[00:32] <pleia2> oh that's just sad
[02:38] <akk> Wow, Toastmasters' website now requires silverlight. The depth of their cluelessness staggers me.
[03:11] <jledbetter> oh gracious
[03:13] <bkerensa> akk: should lobby then to not use it
[03:13] <bkerensa> :D
[03:13] <bkerensa> Mozilla has a lobby group of volunteers who contact websites and tell them they need to do this and that to make firefox work good
[03:13] <bkerensa> :D
[03:14] <akk> There are people (mostly Apple users, and me now) griping on the linkedin group, but I don't think HQ listens to much.
[03:14] <akk> Oh, cool, maybe I should file a mozilla bug to get them on it. They used to have a keyword for that,
[03:14] <akk> like 10 years ago when it was actually common to see sites that only worked in IE
[03:14] <akk> but I can't remember the keyword.
[03:14] <bkerensa> I need to find out what that group is
[03:15] <bkerensa> its really active surprisingly and has a lot of volunteers who reach out and do it
[03:15] <akk> If you find out, bkerensa, let me know and I'll email them or file a bug or whatever the appropriate thing is.
[03:15] <bkerensa> kk
[03:16] <akk> TM are kind of MS whores anyway -- their only recent manual revisions were mostly to add "using Microsoft powerpoint" into several projects that said "using visual aids" in earlier versions.
[03:16] <akk> Despite lots of people having already complained to them that PPT isn't the only presentation tool around.
[03:34] <akk> Yay, another Linux/Firefox user on the thread -- how there are as many of us as Apple people, mwahaha.
[04:40] <atto> Hi. I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 and I downloaded the ISO for 12.04. I tried burning it with Brasero at 8x and just as it finished, it ejected and then an error popped up. Should I burn the ISO again at a higher speed, or... ?
[04:41] <atto> (I tried to boot up my laptop using the burned CD but it wouldn't work)
[04:50] <toddc> safe bet it is bad download did you check the md5?
[04:51] <toddc> always burn at lowest speed you can
[04:51] <atto> Yes, the MD5 is the same, and I burned at the lowest speed.
[04:52] <atto> I'm going to try burning the ISO onto a DVD-R because my laptop has always been finicky when it came to CD-R's.
[04:52] <toddc> what was the error--ok
[04:53] <atto> I can't remember but I'll try with a DVD instead, goodnight.
[20:25] <bkerensa> pleia2: when Canonical ships to you do they have DHL e-mail your mailing list?
[20:25] <bkerensa> DHL keeps sending notifications of a shipment to our mailing list
[20:26] <pleia2> bkerensa: nope
[20:26] <bkerensa> huh
[20:55] <erichammond> unexpected email shipping notifications are often spam/phishing
[20:55] <akk> I get phishes like that every day or two.
[20:56] <bkerensa> huh?
[20:56] <bkerensa> ok
[20:56] <bkerensa> but I looked at the e-mail and all the links and content were legit
[20:56] <bkerensa> and it didnt have attachments and the source looked clean
[20:56] <bkerensa> =/
[20:58] <akk> If I'm expecting a package, I look for the tracking number, then type it into google.
[20:58] <akk> Otherwise I go to the site that sold it and click on the tracking link from there.
[20:58] <akk> *paste it into google, not actually type it
[20:59] <erichammond> bkerensa: I usually find a single URL in the email that has bogus host.
[20:59] <pleia2> oh right, I didn't make the connection, all the ubuntu lists I admin are being spammed by fake DHL spam
[21:00] <pleia2> I thought you meant it actually was a real communication from Canonical shipping you something
[21:00] <bkerensa> pleia2: ahh ok maybe it was just coincidence I got packages from DHL when those e-mails came
[21:00] <bkerensa> I was wondering
[21:00] <bkerensa> >.<