[00:02] <exutux> hey guys do you remember where is screenseaver satting on unity 12.04? I cannot find it...maybe I'm well done
[00:02] <exutux> setting*
[00:03] <L3top> brontosaurusrex: 3 cameras 5 audio sources... sorry
[00:03] <ki4ro_> exutux: Don't believe there is a screensaver in 12.04
[00:03] <exutux> ki4ro_: why I have a gnome-screesaver enabled then?
[00:03] <brontosaurusrex> L3top, kdenlive?
[00:03] <PlowRox> you can randomly change the desktop pics tho
[00:04] <L3top> I started on kdenlive, and finished in cinelerra I believe... it was one project a while ago... the particulars are escaping me.
[00:04] <lenny__> did the gnome team remove the screensaver setting too?
[00:04] <ki4ro_> exutux: Have a look here:  http://www.howtogeek.com/114027/how-to-add-screensavers-to-ubuntu-12.04/
[00:05] <exutux> ki4ro_: maybe some package that I've installed get it like dependencie
[00:05] <exutux> ki4ro_: I don't want add it, I want to disable black screen after some minutes...
[00:05] <exutux> so I'll try to unistall gnome-screensaver then
[00:05] <lenny__> I see. The gnome team though that selecting the kind of screen saver was too complicated for the user
[00:06] <lenny__> and so they yanked all out
[00:06] <ki4ro_> exutux: Look in power settings
[00:06] <oblenis> how to I get Bell's 4g mobile internet stick working? I went in to mobile broadband and setup and saved and restarted and it is showing a connection on the stick but not feeding it through
[00:07] <exutux> I've looked it and it's all disabled... :) I killed and uninstalled gnome-scresaver
[00:07] <oblenis> ideas anyone?
[00:07] <lenny__> is the stick sticked in properly^
[00:07] <oblenis> lenny__, yes blinking blue
[00:07] <exutux> will see what happens, so thanks ki4ro_
[00:07] <ki4ro_> exutux: You're welcome, good luck
[00:08] <soulstitchmmo> is there a sudo logout command? (Well an equivalent)
[00:08] <exutux> soulstitchmmo: ?
[00:08] <soulstitchmmo> well I can sudo reboot to reboot
[00:08] <exutux> what do you mean?
[00:08] <soulstitchmmo> is there a sudo logout?
[00:09] <oblenis> any other ideas lenny__
[00:09] <lenny__> not really because I've never used broadband thingies but I guess you can look in the usual places
[00:10] <lenny__> like open a terminal and type dmesg
[00:10] <ns_nazri> check lsusb
[00:10] <lenny__> then unstick the stick, wait a while, re-stickk the stick
[00:10] <lenny__> then dmesg again and see if anything you can read is an error message
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> Praxi: np dude, great first step if sound goes screwy
[00:10] <ns_nazri> check your device
[00:11] <lenny__> but the blue light surely indicates proper sticking in, so that might not be the issue
[00:12] <W4sp> exutux: you can disable the gnome screensaver with gnome-screensaver-command -d
[00:12] <exutux> W4sp: I've uninstalled it... but thanks
[00:12] <xpistos> can I upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and then to 12.04?
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> xpistos: absolutely
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> xpistos: tha's the way you would get to Precise from Natty without a clean install
[00:13] <xpistos> When I try to upgrade to 11.10 it says the my third party entrioes are disabled but when I look it is checked.
[00:14] <oblenis> when using dmesg what am I looking for?
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> xpistos: disable all PPAs you have added, it can help
[00:15] <lenny__> oblenis: do this: reboot the system without the stick inserted, then insert it and look at the last messages
[00:15] <lenny__> with dmesg
[00:16] <oblenis> ok lenny__  I'll be back
[00:16] <xpistos> ActionParsnip: should I uncheck everything in Other Software?
[00:18] <Crawford> I am having a little bit of bother with my sound, sometimes when I boot to ubuntu the volume is so low I can barely hear it other times it is perfect... I have already checked alsamixer for muted or low channels and there seems to be no difference between when volume is very quite or normal
[00:19] <oblenis> lenny__,  no go not showing up still, but get the blue lights
[00:19] <lenny__> look at the dmesg output. now the last messages should belong to the stick
[00:20] <ns_nazri> oblenis:check lsusb
[00:20] <ns_nazri> first
[00:20] <lenny__> if you see something suspicious ask or google
[00:20] <elfMobile> so I used kdenlive.... it does what I want.  I just tested it with 3 little clips.... but I can't output H.264.  Any idea what package I need to install?
[00:20] <oblenis> lsusb how far on the list is it?
[00:20] <lenny__> lsusb is a command
[00:20] <brontosaurusrex> elfMobile, ffmpeg ?
[00:21] <lenny__> it shows you the usb connections but I don't think it's going to be useful to you
[00:21] <ns_nazri> ok go networking manager
[00:21] <oblenis> it shows the device in lsusb ns_nazri
[00:21] <elfMobile> brontosaurusrex: already have ffmpeg installed
[00:21] <lenny__> what you're looking for should be some error messages near the end of dmesg
[00:21] <oblenis> dmesg had no errors
[00:21] <lenny__> that is, if you inserted the stick last after the reboot
[00:21] <brontosaurusrex> ehm, from memory (but it was some time ago): when you save project with kdenlive
[00:21] <lenny__> can you see the device being inserted?
[00:22] <ns_nazri> oblenis: go networking manager
[00:22] <ns_nazri> and setting
[00:22] <oblenis> ns_ ok then
[00:22] <brontosaurusrex> its EDL is actually a script ..., and i think i piped that to custom ffmpeg command line ..
[00:22] <lenny__> yeah do the networking manager too
[00:22] <brontosaurusrex> but i dont recall details
[00:23] <lenny__> maybe you just have to type in a password or something
[00:23] <brontosaurusrex> elfMobile, basically someplayer thatscript pipe ffmpeg some commands
[00:23] <oblenis> I asked bell no user or pass req'd
[00:24] <lenny__> so maybe you have to set the default route to it?
[00:24] <oblenis> ns_nazri, am I looking for something specific in settings?
[00:24] <oblenis> default route?
[00:24] <oblenis> kinda noob to using the sticks with linux
[00:24] <lenny__> it's the setting that chooses what device is used as output
[00:25] <freedom_> ok my fellow linux users..i got a problem and i am pretty sure someone can help me out in this room..my room mate got a laptop with ubuntu 12.04 on it..his signal keeps dropping and has to restart his computer to get back on the internet.Goes down like every 30 minutes..give or take.any suggestions ?
[00:25] <ns_nazri> Select the Mobile Broadband tab.
[00:25] <oblenis> ns_nazri,  ok there now
[00:25] <ns_nazri> Click Add
[00:25] <oblenis> ok
[00:26] <oblenis> does it make a difference if the stick is for 4g network?
[00:26] <lenny__> freedom_: I don't know but it seems one of those things that go away after a kernel upgrade or two or a kernel downgrade
[00:26] <ns_nazri> try connect first
[00:27] <freedom_> ok
[00:27] <freedom_> thanks
[00:27] <lenny__> like, try an earlier disto
[00:27] <brontosaurusrex> lenny__, how about wicd?
[00:27] <lenny__> just with the live cd and see if it's better/worse
[00:27] <W4sp> freedom_ : this might be related to power management?
[00:28] <MrUnagi> how can i kill the default dm
[00:29] <QubitSmuggler> killall (prgram)
[00:29] <armaan> how can i kill nohup jobs
[00:29] <MrUnagi> what is the name of the desktop manager
[00:29] <DeltaHeavyz> MrUnagi: /etc/init.d/gdm stop     I think there's a better way to do it
[00:29] <soulstitchmmo> I have 58.57gb of unallocated hd space, I can add it to my windows partition, but can't add it to my ubuntu partition, how do I fix this?
[00:29] <MrUnagi> i thought they stopped using gome
[00:29] <MrUnagi> ultimately I'm trying to force a resolution
[00:30] <DeltaHeavyz> MrUnagi: GDM != GNOME. GDM is what's over top of 'X' and below things like GNOME and Unity
[00:30] <armaan> how can i kill nohup jobs ???
[00:30] <DeltaHeavyz> IIRC
[00:30] <lenny__> GDM is gnome
[00:30] <DeltaHeavyz> armaan: ps -A | grep nohup
[00:30] <DeltaHeavyz> kill <pid>
[00:30] <lenny__> like, GDM is 100% gnome
[00:30] <MrUnagi> how do i stop unity
[00:30] <MrUnagi> nm ill google
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: do you not want to use Unity?
[00:31] <lenny__> I would like to know how to stop Unity too
[00:31] <MrUnagi> I'm trying to force a resolution
[00:31] <lenny__> like forever
[00:31] <DeltaHeavyz> lenny__: Sort of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Display_Manager
[00:31] <DeltaHeavyz> Two links there
[00:31] <DeltaHeavyz> Unity uses GDM
[00:31] <lenny__> it's along story but basically GDM loads a full gnome session reagrdless
[00:31] <jremyd> !rules
[00:31] <brontosaurusrex> lenny__, some other flavor of buntu or change distro perhaps
[00:32] <exutux> DeltaHeavyz: lightdm
[00:32] <ns_nazri> go the menu of, go networking symbol and click connect
[00:32] <elfMobile> brontosaurusrex: hmm... I saw the script output option.... but the script just calls a render program..... it doesn't seem to be using pipes
[00:32] <DeltaHeavyz> exutux: What about lightdm?
[00:32] <Crawford> Could anyone help me solve low audio volume
[00:32] <exutux> !info lightdm | DeltaHeavyz
[00:32] <lenny__> because if you don't let GDM load a full gnome session you hate handicapped people. Lennart Poettering said that
[00:32] <ns_nazri> oblenis: go the menu of, go networking symbol and click connect
[00:32] <brontosaurusrex> elfMobile, the easy way to export to something uncompressed and then use ffmpeg on that
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> Crawford: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[00:33] <lenny__> if you want the video link on youtube I'll post it
[00:33] <Crawford> !audio > Crawford
[00:33] <brontosaurusrex> +is
[00:33] <Crawford> ActionParsnip, just a moment :-)
[00:33] <oblenis> ns_ thats whats weird, when I set it up and finalize it, it does not list it under the networks
[00:33] <DeltaHeavyz> I'm lost here. Anyway I havn't had to do this kind of stuff recently but when I last did it it was 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[00:33] <ns_nazri> oblenis: you must try again and again
[00:33] <Crawford> ActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7d6100747af920b65e0e85d7f47c4b6750b65e0a
[00:34] <W4sp> DealtaHeavyz: gdm is the display manager that provides you with a screen to enter the login credentials and offers you a choice of desktop manager to select prior login.
[00:34] <oblenis> ns_ is this a defect?
[00:34] <exutux> DeltaHeavyz: 12.04?
[00:34] <lenny__> look, you can say waht you want but if Leannrst says something that's it
[00:34] <elfMobile> brontosaurusrex: ouch... I have the space so why not ;-)
[00:34] <lenny__> we're nobody to argue with Lennart
[00:34] <exutux> DeltaHeavyz: precise uses lightdm by default
[00:34] <Crawford> ActionParsnip, Sometimes it is fine when I boot up then other times it is so low I can barely hear it
[00:35] <ns_nazri> oblenis: what mean defect
[00:35] <lenny__> W4sp: the problem is that to do that it has to load a full gnome session
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Crawford: if you run:  alsamixer   are all the levels maxed and unmuted?
[00:35] <brontosaurusrex> elfMobile, thats dumbproof method, also people always want some weird formats at the end, so you can always just take that fat master
[00:35] <Crawford> ActionParsnip, Almost all of them
[00:35] <brontosaurusrex> without going back into editor
[00:35] <Crawford> ActionParsnip, some I wonder if they need maxed
[00:35] <W4sp> DeltaHeavyz: You also do not 'kill' a dm, you usually restart it. If you want to end up in a text mode after boot you need to disable gdm.
[00:36] <elfMobile> brontosaurusrex: what is a good uncompressed format?
[00:36] <elfMobile> I see Raw DV, is that uncompressed?
[00:36] <lenny__> if you have pulseaudio enabled (you probably do) you can't use alsamixer
[00:36] <brontosaurusrex> elfMobile, what options do you have? fv1?
[00:36] <Crawford> ActionParsnip, Also when it is being low it has only one channel to work with which cannot move
[00:36] <lenny__> you have to use PaVu whatever it's called
[00:37] <brontosaurusrex> elfMobile, dnxhd might be good intermediate as well
[00:37] <exutux> W4sp: or set text option in grub2
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> lenny__: you can, try it and see
[00:37] <Crawford> ActionParsnip, s/pdif
[00:37] <ns_nazri> oblenis: working
[00:37] <lenny__> I mean you shouldn't use alsamixer if you have pulseaudio
[00:37] <exutux> lenny__: why not?
[00:38] <exutux> you can
[00:38] <elfMobile> hmm... a lot of these formats are unsupported.... like I can't export to Flash because libmp3lame
[00:38] <lenny__> pulseaudio is another fine Lennart Poettering's creation and you make him cry if you run alsamixer
[00:38] <simplew> can anyone tell me if its already possible to make video calls using pidgin/empathy, to see if the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/pidgin/+bug/971867 is somehow fixed ?
[00:38] <DaveTheJoker> hello
[00:38] <W4sp> lenny__ : you can run xdm, lightweightdm as  a display manager and run your desktop session as needed.
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> Crawford: try:  echo "options snd-hda-intel model=acer-aspire" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[00:38] <elfMobile> I see HDV, Raw DV, AVI DV, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, XVid4, H.264, RealVideo, Theora, WebM
[00:38] <brontosaurusrex> elfMobile, otherwise: on win; ut-video (ffmpeg has decoder i think), mac; prores 444, 422, animation rle rgb, ffmpeg; x264 lossless or slightly lossy, there is plenty of them
[00:38] <brontosaurusrex> elfMobile, that are slightly lossy or really lossless
[00:39] <brophat> see if one of you can figure out what this guy is saying;  http://davidcortijo.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/ubuntu-12-04-how-to-solve-the-wifi-interface-using-ralink-rt3090-card/
[00:39] <tyrant91101> I'm trying to set up triple monitors on a desktop with a GTX 670 and when I start gnome classic it creates a ton of bars (top menu bar and the bottom bar with the workspaces) on the first (left most monitor) and the other 2 monitors are white (no x cursor which suggest X worked)
[00:39] <DaveTheJoker> I am trying to download ubuntu server and I hit 64bit download, but the name of the download file includes "amd64.iso"
[00:39] <DaveTheJoker> I want to use this on a intel processor
[00:39] <tyrant91101> I have the latest nvidia-current drivers
[00:39] <brontosaurusrex> elfMobile, this are all final formats, perhaps you could hacksor around h.264 , all depends on your sources really
[00:39] <DaveTheJoker> does amd64 mean it only works on AMD?
[00:39] <exutux> nope
[00:39] <W4sp> exutux, lenny__, DeltaHeavyz: I read your response but that's just too fast for me to respond to all of you.
[00:39] <cfhowlett> DaveTheJoker: it is the correct file.  "amd64" runs intel 64
[00:40] <elfMobile> brontosaurusrex: ..... oh Lossless / HQ was a separate selection.  I see FFV1 lossless (video) + FLAC (sound)
[00:40] <brontosaurusrex> elfMobile, that will work
[00:40] <DaveTheJoker> oh ok, thanks, thats just what I was looking for
[00:40] <elfMobile> that and MPEG-2 I-frame only (video) + MP2 (sound)
[00:40] <cfhowlett> DaveTheJoker: good luck.  have fun,.
[00:40] <exutux> DaveTheJoker: it works if you have a 64bit cpu
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> tyrant91101: what version of the nvidia drivers does nvidia-settings say you are using?
[00:40] <brontosaurusrex> elfMobile, go for ffv1
[00:40] <DaveTheJoker> oh I do I plan on putting this on a IBM x3550 server
[00:40] <brophat> there are only four steps in this process, see if one of you can figure it out. http://davidcortijo.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/ubuntu-12-04-how-to-solve-the-wifi-interface-using-ralink-rt3090-card/
[00:40] <Crawford> ActionParsnip, Okay I did that.. audio is still low
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Crawford: reboot to apply
[00:41] <Crawford> ah lol
[00:41] <elfMobile> hopefully then I can throw this on my other machine that has a good ffmpeg installed and has 6 cores
[00:41] <tyrant91101> ActionParsnip: 295.53
[00:41] <W4sp> exutux: This is only a temporary measure. You would normally disable the dm so it does not run as a daemon.
[00:42] <elfMobile> brontosaurusrex: thanks for the help
[00:42] <exutux> W4sp: if set "text" option in /etc/default/grub it's a static measure
[00:42] <brontosaurusrex> elfMobile, you want latest x264 and ffmpeg (from git)
[00:42] <brontosaurusrex> elfMobile, no problem
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> tyrant91101: you could try adding the xorg edgers updates ppa (less fresh more stable) but not the xorg edgers ppa itself
[00:42] <L3top> so tyrant91101 you are on nvidia-current-updates   yes? (note to ActionParsnip)
[00:42] <exutux> W4sp: and you have a text login
[00:43] <lenny__> no, you need the login screen to launch a screenreader because some people can't read
[00:43] <lenny__> it would be rude for you not to have a screenreader enabled even if you don't need it
[00:43] <tyrant91101> L3top: no nvidia-current-updates is not isntalled
[00:44] <L3top> !info nvidia-current
[00:44] <tyrant91101> wait sorry the version is 295.40
[00:44] <L3top> ok... that changes things.
[00:44] <W4sp> exutux: :-) many ways may be but to disable the dm is the right one. GRUB serves to local machine while the dm can serve others as well.
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> tyrant91101: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:45] <dodel> .
[00:45] <dodel> .s
[00:45] <dodel> .s
[00:45] <FloodBot1> dodel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:45] <tyrant91101> ActionParsnip: thank you, give me a second to try it
[00:46] <W4sp> exutus: It is also poor style to operate the OS through the boot manager and I do not recommend to proceed as you suggested for the reasons I mentioned earlier.
[00:48] <exutux> W4sp: so the right question, then is, if don't need GUI why did you install it? :)
[00:48] <simplew> did anyone managed in PIDGIN to login into a hotmail account using XMPP?
[00:48] <Crawford> ActionParsnip, Thank you for your help mate, sound seems to be working again although typically I have to reboot to get audio to work at normal volume levels anyway so I am not sure if that fix you applied did the trick or if it was roll of the reboot dice
[00:49] <exutux> W4sp: and gdm it's only a login manager
[00:49] <lenny__> because some people somewhere in the world need a gui to operate computers
[00:49] <lenny__> so you have to have a gui
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Crawford: sweet hope its the permanent fix :)
[00:49] <exutux> lenny__: and so why you want disable GUI if you don't need?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> exutux: or why even install one :)
[00:49] <Salman> Whatsapp
[00:49] <DeltaHeavy> exutux: Ubuntu Server doesn't even come with one last time I checked
[00:50] <Crawford> ActionParsnip, Your a star.. Oh and its Paddy_NI from Ireland currently in canada sorting my brother in-laws ubuntu install
[00:50] <lenny__> because you're being selfish. it's part of the human nature but when Lennart will rule the world
[00:50] <W4sp> exutux, lenny__ : The question was how to kill a dm.
[00:50] <exutux> lenny__: if I need a GUI I install a desktop version, if I don't need I use server version or some minimal...
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Crawford: nice, could've done it via SSH :)
[00:50] <Crawford> ah :-)
[00:50] <exutux> lenny__: you're only speaking about filosofy...
[00:50] <L3top> !info nvidia-current-updates | LjL can you explain how !info displays wrong version information such as...
[00:50] <tyrant91101> ActionParsnip: it worked, thank you! Is there a way to set the primary screen in gnome-shell?
[00:50] <exutux> W4sp: well :)
[00:50] <Salman> !computer info ActionParsnip
[00:51] <Salman> !pm | ask me computer live help ActionParsnip
[00:51] <lenny__> to be honest with you I used to know how to properly disable GDM, but after Lennart decided init scripts were obsolete
[00:51] <Crawford> ActionParsnip, Later Sir I'm going to have a cup of tea :-)
[00:51] <loconut> hello. I have a new Apple trackpad on Ubuntu 12.04 and I have the basics working, 2 finger scroll, etc. but I'm getting mostly old docs for 10.04 on google searches and can't figure out whether I should be using evdev or synaptics or even how to change it to synaptics in 12.04
[00:51] <loconut> anyone here familiar with 12.04 and the apple trackpad?
[00:51] <L3top> LjL: as apt-cache policy reveals Candidate: 295.49-0ubuntu0.1
[00:52] <loconut> point me to some current docs maybe?
[00:52] <Salman> ActionParsnip: Also have computer problem
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> tyrant91101: isn't that set in nvidia-settings ?
[00:52] <W4sp> exutux, lenny__ : Seemingly he/she did not want a dm on startup/
[00:52] <Salman> ActionParsnip: With live games download how install live
[00:52] <exutux> lenny__: to behonest with you too I know how to do it, and Lennart can say what him want...
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> you don't need a DM to get a desktop, you can run fluxbox straight from /etc/rc.local
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Salman: i have no idea of the context of what you are saying, bad TAB?
[00:53] <Salman> My computer/repack games not playing/help me
[00:53] <exutux> W4sp: so disable it, like you said, I only said another way to do it
[00:53] <exutux> s/him/he/
[00:53] <lenny__> W4sp: the lennart I keep referring to is pulseaudio, systemd, ConsoleKit, dbus, whatever author
[00:54] <Salman> Another latop on gta iv/my computer not playing :(
[00:54] <lenny__> for those who like his creations
[00:54] <tyrant91101> ActionParsnip: i'm looking through it but I can't figure out how to set the primary
[00:54] <lenny__> I don't...
[00:54] <oblenis> ns_ sorry for such long delay i meant is it a defect in the os?
[00:54] <Salman> With Onilne for easy
[00:55] <Salman> I have computer gta San Onilne #Uifserver.net I have/easy :)
[00:55] <L3top> !botabuse | stop abusing the bot Salman... and singling out ActionParsnip. He is kind and wants to help everyone... but you aren't asking lucid questions.
[00:56] <Salman> Bye all guys
[00:56] <tyrant91101> ActionParsnip: scratch that, still not working. when I updated it auto switched to TwinView. Now I tried to switch to separate X screens and same thing
[00:56] <trism> djzn: definitely seems to be a gtk bug, I made a test program that uses gdk_window_set_cursor explicitly when the mouse enters and the cursor is the correct size (that's why it works in firefox)
[00:56] <djzn> trism: hi
[00:56] <lenny__> gtk bug? impossible. marked as "fix released" and redirected to /dev/null
[00:57] <trism> djzn: must be in the ubuntu patches though since the fedora 17 live cd worked fine
[00:57] <ning> is there anyone who develop android app ?
[00:57] <trism> djzn: and they only seem to have two patches against theirs (with nothing to do with cursors)
[00:57] <djzn> trism: same gtk version?
[00:58] <L3top> lenny__: We get it. You take issue with the direction and support of ubuntu devs. Please... stop complaining. Your disparity is noted. This is a support channel. Vent elsewhere.
[00:59] <djzn> trism: i am amazed that you're digging this deep
[00:59] <L3top> tyrant91101: can I please see your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:00] <L3top> tyrant91101: if you are rockin twin view with a third monitor you should have one.
[01:00] <lenny__> L3top: so basically, because I dared to speak my dissent you're telling me to fuck off
[01:00] <DeltaHeavy> L3top: Uh oh: http://xkcd.com/963/
[01:00] <W4sp> exutux: It is unwise to have dm enabled for init and then disable dm in GRUB, a tool that's outside the OS.
[01:01] <trism> djzn: I'll have to check the versions, I suppose it might have been fixed recently but quantal is on 3.5.2 (f17 is on something like 3.4.4) and I see the bug there too
[01:01] <L3top> lenny__: It is no skin off my nose. Your whinging is taking up lines I have to scroll through to help people... and is not within the guidelines of this channel... and keep your language civil please. Go complain in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:02] <exutux> W4sp: dm isn't enabled if you've disabled it from boot...pay attention "text" mode says to boot without any gui enabled
[01:02] <djzn> trism: thanks for investigating this
[01:02] <djzn> would a fix be expected for the LTS ?
[01:02] <exutux> W4sp: grup options says directive to the kernel
[01:02] <exutux> grub*
[01:03] <lenny__> L3top: kick me, ban me, whatever but don't give my your shitty parental/marketing lectures. thank you.
[01:03] <L3top> lenny__: we are not ubuntu devs. You are just blogging in a large channel, where it is not acceptable to do so. We appreciate any support you have to give... but this is beyond the pale.
[01:03] <exutux> W4sp: so in that case grub says "hey kernel boot in a text mode without any gui enabled"
[01:03] <L3top> lenny__: I have no such power... I don't require it as one user to another to ask you to stop.
[01:04] <DeltaHeavy> exutux: I think the kernel can say which Linux "runlevel" to boot in but not specifically what things to start or stop FROM GRUB. I think it just gives init the runlevel and init does the rest.
[01:05] <exutux> DeltaHeavy: not really
[01:05] <exutux> DeltaHeavy: or better not only says about runlevel
[01:05] <tyrant91101> L3top: sorry I stepped away. putting up xorg.conf now
[01:05] <DeltaHeavy> exutux: Well not ONLY but that's how it knows what services (xorg) to start correct? It's what would make your GUI not load during boot correct?
[01:06] <exutux> DeltaHeavy: so it can says to kernel what modules enable too "example is nomodeset" for vga
[01:06] <DeltaHeavy> Ok exutux: got it, thanks!
[01:06] <DeltaHeavy> Blah typo
[01:06] <W4sp> exutux: It still is bad advice for all the reasons I gave you plus many more. If you are still in doubt I suggest you read the manual.
[01:06] <exutux> DeltaHeavy: nope not only during boot
[01:07] <persson121> Hello. I have a problem with flash. When im install Google Chrome, i cannot watch flash videos or games.
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> tyrant91101: not sure about dal head, i have 1 screen for 4 systems. The driver will help as your nvidia chip is quite new
[01:07] <persson121> Hello. I have a problem with flash. When im install Google Chrome, i cannot watch flash videos or games.
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> persson121: please don't post like that
[01:07] <DeltaHeavy> exutux: I think you misunderstood my last message. It was just a thank you, no other questions or comments on GRUB/Linux in general :P
[01:07] <tyrant91101> L3top, ActionParsnip: here is my Xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/E0wLN5U5
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> persson121: can you please give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[01:08] <exutux> W4sp: reason that you said early aren't good reasons IMHO ...which manual you're referring too?
[01:08] <exutux> DeltaHeavy: np
[01:08] <persson121> ActionParsnip: Sorry. I can't se what im posting. It's seams that i cant se what other people writing. Anyway. I got a flash problem in Ubuntu 12.04. I have tried everything.
[01:09] <persson121> ActionParsnip: I can only se if someone write my nick name
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> persson121: can you give a pastebin of the command I gave plase, you can use http://pastie.org or similar
[01:09] <tyrant91101> L3top. ActionParsnip: might it be that the Screen sections are duplicated? Each screen is declared twice
[01:09] <Ben64> persson121: you might want to get a different/better irc client
[01:10] <rawfodog> how do I refresh/restart unity in the command window ? I got an icon that wont go away ...
[01:10] <rawfodog> In gnome3 it's simply -r
[01:10] <DeltaHeavy> persson121: Install 'irssi' via terminal (sudo apt-get install irssi), then run it (execute irssi in the command line), then type '/connect irc.gnu.org' followed by '/join #ubuntu'
[01:11] <Ben64> DeltaHeavy: i wouldn't suggest irssi for most people
[01:11] <DeltaHeavy> Ben64: He seems to be just getting by. It's more of a "Lets rule out everything that could be screwing with you possible" solution
[01:12] <DeltaHeavy> If Flash isn't working it MIGHT be a video problem. When my mobo was dying Flash displayed as a green blob. Everything appeared to work fine until it kicked the bucket
[01:12] <steed> when connecting to an open access point. I have been, putting the card in managed mode, setting the essid, setting the channel, and the calling dhcp server, but i dont get and IP. am i not getting associated properly?
[01:12] <exutux> rawfodog: unity --help may say you
[01:12] <Ben64> DeltaHeavy: flash is a common problem in linux, its likely everything else works fine
[01:13] <L3top> tyrant91101: I don't understand what you mean by that... however the range of your third scren is outside of what I would expect to see, especially at the resolution you are going for on each. Try dropping each res in half (eg 1080p to 720p) and see if this is indeed the source of the problem as I expect it is.
[01:13] <exutux> rawfodog: unity --reset I think that what you want
[01:13] <DeltaHeavy> Ben64: Likley, but irssi is a fine solution until he can at least see what the hell is going on IMO. I'm not telling him to use IRSSI as his main client rather than for now while his stuff is messed up
[01:13] <Ben64> irssi is pretty hard to see/use, especially for a large channel like this
[01:14] <rawfodog> ill try exutux
[01:14] <rawfodog> thanks
[01:14] <exutux> np
[01:14] <DeltaHeavy> Ben64: Hard to see? Hard to use yes but I gave him specific instructions to get to this channel. It's just a temporary fix
[01:14] <tyrant91101> L3top: sorry misread the "Monitor" sections as screen
[01:14] <DeltaHeavy> Question: I recently had an experiance with a 1.6GHz Celeron (duel core) with 512MB of DDR RAM and integrated graphics. I used both Unity and GNOME2 fallback mode which both felt clunky and laggy. I installed CentOS and used it as a Desktop (minimal install and installed XORG/GNOME2) and it's running beatifully. The computer appears to exceed the minimial system requirements. Why would it feel as if my computer couldn't handle it well?
[01:14] <tyrant91101> L3top: trying to reduce teh resolution
[01:15] <L3top> tyrant91101: basically you have a virtual "screen size" limitation which each actual screen exists within. Imagine a big 2048 x 2048 area under which each screen must fit.
[01:15] <rawfodog> exutux, it worked thanks :)
[01:15] <steed> DeltaHeavy, have you made sure to turn off extra features like desktop effects etc
[01:15] <L3top> once you breach that boundry... whatever does dies
[01:15] <exutux> rawfodog: yw
[01:15] <DeltaHeavy> steed: Never turned them on. GNOME2 fallback mode I didn't look since it was apperent it wasn't using any by default unless I'm wrong.
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> DeltaHeavy: gnome2 is a dead project
[01:16] <tyrant91101> L3top: is there any way to increase this limit? The max resolutions were working fine with twin view
[01:16] <DeltaHeavy> ActionParsnip: It's still used in CentOS. I like it, it works, I know there's no support.
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> DeltaHeavy: try xfce in ubuntu, it smells like gnome2
[01:16] <MindALot> I'm having trouble.  I've purged ATI's drivers from my system, and run dpkg-reconfigure - however my /etc/X11/xorg.conf still has fglrx and ATI in it.
[01:16] <DeltaHeavy> ActionParsnip: I actually endedu p using that. Can't believe I left that out. Was still laggy as all hell.
[01:17] <trakinas> hi all. after upgrading ubuntu, I cannot play *anything* flash based.
[01:17] <Ben64> DeltaHeavy: maybe ubuntu was using the wrong graphics driver?
[01:17] <L3top> There is... but like all magic... it comes at a cost tyrant91101... and only on some chipsets. Again... I recommend just dropping res... Under 32 inches... 1080p only exists to make your... member feel bigger.
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> trakinas: can you use a pastebin to give the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[01:18] <trakinas> I fixed that previously using "flash-aid" ff plugin, but that didnt fix it this time. flash does not work on firefox, neither in Chrome/mium
[01:18] <steed> ActionParsnip, then what is your question?
[01:18] <DeltaHeavy> Ben64: I suppose that could be it. It was a standard integrated Intel chip though so I doubt it but I agree that is' a possibility. Is it not uncommon for a machine with the power of the one I mentioned to have performance issues when running Ubuntu 11.10?
[01:18] <tyrant91101> L3top: huh? It makes a massive difference on my monitors
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> steed: i have no question, my systems work 100%
[01:18] <Ben64> DeltaHeavy: hmm.. intel should "just work"
[01:19] <steed> ActionParsnip, sorry about that. mixed up a couple names.
[01:19] <L3top> tyrant91101: Ok. I am not here to argue physics. This is the cost. If you want 3 monitors, you can't run 1080p. Can you just please drop resolution to confirm this is correct?
[01:19] <DeltaHeavy> Ben64: That's what I was thinking. I thought it was just Ubuntu being a bit heavier than most other distros
[01:19] <trakinas> ActionParsnip:  -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[01:19] <trakinas> No LSB modules are available.
[01:19] <trakinas> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[01:19] <trakinas> Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[01:19] <trakinas> Release:	10.04
[01:19] <trakinas> Codename:	lucid
[01:19] <FloodBot1> trakinas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> steed: np, tab is a crazy foo
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> trakinas: i said use a pastebin...didn't I?
[01:20] <tyrant91101> L3top: working on that now, X died when I set the res lower, trying now through xorg.conf
[01:20] <trakinas> ActionParsnip: I know. I thought the link was in the buffer, but it wasnt
[01:20] <Ben64> DeltaHeavy: without effects there shouldn't be a noticeable difference from ubuntu, centos, or anything else modern really
[01:20] <tyrant91101> also, what does this have to do with physics?
[01:20] <L3top> tyrant91101: wait a second...
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> trakinas: ok,np :)
[01:20] <skpl> ubuntu 2d is slow on my machine
[01:20] <L3top> Optics are an important part of physics as humans are concerned
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> L3top: blind folks get around
[01:21] <Queops> Any way to, via bash, set the lightdm default session for a specified user?
[01:21] <L3top> That does not change the accuracy of my statement ActionParsnip.
[01:22] <trakinas> ActionParsnip: have you got my link? I dont know if the flood control has blocked the msg wth it.
[01:22] <steed> when connecting to an open access point. I have been, putting the card in managed mode, setting the essid, setting the channel, and the calling dhcp server, but i dont get and IP. am i not getting associated properly?
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Queops: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[01:22] <tyrant91101> L3top: way to trivialize my question. what physical property decides how useful 1080p is relative to the monitor size?
[01:22] <L3top> tyrant91101: your xorg.conf is not how I would configure it. I do not know how you can change it.
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> trakinas: no, sorry, can you post it in the channel please
[01:22] <trakinas> http://pastebin.com/f4CynBf2
[01:22] <tyrant91101> im working on changing it now, just had a problem with nvidia-settings
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> trakinas: thanks, let me check
[01:23] <L3top> tyrant91101: I am trying to help. If you want to have a debate, I would frankly find that more fun and interesting and we can do that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:23] <sambagirl> I see the problem here ActionParsnip
[01:23] <tyrant91101> L3top: Sorry i came off aggressive. I am asking for clarification, not to insight an argument :)
[01:23] <Queops> ActionParsnip: I mean for gnome-shell for example. .dmrc doesnt work, gsettings doesn't seem to have an option for it, lightdm.conf doesn't work either
[01:24] <Queops> It keeps using ubuntu for my session, for this user.
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> trakinas: try:  sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer flashplugin-nonfree; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:24] <caixa1> u
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> trakinas: may help
[01:24] <L3top> sambagirl is stalking me.
[01:24] <Queops> Unless I login and choose the shell
[01:24] <sambagirl> no i am not
[01:24] <sambagirl> ;d
[01:24] <sambagirl> Is that ver 10.10?
[01:24] <tyrant91101> insight? wtf? instigate*
[01:24] <L3top> afk
[01:24] <sambagirl> haah
[01:25] <sambagirl> isn't it against international universal law to help someone with Ubuntu 10.10?
[01:26] <exutux> Queops: you can use an ~.xinitrc file on home user like exec name-session
[01:26] <tyrant91101> L3top: no change. resolution isnt the issue it appears
[01:26] <Queops> exutux: won't that bork things up?
