[01:00] I saw that kde 4.9 was released for precise via ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports and was wondering when it would be available for quantal === fenris is now known as Guest49532 === Guest49532 is now known as ejat [03:42] yay package conflicts [03:45] http://www.tm-travolta.net/traces/1204-kde-490-apt.txt [04:02] Tm_T: amd64? [04:03] yes [04:03] Archive skew. Wait and try again. [04:03] aww, still? [04:04] Could be something failed and needs a retry. [04:04] * ScottK hasn't been watching the PPA. [04:04] ScottK: what about that mess I had with nepomuk? [04:04] Dunno. [04:05] have to look the build status when I get to the office -> [04:07] It looks like it's built now, so not sure. [04:07] * ScottK needs to sleep. [04:54] hmh, more funneehs [05:23] I can see kde 4.9 packages in the kubuntu backports ppa, is it safe to use these as there is no anouncement on kubuntu.org? [05:24] kio_http: it's quite possible not all packages are there yet, or final test is not done yet [05:25] s/done/successfully done/ [05:25] Tm_T meant: "kio_http: it's quite possible not all packages are there yet, or final test is not successfully done yet" [05:25] aww [05:28] I see there is a kubottu here now [07:57] Riddell, around? [08:10] hi dpm [08:12] hey :) you pinged me a while ago about disabling langpacks for Quantal, and I directed you to pitti. I see he applied the changes to langpack-o-matic already. Could you please send an announcement to the ubuntu-translators list explaining the change? [08:13] can do [08:14] Thanks. If you could find some time for it today it'd be great, as we'd then disable the KDE templates in Launchpad and open Quantal translations straight away [08:16] Tm_T: did you work it out? [08:17] Riddell: well, I can sort the package issues locally, but that wouldn't help others [08:17] so I'm wondering if these are something that should be fixed on packaging [08:19] Tm_T: it's not clear from what you pasted what you told apt to do [08:19] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (wajig daily-upgrade in short) [08:20] mm [08:22] added more to the bottom of the file [08:22] brb, gotta buy lunch [08:37] chomp [08:39] Tm_T: here finished right now a precise 4.8->4.9 upgrade. The upgrade was well, no conflicts or missing pkgs, or outdated versions. [08:40] Congrats! Now a logout/in ;-) [08:41] allee: i386 or amd64? [08:41] Riddell: amd64 [08:42] so it could be just me, after installing plasma-active stuff to Kubuntu [09:01] ah, that reminds me to try active with quantal because quantal, for first time handles, my laptop touchscreen perfectly [09:08] allee: I've no idea what state active is in, I took a random snapshot but it hasn't had a release so I don't know if it works [09:14] time to rebuild large parts of 4.9 then [09:43] ScottK: do-release-upgrade -d [09:43] upgrade hanged when it tried to restart atd [09:44] might also be because of some weird stuff that the hosting provider installs from it's own repos [11:23] Howdy all [11:41] "I cant stack 2 panels on top of eachother to use as a quicklaunchbar" [11:42] you know [11:43] I always was annoyed by plasma not giving containments/panels a depth, now there is even a use case for that [11:43] ^^ [11:43] you were annoyed at something without a use case? [11:44] well, I was annoyed about plasma upon breaking itself in version upgrades suddenly had overlapping panels [11:44] and the first time that happend it took me like a week to figure out why my tray was having oddly [11:44] (one panel was slightly higher than the other) [11:46] if plasma had just very basic 3d simulations that would not have happend to be begin with [11:48] SteveRiley: what kfn needs is a "hottest topics last week" feature ^^ === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Status: http://goo.gl/ZGGJP | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | apachelogger: SRU plymouth logo & SRU pgst & fix ipod support [12:02] the weather is just horrible