[00:13] <chris4585> got on then had to do some work
[00:14] <chris4585> lol @ earlier
[02:02] <wrst> chris4585: :)
[02:09] <chris4585> wrst, did vychune get everything sorted out? lol
[02:09] <wrst> i don't know i was having one of them days at work so wasn't able to spend as much time as i wanted
[02:10] <wrst> i would suggest people really get their passwords straight !
[03:03] <chris4585> ah, well I'm glad I tried to help, I thought I was butting into you helping
[03:50] <chris4585> I didn't feel like I was doing a great job because I wasn't too clear, I figured vychune could sort it out if pointed in the right direction
[10:52] <wrst> chris4585: yep I mean google has all the answers to that problem :)
[10:53] <chris4585> pretty much
[12:05] <wrst> the great google always does it seems
[12:50] <chris4585> indeed, well time for sleep, later wrst
[17:47] <xTEMPLARx> ALL RIGHT
[17:47] <xTEMPLARx> straighten up in here
[17:48] <xTEMPLARx> Mom's comin' over and this place is a pig sty
[17:54] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: so you decide to blow in for your yearly look-see? :P
[17:54] <xTEMPLARx> it was on my schedule
[17:54] <wrst> about time!
[17:54] <xTEMPLARx> its been so long since I've authed, nickserv forgot my registration :((
[17:54] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[17:54] <wrst> finally someone below me alphabetically in the nick list
[17:55] <wrst> and i though all you had resigned to were random facebook post xTEMPLARx
[17:55] <xTEMPLARx> if there is someone out there using facebook to only wait on my sporadic posts, they'd abandon facebook as a dead website :D
[17:56] <wrst> i post about 3 times a year, once a quarter and i usually miss a quarter
[18:02] <xTEMPLARx> 'tis good to skip a quarter here and there
[18:03] <xTEMPLARx> how's that little one treating you, wrst?
[18:03] <xTEMPLARx> sleeping soundly thru the night yet?
[18:03] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: has been for  a while actually
[18:03] <wrst> its very nice
[18:04] <wrst> but she has to be in the bed with us is the only drawback but for a good night's sleep whatever
[18:14] <wrst> oh Unit193 you are back... :P
[18:14] <Unit193> Yep, lost USB support again, really ticks me off...
[18:15] <wrst> usb wifi dongly thingy?
[18:18] <xTEMPx> Whee
[18:21] <wrst> wb xTEMPLARx or xTEMPx what???
[18:21] <wrst> there are two??? why??? oh the humanity!!
[18:21] <xTEMPx> It's a conspiracy, I think
[18:21] <xTEMPx> <--- on the iPad in a meeting
[18:21] <Unit193> USB ethernet thingy.
[18:23] <wrst> oh hmm Unit193 i thought those worked fairly well... and I have to ask the question pci ethernet cards.. well they practically give them away
[18:27] <Unit193> The device isn't the problem, the computer lost support for USB devices.  I already have/had a USB card, but I may have a PCI and that'd be worth more I'd think in this case, but I was planning on swapping out that computer for a newer one (but still old)
[18:28]  * wrst passes the hat for the Unit193 computer fund
[18:31] <Unit193> Heh. :P
[18:36]  * xTEMPx looks around cautiously...
[18:36] <xTEMPx>  /quit
[18:39] <Unit193> Nono, that looks a bit off, pull the router network cable!
[18:48] <xTEMPLARx> lol
[18:48] <xTEMPLARx> i typed /quit
[18:48] <xTEMPLARx> and it didn't work
[18:48] <xTEMPLARx> crazy iOS
[18:51] <Unit193> You had a space.
[18:51] <xTEMPLARx> hrmmm
[18:51] <xTEMPLARx> you may be onto something there
[18:52] <xTEMPLARx> let's try again
[18:52] <xTEMPLARx> yup
[18:52] <xTEMPLARx> good eye
[18:53] <Unit193> Seen it many a time, bad part is when it is  /msg nickserv identify unit193 littleponiesarescary
[18:53] <xTEMPLARx> rofl
[18:53] <xTEMPLARx> indeed :D
[19:56] <xTEMPLARx> I need to get re-cloaked
[20:00] <Unit193> xTEMPLARx: You a Ubuntu member?  If not, you'll want to ask in #freenode rather than -irc.
[20:00] <xTEMPLARx> I am
[20:00] <xTEMPLARx> a member that is
[20:01] <Unit193> Coolio.
