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[04:31] <robru_> wow, just updated xorg on quantal and everything broke pretty hard. system would just barely boot but gdm wouldn't even come up. ugh.
[04:55] <jbicha> robru_: if you want your development release to not break, don't enable -proposed
[05:42] <robru_> buh, disabled -proposed and downgraded xorg and I still can't get gdm to show
[05:52] <pitti> Good morning
[05:55] <robru_> hey pitti
[06:12] <cyphermox> good morning pitti
[06:14] <cyphermox> I've been hacking some more at the autopkgtests for NM; do you have access to have them run again? The last run didn't get the right version of NM
[06:28] <jasoncwarner_> morning pitti, you back home from GUADEC now?
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[06:41] <mlankhorst> hey
[06:41] <pitti> jasoncwarner_: I am, yes; it was great, see my blog post
[06:41] <pitti> how are you guys?
[06:42] <jasoncwarner_> pitti: good, thanks!
[06:42] <didrocks> good morning
[06:42] <pitti> cyphermox: yeah, I can start them again, running
[06:42] <jasoncwarner_> hey didrocks
[06:42] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, ca va
[06:42] <didrocks> hey jasoncwarner_, guten morgen pitti :)
[06:42] <didrocks> pitti: ça va bien, et toi?
[06:42] <pitti> didrocks: c'est l'heour pour la glace!
[06:43] <didrocks> pitti: how was your flight?
[06:43] <pitti> l'hoeur
[06:43] <didrocks> pas encore l'heure de la glace ;)
[06:43] <pitti> didrocks: rather uneventful
[06:43] <pitti> ah, "l'heure"
[06:43] <pitti> didrocks: your's?
[06:43] <didrocks> got 3 hours of delay (arrived at midnight instead of 9PM) thanks to a late departure to Milan
[06:44] <didrocks> so 11am <-> midnight. Didn't know that spain was so far :)
[06:44] <pitti> urgh
[06:44] <didrocks> at least, jasoncwarner_ should be happy, more time for hacking offline yesterday :p
[06:45] <pitti> yeah, Madrid - Munich was 2:45 hours, too
[06:45] <pitti> didrocks: did you look at bake? I did, it looks really nice
[06:45] <pitti> I have a couple of small bugs to file, but overall this is fantastic
[06:45] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, there are still some work to do on the python side particularly
[06:45] <didrocks> as it only support one version of python
[06:45] <didrocks> so no python/python3
[06:46] <didrocks> also, I don't know, for the "complex" python program, you have the wrapper in bin/ which calls "exec python /usr/share/foo/test1.py"
[06:47] <didrocks> and if test1.py contains print("bar"), the output isn't shown on stdout
[06:47] <didrocks> have to figure out why
[06:49] <didrocks> (also, there are some locale issue, but that's quite minor)
[06:55] <smspillaz> hey hey didrocks
[06:55] <smspillaz> didrocks: mind if I have a chat to you sometime within the next two hours about keybinding intergration ?
[06:56] <didrocks> smspillaz: hey sam! :)
[06:56] <didrocks> smspillaz: sure
[06:56] <didrocks> pitti: which language did you particularly look for bake btw?
[06:56] <smspillaz> I've just been increasing test coverage of the backend in the meantime
[06:57] <pitti> didrocks: umockdev uses C, vala, and some Python
[06:57] <didrocks> smspillaz: excellent :)
[06:57] <didrocks> pitti: don't sure how this will mix with different languages though
[06:57] <didrocks> like, in the same project
[06:58] <pitti> didrocks: so far it's working reasonably well; it doesn't seem to like scripts very much, and I'm figuring out how to link with extra libs, etc. (currently creating a patch)
[06:58] <didrocks> pitti: what's your pick on (apart from python2/python3 issue) only shipping the pyc files?