here [12:02] kubotu: weather Gurgaon [12:02] 0.o [12:03] apachelogger: ^ did you disable that? [12:06] JontheEchidna: ping [12:06] kubotu: weather Vienna, AT [12:06] shadeslayer: apparently [12:06] kubotu: help weather [12:06] no help for topic weather [12:06] *shrug* [12:08] shadeslayer: might just have been removed [12:08] I don't see it in the blacklist anyway [12:09] ok [12:34] agateau: really stupid question, but I can't seem to make KMessageWidget resize dynamically [12:35] I've added a vertical layout to my ui file and call KMessageWidget::setLayout on it [12:35] it being my KMW ofcourse [12:36] relevant code snippet : http://paste.kde.org/527114/ [12:44] apol_: pong === echidnaman is now known as jtechidna === apol_ is now known as apol [12:45] jtechidna: here? [12:45] xD [12:45] damn [12:45] you have a lot of nicks [12:45] ;) [12:46] that was my third fallback nick [12:46] the office must have lost internet connection last night [12:46] jtechidna: I'm thinking of moving the actions in MuonMainWindow to the QApt::Backend [12:46] jtechidna: does that sound sane to you? [12:47] the actions? [12:48] jtechidna: MuonMainWindow::setupActions() [12:48] I'd like to keep LibQApt Qt only [12:49] ah [12:49] ergh [12:49] true [12:50] the backend is in libqapt [12:50] * apol thinks again... [12:50] or tries too... >.< [12:51] perhaps there could be a separate KDE integration library that provides common UI bits, like presenting errors, warnings, etc [12:52] jtechidna: I'll create an "apt-ify mainwindow class", that does these things [12:52] jtechidna: and see how far I can go [12:52] ok [12:52] apol: btw, I've started to port muon-installer to the resources stuff. I think I've been careful not to break anything on the QML side, but please let me know if I did [12:53] jtechidna: have you changed anything in the libmuon part? [12:53] a few things [12:53] uh [12:53] i see [12:53] ok [12:53] I'll try [12:54] jtechidna: and yes, thanks for the s/application/resource [12:55] Qt Creator is great for that, but not so much for refactoring QML code [12:55] brb, coffee [12:56] :P [13:21] shadeslayer: If atd restart is hanging I seriously doubt it's the upgrade's fault. [13:22] ScottK: thought so ... like I said, there were some weird packages installed [13:22] saw a couple of bug reports about atd hanging while restarting on the upgrade though [13:23] then again, dpkg --configure -a and apt-get -f install to the rescue ;) [13:54] The respun kdelibs for 4.8.5 is out, so I'm working on building those. [13:58] UDS sponsorship application time, visit sunny Denmark! [13:59] * Riddell nudges jtechidna, debfx, yofel_,ScottK, Mamarok, shadeslayer, apachelogger into applying [13:59] already on that page ;) [13:59] why it always is at such inconvenient times is beyond me -.- [13:59] I probably won't be able to make any of the fall UDS's due to uni until I'm out of uni :( [13:59] valorie, SteveRiley, afiestas_, apol: do consider it [14:00] agateau: you know you want to [14:00] Quintasan too. [14:00] Riddell: when is it? [14:00] jtechidna: muwhahahaha ... I no more have that issue \o/ [14:00] shadeslayer: lucky sun of a gun :P [14:00] Riddell: I do! [14:00] Riddell: already done [14:00] ;) [14:00] jussi: not too far for you to come? [14:01] two more years until I have my 4-year degree... [14:01] ofcourse, I'm still waiting for my last sem results, and hopefully I should pass all of it [14:01] wat [14:01] jtechidna: how old are you ? 