| cpatrick08 | I saw that kde 4.9 was released for precise via ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports and was wondering when it would be available for quantal | 01:00 |
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| Tm_T | yay package conflicts | 03:42 |
| Tm_T | http://www.tm-travolta.net/traces/1204-kde-490-apt.txt | 03:45 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: amd64? | 04:02 |
| Tm_T | yes | 04:03 |
| ScottK | Archive skew. Wait and try again. | 04:03 |
| Tm_T | aww, still? | 04:03 |
| ScottK | Could be something failed and needs a retry. | 04:04 |
| * ScottK hasn't been watching the PPA. | 04:04 | |
| Tm_T | ScottK: what about that mess I had with nepomuk? | 04:04 |
| ScottK | Dunno. | 04:04 |
| Tm_T | have to look the build status when I get to the office -> | 04:05 |
| ScottK | It looks like it's built now, so not sure. | 04:07 |
| * ScottK needs to sleep. | 04:07 | |
| Tm_T | hmh, more funneehs | 04:54 |
| kio_http | I can see kde 4.9 packages in the kubuntu backports ppa, is it safe to use these as there is no anouncement on kubuntu.org? | 05:23 |
| Tm_T | kio_http: it's quite possible not all packages are there yet, or final test is not done yet | 05:24 |
| Tm_T | s/done/successfully done/ | 05:25 |
| kubotu | Tm_T meant: "kio_http: it's quite possible not all packages are there yet, or final test is not successfully done yet" | 05:25 |
| Tm_T | aww | 05:25 |
| kio_http | I see there is a kubottu here now | 05:28 |
| dpm | Riddell, around? | 07:57 |
| Riddell | hi dpm | 08:10 |
| dpm | hey :) you pinged me a while ago about disabling langpacks for Quantal, and I directed you to pitti. I see he applied the changes to langpack-o-matic already. Could you please send an announcement to the ubuntu-translators list explaining the change? | 08:12 |
| Riddell | can do | 08:13 |
| dpm | Thanks. If you could find some time for it today it'd be great, as we'd then disable the KDE templates in Launchpad and open Quantal translations straight away | 08:14 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: did you work it out? | 08:16 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: well, I can sort the package issues locally, but that wouldn't help others | 08:17 |
| Tm_T | so I'm wondering if these are something that should be fixed on packaging | 08:17 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: it's not clear from what you pasted what you told apt to do | 08:19 |
| Tm_T | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (wajig daily-upgrade in short) | 08:19 |
| Riddell | mm | 08:20 |
| Tm_T | added more to the bottom of the file | 08:22 |
| Tm_T | brb, gotta buy lunch | 08:22 |
| Tm_T | chomp | 08:37 |
| allee | Tm_T: here finished right now a precise 4.8->4.9 upgrade. The upgrade was well, no conflicts or missing pkgs, or outdated versions. | 08:39 |
| allee | Congrats! Now a logout/in ;-) | 08:40 |
| Riddell | allee: i386 or amd64? | 08:41 |
| allee | Riddell: amd64 | 08:41 |
| Tm_T | so it could be just me, after installing plasma-active stuff to Kubuntu | 08:42 |
| allee | ah, that reminds me to try active with quantal because quantal, for first time handles, my laptop touchscreen perfectly | 09:01 |
| Riddell | allee: I've no idea what state active is in, I took a random snapshot but it hasn't had a release so I don't know if it works | 09:08 |
| Riddell | time to rebuild large parts of 4.9 then | 09:14 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: do-release-upgrade -d | 09:43 |
| shadeslayer | upgrade hanged when it tried to restart atd | 09:43 |
| shadeslayer | might also be because of some weird stuff that the hosting provider installs from it's own repos | 09:44 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 11:23 |
| apachelogger | "I cant stack 2 panels on top of eachother to use as a quicklaunchbar" | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | you know | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | I always was annoyed by plasma not giving containments/panels a depth, now there is even a use case for that | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 11:43 |
| Riddell | you were annoyed at something without a use case? | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | well, I was annoyed about plasma upon breaking itself in version upgrades suddenly had overlapping panels | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | and the first time that happend it took me like a week to figure out why my tray was having oddly | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | (one panel was slightly higher than the other) | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | if plasma had just very basic 3d simulations that would not have happend to be begin with | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | SteveRiley: what kfn needs is a "hottest topics last week" feature ^^ | 11:48 |
| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Status: http://goo.gl/ZGGJP | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | apachelogger: SRU plymouth logo & SRU pgst & fix ipod support | ||
| shadeslayer | the weather is just horrible here | 12:02 |
| shadeslayer | kubotu: weather Gurgaon | 12:02 |
| shadeslayer | 0.o | 12:02 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ^ did you disable that? | 12:03 |
