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armaanhow can i kill nohup jobs00:28
patdk-lapsame way you kill any other job00:47
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armaanpatdk-lap: is there any way to do it automatically. i need to do it for testing purpose00:51
patdk-lapthere is nothing different about nohup, and anything else00:52
patdk-lapso whatever you *normally* use, will work00:52
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osmosishow do I get more info on a package from apt-cache before I install it?03:02
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lifelessstatik: o/03:17
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JonEdneyHey, any way to remove Java from 12.04 server? "Virtual packages like 'sun-java6-jre' can't be removed"03:36
qman__dpkg -l | grep jre03:37
qman__dpkg -l | grep java03:37
qman__then apt-get remove those03:37
JonEdneyAh, wasn't aware that's how it worked, interesting.03:38
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thisismynamehi guys, i got the following problem: my postgres database server is only using one cpu, even with multiple connections07:12
thisismynameusing ubuntu 12.04 vanilla kernel07:14
overriderHow can i go about monitoring about 50 ppp interfaces created by pptp users that dial in; id like to perform some traffic accounting. Is there any sensible way to combine those interfaces into 1 single interface for me to do my bandwith / netflow monitoring on?07:33
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greppyoverrider: MRTG can do aggregate data07:48
greppyyou can tell it to graph the data from all the interfaces.07:48
_rubenoverrider: could do with a netfilter based accounting setup hooked into the filter/FORWARD chain for instance, it could make use of ppp+ as in/out interface. etc07:51
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overriderill look at netfilter and mrtg - trouble with mrtg is that the interfaces come and go as they please, based on user login or logout, not sure how that gets handled. Thanks though09:07
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BuenGeniohello10:12
BuenGeniohow do I get openvpn client to connect without asking for username & password?10:12
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1032133 in samba "smbclient fails if server does not support Echo request (eg. Time Capsule)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103213311:06
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RoyKBuenGenio: isn't that a bit like installing a new and fancy lock on your house and then glueing the key into the lock?11:26
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greppyRoyK: depends on your setup.11:27
RoyKAFAGCT, there are separate builds for that http://www.acevpn.com/2009/12/07/openvpn-build-with-save-password-enabled/11:28
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zulgood morning12:05
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lynxmanzul: morning!12:42
zullynxman: slacker12:42
lynxmanzul: :D12:53
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1032180 in maas (main) "maas ip change via sudo dpkg-reconfigure maas fails to completely reconfigure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103218013:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #1032181 in lm-sensors (main) "sensord fail to create correct RRD file when loadavg requested" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103218113:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #1032183 in maas (main) "maas commission repository mirror" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103218313:31
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roaksoaxlamont: howdy! I was wondering if bind9 supports conf.d by default, or if it would be a nice thing to have it do13:58
roaksoaxlamont: the issue is basically this: 1. MAAS installs and creates dir /etc/bind/maas. 2. Adds an include line to 'named.conf.local'.14:01
roaksoaxlamont: so concern1: then if I remove MAAS (not purge), files will be left in /etc/bind/maas. Then if I purge bind9, it wont remove /etc/bind because  /etc/bind/maas exists14:02
roaksoaxlamont: concern2: If I upgrade bind9, I'm presumming dpkg will detect that named.conf.local has differed, and will offer to overwrite it. If that happen then MAAS config will not be accessible14:03