0.o [14:01] shadeslayer: turning 21 later this month [14:01] you're .... younger than me? :O [14:02] lol [14:02] Riddell: where does one ask for sponsoring? [14:02] agateau: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/sponsorship/ [14:03] shadeslayer: I started contributing back in '08 when I was 17 [14:03] likewise [14:03] started in October-November 2008 I think [14:04] contributions were probably 6 more months down the line [14:04] basically I saw this new KDE4 thing, and hopped on to #kubuntu IRC to give some suggestions :P [14:04] hehe [14:04] wandered in to #kubuntu-devel, and one thing led to another... [14:04] jtechidna: for me it was windows crashing on me and a kubuntu CD lying around to recover my data [14:04] Mamarok pointed me to this channel after she got fed up of my questions :P [14:05] lol [14:05] I remember. You were very... enthusiastic ;-) [14:05] ;) [14:06] He didn't even let exams distract him back then. [14:06] heh [14:07] Riddell: requested sponsorship. How long until I know if it is accepted? [14:07] Riddell: I have a problem: the application page is hard-coded to my old mail address, although that is not used anymore, and is not in launchapad anymore either [14:07] rbelem: you too [14:07] agateau: august 17th I think [14:07] agateau: they'll email you with ack/nack a few weeks afterwards [14:07] jtechidna: ok, thanks [14:08] then you'll email/call up the travel agency they give you [14:08] and they'll set you up [14:08] you just have to be careful or they'll schedule your flight to leave during the closing ceremonies :P [14:09] I see :) [14:09] (speaking from experience) [14:09] back on the oneiric UDS my flight got delayed due to that Volcano [14:11] Ej-whatever-the-hell-it's-name-was [14:11] luckily it was only delayed on the way there :P [14:11] not fun being stuck in a foreign country [14:11] Eyjafjallajökull [14:13] jtechidna: lol [14:13] jtechidna: someone from akademy got stuck in poland for like 2 days (weekend) [14:13] can't recall who though [14:13] ouch [14:14] unless you have business to attend that is not too terrible IMHO, can do some sight seeing and stuff [14:14] yeah [14:15] man, I have final exams for the spring semester May 9-16. hopefully they don't schedule UDS during those :s [14:16] but given their track record, they probably will [14:16] things were fine until they changed up the release schedule to release on 10.10.10 :P [14:17] * apachelogger waves fist [14:17] shadeslayer: pauseError->setLayout(...) that looks wrong: it should be d->ui.verticalLayout->addWidget(pauseError) [14:17] agateau: yeah, did that as well, still no luck [14:18] shadeslayer: how does it look? [14:18] what do they mean by "Would you be willing to participate as member of the crew?"? [14:18] agateau: http://i.imgur.com/cCim2.png [14:18] Mamarok: man cameras and stuff like that [14:18] as in crew organizing uds-r? [14:19] agateau: http://paste.kde.org/527156 < ui file [14:19] The crew was responsible for changing signs around the meeting venue [14:19] I did it and got a nice t-shirt [14:20] shadeslayer: mmm, can you push the code to bzr +junk or kde scratch? [14:20] sure [14:20] give me a couple of minutes [14:20] actually, one thing you need to do is to add the KMW once [14:20] at startup, create the widget, just don't show it [14:20] when you get an error, set the error message and call animatedShow() [14:21] hmm .. sounds sane, I'll just add it to the d-pointer ... [14:21] otherwise you will create a KMW everytime there is an error [14:21] yep [14:21] not sure it is going to fix your problem, but it's better anyway [14:23] ScottK: hi, I notice there is some discussion about kubuntu and ibus.. while I would recommend kubuntu to switch to fcitx, I'm the main developer of fcitx, I already send a mail to maillist, but seems no kubuntu-dev reply on it yet. do you have any concern on this? [14:23] Riddell, yup :-) [14:23] Oo [14:23] csslayer: Hello. I had intended to reply, but lost track. [14:24] (I actually thought I had) [14:24] * apachelogger points out that it seems one needs to switch input technology every 3 years or so [14:24] * rbelem is hacking zatab now [14:24] Since we're part of the Ubuntu project, it's generally better for us to use the same things they are unless there's a good reason. [14:25] csslayer: What are the advantages of fcitx over ibus? [14:25] rbelem: that reminds me [14:25] yofel_: did you ask zareason about shippery? [14:25] ScottK: well, as I already stated in the