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scientesahh so unity-2d was also dropped caused in qt5 qtquick is moving to opengl ES 2.002:48
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SpamapSdpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 26005 package 'libsdl-net1.2:i386': mixed non-coinstallable and coinstallable package instances present03:49
SpamapSwhile dist-upgrading precise->quantal03:50
ScottKMultiarch is fun.03:51
SpamapSYeah03:52
SpamapSnot really sure how to work around it03:52
SpamapSdpkg seems basically dead in the water03:53
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SpamapSlike, dpkg -l doesn't even work03:54
* SpamapS does something unholy and just removes the bad entry there03:57
slangasekSpamapS: bug #1015567, I'm afraid04:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1015567 in dpkg (Ubuntu Quantal) "upgrade failed: mixed non-coinstallable and coinstallable package instances present" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101556704:03
SpamapSslangasek: thanks, was just about to head off looking into whether or not it was a bug/known04:03
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infinitySpamapS: It's known, but no one's had a chance to look into a "sane" migration/fix yet.04:44
infinity(I also still contend that the check is a complete joke, since it doesn't trigger in other cases that could be equally broken, so maybe just removing it would be fine)04:45
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mitya57ScottK: hi, do you have any plans to merge our python-defaults with debian?10:13
mitya57there were some important dh_python2 fixes in 2.7.3-1 and 2.7.3-210:13
xnoxmpt: in quantal, in the system menu i have: "Log Out...; Suspend; Hibernate; Restart...; Switch Off..."10:43
* xnox manually enabled hibernate10:43
xnoxmpt: how come suspend/hibernate do not have '...' at the end?10:43
cjwatsonDon't they act immediately rather than producing a dialog?10:45
mptxnox, what cjwatson said10:47
xnoxcjwatson: mpt: ok.10:47
cjwatsonhttp://developer.gnome.org/hig-book/3.4/menus-design.html.en#menu-item-type-command10:47
mpt"…" means "you're going to need to provide more input to complete the primary function of this command"10:48
xnox3.4 hig10:48
cjwatsonAlthough there is an argument from the HIG text there that Log Out and Switch Off shouldn't have … either, since they only present a confirmation dialog10:48
cjwatsonI don't know if that wrinkle is somehow controversial10:48
xnoxoh... goodies. need to read it =)10:48
cjwatson3.4 was just the current link; AFAIK the ellipsisation advice has been there forever10:49
mptYeah, we diverge from the Gnome HIG in that we make no distinction between a confirmation alert and other types of input10:51
mpt(For example, the confirmation alert might have a checkbox in it like "Install updates before switching off", or might offer multiple choices like "Restart" vs. "Restart Into Windows")10:52
cjwatsonFor reference, do we have documentation of our HIG divergences anywhere?10:54
mptI think the Gnome HIG has the "ignore confirmation alerts" guideline only because the classic Mac OS guidelines did, but even OS X doesn't10:55
mptcjwatson, no, that would be priority #2 where priority #1 is to have our own guidelines to diff between :-)10:56
cjwatsonHeh10:56
cjwatsonI know how it is10:56
bdrungbdmurray: the sponsoring overview is not updated any more. do you know why?11:03
xnoxpoint of interest 3.6 libreoffice spash is weird. i liked previous one better...11:20
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alexblighWhat is the best way to make a script run very early on (i.e. as the first thing upstart does) after remounting / read-write and before any udev/hotplug events are processed11:34
smoserhm.. ok. i'm out of ideas. anyone see what is wrong here12:12
smoserhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/choose-mirror/+bug/103169612:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1031696 in choose-mirror (Ubuntu) "incorrectly claims "no support for specified release"" [Undecided,New]12:12
smoseralexbligh, i dont think you can accomplish that.12:18