[20:03] <xTEMPLARx> haha didn't notice you were in there too ;)
[20:04] <Unit193> I'm in quite a few channels. :P
[20:08]  * Unit193 watches for xTEMPLARx to join #freenode... :D
[20:09] <xTEMPLARx> lol
[20:10] <xTEMPLARx> don't make me dive back down below periscope depth
[20:10] <Unit193> Na, that's pretty basic and simple: "Howdy, I'd like an unaffiliated cloak please" ;)
[20:11] <xTEMPLARx> i did a /stats p to find some helpful people :D
[20:12] <netritious> sup xTEMPLARx! long time no see
[20:12] <xTEMPLARx> Heya sir!  How are those DW's treating ya?
[20:12] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: does this mean you are going to stick around for a while or just disappear again? :P
[20:12] <xTEMPLARx> wrst:  you just never know!
[20:12] <xTEMPLARx> i'm a gypsy spirit
[20:12] <xTEMPLARx> or else just easily distracted by life
[20:13] <xTEMPLARx> one of the two
[20:13] <wrst> well xTEMPLARx any new musical projects ?
[20:13] <xTEMPLARx> not really.  We've had a few graduate out of our youth band, so I"m back on bass where I belong
[20:13] <Unit193> xTEMPLARx: Great!
[20:13] <netritious> xTEMPLARx: pretty good! they sound awesome
[20:15] <xTEMPLARx> netritious:  good to hear :D  But then, they're DWs, they oughta sound good ;)
[20:16] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: isn't bass for guitar players who have fat fingers? :P
[20:17] <xTEMPLARx> LONG fingers... its LONG fingers
[20:17] <netritious> true xTEMPLARx
[20:17] <wrst> well i have to try to play guitar with fat short fingers xTEMPLARx i think i am a bass player in training
[20:17] <netritious> hello wrst, Unit193
[20:17] <xTEMPLARx> if you don't look like you're throwin' gang signs while you're playing bass, you're not playing properly :D
[20:17] <wrst> howdy netritious
[20:17] <wrst> ha ha xTEMPLARx
[20:18] <xTEMPLARx> bass is one of the few instruments I can just play without thinking about it too much
[20:18] <xTEMPLARx> but I suppose i need more practice across the board
[20:18] <xTEMPLARx> I've been hanging out on TDPRI here lately, so I'm trying my hand at building a telecaster
[20:19] <Unit193> Howdy netritious.
[20:27] <netritious> What has everyone been up to lately?
[20:28] <netritious> xTEMPLARx: building a telecaster? As in, you can buy a kit to make your own?
[20:29] <wrst> cool xTEMPLARx i have thought about building a tele also
[20:29] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: we will have to excuse netritious he is into that heavy "devil" music :D
[20:29] <netritious> haha \m/
[20:29] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: ever had a G&L?
[20:30] <netritious> my guitarist plays Washburn ;)
[20:31] <netritious> I've played one wrst...didn't like the way the frets...they kind of protruded outwards off the neck
[20:31] <wrst> netritious: you can buy bodies, necks etc from ebay all day long or you can buy the blanks or the actual bodies just depends on how much work you want to do
[20:31] <netritious> ah cool
[20:32] <wrst> hmm interesting netritious i have considered one i have a nice little mexican strat that's actually a decent guitar but it is how shall i say not the manliest color of blue
[20:33] <netritious> lol
[20:33] <wrst> i have considered going for a tele, or refinishing that one
[20:34] <netritious> I like strat style guitars. I have a Dean, Washburn Extended Cutaway, and a Samick
[20:34] <wrst> they are just a little thin feeling for my taste
[20:34] <netritious> strats?
[20:35] <wrst> yes but i prefer D size and jumbo acoustics and only play electric when no one else is around to keep me from it :)
[20:35] <xTEMPLARx> netritious:  no kits involved... unless you consider raw lumber and power tools a kit :D
[20:35] <netritious> nice
[20:35] <wrst> but netritious i prefer how a les paul style guitar feels but i like the tone of a tele better
[20:36] <xTEMPLARx> tele's are pretty raw
[20:36] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: really you are going to start out with a blank and go for it?
[20:36] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: yep
[20:36] <xTEMPLARx> if by blank, you mean boards
[20:36] <xTEMPLARx> lol
[20:36] <wrst> oh so you are really going all the way
[20:36] <xTEMPLARx> my first neck may actually be in log form at the moment
[20:36] <wrst> what are you using?
[20:36] <wrst> ash body/ maple neck?