mail, quite a lot better kde integration. [14:25] Riddell, i will be two days in home, before switching to samsung [14:25] Right. [14:25] ScottK: and gtk-free. [14:26] We have two problems: [14:26] 1. Get precise working. [14:26] 2. Make it really good in quantal. [14:26] For problem #1 it's got to be ibus. [14:26] * rbelem hugs apachelogger [14:26] So I think we need to go through the ibus stuff, get it working and then look into alternatives. [14:26] gtk free is definitely nice. [14:26] ScottK: +1 for adopting fcitx in kubuntu [14:26] * apachelogger rehuggles the rbelem [14:27] :-) [14:27] freeflying or csslayer : Are there packages for it? [14:27] ScottK: yes, and well maintained in Debian [14:27] OK. That's good news. [14:27] ScottK: also csslayer is the upstreamer maintainer [14:27] ScottK: yes, we have quite well communication with debian packager. [14:28] That's all good. [14:28] ScottK: he did offer his hands to help make it better in kubuntu [14:28] ScottK: not to say I'm kimpanl's maintainer, too :) [14:28] Riddell: ^^^ seems worth investigating. [14:28] :-) [14:28] That's also important. [14:28] Riddell: I strongly second csslayer's proposal [14:28] Quintasan: ^^^ you around? [14:29] agateau: interesting, as soon as I allocate memory to KMW it shows up [14:29] He was looking into quantal while I was focused on precise. [14:29] * freeflying switched to use fcitx 2 yrs back [14:29] I do keep hearing good things about fcitx [14:29] * rbelem goes back to zatab [14:29] shadeslayer: oh right [14:30] :P [14:30] shadeslayer: call hide() on it after creating it [14:30] Riddell: or we may bring it to UDS, and get csslayer there? :P [14:30] * apachelogger found an agateau [14:31] apachelogger: where did you find that? [14:31] agateau: if you get a chance please run gwenview with video through gdb, when video locks up get a thread apply all bt sample [14:31] actually [14:31] more like 4 samples or so [14:32] I suspect there is a deadlock in the frame delivery, just not sure why as the code is only locked in one function [14:32] all bit mysterious [14:32] also I cannot replicate the issue on vlc master [14:32] agateau: repo is kde:scratch/garg/ktp-call-ui , branch is holdCalls [14:33] * agateau clones [14:33] * apachelogger doesn't get anything done because he is hopping from one construction site to another -.- [14:33] freeflying: I think we should fix it for quantal and not wait for UDS. [14:33] If we're going to make major technology changes, the release right after LTS is the best place. [14:34] Riddell: Based on what I'm hearing it seems reasonable to me to take fcitx for a spin and see how it goes for beta 1. [14:35] apachelogger: what is this "sample" argument? [14:35] agateau: nah, I meant get the output of that, then continue, get another output, continue, get another output [14:36] i.e. draw samples of the thread states at various times ^^ [14:36] * apachelogger adds gwenview to phonon's functional release QA [14:37] ScottK: terrific [14:37] cool! [14:38] apachelogger: ah ok! [14:38] freeflying: It still needs some others to agree and someone to do the packaging work. [14:38] As I mentioned, I'm focused on precise at the moment. [14:39] ScottK: what do you mean by packaging? [14:39] ScottK: ppa:fcitx-team/nightly [14:39] ScottK: you may give a try with precise [14:40] freeflying: Right, but I have to get ibus working for 4.8.5. I'm doing that first. [14:41] ScottK: I agree although I'm not sure what it takes to change it [14:41] well, now I get an error: "The username (myriam) with which you tried to log in is already in use for a different account." [14:42] Riddell: Hopefully Quintasan will show up and save us. [14:44] Riddell: check im-switch file for ibus, and change QT4_IM_MODULE to QT_IM_MODULE, I think that will work. [14:45] Riddell: lets see if I can manage it :P [14:46] jussi: bring along the bairn so we can coo [14:46] Riddell: Ill see what I can work up [14:48] apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/527186 [14:49] merci bc [14:50] hrm, vlc is locking [14:50] fun [14:50] I'll have to try with precise's vlc later [14:50] * apachelogger rushes to appointment [14:56] agateau: any luck? [14:56] any news from LittleGirl? [14:57] shadeslayer: git clone went well, now I need to build it :) [14:57] ;) [14:58] mmm, missing deps [14:58] * agateau hunts for telepathy dev pkg [15:03] apachelogger: no, totally forgot to ask :( [15:04] Riddell: do you know until when the sponship form is open? I'll know whether I'll be able to go around the 12th [15:06] shadeslayer: doesn't build here :/ [15:06] whut [15:07] agateau: missing deps? [15:07] shadeslayer: no, missing error-free code :) [15:07] shadeslayer: home/aurelien/tmp/ktp-call-ui/libktpcall/private/phonon-integration.cpp:103:1: error: control reaches end of non-void function [-Werror=return-type] [15:08] I ... don't follow, plus, I've just deleted my root partition in preparation for a reinstall, so it's going to be a bit before I can fix issues [15:08] oh [15:08] that's weird [15:08] work-arounded it [15:10] shadeslayer: ok, build and installed. how can I test it? [15:11] agateau: run /path/to/ktp-call-ui ... it should be where you usually install libexec libs [15:12] or if you have dbus stuff setup correctly, just run ktp-contact-list and call your phone over xmpp ( I usually test with my jabber id and my gtalk id, gtalk being on the phone ) [15:12] I don't think I have all of this setup [15:13] shadeslayer: running it says: ktp-call-ui(17599) KTp::TelepathyHandlerApplication::Private::_k_onInitialTimeout: No job received. Exiting [15:13] agateau: yeah, you have to be a bit quick, it exits in about 15 seconds or so [15:13] make sure you can switch to the contact list ASAP [15:14] btw on quantal there is not 4.9 right? [15:14] it's still 4.8.90? [15:19] shadeslayer: ok, got it to run, how do I trigger an error? [15:20] agateau: just flip the condition on the check and hit pause ;) [15:20] it's in call-window.cpp [15:21] shadeslayer: any hint regarding the line number? :) [15:22] erm, sec [15:22] shadeslayer: ah, line 453 [15:23] agateau: it's in CallWindow::operationFinished [15:23] for confirmation [15:23] ah yes, 453 [15:24] and it's already flipped .... so just go ahead and push that pause button [15:24] just realized that :) [15:24] wondering why it did not show when I blindly removed the '!' [15:25] :P [15:27] just read this somewhere [15:27] "C is truth" [15:27] so .. profound [15:29] shadeslayer: GammaRay tells me verticalLayoutWidget_2, which is inside errorWidget, is not in a layout [15:29] I don't think I've touched verticalLayoutWidget_2 [15:29] then you should [15:29] I thought it had 3 at the end [15:30] it went something like : somePage->verticalLayout->errorWidget->layout [15:30] s/layout/verticalLayout2/ [15:30] shadeslayer meant: "it went something like : somePage->verticalLayout->errorWidget->verticalLayout2" [15:30] yes, that's how it look in designer indeed [15:30] gammaray disagrees [15:30] then either one of them is broken [15:31] anyway, verticalLayout_3 is floating inside errorWidget, that is wrong [15:32] shadeslayer: is errorWidget needed? [15:32] shadeslayer: looks like it's not used by the code [15:33] * agateau tries a fix [15:33] agateau: that's what d_ed suggested, and no, it's not used by anything else [15:35] shadeslayer: quick fix gives this: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/02/plasma-windowedb18532.png [15:35] bbl after dinner [15:35] shadeslayer: but one can declare KMessageWidget inside the ui, that's simpler [15:35] agateau: resize the window? [15:36] does [15:36] km [15:36] *does KMW follow the new size? [15:36] http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/02/plasma-windowedq18532.png [15:36] whee [15:37] agateau: I didn't know that you could declare a KMW in the ui file [15:37] shadeslayer: it is a bit tricky [15:37] shadeslayer: KMW inherit from QFrame, so you add a QFrame [15:37] show