| apol_ | JontheEchidna: ping | 12:06 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: weather Vienna, AT | 12:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: apparently | 12:06 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: help weather | 12:06 |
| kubotu | no help for topic weather | 12:06 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 12:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: might just have been removed | 12:08 |
| apachelogger | I don't see it in the blacklist anyway | 12:08 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: really stupid question, but I can't seem to make KMessageWidget resize dynamically | 12:34 |
| shadeslayer | I've added a vertical layout to my ui file and call KMessageWidget::setLayout on it | 12:35 |
| shadeslayer | it being my KMW ofcourse | 12:35 |
| shadeslayer | relevant code snippet : http://paste.kde.org/527114/ | 12:36 |
| echidnaman | apol_: pong | 12:44 |
| === echidnaman is now known as jtechidna | ||
| === apol_ is now known as apol | ||
| apol | jtechidna: here? | 12:45 |
| apol | xD | 12:45 |
| apol | damn | 12:45 |
| apol | you have a lot of nicks | 12:45 |
| jtechidna | ;) | 12:45 |
| jtechidna | that was my third fallback nick | 12:46 |
| jtechidna | the office must have lost internet connection last night | 12:46 |
| apol | jtechidna: I'm thinking of moving the actions in MuonMainWindow to the QApt::Backend | 12:46 |
| apol | jtechidna: does that sound sane to you? | 12:46 |
| jtechidna | the actions? | 12:47 |
| apol | jtechidna: MuonMainWindow::setupActions() | 12:48 |
| jtechidna | I'd like to keep LibQApt Qt only | 12:48 |
| apol | ah | 12:49 |
| apol | ergh | 12:49 |
| apol | true | 12:49 |
| apol | the backend is in libqapt | 12:50 |
| * apol thinks again... | 12:50 | |
| apol | or tries too... >.< | 12:50 |
| jtechidna | perhaps there could be a separate KDE integration library that provides common UI bits, like presenting errors, warnings, etc | 12:51 |
| apol | jtechidna: I'll create an "apt-ify mainwindow class", that does these things | 12:52 |
| apol | jtechidna: and see how far I can go | 12:52 |
| jtechidna | ok | 12:52 |
| jtechidna | apol: btw, I've started to port muon-installer to the resources stuff. I think I've been careful not to break anything on the QML side, but please let me know if I did | 12:52 |
| apol | jtechidna: have you changed anything in the libmuon part? | 12:53 |
| jtechidna | a few things | 12:53 |
| apol | uh | 12:53 |
| apol | i see | 12:53 |
| apol | ok | 12:53 |
| apol | I'll try | 12:53 |
| apol | jtechidna: and yes, thanks for the s/application/resource | 12:54 |
| jtechidna | Qt Creator is great for that, but not so much for refactoring QML code | 12:55 |
| jtechidna | brb, coffee | 12:55 |
| apol | :P | 12:56 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: If atd restart is hanging I seriously doubt it's the upgrade's fault. | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: thought so ... like I said, there were some weird packages installed | 13:22 |
| shadeslayer | saw a couple of bug reports about atd hanging while restarting on the upgrade though | 13:22 |
| shadeslayer | then again, dpkg --configure -a and apt-get -f install to the rescue ;) | 13:23 |
| ScottK | The respun kdelibs for 4.8.5 is out, so I'm working on building those. | 13:54 |
| Riddell | UDS sponsorship application time, visit sunny Denmark! | 13:58 |
| * Riddell nudges jtechidna, debfx, yofel_,ScottK, Mamarok, shadeslayer, apachelogger into applying | 13:59 | |
| shadeslayer | already on that page ;) | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | why it always is at such inconvenient times is beyond me -.- | 13:59 |
| jtechidna | I probably won't be able to make any of the fall UDS's due to uni until I'm out of uni :( | 13:59 |
| Riddell | valorie, SteveRiley, afiestas_, apol: do consider it | 13:59 |
| Riddell | agateau: you know you want to | 14:00 |
| ScottK | Quintasan too. | 14:00 |
| apol | Riddell: when is it? | 14:00 |
| shadeslayer | jtechidna: muwhahahaha ... I no more have that issue \o/ | 14:00 |
| jtechidna | shadeslayer: lucky sun of a gun :P | 14:00 |
| agateau | Riddell: I do! | 14:00 |
| afiestas_ | Riddell: already done | 14:00 |
| shadeslayer | ;) | 14:00 |
| Riddell | jussi: not too far for you to come? | 14:00 |
| jtechidna | two more years until I have my 4-year degree... | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer | ofcourse, I'm still waiting for my last sem results, and hopefully I should pass all of it | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer | wat | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer | jtechidna: how old are you ? 0.o | 14:01 |
| jtechidna | shadeslayer: turning 21 later this month | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer | you're .... younger than me? :O | 14:01 |
| jtechidna | lol | 14:02 |
| agateau | Riddell: where does one ask for sponsoring? | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/sponsorship/ | 14:02 |
| jtechidna | shadeslayer: I started contributing back in '08 when I was 17 | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | likewise | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | started in October-November 2008 I think | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | contributions were probably 6 more months down the line | 14:04 |
| jtechidna | basically I saw this new KDE4 thing, and hopped on to #kubuntu IRC to give some suggestions :P | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 14:04 |
