[08:22] <chrisccoulson> good morning everyone
[08:23] <desrt> chrisccoulson: sup?
[08:23] <chrisccoulson> hey desrt, how are you?
[08:23] <desrt> pretty good
[08:23] <desrt> guadec just wrapping one
[08:23] <desrt> *up
[08:23] <desrt> one last day of hacking
[08:24] <chrisccoulson> excellent! how has it been?
[08:24] <desrt> pretty freaking good
[08:24] <desrt> one of the best ever
[08:48] <Sweetsha1k> moin!
[08:49] <Sweetshark> hmmm, no seb128 today? I would need somebody who would upload 3.6.0~rc4-0ubuntu1. volunteers?
[09:20] <chrisccoulson> Sweetshark, is it urgent? i think i can upload it. i'll have a look later once i've done ffox / tbird if nobody else has done it
[09:26] <Sweetshark> chrisccoulson: nah, its not that urgent, more a matter of honor. I want to release 3.6.0 on quantal in sync with upstream ;)
[13:43] <hggdh> cyphermox: good morning sir, you may want to have a look at bug 1031777 (and sorry)
[13:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1031777 in network-manager "n-m does not show any wireless APs (so no auto connection)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031777
[14:09] <cyphermox> hggdh: if you do sudo iwlist scan; then do the networks appear in the menu?
[14:10] <hggdh> cyphermox: yes, they do (at least now)
[14:11] <cyphermox> ok so it's probably some other kind of scanning bug. I don't think it's directly related to NM; you've probably just been lucky enough for it not to happen until now
[14:12] <cyphermox> I'll take a look, I thought it would have been fixed by a patch we have now in wpasupplicant
[14:12] <hggdh> cyphermox: I now disconnected from the wireless (I am under a wired connection), and all APs vanished, except the one I was using
[14:12] <cyphermox> ok
[14:12] <cyphermox> sounds a huge lot like either wl is again broken, or the patch doesn't do all the right things
[14:12] <hggdh> cyphermox: running iwlist again does not show the other APs
[14:13] <hggdh> yep
[14:13] <cyphermox> if you run it twice I bet it would
[14:13] <cyphermox> actually, perhaps not
[14:13] <cyphermox> the problem is also that iwlist scan is not reliable
[14:13] <hggdh> heh
[14:13] <cyphermox> suod iw dev wlan0 scan would make it work more reliably
[14:14] <cyphermox> but wl will not respond if scan requests happen too frequently
[14:15] <hggdh> still no APs shown
[14:17] <cyphermox> hggdh: would you mind trying to downgrade to the previous version, see if it still behaves the same? there hasn't been changes to wifi code in NM recently; we should probably make sure it's not some other thing, like a new kernel version or new version of the broadcom drivers
[14:18] <hggdh> cyphermox: will try, will see if they still exist in the archives
[14:19] <cyphermox> if not you can get it from launchpad, just a second
[14:21] <cyphermox> hggdh: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/network-manager/0.9.6.0~git201207161259.00297f4-0ubuntu2 ; there are no arch: all packages so you can take them all directly from the relevant architecture, and you want all of the packages except the -dev ones
[14:21] <cyphermox> (unless you installed the -dev ones, of course)
[14:21] <hggdh> cyphermox: doing it now
[14:25] <hggdh> brb
[14:28] <hggdh> cyphermox: another thing I noticed (I do not know for how long it is happening, I am usually wired at home): when I boot & login, the n-m indicator only has 4 entries
[14:28] <hggdh> Enable Networking, Enable wireless, Connection Information, and Edit connections
[14:29] <hggdh> it takes a while for it to have all other entries (like: wired: connected, etc)
[14:44] <dupondje> Could anyone have a look @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/remmina/+bug/980766 ?
[14:44] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 980766 in remmina "Remmina fullscreen jumps between workspaces" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[14:44] <dupondje> and give me an idea where to start looking :)
[14:44] <dupondje> see also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/remmina/+bug/999985
[14:44] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 999985 in remmina "remmina goes full-screen on the wrong monitor" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[14:48] <hggdh> cyphermox: OK. Time passed, and I still do not see anything else on the n-m indicator
[14:48] <cyphermox> with the old version?
[14:48] <hggdh> cyphermox: yes
[14:49] <hggdh> cyphermox: now I cannot even select a hidden network, or a new wireless connection
[14:49] <hggdh> so I guess I am missing something else to be installed
[14:49] <cyphermox> no
[14:49] <cyphermox> unless you mean it's greyed out?