smoserudev starts on virtual-filesystems, which i do not believe depends on mounted / rw12:19
smoseralthough when i say that it doesn'tmake much sense. sosomething must block processing of hotplug/udev events until after rw12:19
gesersmoser: in the second screenshot (that one from busybox) the grep isn't searching in the output from wget but in the file "Release" from the filesystem (see Release in the grep call)12:21
smosergeser, well, he did both12:21
smoserfirst one he just grepped from the file12:21
smosersecond he did the wget12:22
smoseroh.12:22
smoserno12:22
smoseryou're right.12:22
alexblighsmoser, so if I do "start on starting udev and started virtual-filesystems" then I am going to create some form of dependency loop?12:24
alexblighudev is "start on virtual-filesystems"12:25
smoseri dont know what would happen.12:25
alexblighHmmm, in this case I can guarantee the only filesystem is the root filesystem which is initramfs and already about. mountall is just going to remount that r/w (I presume it's mountall which does the remount r/w)12:26
alexblighI don't think I can use "stopped mountall" as presumably mountall is only stopped after it has emitted all the events.12:28
alexbligh(incl. the one that starts udev)12:28
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jodhalexbligh: lets continue this on #upstart.13:09
bdrungtumbleweed: how about a u-d-t release?13:17
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hrwstarting daemons...13:28
hrwone day I will find time to learn what is ubuntu way of having daemons installed and not started on boot even after package update13:29
ogra_stgraber, heh, the lightdm/gdm mail on the ltsp list is funny ... so he did all that work but still needs the same user locally ... somone should tell him that this is the actual readon for ldm to exist :)13:31
ogra_*reason13:31
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directhexhrw, tl;dr: an entry in /etc/default/packagename along the lines of "ENABLED=0", and an init script which bails out unless ENABLED=113:36
directhexe.g. see dnsmasq13:36
hrwdirecthex: thanks13:37
jodhhrw: it's covered in a generic fashion in the Upstart Cookbook too. See http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#pre-start and http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#post-stop.13:40
stgraberogra_: haven't read too closely, but it sounds like he needs scotty's libpam-ssh and libnss-ssh13:40
ogra_stgraber, right13:40
ogra_i just find it funny how people invest a ton of work without talking to anyone before they start and then end up in the same situation all others did before them13:41
jocarterogra_: it's things like that that cause me to grind my teeth and then having the dentist telling me to stop stressing so much13:42
tumbleweedbdrung: as usual, I'd like to do a pass through the bugtracker first13:42
ogra_jocarter, who are *you* ?13:43
ogra_*g*13:43
jocarterI'm the artist previously known as highvoltage13:43
bdrungtumbleweed: then go ahead. :p13:43
ogra_is that a permanent change ?13:43
jocarterogra_: I think so. I tried changing away from highvoltage before but there was a lot of resistance13:44
jocarter*badish*13:44
ogra_lol13:44
jamespagedoko_, just noticed the java-common package is still installing the architecture-less symlinks for openjdk-6 -  we should probably drop those13:47
jamespage(I can do that if you agree)13:48
xnoxjocarter: i will be calling you jo forever now.13:57
* xnox expects you to respond to 'jo:' pings ;-)13:57
NCommanderinfinity: ping, do you remember what APT bugs I had to look at?14:00
ogra_NCommander, just look at all of them :P14:01
ogra_(and fix them indeed)14:01
* NCommander glares at ogra14:03
* xnox lines up apt bugs in alphabetical order for NCommander (while winking at ogra_)14:18
NCommanderxnox: [A-Z][a-z]? Or are you using an extended alphabet which has more letters :-)14:18
xnoxNCommander: есть же и другие алфавиты...14:19
NCommanderHow very cryillic of you :-)14:19
NCommander*cyrillic14:20
xnox;(14:20
xnox;)14:20
* xnox typing fail14:20
* NCommander still remembers the days of fidonet and spam on DOS could be identified by blocks in Fidomail14:20
* NCommander suddenly feels old as hell14:21