[01:26] <Queops> Maybe theres a gsettings that im not aware of, or I just can't find the user settings that really change the session
[01:27] <Queops> For some reason lightdm "resets" the .dmrc
[01:27] <exutux> Queops: I use a simply .xinitrc
[01:27] <tyrant91101> L3top: actually, does lightdm even implement separate x screens?
[01:27] <Queops> I'm just asking, programatically, because it's really easy to change upon login
[01:27] <Queops> but when using a script for many..
[01:28] <Queops> Might have to go and have a look at the source code of it
[01:28] <Queops> To see the funny bussiness.
[01:28] <exutux> Queops: try .xinitrc
[01:29] <L3top> tyrant91101: I dunno about lightdm so much... but I would expect it to accomodate... can I get a pastebin of xrandr -q please
[01:29] <exutux> i't a simply bash script with  exec lxde-session or gnome-session or what you want
[01:31] <trakinas> ActionParsnip: no success. Same trouble: flash does not "draw" anything - that is, no error messages about missing plugins, but nothing loading.
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> trakinas: if you make a frsh ubuntu user, is it ok?
[01:31] <tyrant91101> L3top: http://pastebin.com/prKnBj5Q
[01:32] <L3top> tyrant91101: please backup your xorg.conf. I am going to generate one for you. It may or may not work, are you familiar enough with terminal to restore your current one if it bombs?
[01:32] <tyrant91101> L3top: yep
[01:33] <L3top> k
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> trakinas: Lucid has 9 months support, considered a clean install of Precise?
[01:33] <L3top> tyrant91101: I need to backtrack a bit. Sorry. Can I see the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[01:34] <L3top> tyrant91101: do you have any sort of converters btw attached to your monitors... dvi to hdim etc
[01:34] <trakinas> ActionParsnip: maybe. Im building a new machine and I was thinking about using Mint, just for a change.
[01:34] <tyrant91101> L3top: http://pastebin.com/V2U3996e
[01:35] <tyrant91101> L3top: No, one 27" on DVI, another on HDMI, and the last 22" on DVI
[01:35] <L3top> tyrant91101: are you attempting to have individual displays or a shared single desktop stretched across 3
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> trakinas: fun to try new things
[01:36] <L3top> tyrant91101: based on that pastebin you see what I am seeing yes?
[01:36] <tyrant91101> L3top: what do you mean individual vs shared? TwinView works (with max Res), separate x does not
[01:37] <trakinas> Well, I have to leave now. I will try using a fresh user later. Thanks for your support, ActionParsnip
[01:37] <crazybrain> What is usernet news reader
[01:37] <Rafase282> Hello, could someone tell me how can I delete everything from a directory with exeption of a directory with its subdirectories and files in command line?
[01:38] <L3top> tyrant91101: What I mean is either a single desktop environment shared across 3 monitors, or 3 desktops with their own monitor.
[01:38] <trakinas> tyrant91101: individual screens have independent things happening on the,: like, firefox opened in the 27" and my code opened on the other.
[01:38] <trakinas> tyrant91101:  think about shared like TV displays on eletronic stores, where they show the same stuff on different screens.
[01:38] <tyrant91101> ok yeah I'm trying to do individual screens
[01:39] <tyrant91101> with gnome-shell's menu showing up on the middle one (when you press start)
[01:39] <tyrant91101> *windows key
[01:39] <L3top> okeydoke. I am confused by your xrandr.
[01:39] <trakinas> Rafase282: you will have to use some regex and a toll like xargs or something else where you can queue parameters for another command.
[01:40] <Rafase282> Sounds like it wont be a line of code =/
[01:40] <L3top> tyrant91101: individual would have 3  menus, one desktop shared across 3 would have one main menu which you could assign however based on the hw... can you please show me the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[01:41] <trakinas> Rafase282: maybe or you could cd into the main directory and put what is going to be removed inline.
[01:41] <Rafase282> from /sdcard I want to erease everything but the dir /sdcard/R282
[01:41] <Rafase282> The problem is that is more what I want to delete than what I want to keep
[01:42] <Rafase282> everything is mostly in directories anywyas but they are still over 10
[01:42] <Neaters> Im new to ubuntu
[01:42] <Queops> exutux: sadly that won't do for me :P
[01:43] <trakinas> Rafase282: what about copying what R282 to somewhere else? then, remove everything in this directory?
[01:43] <tyrant91101> L3top: would the windows also be specific to each desktop? and do you mean there will be a separate gnome-shell overlay for each one?
[01:43] <L3top> Neaters: welcome... but... do you have a support question, or wish to know where to go as a newb?
[01:43] <Neaters> yea, not sure where to go from here
[01:43] <trakinas> Rafase282: alas, you could inline everything you want to remove, but that dir. IE: rm what/  you/  want/to/  remove/
[01:44] <L3top> It depends on your wants tyrant91101. I must say, I am not fond of your nic. I will still help you.
[01:44] <tyrant91101> L3top: the command shows the same thing as http://pastebin.com/V2U3996e
[01:44] <trakinas> Rafase282: I have to go now, good luck with that.
[01:44] <tyrant91101> L3top: I hope you will forgive the nick, it is 12-13 years old :p
[01:44] <Rafase282> I have no space, it is a Nexus 7 (tablet) the directory I want to keep is where all my personal files and media is so while it is less than 1 gb i can only use adb from the android sdk
[01:44] <Rafase282> Thanks trakinas
[01:45] <trakinas> Rafase282: If there is too many things to be listed by hand, have a look on using find or xargs for listing what you dont want to remove
[01:46] <Rafase282> Im deleting them one by one for now
[01:46] <Rafase282> But I will have to make a script or somethign later on I guess
[01:46] <L3top> I do not believe in augers.
[01:46] <L3top> I will still help.
[01:46] <L3top> augurs*
[01:47] <tyrant91101> L3top: priests? huh?
[01:47] <L3top> fortune tellers
[01:47] <tyrant91101> why do you think I am a fortune teller?
[01:47] <L3top> tyrant91101: how many heads are on this card?
[01:47] <h00k> !ot
[01:49] <tyrant91101> L3top: ummm I think two. GTX 670 is dual i think
[01:49] <L3top> tyrant91101: I am completely unfamiliar with this card. So is ubuntu. Please sudo update-pciids and lspci -nn | grep VGA again
[01:50] <L3top> How do you have 3 monitors attached to a dual card?
[01:50] <cheryl> I need help installing java on my computer
[01:51] <tyrant91101> L3top: http://pastebin.com/sZvdDX12
[01:51] <tyrant91101> L3top: I am unclear about what a head means. ive seen "dual head" mentioned in the topics i was searching through
[01:51] <tyrant91101> It has 2 DVi and 2 HDMI if that helps
[01:51] <L3top> this thing is spanking brand new yes tyrant91101?
[01:52] <tyrant91101> L3top: yeah its the new kepler series
[01:52] <cheryl> I need help installing java on my computer can anyone direct me to where i can do this?
[01:52] <L3top> tyrant91101: I believe, with absolutely know research, that each of those two types of heads are tied to the same two bases and you will never get 3 outputs from them unless you want to mirror one.
[01:53] <L3top> and that would be a trick
[01:53] <L3top> Give me a moment tyrant91101
[01:53] <tyrant91101> L3top: is this a Ubuntu limitation or a hardware limitation?
[01:53] <L3top> cheryl: do you mean openjdk or oracle/sun java?
[01:53] <L3top> It would be a hardware limitation if I am correct tyrant91101.
[01:54] <cheryl> L3Top: the one you use to play games on the internet
[01:54] <L3top> I know just about every pciid on the planet and that is foreign to me tyrant91101. That thing has to be spankin brand new
[01:54] <tyrant91101> L3top: No, the new kepler series can do 3 monitors
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> cheryl: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[01:54] <tyrant91101> They finally got around it without display port
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> cheryl: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[01:54] <tyrant91101> L3top: I can test it quickly on windows to make sure but with TwinView all 3 monitors were useable
[01:55] <L3top> tyrant91101: Individually or as clones?
[01:55] <tyrant91101> L3top: individually
[01:55] <L3top> I will need to research for a moment tyrant91101.
[01:55] <L3top> As I said... I was unaware of this things existance.
[01:56] <L3top> existence.
[01:56] <cheryl> thank you
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> cheako: you will need to close all your browsers and rerun them to load the new plugin
[01:58] <andsch> Hello, I would like to know what program/technique Ubuntu uses to encrypt my HD data.
[02:00] <andsch> Well, seems there is nobody helpful in this chatroom.
[02:00] <andsch> pity.
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> andsch: what does saying that, achieve?
[02:01] <andsch> attention of gullible fools.
[02:01] <andsch> And I was damn successful.
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> andsch: so very little then
[02:02] <andsch> but enough to get two responses.
[02:02] <XiRoN> How can I lock users FTP into their own home directory?
[02:02] <tyrant91101> L3top: yeah these are really new. march was the first release int eh series i believe. Shouldnt ubuntu support 3-4 monitors off of an ATI display port or SLId NVIDIAs?
[02:02] <XiRoN> So they can rummage around in the system files also.
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> andsch: but it doesn't resolve anything, nor is it a question, so its offtopic
[02:03] <tyrant91101> and the latest Nvidia driver definitely supports gtx 670
[02:03] <L3top> it can... it is not terribly straightforward tyrant91101.
[02:04] <L3top> As I said, it relies on a pre-determined Xorg limitation which I have to research.
[02:04] <andsch> and it also has a security flaw which allows one to get superuser access to your computer.
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218630
[02:04] <andsch> Torvalds was probably right when he said taht Nvidia was the worst company ever.
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> andsch: thats also offtopic here
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> andsch: this is pure support, chatter is in #ubuntu-offtopic here
[02:05] <tyrant91101> L3top: thank you so much for putting in the time
[02:09] <Skaperen> anyone know where the Ubuntu package descriptions are available online?
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: http://package.ubuntu.com
[02:10] <Skaperen> they aren't there
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: you can also use:  apt-cache show packagename   in terminal
[02:10] <IdleOne> Skaperen: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:10] <Skaperen> Trying to search them
[02:11] <Skaperen> IdleOne: packages are listed there but the description text is GONE
[02:11] <Skaperen> IdleOne: see my post ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2036005
[02:11] <messi> !salve
[02:11] <messi> !list
[02:12] <Skaperen> IdleOne: the packeg descriptions exist in older versions of ubuntu, but not in precise
[02:12] <messi> ciao
[02:12] <messi> list
[02:12] <Skaperen> package
[02:13] <IdleOne> Skaperen: might just be an question of emailing and making them aware.
[02:13] <IdleOne> Skaperen: bottom of the page has contact info.
[02:14] <Skaperen> IdleOne: OK ... this seems odd as it covers all of precise (I have not found any package with a description)
[02:15] <IdleOne> Skaperen: yup, not something we can help fix. best suggestion is to contact them.
[02:15] <IdleOne> Skaperen: but you can use apt-cache show package-name
[02:18] <tastycakeman> hello, apologies if i am beating a dead horse, but wtf do i do to fix my openssl problem?
[02:19] <tastycakeman> or, how does i install this... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/1.0.1-4ubuntu5
[02:19] <Skaperen> IdleOne: OK, email sent ... and that "apt-cache show package-name" only works for the Ubuntu version I have installed (not currently on 12.04)
[02:19] <ashka> hello, I'm experiencing a problem with my ATI graphic card since I changed my motherboard
[02:19] <ashka> xrandr doesn't detect the outputs anymore
[02:19] <Skaperen> which is why I went to the web site
[02:19] <ashka> it's the same graphic card with the same driver as before
[02:20] <Skaperen> but anyway, I sent the email, so maybe it will be in their attention now
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> tastycakeman: sudo apt-get source install openssl     if memory serves
[02:20] <OerHeks> tastycakeman, openssl should be installed standard, you can check that yourself
[02:21] <tastycakeman> 'unable to find a source package' for apt-get source install openssl
[02:22] <OerHeks> Skaperen, works fine here, full description on 12.04
[02:22] <Skaperen> OerHeks: for the web site?
[02:23] <OerHeks> no, apt-cache show <package>
[02:23] <Skaperen> OerHeks: that works for me ... but only for packages in 10.10 because I have 10.10 installed here
[02:24] <OerHeks> website is not showing info since Oneiric
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: maverick is EOL
[02:24] <Skaperen> OerHeks: I didn't check Oneiric
[02:24] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: I'm aware of that ... which is the big reason I'm researching steps I need to do to upgrade
[02:25] <ashka> in order to get openssl, you need to enable the security repo
[02:25] <tastycakeman> security repo?
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: grab the natty alternate ISO and upgrade using that
[02:25] <ashka> yes, let me get the line you need to add in your sources.list file
[02:25] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: why natty? I want 12.04 LTS precise
[02:26] <OerHeks> 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04
[02:26] <ashka> tastycakeman: which version of ubuntu do you have ?
[02:26] <Skaperen> I'm not going to be doing an incremental ... I'm doing a fresh jump via a 2nd drive
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: because you are on Maverick, so you need to upgrade to Natty, then to Oneiric then finally to Precise
[02:26] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: ^^^^
[02:26] <tastycakeman> 1204
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: if you were on Lucid (10.04 LTS), you would be able to upgrade directly to Precise (12.04 LTS) as it is an LTS to LTS upgrade
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: then just wipe Maverick out entirely and install Precise to the new free space
[02:28] <tastycakeman> oops 12.04
[02:28] <ashka> tastycakeman: okay, in a terminal, type that : echo "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security main restricted" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:28] <ashka> then you can update APT, then retry installing openssl
[02:28] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: I don't have the luxury of being on an un-modified system ... I need to have THIS system stay running while I do all my mods to 12.04 ... probably a week or so to finish
[02:28] <ashka> oh wait, tastycakeman
[02:28] <ashka> forgot the deb at the very start of this thing
[02:28] <tastycakeman> ...?
[02:28] <ashka> just after the quote
[02:29] <ashka> if you already did the command, no problem, just type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:29] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: then I switch drives and have 12.04 HERE and 10.10 on the other box
[02:29] <ashka> you need to add deb so the line looks like the others
[02:29] <tastycakeman> whoa
[02:29] <tastycakeman> waht did i just do...
[02:30] <tastycakeman> i have never used nano before...
[02:30] <tastycakeman> how do i save...
[02:30] <tastycakeman> doh
[02:30] <ashka> oh, it's pretty straight forward
[02:30] <ashka> to save, press Ctrl-x
[02:30] <ashka> then y, then enter
[02:30] <tastycakeman> sweet, got it
[02:30] <ashka> then you could just go ahead and update APT
[02:30] <ashka> sorry
[02:30] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: this week I'm researching which packages I want to get rid of and which I want to add, especially what is new since 10.10
[02:30] <tastycakeman> ok added
[02:31] <ashka> that should be okay
[02:31] <aclocal> I have been looking under the lib folder and I was wondering about the library nameing convention libgcrypt.so.11.5.2 libBrokenLocale-2.11.1.so is the numbers after an .so the version numbers always and the numbers before are ?
[02:31] <tastycakeman> and then install openssl?
[02:31] <ashka> yup
[02:31] <aclocal> what about before the .so
[02:31] <aclocal> the second one
[02:31] <tastycakeman> so this should fix that wonky tls1 thing/ssl connect
[02:32] <tastycakeman> its weird, i remember seeing it as an ubuntu thing, but everything i read said it was a rubygems thing
[02:33] <aclocal> anybody
[02:34] <Skaperen> aclocal: I've always wondered about that
[02:35] <Skaperen> aclocal: I hope it's not a thing that people would debate about which is right, like they do over silly stuff like which editor is best (none of them are)
[02:36] <bcgrown> why can't i have multiple apps use the sound card at once?  and how do i fix it?  i'm on xubuntu 12.04 64-bit.  audio is an onboard Intel HDA / Realtek ALC887
[02:36] <aclocal> yes but this is rather important numbers have some times meaning specially when where talking about important libraries that one would need to be aware of maybe when developing
[02:36] <aclocal> and I agree with you
[02:36] <ashka> bcgrown: did you removed pulseaudio ?
[02:37] <tastycakeman> uh oh, it did not work...
[02:37] <z1lt0id> Just wondering are there any significant performance differences between the i386 iso or x64 iso.  cause with pae enabled it supports 4 gig of ram and over now
[02:38] <z1lt0id> is it really worth going the x86_64 route
[02:38] <Skaperen> aclocal: if it means anything to you, I use version after .so for mine
[02:38] <Skaperen> but I can change if someone makes the case for it to me
[02:38] <bcgrown> ashka: no,  i just have whatever the default is
[02:41] <bcgrown> ashka: hmm it actually seems to be only my mpd setup that doesn't work right
[02:41] <Banana937> Can anyone help me with an IRSSI problem on Ubuntu Server 12.04?
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> Banana937: whats up?
[02:42] <_Tristan> Hello. Aptitude wants to remove ia32-libs in order to upgrade (with full resolver). Is this bad?
[02:42] <Banana937> I have autolog on, and when I download the file via SFTP, it's got all of the logs there, but when I try using nano, the file is blank.
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> Banana937: what if you use less?
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> _Tristan: you can reinstall it later
[02:43] <_Tristan> ActionParsnip: will I need to?
[02:43] <spanther> hi there :-) I've installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64bit on my Intel D525MW mainboard with GMA3150 graphics (VGA port). Now under win7 I had 1920x1080 (monitor has this resolution and VGA port only). In Ubuntu I only get 1024x768 and if I try to switch to 1280x1024 I get a flickering window with errors that it couldn't apply this resolution. I can't see an 1920x1080 entry too
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> _Tristan: depends if you need it
[02:43] <_Tristan> ..right
[02:44] <Banana937> ActionParsnip: I think the problem could be the format of the .log files. It formats them to have a "#" before the name.
[02:44] <Banana937> less doesn't seem to recognize the file because of it.
[02:45] <aclocal> n> aclocal: if it means anything to you, I use version after .so for mine ,but I can change if someone makes the case for it to me  ... true but was wondering if they kept a standard since if this was changed chaos could accure in versioning issues maybe... plus it is an easy way to lookup the versions without having to uses commands like ldd on all of them
[02:46] <aclocal> not that thats an issue or anything :)
[02:46] <bcgrown> ashka: Aug 01 19:43 : output: Failed to open "My ALSA Device" [alsa]: Failed to open ALSA device "default": Device or resource busy   that's what i get when i leave the ALSA device set to "default" in mpd.conf
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> aloril: if the number after .so is different you may be able to make a symlink to a later verioned library to satisfy it. Is that what you are meaning?
[02:47] <Banana937> ActionParsnip: Is that a viable reason for it not working?
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> Banana937: ive no idea about irssi logs dude, sorry
[02:49] <Banana937> No, but would a "#" at the beginning of a filename prevent nano and less from being able to read it?
[02:49] <Desirre> good evening! can someone help me? I think my problem is pretty simple... I've installed Xubuntu and everything was doing right, but when I upgraded it, my audio stopped working... now I can't listen my musics nor any sound... what I supposed to do?
[02:49] <x0rs> why does it say nickserv services are unavailable?
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> x0rs: i'd ask in #freenode
[02:49] <Desirre> I've already asked on Xubuntu channel but nobody answered me...
[02:49] <cfhowlett> Desirre: did you install restricted codecs
[02:49] <cfhowlett> ?
[02:50] <x0rs> ActionParsnip, thanks
[02:50] <Desirre> my husband suggested reinstall Xubuntu, but I prefer try another approach... 'cause I don't wanna miss my archives and I don't have any ways to do a backup yet... it's an NETbook and I don't have an external HD
[02:50] <cfhowlett> Desirre: default xubuntu installation does not include required codecs to play .mp3.  you can install them separately.
[02:51] <tastycakeman> can someone help me implement this fix: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3977303/omniauth-facebook-certificate-verify-failed/5512518#5512518
[02:51] <Desirre> cfhowlett: I don't know... how can I know this?
[02:51] <tastycakeman> i am on step 3 of the top answer, but what the heck is a provider initializer/
[02:51] <cfhowlett> Desirre: quite EZ actually.  See that panel at the bottom of the screen?  click on the terminal to open a terminal
[02:51] <genewitch> how do i make it so guests can't go to certain sites but authenticated users can?
[02:52] <Desirre> cfhowlett: okay
[02:52] <XiRoN> From root is it possible to run a command as a different user?
[02:52] <genewitch> i.e. i want to block youtube.com for guests.
[02:52] <cfhowlett> Desirre: assuming you're computer administrator, type in sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:52] <genewitch> My ten year old figured out how to watch youtube, and when i'm working it takes me 15 minutes to realize that there's noises coming from his mom's netbook
[02:52] <cfhowlett> then it should ask for your admin password
[02:52] <Desirre> cfhowlett: alright... just a second
[02:53] <z1lt0id> genewitch: http://www.ehow.com/how_8430122_blacklist-website-ubuntu-firefox.html
[02:53] <z1lt0id> genewitch: it will work for chrome and anything else as well
[02:56] <S4nD3r> There's no "Language Support" menu item in my 11.04, how to install it?
[02:56] <Desirre> cfhowlett: done
[02:56] <marcofontell> that's anybody out there?
[02:56] <randomusr_> How does one setup an imaging server on 10.04 64 bit?
[02:56] <Desirre> cfhowlett: but nothing changed :(
[02:56] <cfhowlett> Desirre: assuming the download completed as ordered, reboot and you should be able to play
[02:57] <Desirre> cfhowlett: okay! tx a lot! good night!
[02:57] <cfhowlett> Desirre: good luck.  have fun.
[02:58] <XiRoN> How can I give a user access to java without giving it root?
[02:58] <xangua> S4nD3r: sure there is, open the dash and type 'language'
[02:58] <S4nD3r> there's no this item
[02:59] <S4nD3r> it disapeared
[03:00] <spanther> yay I found out something. The GMA3150 had (weirdly) "Laptop" as first display and mirroring was enabled (it is no laptop mainboard, it is D525MW mini-itx). So I only could chose 1024x768. Now I disabled mirroring and then I could pick the AOC screen and with it the 1920x1080 resolution :D
[03:02] <randomusr_> How does one setup an imaging server on 10.04 64 bit?
[03:02] <S4nD3r> So, by the way... I have a problem. There's some application which shows text in chinese or japanese, dunno which is that language. How solve it?
[03:03] <cfhowlett> S4nD3r: "some application"?  can't help
[03:04] <S4nD3r> In menu item, Qt4 and some asiatic symbols
[03:04] <S4nD3r> Furius ISO mount is all in asiatic symbols
[03:05] <S4nD3r> I got to use language-support right now
[03:05] <S4nD3r> theres a asiatic language in windows and menu language support
[03:05] <S4nD3r> but, I dunno how to remove it
[03:07] <XiRoN> I'm editing my sudoers file, does this syntax look correct to you guys?    %customers NOPASSWD: JAVA
[03:10] <XiRoN> How can I allow users of a group to hava access to a certain program?
[03:19] <XiRoN> How can I stop a user from getting out of his home directory in ssh?
[03:20] <jagginess> XiRoN, you'll need to make a jailroot account.. i did one ages ago, it's probably easier now (google jailroot ubunu wiki)
[03:20] <jagginess> XiRoN, is this for sftp only?
[03:20] <rhizmoe> ubuntu i am disappoint: bash: /usr/games/fortune: No such file or directory
[03:21] <david_chen> when I used firefox with linuxmint several minutes，the desktop would  stick，How can I do ？
[03:21] <jagginess> david_chen, #mint
[03:21] <jagginess> !mint
[03:22] <gurrag> latest Firefox update [14.0.1] breaks AdBlock Plus
[03:22] <alexhairyman> That's a firefox problem
[03:23] <trism> rhizmoe: sudo apt-get install fortune;
[03:23] <randomusr_> How does one setup an imaging server on 10.04 64 bit?
[03:24] <david_chen> ok，I'll try
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> randomusr_: how do you mean 'imaging'?
[03:26] <randomusr_> Action_Parsnip um.... one that comes up with new Disney characters?
[03:26] <randomusr_> ActionParsnip um.... one that comes up with new Disney characters?
[03:27] <randomusr_> I would like to set up an imaging server from which I could PXE clients and install Windows
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> randomusr_: if you want a PXE server, say PXE server
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> randomusr_: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_pxe_install_server
[03:28] <randomusr_> ActionParsnip I'm sorry I didn't get my point accross, I though imaging would suffice
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> randomusr_: it could be a medical imaging server where xrays are viewed
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> randomusr_: or a backup servr for holding HDD images
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> randomusr_: and so forth
[03:29] <randomusr_> Now that that's over with how the hell does it work on linux? I've tried installing DRBL with CloneZilla and as simple as the Articles sound, it never works
[03:30] <randomusr_> What software do I need to get PXE working and how should I configure?
[03:31] <jagginess> !pxe
[03:31] <randomusr_> jagginess, good try, but apparently the bot doesn't know that one
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> !pxe
[03:33] <randomusr_> ok, no one has a decent resource for this, got it
[03:34] <brennan> hkjhy
[03:35] <soulstitchmmo> Compiz is what controls all my windows right?
[03:36] <brennan> what version do you have?
[03:36] <soulstitchmmo> 12.04
[03:36] <soulstitchmmo> ubunu
[03:37] <soulstitchmmo> Compiz is using a lot of CPU. It spikes quite a bit.
[03:37] <brennan> i dont know dude you are prolly smarter than i am on linux
[03:38] <brennan> o shit that no good
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> soulstitchmmo: what GPU do you use?
[03:40] <soulstitchmmo> intel i7
[03:40] <soulstitchmmo> oh gpu
[03:40] <soulstitchmmo> amd
[03:41] <soulstitchmmo> 5800
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> soulstitchmmo: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display     do you see 2 video chips
[03:41] <DracoDanLRPC> I have a need for kernel 3.5 (Fiber channel target) for a home server, it needs to be fairly stable as it acts as the shared storage for a pair of ESXi hosts.  Would I be better off running 12.04 with the 3.5-quantzel kernel (which I'm doing now and it seems stable) or upgrading to 12.10 alpha1 and using the same kernel?
[03:41] <Arki> Hey all, I've got a question about gnome-shell in Ubuntu
[03:42] <Arki> What's the chat integration thing it's running, and how is it different to Unity's? (which I think is Empathy?)
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> DracoDanLRPC: I'd install 12.10
[03:42] <Arki> I want to use Empathy with the fancy notification dealies and all that but as far as I can tell whatever is currently running can only do Windows Live and Google
[03:43] <soulstitchmmo> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/w2Mv1ERi (thank you once again for helping me)
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> soulstitchmmo: weird. I thought i7s had inbuilt GPUs...
[03:44] <soulstitchmmo> it's a gaming rig built custom.
[03:44] <Arki> My understanding was that Gnome-shell's integrated thing /was/ Empathy but it doesn't seem to be, or at least it's not operating the same as it does under Unity. Help?
[03:46] <Arki> Oh uh
[03:46] <Arki> It seems to have integrated itself just fine..
[03:46] <Arki> But just didn't show it.
[03:46] <Arki> Never mind then!
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> soulstitchmmo: if you use Unity2D is it better?
[03:48] <soulstitchmmo> I don't know what I'm using now.
[03:48] <soulstitchmmo> ActionParsnip: I don't know what I'm using now.
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> soulstitchmmo: log off, click the ubuntu log near your username and select Unity2D then log in
[03:48] <soulstitchmmo> ActionParsnip: brb
[03:49] <XiRoN> I'm having a problem, when I type "su admin python" is says "Cant find: python"
[03:50] <XiRoN> What can I doto fix this?
[03:50] <Freeman> exit
[03:51] <soulstitchmmo> ActionParsnip: I changed the setting from Ubuntu, to Ubuntu 2d. That was correct right?
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: isn't it:  su -u admin python
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> soulstitchmmo: yes, then log in. Is it ok?
[03:52] <XiRoN> your amazing
[03:52] <soulstitchmmo> it's actually fantastic.
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: nope, I can just read the man page
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: it's  "you're" too ;)
[03:53] <soulstitchmmo> ActionParsnip: thank you very much I'll run things and see what the difference is, but I don't see barely any cpu usage at all.
[03:53] <XiRoN> ActionParsnip: I was just reading it, its wether you can understand it.
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: http://www.dba-oracle.com/t_linux_oracle_dba_53.htm  also helps :)
[03:53] <cfhowlett> *whether* *weather*
[03:54] <XiRoN> ActionParsnip: Well it probably didnt help that i was reading this > http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?su
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: here is how I found it: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=su+run+command+as+another+user
[03:56] <XiRoN> ActionParsnip: -u ?
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: to specify the username
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> (u)ser
[03:57] <rdx> hi all i am new here
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> rdx: welcome :)
[03:58] <rdx> i am looking for hacker
[03:58] <rdx> some infoz needed
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> rdx: try ##networking
[03:58] <rdx> anyone can help
[03:58] <XiRoN> ActionParsnip: fail
[03:59] <rdx> tq
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: huh?
[03:59] <XiRoN> ActionParsnip: -u doesnt work
[03:59] <jagginess> He means "u" as in negative.
[03:59] <XiRoN> ActionParsnip: :P
[04:00] <jagginess> LOL
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: then say that rather than 'fail' which tells me nothing
[04:00] <XiRoN> ActionParsnip: I thought I would participate in the bragging
[04:01] <jagginess> XiRoN, shtinkie
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: try -l
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: su -l admin python
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: do you have a desktop UI?
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: gksudo has the -u switch (see man page)
[04:03] <XiRoN> ActionParsnip: I managed to get "su admin -c 'python'"
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: nice
[04:03] <XiRoN> ActionParsnip: No im currently using ubuntu server
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: gotcha
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: you could alias the command if you intend to use it a lot
[04:04] <XiRoN> ActionParsnip: how do you mean?
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: are you going to be running 'su admin -c 'python'' quite a lot?
[04:05] <XiRoN> ActionParsnip: yes, a lot
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: then if you make an alias, you can type a single word and it will be transformed into that string each time
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: you probably use aliases without knowing, if you run:  type la
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: it shows that la isn't a command, it's an alias to:  ls -a
[04:06] <XiRoN> ActionParsnip: I wont personally be running the command myself, I'm using php_ssh2 to run it from a webserver.
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> XiRoN: ah, not sure they use aliases. oh well
[04:07] <XiRoN> ActionParsnip: but thanks anyway
[04:13] <evilhugbear> Has anyone managed to stop the screen-tearing? I have it not only in videos, but also throughout my whole desktop. I've looked at all the forum posts, etc. and not of the answers helped. :(
[04:15] <poppeye> evilhugbear, I have the same problem.
[04:15] <evilhugbear> I've used ubuntu off and on for the past year or two, and always have it :(
[04:16] <evilhugbear> It's with nVidia, btw
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> evilhugbear: what video chip?
[04:16] <XiRoN> How can I check if a specific process is running in 'ps x'
[04:16] <evilhugbear> GTX 670
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> evilhugbear: in nvidia-settings click sync to vsync
[04:16] <poppeye> I tried all the vsync settings in nvidia panel, tried all the compiz setting manager tricks, nothing changes it
[04:16] <evilhugbear> nvidia
[04:16] <evilhugbear> oops
[04:16] <evilhugbear> :P
[04:17] <evilhugbear> I already have Sync to VBlank checked
[04:17] <evilhugbear> in the OpenGL settings part of the X Server settings, coorect?
[04:17] <poppeye> the nvidia vsync doesn't properly work since unity
[04:17] <poppeye> at least on my pc
[04:17] <evilhugbear> I always have it checked in compiz
[04:18] <evilhugbear> poppeye: really? that sucks :(
[04:18] <poppeye> yeah, I have a mythtv setup too, so its quite annoying.  no probs in 10.04.  doesn't work right after upgrading
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> evilhugbear: tried the 2D session?
[04:19] <evilhugbear> 2D session? Is that one of those options through the login screen?
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> evilhugbear: yes
[04:20] <evilhugbear> I haven't tried it
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> evilhugbear: its worth exploring
[04:20] <poppeye> I've tried that.  it helps, but doesn't eliminate for me.
[04:20] <poppeye> its much less pronounced in 2d.
[04:20] <evilhugbear> What does 2D session change? As in eye-candy? xD
[04:20] <jagginess> evilhugbear, 3D-1D== 2D
[04:20] <jagginess> XD
[04:21] <evilhugbear> lol
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> evilhugbear: it uses metacity instead of compiz
[04:21] <poppeye> some transparancies stuff and fading windows and whatnot
[04:21] <evilhugbear> i might as well try it out :P
[04:21] <evilhugbear> I'll be right back
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> evilhugbear: its free and you can switch back again by logging off
[04:24] <evilhugbear> I'm in a 2D session now
[04:24] <evilhugbear> still tearing :(
[04:24] <evilhugbear> While in VLC, and while scrolling in the Chromium browser
[04:25] <poppeye> is it a little smoother now though?
[04:25] <evilhugbear> I actually don't notice a difference, really
[04:26] <poppeye> ok, I was getting this strange stutter with all the vsync stuff on in 3d
[04:26] <evilhugbear> It seems like all the solutions that actually worked in the forums were for ATI/AMD :P
[04:29] <subcool> ok, help- i am working on my gf's droidx, and i added a adb database. Since then i can no longer plug my samsung in and be recognized. The droid is seen, but the samsung isnt.
[04:35] <ehhtehh> hello i am running ubuntu 11.10 i think it is and on login screen i cant login to DT with correct password.. only ssh in remotely...when i try to login with correct passy it just flips back to login screen.
[04:35] <ehhtehh> here is a pastebin of the log
[04:35] <ehhtehh> http://pastebin.com/p0pSXhPK
[04:35] <ehhtehh> i think the prob is with lightdm
[04:35] <ehhtehh> but im not sure
[04:36] <ehhtehh> any help would be loved
[04:45] <histo> ehhtehh: can you see it in lsusb
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> ehhtehh: how much free space does the system partition have?
[04:47] <subins2000> Hi
[04:47] <subins2000> Can somebody help me ?
[04:47] <subins2000> Somebody Help ME
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> subins2000: ask and see
[04:48] <subins2000> I can't get on Failsafex Graphic mode on Ubuntu
[04:49] <ehhtehh> ohh i have plenty of room
[04:49] <smashbox> installing ubuntu 12.04 LTS perfect server, am getting fail error trying to install jailkit, "failed to make temp file" and "no such directory"
[04:49] <ehhtehh> its just an install and the only things i run on their are unreal ircd and anope services
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> ehhtehh: if you make a new user and log n as that, is it ok?
[04:50] <ehhtehh> well see
[04:50] <ehhtehh> thats the prob
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> !info jailkit
[04:50] <ehhtehh> even if i make a guest account
[04:50] <ehhtehh> it just flips back to login page
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> smashbox: is it from a PPA by any chance?
[04:50] <ehhtehh> even though passy is correct
[04:50] <ehhtehh> my friend seems to think its a prob with lightdm
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> ehhtehh: if you install gdm, is it ok?
[04:50] <smashbox> it's a .deb
[04:51] <ehhtehh> i did not do that yet
[04:51] <smashbox> from the source forge tutorile
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> smashbox: i suggest you contact whomever made it then.
[04:51] <ehhtehh> well like i said
[04:51] <ehhtehh> http://pastebin.com/p0pSXhPK
[04:51] <ehhtehh> thats the log of auth
[04:51] <ehhtehh> the last auth i tried
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> how can i clone the excact usb data from a win7 bootable usb with ubuntu?
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> ehhtehh: can you PM me it please, i'm having issue with pastebin now
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: use dd
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: ok tnx lemme try
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: actually, its loaded :)
[04:53] <ehhtehh> pmed
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: packagename loaded?
[04:54] <ehhtehh> like i said the login screen wont load the dt
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !info loaded
[04:54] <ehhtehh> but i know the passy is correct
[04:54] <deepspeed> anybody got an extra beer?
[04:55] <ehhtehh> hahha
[04:56] <todd_> ehhtehh: so, you punch the password in & it immediately takes you back to the login screen again?
[04:57] <d1gital_> Is there a way to prevent my system from waiting for dhcpcd on startup?