[06:58] <didrocks> I like it TBH
[06:58] <pitti> yay, my first successful "make test" run in umockdev
[06:58] <didrocks> \o/
[06:59] <pitti> didrocks: nah, should ship the .py as well (or only those)
[06:59] <pitti> shipping .pyc in .debs is a bit of a waste IMHO
[07:00] <didrocks> do we have strong arguments (I can get some for library) but for apps that are installed in /usr/share/<application>/private_lib ?
[07:00] <didrocks> as there is no multi-python version here
[07:00] <didrocks> (trying to see what we should do for Quickly)
[07:00] <smspillaz> didrocks: we're at about 80% coverage now
[07:00] <didrocks> smspillaz: awesome! Nice work man :)
[07:09] <pitti> didrocks: my first bake patch :) bug 1032054
[07:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1032054 in bake "linkflags need an additional space" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032054
[07:11] <didrocks> pitti: congrats \o/
[07:11] <didrocks> I think I'll submit some, like:
[07:11] <didrocks> - python libraries should ship .py files
[07:11] <didrocks> - python program should choose between python2 and python3 at least
[07:13] <pitti> didrocks: did you find out how to install scripts?
[07:14] <pitti> didrocks: i. e. I have an "umockdump" program which is a python script; programs|umockdump|sources = umockdump doesn't work
[07:15] <didrocks> pitti: reading the code, it needs to end with .py
[07:15] <pitti> yeah, I found the smae
[07:15] <pitti> but I don't want these wrappers
[07:15] <didrocks> then, bake is making a wrapper to call the .py
[07:15] <pitti> anyway, I'll use an %install: rule
[07:15] <didrocks> that works as well :)
[07:16] <didrocks> a little bit overkill to have /usr/bin/foo and /usr/share/foo/foo.py in that case, I agree
[07:16] <pitti> and I'd need to hardcode the target path
[07:17] <didrocks> hum, how so? for the install rule?
[07:17] <didrocks> you shouldn't otherwise
[07:17]  * pitti tries with $(binary-directory)
[07:18] <didrocks> ah, for specifying manually
[07:18] <didrocks> yeah, not sure it's available outside of bake's memory
[07:19]  * didrocks finishes catching up emails and will look at why stdout doesn't show for him using the exec wrapper
[07:19] <pitti> didrocks: $(install-directory)/$(binary-directory) works
[07:20] <didrocks> oh interesting
[07:20] <didrocks> that should definitively be in the doc :)
[07:20] <pitti> I'll ask for a |scripts (or just making |sources clever enough)
[07:21] <didrocks> yeah
[07:23] <pitti> didrocks: bug 1032060 has my full rule, in case you need it too
[07:23] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1032060 in bake "Easier installation of scripts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032060
[07:24] <pitti> didrocks: seems Robert is not subscribed to bake bugs :)
[07:24] <didrocks> pitti: thanks for the pointer :)
[07:24] <didrocks> yeah, he knows how to avoid noise :p
[07:24] <chrisccoulson> good morning everyone
[07:24] <didrocks> I'll maybe look at proposing some patches today if I get some time for it :)
[07:24] <didrocks> hey chrisccoulson! how are you?
[07:24] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, tired, how are you? ;)
[07:25] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: tired, but good!
[07:25]  * didrocks grrr at thunderbird which doesn't remember anything I've done offline yesterday
[07:25] <dupondje> Could anyone have a look @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/remmina/+bug/980766 ? And give me an idea where to start looking :)
[07:25] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 980766 in remmina "Remmina fullscreen jumps between workspaces" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[07:25] <didrocks> have to mark as read the emails over again
[07:25] <dupondje> would like to get this fixed
[07:26] <dupondje> didrocks: happens alot :( when you read email/delete it, and then shut it down directly, its also lost most of the times
[07:27] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, yeah, seb has already mentioned this to me :)
[07:27] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, bug 1031261
[07:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1031261 in thunderbird "offline detection doesn't work" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031261
[07:27] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: it's also not easy that you can't save your drafts in that case :)
[07:27] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: thanks for the bug #!