* NCommander <3 ProcommPlus for DOS14:22
* xnox never used fidonet.....14:22
killownWhat ubuntu team just did with the last update? it messed around with kubuntu-desktop http://bpaste.net/show/8uqye6UT9JCKGHcVgDuS/ thanks for wasting my time with this14:23
cjwatsonthat's a bit overly aggressive14:23
killowni386 devel libs is useless and I can't compile wine, other great thing I would thank for too14:23
cjwatsonI expect whoever made the change in question would need a significantly more complete report than that, including e.g. which Ubuntu release you're using14:23
xnoxkillown: if I was you, I'd wait for the mirrors to catch up.14:23
NCommanderThat looks like aptitude14:23
cjwatsonbut cut the sarcasm, please14:24
cjwatsonit doesn't help anyone14:24
bdmurraybdrung: the sponsoring report is a dholbach thing14:26
bdrungbdmurray: he is on holiday and told me that you are able to deploy changes14:31
bdmurraybdrung: I only have read access to the files there...14:33
shadeslayerDaviey: ping14:34
bdrungbdmurray: do you know who has access to it?14:36
bdmurraybdrung: yes, dholbach14:36
janimoNCommander, you're not old, you were precocious14:36
shadeslayerDaviey: it seems you dropped smbfs with this merge : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cifs-utils/2:5.4-1ubuntu114:37
shadeslayerDaviey: was it intentional? what replaces smbfs in that case14:37
bdrungbdmurray: is the sponsoring script run on his private machine?14:37
shadeslayerDaviey: Debian still has smbfs apparently : http://packages.debian.org/source/unstable/cifs-utils14:38
NCommanderjanimo: somewhere, I have a box of token ring adapters, and a copy of OpenVMS for Itanium :-)14:41
* NCommander has had notions of wiring up a DECnet network at home14:41
janimoNCommander, ok then, s/precocious/crazy/14:41
NCommander:-)14:42
janimoI am older than you and only know those from history books14:42
janimoby which I mean IT books printed in the early 90s14:42
NCommanderIf it weren't for the fact everything here is on VoIP, I'd stick a modem in my itanium system and wire up uucp14:43
NCommander(dial-up is suprisingly useful in some of the places I go to)14:43
ScottKpostfix supports delivery via uucp.14:47
NCommanderScottK: curious if it will handle a bangpath email14:51
* NCommander notes Thunderbird (used to) explode when you fed it one14:51
lamontNCommander: that got turned off by default some time a go, iirc15:00
lamontAS IT SHOULD15:01
NCommanderyou don't like have addresses like ..!someisp!canonical!lamont15:01
lamontNCommander: not since the late 80s15:04
lamontand the lasthop was !hpda!lamont then15:04
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* NCommander remembers HP-UX and feels slightly sick :-P15:05
apwcan anyone remind me where the 'update only to the next LTS' flag is for a server15:13
shadeslayerapw: just use do-release-upgrade -d15:14
lamontapw: d/15:14
shadeslayerand it'll upgrade to precise15:14
lamontbah15:14
lamont /etc/update-manager/meta-release15:15
apwlamont, ahh /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades thanks for the right area15:15
lamontapw: pastefail15:15
lamontsorry15:16
apwlamont, heh :)15:16
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ogra_2706 ogra      20   0 2172m 746m  21m R  102  4.7   5938:06 compiz15:43
ogra_hmpf15:43
ogra_(thats an idling machine)15:43
ppisatiogra_: don't oppose the progress! :)15:46
ogra_haha15:47
jamespagedoko, do java-access-bridge and java-atk-wrapper do the same thing?16:02
slangasekcjwatson: where do things sit with bug #926340? seems glatzor hasn't replied to your last proposal16:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 926340 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu Precise) "aptd crashed with UnicodeDecodeError in _set_error(): 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 9: ordinal not in range(128)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92634016:10
cjwatsonslangasek: as you say - I was waiting for him to respond16:12
cjwatsonlooked for him on IRC this morning actually but he wasn't around16:12
slangasekIME he's not very irc-catchable16:12
cjwatsonI'll mail him16:13