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> ehhtehh: try and see what: desktop dbus [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call"    means
[04:58] <d1gital_> also, can I shrink my / partition from my running system by remounting ro, or do I need to boot from external?
[05:00] <soulstitchmmo> d1gital_: I just did this tonight, reboot into your live cd(usb) and use it (don't insall) when you get into live cd, open up unity and type gparted.
[05:01] <d1gital_> soulstitchmmo: I know how to repartition using a livecd, I'm just wondering if I can do it without the livecd by remounting / read-only.
[05:01] <soulstitchmmo> d1gital_: that is beyond my knowledge.
[05:02] <d1gital_> oh well:  make backups, see if it breaks--that's one way to find out.
[05:08] <d1gital_> Can I shrink my / partition from my running system by remounting ro, or do I need to boot from external?
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> DigitalFlux: I'd use liveCD to be safe
[05:10] <ehhtehh> todd_ kinda it goes blank for a moment then takes me back to login screen.. but if i enter a false password it doesnt go blank just says wrong passy
[05:11] <d1gital_> Is there a way to prevent my system from waiting for dhcpcd on startup?
[05:12] <ehhtehh> i dont know maybe uninstall the package
[05:12] <ehhtehh> lol
[05:13] <ehhtehh> thats prolly lame advice.. i dont know how to do it via config...
[05:13] <ehhtehh> but there is  prolly some config option
[05:14] <d1gital_> as of right now, my system starts up much faster with "auto eth0" commented out in /etc/network/interfaces and bootchart shows dhcpcd taking several seconds while a parallel "sleep" call prevents anything else from happening.  I'd like to allow the rest of the system to start while dhcpcd is grabbing an address.  Is this possible?
[05:15] <ehhtehh> i still have a prob with login screen not loging into DT even with correct passy but i can ssh in no prob... it just wont start desktop...
[05:15] <dreamsound> ehhtehh: Did you look through this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1898329
[05:16] <ehhtehh> ohh
[05:16] <ehhtehh> here is the log of var/log/auth
[05:16] <ehhtehh> of the last attempt
[05:17] <aclocal> what is the software I can download to bridge to networks sudo apt-get what ?
[05:17] <aclocal> there must be a standard program for this
[05:17] <aclocal> and is it installed somewhere by default
[05:17] <aclocal> maybe its part of ip command ?
[05:17] <aclocal> anybody?
[05:18] <dreamsound> aclocal : bridge-utils I think
[05:19] <aclocal> thanks I wonder why this isn't installed by default ip ifconfig ,seems like bridging should be part of the network standard tools
[05:19] <Guest131> Hi there. I want to install Nvidia drivers to Ubuntu 12.04. Once i installed but resolution stucked on 400x640 or sth like that, i have 1366x768 display..what was the problem?
[05:20] <dreamsound> BRB
[05:22] <Guest131> as a reference my graphics card is INtel HD and  GeForce GT525M built-in. it worked fine with WIndows 7 before installing UBuntu properly
[05:23] <subins2000> Hello
[05:23] <sandman> Anybody know of an Mac OS X Server alternative? Where all you have to do to enable a service is just check a box, and everything pre-configured, set to go, and it Just Works?
[05:24] <subins2000> I have a Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and I want to boot using failsafex on Recovery Mode
[05:24] <sandman> And then past that, you can configure it however you like.
[05:24] <subins2000> But the failsafex is not working
[05:24] <Guest131>  who is good at graphics card installation?
[05:24] <subins2000> is there anyone who can help me
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> sandman: the server installation CD gives yu options what you want to install, you can install stuff later using packages
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> sandman: the server OS has no gui for performance and security reasons, its all CLI
[05:26] <sandman> Well, that's okay so long as there's a decent CLI interface, and it's not all just command-line =)
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> sandman: there are some curses UIs for stuff, most stuff is all CLI
[05:26] <sandman> Ug.
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> sandman: you can always install the desktop OS and run it as a server
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> sandman: its good to learn the cli, your skills will be transferrable to other UNIX/Linux servers
[05:27] <sandman> It's not about the GUI, so much. It's just to setup a service in *nix, you generally have a lot of reading to do.
[05:27] <subins2000> Is there anone who can help me ?
[05:27] <sandman> I already know all about CLI @ *nix =)
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> sandman: it also allows you to manage it easily via SSH
[05:28] <sandman> I've been doing it for more than a decade. I just find it amazing there's nothing that Just Works out of the box, after this long lol
[05:28] <Guest131>  NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT NVIDIA GRAPHICS CARD INSTALLATION ISSUES ON 12.04?!
[05:28] <sandman> I figured if any distro would be doing this, it would be Ubuntu.
[05:28] <subins2000> Guest131: That's my problem too
[05:28] <subins2000> Guest131: Nvidia Sucks on Linux
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: kill the caps
[05:29] <Guest131>  I feel jerked off noone makes sense! WTF?!
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> subins2000: never had an issue in 10 years
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: what nvidia gpu?
[05:29] <subins2000> Guest131: I can't boot in to Ubuntu because of Nvidia
[05:30] <Guest131>  subins2000, i need nvidia for XMBC, Unity 3D interface and so on
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: doesn't answer my question, doesit
[05:31] <subins2000> ActionParsnip: I know how to fix Nvidia Driver Problem
[05:31] <dreamsound> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1903786
[05:31] <subins2000> ActionParsnip: But I need Failsafex
[05:31] <subins2000> ActionParsnip: But my failsafex is not working
[05:32] <Guest131>  ActionParsnip, you should make sense before caps on. thanks!
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> !polite | Guest131
[05:32] <halp> The brightness scrollbar is missing from brightness and lock and my screen is dim
[05:32] <halp> Ubuntu 12.04
[05:33] <Guest131> subins2000, i installed nvidia with instructions but it come up with 640x400 resolution and not available to change
[05:33] <subins2000> hmmmmmm
[05:33] <dreamsound> halp: does function+up arrow work?
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: what nvidia gpu do you use?
[05:33] <subins2000> that's not a big problem
[05:33] <halp> Not really
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> subins2000: is this in a laptop?
[05:34] <subins2000> ActionParsnip: no
[05:34] <halp> You mean the chart looking button opposite the super key?
[05:34] <Guest131>  ActionParsnip,  GeForce GT525M
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: and which nvidia driver are you using?
[05:35] <halp> I saw screenshots though, there should be a brightness bar in brightness and lock
[05:35] <dreamsound> halp: not sure about your keyboard, mine has ctrl-fn-win(super?)-alt on the left of the spacebar
[05:35] <dreamsound> fn:function
[05:35] <grendal> hey i need shortcut keys for my gnome classic desktop..what happend to those..
[05:36] <grendal> like ctrl+alt+d for my desktop
[05:36] <Guest131> ActionParsnip, already said
[05:36] <halp> On the left side? I have Ctrl+win+alt
[05:36] <subins2000> ActionParsnip: How to fix the failsafex problem
[05:37] <dreamsound> K. Your keyboard is different than mine :-)
[05:37] <halp> But on the right side, I have crtrl+?+win+alt
[05:37] <halp> The ? button is unknown to me
[05:37] <halp> It looks like a clipboard
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: you said the chip, not the driver version you have installed
[05:38] <halp> I don't know what to do...my screen is so dim
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: read what I write, not what you think I write
[05:38] <grendal> neverind i found dabitches
[05:38] <Guest131>  I did not installed yet
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: if you run:  nvidia-settings    you will see
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: sounds like your display device (screen / TV) isn't reporting EDID correctly
[05:39] <dreamsound> I think the ? is a menu button...kind of like right clicking.
[05:39] <halp> Sorry my terminal crashed
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: what if you run:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current   it will install them if you do not have them already
[05:40] <halp> Some help about why my screen is dim?
[05:41] <Guest131>  I did what you said but the problem is resolution sucked
[05:41] <halp> Strange thing is that plymouth also dims when loading
[05:42] <halp> But I have no brightness issues in Windows as I dual boot.  :/
[05:42] <Guest131>  glxinfo says Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0" and Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[05:43] <dreamsound> halp: what monitor do you have?
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: did the package install ok, or was it already installed?
[05:43] <halp> I'm using a laptop
[05:44] <dreamsound> Is it a samsung?
[05:44] <halp> Toshiba
[05:44] <dreamsound> which one?
[05:44] <Guest131>  Now im trying to reinstall nvidia again. Current is default Ubuntu video card (purged nvidia)
[05:44] <halp> Satelite L675D-S7104
[05:45] <dreamsound> K...I'm looking around
[05:45] <Guest131>  now im in the "unity --reset" procedure. should I continue?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: no, current is the proprietary driver which must be installed
[05:46] <randall> hello ubuntu, if I dual-boot thw new 12.04 will my CX23880/1/2/3 capture card work out of the box?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: nouveau is the open source driver which is default installed and used on first boot
[05:47] <Guest131> but nouveau does not support lots of things like Unity 3D
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: if you install nvidia-current then run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot, is it ok?
[05:48] <dreamsound> halp: 2nd button from bottom left looks like the fn key. fn+ up arrow brightens up the screen on my laptop & my netbook
[05:48] <micadeyeye> i tried formatting a microsd card and when i restarted my computer, it won't boot.
[05:48] <micadeyeye>  i get error "no usable disk found"
[05:48] <micadeyeye>  kindly help!
[05:48] <Guest131>  ALright guys, im gonna do unity --reset hope it works well
[05:48] <micadeyeye>  the sdcard is also accessible when I tried accessing it on another computer.
[05:49] <halp> What does the FN key look like?
[05:49] <micadeyeye> this is the error i get when I tried accessing the sdcard - http://fpaste.org/KYkb/
[05:49] <micadeyeye> i used the script - http://omappedia.org/wiki/Android_SD_Configuration#Script_to_partition.2Fformat_SDCards
[05:49] <micadeyeye>  and i did sudo "./omap3-mkcard.sh /dev/mmcblk0"
[05:49] <Guest131> ActionParsnip, i really installed nvidia that way but resolution lacked
[05:49] <micadeyeye> please help out.
[05:49] <dreamsound> halp: it's between the ctrl key and the win key on the left.
[05:49] <l00pback_> Hey guys I just installed 12.04 onto my comp....I just wanna know if there's any way to play high end graphics games(like f1 2011 or FIFA 12) using wine!??
[05:50] <halp> It has the clipboard drawing?
[05:50] <Guest131>  ActinParsnip, anyway thanks for advice
[05:50] <dreamsound> halp: You might also try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/display-dimscreen.html
[05:51] <halp> Is this a unity or gnome hotkey?
[05:51] <halp> I'm in JWM
[05:51] <micadeyeye> please help! i can't access the disks
[05:52] <dreamsound> halp: the left side, not the right. The clipboard key on the right is a menu button, it's like right clicking.
[05:52] <l00pback_> dreamsound: Any ideas?
[05:52] <ehhtehh> dreamsound sorry i took a bit.. here is the pastebin
[05:52] <ehhtehh> http://pastebin.com/h9TEXvnV
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> halp: press SuperL and the desh should load
[05:52] <halp> But I don't have an extra key on the left.  I guess I don't have that key
[05:53] <halp> But...I'm in JWM
[05:54] <micadeyeye> i get "no usable disks have been found." when i used an installer.
[05:55] <halp> Oh, I do have an FN key it seems.  But my laptop's keyboard is broken
[05:55] <dreamsound> ehhtehh: no problem. I'm lookin
[05:55] <halp> So I'm using a usb keyboard
[05:55] <halp> :(
[05:56] <dreamsound> halp: Ok. Did you look at this? https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/display-dimscreen.html
[05:57] <halp> Do I have to go into Unity?
[05:57] <halp> I tried that
[05:58] <dreamsound> l00pback: Install wine & try it I guess. I got Cakewalk's sonar to run...sort of. Wine sometimes works and sometime's it's more hassle than it's worth.
[05:58] <halp> There's no brightness setings in power management
[05:58] <l00pback_> Ok thanks dreamsound !
[05:58] <halp> It takes me to brightness and lock :(
[05:58] <halp> And the brightness slider is missing
[05:58] <hellohaksung> ?
[05:59] <micadeyeye> hello!!!!!
[05:59] <dreamsound> l00pback: sure. The other thing you could do is just install virtualbox & a win7 or xp install if you have to have win & Ubuntu on the same screen
[06:00] <dreamsound> halp: I'm out of ideas then...throw it out :-)
[06:00] <l00pback_> Ok dreamsound
[06:02] <wachpwnski> I just installed ubuntu desktop on a vm, and it wont start the gui
[06:02] <wachpwnski> Do i have to start it manually or is this an issue with vmware?
[06:04] <Guest131>  ActionParsnip, i got a serious problem.
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> wachpwnski: what vmware settings have you tweaked?
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: ask the channel and it will reply if it can
[06:04] <micadeyeye> /dev/sda: unrecognized disk label
[06:05] <wachpwnski> ActionParsnip: nothing, it auto dectected everything I just installed desktop 12.04
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> wachpwnski: yes but you setup the VM which it is running in duidn't you, it has settings
[06:06] <Guest131>  After installing Nvidia driver. stopped X. sudo nvidia-xconfig. started X and the view is terrible 640x480 display! : http://oi50.tinypic.com/2q81vl3.jpg
[06:06] <wachpwnski> I didn't set anything other than the ram to 2gb
[06:06] <wachpwnski> I just did startx
[06:06] <wachpwnski> and it loaded up
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> wachpwnski: you can tweak the video chip and 3D accelleration and so forth
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: yep your display device isn't great, what resolution do you use?
[06:08] <Guest131>  1366x768
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: and why have you installed apps wen you haven't got something as fundamental as the display, configured
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: here is my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1124726/  use it but change the res to what you use
[06:09] <Guest131>  what do i do with it?
[06:10] <winson> hi everybody
[06:10] <fred-fri> i just did export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/something, how can i undo that?
[06:11] <wachpwnski> exit that terminal
[06:11] <wachpwnski> environment is terminal session specific only
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    paste in those lines, then edit the resolution to what you want to use, save the file and reboot
[06:12] <ehhtehh> dreamsound ???
[06:13] <l00pback_> I think evrybody here agrees that Ubuntu 12.04= Mac OS X Dark Edition
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> l00pback_: i wouldn't
[06:14] <l00pback_> Oh
[06:14] <fred-fri> say i want to add the folder home/<user>/programs/play to my path using the .profile file, how do i do that?
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> l00pback_: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f2xo0mk3h51ywie/Desktop.png   looks like mac?
[06:16] <ehhtehh> dreamsound sorry i took a bit.. here is the pastebin
[06:16] <ehhtehh> http://pastebin.com/h9TEXvnV
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> l00pback_: if anything it looks more like win vista / win 7 with the bottom panel..wouldn't you say?
[06:18] <Guest131> ActionParsnip, I do not want to harm my display, please look up my cofig file and say what should I change what not. http://pastebin.com/cbrLJRhw
[06:18] <dreamsound> I think my my connection has constipation.
[06:18] <dreamsound> ehhtehh: http://askubuntu.com/questions/161736/ubuntu-box-just-redisplaying-login-screen-after-update
[06:18] <dreamsound> not sure if you got that or not
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: thats teh default file made by nvidia-xconfig   ts nothing special
[06:18] <ehhtehh> ahh thats what happened
[06:19] <ehhtehh> thanks let me check it out
[06:19] <Guest131> like there is no Option         "Xinerama" "0" in mine
[06:19] <vokevybez> how to run linux executable files
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: that's fine
[06:19] <l00pback__> ActionParsnip: The default 12.04 view looks like mac osx dark edition
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> Guest131: it's more the resolutions and refresh rates you need so the driver loads, you monitor isn't reportng EDID like good monitors do, so thedriver doesn't load right
[06:20] <Guest131>  or your Section Monitor's device name is Toshiba 32FPDEU-DA20..it seems Unknown in mine. what should I write over it?
[06:21] <disappearedng> Is there anyway to have sudo use your bashrc file?
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> l00pback__: all the screenshots I've seen look nothing like unity, the fact there is an app bar is quite trivial in the looks stakes, MacOS looks completely different save for global menu and close,min,max on the left
[06:21] <subdesign> ubuntu upgrades overwrite the previous version, or leave them in the system?
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> disappearedng: to achieve what? It uses the variables and such in the bashrc file by default
[06:23] <L3top> Guest131: xrandr -q   in a pastebin please. Also please give me the output of lspci -nnk | grep VGA  in there.
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> l00pback__: mac os X dark edition doesn't even exist
[06:23] <dreamsound> BRB
[06:24] <L3top> Guest131: make that lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A2
[06:24] <disappearedng> well I have alias rm to something else and when I use sudo I want to use that script instead
[06:24] <l00pback__> Ok ActionParsnip agree
[06:24] <Guest131> ok
[06:25] <Guest131> L3top, http://pastebin.com/3wUDnbdr xrandr -q
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> disappearedng: it should use it as long as you have ran:  source ~/.bashrc
[06:26] <Guest131> L3ptop, http://pastebin.com/5YXievjV   lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A2
[06:26] <L3top> Guest131: do you have any adapters in between your monitors connection to the PC?
[06:27] <L3top> Ok Guest131 is this a laptop by chance?
[06:27] <Guest131> no it's DELL Inspiron N5110 15R laptop
[06:27] <L3top> how is that a no answer?
[06:27] <L3top> lol
[06:27] <IlikeMoose> I'm filing a unity bug but i need to know what the official name is for the wireless network selection icon in the upper right hand corner of unity.
[06:27] <Guest131> i typed for former question
[06:28] <L3top> Ah... to the video monitor connection... Guest131 you have an optimus chipset. You will need to install bumblebee for any shot at this working politely
[06:29] <Guest131> you mean I won't be able to use Nvidia on Ubuntu? only bumblebee?
[06:29] <UbuntuNoob> Hello.. can anyone in here help me update icedtea?
[06:29] <Guest131> Nvidia worked fine on WIndows, even I run UBuntu throught WUBI into Windows
[06:29] <L3top> Bumblebee will allow the use of the nvidia gpu... I am actually not sure if it runs only nouveau or will run the proprietary driver as well.
[06:30] <L3top> Yes Guest131 that is because nVidia created this piece of... with no linux support whatsoever.
[06:30] <L3top> And no plans to ever support it in linux.
[06:30] <dreamsound> nVidia sucks.
[06:30] <Guest131> ok. give me the guide to do whatsoever cure my display as soon as possible
[06:31] <L3top> Otherwise I like nvidia... but this optimus thing is a crock
[06:31] <Guest131> lecture starts in 30 mins and im home :/
[06:31] <timfrost> UbuntuNoob: what do you mean by 'update icedtea' ?
[06:31] <ehhtehh> dreamsound
[06:32] <L3top> http://bumblebee-project.org/
[06:32] <UbuntuNoob> the icedtea plugin, which I use in chrome to display java applets, claims that it needs to be updated
[06:32] <dreamsound> present
[06:32] <Guest131> Everything can be found there, right?..i'll do it afterwards then
[06:32] <L3top> yep.
[06:33] <timfrost> UbuntuNoob: if you have the updates repository enabled, you will be offered the new version of icedtea when the Ubuntu developers package it
[06:33] <Guest131>  thank you very much, sir.
[06:34] <Kartagis> timfrost: you remember my flash issue from yesterday or the day before?
[06:35] <UbuntuNoob> timfrost: I'm quite sure it actually did that the other day, but chrome still claims it needs to be updated
[06:35] <ehhtehh> dreamsound i get this ... ~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[06:35] <ehhtehh> [sudo] password for server:
[06:35] <ehhtehh> dpkg-maintscript-helper: warning: environment variable DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_NAME missing
[06:35] <ehhtehh> dpkg-maintscript-helper: warning: environment variable DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_PACKAGE missing
[06:36] <ehhtehh> im lost
[06:37] <Kartagis> export them
[06:37] <timfrost> UbuntuNoob: have you restarted chrome since you installed the update?  Most browsers won't pick up the new version of a plugin without being restarted
[06:37] <dreamsound> isn't it lightgdm ?
[06:37] <UbuntuNoob> timfrost: yes, my computer has been shut down since
[06:39] <lpe> morning fellas, what could possibly be the cause of random freezes for ~2 seconds every minute? the whole OS just freezes and then it stop again, even sound and everything
[06:39] <UbuntuNoob> timfrost: Chrome says: "Icedtea was blocked because it is out of date"
[06:39] <ehhtehh> dreamsound no its not
[06:39] <lpe> just a point in the right direction would be greatly appriciated
[06:40] <ehhtehh> dreamsound its lightdm
[06:40] <dreamsound> ehhtehh: you're right...it's lightdm
[06:40] <ehhtehh> dreamsound i just reinstalled some stuff
[06:40] <lpe> not a single word in any logs or so
[06:41] <lpe> very odd
[06:41] <ehhtehh> so lets try this agian
[06:43] <UbuntuNoob> timfrost: I'll try and reboot, brb
[06:43] <wachpwnski> how do I set startx to launch on boot?
[06:44] <ehhtehh> dreamseed same dumb result
[06:44] <ehhtehh> no login via dt
[06:44] <ehhtehh> only via ssh
[06:45] <ehhtehh> i dont want to not learn about this prob and just reinstall
[06:45] <timfrost> wachpwnski: you shouldn't need to - a display manager, such as gdm, should be installed that manages starting the X server at boot
[06:45] <ehhtehh> but i might have too
[06:45] <danielbauwens> Can someone help me with a little problem?
[06:45] <sukuri> In the new version of Unity, is it possible to have [Alt] + [Tab] tab between all the different windows, not just the windows of the current application?
[06:45] <wachpwnski> timfrost: it's not i keep getting VMware Easy Install PLEASE WAIT!
[06:45] <ehhtehh> ask question daniel
[06:46] <zh> lpe: Tried opening system monitor or top and watching to see if anything spikes in CPU/RAM usage? A start maybe.
[06:46] <ehhtehh> cant help if we dont know whats wrong
[06:46] <danielbauwens> I have updated to 12.04 yesterday, and now i keep getting log outs
[06:46] <danielbauwens> like i got 2 in 1 hour
[06:46] <ehhtehh> hmm
[06:46] <ehhtehh> hmm
[06:46] <ehhtehh> im having some strange probs with it too
[06:46] <dreamsound> ehhtehh I know how it is for sure. I have to get lost though. Wife wants to go to bed..
[06:47] <danielbauwens> This same thing?
[06:47] <ehhtehh> okay
[06:47] <dreamsound> If you punch your error into google, there's a collection of different ways to go with it.
[06:47] <ehhtehh> okay
[06:47] <timfrost> wachpwnski: I run vmware workstation, and I avoid easy install, preferring to set up the VM then do the install
[06:47] <dreamsound> I'll catch you later, but best of luck getting it sorted out
[06:47] <ehhtehh> than ks for ya time dreamsound
[06:47] <dreamsound> later all
[06:47] <ehhtehh> gn
[06:47] <dreamsound> no problem :-)
[06:48] <danielbauwens> bye
[06:48] <danielbauwens> I found something
[06:48] <danielbauwens> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1904791&page=3
[06:49] <danielbauwens> Here someone describes exactly how it is with me
[06:49] <danielbauwens> "This bug has been affecting me as well. Two spontaneous logouts in 1 day wherein the screen will go dark for a few seconds after which the login screen appears. All work lost. "
[06:50] <lpe> zh: yeah, got that running as well as a tail on pertty much every single logfile
[06:50] <lpe> zh: no output at all
[06:51] <UbuntuNoob> timfrost: still here?
[06:51] <wachpwnski> timfrost: trying that now. I am sure it did something lame.
[06:51] <timfrost> UbuntuNoob: yes.  Any luck?
[06:52] <danielbauwens> going to try #ubuntu-bugs
[06:52] <sukuri>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/68151/how-do-i-revert-alt-tab-behavior-to-switch-between-windows-on-the-current-worksp this seems to have worked
[06:52] <UbuntuNoob> timfrost: sadly no. I tried rebooting, and it still says the same. I even tried removing all icedtea packages via synaptic package maneger, and re-install it
[06:53] <kkerwin> Hi. Looking for some help setting up exim4 to use a smarthost. I believe that I have it setup, but don't see an email delivered to the specified receipient.
[06:54] <UbuntuNoob> timfrost: I get the same errormessage, and if I then push "Run this time" an error occurs: "Could not load icedtea-web plugin (using icedtea-web 1.2(1.2-2ubuntu1.1))
[06:58] <timfrost> UbuntuNoob: How did you install chrome?
[06:58] <UbuntuNoob> timfrost: It's a long time ago, I can't remember. Can I find that information somewhere?
[06:59] <UbuntuNoob> timfrost: I just found this, which might be the reason for my troubles: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg3755301.html
[07:00] <timfrost> UbuntuNoob: certainly worth exploring.  Good luck
[07:01] <Like> Is there a channel for ubuntu android???
[07:02] <UbuntuNoob> timfrost: thank you, thanks for helping
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> !android
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> !droid
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> howto create a win7 bootable usb with ubuntu?
[07:05] <zh> Like: I don't think so, or I don't see one listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList at least
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> !info winusb
[07:06] <timfrost> Kartagis: I don't recall a flash issue.  I know I confused myself (and possibly others:) over sshfs
[07:09] <Like> I tired a few installs of ubuntu core image with the android market but the www of ubuntu says sad we are there a system any one know some of prospect thx: nicholas
[07:12] <netAction> Hi! I need to fix someone's computer. I think it is possible if he logins on my machine via ssh. What is the parameter he need for this?
[07:12] <MonkeyDu1t> netAction basically  ssh remote user@remote IP
[07:13] <netAction> MonkeyDu1t: Thanks!
[07:13] <MonkeyDu1t> netAction correction  ssh your user@remote IP
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> Like: i think there was a project for ubuntu on tablets..not sure whats it called
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> oops gone
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> anyone know howto fix this anoying mouse pointer bug? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+question/144040
[07:17] <timfrost> netAction: why can't you connect to his machine directly via ssh (or vnc)?
[07:26] <caren> yo
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> caren: whats up
[07:31] <habib_> hey everyone. i'm trying to watch movie and there is no sound. how to install size codecs
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> habib_:did you try the movie on vlc?
[07:33] <habib_> lotuspsychje, thnx it worked
[07:40] <Andy80> hi guys! Do you know which IRC channel is more appropriate to talk about this project https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuReleaseSprint ? Thanks :)
[07:53] <AdvoWork> Hi there. I need to rsync some files from a folder (/mnt/teststuff) on a server 0.50 to another server on my network(/mnt/newstuff) on 0.40, ssh is enabled on both, can I even do this?
[07:53] <Benkinooby> hi, my clock on ubuntu 10.04 is going mad... every time i reset it it will be wrong latest the next day... by hours! i have windows on my coputer with dual boot but neever booted it in the last month... my hwclock is correct
[07:53] <localg0d> I lost the menu's and clock on top and bottom after my computer froze and had to reboot .. anyone got a clue as to how to restore this desktop to it's last known session etc ?
[07:54] <DJones> Benkinooby: Are you switching the computer off overnight? Could be the cmos battery is on its way out
[07:54] <llutz_> AdvoWork:  rsync -aux /mnt/teststuff   machine2:/mnt/teststuff
[07:54] <Benkinooby> DJones, no, it's standby
[07:55] <Benkinooby> DJones, as i said, my hardware cloch (=bios clock) is correct
[07:55] <localg0d> can someone please let me know ? it's imperative ....
[07:55] <Benkinooby> DJones, seems that some settings are wrong
[07:55] <nmmm> hi
[07:55] <Benkinooby> DJones, do you know how to read the adjtime file?
[07:55] <DJones> Benkinooby: That was my only idea, the only other thing I can think of is that you've the time being updated from the internet and its selected the wrong country, but I don't know how you'd check for that
[07:56] <nmmm> what could be the reason when turn on the server, the grub to start normally, including the graphical picture,
[07:56] <Benkinooby> DJones, my clock wanders of by 50 minutes, 5 minutes, 25 minutes, 3 hours 4 minues... so it's not off my exact hours as a wrong time zone setting might cuase
[07:57] <Benkinooby> cause
[07:57] <nmmm> but not to count down. so only way to boot is to pres a key and boot from the menu
[07:57] <localg0d> I lost the menu's and clock on top and bottom after my computer froze and had to reboot .. anyone got a clue as to how to restore this desktop to it's last known session etc ?
[08:00] <localg0d> fk it .. later
[08:02] <AdvoWork> llutz, do i definately need aux? ux i will, but archive?
[08:04] <llutz_> AdvoWork: use whatever options you need
[08:05] <AdvoWork> will archive literally reduce the size, or will it archive it up into one folder if you get me?
[08:05] <llutz_> AdvoWork: it wont, "man rsync"
[08:05] <MoneyDust> AdvoWork  http://linuxmanpages.com/man1/rsync.1.php
[08:05] <MoneyDust> AdvoWork  -z compresses
[08:07] <AdvoWork> what if applying --numeric-ids  will that have any affect on the archive mode?
[08:07] <llutz_> AdvoWork: it shouldnt
[08:10] <robertzaccour> Is there a good program I can use to paint stuff on photos besides Gimp?
[08:10] <BUSTACAP> Does ubuntu have something similar to windows' EPDump?
[08:10] <llutz_> AdvoWork: but if you need to preserve ownership of files (not yours), you need to run rsync as root
[08:11] <llutz_> BUSTACAP: you maybe should explain what EPDump is?
[08:12] <BUSTACAP> Stands for endpoint dump. It's a port mapper.
[08:13] <Lloir> it can also be used for other unethical things
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> anyone know howto fix this anoying mouse pointer bug? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+question/144040
[08:14] <IdleOne> Lloir: so can a hammer.
[08:14] <RaLad> hi!
[08:14] <Lloir> true true
[08:15] <MoneyDust> robertzaccour  try CinePaint, i havent used it myself, tho http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/2008091312364896/Graphics.html
[08:15] <robertzaccour> MoneyDust: oh ok thanks
[08:17] <AdvoWork> May be a silly question but if doing rsync -aux --numeric-ids /mnt/test 192.168.0.50:/mnt/oldtest do I need a / after the test/(ie source folder) i'm doing files/folders.
[08:19] <llutz_> AdvoWork: if you dont add a /, you'll get /mnt/oldtest/test. if you use source/ it will copy the files, not the dir
[08:20] <soulstitchmmo> is there a terminal command to log out?
[08:21] <misantropen> Can someone please confirm that "grep" is stored in /bin/. It is important!
[08:21] <AdvoWork> llutz, but isnt that copying files from oldtest > test, if it would create /mnt/oldtest/test is the rsync therefore backwards?
[08:22] <misantropen> Don't have access to Linux atm
[08:22] <misantropen> It should take you 5sec
[08:22] <zh> misantropen: It is.
[08:22] <misantropen> zh: Win!
[08:22] <kartlos> hi guys
[08:22] <llutz_> AdvoWork: no
[08:22] <misantropen> zh: Got a hater here who complains that my guide is wrong
[08:22] <MoneyDust> misantropen  type locate grep|less
[08:23] <llutz_> MoneyDust: "which grep" if he would have been on a linux-system
[08:24] <zh> soulstitchmmo: I think it's gnome-session-quit
[08:24] <soulstitchmmo> thank you zh
[08:24] <kartlos> yesterday I installed 12.04 on my macbook pro5.3, the battery life is very poor (2.5 hours max) even while using the proprietary drivers, I tried configuring Xorg but my xorg.conf seems to be kinda empty, is this normal?
[08:25] <AdvoWork> llutz, ahh, no slash = makes the directory /test and then puts the files in there, with a slash it copies it directly to the destination. sorry, get it now
[08:25] <MoneyDust> llutz_  that works too, two know more than one
[08:25] <jess88> hi, can someone help me with isntalling void11
[08:25] <MoneyDust> misantropen  tell your friend this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
[08:26] <AdvoWork> but the trailing slash on the destination appears to make no difference?
[08:26] <jess88> hello?
[08:26] <llutz_> AdvoWork: true
[08:27] <kartlos> anybody using ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[08:27] <geirha> misantropen: Where grep is located should be irrelevant as long as it's in one of the directories in PATH
[08:28] <jess88> hello?
[08:28] <ssta> it tends to be in /bin, for good reasons
[08:28] <MoneyDust> kartlos  yeah, xorg.conf is no longer used
[08:28] <kartlos> thanks MoneyDust, but the ubuntu website says that I must edit my xorg.conf
[08:28] <kartlos> is there another way?
[08:28] <ssta> geirha: grep is part of the set of "essential" toolset that is in /bin so that the system always has those basic tools available even if /usr is not mounted
[08:29] <llutz_> ssta: historical reasons. does the division /[s]bin /usr/[s]bin still makes sense?
[08:29] <misantropen> MoneyDust: geirha: We'll see about that. He also claims it is wrong to call Linux "Linux". Is he living in the 90:s lol?
[08:29] <ssta> llutz_: yes.  /usr does NOT need to be the same filesystem as /
[08:29] <llutz_> ssta: i know
[08:29] <MoneyDust> misantropen  if he regers to "gnu/linux", mister RMS will agree
[08:29] <MoneyDust> refers*
[08:29] <ssta> llutz_: whether /bin and /sbin difference makes sense is a different question, but on the whole, I quite like it still
[08:30] <misantropen> MoneyDust: Torvalds is on our side though
[08:30] <MoneyDust> misantropen  please continue in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:31] <kartlos> does anyone know how to enable the powermizer functionality of the nvidia driver in 12.04?
[08:38] <kartlos> so nobody is using ubuntu on a mac here?
[08:41] <Dmitry`> on macs people use MacOS, I suppose
[08:41] <kartlos> MacOS sucks
[08:41] <Dmitry`> lol why mac when you can slack :P
[08:41] <kartlos> it's actually my laptop from work
[08:41] <kartlos> the force us into using macs
[08:41] <kartlos> so I want to install linux
[08:42] <ma-dean> that'll show 'em
[08:42] <kartlos> my thoughts exactly
[08:43] <Matrixfox> that's a money saver
[08:43] <gaoshijie> what?
[08:45] <ram_> Ubuntu is not shutting down properly ! I could still see the power light on. What should I do ?
[08:46] <MoneyDust> ram_  try sudo init 0 -- it's rather drastic but see if it helps
[08:47] <sveinse> I have a DNS problem on my laptop. I'm running ubuntu, xfce4 with NM. Is there a way to control some kind of metric for /etc/resolv.conf?
[08:49] <sveinse> I connect to eth network at work. And at the same time NM is overly eager to connect to a WiFi network which does not have access to the company lan. Hence it proposes a totally different DNS server. Both the internal and external dns domain is listed in /etc/resolv.conf and hence 50% of my internal dns requests fails, which is very annoying
[08:55] <jess88> can someone help me with installing void11?
[08:55] <jess88> hello?
[08:56] <susundberg> !find void11
[08:56] <susundberg> jess88: what thing would that be?
[08:59] <jess88> its a program for testing wireless security
[09:01] <Guest131>  I got an issue with GIMP image editor that does not start
[09:01] <jess88> hello?
[09:02] <MoneyDust> jess88  don't say 'hello?' too often
[09:03] <Ascavasaion> I want to install an application onto my Ubuntu system.  The version in Synaptic is 1.0 and the latest from the software's site is 1.5.2  I installed 1.0 but sample date I tried does not work.  The problem is that on their site the software is only available in .jar format.  The software is OpenJump (www.openjump.org - http://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/OpenJUMP/1.5.2/) any tips and advice would be much appreciated.
[09:05] <Guest131>  Gimp does not start. what to do?
[09:06] <kartlos> how can I configure Xorg in 12.04?
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> Ascavasaion:  normal way wuld be to find a ppa. or just use their version and install it following their directions. (or use source)
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> Guest131:  run it from terminal, look for error messages to start debuging.
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> kartlos:  configure it to do what? Normally X auto configures for the most part these days. ATI and Nvidia both have their own config tools if using the FGLRX or Nvidia Drivers.