[20:36] <xTEMPLARx> probably gonna stick with pine for the first couple of bodies till I get my system down and stop making mistakes
[20:36] <xTEMPLARx> first neck will likely be walnut
[20:37] <wrst> oh I love me some walnut
[20:37] <xTEMPLARx> i have access to a log and a sawmill and a kiln
[20:37] <xTEMPLARx> so
[20:37] <wrst> that's nice
[20:37] <wrst> i have coveted soem walnut taylors i've seen before they may sound like poo but look great
[20:37] <xTEMPLARx> I'm inheriting all of my dad's workshop and tools
[20:37] <xTEMPLARx> so I've been going over and taking mental inventory
[20:38] <xTEMPLARx> and so far, he is only missing one router bit of having everything I need
[20:38] <xTEMPLARx> minus wood that is
[20:38] <wrst> cool xTEMPLARx you will have to teach a class
[20:38] <xTEMPLARx> but he probably has that too
[20:38] <xTEMPLARx> just gotta dig it all out
[20:38] <xTEMPLARx> the sawmill, walnut log and kiln are his too
[20:38] <netritious> wow that's a pretty nice inheritence
[20:38] <xTEMPLARx> the kiln is on the side of the workshop
[20:39] <xTEMPLARx> net:  yeah my dad's in his 70s and has been collecting tools his entire life
[20:39] <xTEMPLARx> so on top of the woodworking equipment, there are also plenty of other tools for automotive, welding, etc
[20:39] <netritious> sounds like my dad, just my dad is all about engines and stuff
[20:39] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: i have looked at some acoustice guitar kits and that's just beyond my skill by a long shot
[20:39] <xTEMPLARx> wrst:  acoustics are definitely a bit outside of my comfort zone
[20:40] <xTEMPLARx> I feel better about my chances with bolt-neck electrics
[20:40] <xTEMPLARx> but hopefully that'll change with experience
[20:40] <wrst> if i did an acoustic it would be a bolt neck
[20:40] <xTEMPLARx> my acoustic I play now is a bolt neck
[20:40] <wrst> what type xTEMPLARx?
[20:40] <xTEMPLARx> I'll link it
[20:41] <xTEMPLARx> http://www.univox.org/pics/guitars/auditorium.jpg
[20:41] <xTEMPLARx> its a smallish size, but once I got it set up nicely it projects well
[20:41] <xTEMPLARx> no electronics though
[20:42] <wrst> but you have a woodworking shope you can add that
[20:42] <xTEMPLARx> dunno if I would even try on this guitar
[20:42] <wrst> i have a breedlove that has a bolt on neck... i think
[20:42] <xTEMPLARx> it doesn't have a standard bridge on it
[20:42] <xTEMPLARx> its adjustable like a les paul's
[20:43] <xTEMPLARx> has two thumbscrews to raise the bridge up and down
[20:43] <xTEMPLARx> i.e., no under-bridge pickup for me :(
[20:43] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: look at an iBeam pickup they are pretty sweet
[20:43] <xTEMPLARx> might be able to find something that just attaches under the bridge to the wood inside the guitar
[20:44] <xTEMPLARx> yeah just like that
[20:44] <xTEMPLARx> you played one with this installed yet?
[20:44] <xTEMPLARx> one thing I love about those kits are the small dials just inside the soundhole
[20:45] <xTEMPLARx> keeps it clean-looking
[20:45] <xTEMPLARx> I wonder how it would fair with a soundhole cover, though
[20:45] <xTEMPLARx> hrm
[20:45] <Juzzy> http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120801/WILLIAMSON01/120801010/2275/RSS05?nclick_check=1
[20:46] <xTEMPLARx> and its quite affordable... hmmm
[20:46] <xTEMPLARx> I tried to go to Chick Fil A today, and had to give it up because I wouldnt' have had food by the time my lunch hour was over
[20:46] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: yes i had a Huss and Dalton DM with one, of coruse that guitar is pretty amazing by itself but that pickup was great, only issue was tendency to feedback but a guitar like that will probably have some issues with anything
[20:47] <xTEMPLARx> wrst:  I hear ya... any guitar that resonates like it should would have that problem.  Funny, they claim it resists feedback... :D  OH well.  Guess it'd still be necessary to figure out a way to mount a soundhole cover
[20:48] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: for this guitar i thought it was fine but there was a tendency to feedback because you are amplifying not so much the string vibrations like an under saddle piezo but you are actually getting the body vibrating more
[20:49] <netritious> you guys like neck through or bolt on?
[20:49] <wrst> netritious:  i have only played one neck through bass, it was awesome!