slangasekok16:13
xnoxcjwatson: python3-debian, any patch-queue review updates?16:15
cjwatsonnot yet, sorry, I meant to take care of that in my holiday last week but was stymied by lack of internet16:15
xnoxcjwatson: ah ok. there are two patches send to you in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=625509 for python2 compat16:16
ubottuDebian bug 625509 in python-debian "python-debian: please port to Py3k" [Normal,Open]16:16
xnoxcjwatson: ok. no rush =)16:17
cjwatsonyeah I saw16:17
cjwatsonright, off homenow, but at least irc is running in screen now16:17
slangasekxnox: so do you know anything about this autofs use of /etc/nsswitch.conf?16:17
cjwatsonnot convinced about the subprocess one, I want to take a different approach there16:17
cjwatson(I'd rather use universal_newlines and make it work, than give up)16:17
slangasekxnox: I can't find any relevant entry points in libnss_nis, so I'm not sure what this has to do with nsswitch at all16:17
xnoxslangasek: no, not really. it's just that the bug is filed against older autofs5 vs newer autofs package16:18
xnoxand I want to test what's going on. i remember poking that code while doing the merge and fixing other bugs.16:18
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* slangasek nods16:20
infinityslangasek: The parsing code that's throwing the error is fairly easily greppable in the autofs5 source.16:20
infinityslangasek: My assumption is that it's vomiting over the [WHATEVER=something] syntax16:21
infinity(Oh, that assumption would be based on me not continuing to read the bug comments where adding a line "fixes" it?)16:23
xnoxi am confused as to what is the bug reported here.16:28
xnoxnsswitch.conf is valid syntax16:29
slangasekyes16:29
xnoxauto.master seems to configured correctly and it does work for me.16:29
slangaseknsswitch.conf is valid syntax, and autofs has its own wrong parser for nsswitch.conf16:29
xnoxwhat's different in the reported setup that breaks?16:29
xnoxhm... cause autofs expects spaces around [ ] ?16:29
slangasekdunno16:30
xnoxslangasek: ok. thanks for that comment. now i am back to dmraid.16:39
slangasekbdmurray: what put bug #488696 on your radar?16:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 488696 in autofs5 (Ubuntu Precise) "syntax error in nsswitch config near [ syntax error ]" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48869616:41
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jdstrandslangasek: for security support, icedtea-6-plugin should be demoted and icedtea-7-plugin promoted, correct?16:46
jdstrandmeh16:47
jdstrandslangasek: nm16:47
jdstrandsbeattie: ^16:47
bdmurrayslangasek: the release task nominations16:47
jdstrandsbeattie: it looks like this is what icedtea-web is doing now, and thought I'd fix the component-mismatches if you tell me so16:48
jamespagejdstrand, I'd +1 that - lines up with the Java 6 -> 7 transition16:48
jamespage(and it was me that just switched the 'default')16:48
slangasekbdmurray: ah, ok16:49
jdstrandjamespage: ack16:51
sbeattiejdstrand: yeah, that's correct.16:52
jdstrandjamespage, sbeattie: thanks, I'll adjust16:53
jamespagejdstrand, marvellous - thanks16:53
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jdstrand(done)16:54
xnoxslangasek: both mdadm and dmraid have support for isms17:00
xnoxs/isms/imsm/, the intel raid17:00
xnoxand both try to assemble them in udev/initramfs17:01
smoser@pilot in17:01
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xnoxi will disable intel and ddf in mdadm for now, and will think about how to migrate from one to another...17:01
xnoxsince there is no way to know.17:02
xnoxto know what the user wants.17:02
xnoxthe device names and symlinks generated are different17:02
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bdmurraymterry: do you have any test case ideas for bug 818760?  I've uploaded an SRU for precise for it.17:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 818760 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "update-manager crashed with timeout in readline(): timed out" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81876017:07