[07:28] <dupondje> chrisccoulson: its not only offline detection imo. When you are online, delete an email, and then shutdown thunderbird, it happens the email is still in inbox after restart
[07:38] <didrocks> ok, have to restart X, seems that I actually don't agree with it on my external display resolution after unplugging/plug in it again
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[07:43] <didrocks> hum, seems it's really stubborn about the supported resolution :/
[07:43] <didrocks> RAOF: any idea how I can get what the monitor is giving to me as supported resolution? ^
[07:44] <didrocks> The EDID in Xorg.0.log is telling me 1024 at the most, but it clearly wasn't the case before, even this morning
[08:04] <pitti> wow, robert_ancell is jumping on those bugs :)
[08:06]  * didrocks just filed bug #1032081
[08:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1032081 in bake "specify which version of python to compile the pyc with for simple/complex python program" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032081
[08:06] <didrocks> let's see how fast he can be :)
[08:06] <didrocks> pitti: I thought you pinged him actually
[08:06] <pitti> no, I didn't; just subscribed him to the bugs
[08:07] <didrocks> ah, let's do that :)
[08:07] <didrocks> ok, after shutting do in g-c-c the monitor and on again
[08:08] <didrocks> I finally got it to my desired resolution
[08:11] <seb128> hey desktopers
[08:11] <didrocks> salut seb128, ça va?
[08:11] <seb128> lut didrocks, ouais, et toi ? bon voyage ?
[08:11] <didrocks> seb128: 3h de retard (donc à la maison passé minuit :/) mais ça va! et toi?
[08:17] <pitti> bonjour seb128, ca va?
[08:18] <pitti> seb128: I officially hate Madrid airport :)
[08:19] <seb128> hey pitti, ca va bien! what happened? did you miss your connection?
[08:19] <pitti> seb128: no, I made it, but it took ages to get to the M area; that's in a different terminal (T4-satellite)
[08:19] <seb128> pitti, the counter on my flight was a bit further on the same direction we walked
[08:19] <seb128> oh
[08:19] <pitti> which didn't have a single place for food
[08:19] <seb128> is that the one you have to take a bus for?
[08:19] <pitti> a train
[08:20] <seb128> oh
[08:20] <pitti> anyway, the actual flight worked fine
[08:20] <didrocks> the bus seems to only be for T1/2/3/4 transition
[08:20] <pitti> seb128: for you as well?
[08:20] <seb128> that's where we took the plane on the way to GUADEC
[08:20] <seb128> yeah, that's an empty area
[08:20] <seb128> nobody there, that's quite different from the crazy main building
[08:21] <seb128> pitti, yeah, perfect, I walked about the same distance we walked together still straight ahead and I was there
[08:21] <seb128> the plane had plenty of room space which was nice for hacking as well
[08:21] <pitti> seb128: did you get to play with bake?
[08:21] <pitti> seb128: robert already merged my first patch, and I filed some three more bugs; it's not quite ready yet for umockdev, but looks really nice
[08:21] <seb128> not so much "played", the fontconfig took me longer that I though, so I just looked at it
[08:22] <seb128> I will try to use it tonight
[08:22] <pitti> it's so much easier and faster than autotools
[08:23]  * pitti hugs seb128, c'est l'heure pour la glace^Whacking!
[08:23] <seb128> lol
[08:23]  * seb128 hugs pitti
[08:23] <didrocks> been 15 minutes I filed a bug and still no answer from robert, slacker! :)
[08:23] <pitti> didrocks: subscribed him?
[08:23] <didrocks> yeah
[08:23] <didrocks> the social experiment failed!
[08:24] <pitti> lol
[08:31] <jasoncwarner_> hey seb128 and didrocks can we combine our 1-1 tonight and have a mumble chat the three of us?
[08:31] <didrocks> sounds good to me :)
[08:31] <jasoncwarner_> or g+ hangout, either works
[08:31] <jasoncwarner_> thanks, didrocks
[08:34] <seb128> jasoncwarner_, wfm
[08:34] <seb128> jasoncwarner_, in 1h right?