| jtechidna | wandered in to #kubuntu-devel, and one thing led to another... | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer | jtechidna: for me it was windows crashing on me and a kubuntu CD lying around to recover my data | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok pointed me to this channel after she got fed up of my questions :P | 14:04 |
| jtechidna | lol | 14:05 |
| jtechidna | I remember. You were very... enthusiastic ;-) | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer | ;) | 14:05 |
| ScottK | He didn't even let exams distract him back then. | 14:06 |
| jtechidna | heh | 14:06 |
| agateau | Riddell: requested sponsorship. How long until I know if it is accepted? | 14:07 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: I have a problem: the application page is hard-coded to my old mail address, although that is not used anymore, and is not in launchapad anymore either | 14:07 |
| Riddell | rbelem: you too | 14:07 |
| Riddell | agateau: august 17th I think | 14:07 |
| jtechidna | agateau: they'll email you with ack/nack a few weeks afterwards | 14:07 |
| agateau | jtechidna: ok, thanks | 14:07 |
| jtechidna | then you'll email/call up the travel agency they give you | 14:08 |
| jtechidna | and they'll set you up | 14:08 |
| jtechidna | you just have to be careful or they'll schedule your flight to leave during the closing ceremonies :P | 14:08 |
| agateau | I see :) | 14:09 |
| jtechidna | (speaking from experience) | 14:09 |
| jtechidna | back on the oneiric UDS my flight got delayed due to that Volcano | 14:09 |
| shadeslayer | Ej-whatever-the-hell-it's-name-was | 14:11 |
| jtechidna | luckily it was only delayed on the way there :P | 14:11 |
| jtechidna | not fun being stuck in a foreign country | 14:11 |
| Mamarok | Eyjafjallajökull | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | jtechidna: lol | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | jtechidna: someone from akademy got stuck in poland for like 2 days (weekend) | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | can't recall who though | 14:13 |
| jtechidna | ouch | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | unless you have business to attend that is not too terrible IMHO, can do some sight seeing and stuff | 14:14 |
| jtechidna | yeah | 14:14 |
| jtechidna | man, I have final exams for the spring semester May 9-16. hopefully they don't schedule UDS during those :s | 14:15 |
| jtechidna | but given their track record, they probably will | 14:16 |
| jtechidna | things were fine until they changed up the release schedule to release on 10.10.10 :P | 14:16 |
| * apachelogger waves fist | 14:17 | |
| agateau | shadeslayer: pauseError->setLayout(...) that looks wrong: it should be d->ui.verticalLayout->addWidget(pauseError) | 14:17 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: yeah, did that as well, still no luck | 14:17 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: how does it look? | 14:18 |
| Mamarok | what do they mean by "Would you be willing to participate as member of the crew?"? | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: http://i.imgur.com/cCim2.png | 14:18 |
| agateau | Mamarok: man cameras and stuff like that | 14:18 |
| Mamarok | as in crew organizing uds-r? | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: http://paste.kde.org/527156 < ui file | 14:19 |
| jtechidna | The crew was responsible for changing signs around the meeting venue | 14:19 |
| jtechidna | I did it and got a nice t-shirt | 14:19 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: mmm, can you push the code to bzr +junk or kde scratch? | 14:20 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 14:20 |
| shadeslayer | give me a couple of minutes | 14:20 |
| agateau | actually, one thing you need to do is to add the KMW once | 14:20 |
| agateau | at startup, create the widget, just don't show it | 14:20 |
| agateau | when you get an error, set the error message and call animatedShow() | 14:20 |
| shadeslayer | hmm .. sounds sane, I'll just add it to the d-pointer ... | 14:21 |
| agateau | otherwise you will create a KMW everytime there is an error | 14:21 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 14:21 |
| agateau | not sure it is going to fix your problem, but it's better anyway | 14:21 |
| csslayer | ScottK: hi, I notice there is some discussion about kubuntu and ibus.. while I would recommend kubuntu to switch to fcitx, I'm the main developer of fcitx, I already send a mail to maillist, but seems no kubuntu-dev reply on it yet. do you have any concern on this? | 14:23 |
| rbelem | Riddell, yup :-) | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 14:23 |
| ScottK | csslayer: Hello. I had intended to reply, but lost track. | 14:23 |
| ScottK | (I actually thought I had) | 14:24 |
| * apachelogger points out that it seems one needs to switch input technology every 3 years or so | 14:24 | |
| * rbelem is hacking zatab now | 14:24 | |
| ScottK | Since we're part of the Ubuntu project, it's generally better for us to use the same things they are unless there's a good reason. | 14:24 |
| ScottK | csslayer: What are the advantages of fcitx over ibus? | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: that reminds me | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | yofel_: did you ask zareason about shippery? | 14:25 |
| csslayer | ScottK: well, as I already stated in the mail, quite a lot better kde integration. | 14:25 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i will be two days in home, before switching to samsung | 14:25 |