ironmhello. in case anyone (! erkules)  is interested: http://rsync.it-infrastrukturen.org/public-mariadb/ubuntu/.tmp/README.mysqld_multi_install_concepts.txt / http://rsync.it-infrastrukturen.org/public-mariadb/ubuntu/mysqld_multi_install_db_voip_files.tgz14:41
ironmthank you in advance for *any" feedback14:41
lamontroaksoax: 1) dunno.  2) I'm very reluctant to deviate from upsteam wrt configuration file directivces.15:05
roaksoaxlamont: i see, do you have any recommendation on how to handle the case above though?15:07
lamontbind has a history of not actually purging itself all the way, largely because of the package name change between bind and bind915:09
lamontwhich I expect to recreate for bind10 :(15:10
lamontwhat is maas doing that it wants to add files to the bind config (as opposed to replacing them wholesale)?15:10
roaksoaxlamont: yes, so basically create /etc/bind/maas and place everything under it15:11
roaksoaxlamont: and add an include on /etc/bind/named.conf.local15:12
roaksoaxthat includes above directory15:12
lamontyes, but WHAT is it doing that it needs to add files?15:12
lamontgratuitously adding a subdirectory for something that you're configuring completely strikes me as just silly15:13
roaksoaxlamont: it will be used as the DNS server for the MAAS client machines15:13
roaksoaxrvba: ^^15:13
roaksoaxlamont: so it is the MAAS DNS server instead of having an external DNS15:14
lamontso is this the maas server install, and wanting to interoperate with the admin's previously-configured bind9 install?15:14
lamonts/interoperate/not trash/15:14
roaksoaxlamont: yes15:14
lamontso s/instead of/in addition to/15:14
roaksoaxlamont: yes, so in cases where in the local network there's no DNS (which is needed by juju), then MAAS would be the DNS15:15
roaksoaxlamont: so it is just part of the replacement of cobbler handling DNS/DHCP15:15
roaksoaxlamont: so, that being said, do you think it would be better approach to simply replace named.conf instead of includding config files?15:17
lamontI'm going to guess that your admin will want to be involved in a number of decisions about what address blocks and what bogus-TLD/real-suffix is being used for maas, and even after ripping maas out of the server... how much automation are you expecting to do?15:25
roaksoaxlamont: well obviously ripping it out would mean leaving this usable15:28
roaksoaxrvba: ^^15:28
rvbaotp15:28
lamontroaksoax: replacing the files in /etc/bind with the maas stuff may be the simplest.  There are policy issues with package B modifying package A's conffiles directly, which you're stuck facing no matter how you go about it. (the policy compliant way to solve it is to provide me some code for the bind9 package to add/remove zones from the config, which maas-server would then call to make the mods15:37
roaksoaxlamont: i see. Thanks for the input. I'll run this with the MAAS team.15:40
lamontroaksoax: there is some stuff inthe postfix stack that does just that, fwiw15:42
lamont(modifying postfix config, totally separate from anything to do with bind9)15:42
roaksoaxlamont: ok cool, I'll look into that. Thanks again :)15:43
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DavieyAnyone have the exact size of a default ubuntu server 12.04 to hand?16:52
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patdk-wkDaviey, I have 963megs16:59
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Davieypatdk-wk: vanilla cd install?17:03
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patdk-wkdaviey, yep, 64bit, using last alpha17:09
Almindorhgello17:10
Davieypatdk-wk: thanks17:10
Almindoris there a known bug with IO operations/copying on 10.04 LTS? (probably kernel bug with scheduler/IO)17:10
AlmindorI was copying ~300gb (normal cp command) and then I tried to install one small python module from apt-get and it stalled on "unpacking" until the CP was done17:11
Almindornode that the copy was disk to different disk and the python module installs to a 3rd disk17:11
patdk-wkyour using lvm/dmraid/...?17:11
AlmindorI'm not using raid on any of the 2 disks being copied from/to17:12
patdk-wkare any of the *devices* under /dev/mapper?17:13
Almindorpatdk-wk: the main disk (the one python module was installing to) is17:13
patdk-wknot sure then17:14