[08:34] <jasoncwarner_> thanks, seb128
[08:34] <jasoncwarner_> yeah
[08:34] <jasoncwarner_> that works
[08:34] <Sweetshark> https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/1017125/comments/27 <- *sigh*
[08:34] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1017125 in df-libreoffice "LibreOffice crash in xmloff.Impress.XMLContentImporter::com::sun::star::document::XImporter with gcc-4.7" [Medium,Confirmed]
[08:35] <Sweetshark> ^^ just count the gcc and libreoffice recompiles described in there.
[09:04] <seb128> mlankhorst, RAOF: hey, is there a way to force llvmpipe use on an intel box?
[09:05] <mlankhorst> one of the obscure variables could force it iirc
[09:05] <mlankhorst> think you had to set dri driver or something to it
[09:05] <didrocks> mlankhorst: any chance you have an example, somewhere? :)
[09:05] <didrocks> LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1?
[09:06] <didrocks> seems to be the case
[09:07] <seb128> didrocks, that's the one I found as well on a mint forum
[09:07] <didrocks> seb128: I found it on launchpad and that's a bonus point! :)
[09:07] <seb128> ;-)
[09:08] <mlankhorst> oh it uses a symlink it seems
[09:08] <didrocks> glxgears -info is telling me I'm using llvmpipe
[09:08] <mlankhorst> LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 loads swrest
[09:08] <didrocks> I need to cheat now, on the livecd desactivating the llvmpipe blacklisting
[09:09] <didrocks> and run 3d with this variable
[09:09] <mlankhorst> :)
[09:13] <didrocks> ah, yorba is looking at their bugs :) http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/5609#change-17575
[09:22] <jasoncwarner_> hey didrocks do you know where popey's team is with another unity release before feature freeze?
[09:23] <jasoncwarner_> and popey isn't in this channel? hmmm....
[09:23] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: well, I wasn't here until yesterday. They are struggling right now with the utouch renaming to keep everything building
[09:23] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: popey doesn't seem to be online at all
[09:23] <jasoncwarner_> didrocks: thanks
[09:23] <didrocks> normally he is on that channel
[09:24] <didrocks> sil2100 is though
[09:24] <jasoncwarner_> didrocks: forgot, he is at a sprint
[09:24] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: we made a schedule during our sprint
[09:24] <didrocks> unfortunately, it wasn't respected at all
[09:24] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: I'll ensure (start of next week, quite a lot to catchup here) that they are aligned on a release
[09:25] <jasoncwarner_> thanks
[09:25] <sil2100> jasoncwarner_, didrocks: there was supposed to be a release this week, but it seems we'll be actually releasing it on Monday
[09:25] <sil2100> Since some really nasty problems appeared
[09:26] <jasoncwarner_> sil2100: thanks for the update. all probs with utouch rename sorted?
[09:27] <sil2100> jasoncwarner_: erm, not completely yet ;) It *should* have been sorted out, but the merger fails merging in the switch branch
[09:27] <sil2100> Still waiting for jenkins to give me more info
[09:27] <jasoncwarner_> sil2100: ack. well, two more days in this week ;)
[09:39] <sil2100> didrocks: this is absurd - jenkins fails merging in my branch because of some stupid error that doesn't happen on any of my local builds - both on my chroot and main system
[09:39] <sil2100> didrocks: even when I use unity staging
[09:40] <sil2100> didrocks: AbstractSeparator.h:23:21: fatal error: Nux/Nux.h: No such file or directory
[09:41] <sil2100> didrocks: even though Nux/Nux.h is clearly installed by libnux-3.0-dev from staging (/usr/include/Nux-3.0/Nux/Nux.h)
[09:41] <sil2100> There were never any problems with this
[10:00] <sil2100> didrocks: could you somehow access jenkins and the build tree there to see why it can't find Nux?
[10:01] <seb128> jasoncwarner_, still around?