| ScottK | Right. | 14:25 |
| csslayer | ScottK: and gtk-free. | 14:25 |
| ScottK | We have two problems: | 14:26 |
| ScottK | 1. Get precise working. | 14:26 |
| ScottK | 2. Make it really good in quantal. | 14:26 |
| ScottK | For problem #1 it's got to be ibus. | 14:26 |
| * rbelem hugs apachelogger | 14:26 | |
| ScottK | So I think we need to go through the ibus stuff, get it working and then look into alternatives. | 14:26 |
| ScottK | gtk free is definitely nice. | 14:26 |
| freeflying | ScottK: +1 for adopting fcitx in kubuntu | 14:26 |
| * apachelogger rehuggles the rbelem | 14:26 | |
| rbelem | :-) | 14:27 |
| ScottK | freeflying or csslayer : Are there packages for it? | 14:27 |
| freeflying | ScottK: yes, and well maintained in Debian | 14:27 |
| ScottK | OK. That's good news. | 14:27 |
| freeflying | ScottK: also csslayer is the upstreamer maintainer | 14:27 |
| csslayer | ScottK: yes, we have quite well communication with debian packager. | 14:27 |
| ScottK | That's all good. | 14:28 |
| freeflying | ScottK: he did offer his hands to help make it better in kubuntu | 14:28 |
| csslayer | ScottK: not to say I'm kimpanl's maintainer, too :) | 14:28 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ seems worth investigating. | 14:28 |
| ScottK | :-) | 14:28 |
| ScottK | That's also important. | 14:28 |
| freeflying | Riddell: I strongly second csslayer's proposal | 14:28 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: ^^^ you around? | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: interesting, as soon as I allocate memory to KMW it shows up | 14:29 |
| ScottK | He was looking into quantal while I was focused on precise. | 14:29 |
| * freeflying switched to use fcitx 2 yrs back | 14:29 | |
| Riddell | I do keep hearing good things about fcitx | 14:29 |
| * rbelem goes back to zatab | 14:29 | |
| agateau | shadeslayer: oh right | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 14:30 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: call hide() on it after creating it | 14:30 |
| freeflying | Riddell: or we may bring it to UDS, and get csslayer there? :P | 14:30 |
| * apachelogger found an agateau | 14:30 | |
| agateau | apachelogger: where did you find that? | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | agateau: if you get a chance please run gwenview with video through gdb, when video locks up get a thread apply all bt sample | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | actually | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | more like 4 samples or so | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | I suspect there is a deadlock in the frame delivery, just not sure why as the code is only locked in one function | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | all bit mysterious | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | also I cannot replicate the issue on vlc master | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: repo is kde:scratch/garg/ktp-call-ui , branch is holdCalls | 14:32 |
| * agateau clones | 14:33 | |
| * apachelogger doesn't get anything done because he is hopping from one construction site to another -.- | 14:33 | |
| ScottK | freeflying: I think we should fix it for quantal and not wait for UDS. | 14:33 |
| ScottK | If we're going to make major technology changes, the release right after LTS is the best place. | 14:33 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Based on what I'm hearing it seems reasonable to me to take fcitx for a spin and see how it goes for beta 1. | 14:34 |
| agateau | apachelogger: what is this "sample" argument? | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | agateau: nah, I meant get the output of that, then continue, get another output, continue, get another output | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | i.e. draw samples of the thread states at various times ^^ | 14:36 |
| * apachelogger adds gwenview to phonon's functional release QA | 14:36 | |
| freeflying | ScottK: terrific | 14:37 |
| happyaron | cool! | 14:37 |
| agateau | apachelogger: ah ok! | 14:38 |
| ScottK | freeflying: It still needs some others to agree and someone to do the packaging work. | 14:38 |
| ScottK | As I mentioned, I'm focused on precise at the moment. | 14:38 |
| happyaron | ScottK: what do you mean by packaging? | 14:39 |
| freeflying | ScottK: ppa:fcitx-team/nightly | 14:39 |
| freeflying | ScottK: you may give a try with precise | 14:39 |
| ScottK | freeflying: Right, but I have to get ibus working for 4.8.5. I'm doing that first. | 14:40 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I agree although I'm not sure what it takes to change it | 14:41 |
| Mamarok | well, now I get an error: "The username (myriam) with which you tried to log in is already in use for a different account." | 14:41 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Hopefully Quintasan will show up and save us. | 14:42 |
| csslayer | Riddell: check im-switch file for ibus, and change QT4_IM_MODULE to QT_IM_MODULE, I think that will work. | 14:44 |
| jussi | Riddell: lets see if I can manage it :P | 14:45 |
| Riddell | jussi: bring along the bairn so we can coo | 14:46 |
| jussi | Riddell: Ill see what I can work up | 14:46 |
| agateau | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/527186 | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | merci bc | 14:49 |