me the tricks o wise one [15:38] shadeslayer: then right click it and select "promote to..." [15:38] shadeslayer: then fill the form [15:38] oh ok [15:38] I'll try that after reinstalling Kooboontoo [15:40] in the US it's Koobuntoo , bun as in hotdog bun :) [15:40] that's awful. [15:41] that's the way I've heard it pronounced on some youtube tutorials [15:42] in Canada it's the same as shadeslayer's [15:43] shadeslayer: here you go: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/02/plasma-windowedc18532.png [15:44] shadeslayer: and the patch: http://paste.kde.org/527228/ [15:44] jtechidna: JontheEchidna: which one are you? [15:46] BluesKaj: yeah at least "kooboontoo" is close to how "ooboontoo" should be pronounced. but I guess technically it's not a word so it should matter [15:46] BluesKaj: just kind of sad to hear it being butchered like that :) [15:46] agateau: looks flipping awesome [15:47] yofel_: dunno ask jono I guess [15:47] Mamarok: did you get sorted or is it still broken? [15:47] agateau: thank you :) [15:48] americanization of words are rampant in the US , like processes has become prawsesseeze in some places ..and on it goes [15:48] shadeslayer: you're welcome! [15:49] agateau: any notes on how we can improve the UI ? [15:50] you should setup a fix-shitty-ui's-in-KDE-hack-day once every month and take a project and tell them what needs improvement :P [15:50] shadeslayer: ++ [15:50] shadeslayer: that is one of the thing I want to achieve with extra mile bugs [15:51] seriously, we should have a UI focus day [15:51] jussi: agateau what KDE needs right now is loads of polish [15:51] the frame around the avatar should be reworked I think [15:51] I would try to make it look like a media player [15:52] black bg [15:52] takes full width (including borders [15:52] yeah, that's something I want to do as well [15:52] no bevel [15:52] focus on the video itself [15:52] or the avatar for that matter [15:52] yes [15:53] the bottom toolbar and statusbar could be merged as well [15:53] but I don't know the application well enough to give good advice there [15:53] hehe [16:02] apol_: jtechidna is my work one, JontheEchidna is at home [16:02] ... xD dude, use Quassel [16:03] jtechidna: i sent you an e-mail [16:03] ok, I just got back from lunch [16:03] apol_: I'll take a look at the branch when I get back home [16:03] neat @ Muon on Arch tho :) [16:04] xD [16:04] Is arch still using alqm or alpm or whatever? [16:05] jtechidna: no idea :D [16:05] look like it. [16:05] jtechidna: it only lists the OCS stuff there [16:06] I think the next step on the OCS frontier would be getting a "Desktop Widgets" section [16:10] jtechidna: I'm not the dullest knife in the drawer , but I still do not "get" the activities reason for being [16:10] I don't use 'em [16:11] virtual desktops work fine for me [16:11] yup , that's what I use [16:13] BBL === skreech__ is now known as Daskreech [16:18] Riddell: got it sorted, actually part of it, they areworking on it [16:18] well done === kubuntu is now known as kubuntu__ === kubuntu__ is now known as shadeslayer__ [16:33] so, I think I found a bug in the installer [16:33] shadeslayer__: surely not! [16:34] clicking the 'x' here doesn't do anything : http://i.imgur.com/AiVJf.png [16:34] :P [16:34] iirc the last time I tried to click it, it crashed the installr [16:34] *installer [16:34] so maybe someone disabled it [16:36] brb reboot === happyaron is now known as Guest39800 [18:32] When I build kdepim-runtime for 4.8.5, it doesn't build akonadi_calendarsearch_agent. When I build kdepim-runtime 4.8.4 against the kde4libs/kdepimlibs for 4.8.5, then it does. Here's the full 4.8.4 -> 4.8.5 diff for kdepim-runtime: http://paste.debian.net/181730/ [18:32] Thoughts? [18:37] ScottK: kdepim-runtime-4.8.5/agents/CMakeLists.txt:#add_subdirectory( calendarsearch ) [18:37] ScottK: looks like it's commented-out [18:38] rdieter: Thanks. Missed that in the diff. [18:38] That would certainly do