[09:09] <llutz_> Ascavasaion: get the soft from the website, put it into lets say "~/opt/openJump", run it from there (java -jar ~/opt/OpenJump/whatever.jar)
[09:09] <kartlos> Dr_Willis: I am using ubuntu on a macbook pro, I want to enable the powermizer functionality because battery life really sucks without it
[09:09] <Guest131>  Dr_Willis, which command runs gimp from terminal? if gimp, i tried. Error is "gimp: error while loading shared libraries: libgegl-0.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[09:09] <llutz_> !find libgegl-0.0.so.0
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> Guest131:  i belive the command is 'gimp' so it seems you are somehow mising a library
[09:09] <llutz_> Guest131: sudo apt-get install --reinsall libgegl-0.0-0
[09:09] <llutz_> Guest131: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgegl-0.0-0
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> !find libgegl-0.0.so.0
[09:10] <Guest131>  I'll try now. thanks
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> wonder how that lib got removed, or failed to install..
[09:11] <llutz_> true, gimp depends on it
[09:11] <Guest131>  Successfully reinstalled. Gimp does not start anyhow!
[09:12] <kartlos> Dr_Willis: what is the nvidia config tool called?
[09:12] <llutz_> Guest131: pastebin "ldd $(which gimp)" please
[09:12] <llutz_> kartlos: nvidia-settings
[09:12] <kartlos> llutz_: thank you
[09:13] <Guest131>  I didn't get you Ilutz_
[09:13] <Guest131>  gimp version needed?
[09:13] <llutz_> Guest131: type "ldd $(which gimp)" without quotes into a terminal and paste the output into pastebin
[09:13] <llutz_> !paste | Guest131
[09:15] <gvo> What exactly does !pastebininit do?
[09:15] <rodxavier> build22
[09:15] <rodxavier> #build22
[09:15] <Guest131> Oh, I'm not familiar with $ into..http://pastebin.com/eWCQ51ZS
[09:17] <llutz_> !find libbab1-0.0.so.0
[09:17] <llutz_> !find libbabl-0.0.so.0
[09:17] <llutz_> Guest131: sudo apt-get install --reinstall  libbabl-0.0-0
[09:17] <gvo> Guest131: what flavor of Ubuntu?
[09:18] <Guest131>  gvo, Pangolin Precise
[09:19] <Ascavasaion> llutz: Thank you very very much!
[09:19] <llutz_> Guest131: you also might need to "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch" (not sure)
[09:20] <Guest131>  llutz_ Same problem. i better send you pastebin of reinstalling to make you sure, ha
[09:20] <gvo> llutz_: Notice he's missing libgegl-0.0.so.0 => not found too?
[09:21] <llutz_> gvo notice my "Guest131: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgegl-0.0-0" before ;)
[09:21] <gvo> Oh, sorry.
[09:21] <Guest131>  http://pastebin.com/jv2DT5v5
[09:21] <kartlos> it appears my macbook pro has two graphics cards (nvidia 9400 and 9600) ubuntu is using the later which consumes more power and gets hotter, the 9400 card isn't detected, does anyone know how I can switch?
[09:21] <gvo> llutz_: Maybe remove gimp entirely and reinstall?
[09:22] <llutz_> gvo: makes no sense to me, but ...
[09:22] <gvo> OK just a thought.
[09:22] <Guest131>  gvo, gimp hates my ME. it didnt work before 9_9
[09:23] <gvo> Guest131: Too bad, it's a great little program.
[09:23] <llutz_> Guest131: try"sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch"
[09:23] <Guest131>  llutz_ http://pastebin.com/jv2DT5v5 did you look up?
[09:24] <Guest131>  btw "ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 is already the newest version."
[09:24] <llutz_> Guest131: yes, you are using some ppa ... ask the ppa-owner to fix your stuff
[09:25] <llutz_> !ppa
[09:25] <llutz_> Guest131: the important part is: " WARNING: PPAs are  unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. "
[09:26] <mancha_> bnjr à tous!!jspr ke vs aller tous très bien?
[09:26] <DJones> !fr | mancha_
[09:27] <BUSTACAP> How do I install a .run file?
[09:27] <Guest131>  what to do with ppas?
[09:27] <llutz_> Guest131: check "dpkg -L libgegl-0.0-0"  where it installs libs to and check if that dir is in your ldconfig-path
[09:27] <matthew21164> Hi all
[09:27] <gvo> I'd like to see the output from the reinstall of libgegl.
[09:28] <gvo> llutz_ good thought.
[09:28] <matthew21164> does anyone know what the oldest computer can run ubuntu?
[09:28] <Guest131>  gvo, http://pastebin.com/jv2DT5v5
[09:28] <matthew21164> cause it works, but only just on an old windows 2000
[09:28] <matthew21164> cpu single core, hardly any RAM etc
[09:29] <llutz_> Guest131: thats from libbabl
[09:29] <gvo> Guest131: libgegl not libbabl
[09:29] <Guest131> llutz_, im on the way reinstalling GIMP. if not works again..
[09:29] <Ascavasaion> matthew21164: How old is your computer?  You could try #xubuntu or #lubuntu for lightweight ubuntu distros, or you could also try #puppylinux
[09:29] <bobbyd> matthew21164, try the liveCD, then you'll know :)
[09:29] <matthew21164> thanks
[09:29] <gvo> matthew21164: DSL is also an option
[09:30] <matthew21164> I tried the liveCD, but when you click "Try" it just freezes for about 10min, then finally boots
[09:30] <matthew21164> then takes like 10seconds to click anything
[09:30] <matthew21164> so I probably will just use, #xubuntu or something similiar
[09:30] <matthew21164> thanks all
[09:31] <Ascavasaion> matthew21164: puppylinux is really easy and lightweight.  I set up an AMD900 Mhz machine, 20Gb HDD, 256Mb RAM, for my mother.  Puppylinux runs nicely on it.
[09:31] <matthew21164> ok
[09:31] <matthew21164> I'll try that
[09:31] <Guest131> llutz_, checked the library. it's ok there.
[09:31] <matthew21164> thanks
[09:32] <llutz_> Guest131: something cannot be "OK" there, because gimp won't find it (as ldd tells us)
[09:32] <gvo> matthew21164: lubuntu is smaller than xubuntu
[09:32] <vinte> hi, could anybody give me some pointers on optimising network io on ubuntu ala http://www.psc.edu/index.php/networking/641-tcp-tune#Linux ??
[09:32] <matthew21164> k, but I think Ill just try puppylinux first
[09:32] <caixa> anyone ever try ubuntu min remix?
[09:33] <gvo> matthew21164: The only problem with puppy is they have their own repos and sometimes the software you are looking for isn't availabe
[09:33] <matthew21164> no? what is that?
[09:33] <Guest131> llutz_, hmm. i'll check it up again after reinstallation and failure
[09:33] <matthew21164> [gvo] oh, couldent you just enable the old repos?
[09:33] <gvo> matthew21164: what old repos?
[09:33] <matthew21164> I can remember on some linux distros
[09:34] <gvo> Only puppy repos are compatible with puppy, IIRC
[09:34] <matthew21164> that you could enable custom depos for software
[09:34] <matthew21164> k
[09:34] <matthew21164> there was some tutorial for it somewhere...
[09:34] <matthew21164> anyways
[09:34] <kartlos> is there an app that shows what hardware is detected by ubuntu?
[09:35] <gvo> kartlos check out lspci
[09:35] <matthew21164> gtg now
[09:35] <kartlos> gvo: thanks
[09:35] <matthew21164> thanks all once again
[09:35] <gvo> matthew21164: Bye
[09:36] <gvo> !lspci | kartlos
[09:37] <kartlos> gvo: can't find lspci or !lspci in the software center...
[09:37] <llutz_> kartlos: its installed by default
[09:37] <ThinkT510> Kartagis: you run it from terminal
[09:37] <gvo> Bring up a terminal and type "lspci"
[09:37] <kartlos> gvo: thank you! :)
[09:38] <gvo> It's a part of the default utilities
[09:38] <univac> Hi Ubuntu users
[09:38] <kartlos> do you by any chance know how to switch the default graphics card?
[09:39] <iceroot> kartlos: nvidia optimus?
[09:39] <univac> Can someone help. I want to install the xfce desktop on 12.04
[09:39] <kartlos> iceroot: is that an app?
[09:39] <iceroot> univac: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:40] <iceroot> kartlos: its a graphic card technology with more then one graphiccard with is switching the cards
[09:40] <univac> is that all I have to do?
[09:40] <iceroot> univac: yes
[09:40] <ThinkT510> !xfce | univac
[09:40] <univac> thank you
[09:41] <ThinkT510> univac: then log out and select it at login
[09:41] <kartlos> iceroot: I don't whether that techonology is used on my (stupid) mac, but it has two graphics cards and ubuntu is using the powerfull one which uses too much power
[09:41] <gvo> univac: Or sudo apt-get install xfce4
[09:41] <domek> Aloha.
[09:41] <kartlos> I have no idea how to switch to the lightweight graphics card
[09:41] <iceroot> kartlos: luckily i never touched a mac so i dont know
[09:42] <kartlos> iceroot: keep away from mac, beleive me ;)
[09:42] <iceroot> kartlos: i know, thats the reason i dont touch such things
[09:43] <mang0> Unless you like the ascetics, don't mind paying a stupid amount for non-upgradable hardware, and don't mind that you could get something much better for the same amount of money
[09:43] <dolv> hello to everybody in the room. Can somebody consalt me on DNS+DHCP subject? Both are runnung but DDNS seems to me is not working properly. Host name does not appear in Zone. Where to look & what to do?
[09:44] <univac> thanks. downloading xfce now
[09:44] <tim> morning, my 64bit 12.04 system has just frozen mid-backup, anyone want to help find the cause or shall I just hit the reset button?
[09:45] <Guest131> llutz_, erm, GIMP did not work again. let's continue
[09:45] <gvo> Guest131: what did you do?
[09:45] <Guest131>  gvo, reinstalled
[09:45] <gvo> How did you reinstall?
[09:46] <Guest131>  through software center, reinstalled
[09:46] <gvo> And ldd shows missing libraries yet again?
[09:47] <Walther> Is there a way to make the persistence file bigger than 4GB on Ubuntu live usb?
[09:47] <Guest131>  i dont know about it
[09:47] <gvo> OK do this "apt-cache policy gimp"
[09:47] <gvo> Walther: Not if the usb stick is fat32
[09:48] <Walther> gvo: too bad then, as the startup disk creator doesn't allow any other types (say, ext4)
[09:48] <dolv>   
[09:49] <Byte> hello
[09:49] <dolv> hello, Byte
[09:49] <ThinkT510> Walther: why not just do a proper install to the usb stick?
[09:51] <SystemParadox> morning all. Which metapackage does ubuntu server use? Does it put anything else on top? Thanks
[09:51] <gvo> Guest131: Pastebin the ldd llutz_  gave you again.
[09:52] <tim> not even reisub worked. :-(
[09:52] <gvo> Guest131: Stop sending PMs
[09:52] <Guest131>  gvo, thanks!
[09:53] <tim> is it possible to file a useful launchpad bug for "system frozen"
[09:53] <Ztane> is there official vmware appliance for 1204 ?
[09:54] <gvo> Guest131: I want to remove gimp completely and then install it again from the command line and save pastebin the output.
[09:54] <ThinkT510> Ztane: official, i doubt it
[09:54] <ashka> hmm, my GPU isn't detected by ubuntu since I changed my motherboard
[09:55] <reuf> hello
[09:55] <reuf> all
[09:55] <Guest131>  llutz_, dpkg -L libgegl-0.0-0 results: http://pastebin.com/aXyTVpNd. Please check it up.
[09:56] <reuf> question - when running another linux distro in virtual box how limited am i in terms of os  itself and its capabilities - not in terms of processing and memory power
[09:56] <reuf> lets say i wanna run fedora spin inside ubuntu virtual box - how limited will i be - or there will be no limits?
[09:56] <ThinkT510> reuf: could you expand on what you mean?
[09:56] <ThinkT510> reuf: a vm is a vm
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> 3d video is about the only limit ive heard of
[09:57] <ThinkT510> reuf: for all intents and purposes the guest os will "think" it is on its own hardware
[09:57] <lotalota> hi
[09:58] <Guest131>  GIMP does not work. How to solve this problem?
[09:59] <reuf> ThinkT510: thanks
[09:59] <lotalota> anyone experienced with apport-gtk? I get the error message that there is a problem with the users Xauthorization file
[09:59] <gvo> Guest131: apt-cache policy libgegl-0.0-0
[09:59] <llutz_> Guest131: wron version of libgegl, gimp expects libgegl-0.0-0 but your package installs -0.2-0
[09:59] <gvo> Please pastebin the output
[10:00] <ralad> #s2c
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> lotalota: remove the .Xauthority file perhaps
[10:00] <Guest131>  llutz_, what to do?
[10:00] <lotalota> there is no
[10:00] <llutz_> Guest131: get rid of those ppas, reinstall gimp from official repo
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[10:01] <Guest131>  OK. give me some guide
[10:01] <llutz_> Guest131: or ask the ppa-owner to fix his stuff
[10:01] <Guest131>  reinstalling from official repo is a good idea, can i do it through terminal?
[10:02] <llutz_> !ppa-purge | Guest131
[10:02] <lotalota> Dr_Willis: and there is no $XAUTHORITY set either
[10:05] <lotalota> any suggestions? that is the exact error message: Failed to run /usr/share/apport/apport-gtk as user root. Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[10:07] <cousin_luigi> Greetings.
[10:07] <cousin_luigi> Any recommended settings for xorg.conf to avoid tearing with nouveau?
[10:07] <Guest131> Back
[10:08] <dolv> Greetengs.
[10:08] <dolv> Can somebody consult on DNS+DHCP subject?
[10:10] <gvo> dolv: Probably find help at ##networking
[10:10] <Guest131>  llutz_, how can I find Gimp's currnet repo to purge it?
[10:12] <llutz_> Guest131: apt-cache policy gimp
[10:13] <reuf> i want ti become a hacker - whar do i do ?
[10:13] <llutz_> reuf: get an axe, some wood
[10:13] <reuf> XD
[10:13] <gvo> reuf: Not very Ubuntu related
[10:14] <reuf> ok, ok - my bad -
[10:14] <Guest131> http://pastebin.com/njivi58E I don't see repo here
[10:14] <reuf> im denigrarting the official conversations
[10:14] <Guest131>  llutz_, please check it out
[10:15] <llutz_> Guest131: you have matthaeus/mrw-gimp-svn enabled (where libbabl comes from), purge it
[10:16] <gvo> llutz_: Might want to check where libgegl came from too
[10:16] <gvo> Probably same place.
[10:16] <llutz_> prolly
[10:17] <Guest131>  llutz_, can you give me direct command to purge it?
[10:17] <zidoh> how do you get alt+tab back?
[10:18] <gvo> zidoh where did it go?
[10:18] <llutz_> Guest131: sudo ppa-purge ppa:matthaeus123/mrw-gimp-svn              or smthng like that. read the links ubottu gave you before
[10:18] <Yandex_nm2> reuf: The general advice is to install Gentoo stage 1
[10:18] <kartlos> is it possible to make ubuntu 12.04 use xorg.conf?
[10:18] <zidoh> gvo: to macosx hell apparently.. who thought that would be a good idea?
[10:18] <gvo> zidoh: reboot maybe?  Or logout?
[10:19] <Guest131>  llutz_, sudo: ppa-purge: command not found
[10:19] <reuf> Yandex_nm2: yea im on it - im running asteriks on gentoo for my vopi clients
[10:19] <zidoh> gvo: no, i mean, how do i get to it to swap between windows like it should, instead of this application switching stuff
[10:19] <reuf> its nice
[10:19] <llutz_> !ppa-purge | Guest131
[10:19] <reuf> very nice - i like the licence
[10:19] <reuf> gpl is crap
[10:19] <llutz_> !ot | reuf
[10:19] <gvo> zidoh: Oh no clue.
[10:20] <Yandex_nm2> reuf: But asterisk uses GPL, as does most Linux software
[10:20] <reuf> llutz:  yea, i was ansering Yandex_nm2
[10:20] <Yandex_nm2> !ot | llutz_
[10:20] <reuf> yea i know - but i hate it
[10:21] <Yandex_nm2> Agreed, it's something of a virus
[10:23] <somethinginteres> is there a way for me to download a copy of the latest Ubuntu with all the updates applied so I don't have a big download after or during install?
[10:24] <LjL> Yandex_nm2: i don't believe llutz_ was being offtopic. you, on the other hand, were.
[10:24] <MoneyDust> somethinginteres  sounds great, everybody wants that, but no
[10:24] <Yandex_nm2> LjL: I don't comprehend
[10:25] <DX_User_002> Hello
[10:25] <Guest131>  llutz_: I purged that repo. where can I find official repo GIMP included?
[10:26] <ThinkT510> somethinginteres: the closest thing to that is the .1 releases, 12.04.1 is comming up
[10:26] <llutz_> Guest131: its in main, the standard ubuntu-repo
[10:26] <ThinkT510> somethinginteres: those sort of releases only apply to the lts versions though
[10:26] <Guest131>  llutz_: so give me command
[10:27] <ThinkT510> Guest131: you forgot please
[10:27] <MoneyDust> Guest131  sudo apt-get istall gimp
[10:27] <llutz_> Guest131: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgegl-0.0-0 libbabl-0.0-0 gimp
[10:28] <XiRoN> Is there a way to block all ports in ufw and only allow the ports that have been allowed?
[10:28] <Guest131>  thanks guys
[10:29] <MoneyDust> XiRoN  try to get familiar with configuring ip-tables
[10:29] <llutz_> XiRoN: isnt that the default?
[10:30] <XiRoN> MoneyDust: Do I need to use iptables in order to use ufw?
[10:30] <XiRoN> llutz_: not sure i have only just started using it
[10:30] <Yandex_nm2> XiRoN: ufw configures iptables for you, but if you understand iptables properly it will make ufw more obvious
[10:31] <Guest131>  OMG!! It works! You are gorgeous llutz_, thanks again!
[10:31] <somethinginteres> ThinkT510: I'd need to do the install tonight unless .1 is on the way soon I guess I'll just have to download updates.
[10:32] <XiRoN> Yandex_nm2: I just need a solution that will quickley allow me to open and close ports, learning iptables is something I will do in the near future
[10:32] <somethinginteres> ThinkT510: no major hassle besides bandwidth.
[10:33] <somethinginteres> Also, why does the Chinese language edition of Ubuntu have its own release?
[10:33] <MoneyDust> somethinginteres  guess that's chinese politics
[10:34] <somethinginteres> MoneyDust: oh really? hmmm.
[10:39] <misantropen> Why is /dev/ needed?
[10:39] <Guest131>  llutz_: The current version is 2.6.12, how can I upgrade to 2.8 version through terminal( if possible)?
[10:39] <skpl> hi unity 2d is very slow on my machine, how can i check and see if it is using the correct driver for my graphics card
[10:39] <misantropen> I know /dev/ contains devices but what does that mean?
[10:39] <misantropen> proc also contains devices
[10:39] <llutz_> Guest131: find a ppa for it and be prepared to break things again :)
[10:40] <misantropen> Anyone?
[10:40] <ThinkT510> !fhs | misantropen
[10:41] <Guest131>  llutz_: I better satisfie with this flavor :/
[10:41] <LjL> misantropen: does proc contain devices you can read from / write to?
[10:42] <llutz_> Guest131: you'll have to wait for 12.10 to get gimp-2.8 by default i guess
[10:42] <misantropen> LjL: Not sure
[10:43] <MoneyDust> misantropen  linux works with partitions, like /dev/sda1 -- partitions are parts of your harddisk
[10:43] <llutz_> all is a file ...
[10:43] <Guest131>  llutz_: At that time GIMP 2.10 will be released, latest release 2.9 is in beta right now..
[10:44] <misantropen> ThinkT510: What is a device file? "interface for a device driver"
[10:44] <Guest131>  llutz_: huh 2.10 maybe 3.0
[10:44] <LjL> misantropen: to my knowledge, proc contains information / parameters about your hardware and software, while /dev is actually a representation of devices you can use to read/write to them
[10:44] <llutz_> Guest131: idk, i don't use gimp that much that i'd care about versions
[10:45] <Yandex_nm2> It's fairly ridiculous that it's so hard to upgrade to new versions of software (GIMP for example)
[10:45] <Yandex_nm2> On Windows or Mac it would be much easier
[10:45] <misantropen> LjL: Would it be correct to say that software communicate with the hardware through dev?
[10:45] <llutz_> Yandex_nm2: use a rolling-release distro and you'll be fine.
[10:45] <Guest131>  llutz_: this is gonna be my first touch with gimp, I've used Photoshop on Windows and iMac before
[10:46] <Yandex_nm2> Guest131: Prepare to be disappointed, GIMP is not good at non-destructive editing the way Photoshop is
[10:46] <LjL> misantropen: well, i don't think that's always the case at least nowadays, but in theory, yes
[10:46] <Yandex_nm2> Guest131: It's primarily a pixel pusher
[10:46] <misantropen> LjL: Ok thank you
[10:46] <Guest131>  Yandex_nm2, I'll give it a try
[10:47] <Salman> I have computè nvdia
[10:48] <Guest131> do yo know guys Picasa is available in Ubuntu?
[10:48] <somethinginteres> OK I am not sure if this possible but presently I have my /home on a separate partition. Can I install Ubuntu via Wubi onto my laptop, then plug in my IDE HDD containing my /home partition,  via a USB 3.0 HDD bay   and edit /etc/fstab to mount that drive's partition as home?
[10:48] <Salman> I have computer nvdia/
[10:48] <avnish> gi
[10:48] <llutz_> Guest131: it is, from google
[10:48] <skpl> hi unity 2d is very slow on my machine, how can i check and see if it is using the correct driver for my graphics card
[10:49] <Guest131>  llutz_: Picasa is not currently available for your operating system. says
[10:49] <Salman> somethinginteres: I have/nvdia live only /new :)
[10:50] <llutz_> Guest131:then: it was, from google
[10:50] <Guest131>  llutz_: ;)
[10:51] <DJones> Guest131: I think I read that picassa for linux (via wine) had been dropped by google
[10:51] <Salman> Gta san Onilne easy game full fix my computer :)  /gta iv not on my computer :(
[10:51] <Salman> Lol
[10:51] <Yandex_nm2> Yeah, Google aren't bothering with Linux version of Picasa in future
[10:51] <Yandex_nm2> Shame because it's nice software
[10:52] <Salman> Yandex_nm2: Leave
[10:52] <llutz_> Guest131: win-picasa + wine  would work maybe
[10:52] <MoneyDust> yeah, something's wrong, complain @ google http://picasa.google.com/linux/
[10:52] <DJones> Salman: Do you have any UBuntu support questions, you've been told that thisn't a channel for general chat
[10:52] <Guest131>  DJones, even the wine? gosh! google is also a linux system, why doing this? 9_9
[10:53] <DJones> Guest131: The version from google was the windows version with a wine wrapper anyway (from what I remember), maybe you can still install it manually though
[10:53] <Salman> DJones: Not I windows
[10:53] <somethinginteres> Salman: sorry, I am not following...
[10:54] <DJones> Salman: This channel isn't for Windows discussion
[10:54] <Salman> Yes I have help thi channel
[10:54] <W4sp> somethinginteres: Two things, if you install Ubuntu creates its own /home for the upcoming users to be added to the system. You would need to modify fstab in such a way that a) users during the install process are added to your ext HDD. These must have the same UID as in /etc/passwd
[10:55] <Guest131> Salman,you better go to iamleaningenlish dot com
[10:55] <MoneyDust> ah Salman, ueber troll ! long time no see !
[10:57] <somethinginteres> W4sp: if I used the full Ubuntu installer and set my /home mount point as my external (instead of using Wubi) that should not be a problem, in the sense that if I tell the installer /home = external all sers should be added to my external drive?
[10:57] <W4sp> somethinginteres: Please note that if you mount your ext HDD to /home the existing directories in /home will not be available until you umount the ext HDD from /home
[10:58] <W4sp> somethinginteres: In short, yes, it is very much possible and a way of doing it.
[10:58] <ehs> ubuntu software centre doest open on a regular user
[10:58] <somethinginteres> W4sp: not sure it'd be possible to modify the fstab used by Wubi for the install process but I am a bit of a n00b so I am not sure
[10:59] <ehs> any idea
[10:59] <ns_nazri> hi
[10:59] <blackshirt> hi ns_nazri
[10:59] <ehs> ubuntu software centre doest open on a regular user ? any idea
[10:59] <Yandex_nm2> ehs: Try starting it from command line, not any messages
[10:59] <wubino> the unity task bar no longer appears after startup and defaulting to the normal behaviours via the background option is not helping
[10:59] <wubino> What to do?
[10:59] <Yandex_nm2> ehs: *note any messaegs
[10:59] <somethinginteres> W4sp: not a massive fan of Wubi but I prefer to maintain the partitions as is b/c there's a recovery partition for  Windows on their by default from Acer
[11:00] <blackshirt> ehs, what you mean with open regular user?
[11:00] <ehs> ya i did but how to start from command line pls
[11:00] <ehs> not the sudo user
[11:01] <blackshirt> ehs, i think usc can run as regular user
[11:01] <ehs> ya was doing that in my earlier installation but 11.10 am not able to
[11:02] <blackshirt> have/you try to reinstall usc?
[11:02] <Yandex_nm2> ehs: Yes, just load up USC and reinstall USC... oh wait
[11:02] <ehs> i tried no luck sorry
[11:02] <ehs> should i doing it again?
[11:02] <blackshirt> what you mean with no luck
[11:03] <blackshirt> Can't reinstall?
[11:03] <ehs> i tried earlier to reinstall usc
[11:03] <ehs> same issue
[11:03] <blackshirt> any messages ?
[11:03] <W4sp> somethinginteres: IT you use installer defaults your ext HDD will be erased. I suggest to do the following based on your requirements. During installation instruct /home to be on a USB memory stick that does not contain any important data, run the installer and manually instruct the installer to use your /dev/usb.... as /home. This is not the default. Shut down Ubuntu and swap the USB memory stick with your ext HDD and boot into Ubuntu.
[11:04] <ehs> nope was a smooth installation
[11:04] <W4sp> somethinginteres: Also, what is the file sistem on your ext HDD?
[11:04] <ehs> should i try it again?
[11:05] <blackshirt> maybe better
[11:05] <ehs> ok will be back
[11:05] <blackshirt> ehs, is there messages pop up?
[11:05] <W4sp> somethinginteres: I am not qualified to comment on Acer's recovery partition(s).
[11:07] <W4sp> somethinginteres: Please note that the ext HDD must contain a writable valid filesystem.
[11:07] <somethinginteres> W4sp: it's ext4 presently
[11:08] <W4sp> somethinginteres: That's very good news. :-)
[11:10] <somethinginteres> W4sp: indeed. Basically I am trying to transport my computer overseas without actually taking the big box. I figure, install the base OS, use the /home already in use right now, good as gold. I should set it up in the next few hours if you're online I'll let you know how it went down. :)
[11:11] <MoneyDust> somethinginteres  use clonezilla to clone the pc
[11:11] <W4sp> somethinginteres: I'll stick around and if something comes up just ping me.
[11:12] <W4sp> somethinginteres: Did you get the UID thing? Make sure the user id on your ext HDD matches your /etc/passwd. See the numeric values including group membership.
[11:12] <MoneyDust> somethinginteres  you can also simply copy your /home to an external, the applications' settings will be copied, too
[11:13] <oa_> Hi my console gets spammed with ata1: exception Emask ....
[11:14] <oa_> Can't I make the ata-stuff not spam my console in some way?
[11:15] <blackshirt> oa_ something goes trouble with hd?
[11:17] <oa_> blackshirt: My hd seems to work fine. I tried replacing my sata cable but the error didn't disappear.
[11:22] <ehs> no error
[11:22] <ehs> but not able to open usc
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:23] <folmer> mjello
[11:23] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj: greetings.  what's your ubuntu issue?
[11:24] <dna-and> cfhowlett: How did you know he had an issue? :O
[11:24] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett:  Hi , I don't have one yet , but thanks for your attention :)
[11:32] <epzil0n> could someone confirm if this would work in Ubuntu 12.04? http://www.geoffke.be/nieuws/5/ the thing is my M-audio audiophile 2496 works flawless in Fedora but i want to have sound in Ubuntu too!
[11:32] <cfhowlett> epzil0n: ask in #ubuntustudio and #opensourcemusicians as well
[11:32] <kio_http> epzil0n: Technically it should work
[11:33] <epzil0n> cfhowlett: ok, thx
[11:33] <cfhowlett> epzil0n: agree with kio_http
[11:33] <epzil0n> kio_http: ok :P
[11:37] <somethinginteres> w4sp: re: the UDID thing  I might need you to expand on that a bit. I just checked my /etc/passwd it has in it "sam:x:1000:1000:sam,,,:/home/sam:/bin/bash" "sam" being my username. Not too sure on what exactly you mean by " the numeric values including group membership." Do you mean to make sure I use the same username and password during install as I am using on the current box?
[11:39] <W4sp> somethinginteres: As your user id is 1000 in grp sam (1000) on your ext HDD it should match with your new installation. Otherwise, if you log into the OS as sam but the numeric values are different you won't have a home dir. Does it make sense?
[11:39] <univac> Thanks guys. Successfully installed XFCE as my desktop
[11:40] <W4sp> somethinginteres: Otherwise log into root and chown your old /home/sam with the new sam UID.
[11:42] <killer> hi...how do i upgrade gcc to 4.7.1 in precise and upgrade  other tools like cmake ...
[11:42] <somethinginteres> W4sp: sorry mate, I think I follow you, I just am not clear on how to accomplish it. Is it a case of simply editing /etc/passwd after I do the install to make sure "sam" is 1000?
[11:42] <W4sp> somethinginteres: Hence, sam as a username is not sufficient, sam with UID 1000 in grp 1000 will do you nicely as this is what is on your extfs4 on your ext HDD
[11:43] <somethinginteres> W4sp: or is there a command that will make sure "sam" has UID 1000 in grp 1000?
[11:43] <zetheroo> what is the command to move a directory and it's contents to another folder?
[11:43] <W4sp> somethinginteres: YEs, but if your ext HDD has other users on it you need to match them all.
[11:43] <jrib> zetheroo: mv /path/to/directory /new/location
[11:44] <zetheroo> jrib: thanks
[11:44] <somethinginteres> W4sp: that should be no worries then. Sweet. Never would've known to do this if I'd not asked here. :)
[11:46] <zetheroo> jrib: that worked! Now what if I want to mv several folders and their contents to another common location?
[11:46] <W4sp> somethinginteres: One more thing.... You mentioned you take the HDD overseas without the 'big box'. The problem will rise again unless you take your Acer with you, hence maintaining the UID/GUID pairs. All clear?
[11:46] <minus2731> hi all
[11:46] <minus2731> a very newbie question
[11:47] <minus2731> I have Medibuntu sources in my apt-get confs
[11:47] <cfhowlett> minus2731: ... and the question?
[11:47] <minus2731> and nevertheless I wish to install the Ubuntu version of mplayer
[11:47] <jrib> zetheroo: mv folder1 folder2 /new/location
[11:47] <minus2731> what should I do?
[11:47] <zetheroo> jrib: ok thanks
[11:48] <somethinginteres> W4sp: yep,all clear
[11:48] <somethinginteres> W4sp: thanks for the help
[11:48] <cfhowlett> minus2731: does mplayer work?
[11:49] <W4sp> somethinginteres: Very welcome, let's see how you get on with it.
[11:49] <minus2731> cfhowlett: yes, but I suspect that it does not work with another software (a proprietary streamer popular in China) which calls mplayer for playing videos
[11:49] <killer> how do i upgrade gcc to version 4.7
[11:50] <zetheroo> jrib: I am getting a message saying that one of the folders cannot be moved because it's not empty
[11:50] <minus2731> cfhowlett: and people report that it does work with the ubuntu version of mplayer
[11:50] <cfhowlett> minus2731: i'm in beijing and my youku plays fine...
[11:50] <jrib> zetheroo: pastebin command and output
[11:50] <minus2731> cfhowlett: then that's clearer, I wish to run PPStream
[11:50] <jrib> zetheroo: you must make sure /new/location is a directory
[11:51] <cfhowlett> minus2731: pastebin output from the following apt-cache policy mplayer
[11:51] <BluesKaj> epzil0n:  I have the same soundcard , just make sure it's default in the bios ,and to check if the the right modul/driver is loaded , in the terminal run , cat /proc/asound/modules
[11:51] <zetheroo> jrib: can I PM the pastebin link?
[11:52] <jrib> zetheroo: I'd prefer if you just post it here, but if it has information you do not wish to share for some reason, sure
[11:52] <minus2731> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1125063/
[11:53] <cfhowlett> minus2731: exact same as I have.
[11:53] <cfhowlett> minus2731: mplayer downloads are at  http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
[11:53] <minus2731> cfhowlett: and PPStream (the standalone version) works at your place?
[11:54] <jrib> zetheroo: on your first line, change "mv" to "ls -ld" and pastebin that please
[11:54] <cfhowlett> minus2731: never used it that I know of.  Have you a link for me to test?
[11:55] <BluesKaj> epzil0n: the result of the cat command should be , 0 snd_ice1724 , if the right driver/module is loaded
[11:55] <minus2731> cfhowlett: http://dl.pps.tv/pps_linux_download.html -- click on the big button with "Ubuntu"
[11:55] <jrib> zetheroo: perhaps a directory already exists in there with the same name?
[11:55] <minus2731> cfhowlett: so can I change the policy thing to prefer for this package only the main ubuntu source?
[11:55] <cfhowlett> minus2731: attempting a play for pps.tv
[11:56] <zetheroo> jrib: ok ... should not be in there ... but I'll check ..
[11:56] <cfhowlett> minus2731: got some message in chinese which, sadly, I don't read or speak to any great degree.
[11:57] <zetheroo> jrib: seems like you nailed it! dealing with duplicated data  ... argh ;)
[11:57] <cfhowlett> minus2731: but yes.  Comment out the current medibuntu sources with # and run apt-upgrade then apt-get install mplayer
[11:58] <killer> is kernel.ubuntu.com officially supported (by ubuntu)?
[11:58] <minus2731> cfhowlett: thanks for the "policy" hint, I think I STFG'd on the right thing
[11:59] <cfhowlett> minus2731: good luck then
[11:59] <minus2731> cfhowlett: thanks for the "policy" hint, I think I STFG'd on the right thing
[11:59] <minus2731> cfhowlett: http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences#A.2BAC8-etc.2BAC8-apt.2BAC8-sources.list
[12:06] <Manoj> register
[12:06] <Manoj> how to register
[12:06] <zykotick9> !register | Manoj
[12:07] <Manoj> manoj/join #freenod
[12:11] <blinkiz> Hello. Am trying to use Open vSwitch. How do I create a fake bridge for packets that have no 802.1Q tag or a tag with VLAN 0?  For example I already have port "eth0" within bridge "ovstrunk". I now want one fake bridge with all untagged traffic only, "ovsbr0". "ovs-vsctl add-br ovsbr0 ovstrunk 0" command gives me error message "ovs-vsctl: add-br: vlan must be between 1 and 4095".
[12:14] <minus2731> cfhowlett: however, that only works between different debian versions, so as medibuntu is as precise as ubuntu
[12:14] <minus2731> that doesn't work
[12:15] <minus2731> so I opted for the usual way
[12:15] <cfhowlett> minus2731: ouch.  sorry, man.  that was officially my best shot.
[12:15] <minus2731> cfhowlett: no, your version is OK
[12:15] <miwa> can I somehow stop the update manager from appearing now and then?
[12:15] <minus2731> I imagined that the policy thing can be changed
[12:15] <minus2731> yes, but only when the distro version is different
[12:18] <minus2731> cfhowlett: now with the vanilla mplayer, PPStream doesn't work in exactly the same way
[12:18] <minus2731> so I guess that
[12:18] <minus2731> 's nature's way to tell me not to waste time over pirated animes
[12:19] <cfhowlett> minus2731: lol.  ok.