| apachelogger | hrm, vlc is locking | 14:50 |
| apachelogger | fun | 14:50 |
| apachelogger | I'll have to try with precise's vlc later | 14:50 |
| * apachelogger rushes to appointment | 14:50 | |
| shadeslayer | agateau: any luck? | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | any news from LittleGirl? | 14:56 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: git clone went well, now I need to build it :) | 14:57 |
| shadeslayer | ;) | 14:57 |
| agateau | mmm, missing deps | 14:58 |
| * agateau hunts for telepathy dev pkg | 14:58 | |
| yofel_ | apachelogger: no, totally forgot to ask :( | 15:03 |
| yofel_ | Riddell: do you know until when the sponship form is open? I'll know whether I'll be able to go around the 12th | 15:04 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: doesn't build here :/ | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | whut | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: missing deps? | 15:07 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: no, missing error-free code :) | 15:07 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: home/aurelien/tmp/ktp-call-ui/libktpcall/private/phonon-integration.cpp:103:1: error: control reaches end of non-void function [-Werror=return-type] | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | I ... don't follow, plus, I've just deleted my root partition in preparation for a reinstall, so it's going to be a bit before I can fix issues | 15:08 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 15:08 |
| shadeslayer | that's weird | 15:08 |
| agateau | work-arounded it | 15:08 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: ok, build and installed. how can I test it? | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: run /path/to/ktp-call-ui ... it should be where you usually install libexec libs | 15:11 |
| shadeslayer | or if you have dbus stuff setup correctly, just run ktp-contact-list and call your phone over xmpp ( I usually test with my jabber id and my gtalk id, gtalk being on the phone ) | 15:12 |
| agateau | I don't think I have all of this setup | 15:12 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: running it says: ktp-call-ui(17599) KTp::TelepathyHandlerApplication::Private::_k_onInitialTimeout: No job received. Exiting | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: yeah, you have to be a bit quick, it exits in about 15 seconds or so | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | make sure you can switch to the contact list ASAP | 15:13 |
| Peace- | btw on quantal there is not 4.9 right? | 15:14 |
| Peace- | it's still 4.8.90? | 15:14 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: ok, got it to run, how do I trigger an error? | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: just flip the condition on the check and hit pause ;) | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | it's in call-window.cpp | 15:20 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: any hint regarding the line number? :) | 15:21 |
| shadeslayer | erm, sec | 15:22 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: ah, line 453 | 15:22 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: it's in CallWindow::operationFinished | 15:23 |
| shadeslayer | for confirmation | 15:23 |
| shadeslayer | ah yes, 453 | 15:23 |
| shadeslayer | and it's already flipped .... so just go ahead and push that pause button | 15:24 |
| agateau | just realized that :) | 15:24 |
| agateau | wondering why it did not show when I blindly removed the '!' | 15:24 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 15:25 |
| shadeslayer | just read this somewhere | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | "C is truth" | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | so .. profound | 15:27 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: GammaRay tells me verticalLayoutWidget_2, which is inside errorWidget, is not in a layout | 15:29 |
| shadeslayer | I don't think I've touched verticalLayoutWidget_2 | 15:29 |
| agateau | then you should | 15:29 |
| shadeslayer | I thought it had 3 at the end | 15:29 |
| shadeslayer | it went something like : somePage->verticalLayout->errorWidget->layout | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | s/layout/verticalLayout2/ | 15:30 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer meant: "it went something like : somePage->verticalLayout->errorWidget->verticalLayout2" | 15:30 |
| agateau | yes, that's how it look in designer indeed | 15:30 |
| agateau | gammaray disagrees | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | then either one of them is broken | 15:30 |
| agateau | anyway, verticalLayout_3 is floating inside errorWidget, that is wrong | 15:31 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: is errorWidget needed? | 15:32 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: looks like it's not used by the code | 15:32 |
| * agateau tries a fix | 15:33 | |
| shadeslayer | agateau: that's what d_ed suggested, and no, it's not used by anything else | 15:33 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: quick fix gives this: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/02/plasma-windowedb18532.png | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | bbl after dinner | 15:35 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: but one can declare KMessageWidget inside the ui, that's simpler | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: resize the window? | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | does | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | km | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | *does KMW follow the new size? | 15:36 |