mterrybdmurray, no...  I couldn't reproduce myself.  I just looked at the stacktrace and used that to fix the bug17:08
dokojamespage, java-access-bridge is obsolete now17:12
jamespagedoko, thats what I thought looking at it; as it FTBFS I'll file a removal bug report17:13
dokoyes, sounds fine17:13
slangasekxnox: ok, cool17:14
tjaalton@pilot out, meh17:16
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tjaaltonbah17:16
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shadeslayerI found this in germinates output : ? Unknown desktop-common package: fonts-freefont17:30
shadeslayershouldn't that be fonts-freefont-ttf ?17:31
shadeslayercjwatson: ^ bzr log says you changed this :)17:32
infinityshadeslayer: Yeah, looks like a source/binary thinko.  I'll fix.17:32
shadeslayerinfinity: awesome17:33
infinityshadeslayer: Committed.17:34
shadeslayerthanks17:34
shadeslayernow if someone could just tell me why smbfs was dropped ....17:34
infinityshadeslayer: In edgy...?17:35
* shadeslayer is yet to find a reason for that17:35
shadeslayerinfinity: quantal17:35
shadeslayerapparently Daviey did a merge and it disappeared17:35
infinityOh, the log shows it being dropped in edgy. :P17:35
shadeslayerwhut17:35
shadeslayerinfinity: it comes from cifs-utils17:35
shadeslayer!info smbfs precise17:35
ubottusmbfs (source: cifs-utils): Common Internet File System utilities - compatibility package. In component main, is optional. Version 2:5.1-1ubuntu1 (precise), package size 3 kB, installed size 47 kB17:35
shadeslayer!info smbfs quantal17:35
ubottusmbfs (source: cifs-utils): Common Internet File System utilities - compatibility package. In component main, is optional. Version 2:5.1-1ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 3 kB, installed size 47 kB17:35
shadeslayerdafuq17:36
shadeslayerahh17:36
shadeslayeryes, as you can see, current cifs-utils is 2:5.5 whereas ubottu reports 2:5.117:36
shadeslayer!info cifs-utils17:37
ubottucifs-utils (source: cifs-utils): Common Internet File System utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 2:5.1-1ubuntu1 (precise), package size 64 kB, installed size 176 kB17:37
infinityshadeslayer: So, I see both smbfs and cifs-utils seeded...17:37
shadeslayerinfinity: but smbfs doesn't exist ... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cifs-utils/2:5.5-1ubuntu117:37
infinityshadeslayer: Oh, you weren't talking about seeds anymore.  Check.17:37
shadeslayernope17:37
shadeslayerinfinity: I'm talking about completely missing binary packages in the archive17:38
infinityhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=62084717:39
ubottuDebian bug 620847 in smbfs "Keep shipping smbfs package with smbfs wrappers?" [Normal,Fixed]17:39
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infinityshadeslayer: I think the answer here is "transition to using cifs-utils, and stop relying on smbmount"17:40
shadeslayergot it17:40
shadeslayerI guess I saw the transitional package on packages.debian.org17:41
* shadeslayer fixes his seeds17:41
infinityshadeslayer: Fixed the samba-server seed in quantal too.17:45
shadeslayeryay17:46
shadeslayerinfinity: uh ... wait, I don't understand, samba-server seed? 0.o17:47
infinityshadeslayer: For the "samba-server" Task.  It installed smbfs, which used to pull in cifs-utils transitively.17:47
infinityshadeslayer: Which obviously doesn't work anymore. :P17:48
shadeslayerahh ok17:48
shadeslayerinfinity: though, I'm curious as to where the samba-server task resides17:48
infinityapt-get install samba-server^17:49
infinity(or use tasksel)17:49
shadeslayeruhh17:50
shadeslayer!find samba-server quantal17:50
ubottuPackage/file samba-server does not exist in quantal17:50
infinityIt's a task, not a package.17:50
* shadeslayer looks17:51
infinityapt-cache show samba | grep ^Task17:51
shadeslayerahhhh ok17:51
ogra_hggdh, https://launchpad.net/~linaro-maintainers/+archive/overlay/+packages?field.name_filter=linaro-boot-utils&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=precise17:53
ogra_hggdh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1123801/17:55
ogra_hggdh, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/uboot/17:57