[10:01] <sil2100> didrocks: since I'm building the same source from basically the same packaging with the same staging ppa and it doesn't fail
[10:01] <jasoncwarner_> seb128: yah
[10:02] <seb128> jasoncwarner_, ->g+
[10:03] <didrocks> seb128: one sec, catching up now that the hangout is ended
[10:03] <didrocks> sil2100: ^
[10:04] <sil2100> didrocks: ok, thanks
[10:04] <sil2100> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/automerge-unity/988/consoleFull <- here is the console output
[10:04] <didrocks> sil2100: hum, isn't mmrazik clearly in charge of the merger now and he has all access?
[10:04] <didrocks> sil2100: did you ask to him?
[10:04] <didrocks> and alan?
[10:04] <sil2100> didrocks: Martin is in the US now...
[10:04] <sil2100> didrocks: so, he won't be around till in 2 hours :(
[10:05] <sil2100> I can wait though
[10:05] <didrocks> sil2100: well, can't this wait 2 hours? if they never do any maintainance, they won't learn
[10:05] <didrocks> and it's not like I have other subjects to move on :)
[10:05] <sil2100> didrocks: true true... I'm just a bit annoyed of all the waiting already, sorry about that then ;p
[10:06] <didrocks> sil2100: well, if your team followed the utouch name change as I suggested, that would have been proactively fixed
[10:06] <sil2100> It's just like, yesterday I had to wait for Adam, now for Martin/Alan - it's like, most of my job is waiting for others! :)
[10:06] <didrocks> instead of waiting 2 days to start fixing it :)
[10:06] <didrocks> no rant, but ensure that the whole team is following the whole PS world
[10:06] <sil2100> I had no idea about the name change happening, I just learned about it when the build failed ;)
[10:06] <didrocks> as it's basically your team group :)
[10:06] <didrocks> so there are some communication failure in PS
[10:06] <didrocks> popey was totally aware
[10:07] <didrocks> and we discussed about it during the london sprint
[10:07] <didrocks> so ensure to get better process for next time within PS :)
[10:07] <sil2100> ACK!
[10:07] <didrocks> sil2100: also, look at the ubuntu upload, you would have notice the nux/unity uploads :)
[10:07] <didrocks> sil2100: you just won some ML subscription it seems ;)
[10:08] <didrocks> sil2100: re on waiting for others -> yeah, it's like that, coordinating if nobody is getting to it ;)
[10:36] <Sweetshark> dear layzirc, can somebody quickly forward me https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-July/035479.html so I can give a threaded reply (I wasnt supsribed to -devel back then)?
[10:39] <seb128> Sweetshark, I guess pitti can thanks to mutt
[10:40] <seb128> chrisccoulson, we need "bounce" in tb ;-)
[10:41] <pitti> I don't keep old mails around :/
[10:42] <pitti> meh, seems our email archive doesn't show the message ID; otherwise you could just craft it with setting In-Reply-To:
[10:47] <Sweetshark> lol at C++ langugae design btw:http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Re-Libreoffice-commits-Revert-quot-sorted-vector-turn-Find-parameter-into-template-quot-td3998918.html
[10:48] <Sweetshark> seb128, pitti: thanks anyway. I gues I will just break threads than ..
[10:48] <soren> Sweetshark: Weird, I don't even have that e-mail.
[10:48] <soren> Sweetshark: Oh, i do. It's in my spam folder. Awesome.
[10:49] <Sweetshark> soren: that will teach doko not to make destructive snipes in his mails ;)
[10:50] <soren> Sweetshark: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1124979/
[10:50] <soren> Whoops, it got cut off.
[10:50] <soren> Weird.
[10:50] <soren> Sweetshark: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1124981/
[10:51] <Sweetshark> soren: thx!
[10:51] <soren> Sweetshark: I hope that's vaguely useful. I'm using GMail, so I don't have a bounce button either.
[11:01] <didrocks> dpm: good morning… ooopss afternoon, around?
[11:01] <dpm> hey didrocks, yeah
[11:02] <didrocks> dpm: do you want to do a quick hangout now/later today to prepare the Quickly hangout later on?