patdk-wkI know when writing to one, it will completely hog the system, haven't tried it on newer kernels17:14
Almindorhmm17:15
Almindorso there's a mapper bug in this kernel?17:15
patdk-wkno one said it was a bug17:15
Almindorwell the "main" drive is actually two 500gb ones mapped (from what I can say, I didn't set this up)17:16
Almindorbut the secondary drives are all direct mounts via fstab17:16
patdk-wkworks, and works optimally, and works without affecting others, so many different levels, that don't even account for bugs17:16
Almindorsorry but a cp command blocking other io operations is a major kernel bug17:16
patdk-wkif that is the case17:17
Almindorit's like back to DOS :)17:17
patdk-wkatlesat in my cases, it didn't block, but it did bring it to a crawl17:17
Almindorwell I was installing python-argparse (few kb size) and it stopped on unpacking until the whole 300gb copy was done (about an hour IIRC)17:18
Almindorso I think that's less than a crawl17:18
patdk-wkan hour for 300gigs?17:18
Almindorit was started in the middle17:18
patdk-wkstill, horrible slow performance there17:18
patdk-wkah, from single disks17:19
patdk-wkI'm too used to using 20+ disk arrays17:19
Almindor:)17:20
Almindorthis one only has 4 :D17:20
MoleManwhere is the system bash config stored?17:20
patdk-wkbash has a config?17:21
patdk-wkyou know the system doesn't *normally* use bash right?17:21
* MoleMan starts thinking17:21
patdk-wkit uses dash, unless you explicitally tell it to use bash17:22
patdk-wkif there was a bash config, it would be the bash startup file, /etc/bashrc17:23
MoleManall the users are set to use /bin/bash    in /etc/passwd and I've not set that... unless I'm getting confused somewhere?17:23
patdk-wkoh, /etc/bash.bashrc17:23
patdk-wk(was actually on a redhat system, one of the 3 I have to deal with)17:24
MoleManthanks :)17:24
LoTSpamapS: question for you, if you're alive.17:26
MoleManpatdk-wk: do you know where the user specific config is as well pleasE?17:26
patdk-wkin the users home folder17:27
SpamapSLoT: whats up?17:27
LoTjust a small question... not sponsorship related but directly related to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/php5/+bug/101404417:28
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1014044 in php5 "PHP5-FPM not reporting errors to web server (nginx)" [Medium,In progress]17:28
LoTshouldnt that be a crit one?  i was reading through the bugs triage guide, it said regressions should be crit17:28
LoTunless i'm misreading it :/17:28
MoleManpatdk-wk: strange, I can't find it but am sure I have used it before :/17:29
patdk-wkit should make it in your folder17:29
LoTwait, might've had an older version up :P17:29
patdk-wk.bashrc17:30
MoleManonly thing there is .bash_history :/17:30
MoleManuuunless... maybe it was my netbook I've changed it on before not my server :/17:31
patdk-wkI haven't changed it, it was *installed* there by default for me17:31
patdk-wkmaybe when yo uadded users you didn't tell it to use the template17:31
LoTSpamapS: nevermind, my browser had an (old) triage guide cached17:32
LoTso apparently the thing was showing me ancient data17:32
* LoT cleared the cache and saw that there was no such requirement for regressions17:32
LoTalthough this one probably needs regression tagging17:32
SpamapSLoT: huh?17:33
LoTSpamapS: nevermind.17:33
LoTSpamapS: although i will poke you about the sponsoring of that debdiff, there's 6 groups using webhosting and the error logs arent useful because of php not reporing.17:34
* LoT has his own motivations for poking the debdiff on LP Bug 1014044 into precise17:34
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1014044 in php5 "PHP5-FPM not reporting errors to web server (nginx)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101404417:34
SpamapSLoT: patience. There are many sponsors, and only one of me. ;)17:35
LoT:P17:35
LoTpatience is hard when you've got ISOs for each group contacting you daily saying "What's up with it not reporting"17:36
LoTthey keep thinking its hacks, i say "I don't know, there's a PHP regression"17:36
SpamapSLoT: indeed, the fix will get out to them soon. :)17:37
LoTthat's what I said17:37
LoTguess what, they dont listen :/17:37
* LoT is not pleased17:37
LoTperhaps i should email the sponsors mailing list, poking them saying "This needs processing"?17:37