[12:19] <scottj> Is there a ncurses way to change per app volume for pulseaudio? basically terminal version of pavucontrol
[12:20] <zykotick9> scottj: i'd guess there is probably a terminal method, but i've never heard of an ncurses pulse mixer... good luck.
[12:21] <romy420> hi, i want to write a little script that allows me to start two (or more) different shell scripts in two different terminal windows. how can i do that?
[12:22] <zykotick9> romy420: in your script you could use something like "xterm -e script2" to launch a new terminal window with a script running inside it.
[12:23] <Manoj> how to install graphic drivers to system ;
[12:23] <jason__> The user roles in iHRIS have defined tasks that cannot be modified. is this true or false?
[12:23] <romy420> zykotick9, ty i think that is what i'm looking for. will try that
[12:24] <Manoj> #admin
[12:29] <cpyi> HiG
[12:30] <cpyi> exit
[12:30] <z1lt0id> Hello everyone.  I want to back up current linux drive (which is on a 32gb ssd) and transfer it to a 128gb ssd drive which I am purchasing tomorrow.  Is there an easy way to do this
[12:38] <xrfang> hi is there any setting in NetworkManager so that one of many APs with same SSID is "preferred"?
[12:39] <DarsVaeda> how do I install the package "bind9" with dpkg?
[12:39] <liyue528> hello
[12:40] <cfhowlett> DarsVaeda: normally: download the .deb then sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[12:40] <cfhowlett> liyue528: greetings
[12:40] <liyue528> joined #ubuntu
[12:40] <DarsVaeda> I see thanks
[12:40] <scottj> zykotick9: found this, https://github.com/Valodim/pamixer
[12:40] <sls> join #als
[12:40] <sls> hi
[12:41] <e0ne199> hello everyone
[12:41] <cfhowlett> sls: greetings
[12:41] <cfhowlett> e0ne199: greetings
[12:42] <e0ne199> i have a problem with tv tuner saa 7130 and gnomeradio, it says that dev/mixer cannot be opened...do you have solution for this, or at least a thread discussing about this problem?
[12:44] <e0ne199> hello, i have a problem with tv tuner saa7130 and gnomeradio, it says that dev/mixer cannot be opened...do you have solution for this, or at least a thread discussing about this problem?
[12:44] <cfhowlett> !patience|e0ne199
[12:45] <e0ne199> sorry :(
[12:45] <e0ne199> i thought no one would answer my question :(
[12:46] <cfhowlett> e0ne199: we were all in deep thought...
[12:46] <ripthejacker> cfhowlett, lol
[12:47] <liyue528> you has used xchat  many years age
[12:47] <liyue528> thanks you
[12:47] <liyue528> where are you from
[12:47] <AdvoWork> i know with rsync you can specify bandwidth, but can I tell how much is being used currently by the rsync?
[12:48] <cfhowlett> !ot|liyue528
[12:48] <ubuntufan> how to install sql developer from command line
[12:48] <jpds> AdvoWork: Use --progress.
[12:49] <ubuntufan> how to install sql developer from command line
[12:50] <jpds> ubuntufan: sudo apt-get install sqldeveloper-package
[12:50] <ubuntufan> ??
[12:50] <ubuntufan> jpds: ??
[12:50] <jpds> ubuntufan: You asked how to install it from the command line.
[12:50] <ubuntufan> yes  but this is a way ?
[12:51] <ubuntufan> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/sqldeveloper-package
[12:51] <jpds> ubuntufan: Yes, why else would I say it?
[12:51] <ubuntufan> how about this
[12:51] <jpds> ubuntufan: Same thing, it just installs that package.
[12:51] <ubuntufan> and how to install from this link
[12:51] <jason__> The user roles in iHRIS have defined tasks that cannot be modified. is this true or false?
[12:51] <jpds> ubuntufan: Don't, just use the repos.
[12:52] <AdvoWork> jpds, and i assume if i ctrl+c to stop it running, it wont cause a problem, and will continue from where it left off?
[12:52] <jpds> AdvoWork: Depends on your flags, if you use --partial then it will continue from where the current transfer is.
[12:53] <jpds> AdvoWork: Otherwise, from last file onwards.
[12:53] <AdvoWork> jpds, rsync -aux --numeric-ids --stats --progress /opt/test/old-system/ 192.168.0.1:/mnt/new will be the command, although I need to also specify a different port on the 0.1, can i?
[12:54] <geirha> AdvoWork: -e 'ssh -P 1234'
[12:54] <[snake]> hola, when my computer boots, the grub screen and the loady bit never show up because the display resolution is too high. after that it's fine though.
[12:54] <jpds> AdvoWork: Maybe add --partial ?
[12:55] <geirha> AdvoWork: Sorry, -p, not -P
[12:55] <jpds> AdvoWork: And --port=?? too, see the man page for example.
[12:56] <[snake]> is there a way to change the display resolution for bootup?
[12:56] <geirha> AdvoWork: Also, there's an #rsync channel which is probably better to ask for fine-tuning your rsync command
[12:57] <AdvoWork> geirha, thanks
[12:57] <jason__> The user roles in iHRIS have defined tasks that cannot be modified. is this true or false?
[12:58] <MoneyDust> jason__  what's iHRIS?
[12:59] <zykotick9> MoneyDust: "The iHRIS Suite of open source software supplies health sector leaders..."
[12:59] <Pici> jason__: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[13:01] <jason__> iHRIS is a software that runs on ubuntu using LAMP platform.
[13:02] <jason__> I mean LAMP achitectur
[13:03] <Feer> ooi pra alguen ai
[13:04] <Pici> jason__: We cannot support every piece of software that uses Ubuntu. Your best resource would be to find a support contact on the ihris website.
[13:04] <jason__> oky will do so
[13:06] <Feer> nothing
[13:07] <Pici> !br | Feer
[13:09] <jonjonjonny> Is anyone able to help me? When I boot the 12.04 ubuntu DVD up, it won't allow me to use the mouse (buttons only, cursor moves) or keyboard to give the trial a go
[13:24] <WHAT_UP> if i chown on a folder in a mounted samba drive, that won't actually affect the drive, will it? just the permissions in the local mounting
[13:25] <WHAT_UP> effectively, i mounted the drive as root, but want the normal user to be able to write to it
[13:29] <greenit> hi, i have a problem with my computer, it is pretty often that it starts in low graphics-mode... here is the output from Xorg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1125193/
[13:33] <Thomas_> Hello.
[13:33] <Thomas_> Anyone around?
[13:33] <samster34> yes
[13:33] <greenit> hi, yea
[13:34] <Thomas_> I need some help with installing ubuntu
[13:34] <compdoc> whats the problem?
[13:34] <Thomas_> I chose to install it from a CD
[13:35] <Thomas_> and to install it alongside my other OS
[13:35] <Thomas_> so I'm stuck here in the Partition menu
[13:35] <compdoc> oh. I dont dual-boot, so Im not much help
[13:35] <samster34> Thomas_, what is the other OS?
[13:35] <Thomas_> Windows 7
[13:35] <compdoc> someone else can help Im sure, but its early in the morning
[13:35] <samster34> Thomas_, try using wubi.exe then, from inside windows
[13:36] <Thomas_> I've tried that but it's not recommended
[13:36] <Thomas_> I encountered some problems
[13:36] <Thomas_> so my question here is
[13:36] <greenit> Thomas_, so, u are still in the live-cd and have the partition menu in front of u?
[13:36] <Thomas_> am I supposed to create a partition beforehand
[13:36] <Thomas_> or can I create a partition to install Ubuntu here?
[13:36] <Thomas_> yes
[13:36] <samster34> is there free space?
[13:37] <samster34> I don't know if the partitioning tool in the installer will let you resize NTFS partitions
[13:37] <Thomas_> I use only 100 gigs of my 500 gb drive so yes
[13:37] <greenit> samster34, it is gparted, it will
[13:37] <compdoc> but is it non-parititoned space?
[13:37] <Thomas_> from the looks of it
[13:38] <Thomas_> that's my question, can I create a free partition now?
[13:38] <samster34> so, you have a 100GB windows partition, and  00GB unpartitioned space
[13:38] <compdoc> if its one large ntfs parititon, it might not work. you might damage your windows
[13:38] <samster34> ~400
[13:38] <greenit> Thomas_, didnt u choose the option "install ubuntu beneath my other systems"?
[13:38] <smartboyhw>  greenit's right
[13:38] <Thomas_> wait a second
[13:38] <smartboyhw> Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8.
[13:39] <smartboyhw> Maybe he used the daily builds:)
[13:39] <greenit> :)
[13:39] <Thomas_> I have 2 choices
[13:39] <smartboyhw> :(
[13:39] <Thomas_> 1) Replace windows 7 with Ubuntu
[13:39] <Thomas_> and 2)
[13:39] <Thomas_> "something else"
[13:39] <smartboyhw> Yeah, do the first one
[13:39] <samster34> ehh, no
[13:39] <samster34> that will replace windws7 :p
[13:39] <smartboyhw> Oh, shit
[13:39] <smartboyhw> Then it gets complicated
[13:39] <Thomas_> I'd gladly do the first one but I need to test out Ubuntu first :P
[13:39] <smartboyhw> I never use that option
[13:40] <ThinkT510> !behelpful | smartboyhw
[13:40] <brontosaurusrex> Thomas_, virtualbox
[13:40] <samster34> Thomas_, what does the partitioning look like?
[13:40] <smartboyhw> Test Ubuntu on Windows using VMWare Player
[13:40] <samster34> 100GB windows 7, 400GB unused?
[13:40] <smartboyhw> Or Virtualbox, as brontosaurusrex said
[13:40] <Thomas_> I think all 500 GB are used by windows
[13:40] <kartlos> hello people
[13:40] <Thomas_> since I've never made a partition
[13:40] <smartboyhw> Or use the live system!
[13:41] <samster34> Thomas_, then the easiest thing might be to boot windows, shrink the partition, and then boot your ubunu install medium again
[13:41] <Thomas_> I could do all this stuff but I want to dual boot for now
[13:41] <smartboyhw> !behelpful | ThinkT510
[13:41] <greenit> Thomas_, so, u have installed win7 before, and as i think u just clicked "next" when it asked for a partition, so that u have one big ntfs-partition... use "somehting else" click on the ntfs-partition, if there is _no_ grey area left or right, and make it a bit smaller, from the END, not the beginning, this wont influence ur win7 drastically
[13:41] <smartboyhw> Just use VM or live system...
[13:41] <Thomas_> greenit yes exactly
[13:41] <samster34> smartboyhw, I think he's got your point
[13:41] <Thomas_> the details under the second option say
[13:41] <Deddly> !guidelines
[13:42] <Thomas_> "You can create or resize partitions yourself, or choose multiple paritions for ubuntu"
[13:42] <kartlos> I just installed grub-efi on my macbook pro running 12.04 now X server doesn't start saying there are 'no screens found', has anyone experienced this?
[13:42] <smartboyhw> Yes, but it's complicated
[13:42] <smartboyhw> I only use "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7/8"
[13:42] <greenit> Thomas_, resize ur ntfs-partition, from the end and install ubuntu in the generated free space
[13:42] <smartboyhw> !help
[13:43] <samster34> Thomas_, for a nearly foolproof way, just resize your windows partition in windows, and then you should be able to use the "install alongside windows" option :)
[13:43] <greenit> Thomas_, i did this a few times, with no real problems in any of my systems
[13:43] <smartboyhw> Yep
[13:43] <greenit> this would be the other way
[13:43] <greenit> ;)
[13:43] <smartboyhw> The Ubuntu 12.04 and Ubuntu 12.10 Alpha Builds should have these options...
[13:43] <smartboyhw> DON'T USE THE DAILY BUILDS
[13:43] <Thomas_> that's what I don't know how to do, how to resize my NTFS partition, so I was wondering if I could find a step to step guide somewhere- google didn't help
[13:44] <samster34> Thomas_, in gparted, or in windows?
[13:44] <smartboyhw> Use EaseUS Partition Manager
[13:44] <smartboyhw> In Windows
[13:44] <samster34> NO
[13:44] <samster34> * no third party tools required
[13:44] <Thomas_> in none of these, in the Ubuntu installation CD
[13:44] <smartboyhw> Use Disk Management in Windows itseld
[13:44] <smartboyhw> itself
[13:45] <greenit> Thomas_, ok, then click on the ntfs-partition in the upper line, and click on the right-arrow with the |, looks like that ->|
[13:45] <smartboyhw> greenit & Thomas_: Better PM
[13:45] <ThinkT510> Thomas_: you can resize from gparted and reboot into windows to run chckfs
[13:45] <Thomas_> http://www.techspot.com/community/topics/step-by-step-beginners-guide-to-installing-ubuntu-11-10.172128/
[13:45] <smartboyhw> !guidelines
[13:45] <kartlos> does anyone have experience with grub-efi? how do I set up Xorg when booted with EFI?
[13:45] <Thomas_> visit this link please and go to the step 7C
[13:45] <Thomas_> that's where I am
[13:46] <greenit> Thomas_, oh, sry... forgot how it looks like^^
[13:46] <Thomas_> but I don't have that "free space option" that guy has
[13:46] <smartboyhw> That's why I never use GParted
[13:46] <smartboyhw> It gets me nuts
[13:46] <Thomas_> I only have /dev/sda and beneath it, /dev/sda1
[13:46] <greenit> Thomas_, then click on ur partition, choose "change..." and make it smaller
[13:47] <rogst> Thomas_: are you installing 11.10 ?
[13:47] <smartboyhw> I think he's using 12.04...
[13:47] <Thomas_> nope, 12.04
[13:47] <rogst> ok
[13:47] <smartboyhw> Use Wubi, maybe
[13:47] <Thomas_> alright I clicked change and I have 3 choices : Use as, Format the partition and mount point
[13:48] <Thomas_> the default option in Use as is :" do not use the partition"
[13:48] <rogst> Thomas_: Have you taken a backup of the data on your windows partition ?
[13:48] <Thomas_> nope
[13:48] <samster34> quick question...I remember Super+Left/Right docking the current window to the left or right of the screen like in Win7...but it doesn't anymore. CTRL+ALT+4/6 doesn't do anything either
[13:48] <kartlos> nobody booting with EFI here?
[13:48] <hanf> /echo $ip
[13:48] <rogst> Thomas_: you should backup your data since mixing with partition resize can mess up everything
[13:49] <Thomas_> greenit, can you pm me please?
[13:49] <samster34> kartlos, I might be. not exactly sure.
[13:49] <kartlos> samster34: have you explicitly installed grub-efi?
[13:49] <samster34> kartlos, no. done nothing different
[13:50] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy, if you're a Keepass2 user, does copying username or password to the clipboard work for you? If so, what WM are you using?
[13:50] <samster34> kartlos, to be fair, I have no idea if I'm using grub-efi or not.
[13:50] <Thomas_> hmm..what's the PM command in this?
[13:51] <smartboyhw> Just quote greenit
[13:51] <smartboyhw> or samster34
[13:51] <smartboyhw> or me
[13:51] <kartlos> Just went through the pain of installing grub-efi on a macbook pro5.3 running ubuntu 12.04 but for some reason Xorg can't find the screen? does anyone know anything about this issue?
[13:51] <zzzera> gateway.publicvpn.net
[13:51] <smartboyhw> BTW, what channel is for Wubi discussion? I don't find it on channels list...
[13:51] <samster34> Thomas_, mountpoint "/" is the main filesystem. you may or may not want to use one for "/home"
[13:51] <zzzera> https://epicfreeprizes.com/?ref=410766
[13:52] <Thomas_> alright, I'll create a partition from Windows, anyone know a good program for that?
[13:52] <smartboyhw> Just use WUBI!!!!
[13:52] <ThinkT510> Thomas_: you don't create a linux partition from windows
[13:52] <samster34> Thomas_, it's easy
[13:53] <Thomas_> I used WUBI before and I had some issues
[13:53] <Thomas_> so I was told to boot from CD
[13:53] <smartboyhw> I did before in 12.04
[13:53] <[4-tea-2]> No Keepass users? Any other recommendations for a multi-platform password manager?
[13:53] <smartboyhw> Use Ubuntu 12.10 Alpha 3 Wubi
[13:53] <smartboyhw> Performance is better
[13:53] <smartboyhw> I crashed my Wubi for 5 times in Ubuntu 12.04
[13:53] <samster34> Thomas_, open the disk manager (run diskmgmt.msc), select your windows partition, "shrink" it by how much space you want for ubuntu, now start the ubuntu setup again and you will have the choice to install alongside windows 7
[13:53] <Ztane> what was the package in 12.04 to install for getting gnome windows instead of unity?
[13:54] <smartboyhw> Only the installer...
[13:54] <Ztane> need to make 1 ubuntu run nicely within vmware
[13:54] <Thomas_> thanks samster and the rest of you
[13:54] <Thomas_> I'll be back perhaps
[13:54] <ThinkT510> !notunity | Ztane
[13:54] <MoneyDust> Ztane  fallback or gnome-shell
[13:54] <sipior> [4-tea-2]: keepassX is great. lastpass is also nice. i think even 1password has limited functionality under linux.
[13:55] <Ztane> ok thanks
[13:55] <samster34> I have a bit of a problem with one of my screens - it returns invalid EDID data, and so no modes for operation are detected :/
[13:55] <samster34> http://pastebin.com/2zYxi4Gz
[13:56] <[4-tea-2]> sipior: thanks, I'll try keepassx then, apparently it even learned to read Keepass2 files recently.
[13:57] <[4-tea-2]> s/read/support/
[13:59] <samster34> anyone have a clue how to configure the screen manually? I only need to get one mode working, 2560x1440@60Hz
[13:59] <ThinkT510> !xorg | samster34
[14:00] <samster34> ThinkT510: that doesn't work.
[14:01] <zykotick9> lol - the !xorg factoid should be updated to use upstart...
[14:01] <ThinkT510> zykotick9: haha, yeah
[14:02] <ThinkT510> !xorgconf | samster34
[14:04] <samster34> ThinkT510, I've tried adding the mode to the xorg.conf, but it doesn't like that either. flashes a picture shortly then turns bright red.
[14:05] <ThinkT510> samster34: i've never really had to fiddle with xorg.conf for years
[14:05] <ThinkT510> samster34: sorry i'm not much help
[14:07] <zcoob> Hi, can anyone tell me in what file i can change the default font and font size in 12.04?
[14:07] <zcoob> i know i can use gnome-tweak tool or myunity but id like to know where it is stored
[14:09] <lodder_> I would like to migrate my live arch linux system to ubuntu
[14:09] <subz3r0> zcoob: should be somewhere in ~/.config/dconf and/or ~/.gconf
[14:09] <zcoob> isnt it set globally too?
[14:09] <zcoob> thats what i'm looking for actually
[14:09] <subz3r0> no idea
[14:11] <[4-tea-2]> sipior: keepassx behaves more friendly, but is lacking at least one feature I was hoping to use - loading the password db from an URL (webdav in my case).
[14:12] <sipior> [4-tea-2]: depending on exactly what you want to accomplish, you can distribute the database with dropbox or the like.
[14:13] <amason_> exit
[14:15] <[4-tea-2]> sipior: I'd like to have the pw db on my local server and access it from Linux, Windows and Android, preferably without having to use SMB from Windows and Android.
[14:16] <[4-tea-2]> Android shouldn't be a problem, the client is read-only afaik and should be able to load the db from anywhere.
[14:16] <[4-tea-2]> But I fear this is getting too off-topic.
[14:16] <sipior> [4-tea-2]: sparkleshare might be an option. not sure what support is like for windows yet (my understanding is that it is still pre-beta)
[14:17] <[4-tea-2]> I'd rather not trust strangers with my pw db. :)
[14:17] <[4-tea-2]> A breakthrough in cryptography might be just around the corner. Like a quick way to factor primes. *g*
[14:18] <sipior> [4-tea-2]: factor primes, huh? good trick. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_number
[14:18] <[4-tea-2]> sipior: that was a quote ;)
[14:19] <colin_> Hi, this is a stupid question, but I cannot seem to upgrade certain packages at the command-line.. I end up having to upgrade them graphically... Can anyone help with this? The packages are the kernel image and the kernel headers...
[14:19] <[4-tea-2]> sipior: from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_Ahead_(Bill_Gates_book)
[14:19] <sipior> [4-tea-2]: ah :-)
[14:19] <sipior> colin_: what exact error are you getting?
[14:20] <colin_> sipior, Not getting an error. I just receive a message at the transaction summary that some packages are not going to be upgraded...
[14:20] <Pici> colin_: use the dist-upgrade argument
[14:21] <colin_> Pici, Thanks
[14:27] <L3top> sipior: by factoring primes he means prime factorization... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer_factorization
[14:27] <[4-tea-2]> sipior: side note: I'll need Windows to import my passwords into keepassx, keepass2 could read my revelation file, but only when run in Windows, it can export the pws to a keepass1 file that keepassx can read. oO
[14:27] <sipior> L3top: thank you, captain obvious.
[14:27] <[4-tea-2]> .o( I should go back to using password123 everywhere. )
[14:28] <L3top> You seemed confused. Sorry.
[14:28] <zcoob> you could use passwort123passwort123passwort123
[14:28] <zcoob> pretty safe
[14:28] <[4-tea-2]> L3top: you seem confused. I was quoting Bill Gates. :)
[14:28] <L3top> I am not confused, I am referring to the quote.
[14:28] <[4-tea-2]> zcoob: thanks, [x] problem solved
[14:29] <[4-tea-2]> L3top: ah, okay. I'm confused, then. :D
[14:29] <zcoob> man i can't find the file where the default font and fontsize is located ...
[14:29] <zcoob> so annoying
[14:29] <apg> hello
[14:30] <samster34> so...I have a crappy wireless signal, but on ubuntu it's so much slower than on windows, with the same reception
[14:30] <samster34> why? :/
[14:31] <tt5555> can someone tell me how to install gtk+-2 libraies
[14:31] <tt5555> im getting this error pastebin.com/NxPu0kvY
[14:31] <tt5555> hello?
[14:31] <[4-tea-2]> samster34: Perhaps some component (the driver?) handles the connection problems worse than the windows driver?
[14:31] <gusg> I'm on 10.04. Can I pull packages fro ma 12.04 repository? Namely GedDeb from UbuntuUpdates
[14:31] <rollitup> i added a new lens as mentioned in this blog post http://bit.ly/T4HO3Q after installing i logged out and logged in but it does not show up in the HUD
[14:32] <rollitup> can anyone point what i might be missing
[14:32] <samster34> [4-tea-2], hm, anything I can do about it? :/
[14:32] <tt5555> hello?
[14:32] <samster34> it's so slow, I'm not even getting my full internet bandwidth across it :/
[14:33] <L3top> gusg: you do NOT want to cross release repos. Will break your system.
[14:33] <[4-tea-2]> samster34: you could try a different driver, if the maker of the Wifi component provides one for Linux. :\
[14:33] <gusg> L3top, good to know. thanks. Will Ubuntu refuse to pull from there? Because  I tried with no success.
[14:34] <[4-tea-2]> samster34: on a wired NIC, I had performance issues that went away after replacing the kernel driver with a driver by the manufacturer of the card (Realtek, iirc). It's clutching at straws, though.
[14:34] <gusg> L3top: (not that I'll insist. I'm wondering if it was a protective measure or if I added the repo incorrectly)
[14:34] <bestdnd> using gnome classic (no effects). is there a keyboard shortcut for minimize window?
[14:35] <samster34> [4-tea-2], worth a try
[14:35] <L3top> It depends on its dependencies... if they are not available, which they shouldn't be unless you change your sources.list, it will bomb. If it has no or simple depends it could work... but... don't add precise repos to lucid... it will bust things.
[14:35] <[4-tea-2]> samster34: better than rebooting into Windows :)
[14:36] <samster34> [4-tea-2], no linux driver at all. >_>
[14:37] <fachher> Hello
[14:37] <[4-tea-2]> samster34: no idea then, sorry. Perhaps someone else can help.
[14:37] <fachher> I have some problems with my notebook.  SAMSUNG R530  Intel GMA 45.
[14:37] <samster34> meh, I can deal with sucky internet. I'd rather get my other screen to work :/
[14:39] <L3top> will need more details samster34 if you are asking for help getting something else to work
[14:39] <L3top> !details | fachher
[14:40] <matanya> anyone here would like to package something?
[14:40] <accidNOR> package what?
[14:40] <matanya> all hebrew fonts
[14:40] <dxd828__> hi guys!
[14:40] <samster34> L3top, one of my screens returns invalid EDID information, and I'm a bit lost with the whole xorg.conf thing because the nvidia-xconfig and nvidia-settings generated configs don't even mention the screeen in question
[14:41] <Ben0xA> jess88: Did you follow the guide here http://www.wirelessdefence.org/Contents/WirelessBuildHowto.htm before you installed void11?
[14:41] <accidNOR> how do you want it done?
[14:41] <jess88> yes i have
[14:41] <jess88> followed that
[14:41] <JoeyJoeJo> Is there a version of ubuntu that will run on MIPS processors?
[14:41] <Ben0xA> Yet, you said you were using ubuntu
[14:42] <L3top> samster34: can I get an output from xrandr -q ; lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A2
[14:42] <bestdnd> using gnome classic (no effects). is there a keyboard shortcut for minimize window? wikipedia say alt+f9m but it does nothing
[14:42] <rollitup> i added a lens and it does not show up in the HUD , can someone point me what i am doing wrong
[14:42] <samster34> L3top, yeah, one sec
[14:43] <fedora_> Can i install Unity on Fedora?
[14:43] <L3top> jess88: lsb_release -a
[14:43] <fachher> Here is my problem
[14:43] <L3top> fedora_: not the right channel to ask in I am afraid.
[14:43] <samster34> L3top, http://pastebin.com/WrgfLwkS
[14:43] <OerHeks> rollitup, after adding a lens, logout and login again
[14:44] <fachher> I have the problem with kernel 3 not with Kernel 2
[14:44] <accidNOR> joeyjoejo: check out debian
[14:44] <samster34> L3top, nvidia-settings somehow mashes my other 2 monitors into one X screen with "TwinView"...idk
[14:44] <rollitup> OerHeks: I already did that but still it does not show
[14:44] <L3top> Was I talking to you yesterday samster34?
[14:44] <samster34> yesterday? I don't think so
[14:44] <fedora_> L3top: :(
[14:44] <samster34> I've been here before though
[14:44] <fachher> When I move the mouse or scroll it stucks
[14:44] <eradicor> So then, what Display drivers work on Ubuntu atm? (the newer ones)
[14:45] <eradicor> Thinking about upgrading my NV 8600gt to something .. newer.
[14:45] <Beano> I am using Linux Mint
[14:45] <fachher> I mean it bucks
[14:45] <L3top> second time in a few hours I have seen this pciid samster34... and I havent seen it before... was just curious.
[14:45] <Beano> hard to find a firewire port on new laptops
[14:45] <DJones> !mint | Beano
[14:45] <L3top> !mint | Beano
[14:46] <game_recognize_g> why is mint ranked over ubuntu @distrowatch?
[14:46] <L3top> eradicor: most anything nVidia newer works with ubuntu.
[14:46] <L3top> !ot | game_recognize_g
[14:46] <game_recognize_g> sry
[14:47] <eradicor> L3top, Yeah the thing is, when i started with ubuntu (7.10) i was suggested the opposite. So i have no clue atm.
[14:47] <fachher> ubottu, when I move the mouse for example in a circle then the mousepointer bucking
[14:47] <L3top> samster34: can you explain in more detail each of these connections from monitor to pc, and let me know if there are any adapters/converters in the mix.
[14:48] <fachher> L3top, when I move the mouse for example in a circle then the mousepointer bucking
[14:48] <brianV> hi all. Is there any way to install dependencies for a given package via apt without installing the package itself? Ie, if I wanted to install wine's dependencies without installing the wine package?
[14:48] <samster34> L3top, ok, there's 3 screens total. 1920x1200 over DVI, 1920x1200 over HDMI, and 2560x1440 over Dual link DVI
[14:48] <L3top> eradicor: the nvidia unified driver is certified for linux on almost everything. Go to nvidia.com and plug in the type, and you can see.
[14:48] <accidNOR> add dependencies to the .ini file
[14:49] <accidNOR> why do it when you dont want the package? :P
[14:49] <L3top> samster34: dual link dvi?
[14:49] <samster34> L3top, yes
[14:50] <fachher> L3top, when I use Ubuntu 10.04 with Kernel 2.6 everything works fine.
[14:50] <L3top> 1004 strong like bull.
[14:50] <fachher> L3top, when I use Ubuntu 10.04 with Kernel 3 i've got the same Problem.
[14:50] <samster34> L3top, double the data rate of single link/regular DVI. for big resolutions and stuff.
[14:50] <brianV> accidNOR: because I compile Wine with custom patchsets, so I want to install the wine1.5 dependencies without actual wie ;)
[14:51] <samster34> L3top, the screen displays fine during boot, and at what looks like native res on the splash screen as well, so the connection looks fine
[14:51] <winnie666> brianV, the dependencies won't necessarily be the same
[14:51] <fachher> L3top, I've a fresh installation of Ubuntu 12.04. I've got here the same Problem
[14:51] <fachher> L3top, I know never change a runing system.
[14:52] <accidNOR> brianV: ahaa :) just add the link to package in file, and update the dependencies, this will download it, but not install it
[14:52] <brianV> winnie666: not necessarily, but in this case, the depencies from the Wine1.5 package from the Wine PPA will be close enough, since that is just behind the current HEAD
[14:52] <mnice> hello
[14:52] <brianV> accidNOR: what file? Not sure I follow on that point
[14:52] <accidNOR> ey
[14:52] <L3top> samster34: your current display says it is dishing out at 3840x1200 x 50.
[14:52] <mnice> where can i take a driver for this: 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) ?
[14:52] <mnice> !broadcom
[14:52] <brianV> there is no apt-get dep wine1.5 or something?
[14:52] <samster34> L3top, I know...it's some weird crap.
[14:52] <L3top> samster34: I believe you are going to need a newer driver than what is in the repos... probably xswat.
[14:53] <L3top> yeah you need at least 302.19 I believe.
[14:53] <accidNOR> like the good man said: PPA to the repository adress file.
[14:53] <m477> if I put in to terminal a few lines of commends will it be processed one by one?
[14:53] <accidNOR> sources.list
[14:53] <accidNOR> /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:54] <accidNOR> add adress there. and then update the file, and download files
[14:54] <L3top> fachher: mouse troubles are not my strongsuit I am afraid.
[14:54] <samster34> L3top, that's what I did before, it didn't help...I've been running 304 from xswat for a while, went back to 295.something, and just installed the "regular" 302.something
[14:54] <nja> Help!
[14:54] <nja> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1030452/comments/12
[14:54] <samster34> L3top, weirdly enough, my nvidia-settings says I'm STILL running 295..
[14:54] <brianV> accidNOR: umm... right. I already have the PPA added. But I don't want to manually download the deps one by one
[14:54] <dna-and>  /quit
[14:54] <nja> How do I do that?
[14:55] <brianV> accidNOR: blah, I'll just install than remove the package. Might be risking cruft
[14:55] <samster34> L3top, http://imgur.com/NsPNT
[14:55] <accidNOR> just add everything you want to the list, and then sudo apt-get update
[14:55] <L3top> xswat has 304 samster34? That is supposed to be a beast of a driver... large performance gain and power saving at the same time. I will have to investigate that. Your nvidia-settings is still at 295... not the driver... apt-cache policy nvidia-current | grep -i installed
[14:56] <accidNOR> brianV: sorry man. im not a teaching expert :P
[14:56] <Sharky> hey guys is there updates to GNOME that are new?
[14:56] <brianV> accidNOR: no worries mate. Found something that worked
[14:57] <brianV> accidNOR: I just did an apt-get install, cancelled the install
[14:57] <brianV> accidNOR: took the displayed list of packeges, removed the ones I didn't want
[14:57] <MoneyDust> brianV  the repos contain the latest supported updates
[14:57] <brianV> accidNOR: and am running a new update
[14:57] <accidNOR> brianV: Nice :)
[14:57] <samster34> L3top, 302.17
[14:58] <rollitup> I get a permission denied error when compressing a site from the public_html folder , can point me in the right direction ?
[14:58] <rollitup> I am new to unix
[14:58] <rollitup> :(
[14:58] <L3top> one min samster34. I need to look something up, and get a cup o joe.
[14:58] <samster34> ok :)
[14:59] <Guest131> Hi. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and wanted to install VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-******.x86_64.bundle. Well, I ran sudo sh VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.2-**.x86_64.bundle. The installation runs smoothly but when i launch VMWorkstation the following message and question appears: data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAfYAAACECAIAAADtFJ6VAAAgAElEQVR4nO29d1QbWZ6wzf77fe/2hDPn7Oy8++63e3Zn9j3
[14:59] <Guest131> v7uy7swSplDPYvhQ5Z0zOwTkb2+CcjTHG2W4njO22cQATDBibDEVWSZQEIgpFg91zdnb6+6MkIYES3fTQTd86z+GIUt1bv/urqkdXVyVdl7htzJjNjKh8ekQOEpZFZdApEAgEAvmR0n324GDJEUnpCfnV0xM3zrnEbGZE5tHCsxHy6eAgH3NCFuMbEmxB6FJCSPxIwqwSasI/3CphC0QYCFhMuIFICwIXiFggygpBURFBUZEGom0RFUwSY4toA7HRITaJCYmNCYkzEGqF2NC42ND4xYRZEBe20TrhBuLDExwQkbjRAUkJEUkJkXZITohMTjQRtZSUxKiUpEVEm5NKkmyVGJK05Ji0FDvEppOk2iSDJC3OKVJjM2xXlZ5q2F1aSqy9qIzBpybHWG9
[14:59] <Guest131> dUnSqZSpSkqIX58paSpMToxZybvfoJCVEJiU4PsoJ8RH2T5WN8eEL55W1sy4+Lmzx+Wl59pKntPWzPSYkLsZwUdi5akxXlq1Lz3Rt2rp4o8yJCFoqAXNFWKjDTCkmz1hRUJh/RJiFrKzaLCzUf8F41nwYuoBvaIgVqS6ybkiQ7yIzm0vbIPozB4dLjhFXTrlE5dNJv3sDTwgEAoGsARh0SseZg4MlR10ichAGnQI2iCAQCASyZiAt7xKaSYWKh0AgkDUGg055f2KfC4NO2bBe6CTr1wm8vHieIp5IxBUKOQ4RCNjkX4GAzeez+Hym6S+50rSNvVI8cnuWUMDx8uSt8+KTkTgfNgQCgfwEYdApLgw6Zf06gUPWefE9PbkiAZvLpjEZFBrigVDdaYg
[14:59] <fachher> L3top, it is not a problem with the mouse
[14:59] <FloodBot1> Guest131: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:59] <Guest131> Hk0HhsmkiPkskYC9CyGcJ+SwBn8XnMVhMhEHzoFHdqBRXGtWNQfNgMRE+jyHgs8jNzEqR2CnFFAoNrncmcsh3gyfkMtlMOlf4/WfbiyfksThslsjrBxPSd4oTAlllnFX8Oi++p5DH4zLoiPvRKJ/6bXGyw1mfz2+VHc6q3xZ3NMqHhrjzuAyRkGNCKGALBWwBn8Vh0RCqW1ho4Kb8rKLCgpKLZ4sKCzblZ4WFBiJUNw6LJuCzyI0tSrFpCNUtwB/duiW3qKjg/LmTh4sKtm3NDwr0JUsJBWxo+e8fnpDnFZOz/fDJIzsC2d+vUr14QhGITM7atTsrmG/Hnn/BkL5TnIL1XnxPIdcTvgxAVg+D4td58e3g5ckTCTkcNj1IyBw5kPL1qezPJzI+H0v
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[14:59] <accidNOR> wtf man
[14:59] <MoneyDust> nice one :)
[14:59] <fedora_> rollitup: your user does not have the permissions to copy the directory, you need to see what user you need to be to copy the files. If it is web related its likely to be www-data
[15:00] <fedora_> rollitup: If you become root then you will be able to copy it fine :)
[15:00] <rollitup> i tried sudo mydir.zip mysite.com/ but it creates a zip file but with 0 filesize
[15:01] <L3top> out of curiosity samster34 is this a 32 or 64 bit install
[15:01] <samster34> L3top, 64,
[15:01] <rollitup> i am currently logged in as the main user that i had created when installing ubuntu
[15:02] <samster34> L3top, hm. I thought I had 304 from x-swat, but now all I see is 302.17
[15:02] <accidNOR> have you added the user to admin?
