:03] :D [20:03] but we move onair back and for from popey's server to HP [20:03] doctormo-lab: about half of the initial reviews put the app up for voting, the other half were sent back to the developer for changes [20:03] we can keep it on HP Cloud though if we want more of this, though really what we need to do longterm is do onair.ubuntu.com with proper gear [20:04] some of the ones sent back for changes have been updated by the developer, so the review needs to be done again [20:04] jcastro, can we keep it online [20:05] until I have done these sessions next week? [20:05] sure [20:05] easy peasy, we do need to change dns back though [20:06] dang, popey left. [20:06] jono: what exact day do you start? [20:07] jcastro, I am writing the schedule now [20:07] jcastro, then you should be all set [20:07] well, we need at least 24 hours for DNS to switch over back to the HP servers [20:08] What [20:08] >.< [20:08] so as long as it's not like this week Friday [20:08] 24 hours? [20:08] bkerensa: At least [20:08] DNS propagates much faster than that.... this isnt 1995 [20:08] bkerensa: to make sure most dns servers have updated [20:08] DNS changes take a while [20:08] unless your on a podunk isp [20:08] :D [20:08] right, that doesn't mean I will be dumb and say "give me 10 minutes." [20:08] My linode changes take ~24 hours [20:08] 24 hours. [20:09] Scotty doesn't tell Kirk 15 minutes, he says 8 hours. Then when he does it in 6 he's a legend. [20:09] snap-l: thats because Linode limits their DNS they only update every hour [20:09] jcastro, Tues next week [20:09] easy peasy [20:11] cool, I sent a mail to popey, when he switches it I'll add you an account and mail you the info [20:12] jono: you want IRC instead of where the disqus comments are currently right? [20:15] anyone have the embedded IRC widget info handy? All I can find is mibbit stuff [20:15] or a page where we have it already? [20:15] jcastro, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accomplishments/Classroom [20:16] jcastro: http://webchat.freenode.net/ [20:16] yeah, I would like this to have IRC if possible [20:16] jcastro: http://webchat.freenode.net/ click the little menu in the upper left, and then "add webchat to your website" [20:16] click the icon in the top corner, then "Add webchat to your site" [20:16] jono: which IRC channel will you want them to go to? [20:16] lets do #ubuntu-accomplishments [20:16] #ubuntu-on-air is what I used [20:16] either is fine [20:17] thanks jcastro, mhall119 [20:17] http://15.185.102.243 [20:18] so that? (adjusting the other stuff, but is that the gist?) [20:24] jono: man, this will be awesome [20:25] I've almost got it [20:25] jono: pong [20:26] JoseeAntonioR: hey so TLDR [20:26] he wants to reuse ubuntuonair again [20:26] sure [20:27] ubuntuonair.joseeantonior.com points to that ip, but I'm having troubles with the layout... [20:27] JoseeAntonioR, yep, I want to run some UBuntu Accomplishments tutorial sessions next week [20:28] have you already got the schedule? [20:29] yeah [20:29] I got it [20:29] logo is a bit too big, I'm going to comment it out for now. [20:30] thanks for helping jcastro [20:30] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/accomplishments.png [20:30] how's this? [20:31] pretend that's you instead of leann of course. :) [20:31] seems fine [20:31] jcastro: JoseeAntonioR: can ubuntuonair.com keep pages for past sessions? [20:32] ok so we just need popey to switch DNS, then I'll add jono [20:32] mhall119: yep, it keeps up to 25 revisions [20:32] mhall119: good idea [20:32] is there a way to split off a certain revision as a new page? [20:32] that would be perfect [20:32] pleia2: hey so this gives me an idea [20:32] JoseeAntonioR: browseable? Like, so people can go back and see my video (and possibly irclog)? [20:32] maybe you can just copy the code [20:33] mhall119: nope, I would need to re-post the page [20:33] That sounds awesome jorge, what is it. [20:34] well I am glad you asked [20:34] so I was thinking ... [20:34] ubuntuonair.com -> classroom.ubuntu.com [20:34] and it's basically just a splash page for the existing stuff [20:34] and when we do onair stuff, you just plop the video widget on top, and leave irc/disqus on the bottom [20:35] basically, we have a pretty splash page for all events that's more presentable and usable [20:36] then it takes like, 3 minutes to tailor the splash page for the given event. [20:36] which is fine because all the normal event planning stuff the individual host (in this case jono) is already doing on the wiki [20:37] then you tell people "when your event is done put the next event from the classroom calendar on the splash page." [20:37] * jcastro kills the room [20:41] jono: this basically gives us ustream-like UX. [20:41] jcastro, indeed [20:42] mhall119, can we have a quick call to discuss the app process doc? [20:43] mhall119, actually, lets just discuss it in our meeting tomorrow [20:46] jono: Zohar at Kaltura said he would love to see us using Open Source Video Platform ;) [20:47] bkerensa, I am sure :-) [20:47] if they can provide a better solution we would be happy to use it [20:47] but that solution would need to be free :-) [20:47] jono: all the sessions should now appear on the calendar tab [20:47] thanks JoseeAntonioR! [20:47] jono: Zohar said they could sponsor it [20:47] ;p [20:47] bkerensa: I have a better deal [20:47] charm it. [20:48] and we'll try it [20:48] LOL [20:48] I am shocked Jorge was going to say that [20:48] tell Zohar to charm it [20:48] :-) [20:48] (not