| agateau | http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/02/plasma-windowedq18532.png | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | whee | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: I didn't know that you could declare a KMW in the ui file | 15:37 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: it is a bit tricky | 15:37 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: KMW inherit from QFrame, so you add a QFrame | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer | show me the tricks o wise one | 15:37 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: then right click it and select "promote to..." | 15:38 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: then fill the form | 15:38 |
| shadeslayer | oh ok | 15:38 |
| shadeslayer | I'll try that after reinstalling Kooboontoo | 15:38 |
| BluesKaj | in the US it's Koobuntoo , bun as in hotdog bun :) | 15:40 |
| jocarter | that's awful. | 15:40 |
| BluesKaj | that's the way I've heard it pronounced on some youtube tutorials | 15:41 |
| BluesKaj | in Canada it's the same as shadeslayer's | 15:42 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: here you go: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/02/plasma-windowedc18532.png | 15:43 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: and the patch: http://paste.kde.org/527228/ | 15:44 |
| apol_ | jtechidna: JontheEchidna: which one are you? | 15:44 |
| jocarter | BluesKaj: yeah at least "kooboontoo" is close to how "ooboontoo" should be pronounced. but I guess technically it's not a word so it should matter | 15:46 |
| jocarter | BluesKaj: just kind of sad to hear it being butchered like that :) | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: looks flipping awesome | 15:46 |
| Riddell | yofel_: dunno ask jono I guess | 15:47 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: did you get sorted or is it still broken? | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: thank you :) | 15:47 |
| BluesKaj | americanization of words are rampant in the US , like processes has become prawsesseeze in some places ..and on it goes | 15:48 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: you're welcome! | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: any notes on how we can improve the UI ? | 15:49 |
| shadeslayer | you should setup a fix-shitty-ui's-in-KDE-hack-day once every month and take a project and tell them what needs improvement :P | 15:50 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: ++ | 15:50 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: that is one of the thing I want to achieve with extra mile bugs | 15:50 |
| jussi | seriously, we should have a UI focus day | 15:51 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: agateau what KDE needs right now is loads of polish | 15:51 |
| agateau | the frame around the avatar should be reworked I think | 15:51 |
| agateau | I would try to make it look like a media player | 15:51 |
| agateau | black bg | 15:52 |
| agateau | takes full width (including borders | 15:52 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, that's something I want to do as well | 15:52 |
| agateau | no bevel | 15:52 |
| shadeslayer | focus on the video itself | 15:52 |
| shadeslayer | or the avatar for that matter | 15:52 |
| agateau | yes | 15:52 |
| agateau | the bottom toolbar and statusbar could be merged as well | 15:53 |
| agateau | but I don't know the application well enough to give good advice there | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 15:53 |
| jtechidna | apol_: jtechidna is my work one, JontheEchidna is at home | 16:02 |
| apol_ | ... xD dude, use Quassel | 16:02 |
| apol_ | jtechidna: i sent you an e-mail | 16:03 |
| jtechidna | ok, I just got back from lunch | 16:03 |
| jtechidna | apol_: I'll take a look at the branch when I get back home | 16:03 |
| jtechidna | neat @ Muon on Arch tho :) | 16:03 |
| apol_ | xD | 16:04 |
| jtechidna | Is arch still using alqm or alpm or whatever? | 16:04 |
| apol_ | jtechidna: no idea :D | 16:05 |
| jtechidna | look like it. | 16:05 |
| apol_ | jtechidna: it only lists the OCS stuff there | 16:05 |
| jtechidna | I think the next step on the OCS frontier would be getting a "Desktop Widgets" section | 16:06 |
| BluesKaj | jtechidna: I'm not the dullest knife in the drawer , but I still do not "get" the activities reason for being | 16:10 |
| jtechidna | I don't use 'em | 16:10 |
| jtechidna | virtual desktops work fine for me | 16:11 |
| BluesKaj | yup , that's what I use | 16:11 |
| BluesKaj | BBL | 16:13 |
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| Mamarok | Riddell: got it sorted, actually part of it, they areworking on it | 16:18 |
| Riddell | well done | 16:18 |
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| shadeslayer__ | so, I think I found a bug in the installer | 16:33 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer__: surely not! | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer__ | clicking the 'x' here doesn't do anything : http://i.imgur.com/AiVJf.png | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer__ | :P | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer__ | iirc the last time I tried to click it, it crashed the installr | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer__ | *installer | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer__ | so maybe someone disabled it | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer__ | brb reboot | 16:36 |