[15:03] <fedora_> rollitup: what do you get if you type: ls -l /path/to/my/dir ?
[15:03] <samster34> L3top, so, you said I'd need 302.19? :S
[15:05] <Guest131> Hi. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and wanted to install VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-******.x86_64.bundle. Well, I ran sudo sh VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.2-**.x86_64.bundle. The installation runs smoothly but when i launch VMWorkstation the following message and question appears: Before you can run VMware, several modules must be complied and loaded into running kernel.
[15:05] <nsahoo> what is the difference between installing xubuntu-desktop vs installing xfce4
[15:06] <L3top> no... actually yours is covered as of 295.59. http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/295.59/README/supportedchips.html and your current http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/302.17.59/README/supportedchips.html
[15:06] <L3top> samster34: ^
[15:06] <samster34> L3top, so, what now
[15:07] <L3top> So I try and build you an xorg.conf and force that weirdo dual dvi to go samster34.
[15:07] <rollitup> fedora_:  i get this d-wx--x--x 22 astrix astrix     4096 Apr 18 23:10 maxie-cooper.com
[15:07] <accidNOR> nsahoo: two different types? google it
[15:08] <binarymutant> how do I get nouveau to use glx?
[15:08] <samster34> L3top, but how :S nvidia produced a weird config that only mentions one of the three monitors
[15:08] <nsahoo> I am sorry, I lost that message about xubuntu and xfce
[15:09] <samster34> L3top, and when I try to disable the twinview crap and have them as separate screens, and apply those settings, and restart X, the dual DVI screen flashes red and the others stay black, and I can't do anything but reboot
[15:09] <L3top> samster34: It is going to be difficult to keep you at your desired resolution. I believe that this is part of the problem. Xorg sets a limitation for your virtual desktop size (of which each screen is a devisor) and I am not familiar with this technology, and do not know how it will behave. There may be a lot of rebooting involved, and testing undesired resolutions closer to 720p to see if this is the problem.
[15:09] <MoTec> what?  i've got to install bind to get nslookup?!?  Can that really be right?
[15:10] <L3top> yes MoTec
[15:10] <L3top> How much time are you willing to invest in this samster34?
[15:10] <smartboyhw> No time at all!!!
[15:11] <Guest131>  I found an article to a soution of problem but there is some things I cannot stand. THanks for any idea on how to proceed.
[15:11] <samster34> L3top, :/
[15:11] <MoneyDust> Guest131  what are you struggling with?
[15:12] <Guest131> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and wanted to install VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-******.x86_64.bundle. Well, I ran sudo sh VMware-Workstation-Full-8.0.3-*****.x86_64.bundle. The installation runs smoothly but when i launch VMWorkstation the following message and question appears: Before you can run VMware, several modules must be complied and loaded into running kernel.
[15:12] <smartboyhw> L3Top: :-)
[15:12] <samster34> L3top, as much as it takes, I suppose :/
[15:12] <MoneyDust> Guest131  ubuntu has virtualbox, it's better supported here
[15:12] <L3top> samster34: your call. I am happy to get this rolling... but it is gonna take a while. I have to generate custom modelines for each monitor, some not giving me any edid data... build large xorg.confs etc... I am willing to do it, because of my own reasons... but... I dont want to get half way through and you get frustrated and bail.
[15:13] <samster34> L3top, I have the EDID exported from windows
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> chmod wont work at all on share i think WHAT_UP
[15:13] <samster34> it has th emode and all.
[15:13] <Guest131> MoneyDust, already running VB but VMware is more resilient, even I have an experience with it from WIndows. May I PM you about that article?
[15:13] <ghoti> Is there a Linux equivalent to BSD's "nullfs"?  I've got a filesystem that I would like to mount into multiple VPS containers, but I'd like to avoid the overhead of NFS-mounting-from-localhost.
[15:14] <samster34> L3top, I don't suppose that would help ? :)
[15:14] <MoneyDust> Guest131  no, i'm not familiar with it and the channel is safer
[15:14] <L3top> That is confusing to me samster34. If it is spitting EDID then it is spitting EDID. I would not expect linux to be confused by it. Regardless... that isnt particularly helpful here.
[15:14] <Maior> I'm trying to have an Ubuntu box with libvirt and KVM; why does libvirt-bin seem to depend on libxenstore3.0?
[15:15] <Maior> (this seems odd, I don't *want* Xen)
[15:15] <samster34> L3top, spitting EDID? hm?
[15:15] <ackbahr> Hi!
[15:15] <samster34> L3top, linux apparently isn't able to pull ANY EDID off the screen.
[15:15] <L3top> Lets not clutter up chat with experimenting. Mind PM?
[15:16] <samster34> L3top, http://pastebin.com/2zYxi4Gz
[15:16] <Guest131> MoneyDust. Good. I'll pastebin useful stuff here and you can check it up that way.
[15:16] <ackbahr> I'm using yas (dialog utility for scripts) and I can't find how to display messages in *multi* progress (transposing the method for simple progress bar doesn't work).
[15:17] <fedora_> 1
[15:18] <Guest131> MoneyDust, http://pastebin.com/yYEiR1qn I don't understand some parts. Please have a look.
[15:18] <samster34> L3top, and this is the EDID exported from windows for the screen in question: http://pastebin.com/HNmN3tgG
[15:19] <Guest44873> que pedo
[15:19] <L3top> samster34: dpkg -l *nvidia* | grep ^ii
[15:19] <MoneyDust> Guest131  that problem is beyond my knowledge and experience, maybe someone else can help
[15:21] <Guest131> MoneyDust, I do not understand common cases. E.g. 3: Save the original source tar file as /usr/lib/vmware/modules/source/vmnet.tar.orig
[15:21] <MoTec> Well, I installed dnsutils, which installed bind9, so I could get nslookup... Then I uninstalled bind9.  Still seems stupid that I had to install bind to get nslookup.
[15:21] <zain6267> Hi, Using the Ubuntu live cd I put Ubuntu on my external hard drive, but in the dual boot menu the option 'Ubuntu' does not show up?
[15:21] <MoneyDust> Guest131  kindly address someone else, please, i cannot help with that
[15:21] <Guest131> Oh.
[15:22] <zain6267> Hello?
[15:22] <laumonier> hi what is the name of the command equivalent to a double tab which show all the avaible command? thx
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> howdy
[15:22] <zain6267>  Hi, Using the Ubuntu live cd I put Ubuntu on my external hard drive, but in the dual boot menu the option 'Ubuntu' does not show up?
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> laumonier:  is none that ive ever noticed
[15:23] <llutz> laumonier: "ls $(echo $PATH|sed 's#:# #g')"  ;)
[15:24] <zain6267> Can I please have help?
[15:24] <laumonier> llutz, there is no  a thing more simple like commandlist or a  thing like that?
[15:25] <llutz> laumonier: nothing i know
[15:25] <Guest131> zain6267, what can you expect from a free support? -.-
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> zain6267:  you sure you are booting the right hd? sure grub installed to the external hd? ive installed and ran from ext. hd many times with no issues
[15:26] <v0lksman> anyone know how to reset a vino-server password remotely?
[15:26] <localg0d> If i reinstall gnome desktop will it reset any internal crash or errors such as taskbars loosing everything on them ?
[15:26] <OerHeks> v0lksman, you can't, except if you have ssh access to that machine.
[15:26] <zain6267> Im quite sure, as it works on a different computer, I previously had ubuntu on it and only got this after I removed it and reinstalled
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> localg0d:  using the package manager tools should NOT touch anything in the user home dirs.
[15:27] <zain6267> Ive tried to add it using easyBCD but it does not work
[15:27] <localg0d> dr_willis: I had to hold the power button the other day and reboot hard/cold and when i did after a freeze i lost everything and had to readd manually the things that make the task bar look familiar
[15:27] <localg0d> is there a wayto fix it to be the way it was like when i installed gnome fallback session ?
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> localg0d:  file system curruption sounds like
[15:28] <Guest131> Dr_Willis, how can I save a .tar file as .tar.orig?
[15:28] <kop> how to install WVDIAL in backtrack ?
[15:28] <v0lksman> OerHeks: well how else would you do it remotely?  :)
[15:28] <localg0d> how would I check said issue dr_willis ?
[15:28] <llutz> !backtrack | kop
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> localg0d:  remoce the old setting files and it will use the defaults
[15:28] <OerHeks> v0lksman, i do not.
[15:28] <brontosaurusrex> laumonier, perhapsh : compgen -cab
[15:28] <MoneyDust> kop  type /join #backtrack-linux
[15:28] <localg0d> how do i do that ?
[15:28] <llutz> Guest131: cp foo.tar foo.tar.orig
[15:28] <localg0d> may i query you dr_willis ?
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> localg0d:  myunity and ubuntu-tweak have features to reset things
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> im at work. so have to leave soon.
[15:29] <zain6267> I have managed to launch the grub menu but uubuntu is not listed
[15:29] <v0lksman> OerHeks: I have ssh access...I can export vino-preferences and have tried to set a new password yet I'm still getting refused...
[15:29] <localg0d> how do i install ubuntu tweak ?
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> localg0d:  to to its homepage and get it
[15:30] <MoneyDust> localg0d  it's not in the repos, you have to go to ubuntu-tweak.com
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> or try myunity
[15:30] <histo> !grub | zain6267
[15:31] <localg0d> thank you sir ;)
[15:31] <zain6267> thanks Ubottu
[15:31] <kartlos> hey guys
[15:32] <kartlos> I was wondering whether someone is booting ubuntu with grub-efi?
[15:32] <smartboyhw> No.
[15:32] <BluesKaj> zain6267:  try selecting the external as default in the bios , it will have grub installed ,then when you boot iinto ubuntu run sudo update-grub , it shouid show both OSs installed on both HDDs
[15:32] <gry> hi, 11.10-12.04 upgrade, networking is present but networkmanager applet says 'networking disabled', wired network tab is empty and I try to add new one, the add new wired connection dialog has greyed-out options?
[15:32] <smartboyhw> I don't even know how to get INTO EFI!
[15:32] <smartboyhw> Anyone know how to get to EFI shell?
[15:32] <Guest131> llutz, does .tar.orig has a different meaning or simply renaming?
[15:32] <llutz> Guest131: just renaming
[15:32] <llutz> Guest131: or in this case: back up
[15:33] <kartlos> smartboyhw: you should replace grub by grub-efi
[15:33] <smartboyhw> How about from Windows?
[15:33] <smartboyhw> I mean booting into Windows using EFI (Offtopic a bit)
[15:33] <kartlos> smartboyhw: don't anything about windows....
[15:33] <imp7> ok, I've got a question.  Setup a chroot env and I'm wondering why /var/run is linked to /run in the chroot.
[15:34] <imp7> Is that werid to you too?
[15:34] <llutz> imp7: thats default
[15:34] <kartlos> smartboyhw: here are instructions for macs http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/index.html
[15:34] <imp7> Default yes but a reason why?  I can't see it right now.
[15:34] <Guest131> llutz, have a look this article, I don't understand some common things http://pastebin.com/jaCqaM8C
[15:34] <llutz> imp7: http://askubuntu.com/questions/57297/why-has-var-run-been-migrated-to-run
[15:35] <smartboyhw> I am on a Compaq Presario Notebook!!!!!!!!
[15:35] <imp7> wonderful, thanks
[15:35] <kartlos> smartboyhw: why do you want to boot using EFI then?
[15:35] <histo> smartboyhw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[15:35] <smartboyhw> Secure Boot?
[15:35] <smartboyhw> Though I hate Secure Boot
[15:35] <smartboyhw> Trashes Ubuntu.
[15:35] <kartlos> secure boot sucks
[15:36] <kartlos> smartboyhw: forget windows dude
[15:37] <brianV> should I be mounting NTFS drives from WIN7 as ntfs or ntfs-3g?
[15:38] <Guest131> Illutz, 1. untarred to /temp; 2. applied (pasted) the patch but it also says run patch in dir, as it is .diffs file-no idea
[15:39] <llutz> Guest131: patch < patchfile
[15:41] <Guest131> Illutz, it says. run patch in the directory. how to run .diffs patch file in terminal or in GUI?
[15:41] <applematt> I have a question regarding updates. Can a dist-upgrade be performed in the same fashion as a Debian system or has Ubuntu changed that process?
[15:42] <llutz> Guest131: cd into the dir you untared the archive to and also copy the patchfile there. then run "patch <patchfile" in that dir
[15:42] <ThinkT510> !dist-upgrade | applematt
[15:43] <applematt> Thanks, ThinkT510 & ubottu!! :)
[15:43] <Guest131> cool. did it successfully
[15:48] <sicp> does the Ubuntu I download from ubuntu.com come only with the Unity session? no KDE and Xfce?
[15:48] <fbio> mudar de canal
[15:48] <fbio> como faco pra entrar em outro canal
[15:49] <fbio> como faco pra entrar em outro canal
[15:49] <genii-around> !br | fbio
[15:52] <signornessuno> hi
[15:53] <signornessuno> someone send mail from mi account to my address book, what should i do?
[15:54] <kinter> Hi!
[15:56] <kinter> I was wondering if there was a way in emapthy to receive a notification when a specific contact comes online
[15:57] <jjk> I am planning to create an ubuntu distro with certain software packages installed before sending it of to friends but how do I turn my currently installed ubuntu os into an installation dvd?
[15:58] <himanshu_m786> hi , i am currently having ubuntu 12.04 with kernel 3.2.0-27 . i was testing a new kernel 3.3.3 . so when i restarted my computer i got kernel panic !! . now when ever i restart my computer i get kernel panic . and again restarting my computer(using atl-clt-del) i have to choose a old kernel from the menu that appears at the start . is there any way out of this .?
[15:59] <Mandalord> himanshu_m786: remove the testing kernel
[15:59] <himanshu_m786> Mandalord : how ?
[16:01] <game_recognize_g> jjk: why not create an image?
[16:01] <DanielHoffman> I have a functional LAMP Server that I can conn ect to via a Local Network but I cant connect to it through the Internet, I port forwarded, do you think it is iptables?
[16:01] <Mandalord> himanshu_m786: well, you have to searche for the kernel: linux-headers, linux-headers generic, linux-image
[16:01] <Mandalord> then sudo apt-get remove
[16:01] <himanshu_m786> Mandalord : ok ..
[16:02] <game_recognize_g> jjk: or write a short script to install the additional packages
[16:02] <jjk> game_recognize_g: If I create an image and burn it onto a DVD can I then install it onto another PC?
[16:02] <game_recognize_g> jjk: and copy config files
[16:02] <Mandalord> himanshu_m786: use "dpkg --get-selections | grep 3.3.3" to search
[16:02] <jjk> it is ment for people who do not have acces to the internet on certain devices
[16:02] <Mandalord> himanshu_m786: after that, i think you should update grub
[16:03] <game_recognize_g> jjk: depends
[16:03] <game_recognize_g> jjk: rather not the way you imagine
[16:03] <himanshu_m786> Mandalord : ok .. wait doing
[16:03] <jjk> game_recognize_g: how do people that create bio-linux etc create these distro's?
[16:04] <game_recognize_g> jjk: full tar archive creation
[16:04] <game_recognize_g> jjk: boot from live cd
[16:04] <game_recognize_g> partition and format drive
[16:04] <game_recognize_g> in a comparable fashion
[16:04] <game_recognize_g> and install grub
[16:04] <jjk> game_recognize_g: Yes but that is probably more complicated for certain people
[16:05] <game_recognize_g> jjk: maybe
[16:05] <jjk> game_recognize_g: I would like to create a linux distro with certain packages included to it that are sometimes not found in the apt-get
[16:05] <game_recognize_g> jjk: write a short instruction
[16:06] <game_recognize_g> jjk: no idea about an easy way
[16:06] <kartlos> finally I've got ubuntu 12.04 working properly on macbook pro5.3 :D
[16:06] <game_recognize_g> jjk: without inet
[16:06] <jjk> game_recognize_g: I'll have a look around thanks anyway but i have to go now dammit :P
[16:06] <himanshu_m786> Mandalord : in /boot/ i see that in config-3.3.3 is having many error .
[16:06] <jjk> will be back later
[16:07] <himanshu_m786> Mandalord : should i recompile .?
[16:08] <himanshu_m786> .
[16:09] <Mandalord> himanshu_m786: what are you doing? just run "sudo update-grub". Grub2 will automatically find the kernel
[16:09] <himanshu_m786> Mandalord  : oh .. ok i am doing this only .
[16:10] <Mandalord> himanshu_m786: It will delete the entry of the testing kernel, if you have removed it
[16:12] <himanshu_m786> Mandalord  : i have not deleted it . should i delete file in /boot related to 3.3.3
[16:12] <himanshu_m786> ?
[16:12] <Mandalord> himanshu_m786: How did you install the testting kernel? Via repo or compile?
[16:13] <himanshu_m786> Mandalord  : compile
[16:13] <Mandalord> himanshu_m786: Did you want to remove the testing kernel or just delete the boot entry or something?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> BBL
[16:13] <Blazemore> Ubuntu got a kernel update at some point in the last week. Is there anywhere I can see a summary of this update? Rebooting servers is a drag and I'd rather not update unless I have to. Is there an RSS feed I can subscribe to so I can see whether these kinds of updates are worth installing immediately?
[16:14] <someone235> someone succeed to install whatsapp on ubuntu?
[16:14] <himanshu_m786> Mandalord  : testing kernel . just get me out of here .
[16:18] <Mandalord> himanshu_m786: Try apt-get remove linux-image-3.3.3-custom
[16:19] <himanshu_m786> Mandalord  : i got ***E: Unable to locate package linux-image-3.3.3-custom ***E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-3.3.3-custom'
[16:20] <Mandalord> ah thats bad
[16:20] <Mandalord> himanshu_m786: well, the only choice left, browse to /etc/grub.d
[16:21] <Mandalord> himanshu_m786: change file relating linux or something
[16:22] <Mandalord> to delete the entry of the new kernel
[16:22] <te> Mandalord: See what is actually installed.  ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux*
[16:22] <himanshu_m786> Mandalord  : i saw that when i updated grub .. it searched for the file in /boot . then there it found the higher kernel number . and then reconifgured it . should i delete those 3.3.3 in /boot and again config the grub again .
[16:24] <Mandalord> himanshu_m786: well, if you upgrade your old kernel in the future (ie. 3.2.0-28), the testing kernel will reappear since we dont know how to remove it
[16:24] <wrapids> Easiest way to use IE9 on Ubuntu?
[16:24] <hektik> DONT
[16:25] <wrapids> hektik: But it's the bestest browser :(
[16:25] <wrapids> But seriously, gotta do some debugging on a magento site for IE9
[16:25] <Mandalord> wrapids: bestest?
[16:25] <te> Mandalord:   ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-umage*  #shorter list
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> wrapids  sudo apt-get purge IE9
[16:25] <wrapids> Mandalord: Giving him crap
[16:25] <wrapids> MonkeyDust: That's not productive.
[16:28] <Mandalord> te: what are you suggesting?
[16:28] <te> BladedThesis: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/  #Look at dates, (for list of updates)
[16:29] <te> Mandalord: I was suggesting command:  "ls  /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*"  for finding out what all kernels one has installed.
[16:30] <Mandalord> te: i dont have any problem, himanshu_m786 has
[16:30] <te> ok
[16:31] <Mandalord> te: anyway, that command not work for me:D
[16:31] <wrapids> Anyways, recommendations for using IE9 on Ubuntu?
[16:31] <te> Mandalord: If you have Ubuntu it would.
[16:31] <game_recognize_g> wrapids: vm
[16:31] <wrapids> game_recognize_g: Was hoping to avoid that particular method
[16:31] <Mandalord> te: i used lubuntu, it did not work :)
[16:31] <rypervenche> wrapids: The best way to use IE9 on Ubuntu is to install Windows on your computer and ask ##Windows for help. :/
[16:32] <te> Mandalord: You must have misstyped.
[16:32] <wrapids> rypervenche: As per my question _on_ _ubuntu_
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> wrapids  the best thing you can do with IE9, is deleting it
[16:32] <Mandalord> te: i think ls  /var/lib/dpkg/info/ | grep linux-image should be better
[16:32] <himanshu_m786> Mandalord  : i deleted the 3.3.3 file from /boot and then updated grub .i worked and configured for 3.2.0-27 .  . now i am restarting the computer . anyword ?
[16:32] <wrapids> MonkeyDust: I don't need your opinion on the software, I have to have it.
[16:32] <te> ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*
[16:32] <te> willl do same
[16:32] <rypervenche> wrapids: wrapids I don't think you're going to find anyone that will help you with that one... Most will properly just make fun of you. :X
[16:33] <Mandalord> te: oh sorry, forget "*"
[16:33] <MegaBellRide> oh
[16:33] <rypervenche> probably*
[16:33] <wrapids> rypervenche: Gotta have it.
[16:33] <Mandalord> te: thx anyway
[16:33] <MegaBellRide> this channel fill my eyes
[16:33] <MegaBellRide> WOW OMG
[16:33] <rypervenche> wrapids: VM would be the best answer.
[16:33] <te> Mandalord: Yes, as I said, you miss-typed
[16:33] <MegaBellRide> how many people!
[16:33] <wrapids> rypervenche: :(
[16:34] <MegaBellRide> the ubuntu community everyday comes growing
[16:34] <NewWorld> wrapids:  Have you checked WineHQ? - there should be steps/tips there
[16:35] <wrapids> NewWorld: IE9 doesn't work with it
[16:35] <NewWorld> oh
[16:35] <MegaBellRide> anybody from brazil here?
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[16:35] <game_recognize_g> wrapids: why ie9
[16:35] <khaki> is there a good apache/mod_rewrite channel to get help on?
[16:35] <wrapids> game_recognize_g: particular bug with IE9 exclusively on a site I'm working on.
[16:36] <wrapids> Er, phrasing was bad but I imagine you got it.
[16:36] <game_recognize_g> wrapids: put it in a vm
[16:37] <MegaBellRide> i know
[16:37] <te> Mandalord: ls  /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list  #For a shorter list.
[16:37] <khaki> if someone would like to offer some assistance with mod_rewrite problem, feel free to msg me
[16:38] <himanshu_m786> Mandalord :  hi . it worked . thanks
[16:38] <MegaBellRide> I would like if here have brazilian people, all right?
[16:39] <killmaker> can i change root in a vm
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> MegaBellRide  type /join #ubuntu-br
[16:39] <Mandalord> te: thx, remember it:D
[16:39] <te> Yea..... FYI...
[16:39] <killmaker> useing ubuntu 12.04
[16:39] <Mandalord> himanshu_m786: np
[16:39] <rypervenche> killmaker: You mean change the root username?
[16:40] <MegaBellRide> i'm joined in ubuntu BR, but, i don't make friendship with yours?
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> MegaBellRide  this is the support channel, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic to make friends
[16:41] <killmaker> no i mean chroot to my system
[16:41] <MegaBellRide> ¬¬
[16:41] <MegaBellRide> so sorry
[16:41] <MegaBellRide> hehehehe
[16:41] <MegaBellRide> thnx so much
[16:42] <te> killmaker: So you want to mount and chroot to a VM guest?
[16:42] <te> killmaker: If so, why?  What is your end goal?
[16:42] <killmaker> i want to use the vm to chroot to my system
[16:42] <te> killmaker: You need to be more specific.
[16:43] <metalx1000> killmaker: the questions is why would you want to do that?
[16:43] <MegaBellRide> no no no, i just chat with the ubuntu community, i'm joined the ubunut- offftopic channel's for this...
[16:43] <killmaker> i want to use arch but i need to update it useing wifi
[16:44] <MegaBellRide> I would not dare, making supprt for this community, i'm just a newbie in ubunut discovering the real linux community.
[16:45] <jess88> im getting this error when i try and install a program, what does it mean? http://pastebin.com/hVzWsw9A
[16:45] <jess88> hello?
[16:47] <Depth> hey
[16:47] <histo> jess88: what are you trying to install?
[16:47] <trism> jess88: the -lvoid11 is listed before the object files, so the linker can't resolve the references with the new behavior in 11.10+
[16:47] <trism> jess88: you will have to patch the make/automake files to fix the order or raise a bug with the developers of the code
[16:48] <jess88> how do i do that?
[16:48] <trism> jess88: where did you get the code?
[16:48] <Depth> I've reinstalled my pc and running on windows with an i7 atm. Now I want a second partition with ubuntu and only get an amd64 installer. I don't want to use a torrent
[16:48] <alankila> I sometimes just copypaste the gcc line that links stuff and modify it manually
[16:48] <jess88> from this site http://www.wirelessdefence.org/Contents/Void11Main.htm
[16:49] <alankila> once the target is built, the make tends to continue
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> jess88  in short: you need developer's skills to do what you want
[16:49] <alankila> fixing autotools-generated gunk is nobody's idea of fun
[16:49] <jess88> im sure it worked before
[16:49] <bobweaver> alankila,  +500
[16:50] <Depth> So - Where do I get an i386 download without torrent?
[16:52] <xangua> Depth: ubuntu.com
[16:52] <Depth> xangua I only find the 10.04 there o.o
[16:52] <histo> Depth: is there a reason you don't want 64bit?
[16:53] <Depth> I don't want amd histo :D
[16:53] <bobweaver> !dailybuilds
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> Depth  ubuntu.com/download
[16:53] <bobweaver> !dailybuild
[16:53] <histo> Depth: right on the download page you can grab alternatives
[16:53] <bobweaver> Depth http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[16:54] <histo> Depth: http://mirror01.th.ifl.net/releases/
[16:54] <bobweaver> what is thet Oo ^^
[16:54] <bobweaver> that *
[16:54] <histo> Depth: any mirror will have the releases
[16:54] <Depth> Quantal Quetzal <= Is that the name of the actual version? :)
[16:55] <L3top> jess88 is on backtrack firstly. Refuses to read and understand how to compile secondly. Word to the wise. Been here for 2+ days trying to get someone to hold his hand compiling on an unsupported OS.
[16:55] <bobweaver> Depth,  what version are you looking for ?
[16:55] <Depth> The newest .. :D
[16:55] <bobweaver> Depth,  ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:56] <bobweaver> This channel is only for *supported* versions of Ubuntu
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> Depth  you're not in the right channel
[16:56] <Netbus> Greetings!
[16:57] <trism> L3top: would have thought it would have worked in backtrack, the linker changes didn't happen until 11.10 in ubuntu (and I found the bug if the user had waited a sec, used LDFLAGS instead of LDADD, common problem in upstreams)
[16:58]  * L3top stares at that and blinks
[16:58] <BluesKaj> Depth:   Quantal Quetzal  is the latest alpha version , but if you want support #ubuntu+1 is the place to ask
[16:58] <L3top> Yeah I make video cards work.
[16:58] <L3top> lol
[16:58] <RyanP> I have a system running 12.04 where some of the desktop features aren't working. Things like the shortcut overlay, and the drag to half/full screen don't work. They do work in the guest session. I've even tried removing my home directory, but that didn't work. How can I fix this?
[16:59] <L3top> RyanP: I would create a new admin user and never look back.
[17:01] <safinaskar> RyanP, create new user. Check that everything is ok and compare this home directories
[17:06] <WHAT_UP> don't you just love it when the best way to automate a process is by using "xvkbd -text [keystrokes + clicks go here]" ?
[17:06] <xangua> RyanP: did you try to reset unity or compiz settings¿
[17:06] <RyanP> xangua: Yes, I did.
[17:09] <xangua> RyanP: and do you have the Grid compiz plugin enabled¿
[17:10] <RyanP> xangua: No. Rather than poking at things, I deleted my account and recreated it. For whatever reason that worked, this time.
[17:12] <hav0c> hello
[17:12] <jflowersMTAP> has anyone been able to use dual monitors on 12.04 amd64 with nvidia-current driver
[17:12] <jflowersMTAP> All I get is a grey second monitor with an X mouse. Anyone know a work around?
[17:13] <te> RyanP: YOu couldn't have done it in that order.
[17:13] <te> RyanP: At any rate, you fixed it, so....
[17:14] <WHAT_UP> say i want to queue up a bunch of commands, the last one being done by root. how do i do this so that the password prompt shows up first?
[17:14] <WHAT_UP> i can't do everything as root, since it requires wine
[17:14] <ayzee> sudo
[17:14] <ayzee> oh
[17:14] <WHAT_UP> it's my and only my computer, so i'd be fine with even something stupid like sudo --password="hunter2" [blah] if possible
[17:15] <ayzee> uh... sudo -i <password prompt>; sudo the rest of the commands as another user (no prompt)
[17:15] <WHAT_UP> i'm considering using xvkbd for that now, but that seems stupid
[17:15] <ayzee> so that way you become root, and then you can sudo as the other user without a password, and then execute the last command as root
[17:15] <WHAT_UP> ayzee: how do i sudo a command as a different user?
[17:15] <wachpwnski> can i set ubuntu to use mac style command + c instead of ctrl + c type of thing?
[17:16] <jrib> WHAT_UP: one way would be to do everything with sudo but just call "su - -c COMMAND" on the other commands.  But you should explain exactly what you are trying to do in case we can give you better advice
[17:16] <ayzee> WHAT_UP: what i actually meant is what jrib said
[17:16] <WHAT_UP> jrib: i have one device mounted by root i want to copy the result to
[17:16] <ayzee> sudo to become root and use su to execute commands
[17:17] <jrib> WHAT_UP: result of what?
[17:17] <WHAT_UP> jrib: some script i wrote that creates an mp4 file
[17:17] <te> wachpwnski: What's the difference?
[17:17] <WHAT_UP> jrib: so it's just a sudo cp command at the end
[17:17] <te> wachpwnski: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[17:17] <jrib> WHAT_UP: can you not give your user access to that part of the mounted filesystem?
[17:18] <L3top> jflowersMTAP: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[17:18] <WHAT_UP> jrib: maybe. it's a mounted samba server i really only should be uploading files to. can i give a nonroot user access without messing up the server itself?
[17:19] <magma> hi, the texmaker in the repositories is the 3.2. But there is a more recent version, 3.4, when do they update the repository?
[17:19] <WHAT_UP> jrib: i'm not sure i understand how the sudo - -c thing works. can you give an example?
[17:19] <jrib> !sru | magma
[17:20] <jrib> WHAT_UP: su - some_other_user -c COMMAND
[17:20] <WHAT_UP> jrib: ah, got it. does COMMAND need to be in quotes?
[17:20] <te> jrib: It gives you the ability to issue a command as another user.
[17:20] <jrib> WHAT_UP: not sure
[17:20] <WHAT_UP> jrib: seems so. thanks!!
[17:21] <claudio> Boa tarde a todos!
[17:22] <DanielHoffman> I have a functional LAMP Server that I can connect to via a Local Network but I cant connect to it through the Internet, I port forwarded, do you think it is iptables?
[17:23] <te> DanielHoffman: We don't know.
[17:23] <DanielHoffman> then can you help at all?
[17:23] <L3top> I always get confused... which do I not want to use, useradd or adduser
[17:23] <te> DanielHoffman: But your port forwarding is done by the router.  (Assuming your ISP does not block it.)
[17:24] <rypervenche> L3top: Use adduser unless you know what you're doing.
[17:24] <DanielHoffman> it is port forwarded via the router
[17:24] <WHAT_UP> jrib: i think it works (i'll find out in a couple hours when the script is done). thank you!
[17:24] <te> DanielHoffman: No, we can not help at all, (based on the info you have so far proviced).
[17:24] <te> *provided
[17:25] <soulstitchmmo>  Why is the sound from my headphones always scratchy and sometimes does nothing but pop constantly?
[17:25] <DanielHoffman> I have a vanilla install of apache and I moved the website to /var/www, but an interesting thing it says is cannot detect fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1
[17:25] <te> DanielHoffman: http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
[17:26] <DanielHoffman> Port 80 is open on 24.216.167.60.
[17:26] <tommyvyo> is there a way i can have my ubuntu servers email me or notify me in some capacity anytime a security upgrade is available?
[17:26] <te> DanielHoffman: I don't think that matters.  If you can access the server locally, no reason you can't from outside, (providing your port forwarding is in place and your ISP is not blocking it).
[17:27] <m477> does ubuntu (newest) have any program which can  convert video file to gif?
[17:27] <te> DanielHoffman: ... and providing the server is using the correct IP.
[17:27] <rypervenche> tommyvyo: Definitely possible. You'd need to write a script for it and put it in a cronjob though. NOt sure if there's an easier way.
[17:28] <te> DanielHoffman: You may be able to test from inside by using the routers outside IP
[17:28] <sambagirl> 1͙̗̻͙͉̿̈́̎ͥͮ͐͜P̽ͥ͗͑͆͢͏̫̻͓̙̖̘͍͈̀ ̶̓̽̅ͭ҉͓͙͕͓̤̟͕i̴̛͔̱̇͐̒̐̃̓ͮs̫̅̆ͤ̿͑̿͂ ̧̣͖̤̋͊ͬa̟͍̼͔͕̘͕̥̬ͦͦ̐̍̍ ̡̞͓̼͚͈̼̩̈͊͌͢͠f̸̖̂̾̚͞ͅa͂̈̽̒͊͌
[17:28] <tommyvyo> oy! thanks rypervenche, seems like anytime i log onto any of my ubu servers theres always atleast 4-5 security updates… i figured there may be a solution outside of me writing one on my own
[17:29] <tommyvyo> any thoughts on how i'd access the number of updates available?
[17:29] <te> DanielHoffman: Ok, then, can you access the server from inside?
[17:29] <te> DanielHoffman: lynx -dump 192.168.1.x
[17:29] <soulstitchmmo> Does anyone else have problems using wireless headphones with ubuntu?
[17:30] <wu_> xiaose, mila wu? michara wu?
[17:30] <te> DanielHoffman: ... should return "It works!"
[17:30] <pheonixash> soul: what kind of wireless headphones
[17:30] <soulstitchmmo> logitech h800
[17:31] <te> DanielHoffman: And then check to see that the router is set to forward port 80 to that IP 192.168.1.x
[17:31] <wu_> xiaose: hio nohchi wu?
[17:31] <xiaose> wu: vu!
[17:31] <rypervenche> tommyvyo: You could run an "apt-get update" and grep through the output for the "Security Updates" line. If it is there you can have an email sent to you with the output. Place that in a cronjob and voila.
[17:31] <xiaose> wu: so nohchi wu
[17:32] <te> DanielHoffman: You can also test by using the outside IP. lynx -dump out.side.ip.x
[17:32] <te> DanielHoffman: Or:  lynx -dump out.side.ip.x/mysite/index.html
[17:32] <tommyvyo> that helps a ton rypervenche ! thank you :)
[17:33] <pheonixash> soul: what kind of problems you having?
[17:33] <soulstitchmmo> pheonixash: any sound that goes through my headphones is scratchy, and sometimes does nothing but pop and scratch
[17:36] <Mrokii> I have an idea for an app (or better a system component) for Ubuntu. Is there a special place for suggesting that, like a certain website or IRC room?
[17:37] <te> Mrokii: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[17:38] <genii-around> !brainstorm | Mrokii
[17:38] <Mrokii> te, genii-around: thanks, will take a look.
[17:39] <te> Mrokii: genii-around's answer is better
[17:40] <Mrokii> okay.
[17:40] <xwolf_> can i get ubuntu12.04 with all pacages installed
[17:41] <te> wolfbyte: What?
[17:42] <Benkinooby> hi, my hwclock is ok but my system times always get's messed up - even without reboot. who can help me? i already read and tried some suggestions from ubuntu forums but nothing did the job :(
[17:42] <magma> jrib I still don't understand. The author have to submit the update for approval ?