LoT(probably not, but...)17:37
* LoT does have horrible impatience when being poked via email daily :/17:38
LoTactually, wait, i have a PPA i can use for this until it shows up in -updates xD17:41
zuladam_g: so we need to transition glance-client to python-glanceclient in the debian packaging fyi18:13
adam_gzul: yes18:13
adam_gzul: the thing is, python-glanceclient completely broke the user interface from the original glance client18:13
zulyeah18:13
adam_gso doing so is going to break anyones scripts/configuration managemenet/charms/etc18:14
adam_gi have a half-done patch i want to get upstream that provides a compatability layer18:14
zulcool beans18:14
zulglanceclient is in main by the way so i just did the recommndes: from glance-client to python-glanceclient, when you compat layer gets in we will do a dummy transitional package in python-glanceclient18:15
adam_gzul: what about dropping glance-client entirely?18:16
adam_gzul: oh18:16
adam_gi think the original client will disappear from the glance source at some point in the future18:16
zuladam_g: glance-client will be dropped in gaglance18:16
zuladam_g: right18:16
uvirtbotNew bug: #1032322 in partman-auto (main) "Swap space allocation for large memory systems needs improvement" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103232218:17
adam_gzul: where are you committing this stufF? i have a bug number that can be added18:17
zuladam_g: openstack-ubuntu-testing branches18:18
adam_gzul: lemme know when you've pushed it there18:18
zuladam_g: done18:18
MoleManI'm probably being stupid here, but I'm trying to create a symlink and it won't work, the command I'm using is 'ln -s Dropbox/schematics MC-Chocobo/plugins/WorldEdit/schematics'18:28
MoleManwell it appears to be trying to make it but not doing what I expect, if I try to list the contents of the symlink it says that it is not a directory, how do I create a symlink to a folder?@18:30
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MoleManwhat do I need to do to get a symlink to a folder to work properly? it is currently refusing to acknowlege it is a folder and list from it...  the command I'm using is 'ln -s Dropbox/schematics/ MC-Chocobo/plugins/WorldEdit/schematics'18:46
MoleManoops18:46
r3dLunchb0xanyone successfully setup up email alerts with nagios on ubuntu server 11.04? I have an issue where the email gets sent BUT it is using the wrong host name. I have checked all config files for nagios that even mention the host name and still it sends as wrong hostname.19:12
SpamapSHm, Ubuntu cloud mirror in us-west-1 going sllllooww..19:19
SpamapS87% [28 Packages bzip2 0 B] [34 Translation-en 372 kB/3341 kB 11%]                                                   3823 B/s 12min 56s19:19
DavieySpamapS: nothin' we can do about that.. i think you want to speak to IS :)19:20
SpamapSisn't it S3?19:20
DavieySpamapS: haven't we handed it over?19:27
Davieyarosales ^ ?19:28
SpamapSDaviey: yes, I'm just surprised S3 would go so slowly19:28
SpamapSof course, now its going afaster19:28
SpamapS16% [65 wget 0 B/277 kB 0%]                                                                                          2352 kB/s 1min 16s19:28
smoserSpamapS,19:34
smoserhttp://pad.lv/96657719:34
smoserthat is milestoned for 12.04.1 (by you on july 12). is that going to get there by next week?19:35
SpamapSsmoser: "maybe" :-P19:35
smoserok. then i leave that to you, and will forward on a very strong maybe19:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #975473 in maas "eliminate cobbler code copy" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97547319:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #1032339 in mysql-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.63-0ubuntu0.11.04.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103233919:36
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smoserstgraber, ping19:52
arosalesDaviey: sorry, afk for some lunch. But, yes as SpamapS said, IS is now handling the S3 mirrors.19:52
SpamapSthanks guys, I was just making a comment19:54
SpamapSnot a support request :)19:54
smoserwhy is on 850443 http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html . is it solely the rls-p-tracking? is it appropriate for me to just take that off ?19:54