[11:03] <dpm> didrocks, yeah. Let's wait for mhall119 to be online in ~1h or 2, so that we're all in sync. But if you want to hang out before that, it also works for me
[11:03] <didrocks> dpm: no, in 2 hours, it's fine :)
[11:04] <dpm> ok cool. I'll post another reminder of the hangout on the developer blog soon. I wanted to do it this morning, but got caught up in language pack hell :/
[11:05] <didrocks> dpm: well, we can wait a little bit, I'll post again on the Quickly page :)
[11:05] <dpm> cool
[11:06] <dpm> didrocks, let me know when you post it, and I'll share it on the Ubuntu app developers social accounts
[11:07] <Sweetshark> soren: worked (all I need is the In-Reply-To/References fields).
[11:07] <didrocks> dpm: yeah, waiting ~3h for that
[11:09] <dpm> ok
[12:52] <chrisccoulson> gah, i hate EDS
[13:09] <mterry> seb128, so you're on +1 now?
[13:10] <seb128> mterry, hey, I'm supposed to be, in practice I just travelled back from GUADEC yesterday and I'm catching up so I will probably start tomorrow or monday
[13:10] <mterry> seb128, no worries, just giving you a +1 high five  :)
[13:10] <seb128> ;-)
[13:10]  * seb128 ^5 mterry
[13:11] <mterry> heh
[13:11] <seb128> mterry, good to see you back to desktop work, I'm sure we will back on trend in no time ;-)
[13:12]  * mterry goes and postpones all his WI.  Tada!
[13:13] <seb128> lol
[13:14] <seb128> mterry, +1 has its own channel right? how is it called?
[13:14] <mterry> seb128, ubuntu+1-maint
[13:21] <seb128> mterry, thanks
[13:21] <seb128> kenvandine, hey
[13:21] <kenvandine> hey seb128
[13:21] <kenvandine> good trip?
[13:22] <seb128> kenvandine, how are you?
[13:22] <seb128> kenvandine, excellent one, a bit long for an European one (like over 10 hours, 2 planes, 1 train) but good for the most part and I got work done
[13:22] <seb128> kenvandine, I need to reject gnome-control-center-signon
[13:22] <seb128> kenvandine, you don't have a copy of the LGPL in the tarball ... can you fix?
[13:23] <seb128> kenvandine, sorry I forgot to check that the tarballs had the licenses included on the first review round
[13:23] <seb128> kenvandine, need a COPYING.LGPL or such
[13:25] <seb128> didrocks, mterry: the SRU team blocked the quickly SRU on having the fixes uploaded to quantal it seems ... is there any way you could do that?
[13:25] <kenvandine> oh... i thought that was fixed
[13:25] <kenvandine> oh... hehe
[13:25] <kenvandine> we added the new file
[13:25] <kenvandine> but it isn't in the tarball :)
[13:26] <seb128> dist fail?
[13:26] <mterry> seb128, bug number me?  I forget which one is the SRU
[13:27] <seb128> mterry, bug #1021675
[13:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1021675 in quickly "Quickly package replaces all Exec strings in .desktop file, removing Quicklist entries" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1021675
[13:27] <seb128> mterry, well, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quickly/12.04-0ubuntu2
[13:27] <seb128> ups
[13:27] <seb128> mterry, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quickly/12.04-0ubuntu4
[13:27] <seb128> rather
[13:27] <seb128> ScottK reopened the bugs and didn't move the SRU to -updates
[13:29] <kenvandine> seb128, yeah
[13:34] <didrocks> mterry: hey, you are coming to the quickly hangout later today?
[13:34] <mterry> didrocks, wouldn't miss it.  I believe noon my time
[13:36] <didrocks> mterry: good ;)
[13:36] <mterry> didrocks, so was the plan to rapidly make the changes and try to get something for 12.10 or is this longer term thinking?