[17:43] <jrib> magma: once an ubuntu release is made, packages don't generally get updated unless there's a security issue or some really big bug
[17:43] <te> Benkinooby: How is it getting messed up?  Describe what changes, (how much time it gets off by..)
[17:43] <DarkLobster> I get 'invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/xinetd not found' when running 'sudo apt-get install xinetd'. Anyone knows how to remedy? Or where I can read about it?
[17:43] <magma> jrib, why?
[17:44] <jrib> magma: because that's the policy.  The policy exists to make sure new bugs don't keep getting introduced
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> DarkLobster: perhaps its been converted to upstart
[17:44] <JoseeAntonioR> hey guys, how could I install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse? apt says it's got no installation candidate
[17:44] <magma> ok
[17:45] <Benkinooby> te the timeshift is quite random, it system time may be ahead or late, by minutes, or even serveral hours. it might be that i messed up somethng in the process of fixing it (i read about adjtime and that it notes my manual changes and will use them for future automated corrections...  but i am not sure if that mechanism is active or even causes my problems)
[17:45] <Benkinooby> te i used the commands date, hwclock and time-admin
[17:46] <te> Benkinooby: sudo hwclock  Says: ______________?
[17:46] <te> Benkinooby: compare to date
[17:46] <Benkinooby> te after i assured myself that the hwclock is correct, i used "hwclock --hctosys" to align the system time to the hw clock
[17:47] <Benkinooby> te 2012-08-02T19:47:31 CEST
[17:47] <Benkinooby> te this number is correct
[17:47] <ubuntulover> hii
[17:47] <Benkinooby> te i am in switzerland
[17:47] <Benkinooby> te my system time says 17:58
[17:47] <jflowersMTAP> does anyone know about a workaround to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/729979
[17:48] <te> Benkinooby: The only way they can become different is if you change system time after booting.
[17:48] <jflowersMTAP> sorry I meant this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1002641
[17:48] <te> Benkinooby: Oh I see.  So is your HW clock set to UTC?
[17:49] <te> Benkinooby: It is simplier to set the hardware clock to your local time.
[17:49] <Benkinooby> te i read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Multiple_Boot_Systems_Time_Conflicts
[17:49] <Benkinooby> te yes this is what i did
[17:49] <ubuntulover> hi, can anybody help mewith this problem? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11782321/connecting-multiple-usb-3g-modem
[17:49] <Benkinooby> te i set hwclock to local time (the output of hwclock confirms that)
[17:49] <te> Then how is it that your hardware clock is not correct?
[17:49] <subcool> ok, help- i am working on my gf's droidx, and i added a adb database. Since then i can no longer plug my samsung in and be recognized. The droid is seen, but the samsung isnt.
[17:50] <Benkinooby> te and i "informed" ubuntu that my hwcloch is local and not utc
[17:50] <te> Benkinooby: Wait... Is the hardware clock correct?
[17:50] <te> now....?
[17:50] <Benkinooby> te yes
[17:51] <Benkinooby> te it says 19:50:55
[17:51] <te> And the system time is in-correct?
[17:51] <Benkinooby> te and if i look at google "local time zurich" i get 7:50 pm
[17:51] <Benkinooby> te so everything is in line
[17:51] <Benkinooby> te hwclock-wise
[17:51] <Benkinooby> te the system time shows 18:02
[17:52] <Holos> Hi, I'm experiencing a bug that cauase power_saving to use massive amounts of CPU. https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42981 is this something that typically gets pushed into 12.0.4 LTS fairly quickly or am I going have a bad time?
[17:52] <dylan> Ubuntu doesn't see my battery
[17:52] <te> Benkinooby: See my pm
[17:52] <dylan> anything we can try?
[17:54] <dylan> Ubuntu doesnt see my toshiba p205 s7469 battery
[17:54] <ubuntulover> can anybody help mewith this problem? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11782321/connecting-multiple-usb-3g-modem
[17:54] <harry_> how do I restore to default sound and font theme on ubuntu 10.04
[17:54] <dylan> exit
[17:55] <subcool> ok, help- i am working on my gf's droidx, and i added a adb database. Since then i can no longer plug my samsung in and be recognized. The droid is seen, but the samsung isnt.
[17:55] <nakkor> trying to 'killall' in a shell script, but sometimes there is nothing to kill and it causes the script to exit because it things there is an error. Any ideas?
[17:56] <nakkor> Is there a way to wrap it so that it never returns an error?
[17:56] <gr33n7007h> nakkor, try #bash
[17:57] <nakkor> gr33n7007h: thanks
[17:57] <jflowersMTAP> anyone know how to configure second monitor with nvidia drivers. It just has a grey screen for me
[17:57] <jflowersMTAP> secondary screen*
[17:57] <Xienixs> How to create a distro for someone who has no access to the internet, thus all the applications should come with the installer..?
[17:57] <Holos> nakkor: killall | echo $?
[17:57] <MXi> How can I use both Python3.x and Python2.x on the sam machine? Will sudo apt-get install python3 work?
[17:57] <MXi> *same
[17:58] <bazhang> !remaster | Xienixs
[17:58] <Pici> MXi: yes
[17:58] <trism> Holos: it is already in the quantal kernel, and looking at: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/7/1/135 it is up for inclusion in a 3.2 stable update, so it will likely end up in the precise kernel (if it hasn't already I have checked)
[17:58] <Pici> MXi: then call it with python3
[17:58] <ubuntulover> Holos, Pici : can u help me with this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11782321/connecting-multiple-usb-3g-modem
[17:58] <nakkor> Holos: worked like a charm! Thanks!
[17:58] <Xienixs> wow thanks!
[17:58] <MXi> Pici: how do i tell a .py which to run with?
[17:59] <Xienixs> bazhang: Thanks to you of course ;)
[17:59] <Pici> MXi: set the proper path in the script's shebang line.
[17:59] <gr33n7007h> MXi, which python
[17:59] <gr33n7007h> or python file.py
[18:00] <MXi> thanks
[18:00] <nja> Hello
[18:00] <trism> Holos: that said, if it isn't and you really need it, might be work raising a bug about it
[18:01] <Holos> trism: new hex-core Dell R420 going into productio shortly and I log in today to find the CPU's at 90+%
[18:01] <Holos> and it just has the base install + openssh installed!
[18:03] <wolfbyte> te: Nothing!
[18:03] <trism> Holos: hmm, I see it in the precise.git, which kernel version are you on?
[18:05] <Holos> trism: 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP
[18:05] <PlatypusNAS> when browsing my network shares from a Windows 7 PC on the LAN, I can see my home folder, which I don't want... when I rightclick my home folder and view Sharing Options, the Share This Folder checkbox is not ticked... any ideas on how to make sure my home folder is not shared?
[18:06] <trism> Holos: found it, it is in the kernel in -proposed
[18:06] <trism> Holos: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed if you would like to test the kernel and see if it fixes the issue
[18:06] <nullucas> Hi. Is there any REAL disadvantage or problem in installing Ubuntu x86 in a 64bit machine, instead of the "theoretically" right version, that is x86-64??
[18:07] <trism> Holos: this is the version: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.2.0-29.46 for reference
[18:07] <AcidRain2012> i hate windows. when i tell it to print i picture, never did i say print it at what ever you want to print it at. i said print it at the damn actual size it is. and it refuses to. i hook it up to linux and it works perfect
[18:08] <ernie_> hello, is there a way to have window thumbnails labeled?
[18:08] <ernie_> at the moment in unity, clicking on a LibreWriter icon when there are multiple windows of it shows previews but aren't labeled
[18:08] <chuck_> windows spooler sucks..it always gets clogged up, and freezes
[18:08] <chuck_> lawl
[18:09] <Phiscribe> nullucas short answer, no.  might not be able to use loads of ram is one drawback
[18:10] <chuck_> ernie_: never really looked into thumbnails with labels
[18:10] <rhin0> on brasero if you drag to a data disk you drag over directories that are already there .. how can I get the brasero data are with icons
[18:11] <nullucas> Phiscribe, thanks. I'm reading some stuff about the difference at ubuntu.com, and they mention my worry: "Early 64-bit adopters were plagued by incompatibility problems (most noticeably Java and Flash), however most issues have now been resolved."
[18:11] <jbwiv> guys, I have a lot of problems with unity and keyboard shortcuts. some work, some don't. I have two questions: 1. is there a way to restore all shortcuts back to the default? unity --reset doesn't seem to have done it. and 2. how can one track down a conflict?
[18:11] <ernie_> chuck_: if i have a lot of windows open it gets hard to distinguish what's what if they're not labeled :S
[18:12] <lesshaste> I can't run libreoffice.. I get
[18:12] <lesshaste> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException'
[18:13] <chuck_> lesshaste: http://askubuntu.com/questions/159872/how-to-fix-basic-runtime-error-1-type-com-sun-star-uno-runtime-exception-mes
[18:14] <chuck_> lesshaste: do you have java 7 installed or 6?
[18:15] <ernie_> anyone know if window previews can display labels?
[18:16] <primenumber> morning all!
[18:16] <primenumber>  Quick question - I just installed web-apps-preview from the ppa on precise, but nothing is different. Do I need to start it up somehow?
[18:16] <chuck_> ernie_ where do these labels show at?
[18:16] <ernie_> chuck_: i'd expect labels to be layered on top of the previews
[18:17] <ernie_> chuck_: but it seems i'm supposed to squint at thumbnails to know which window is what document
[18:17] <chuck_> the documents dont have names below them featuring the file extension?
[18:18] <chuck_> primenumber: that is a new thing right? i though we had webapps for a while now.
[18:18] <ernie_> chuck_: I'm referring to the previews that show up when you have multiple windows of the same application... they aren't clearly labeled
[18:18] <chuck_> primenumber: webapps are just shortcuts to things via the webright?
[18:19] <primenumber> it's a new integration thing - gmail on the dash, notifications on the desktop etc
[18:19] <deniska> chuck_: and some sort of javascript api
[18:19] <hav0c> hello
[18:19] <ernie_> chuck_: so if i click on the LibreOffice Writer icon, I'll get a pretty preview of all the Writer windows, but they aren't clearly labeled
[18:19] <chuck_> primenumber: let me install it
[18:20] <primenumber> thanks!
[18:20] <Moogs> what are some good websites like makeuseof
[18:20] <primenumber> i got it from http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/07/install-and-preview-the-new-ubuntu-webapps-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[18:21] <primenumber> if it helps
[18:21] <chuck_> primenumber: i think i have seen it on some ubuntu news page. probaly omgubuntu.co.uk
[18:22] <osmosis> i dont get it. I deleted my files, unmounted immediately, but extundelete doesnt find anything at all.
[18:23] <ernie_> chuck_: unless I'm mistaken, i believe unlabeled previews are an overlooked usability issue.
[18:24] <DebolazW> osmosis: If the file was created very recently, it may not even have touched the disk.
[18:24] <osmosis> Debolaz, it was atleast a day old
[18:24] <chuck_> primenumber: apparently im seeing this unity-webapp as a chromium extension
[18:25] <chuck_> primenumber: http://askubuntu.com/questions/169282/how-to-manage-unity-webapps-chromium-extension-different-options
[18:25] <DebolazW> osmosis: Then you might just be unlucky. Undeleting files isn't an exact science since most filesystems aren't designed with it in mind.
[18:25] <chuck_> ernie_ as for managing the labels, im clueless
[18:25] <primenumber> Thanks, just readiong it...
[18:25] <osmosis> Debolaz, im doing --recover-all   and extundelete doesnt find a SINGLE FILE on my partition to undelete
[18:25] <osmosis> sorry for the caps
[18:26] <histo> osmosis: use testdisk
[18:26] <histo> osmosis: the photorec portion of it more specifically
[18:26] <chuck_> osmosis: so you are saying that when you delete a file it still stays on there?
[18:26] <osmosis> histo, so i ran the testdisk photorec...and it recovers 100G of files, all misnamed, and not finding my files in the grep.
[18:26] <primenumber> would it still work if Im using chrome?
[18:27] <primenumber> i guess not
[18:27] <chuck_> primenumber: i would check your chrome extensions
[18:27] <osmosis> chuck_, i just dont get how if I deleted some files, and then didnt run a single command after that, shutdown the server immediately...why those files wouldnt be recoverable
[18:27] <primenumber> 10-4 thanks for the help!
[18:27] <chuck_> osmosis: ah so you need them back
[18:28] <osmosis> chuck_, all my python code for the last 2 weeks...im gonna have to rewrite it
[18:29] <chuck_> osmosis: let me see what i can find on file recovery
[18:29] <lesshaste> chuck_: how do I check?
[18:29] <osmosis> chuck_, i am open to any suggestions
[18:29] <tsinnema> hello! -- i'm puzzled by some env command behavior. the variables i set seem to be ignored in some usages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1125660/
[18:29] <lesshaste> chuck_: java -version
[18:29] <lesshaste> java version "1.6.0_24"
[18:30] <deniska> osmosis: try photorec
[18:30] <chuck_> lesshaste: i installed java 7, and everything here works
[18:30] <deniska> And next time backup your work
[18:30] <histo> osmosis: it may not be able to recover file names but it will pull your files
[18:30] <lesshaste> chuck_: ah.. how do I do that in lucid?
[18:30] <chuck_> lesshaste: you can get the java 7 ppa...let me get it for yah
[18:31] <lesshaste> thx
[18:31] <tsinnema> so might someone know why the abovementioned env behavior (with echo at least) happens?
[18:31] <chuck_> lesshaste http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[18:32] <jameson> I turn my server on today and it no longer accepts my passphrase to mount the system
[18:32] <osmosis> jameson, that sucks
[18:32] <jrib> tsinnema: #bash
[18:32] <tsinnema> oh, $FOO is evaluated by bash before env does anything?
[18:32] <chuck_> osmosis: http://www.smashingapps.com/2011/08/11/5-must-have-file-recovery-tools-for-linux-users.html
[18:32] <jameson> can someone please help me
[18:33] <lesshaste> chuck_: thx
[18:33] <osmosis> jameson, keep trying
[18:33] <DebolazW> jameson: See if you can mount it from a live CD.
[18:33] <osmosis> jameson, you can do it!
[18:33] <tsinnema> nvm derp, thanks for listening :)
[18:33] <jameson> live cd also denies passphrase
[18:33] <theadmin> So I was installing Flash (via flashplugin-installer) and my connection went meh during doing so. I removed the package, but now at every boot I get a notification saying "data for flashplugin-installer failed to download, please reinstall the package" or something. How to fix?
[18:33] <chuck_> theadmin: did you do a purge when you removed it?
[18:34] <theadmin> chuck_: Doh...
[18:34] <jameson> I'm really disappointed that it takes losing all my files to realize just how unreliable ubuntu is as an OS
[18:34] <theadmin> chuck_: Sorry, not used to APT
[18:34] <InShaDan> hi there. I just looking for support with my new ubuntu installation. Who can help?
[18:34] <chuck_> theadmin: try that out
[18:34] <theadmin> chuck_: Will do
[18:34] <theadmin> InShaDan: Anyone here who knows anything about your issue will likely try to help.
[18:34] <rypervenche> jameson: How did you lose your files?
[18:35] <chuck_> jameson: never had that problem other then actually forgetting my passphrase
[18:35] <iDulys> Hello
[18:35] <jameson> rypervenche: the file system won't load
[18:35] <jameson> it's encrypted
[18:35] <jameson> it won't accept passphrase
[18:35] <DebolazW> jameson: Whatever caused the issue wouldn't be any different on any other Linux distribution.
[18:35] <jameson> DebolazW: I google the problem it is unique to ubuntu
[18:35] <jameson> it autoupdated and boom no longer decrypts
[18:35] <rypervenche> jameson: lol, that definitely makes Ubuntu a bad OS, lol.
[18:35] <jameson> rypervenche: yeah it makes it a miserable os
[18:36] <rypervenche> jameson: You had the entire drive encrypted?
[18:36] <jameson> yep
[18:36] <jameson> and now I lose everything
[18:36] <lesshaste> chuck_: didn't fix it!
[18:36] <rypervenche> jameson: I don't see how you would lose everything.
[18:36] <InShaDan> Thank. I just installed the ubuntu version with the windows installer beside my current windows 7 x64 Installation. But when I start the system only ubutu comes up. No Windows Boot manager or gub
[18:36] <chuck_> lesshaste: hmm
[18:36] <DebolazW> jameson: If the livecd won't decrypt it, the reason can't be that the software on your machine no longer supports decrypting the filesystem, so an update can't have caused it.
[18:36] <rypervenche> jameson: Have you tried mounting the drive on a livecd?
[18:37] <jameson> the livecd prompt to decrypt it also yields nothing
[18:37] <rypervenche> jameson: Try doing it manually.
[18:37] <jameson> Intel AES-NI instructions error <- i get this though
[18:37] <daze> anybody running 32-bit version of Ubuntu 12.04?
[18:37] <jameson> rypervenche: thanks will try I'm sorry I'm just very frustrated and at the point of tears
[18:37] <chuck_> lesshaste: which version do you have?
[18:37] <Guest15796> yeah
[18:37] <rypervenche> jameson: cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda2 LUKS
[18:37] <rypervenche> jameson: Change the /dev/sda2 to whatever the drive is.
[18:38] <lesshaste> chuck_: java -version
[18:38] <lesshaste> java version "1.7.0_05"
[18:38] <Guest15796> Running 32 bit version of ubuntu 12.04
[18:38] <jameson> rypervenche: k bbiab thank you
[18:38] <DebolazW> jameson: If that's the error you're getting, it sounds like a hardware problem.
[18:38] <chuck_> lesshaste: i mean libreoffice
[18:38] <rypervenche> jameson: Then mount that
[18:38] <rypervenche> jameson: mount /dev/mapper/LUKS /mnt
[18:38] <jameson> thank you I will tell you my results in a bit
[18:38] <rypervenche> jameson: Hop on IRC while on the livecd
[18:38] <daze> anybody running 32-bit version of Ubuntu 12.04? I need to convert a rpm package to deb and alien doesn't let me do it on 64-bit system :/   If anybody would be so kind as to run a few commands: wget http://www.lacie.com/download/drivers/LaCie%20LightScribe%20Labeler%201.0%20Linux.rpm && mv "LaCie LightScribe Labeler 1.0 Linux.rpm" lacie_4l.rpm && sudo alien lacie_4l.rpm  and upload the .deb somewhere....
[18:39] <lesshaste> chuck_: jusat upgrading to 3.5.4 to see if it helps
[18:39] <repozitor> eclipse use makefile to compile .c and .cpp file
[18:39] <repozitor> i want to add path to this makefile
[18:39] <repozitor> but i don't know how to add it
[18:39] <Guest15796> i think you have to install freshly on 64 bit
[18:40] <chuck_> daze: http://principialabs.com/lightscribe-on-ubuntu/
[18:40] <s_> hi could any1 help me with configuring emphathy for gmail. it wont connect
[18:40] <daze> I'll force install the .deb, as I already installed the 32-bit libraries. Internet says it'll all be ok :]
[18:40] <chuck_> lesshaste: yeah i  am running the latest, also with java 7 and it's loading fine for me.
[18:40] <chuck_> lesshaste: im in ubuntu 12.04 64bit
[18:41] <marco_mesquita_> daze: apart from that, if the need to use an rpm arises again, there's an utility called 'alien' which converts from rpm to deb
[18:41] <daze> chuck_: that suggests I install the '1.0-r6' version. I suppose the rpm (1.0) is newer?
[18:41] <chuck_> daze: i would look for a lacie ppa
[18:41] <chuck_> daze: that way you are always up to date
[18:41] <s_> no1 can help?
[18:41] <daze> marco_mesquita_: yeah, but alien does not let me convert a 32-bit package on a 64-bit system. So that's why I need help from a person running 32-bit..
[18:42] <Guest15796> ubuntu 12.04 running very well on any sort of machine
[18:42] <daze> chuck_: yeah, no luck there :/
[18:42] <marco_mesquita_> hmmm
[18:42] <Guest15796> but on the old machine
[18:42] <Guest15796> some problem with video card
[18:42] <daze> so, anybody kind enough to run
[18:42] <daze> wget http://www.lacie.com/download/drivers/LaCie%20LightScribe%20Labeler%201.0%20Linux.rpm && mv "LaCie LightScribe Labeler 1.0 Linux.rpm" lacie_4l.rpm && sudo alien lacie_4l.rpm
[18:42] <daze> ?
[18:43] <chuck_> daze: http://www.lacie.com/support/index.htm?id=10011
[18:43] <daze> this will download the rpm, rename it (as alien does not like spaces) and convert it to .deb
[18:43] <chuck_> daze: eh ...rpms
[18:43] <daze> chuck_: that provides the .rpm version I'm referencing. No .deb there..
[18:44] <DanielL> Hellp, I represent PenTest Magazine. If any of u guys know anything about security testing and would like to be published in world wide IT magazine please contact me.
[18:44] <SailingPariah> I do: shell> python foo.py & if script succeeds bar.svg
[18:44] <osmosis> chuck_, it seems that because I deleted a whole directory with files in it...that is why i cant easily get it back. Only individual files can be easily recovered..if you delete the tree, ..yah.
[18:44] <SailingPariah> How do i do that+
[18:45] <ubuntu-studio> huuhuuuu
[18:45] <chuck_> daze: this forum is old..but http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=809112
[18:46] <s_> chuck: hi do u know anything about configuring empathy? i cant connect gmail :(
[18:46] <daze> chuck_: yeah, it also works with the old (?) 1.0-r6 version
[18:46] <chuck_> daze: also http://www.ubuntugeek.com/installing-lightscribe-simple-labeler.html
[18:46] <rava> can someone help me out with getting the ascli package out of the awstools ppa?
[18:46] <paco1> hello masters
[18:46] <rava> on natty?
[18:46] <rava> all the other packages show up for it, iamcli, rdscli, ec2-api-tools, etc.. only one missing is ascli
[18:46] <MoleMan> what do I need to do to get a symlink to a folder to work properly? it is currently refusing to acknowlege it is a folder and list from it... the command I'm using is 'ln -s Dropbox/schematics/ MC-Chocobo/plugins/WorldEdit/schematics'
[18:46] <chuck_> s_: let me take a look..i normally use thunderbird, cause it's way easy
[18:46] <paco1> i would like to configure a ipv6 network, for that, i would like to know how can i say (in my 10.04 and 12.04 ubuntu servers) if i have the IPv6 support enable or disable on OpenLDAP?
[18:48] <chuck_> Moleman: do you have a destination folder?
[18:49] <MoleMan> chuck_: yeah, there is a space before the begining of 'MC-Cocobo'
[18:49] <MoleMan> or am I mis-understanding?
[18:49] <Thomas_> Hello!
[18:49] <ziggy> hello
[18:49] <Thomas_> I'm encountering some trouble with ubuntu installation
[18:50] <ziggy> what kind of trouble
[18:50] <chuck_> Moleman: it's usually like "ln -s /home/user/text.txt /home/user/Desktop
[18:50] <chuck_> Moleman as for an example
[18:50] <MoleMan> chuck_: shouldn't it be possible to symlink a whole folder?
[18:51] <chuck_> Moleman: it might require more options..let me check
[18:51] <Thomas_> I have a free partition of 20 gigs to install ubuntu on. I'm installing ubuntu from the CD. I chose to install it alongside my other OS. There's is a slider now that I need to allocate space to in order to install ubuntu
[18:51] <Thomas_> Do I drag it left or right?
[18:51] <Thomas_> silly question, but I can't risk it
[18:51] <Thomas_> and why can't I use the whole partition?
[18:52] <MoleMan> chuck_: don't worry about it, not a clue why but its decided to work this time
[18:52] <schultza> what package is xmms in now?
[18:52] <MoleMan> chuck_: apparently giving it absolute locations rather than relative worked...
[18:52] <schultza> nvrmd
[18:52] <s_> chuck: yes i know what u mean. But i couldnt get my thunderbird to run in background, like empahty.
[18:52] <bazhang> !xmms | schultza
[18:52] <chuck_> schultza: wow it's old now. i would say audacious
[18:52] <chuck_> Moleman: ok bro
[18:52] <bazhang> schultza, install audacious. xmms2 is NOT what you want
[18:53] <ziggy> to the right i think there is a program that helps you load with windows
[18:53] <MoleMan> Thanks for the help
[18:53] <rava> does apt need me to pass -t for packages out of a ppa?
[18:53] <chuck_> schultza: yeah audacious is currently in the repository, and up to date
[18:53] <s_> chuck: i wish to run mail in background without open windows on my screen, just notice when new mail arraives like empathy has for msn and other stuff
[18:53] <hav0c_> hello
[18:53] <chuck_> schultza: it looks exactly the same as xmms
[18:53] <schultza> what's the differences (preferably neutral stance answers)?
[18:53] <chuck_> s_: you got gmail?
[18:54] <bazhang> schultza, install and see, dont poll here
[18:54] <schultza> im not polling... im asking a pro/con style question.. jeez
[18:54] <chuck_> schultza: they all pretty much do the same, audacious might have more features since it's up to date. but they all look like winamp
[18:54] <Galvatron> Thomas_	: Stay away from the built-in partationing tools, unless you want a data loss. Use Gparted instead, and than simply choode "Something else", to set the pre-created partitions.
[18:54] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install audacious schultza
[18:54] <chuck_> schultza
[18:54] <Thomas_> alright thanks
[18:55] <s_> chuck: yes
[18:55] <chuck_> schultza: at first audacious looks like a different media player...but you can get it to look like xmms or winamp by changing the skin
[18:55] <schultza> ok.. that's why i like winamp... is the smaller gui footprint
[18:56] <chuck_> s_: you can get a gmail app from the repository that stays in your system tray, and pops up with notifications on your desktop
[18:56] <Galvatron> Thomas_: Best split it in half, and give the other partition to the home directory
[18:56] <jameson> rypervenche: I'm in, I absolutely love you
[18:56] <chuck_> s_: just type in gmail in the ubuntu software centre
[18:56] <bsmith093> how can i find out what eating my swap space like the dod burns money?
[18:57] <bsmith093> its maxed out
[18:57] <jameson> all you guys thank you so much for you help, I was so scared I lost my server
[18:57] <s_> chuck: thanks <3, there so many apps for mail i must have missed it and couldnt figure out how to configure others to do that :)
[18:57] <daze> bsmith093: run system monitor and sort processes by memory used
[18:57] <schultza> same pro/con question for rythmbox vs audacity?
[18:58] <bsmith093> i did, and i killed the highest one, firefox but the swap hasnt been freed?
[18:58] <rypervenche> jameson: ^^ Not sure what may have caused that.
[18:58] <DanielL> chuck: hello, do u posses knowlage and expierience about security testing?
[18:58] <chuck_> schultza: rythmbox has ipod support. Looks different, and uses the buttons in the volume icon
[18:58] <jameson> rypervenche: there was a power outage possibly somthing got corrupted
[18:59] <deniska> I like exaile's interface
[18:59] <rypervenche> jameson: Ahh, that could do it. I recommend you backup your headers.
[18:59] <chuck_> DanielL: not one of my strong areas at this moment
[18:59] <schultza> thanks
[18:59] <deniska> It is just my opinion (:
[18:59] <jameson> rypervenche: I'm backing up first thing :) and thank you once again
[19:00] <rypervenche> JamesJRH: cryptsetup luksHeaderBackup <device> --header-backup-file <file>
[19:00] <chuck_> smoke break..brb
[19:00] <bsmith093> how do i free up swap space, memory is only half used, but swap is mearly full?
[19:00] <DanielL> chuck: i represent IT magazine called PenTest and we are looking for people with knowlage in this theme that would like to be published in next issue. Do u maybe know some one who would like to write article or place where we could find such people?
[19:01] <bazhang> DanielL, #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:02] <IdleOne> DanielL: there is also a #ubuntu-news
[19:02] <DanielL> Thanks :)
[19:03] <schultza> audacity is an audio editor
[19:04] <docum3nt> good ebening
[19:04] <docum3nt> oops evening
[19:04] <killmaker> when i use the vmplayer and use it for ubuntu it says no os foumd
[19:04] <docum3nt> i'm interested in installing ubuntu on my new galaxy note
[19:04] <chuck_> im back
[19:04] <docum3nt> i thought there was an ubuntu.com installer page but i can't find it
[19:04] <killmaker> what do i do
[19:05] <ziggy> wel;;l
[19:05] <bazhang> schultza, we said audacious, not audacity
[19:06] <ziggy> there is one on ubuntu.com
[19:06] <chuck_> schultza: audacity is for editing sound files
[19:06] <chuck_> schultza: also multitrack recording
[19:06] <docum3nt> all i can find on ubuntu.com is the devices page which is a blurb for manufacturers -- no installer link
[19:07] <ziggy> ubuntu.com/downloads
[19:08] <chuck_> docum3nt: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1394709
[19:08] <docum3nt> no sign of ubuntu for android there
[19:08] <dwarder> my vnc client can't connect to my box untill i login on it? is it possible to do so that i could vnc before login (screen where you chose a user and enter the password)
[19:08] <powahh> testing
[19:08] <docum3nt> chuck: yes I found that but the note needs to be rooted first
[19:08] <dwarder> powahh: works
[19:09] <docum3nt> i could have sworn i saw an announcement from ubuntu that they had an installer that didn't need the device rooting first
[19:09] <powahh> Hey, I've kernel 3.5.0-7 and I'm having problems with my gt 540m and intel graphics card, and it's like this: http://postimage.org/image/k0c9lxjvl/
[19:09] <powahh> see the details in the letters
[19:09] <powahh> there's like litle black dots on it
[19:09] <chuck_> docum3nt: http://www.thespicygadgematics.com/2012/04/root-samsung-galaxy-note-using-windows.html
[19:10] <powahh> click on the image to zoom in
[19:10] <soccio> Hello Everybody. I've got a problem with Shotwell. Neither Flickr nor Picasaweb is appearing in the export window, even though the plugins are activated. Do you know how solve this?
[19:11] <docum3nt> chuck: thanks; i can root it ok, i just thought there was an official ubuntu installer that obviated rooting it
[19:11] <naomi_> whats the command to upgrade through terminal?
[19:11] <chuck_> powahh: ive never had a intel card with proper 3d acceleration support. i do know that Valve Software (people who make steam) are currently helping out intel on improving their drivers
[19:11] <powahh> naomi_: sudo update-manager -d
[19:11] <Pecker> naomi_: upgrade what? pacakges?
[19:11] <Pecker> if so sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:11] <bazhang> powahh, thats not correct
[19:12] <naomi_> i haven't used this laptop in years and i've just turned it on, it's running lucid lynx and compiz etc don't work anymore. need to upgrade.
[19:12] <powahh> bazhang: dude
[19:12] <naomi_> but it's freezing and not letting me.
[19:12] <powahh> then try getting it on the sun
[19:12] <Pecker> oh upgrade distro version?
[19:12] <naomi_> yess.
[19:12] <bazhang> !behelpful | powahh
[19:12] <chuck_> naomi_: fresh distro install may be a thought
[19:12] <powahh> bazhang: sorry
[19:12] <ziggy> oh well you didnt say for android
[19:12] <docum3nt> ok many thanks have a good evening
[19:13] <Pecker> yeah what chuck_ said
[19:13] <hav0c_> hello again
[19:13] <powahh> bah no one gets the answers for me
[19:13] <powahh> bye
[19:13] <Pecker> for vsftpd is there a way to setup a certain user to go to a certain directory that isnt their home
[19:13] <naomi_> i dual boot, i only have linux on wubi. and my windows is completely messed up.
[19:14] <naomi_> i haven't used ubuntu in years and i feel like a noob again. :(
[19:14] <chuck_> naomi_ messed up windows sounds like an even more excellent reason to just wipe it and fresh install
[19:14] <Jack021> Hi
[19:15] <Jack021> Can someone help help me, I have ubuntu 12.04 and my iMac's display cannot dim in settings
[19:15] <csharp> naomi_: if windows *and* ubuntu are not functioning correctly, that may point to a hardware problem... have you ruled out that possibility?
[19:15] <Jack021> I have, Dimming works on my Mac Partition
[19:15] <Pecker> csharp: id thik that would depens on what exactly isnt working
[19:15] <naomi_> but i'm trying to fix my windows, i still want to be able to dual boot. & it's not a hardware problem.
[19:16] <naomi_> it's just being a temperamental bitch. >.>
[19:16] <chuck_> naomi_ i really dont have alot of experience with windows
[19:16] <naomi_> anyway err whats the command to upgrade to latest distro? natty is it?
[19:16] <csharp> naomi_: understood
[19:16] <Pecker> latest is precise
[19:16] <Pecker> natty was a year ago
[19:16] <naomi_> christ.
[19:17] <naomi_> i've been away far too long
[19:17] <Pecker> lol yeah
[19:17] <Pecker> i still sue lucid
[19:17] <Pecker> er use
[19:17] <chuck_> Jack021: does your imac have a specially key on it that you hold while you press another button to adjust brightness?
[19:17] <Pecker> anyways i remember the terminal command as sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:17] <naomi_> i don't mind lucid it just won't work properly anymore, i'd love to bounce this laptop off the wall and just get a new one.
[19:17] <naomi_> okie, thanks.
[19:18] <Pecker> as far far as update maanger i forget
[19:18] <bazhang> Pecker, dist-upgrade is something else
[19:18] <Pecker> have fun with precise though
[19:18] <Galvatron> Jack021: Try adding acpi=force to GRUB
[19:18] <Pecker> your laptop may not like unity if it hates lucid compiz
[19:18] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | Pecker
[19:18] <Pecker> gost darnit
[19:18] <Pecker> !upgrade | naomi_
[19:18] <Pecker> knew there was a !trigger somewhere
[19:18] <bazhang> naomi_, please read those links^
[19:19] <naomi_> will do, thanks.
[19:19] <dwarder> my vnc client can't connect to my box untill i login on it? is it possible to do so that i could vnc before login (screen where you chose a user and enter the password)
[19:19] <chuck_> naomi_: upgrading can be tricky. specially from a few recent versions to the latest
[19:19] <Pecker> yeah id reinstall
[19:20] <dwarder> it meant that i have to go to my box and login there and then i'm able to connect vnc remotely to that box
[19:20] <Pecker> does wubi installs supprot upgrading though?
[19:20] <dwarder> means*
[19:20] <chuck_> dwarder: i hardly use vnc. now days i run teamviewer
[19:20] <Pecker> dwarder: how the default vnc wrks is it has no clue what user to log you into until it is logged in on the box
[19:20] <chuck_> Pecker: i have never messed with wubi..no idea man
[19:20] <Pecker> i think you need another vnc server on the ubuntu boxc
[19:21] <naomi_> my update manager won't work, it freezes along with compiz thats why i wanted the terminal command.
[19:21] <chuck_> dwarder: i know i always used krfb for my vnc
[19:21] <naomi_> i don't even know how to fresh install within wubi seeing as my windows is effing up.
[19:21] <dwarder> Pecker: also i can set an autologin
[19:21] <dwarder> chuck_: thanks
[19:22] <J3f> i need install driver intel vga control
[19:22] <J3f> and i cant
[19:22] <L3top> naomi_: My advice? Don't use wubi.
[19:22] <chuck_> naomi_ maybe it's time to just re-install windows
[19:22] <subz3r0> yup, stay away from wubi :)
[19:22] <J3f> any can help me pls
[19:23] <Pecker> yeah dotn use wubi
[19:23] <naomi_> hmm. this is all too overwhelming i haven't been near a laptop or functioning computer in over a year and a half. D:
[19:23] <Pecker> its a pain to use
[19:23] <L3top> J3f: the intel video driver is part of the default install. What specifically is the problem, or what are you trying to do that you cannot?
[19:23] <chuck_> naomi_ you could just run windows, and install virtualbox, and install linux in that.