[14:50] <cyphermox> also if you revert NM live without rebooting you might want to restart nm-applet
[14:50] <cyphermox> but for the wireless items not showing up I'd file a bug against linux
[14:53] <cyphermox> hggdh: It would help me a lot too if you could include debug logs from wpasupplicant to that too, but you'll need to edit /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/fi.w1.wpa_supplicant1.service to add -dd to the parameters used to start wpasupplicant
[15:06] <hggdh> cyphermox: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1123544/
[15:06] <hggdh> (with old n-m)
[15:07] <cyphermox> fun
[15:07] <hggdh> heh. So the larger buffer never gets larger?
[15:11] <hggdh> cyphermox: full wpa_sup log for this boot (so far): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1123557/
[15:13] <cyphermox> thanks
[15:13] <cyphermox> so why is this only happening now; the wpasupplicant change happened at least a month ago
[15:14] <cyphermox> for your last upgrade, were there lots of other packages than NM?
[15:22] <hggdh> yes, there were
[15:23] <hggdh> installed on July 09
[15:45] <cyphermox> hggdh: file a bug for it; I can't find any indication it would be an issue in NetworkManager or wpasupplicant, maybe something changed in the driver recently. Wouldn't be the first time they bomb it
[15:49] <cyphermox> hggdh: look what I found: http://pof.eslack.org/2012/05/23/why-broadcom-80211-linux-sta-driver-sucks-and-how-to-fix-it/
[15:50] <cyphermox> I can possibly make magic
[15:53]  * hggdh loves magic
[15:55] <hggdh> cyphermox: but notice the post talks about *not* getting scan results. We are getting them here, but the buffer seems to be too small
[15:56] <hggdh> (ans only increases from 8k to 8k...)
[15:56] <cyphermox> you're not, according to the logs
[15:57] <cyphermox> hggdh: I have a fix; I'll revert that wpasupplicant patch to special case the driver; should make things work slower but work
[16:00] <bjf> running quantal, window decorations just disappeared. compiz-decorator doesn't exist. how do i get them back ?
[16:18] <robru> bjf, log out and log back in?
[16:20] <bjf> robru: well, yes, i'm sure that would work but i'd loose all the connections i have
[16:52] <cyphermox> hggdh: upgrade wpa when you can
[16:53] <hggdh> cyphermox: like as soon as it pops up :-)
[17:17] <cyphermox> hggdh: yeah, should be a matter of minutes
[17:57] <mterry> kenvandine, are more of the online-accounts pkgs uploaded yet?  I've got some cycles to review
[17:59] <kenvandine> mterry, they are in source NEW
[17:59] <kenvandine> mterry gnome-control-center-signon and signon-keyring-extension
[17:59] <mterry> kenvandine, ah...  so it's didrocks's fault.  :)
[18:00] <mterry> huh, never happened to use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+queue before.  nice
[18:01] <mterry> kenvandine, I can review from NEW.  thanks!
[18:01] <kenvandine> mterry, thx!
[18:02] <kenvandine> mterry, tests are disabled, but we'll try to fix that up before they go to main
[18:02] <kenvandine> mardy is going to mock out the keyring stuff to make it easier to run them in the package build
[18:02] <mterry> A single tear falls from my eyes
[18:03] <kenvandine> mterry, i did fix libaccounts-glib and libsignon-glib though
[18:03] <kenvandine> so those tests run now :)
[18:03] <mterry> kenvandine, awesome, you're the best
[18:03] <kenvandine> mterry, no... you are :)
[18:03] <kenvandine> hehe
[18:03] <mterry> buttering me up will not make these MIRs go better  :)
[18:04] <mterry> kenvandine, ah, I see the other issues were fixed too (python3, dh9).  Awesome, I will mark fix committed then
[18:05] <kenvandine> yeah
[18:05] <kenvandine> those two should be good to go
[18:34] <hggdh> cyphermox: it is working \o/
[18:36] <cyphermox> cool
[18:37] <cyphermox> hggdh: I'll have something for you to test later, depending on whether you're seeing delays in getting connected on boot or on suspend/resume
[18:38] <hggdh> cyphermox: I do not do suspend resume (does not work with my laptop), but it looked like I was connected quite fast
[18:38] <cyphermox> ok, then maybe we can just pass on that
[18:39] <cyphermox> but I'd like to switch the broadcom driver to use a different API; might work better and avoid those cases where you don't see the networks in nm-applet