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| ScottK | When I build kdepim-runtime for 4.8.5, it doesn't build akonadi_calendarsearch_agent. When I build kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 against the kde4libs/kdepimlibs for 4.8.5, then it does. Here's the full 4.8.4 -> 4.8.5 diff for kdepim-runtime: http://paste.debian.net/181730/ | 18:32 |
| ScottK | Thoughts? | 18:32 |
| rdieter | ScottK: kdepim-runtime-4.8.5/agents/CMakeLists.txt:#add_subdirectory( calendarsearch ) | 18:37 |
| rdieter | ScottK: looks like it's commented-out | 18:37 |
| ScottK | rdieter: Thanks. Missed that in the diff. | 18:38 |
| ScottK | That would certainly do it. | 18:38 |
| rbelem | ScottK, kubuntu-desktop seems to be broken on arm | 18:39 |
| BluesKaj | rbelem: how ?, working fine here | 18:46 |
| BluesKaj | oh sorry didn't see arm , rbelem | 18:46 |
| BluesKaj | been thinking about an arm project for my HT | 18:47 |
| rbelem | :-) | 18:48 |
| ScottK | rdieter: That was exactly it. Thanks again. | 18:49 |
| rdieter | ScottK: np (I ran into it too) | 18:49 |
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| ScottK | rdieter_laptop: Did you hit any other issues? | 20:18 |
| rdieter_laptop | ScottK: just saw an odd build failure in kdf, but I'm seeing it's reproducible or not | 20:19 |
| SteveRiley | apachelogger: hottest topics from...what? the forum? the irc channel(s)? | 20:19 |
| ScottK | rdieter_laptop: kdf? | 20:19 |
| rdieter_laptop | ScottK: ark added some icons, but that's welcome | 20:19 |
| ScottK | Yeah, that counts as a fix. | 20:20 |
| rdieter_laptop | ScottK: nobody really should care about kdf anyway (kde disk formatter) :-/ | 20:20 |
| rdieter_laptop | err, wait, KDiskFree | 20:21 |
| rdieter_laptop | I guess I was mixing it up with kfloppy | 20:21 |
| ScottK | If I believe https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeutils/kdf/repository/show?rev=KDE%2F4.8 it doesn't look like anything changed in it for 4.8.5. | 20:24 |
| SteveRiley | Riddell: i presume you're referring to UDS? indeed, the date would work. i'll need to check into travel costs. | 20:26 |
| ScottK | SteveRiley: You can ask if Canonical will sponsor you. | 20:26 |
| SteveRiley | ScottK: ah, ok... http://uds.ubuntu.com appears not to have info on how to get sponsored. is there another route to finding out how? | 20:30 |
| SteveRiley | (i am the Delta lounge at DCA airport, shitty connection, slow web pages, errors, &c. *whine*) | 20:31 |
| * SteveRiley gets another gin tonic | 20:31 | |
| ScottK | SteveRiley: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/sponsorship/ | 20:33 |
| ScottK | SteveRiley: You're about 90 minutes from my house then. | 20:33 |
| SteveRiley | ScottK: well i come here about every three months. we should meet up | 20:34 |
| ScottK | And yes, copious alcohol before flying out of DCA is a great idea (although make sure you can make it 30 minutes from takeoff without having to get up ...) | 20:34 |
| ScottK | OK. | 20:34 |
| SteveRiley | ah, the alaska air gate is very close to the lounge. fortunately | 20:35 |
| jjesse | DCA is a nice airport to fly in and out of | 20:36 |
| jjesse | realitively painless | 20:36 |
| SteveRiley | whoops, didn't read what you wrote closely enough. i don't recall a 30-minute must-sit requirement last time i flew out of dca | 20:36 |
| ScottK | It's been awhile since I did, maybe they got rid of it (I'm a lot closer to BWI). | 20:38 |
| SteveRiley | they got the tsa pre-check here. yay. 10 seconds through security, love it | 20:39 |
| SteveRiley | anyway... all this airport stuff ain't kubuntu-devel related | 20:39 |
| ScottK | Don't even get me started on TSA. That would definitely be OT. | 20:42 |
| SteveRiley | okie, sponsorship request has been submitted. will let you all know what happens ... time to fly! | 20:58 |
| valorie | going to UDS would be lovely, but I don't think this year | 21:07 |
| valorie | just booked tickets to the Randa sprint in Switzerland, end of Sept. | 21:07 |
| valorie | \o/ | 21:07 |
| valorie | on of these days I won't be visiting my daddy every other night, and will get active here again | 21:08 |
| elliria | Hey there' it's littlergirl checking in on my tablet. I hope you guys got my last-second email! | 21:11 |
| ScottK | Hello elliria . | 21:13 |
| ScottK | Not sure. | 21:14 |
| elliria | Is everything going well? | 21:14 |
| ScottK | Reasonably. | 21:15 |
| ScottK | Could use more help, as always ... | 21:15 |
| elliria | I'll help again when I'm back on my computer. Hopefully that won't be too long. (: | 21:17 |
| ScottK | Sure thing. | 21:17 |
| elliria | Have fun meanwhile! I'm off to learn about the tablet. (: | 21:19 |
| ScottK | Why did we add wxwidgets to the supported seed? | 22:01 |
| * ScottK certainly doesn't want to support such insanity. | 22:01 | |
| Daskreech | Do we add any Kubuntu info to http://kde.org/info/4.9.0.php or http://www.kde.org/download/distributions.php ? | 22:04 |
| Daskreech | or does thepackages have to move out of backports ? | 22:09 |
| yofel_ | Daskreech: we usually do that together with the announcement - and with the packages slightly broken there was none | 22:11 |