* ScottK demands support for SpamapS .19:54
bladernr_hey, just out of curiosity, on a default Ubuntu Server install, is there a dbus method for getting info on network devices ( like driver and such)?  We can do it when NetworkManager exists, but that's not installed on server.19:55
stgrabersmoser: pong19:55
smoser^19:55
SpamapSbladernr_: not that I know of.19:57
bladernr_SpamapS: that's what I thought, just wanted to verify with someone... not a big deal, just an idea I had19:57
bladernr_thanks!19:57
smoserSpamapS, are you oging to do 945176 by next thursday?20:06
SpamapSsmoser: that, and the other one, are on my list to try and knock out by Monday. So, maybe again. :)20:07
smoserSpamapS, deal.20:07
smoseri promise no more nagging for at least 24 hours.20:07
* SpamapS tags smoser with 'geek-stop-nagging'20:09
DavieySpamapS: arosales has us mixed up :)20:10
arosalesDaviey: ah, SpamapS had the initial comment20:18
* arosales should read the back scroll a little closer20:18
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CombatjuanCan anyone suggest a way to determine the age of a particular network connection?  (in particular this connection goes through stunnel).  Bonus points if you can say when was the last time it was used.20:43
dannfCombatjuan: ps -eo etime $(pidof stunnel) ?20:54
Combatjuandannf: Well, that did something... and it involved times.  I'll have to read a bit before I understand it.  Thanks.20:55
dannf'ps -eo cmd,etime | grep stunnel' maybe20:56
Combatjuandannf: It shows me the times, but not of what.  I guess I need another column containing the FD?20:57
dannfits the elapsed time the process has been running20:58
dannfassuming the stunnel process is running for one connection only (i don't know if multiplexing is possible - if so, this doesn't help)20:59
Combatjuandannf: The stunnel process hold 500 connections.  Well, almost.20:59
CombatjuanI was hoping I could look at the mtimes on their file descriptors or something, or maybe use netstat to tell me age...  Presumably there is a way.21:00
CombatjuanAnyway, I'm looking for the age of the individual socket connections that stunnel is holding.  I need to cause some of them to idleout early.21:00
phillwHi guys, re: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12146694#post12146694 should I just reboot the crippled VM so as to get it resonable service for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Thomas%20Ward ?21:07
phillwyou guys know servers, this is an unhappy one21:07
phillwoh, sod it... if it is dying continously I'll reboot it.21:08
phillwznc @ trekweb is going down for a reboot.21:08
phillwthe VNC server has its owner now back in charge.21:19
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AlphaWolfI am running Plex Media Server, but I can't get it to read one of my folders, and I think it's a permissions issue. The information from "ls -l" is as follows: Folder it can't read "drwxrwxr-- 1 joseph plugdev 24576 Aug  2 23:26 GeneralMedia", folder it can read "drwxrwxr-x 1 joseph      99    14 Aug  2 23:29 TimeMachine". I'm guessing it's the "x" at the end (which is other execute? so anyone can execute?), but running "22:34
AlphaWolfchmod o+x GeneralMedia" does not change anything. One other note: GeneralMedia is an NTFS partition, whilst TimeMachine is a HFS+ partition.22:34
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TakyojiIs it sane to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04, rather than waiting a few days for 12.04.1?23:14
smw_workTakyoji, by "upgrade" you mean clean install?23:19
Takyojido-release-upgrade, specifically.23:19
smw_workTakyoji, not sure I would do that on a server...23:19
TakyojiWebserver23:19
smw_workI would not trust it...23:20
smw_workbut whatever. I see no difference in waiting vs not waiting23:20
smw_work12.04.1 is just a snapshot in time23:21
smw_workTakyoji, so I do not see how waiting a few days would change anything.23:21
Takyojiit's just that it was stated in the documentation "It is generally recommended that users of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS wait until the first point release, due in July, before upgrading."23:21
TakyojiWell, with Linode, I suppose I'll start a new instance, copy things over, then swap IPs over23:28
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