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SpamapSslangasek: looking at the libbonobo SRU.. does this mean all the reverse deps have to be rebuilt, or just *tested* to build with the new one?19:23
SpamapS$ apt-cache rdepends libbonobo2-0|wc -l19:23
SpamapS4519:23
stgraberSpamapS: just tested to build19:23
SpamapSok19:23
slangasekSpamapS: just tested, yes19:24
slangasekstokachu: ^^ have libbonobo revdeps been build-tested now?19:24
mhall119can someone take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1031886?19:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1031886 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] unity-lens-help" [Undecided,New]19:27
mhall119at UDS-Q, sabdfl showed interest in a help lens19:27
mhall119it should already have a package19:28
slangasekSpamapS: hold off on nis in -proposed please19:32
SpamapSslangasek: ok. Is it broken-er than before?19:33
slangasekSpamapS: there's at least one regression, bug #99329119:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 993291 in nis (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] package nis 3.17-32ubuntu1.2 failed to install/upgrade: invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/nis not found." [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99329119:33
slangasekand I think there may be another one, which is what I was looking for when stumbling upon that one19:33
SpamapSslangasek: should we mark bug 569757 verification-failed ?19:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 569757 in nis (Ubuntu Oneiric) "NIS upstart dependency broken for lucid" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56975719:34
slangasekSpamapS: just doing so now, but wanted to make sure I got you directly to avoid any race conditions :)19:35
SpamapSslangasek: consider me blocked19:36
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slangasekSpamapS: ok, further analysis tells me that publishing the nis SRU for lucid should be safe: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nis/+bug/569757/comments/7519:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 569757 in nis (Ubuntu Oneiric) "NIS upstart dependency broken for lucid" [High,Fix committed]19:56
slangasekSpamapS: btw, the tags on that bug ended up being 'verification-done verification-done-lucid verification-needed'... what's that supposed to mean?19:56
slangasekI've seen similar tag sets applied to other SRUs, but I'm not aware that the report tools do anything useful with such a combo, and AFAIK it's not documented on the SRU page19:57
stgraberslangasek: I implemented verification-done-<SERIES> into sru-report a few weeks ago19:58
slangasekah19:58
slangasekthen shouldn't it be *just* verification-done-<SERIES>, without the verification-done tag?19:58
stgraberyes19:58
stgraberusing both was the old way of doing it as sru-report wouldn't mark it green19:59
stgraberso in the past most people would mark verification-done + verification-done-SERIES, then when accepted, the SRU team member would reset verification-done until all series were verified19:59
stgraberwhich was rather confusing, so for bugs like that, the "right" way of doing it now should be to only use the -SERIES tag19:59
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smoser@pilot out20:36
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slangasekwhat happened to firefox that's causing pdfs to now load in-browser in some horribly slow reader?20:57
slangasekis this just me?20:57
elmoslangasek: installing the adobe pdf reader can do that20:58
slangaseknot installed20:58
mdeslaurslangasek: firefox now has a built-in pdf viewer20:58
mdeslaurslangasek: à la chrome20:59
bkerensaslangasek: we integrated reading20:59
bkerensa:D20:59
slangasekmdeslaur: how do I turn it off?20:59
slangasekthis is not a feature20:59
bkerensaslangasek: you cannot atm20:59
slangasekargh20:59
bkerensahttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75267621:00
ubottuMozilla bug 752676 in PDF Viewer "Control pdf.js and Other PDF Plugins using Application Preferences" [Normal,Verified: fixed]21:00
bkerensa:D21:00
mdeslaurdpkg -P firefox?21:00
slangasekmdeslaur: and use what instead for the browsing?21:00
mdeslaurslangasek: w3m-img! :P21:01