[20:49] <xTEMPLARx> neck throughs and set-necks have their place
[20:50] <xTEMPLARx> but a well-made bolt-on has no issues inherent to the neck joint
[20:50] <netritious> yeah my washburn is neck through, though the neck is on the thin side for my tastes.
[20:50] <wrst> my only concern on a neck through long term would be that there's not really any adjustment?
[20:50] <xTEMPLARx> my 12-string 335 copy is a bolt-neck, and it sustains and projects for days
[20:50] <xTEMPLARx> wrst:  you still have a truss rod in a set neck or neck-through
[20:50] <netritious> there's still a truss rod (spelling?) in mine at least
[20:51] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: but with a say dovetail neck joint you eventually have the need to reset the neck will that ever be an issue in a neck through?
[20:51] <xTEMPLARx> and I've read that a truss rod really isn't necessary on a properly-built instrument, provided you're not a touring musician
[20:52] <netritious> my brother set the action and adjusted mine...I don't know what to do with a truss rod myself
[20:52] <xTEMPLARx> wrst:  It would depend on the instrument and how it's been cared for if it NEEDS a re-set
[20:52] <netritious> "righty tighty, lefty lucy" is all I know about it lol
[20:52] <xTEMPLARx> usually they need a reset if the joint's broken loose or has been damaged somehow
[20:52] <xTEMPLARx> but at least its an option!
[20:52] <xTEMPLARx> with a neck-thru, not so much
[20:52] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: if you have a 1940's martin, it has needed a neck reset to keep it playable
[20:53] <xTEMPLARx> well that's an acoustic
[20:53] <wrst> just from the pull of the strings over the years
[20:53] <xTEMPLARx> you're attaching a baseball bat to the side of a thin wooden box
[20:53] <xTEMPLARx> I'm thinking in terms of electrics
[20:53] <xTEMPLARx> no such thing as a neck-thru acoustic, to my knowledge :D
[20:53] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: well me too a bass has a lot of string tension
[20:53] <xTEMPLARx> have you seen the acoustic jazz boxes that have the floating neck?
[20:53] <wrst> i would think the same principles would apply?
[20:54] <wrst> yes
[20:54] <xTEMPLARx> detachable for travel
[20:54] <xTEMPLARx> very nice looking
[20:54]  * wrst isn't good enough to play jazz
[20:54] <xTEMPLARx> lol
[20:54] <xTEMPLARx> <---- same applies to this guy
[20:54] <wrst> jazz uses all those chords with funny names
[20:54]  * wrst is diminished by jazz chords
[20:54] <xTEMPLARx> I call them "i mash my fingers this way, or this way, or sometimes THIS way"
[20:55] <wrst> i need 8 fingers and them to be attached to 3 hands to play jazz chords
[20:55] <xTEMPLARx> no matter how you scrunch your fingers on the fretboard, there's a name for that chord
[20:55] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[20:55] <wrst> exactly xTEMPLARx
[20:55] <wrst> netritious: who needs ubuntu we can talk music! ;)
[20:55] <xTEMPLARx> lol
[20:56] <xTEMPLARx> second wave of the storm's rolling into knoxville
[20:56] <xTEMPLARx> get to carry my bass out to the car in the rain... thankfully its in a hard case
[20:56] <xTEMPLARx> although I wouldn't accuse it of being watertight
[20:57] <wrst> no but they make a case for that i'm sure
[20:57] <xTEMPLARx> I'm sure they do, but mine's all vintage n stuff, and I don't have the money a replacement :D
[20:57] <xTEMPLARx> maybe if I can build a stinkin guitar or twelve, I could afford to buy one :D
[20:58] <xTEMPLARx> welp, time to pack up and head out
[20:58] <xTEMPLARx> chat ye later :)
[20:58] <wrst> later xTEMPLARx, try to come back in say another 5 years or so!
[20:58] <xTEMPLARx> lol will do ;)
[20:58] <xTEMPLARx> nite guys
[20:58] <wrst> netritious: i don't know what to think about these bums like xTEMPLARx do you? come in here chat up and then leave for years
[21:01] <netritious> lol
[21:01] <netritious> I don't mind
[21:02] <wrst> netritious: wish we could do something loco wise with ubuntu and its benefits to musicians
[21:02] <wrst> guess not so much ubuntu as opensource
[21:03] <netritious> well drum something up wrst! :D
[21:03] <wrst> i don't know what it will be but the thought just came in my head, but my head is an empty place so thoughts are free to hang around for a while
[21:03] <wrst> have you ever used ardour?