| Daskreech | How slight? | 22:12 |
| yofel_ | wrong lib version in kdelibs requiring a rebuild of several of the other packages | 22:12 |
| Daskreech | Ah | 22:13 |
| Daskreech | will it be topiced in #kubuntu ? | 22:13 |
| * micahg wonders why the new KDE stack didn't go though -proposed | 22:14 | |
| Riddell | micahg: hmm that didn't occut to me for some reason, I'm not in the practice yet of using it outside freezes | 22:18 |
| yofel_ | micahg: why should it? we're not in soft freeze? | 22:19 |
| ScottK | Still seems like overkill to me. | 22:19 |
| yofel_ | wait, we're supposed to use that always now? | 22:19 |
| ScottK | Honestly, if people can't handle a little archive skew, they shouldn't run the devel release, no matter how smooth we try to make it. | 22:19 |
| Riddell | yofel_: for large package collections | 22:19 |
| ScottK | yofel_: Only for things that affect installability of multiple packages. | 22:20 |
| yofel_ | ah | 22:20 |
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| micahg | just something to keep in mind, that stack affects quite a bit | 22:20 |
| micahg | ScottK: while I agree, that's not the way it's being pushed, so I think we need to tread with more caution to prevent blowing up people's systems (in the end it's their fault, but we can mitigate most of it) | 22:21 |
| ScottK | Oh. Cantor. Now I understand wx. | 22:21 |
| ScottK | micahg: Canonical management insanity is not my responsibility. | 22:22 |
| micahg | ScottK: it's project wide usage at this point AIUI | 22:26 |
| ScottK | Yes, well, if everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you? | 22:27 |
| ScottK | The development release is for, um, development and $STUFF will happen. | 22:28 |
| ScottK | If you can't managed dealing with that $STUFF, don't run it. | 22:28 |
| JontheEchidna | 10 files changed, 1003 deletions(-) | 22:40 |
| JontheEchidna | that feel | 22:40 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: what's that? | 22:41 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: I deleted 2 classes that were replaced by some that apol_ wrote | 22:42 |
| JontheEchidna | in Muon | 22:42 |
| apol_ | JontheEchidna: :D | 22:42 |
| JontheEchidna | apol_: ApplicationModel and ApplicationProxyModel are no more | 22:42 |
| * apol_ hugs JontheEchidna | 22:43 | |
| JontheEchidna | apol_: mind if I disable the role type debug in ResourcesModel? | 22:50 |
| apol_ | JontheEchidna: no problem | 22:51 |
| JontheEchidna | k, cool | 22:51 |
| apol_ | JontheEchidna: do you get a lot of warnings? | 22:51 |
| JontheEchidna | apol_: yeah | 22:51 |
| apol_ | JontheEchidna: maybe we should look into this.... | 22:52 |
| JontheEchidna | apol_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1126111/ | 22:52 |
| apol_ | JontheEchidna: do you get that in discover too? | 22:53 |
| JontheEchidna | apol_: dunno, tons of KNSBackend debug there xD | 22:53 |
| apol_ | yes... I hate that too | 22:53 |
| apol_ | JontheEchidna: I even sent the patch to attica | 22:53 |
| apol_ | to fix that :S | 22:53 |
| JontheEchidna | apol_: no, I don't think I get those warnings in discover | 22:53 |
| apol_ | JontheEchidna: ok then don't remove it and I'll check tomorrow | 22:54 |
| JontheEchidna | ok | 22:54 |
| JontheEchidna | the delegate looks normal, so I don't know what it's trying to get that ResourcesModel can't provide | 22:54 |
| JontheEchidna | apol_: btw, the aptify branch looks good | 22:56 |
| apol_ | yep | 22:56 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe name the class QAptIntegration though? | 22:56 |
| apol_ | JontheEchidna: feel free to change it | 22:56 |
| JontheEchidna | ok | 22:56 |
| apol_ | JontheEchidna: I don't like to stop working when I know what I want to do just because I need to figure out a good name :$ | 22:57 |
| JontheEchidna | ;-) | 22:57 |
| JontheEchidna | apol_: also, I removed the broken Zeitgeist stuff | 22:58 |
| apol_ | JontheEchidna: was it all this broken? | 22:58 |
| apol_ | :P | 22:58 |
| apol_ | i thought it was cool if it worked | 22:58 |
| JontheEchidna | even when it wasn't broken, nothing had zeitgeist integration that could be used | 22:59 |
| apol_ | hm | 22:59 |
| apol_ | ok | 22:59 |
| apol_ | hten | 22:59 |
| JontheEchidna | to test it I had to compile a zeitgeist plugin for kate to use it | 22:59 |
| JontheEchidna | but that was the only thing that I ever had to test it with, lol | 22:59 |
| apol_ | but zeitgeist is a good way to approach gnome :P | 22:59 |
| JontheEchidna | for some reason every app just returns 1 use, even uninstalled apps xD | 23:00 |
| DoctorPepper | hi guys !!! | 23:08 |
| JontheEchidna | hello | 23:09 |
| DoctorPepper | can anyone please help me , trying to build networkmanagement plasmoid but i get the following errors: / | 23:10 |
| DoctorPepper | usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/deprecated/gthread.h:135:3: error: conflicting declaration ‘typedef struct GStaticMutex GStaticMutex’ | 23:10 |
| DoctorPepper | /usr/include/glib-2.0/glibconfig.h:160:30: error: ‘GStaticMutex’ has a previous declaration as ‘typedef struct _GStaticMutex GStaticMutex’ | 23:10 |
| JontheEchidna | DoctorPepper: try running sudo apt-get build-dep networkmanagement | 23:13 |
| JontheEchidna | it should get you all the required build dependencies | 23:13 |
| skreech__ | Hi DoctorPepper | 23:33 |
| DoctorPepper | hi | 23:33 |
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