[13:36] <mterry> Or should I save such questions for the hangout?  :)
[13:36] <didrocks> mterry: longer term, 12.10 is out of scope for this :)
[13:37] <mterry> didrocks, good.  :)
[13:37] <didrocks> mterry: no no, this hangout will give a short presentation about what it is, but mostly getting dev feedback
[13:37] <didrocks> mterry: that will help shaping up more concise and targeted hangouts next week
[13:37]  * mterry has feedback prepared
[13:38] <didrocks> you mean, a shield? ;)
[13:39] <kenvandine> seb128, gnome-control-center-signon uploaded again
[13:41] <mterry> :)
[14:09] <dpm> didrocks, up for a hangout?
[14:09] <didrocks> dpm: 10 min
[14:09] <dpm> sure, just pinging mhall119 right now
[14:20] <seb128> pitti, what's the tool you usually use to diff what takes places on isos?
[14:23] <pitti> seb128: /home/cdimage/iso-deb-size-compare on nusakan
[14:23] <seb128> pitti, thanks
[14:24] <pitti> seb128: it only works on alternate images, though
[14:33] <dpm> didrocks, ready? mhall119 an I have another call in ~30 mins, so if we could squeeze it before that, that'd be great
[14:34] <didrocks> dpm: sure, coming, did you opened a hangout?
[14:34] <didrocks> open*
[14:34] <dpm> didrocks, not yet, but can do :)
[14:35] <didrocks> :)
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[16:10] <Sweetshark> micahg: around?
[16:10] <micahg> Sweetshark: yes
[16:13] <Sweetshark> micahg: oh cool. I just wanted to finish the discussion about quantal-proposed we had some time ago (which aborted as I left for the evening). You were right about the "different arch finishing at different times/or one arch break" point.
[16:13] <Sweetshark> so mea cupla there, I guess ;)
[16:15] <micahg> Sweetshark: okay :)
[16:17] <micahg> we happen to be discussing that in -release ATM since libexttextcat should've gone to -proposed instead of release since it had a SONAME bump that for some reason made libreoffice uninstallable, so in this case, since it's already uninstallable, the release pocket would've been better
[16:18] <micahg> FWIW, that some reason is the unversioned data package with an = relationship
[16:19] <micahg> seb128: FYI^^
[16:22] <seb128> micahg, yeah, I saw that
[16:28] <seb128> mterry, mterry_: do you think you would have time to have a look at bug #969359 today or tomorrow to see how hard of a bug it is?
[16:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 969359 in gnome-settings-daemon "[keyboard]: gnome-settings-daemon consumes 100% cpu (and blinking numlock)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/969359
[16:29] <mterry_> seb128, yeah I could look
[16:29] <seb128> seems xorg, g-s-d fighting over numlock status
[16:29] <seb128> it's easy to trigger it seems
[16:30] <seb128> mterry_, I got it sometimes when docking,undocking or when connecting to my box with vnc
[16:30] <mterry_> hmm, k
[16:33] <Sweetshark> micahg: well, I was urgently asked if I had a libreoffice package in the pipe and was in a libreoffice engineering steering committee (discussing just that release)  call at that time ;)
[16:33] <Sweetshark> micahg: so clone me or find me some more people for libreoffice ;)
[16:35] <micahg> Sweetshark: heh, I'd like to be cloned myself
[16:53] <OOooOOooO> hey folks. Got banshee open, trying to fix metadata with it. I have a list of artist names that should be merged but nfi how to make it actualy do it
[16:53] <OOooOOooO> I have a "close" button, also "refresh" and a volume control
[16:54] <OOooOOooO> none (heh yes I did even try clicking the volume control) actually applies any changes
[16:54] <seb128> OOooOOooO, hi, try #ubuntu for user questions
[16:55] <OOooOOooO> hrm, I see from the screenie my banshee instance has crashed
[16:55] <OOooOOooO> there is blankness and some artifact where the buttons should be. OK - nvm. Thanks for your time, seb128
[16:55] <OOooOOooO> cya :)
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