slangasekwell, pdfjs.disabled lets me disable it entirely; still doesn't let me view pdfs directly in evince, I have to save them to file now :/21:01
slangasekmdeslaur: away with you, troll21:01
mdeslaurlol21:01
mdeslaurthe retro-grouches I work with have started to rub off on me :)21:02
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SpamapSslangasek: re the tags on the nis SRU.. IIRC there was also a Fix Committed task for another release, so verification-done + verification-needed == purple on the SRU report21:31
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cleptohello, i am writing an app with quickly-pygtk-glade and i have some questions...i want to show a dialog and get the return id...21:51
cleptoi used the run() method21:52
cleptobut then i closed the dialog and try to reopen it21:52
cleptoand i got an emtpy window21:52
ogra_clepto, see /topic ... #ubuntu-app-devel might be a better place to ask this21:52
cleptothanks!21:52
enapupeHi, I'm searching for some information on how ubuntu handle multimedia keys on my keyboard, can anyone show me some directions?22:01
slangasekenapupe: /usr/share/doc/udev/README.keymap.txt.gz22:04
enapupewow, now i'm 1 step ahead, ty very much slangasek !22:06
enapupenow, I was abble to find this: scan code: 0xC00CD   key code: playpause  // I would like to reproduce the effect of pressing this key, is this possible?22:09
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slangasekenapupe: there's no good way to emulate keypresses that I know of22:18
enapupeslangasek: xdotool seems to work just fine, but it wont understand the multimedia keys22:18
enapupexdotool key Alt+F4 // this works fine, prompts me to close the terminal22:19
enapupeAFAIK my keyboard works as 2 eventX instances, 1 for regular keys and another to multimedia22:20
slangasekyes, the problem with emulating multimedia keys is that many of them are mapped outside of the range of keycodes that can be represented in X - so they're actually bridged to the desktop via a dbus service22:20
enapupeis thing something on the driver level?22:21
slangasekno22:22
slangasekit might be gnome-settings-daemon intercepting these directly?22:22
enapupesudo /lib/udev/keymap -i input/event522:23
enapupescan code: 0xC00EA   key code: volumedown22:23
enapupe^C22:23
enapupethis behavior answers the question?22:23
NCommanderWho usually handles migration of a package that's aged in proposed and is verification-done?22:42
stgrabersru team22:43
stgraberNCommander: on Wednesday it's SpamapS22:43
NCommanderSpamapS: are you around? I'd like to see highbank migrate, its verification-done and in proposed22:44
* NCommander fishes for a bug22:44
NCommanderSpamapS: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/100401822:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1004018 in libdebian-installer (Ubuntu Precise) "Add highbank images" [High,Fix committed]22:44
SpamapSNCommander: infinity had asked me to leave those to him.22:45
SpamapSinfinity: ^^ ?22:45
NCommanderSpamapS: ah22:45
SpamapSNCommander: but yes, they appear to be ready22:45
mdeslaurSpamapS: any chance you can push LP: #953922?22:45
NCommanderSpamapS: great, I'll nag infinity then.22:45
mdeslaurSpamapS: is that one not appearing on your list, or do you guys just have a back log?22:45
SpamapSmdeslaur: its there. I stopped 2 short of it. ;)22:46
SpamapStotem and remmina are in front of it22:46
mdeslaurSpamapS: ah, cool. thanks...I wasn't sure if I did something wrong or not.22:46
SpamapSmdeslaur: no, looks good. If its small I can do a quick queue jump..22:47
SpamapSmdeslaur: accepted :)22:54
mdeslaurSpamapS: awesome, thanks!22:55
enapupeslangasek: found a way! echoing the keything to \dev\input\event522:55
slangasekah, interesting22:55
enapupedon't ask me wtf is this keything, the weirdest string ever seen22:56
enapupei don't know what kind of encoding it is22:56
scientesbackslashes FTW22:57
enapupe:T22:58
enapupescientes: would you believe if I say that i wrote corretly before, then deleted and typed wrong?22:58
enapupemaybe is my IRC client font which makes the slashes uggly ;P22:59

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