you personally, but charms) [20:48] it's just simple how people do things. If I say "try this software" and one is in the archive, and the other is not, which one will you try? [20:49] jcastro: they should make you VP of marketing ;) your pushing Juju harder than anything else Canonical is working on [20:49] ;p [20:49] almost as if it's my job. :p [20:49] jono: would you like AirBot to join you in the sessions? it's a classbot mod [20:49] no seriously, if they charm it I'd love to give it a shot [20:49] JoseeAntonioR, yes please [20:50] ok, let me talk to nhandler and pleia2 and I'll get it running [20:50] and it's nice for them, it gives them AWS, HP Cloud, and each upcoming provider ootb. [20:51] Ill ping Zohar about it [20:51] yeah just say I'm willing to try it [20:51] don't be like "ubuntu is willing to do every web video thing ever on your platform" or something [20:52] jono: tomorrow is fine by me, I've updated the spec page [20:52] well, I updated it yesterday [20:52] "ubuntu community team says our platform is awesome, will use it to broadcast live metal events", and so on [20:53] living metal? [21:04] jcastro: sorry, it's been a busy day at work (lunch now!) [21:04] jcastro: I'd really rather not hijack the classroom name for all ubuntu on air stuff, I think it would get confusing :\ [21:05] and classroom is my baby :) I can't do this on air stuff at all [21:05] what if we just call it all classroom? [21:05] I mean, the onair thing is basically just OpenWeek gone wild. [21:06] oh noes gone wild [21:06] if we're clear about what's IRC-based and what's going to be video-based we may be able to make that work [21:07] probably requires some bot patches so the classroom bot ignores calendar entries for on air (assuming they use the same calendar) [21:08] and I don't really want to do any of this until we're sure what we're want (not thrilled with nhandler spending the time to rewrite the bot for Air and me spending the time setting up the hosting account for it just to have it trashed 2 days later) [21:14] anyway, I'm mostly concerned about people being confused, consumption of irc-based classes is very different than video, there are lots of folks like me who can attend irc ones but can't video ones due to work constraints, so it's important for it to be clear :) [21:17] pleia2: that makes sense [21:17] jcastro, it seems http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/sponsorship/ is not there any more [21:17] what is the new page for that now? [21:18] one sec [21:18] thanks [21:18] my announce is all ready to go [21:18] jono: I believe it's just gone, we point people right to summit, which has all the info on the front page [21:18] mhall119: ^^ right? [21:18] jono: there's no sponsorship explanation page anymore [21:19] jcastro, it isnt on the front page [21:19] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/ [21:19] top right [21:19] jono: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/sponsorship to apply [21:19] aha! [21:19] aha! [21:20] wow that page looks screwed up [21:20] jono: because of the CSS error? [21:20] yup [21:20] jono: already fixed, just need to push it to the actual page [21:20] cjohnston: ^^ [21:20] jcastro: I don't know what used to be on uds.ubuntu.com [21:21] I think they changed it after we finished accepting applicants [21:21] last UDS [21:22] mhall119: you're right [21:34] philballew: around? [21:34] around [21:34] you're a forum mod right? [21:35] no, I am not, but theres some people around who are [21:35] jono: I'm waiting for IS to deploy for the CSS error [21:35] thanks cjohnston [21:35] hmm, thought you were [21:35] np [21:36] do you want me to ping and try to get it done now? [21:36] I wish, If I am ever needed to be one I totally will. [22:23] jono: uds.ubuntu.com/event instead of /travel, but it auto-redirects [22:23] thanks JoseeAntonioR [22:30] jono, jcastro JoseeAntonioR flipped dns to 15.185.102.243 [22:30] <3 [22:30] thanks, popey! [22:30] thanks popey [22:31] np [22:38] jono: I am a total fanboy lamer [22:38] https://twitter.com/castrojo/status/230794434382532608 [22:38] I mean, it was on, and I wanted to tell the guy [22:38] jcastro, hah [22:38] what's sad is I will wait here until he responds [22:38] I think it is always cool to tell people when you dig their work [22:38] haha [22:38] indeed [22:39] I love how he totally is like, asleep [22:39] as if he's bored [22:39] it's bs too, on the blueray he's like "that solo takes everything out of you" and then on the actual concert he's like "yawn ....." [22:39] that's how awesome he is [22:46] jono: you ever meet jason clinton? [22:46] he's an old gnomer [22:46] ends up he works on google wallet, I used it for the first time today [22:48] jcastro, yeah [22:48] ahhh cool [22:48] jcastro: too bad he doesn't use twitter: https://twitter.com/Chris_Broderick those are all fb posts [22:48] greg-g: yeah, you had to go there. [22:49] someday, when ubuntu takes over the world, and we have nothing better to do [22:49] jono and I will fix rock stars' social presence [22:49] it'll be a startup. [22:51] Similar to Chris Broderick: Lita Ford [22:51] hello [22:51] Hahah, come on [22:52] daker: heya! [22:55] jcastro: :) [22:59] jono: in case you are not following along, no response yet. [23:00] greg-g: no oscon? that's twice I've missed you [23:02] jcastro: we over lapped only one night. I got in around 8pm on Tuesday, and hadn't finished my preso yet and it was on wednesday :) [23:02] jcastro: and yeah, sucks. :/ [23:03] jcastro, heh