[21:03] <netritious> lol
[21:03] <netritious> no sure haven't wrst
[21:03] <netritious> brb
[21:04] <netritious> ^using how it should be uses btw
[21:04] <netritious> *used
[21:16] <netritious> back
[21:16] <Genphlux> Howdy
[21:17] <netritious> Howdy Genphlux...what's shakin'
[21:17] <wrst> hello Genphlux
[21:17] <Genphlux> Nada.  Worki
[21:17] <Genphlux> n
[21:18] <netritious> Genphlux: have you ever used DEFT? I know you're into BackTrack is why I ask
[21:19] <Genphlux> The forensics liveCD?
[21:19] <netritious> yeah
[21:19] <Genphlux> Nah I haven't
[21:19] <netritious> has some hack tools to
[21:21] <Genphlux> Nah I guess I should check it out
[21:24] <netritious> Just something else to add to the arsenal
[21:24] <netritious> I just found out about it today.
[21:25] <netritious> btw, did you get to see the demo of unlocking hotel doors?
[21:28] <Genphlux> No, it was crazy busy.  It was definitely the talk of the con though
[21:28] <Genphlux> brb
[21:30] <vychune> o/
[21:30] <netritious> hey there vychune
[21:30] <vychune> hey guys i have a question?
[21:30] <netritious> no
[21:30] <vychune> hey netritious
[21:30] <netritious> lol, just ask man
[21:30] <vychune> lol
[21:31] <vychune> does number ten (10) on this page look right to you? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Quickbooks%20Enterprise%20Data%20Server
[21:33] <netritious> What's wrong with it?
[21:34] <binarymutant> vychune, it's skipable
[21:34] <vychune>   * Add daemon.* -/var/log/qbdbfilemon.log
[21:34] <vychune> that line looked wrong
[21:35] <vychune> binarymutant: i would but it's for a client lol
[21:35] <vychune> or do i just put the touch line?
[21:35] <binarymutant> I wouldn't put it into the syslogs
[21:35] <binarymutant> brb
[21:36] <netritious> vychune: I haven't had a lot of success manipulating syslog configurations
[21:36] <vychune> or then
[21:37] <vychune> s/or/ok
[21:38] <netritious> albeit I was trying to setup a remote syslog server so that had it's own set of complexities, that and ubuntu somewhere along the way changed from syslogd to rsyslog
[21:38] <vychune> oh lol
[21:38] <netritious> whose instructions though are for 10.04, and rsyslog was already the default by then
[21:39] <netritious> personally I would add it and test
[21:39] <netritious> s/whose/those/
[21:40] <vychune> ok then
[21:41] <netritious> I guess you figured out how to reset the passwd? Didn't mean to leave you hanging yesterday, just was on the phone for what seemed like forever
[21:41] <vychune> syslog was a new file so i'll try rsyslog and yeah that wasnt the problem lol
[21:41] <vychune> the user should have been fredremmers
[21:42] <vychune> is was ferdremmers
[21:42] <vychune> s/it/is
[21:42] <netritious> oh lol...a misspelled user name, ouch
[21:42] <vychune> yeah pretty much lol'
[21:43] <netritious> brb in 10
[21:44] <vychune> dang ok
[21:57] <binarymutant> how do I get nvidia-glx to work on debian?
[21:58] <vychune> gtg guys fedex is calling
[21:58] <vychune> o/
[21:58] <binarymutant> later
[21:58] <vychune> THANKS SO MUCH!!!!
[21:59] <netritious> back
[22:38] <wrst> wb netritious :)
[22:40] <binarymutant> finally
[23:29] <xTEMPx> Whee!
[23:29] <xTEMPx> Works on the iPhone too
[23:46] <netritious> thx wrst
[23:46] <netritious> binarymutant: did you get it figured out?
[23:46] <binarymutant> netritious, there was an update that fixed my problem
[23:49] <netritious> awesome. are you using sid or squeeze repos?
[23:50] <binarymutant> sid
[23:51] <binarymutant> and for some reason I've been put onto an rt&pae kernel instead of vanilla
[23:51] <netritious> rt?
[23:51] <binarymutant> real time
[23:51] <netritious> huh. how much ram does the system have?
[23:51] <binarymutant> like 2 gb
[23:51] <binarymutant> not enough for pae
[23:52] <netritious> exactly. that's weird.
[23:52] <binarymutant> ikr
[23:52] <netritious> I guess that's what you get when you use sid? :D
[23:52] <binarymutant> lol maybe
[23:58] <binarymutant> it's good to know I have the same nvidia problem on debian and ubuntu as I did with arch http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=611452