it. [18:39] ScottK, kubuntu-desktop seems to be broken on arm [18:46] rbelem: how ?, working fine here [18:46] oh sorry didn't see arm , rbelem [18:47] been thinking about an arm project for my HT [18:48] :-) [18:49] rdieter: That was exactly it. Thanks again. [18:49] ScottK: np (I ran into it too) === sreich is now known as any === any is now known as sreich === jalcine is now known as Jacky [20:18] rdieter_laptop: Did you hit any other issues? [20:19] ScottK: just saw an odd build failure in kdf, but I'm seeing it's reproducible or not [20:19] apachelogger: hottest topics from...what? the forum? the irc channel(s)? [20:19] rdieter_laptop: kdf? [20:19] ScottK: ark added some icons, but that's welcome [20:20] Yeah, that counts as a fix. [20:20] ScottK: nobody really should care about kdf anyway (kde disk formatter) :-/ [20:21] err, wait, KDiskFree [20:21] I guess I was mixing it up with kfloppy [20:24] If I believe https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeutils/kdf/repository/show?rev=KDE%2F4.8 it doesn't look like anything changed in it for 4.8.5. [20:26] Riddell: i presume you're referring to UDS? indeed, the date would work. i'll need to check into travel costs. [20:26] SteveRiley: You can ask if Canonical will sponsor you. [20:30] ScottK: ah, ok... http://uds.ubuntu.com appears not to have info on how to get sponsored. is there another route to finding out how? [20:31] (i am the Delta lounge at DCA airport, shitty connection, slow web pages, errors, &c. *whine*) [20:31] * SteveRiley gets another gin tonic [20:33] SteveRiley: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/sponsorship/ [20:33] SteveRiley: You're about 90 minutes from my house then. [20:34] ScottK: well i come here about every three months. we should meet up [20:34] And yes, copious alcohol before flying out of DCA is a great idea (although make sure you can make it 30 minutes from takeoff without having to get up ...) [20:34] OK. [20:35] ah, the alaska air gate is very close to the lounge. fortunately [20:36] DCA is a nice airport to fly in and out of [20:36] realitively painless [20:36] whoops, didn't read what you wrote closely enough. i don't recall a 30-minute must-sit requirement last time i flew out of dca [20:38] It's been awhile since I did, maybe they got rid of it (I'm a lot closer to BWI). [20:39] they got the tsa pre-check here. yay. 10 seconds through security, love it [20:39] anyway... all this airport stuff ain't kubuntu-devel related [20:42] Don't even get me started on TSA. That would definitely be OT. [20:58] okie, sponsorship request has been submitted. will let you all know what happens ... time to fly! [21:07] going to UDS would be lovely, but I don't think this year [21:07] just booked tickets to the Randa sprint in Switzerland, end of Sept. [21:07] \o/ [21:08] on of these days I won't be visiting my daddy every other night, and will get active here again [21:11] Hey there' it's littlergirl checking in on my tablet. I hope you guys got my last-second email! [21:13] Hello elliria . [21:14] Not sure. [21:14] Is everything going well? [21:15] Reasonably. [21:15] Could use more help, as always ... [21:17] I'll help again when I'm back on my computer. Hopefully that won't be too long. (: [21:17] Sure thing. [21:19] Have fun meanwhile! I'm off to learn about the tablet. (: [22:01] Why did we add wxwidgets to the supported seed? [22:01] * ScottK certainly doesn't want to support such insanity. [22:04] Do we add any Kubuntu info to http://kde.org/info/4.9.0.php or http://www.kde.org/download/distributions.php ? [22:09] or does thepackages have to move out of backports ? [22:11] Daskreech: we usually do that together with the announcement - and with the packages slightly broken there was none [22:12] How slight? [22:12] wrong lib version in kdelibs requiring a rebuild of several of the other packages [22:13] Ah [22:13] will it be topiced in #kubuntu ? [22:14] * micahg wonders why the new KDE stack didn't go though -proposed [22:18] micahg: hmm that didn't occut to me for some reason, I'm not in the practice yet of using it outside freezes [22:19] micahg: why should it? we're not in soft freeze? [22:19] Still seems like overkill to me. [22:19] wait, we're supposed to use that always now? [22:19] Honestly, if people can't handle a little archive skew, they shouldn't run the devel release, no matter how smooth we try to make it. [22:19] yofel_: for large package collections [22:20] yofel_: Only for things that affect installability of multiple packages. [22:20] ah === yofel_ is now known as yofel [22:20] just something to keep in mind, that stack affects quite a bit [22:21] ScottK: while I agree, that's not the way it's being pushed, so I think we need to tread with more caution to prevent blowing up people's systems (in the end it's their fault, but we can mitigate most of it) [22:21] Oh. Cantor. Now I understand wx. [22:22] micahg: Canonical management insanity is not my responsibility. [22:26] ScottK: it's project wide usage at this point AIUI [22:27] Yes, well, if everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you? [22:28] The development release is for, um, development and $STUFF will happen. [22:28] If you can't managed dealing with that $STUFF, don't run it. [22:40] 10 files changed, 1003 deletions(-) [22:40] that feel [22:41] JontheEchidna: what's that? [22:42] Riddell: I deleted 2 classes that were replaced by some that apol_ wrote [22:42] in Muon [22:42] JontheEchidna: :D [22:42] apol_: ApplicationModel and ApplicationProxyModel are no more [22:43] * apol_ hugs JontheEchidna [22:50] apol_: mind if I disable the role type debug in ResourcesModel? [22:51] JontheEchidna: no problem [22:51] k, cool [22:51] JontheEchidna: do you get a lot of warnings? [22:51] apol_: yeah [22:52] JontheEchidna: maybe we should look into this.... [22:52] apol_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1126111/ [22:53] JontheEchidna: do you get that in discover too? [22:53] apol_: dunno, tons of KNSBackend debug there xD [22:53] yes... I hate that too [22:53] JontheEchidna: I even sent the patch to attica [22:53] to fix that :S [22:53] apol_: no, I don't think I get those warnings in discover [22:54] JontheEchidna: ok then don't remove it and I'll check tomorrow [22:54] ok [22:54] the delegate looks normal, so I don't know what it's trying to get that ResourcesModel can't provide [22:56] apol_: btw, the aptify branch looks good [22:56] yep [22:56] maybe name the class QAptIntegration though? [22:56] JontheEchidna: feel free to change it [22:56] ok [22:57] JontheEchidna: I don't like to stop working when I know what I want to do just because I need to figure out a good name :$ [22:57] ;-) [22:58] apol_: also, I removed the broken Zeitgeist stuff [22:58] JontheEchidna: was it all this broken? [22:58] :P [22:58] i thought it was cool if it worked [22:59] even when it wasn't broken, nothing had zeitgeist integration that could be used [22:59] hm [22:59] ok [22:59] hten [22:59] to test it I had to compile a zeitgeist plugin for kate to use it [22:59] but that was the only thing that I ever had to test it with, lol [22:59] but zeitgeist is a good way to approach gnome :P [23:00] for some reason every app just returns 1 use, even uninstalled apps xD [23:08] hi guys !!! [23:09] hello [23:10] can anyone please help me , trying to build networkmanagement plasmoid but i get the following errors: / [23:10] usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/deprecated/gthread.h:135:3: error: conflicting declaration ‘typedef struct GStaticMutex GStaticMutex’ [23:10] /usr/include/glib-2.0/glibconfig.h:160:30: error: ‘GStaticMutex’ has a previous declaration as ‘typedef struct _GStaticMutex GStaticMutex’ [23:13] DoctorPepper: try running sudo apt-get build-dep networkmanagement [23:13] it should get you all the required build dependencies [23:33] Hi DoctorPepper [23:33] hi === fenris is now known as Guest6988 === Guest6988 is now known as ejat