[19:23] <r3dLunchb0x_> anyone successfully setup up email alerts with nagios on ubuntu server 11.04? I have an issue where the email gets sent BUT it is using the wrong host name. I have checked all config files for nagios that even mention the host name and still it sends as wrong hostname.
[19:23] <Pecker> J3f: state question otherwise we cant help
[19:23] <cipri> which of you know the romanian's ubuntu channel?
[19:24] <bazhang> !ro | cipri
[19:24] <subz3r0> #ubuntu-ro
[19:24] <Pecker> !channels
[19:24] <cipri> thanks
[19:24] <J3f> i am not use Hardware to video, and i cant activate unity 3d
[19:24] <J3f> now have 3d
[19:24] <J3f> 2d+
[19:24] <lesshaste> chuck_: upgrading worked..thanks
[19:24] <chuck_> lesshaste: anytime :)
[19:24] <bazhang> j3f which card, and keep it on ONE line please
[19:25] <lesshaste> my next challenge is to convert a pdf presentation to powerpoint :)
[19:25] <L3top> J3f: sudo apt-get install i965-va-driver
[19:25] <J3f> intel VGA N10 c
[19:25] <chuck_> lesshaste: lol good luck
[19:25] <lesshaste> thanks.. I was vainly hoping libreoffice would do it for me
[19:25] <hav0c_> did 12.04 lts works fine to acer aspire ???
[19:25] <J3f> k im trying
[19:25] <hav0c_> laptop
[19:25] <chuck_> j3f: not sure how well intel's drivers are with 3d acceleration, but i think Mesa is used for that with an intel right?
[19:26] <L3top> !info i965-va-driver | chuck yes mesa is used, but this is a new bit of sorcery... works quite well.
[19:26] <chuck_> Hav0c_ what laptop model? depends on the hardware installed
[19:27] <brennan> i tried to open gnome ppp and it wouldnt open the modem... i read the log and it said there is no such file or directory in /dev/modem?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[19:27] <hav0c_> acer aspire sir chuck with video card nvidia geforce gt540m
[19:27] <brennan> anyone know what i should do?
[19:27] <J3f> k ready, now restart?
[19:27] <chuck_> J3f: i think in the future intel will have some better 3d acceleration
[19:28] <chuck_> hav0c_: well the video card should have no problem
[19:28] <L3top> J3f: should just need to logout and back in
[19:28] <J3f> i have integral video
[19:28] <J3f> k brb
[19:29] <chuck_> one thing ive never understood in linux is how to activate video shared memory. such as on my laptop, it's naturally 256mb, but up to 1.4gig via shared memory
[19:29] <chuck_> how does that shared memory actually kick in?
[19:30] <lesshaste> how do I find libreoffice-pdfimport  ?
[19:30] <lesshaste> apt-get install says it doesn't exist
[19:30] <L3top> I expect that is part of the module function chuck_
[19:30] <brennan> can someone help me?
[19:30] <chuck_> lesshaste: you are trying to convert pdf to presenter?
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> brennan  start with a question
[19:30] <lesshaste> chuck_: yes
[19:30] <chuck_> lesshaste or just open a pdf file
[19:30] <brennan> i tried to open gnome ppp and it wouldnt open the modem... i read the log and it said there is no such file or directory in /dev/modem?
[19:31] <lesshaste> chuck_: it just shows some lines of the pdf source.. as if you did cat
[19:31] <brennan> MonkeyDust, ^
[19:31] <chuck_> lesshaste: http://www.libreoffice.org/features/extensions/
[19:31] <L3top> !info libreoffice-pdfimport | works for me lesshaste
[19:32] <chuck_> brennan: is this modem supported in your version of linux?
[19:32] <subcool> i need help with my samsung. while fixing my gf's droidx, the computer no longer see's my samsung. it sees it in lsusb, but it wont make it available for mounting
[19:32] <lesshaste> chuck_: must be in a different repository
[19:32] <chuck_> subcool: ah a mounting problem...should be easy
[19:32] <subcool> this only happened after editing my udev
[19:32] <schultza> has anyone got the rhythmbox pandora plugin working?
[19:32] <brennan> ya i think so it was supported in lubuntu MonkeyDust
[19:33] <chuckharmston> chuck_: you're really throwing my IRC notifs for a loop ;)
[19:33] <chuck_> haha
[19:33] <J3f> im here xd and noting xd
[19:34] <L3top> J3f: You are going to have to work on being clearer.
[19:34] <chuck_> subcool: have you gone into the phones sd card & phone storage in settings and clicked on mass storage only?
[19:35] <brennan> chuck ya i think it is it was supported in lubuntu
[19:35] <L3top> lesshaste: it is in universe
[19:35] <brennan> chuck_ ya i think it is it was supported in lubuntu
[19:35] <chuck_> chuck_ ah lol
[19:35] <lesshaste> L3top: thanks
[19:37] <chuck_> brennan: does it show up in lspci?
[19:38] <brennan> chuck_, no it wont
[19:38] <brennan> i tried to open gnome ppp and it wouldnt open the modem... i read the log and it said there is no such file or directory in /dev/modem?
[19:38] <subcool> chuck_, uh...? no?
[19:38] <subcool> chuck_, the phone requests what i want when i plug it in- i select mount for storage..
[19:38] <lesshaste> L3top: not for lucid though right?
[19:38] <subcool> it use to work, until i edited udev.
[19:39] <L3top> one second lesshaste.
[19:39] <chuck_> subcool: oh i see..let me check
[19:39] <lesshaste> L3top: thanks
[19:40] <chuck_> subcool: you gotta add rules to udev..ive had to do this before
[19:40] <L3top> !info openoffice.org-pdfimport lucid | lesshaste
[19:40] <lesshaste> L3top: is that the same as for libreoffice?
[19:40] <lesshaste> !info libreoffice-pdfimport lucid
[19:40] <chuck_> subcool: http://forums.androidcentral.com/linux/57132-how-set-up-udev-rules-ubuntu-10-10-a.html
[19:41] <L3top> well... no... as libreoffice doesnt exist for lucid... lesshaste
[19:41] <lesshaste> L3top: well it does :) but in a ppa
[19:42] <lesshaste> L3top: http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu
[19:43] <lesshaste> L3top: looks like they just didn't package it? https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa
[19:45] <subcool> damn- he left.
[19:45] <subcool> o
[19:45] <subcool> ok.. that didnt work
[19:49] <subcool> service udev restart
[19:49] <subcool> restart: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.136" (uid=1000 pid=8618 comm="restart) interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Restart" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init"))
[19:49] <lesshaste> L3top: any idea if it is possible to get pdfimport for lucid?
[19:51] <u1204> hello, does anybody know a good tutorial about how to establish a VPN connection in a public Wifi network?
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> !vpn
[19:54] <u1204> thank you, ubottu
[19:54] <trueneu> Would anyone care to suggest a good module for 'Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030 (rev 34)' wifi card?
[19:54] <trueneu> Because the stock one is killing me.
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> trueneu  have you viited the ubuntu wifi pages?
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> visited*
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> trueneu: it's in the default install, you just need to disable n speed
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> trueneu: do you dual boot?
[19:55] <trueneu> Not yet to be honest, MonkeyDust. Didn't know they exist.
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> !wifi
[19:56] <anonymous_> .hgtfrde
[19:56] <trueneu> ActionParsnip, something like iwconfig wlan0 modu <> , you mean?
[19:56] <maplesoft> how to know which applications are taking how much internet speed?
[19:56] <trueneu> Thanks a lot, MonkeyDust.
[19:56] <maplesoft> how to know which applications are taking how much internet speed individually?
[19:57] <subcool> Help please- Udev...
[19:58] <subcool> i know its easy- but im messing it up..
[19:59] <Chris___> I'm trying to add a .xml file as a wallpaper, but when I go to Appearance > Add, it doesn't allow me to change the filetype it's looking for to anything non image file extension'ed
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> trueneu: do you dual boot?
[20:00] <trueneu> ActionParsnip, yup I do.
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> trueneu: then in Windows disable the devices ability to wake up the OS as well as disable power management
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> trueneu: trueneu those chips also have a hard time with n speed wifi, so you may need to disable that if the link keeps dropping off
[20:01] <trueneu> Erm, my second OS is not Windows. I think I can disable those from BIOS.
[20:01] <ozzloy> i'm trying to recover my svn pw.  i can use svn to checkout, but git svn clone asks for a pw.  i found the file that stores the svn pw, but it says it's in gnome-keyring.  i looked into seahorse and i don't see anything about svn keys.  is there another place to look for gnome-keyring keys?
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> trueneu: there is no 'second OS', you just dual boot
[20:01] <ozzloy> ideally, i'd know my svn pw, but i haven't used it in about a year
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> trueneu: boot to windows and you can do it in device manager
[20:02] <trueneu> Let's say I don't boot into Windows. I have no Windows installed.
[20:02] <trueneu> So I can't boot into it as it's not my second OS. =)
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> trueneu: then try running: echo "options iwlagn 11n_disable50=1 11n_disable=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwlagn.conf > /dev/null
[20:03] <trueneu> I'll try to disable n modulation then, thanks.
[20:03] <trueneu> Uh-huh, thanks a lot.
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> trueneu: you may also need to run:  echo "iwlagn" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules > /dev/null
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> trueneu: makes the driver load
[20:04] <trueneu> I will, thanks.
[20:04] <djzn> question about unity: what does it mean an ARROW on the right side of the icon
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> djzn: means its running more than one instance, if memory serves...
[20:05] <chilito_24> hool
[20:06] <chilito_24> como estannn
[20:06] <bazhang> !es | chilito_24
[20:06] <maplesoft> how to know which applications are taking how much internet speed individually?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> maplesoft: ntop
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> !info ntop
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> ntop is amazing in its feztureset. ;)
[20:07] <djzn> ActionParsnip, but not more than ONE window, right ?
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> djzn: huh?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> djzn: not 100% as I'm not at home now, sorry
[20:09] <djzn> Dr_Willis, hi bruce..lol
[20:10] <djzn> Dr_Willis, i was asking if the right arrow in the unity launcher icon means more than one window open or just another memory instance
[20:10] <djzn> i means I closed the app and reopened fast?
[20:10] <maplesoft> ActionParsnip sure for individual apps?
[20:10] <Pici> maplesoft, ActionParsnip: ntop won't display per process. nethogs is better for that.
[20:11] <maplesoft> Pici what about ipaudit?
[20:12] <maplesoft> Pici nethogs will show for individual apps?
[20:12] <Pici> maplesoft: I've never used ipaudit, and yes.
[20:12] <maplesoft> Pici ok
[20:14] <maplesoft> sudo apt-get remove packeg  sometimes keeps some traces of that package.     how to completely remove a package removing all traces?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> maplesoft: it shows it per process, which should match to per apps
[20:14] <djzn> any ideas why netbeans 7.0.1 was preferred over 7.2 on LTS
[20:14] <pb> Need to run the Purge action
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> maplesoft: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> purge will not touch configs in the users home dir.. ;)
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> just to be clear
[20:15] <maplesoft> pb ActionParsnip      a smiple ap-get purge package will also be equivalent to    apt-get --purge remove packagename?
[20:15] <Pici> ActionParsnip: ntop won't show per process. it will show per protocol.
[20:15] <zykotick9> maplesoft: "sudo apt-get purge foo" is shorter ;)
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> maplesoft: if you run:  dpkg -l | grep '^rc'      you can remove those packages as they have residual configs installed
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Pici: gah
[20:17] <pb> try it out..
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> maplesoft: if you run:  sudo -i    you can run:  dpkg -l | grep '^rc' | awk '{print $2}' | xargs dpkg --purge       and it will remove any packages marked as 'rc' instaead of 'ii'
[20:17] <pb> worst it will tell you is no
[20:18] <D77> Can someone direct me to information on redirecting sites. I have a Ubuntu Amahi server with apache installed that hosts a virtual Ubutnu turnkey server running wordpress. I would like to my physical server to redirect "domain.com" to the local IP of the virtual Ubuntu server"
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> D77: could add it in /etc/hosts
[20:20] <deneme> ?
[20:22] <D77> adding it in the hosts is like adding it to hosts on windows ? where from the local machine it knows where to go but what about for external users?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> D77: yes, its the same mechanism
[20:27] <D77> hrm. ok, will try it. based on what I know of windows hosts file this seems like it would not help for a external user out in the world. IE my router points to my physical server at .0.10 and my physical server hosts filepoints to my virtual hosted server at .0.5 and this works?
[20:29] <zykotick9> D77: hosts is NOT going to help with external systems, only the local one...
[20:30] <D77> zykotick9,: how would I acomplish this then? I have a web blog I host I want to run virtual off my ubuntu amahi server. So I need my router to point to 192.168.0.10 for port 80 and then .0.10 to forward the traffic based on header to 192.168.0.5
[20:32] <zykotick9> D77: sorry i'm not sure.  if you used a different port it would be easy enough...  i've used apaches virtualheaders (or whatever it's called) to have different sites based on names on the same system (but you want something else)
[20:33] <D77> I guess I could try and figure out how to port my turnkeylinux blog out of its server and into the physical one but man thats going to hurt
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> D77: could ask in ##networking they may have some ideas
[20:33] <D77> kk, thanks!
[20:35] <liquidee> hello
[20:39] <rhiol> Someone knows how remove switzerland https://www.eff.org/pages/switzerland-network-testing-tool from ubuntu please ? thanks
[20:40] <zykotick9> rhiol: was it installed from a DEB?
[20:40] <rhiol> no
[20:41] <NEONE> hello everybody, French server ?
[20:41] <zykotick9> !fr | NEONE
[20:41] <rhiol> from tgz
[20:42] <subcool> i need help with my samsung. while fixing my gf's droidx, the computer no longer see's my samsung. it sees it in lsusb, but it wont make it available for mounting
[20:43] <Seppoz> how much ram can normal ubuntu handle?
[20:43] <zykotick9> subcool: check "dmesg" output after plugging in
[20:43] <zykotick9> Seppoz: 32bit?  less then 4GB
[20:44] <dwarder> how do i find out which device is my sdcard?
[20:44] <rincewind> hello, I'm a little out of Google here, maybe sb can help: i want to play audio via upnp(dlna) on my av receiver. What I need is an application that has something like Win 7's 'play to' feature, so I can create a playlist on my laptop and play it on my av receiver. Any ideas?
[20:44] <dwarder> which /dev/***
[20:44] <Seppoz> that sucks
[20:44] <zykotick9> dwarder: dmesg is one way
[20:45] <Multbrelch> Hi all. Q: What means --------- ubuntu-12.04.2 ---------  Do we already have 12.04.2?
[20:45] <subz3r0> Seppoz, thats "normal"
[20:45] <Multbrelch> or is that coming at some time
[20:45] <Seppoz> i just hoped linux had some nasty tricks there
[20:45] <dwarder> zykotick9: what do i need to search for?
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> Multbrelch  12.04.1 will be released on august 23
[20:46] <dwarder> zykotick9: i mean, how do i find in all this messages
[20:46] <dwarder> zykotick9: grep something?
[20:46] <Multbrelch> Ah! Where can I find the release notes?
[20:46] <subz3r0> Seppoz, maybe you should read somewhere what the difference between 32 and 64bit is.
[20:46] <Multbrelch> MonkeyDust, ^
[20:46] <OerHeks> dwarder, usually a sd-card is mounted under /media/
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> Multbrelch  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[20:47] <subcool> zykotick9, http://pastebin.ca/2176938
[20:47] <dwarder> OerHeks: i need to find out which /dev/ it is?
[20:47] <dwarder> OerHeks: to use with dd
[20:48] <Multbrelch> thx MonkeyDust
[20:48] <dwarder> OerHeks: yes it is mounted
[20:49] <zykotick9> subcool: sdb looks to be having issues!?!  end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 30904192
[20:49] <OerHeks> dwarder, "df -h " tells you
[20:49] <Pecker> is there a way to fix upstart in 10.04
[20:49] <BluesKaj> rincewind, http://coherence.beebits.net/
[20:49] <Pecker> every time i try a /etc/init.d script it converts it to upstart job
[20:49] <Pecker> but then upstart errors out
[20:50] <dwarder> OerHeks: thanks
[20:51] <subcool> zykotick9, thanks- i over looked that.. - ok. SO ADB is hving a issue... i didnt have to do anything special for my Droidx- so do i have to create a profile?
[20:52] <zykotick9> subcool: i have no idea what you should do... sorry.  it's not like this usb-drive that you can just reformat.  good luck.
[20:52] <lloowen1> Hello all! Does anyone know how I can auto login to a specific user on boot up? I'm running ubuntu 10.04 minimal with blackbox window manager.
[20:52] <zykotick9> s/this usb-drive/this is a usb-drive/
[20:53] <subcool> zykotick9, ya- i gotcha thanks..
[20:53] <zykotick9> lloowen1: if you want autologin install a DM of some sort
[20:53] <amin_> ae,,
[20:53] <subcool> ill see what comes up
[20:53] <daniel110> hey i am installing ubuntu for the first time on my laptop. Can anyone explain me what is the swap partition?
[20:53] <bazhang> !swap | daniel110
[20:54] <lloowen1> zykotick9: What is a DM?
[20:54] <jilebedev> Hello, does anyone know how to detach a screen from gnome-terminal? CTRL-A,d doesn't work.
[20:54] <zykotick9> lloowen1: lightdm, gdm, kdm, xdm, slim, etc. ;)
[20:54] <daniel110> i am trying to dual boot window and ubuntu on my hp laptop. I now have 3 partions b/c i removed th recovery partion. Should i remove another to make room for the swap parition?
[20:55] <zykotick9> daniel110: with 3 partitions you could create an Extended partition - and thus have 2 logical inside, / and swap
[20:56] <lloowen1> zykotick9: I'm running this ubuntu 10.04 on  a thin client from a usb drive. I only have 128Mb RAM, so anything heavier than blackbox won't run.
[20:56] <daniel110> zykotic9: thanks is my first time installing linux, i am now on windows is there a tutorial i can follow
[20:56] <bazhang> !manual | daniel110
[20:56] <zykotick9> lloowen1: i have no suggestion then... good luck.  autologin is lame IMO.
[20:57] <zykotick9> !tab | daniel110
[20:57] <daniel110> i already know how to use linux i meant a tutorial to dual boot
[20:57] <daniel110> dealing with paritions etc
[20:57] <bazhang> !partition | daniel110
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> daniel110: install windows to a portion of the space, leave free space then just tell the ubuntu OS to use the free space
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> daniel110: ubuntu can read and write ntfs so you can store your user data on there and leave theconfig on your linux partitions
[20:59] <randomparticle> firefox has crashed and done something to the window server. the minimize/close etc buttons are gone and i can't input anything into a terminal
[20:59] <randomparticle> how can i restart the window server please?
[20:59] <zykotick9> randomparticle: restart compiz (or just restart)
[20:59] <daniel110> the problem is that i am installing ubuntu on an hp laptop but i already have 4 partitions taken
[20:59] <deneme> hi
[20:59] <randomparticle> this is lucid
[20:59] <randomparticle> and i have no access to terminal commands. the terminals aren't accepting keyboard input
[21:00] <zykotick9> randomparticle: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" should work (it will log you out!)
[21:00] <randomparticle> can't type sudo for reason mentioned above
[21:00] <zykotick9> randomparticle: reboot then
[21:00] <randomparticle> can't do that. i have important stuff still running
[21:00] <leafwiz> Hey, I have just installed ubuntu 12.04. It is on a bit of an older machine. Is there a way to get things to become more responsive ?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> randomparticle: sudo gives no visual keyboarrd when you use it, just type your pass and hit ENTER
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> leafwiz: use Unity2D session
[21:01] <randomparticle> i can't type the word "sudo" or any other word. again, for nth time, it's not accepting keyboard input
[21:01] <moes> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[21:01] <leafwiz> ActionParsnip: okay.
[21:01] <randomparticle> i can start up a terminal but the cursor is an odd shape and no input accepted
[21:01] <species_4981> processes are using lots of network traffic? I appear to be constantly sending 90+Mbps on eth0 but I think i should be sending nothing!
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> randomparticle: try running xterm
[21:02] <species_4981> how do I find which processes are using lots of network traffic? I appear to be constantly sending 90+Mbps on eth0 but I think i should be sending nothing!
[21:02] <biopyte> hi, i need an alternative shell (instead of bash) that performs simple decimal arithmetics
[21:02] <species_4981> (sorry - mistyped)
[21:02] <bazhang> !repeat | species_4981
[21:02] <randomparticle> how do i run xterm please?
[21:02] <biopyte> any idea?
[21:02] <randomparticle> Accessorites/Terminal is what i've been trying
[21:02] <biopyte> best would be a default package, already installed
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> biopyte: bc is a terminal calculator if that's what you mean?
[21:03] <biopyte> i know
[21:03] <biopyte> but what about an alternative shell
[21:03] <randomparticle> is there any way of restarting gdm or whatever it is without using a keyboard? e.g., mouse only?
[21:03] <biopyte> ?
[21:03] <biopyte> zsh?
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> biopyte: why would a different shell make any difference?
[21:04] <zykotick9> randomparticle: have you tried "compiz --replace" or "metacity --replace"?
[21:04] <biopyte> because some shells have built-in decimal arithmetics
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> randomparticle: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1  is the keyboard responsive there?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: without keyboard ;)
[21:04] <randomparticle> will that kill any running processes in existing terminals?
[21:04] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i'm back to "reboot" then ;)
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> biopyte: zsh is pretty decent
[21:05] <randomparticle> i.e., will it kill X and any dependent processes?
[21:05] <biopyte> what was the name of that other shell used by ubuntu?
[21:05] <biopyte> it wasnt bash
[21:05] <biopyte> something else
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> biopyte: csh sh zsh bsh
[21:06] <biopyte> no, it was something else
[21:06] <biopyte> maybe i'm wrong
[21:07] <biopyte> sh
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> biopyte: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_command_shells
[21:07] <biopyte> but what is sh?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> biopyte: fill your boots
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> biopyte: its a command shell...
[21:07] <biopyte> which one
[21:07] <biopyte> ?
[21:07] <randomparticle> ok, managed to bring up a keyboard prefs program in hope of ressurrecting keyboard
[21:07] <biopyte> sh is a shell by itself
[21:07] <biopyte> ?
[21:07] <biopyte> ok
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> yes
[21:08] <randomparticle> but it's locked up and now it's covering some of the top left menu icons
[21:08] <biopyte> ok
[21:08] <randomparticle> so i've lost access to all that now
[21:08] <randomparticle> i still have access to icons top right
[21:08] <biopyte> does it have decimal arithmetics
[21:08] <biopyte> \?
[21:08] <randomparticle> is there anything i can do to rejig window server using those options?
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> randomparticle: press CTRL+ALT+F1 and log in there, then run:  kilall -u $USER    and it will kill all your user's preocesses and log you off.
[21:08] <rincewind> BluesKaj, Thanks, I'll have a look
[21:09] <randomparticle> how many times do i have to tell you: it does not work
[21:09] <randomparticle> no keyboard input is being accepted. got it
[21:09] <randomparticle> nothing at all
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> randomparticle: is it a USB keyboard?
[21:09] <randomparticle> it's a uk keyboard
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> biopyte: do you mean like this: http://linuxconfig.org/Bash_scripting_Tutorial#10-1-arithmetic-comparisons
[21:10] <randomparticle> usb, sorry
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> randomparticle: yes but how does it connect to the system?
[21:10] <randomparticle> and ubuntu is running in a VM
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> randomparticle: then all you had to say is 'yes, it's usb. i never asked the language did I'?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> randomparticle: try unplugging the keyboard and plugging it back in after a few seconds
[21:10] <randomparticle> i read it as "US". did apologize after. perhaps you missed that
[21:11] <randomparticle> it's not a keyboard only issue as buttons are missing from windows
[21:11] <biopyte> Action, ok i give up, it always comes back to bc
[21:11] <biopyte> thanks
[21:11] <biopyte> good bye
[21:13] <user289584> hallo
[21:13] <sonkralice> hallo
[21:14] <user289584> Deutsche hier?
[21:14] <epinky> !de user289584
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> !de
[21:15] <zykotick9> epinky: !factoid | username
[21:15] <sonkralice> why i cant write?
[21:15] <epinky> zykotick9: yep, finger's fault
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> sonkralice: you can, and are
[21:16] <sonkralice> can you see my text?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> sonkralice: yes
[21:16] <epinky> sonkralice: no, I can't
[21:16] <sonkralice> ok thanks
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> I really have to wonder.. why do they have 'that dot grid' all over the  lightdm wallpapers...
[21:18] <sonkralice> how can I write privately? im new here.
[21:18] <subz3r0> sonkralice, /query name
[21:18] <sonkralice> ok thanks
[21:19] <smw_work> how can I list everything controlled by update-alternatives?
[21:19] <hydrox24> My Canon MP640 printer would happily print in 11.10, but in 12.04, with the same configuration and drivers, I can detect and add the printer, but when I print it just waits a few seconds and says that the job is complete without the printer even blinking an eye. Is someone able to point me toward a fix?
[21:19] <zykotick9> smw_work: "sudo update-alternatives --config <TAB><TAB>"
[21:20] <smw_work> zykotick9, "ruby" and "gem" are separate :-\
[21:20] <sonkralice> no query dont work
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> sonkralice:  then it depends on your IRC client
[21:20] <smw_work> zykotick9, I hope none of these others are related to ruby
[21:20] <rhiol> do you know this command "echo rm -rf /usr/local/lib/*/dist-packages/switzerland/ /usr/local/bin/{switzerland-{client,server},study-switzerland-pcaps,FastCollector}"
[21:21] <zykotick9> smw_work: neither are options on my system - so don't ask me ;)
[21:21] <sonkralice> i use xchat
[21:22] <bazhang> sonkralice, /msg nickname message
[21:22] <bazhang> sonkralice, ask first
[21:22] <epinky> !pm | sonkralice
[21:23] <sonkralice> bazhang ok msg work, very thanks.
[21:23] <ejackson> evening
[21:23] <acpi> how can i find out which kernel module is controling my keyboardbacklight?
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> xchat has a help guide/docs/site ; also...
[21:23] <sonkralice> !pm
[21:24] <brophat> someone help me out on what this guy is saying. I understand steps 1 and 2, but steps 3 and 4 seem a bit muddled, I think the authors native language is spanish.  http://davidcortijo.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/ubuntu-12-04-how-to-solve-the-wifi-interface-using-ralink-rt3090-card/
[21:24] <brophat> he seems to claim he has a fix for the rt3090 driver woes
[21:25] <brophat> but I did what I think he said but still my wifi has probs
[21:26] <rincewind> BluesKaj, how do I use it? aptitude install coherence worked, but executing coherence seems to start a server, so where do I go from here?
[21:26] <soa2ii> Hi. I just installed ubuntu 12.04 server and set up a system with around 700 LVs in one VG. Now if I reboot the system it just hangs with random udev commands. Any suggestions?
[21:27] <MrBeans> i love ubuntu
[21:27] <Domovoi> My problem is just like this http://superuser.com/questions/454857/setting-the-primary-graphics-adapter-screen-for-kernel-mode-setting ..... I have amd dual graphics enabled for gaming in windows,   but i dont need this setting in linux.  My problem is that I boot up any ubuntu and it goes black during that loading screen and then comes on perfect once x comes up,  also when i try to switch to console like alt f1 - f6 it does not work ..
[21:27] <Domovoi>   If i disabled the dual graphics in the bios it works ,  so i think what i need to do is tell the kernel to use my pciE graphics card and not my onboard.
[21:28] <Errare> Can anyone recommend any good free software where I can listen to podcasts and live music streams from the internet etc
[21:28] <epinky> brophat: does "sudo iwlist scan" show something?
[21:28] <brophat> epinky yes that was step 1, I got past that
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> Domovoi:  tried the 'text' mode Just to see if that works? it might be a framebuffer issue
[21:29] <Errare> I Just realized im in the wrong chat my bad... sorry >.> walks away slowly....
[21:29] <epinky> brophat: until what step you go through?
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> Errare:  'streamtuner' perhaps.. and i think most of the media players can do some sort of streams.
[21:29] <Domovoi> dr_willis what text mode ?
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> !text > Domovoi
[21:29] <hydrox24> how can I downgrade cups to a version that worked for me (I'm on 12.04)
[21:30] <Errare> Oh thanks Dr_WIllis. I just got this linux distro today... been tinkering learning stuff but I cant live without music too ^^ cheers
[21:30] <brophat> epinky i got past steps 1 & 2, and I think I also did steps 3 & 4, but the problem is I don't really know what he is saying in steps 3 & 4
[21:30] <zykotick9> hydrox24: downgrading is always a bad idea (and unsupported as well).  you'd probably be breaking a lot of dependencies by trying to add an old cups.
[21:30] <BluesKaj> rincewind, I assume you load your media or links to your media in the server playlist application
[21:31] <gvo> Have they released a 12.04 live cd that fixed the Broadcom network card problem yet?
[21:31] <brophat> epinky I think he is just saying click on the wifi showing in the network manager on the top bar
[21:31] <brophat> epinky see if you can understand what he is saying in those steps
[21:32] <hydrox24> zykotick9: but the only solution to my printer problem that I can find is one for gentoo which involves lots of patches and compiling and that scares me :(
[21:32] <rincewind> BluesKaj, I only installed coherence, is there some kind of playlist app for it/what's the command?
[21:32] <epinky> brophat: I think that he means that if you're able to achieve "sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off", then  you're good to go via Network Manager Applet to configure your wifi connection
[21:32] <Tex_Nick> Errare : try VLC it plays most video, audio & streams
[21:32] <agentgasmask> Hi all. Does anyone know what package glibc-header files are in?
[21:32] <brophat> epinky is Network Manager on the upper toolbar?
[21:33] <brophat> epinky like by the clock and the sound volume controls?
[21:33] <Errare> OK cheers, looking at them both now. Shame my distro don't have it preinstalled ah well :)
[21:33] <epinky> brophat: yep, an the icon is very eloquent
[21:33] <epinky> and the icon*
[21:34] <jancz> how do i add a user to sudoers in ubuntu 12.04?
[21:34] <brophat> epinky ok so I guess I have done what he says. so essentially all he is saying is do the command sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off it seems like no?
[21:34] <zykotick9> jancz: add the use to the "sudo" group
[21:34] <jancz> oh
[21:34] <jancz> it used to be 'wheel' i think
[21:34] <epinky> brophat: yeah, that's what I understood
[21:34] <jancz> thanks :p
[21:34] <zykotick9> jancz: it used to be 'admin' i know
[21:35] <zykotick9> jancz: wheel is to become root - not used in ubuntu ever (i think)
[21:35] <brophat> epinky yeah that is how I am reading it too. but oh well still I get slow speeds and sometimes dropped connections. Oh well
[21:36] <jancz> is there any way to add user to groups that other user is in?
[21:36] <jancz> like copy them
[21:36] <epinky> brophat: be careful since that command is valid just for the active session and it will not survive a reboot
[21:36] <epinky> brophat: try changing changing channel of the AP, maybe it's not your wireless card
[21:37] <brophat> epinky but I also followed his instructions about making the file /etc/pm/power.d/wireless
[21:37] <epinky> brophat: then you accomplished what he aims to accomplish
[21:38] <brophat> epinky change channel of AP means what?
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> Errare: i believe rhythmnbox can play podcasts etc, be sure toinstall ubuntu-restricted-extras and gnome-mplayer :)
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> jancz: sudo usermod -a -G sudo usernametoadd
[21:38] <jancz> zykotick9: i have added my user to sudo group, but the error still occurs
[21:39] <zykotick9> jancz: logged out/back in?
[21:39] <jancz> zykotick9: nope, doing that
[21:39] <jancz> zykotick9: brb
[21:39] <Errare> ActionParsnip:  Why install them? I'm using the backtrack 5 distro too
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Errare: backtrack isn't supported here
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Errare: ask ni #backtrack-linux
[21:40] <Errare> Its built upon ubuntu. I've also already got support. thanks though :)
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> we know whats its built on.. :)
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> Errare: none of the ubuntu based distros are supported here
[21:41] <Domovoi> dr_willis Ok i tried text mode and it went to black screen no video to my monitor,  I think it is trying to use my onboard.
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Errare: Ubuntu is based on Debian, but if we ask for Ubuntu support in #debian we'd will be pointed here
[21:41] <Errare> I see, fair enough. I was only after music software recommendations anyway.
[21:41] <Errare> Yep you're right.
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Errare: installing sound stuff on backtrack is dumb, its a network tool
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Errare: using it for your daily stuff is not the intended use of backtrack
[21:42] <Errare> I know what it is and I need music :P
[21:42] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: "backtrack is dumb" was more then enough ;)
[21:42]  * ActionParsnip shrug
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: true
[21:42]  * Dr_Willis was too nice to say that.
[21:42] <andrewx> How do I check disk drive integrity? is there a hdd scan utility
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> !fsck | andrewx
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> andrewx:  check the filesystems? or the smart info?
[21:42] <Errare> I don't believe I said what I used it for. Thanks for the concerns though.
[21:44] <andrewx> last boot said there were harddrive errors
[21:44] <zykotick9> andrewx: hard drive errors, or file system errors?  very different.
[21:44] <BluesKaj> epzil0n, did you get your m-audio 2496 card working , load the driver , sudo modprobe snd_ice1724
[21:45] <andrewx> errors with the harddrive
[21:45] <andrewx> words to that effect
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> andrewx: you cn fsck in liveCD, the ultimate boot cd has manufacturers tools of the main HDD manufacturers to test their hardware at a very low level
[21:45] <andrewx> I'll restart, see what I get again.
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> andy82: i'd run a full backup so when it finally dies you will have your user dat
[21:46] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: tabfail ;)  andrewx seems to be gone.
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> gah
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: cruddy work kb
[21:46] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i imagine it was 'cause they left?  (i don't have join/parts showing though)
[21:46] <Domovoi> My problem is just like this http://superuser.com/questions/454857/setting-the-primary-graphics-adapter-screen-for-kernel-mode-setting ..... I have amd dual graphics enabled for gaming in windows,   but i dont need this setting in linux.  My problem is that I boot up any ubuntu and it goes black during that loading screen and then comes on perfect once x comes up,  also when i try to switch to console like alt f1 - f6 it does not work ..
[21:46] <Domovoi>   If i disabled the dual graphics in the bios it works ,  so i think what i need to do is tell the kernel to use my pciE graphics card and not my onboard. ---   I tried text mode and i had no video.
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: yeah got all that locked
[21:47] <soa2ii> Hi. I just installed ubuntu 12.04 server and set up a system with around 700 LVs in one VG. Now if I reboot the system it just hangs with random udev commands. Any suggestions?
[21:47] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: it was good - unfortunately missed advice though
[21:49] <Domovoi> by searching i found this in the arch wiki that might help me even though i am using ubuntu ? , https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI#Black_screen_and_no_console.2C_but_X_works_in_KMS
[21:50] <cheryl> Hi could any one help with getting my pogo games too come up
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> cheryl: is it a flash game site?
[21:51] <cheryl> it is a free game site
[21:52] <Chamunks> is there a community page on blanking cd/dvd-rw's
[21:52] <chuck> ah pogo
[21:52] <Chamunks> !cd-rw | chamunks
[21:53] <zykotick9> OMG pogo.com is actually working.  i'm shocked - or at least the 1st tested game poppit! is working here.  cheryl ActionParsnip chuck
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: sudo wodim -vv dev=/dev/cdrw blank=all
[21:54] <chuck> cheryl: testing pogo on my system
[21:54] <cheryl> ok thank you
[21:54] <chuck> cheryl: seems like pogo needs java
[21:54] <tiagoNOOB> my Unity dont want run!
[21:54] <chuck> cheryl: which version of java do you have?
[21:54] <Chamunks> thanks ActionParsnip its failing hard in brasero
[21:54] <BlouBlou> tiagoNOOB: do you have hardware acceleration?
[21:54] <dwarder> how do i find out the file system that current /dev uses?
[21:55] <tiagoNOOB> yes...
[21:55] <tiagoNOOB> BlouBlou,  it was working well, i thing i dot something wrong with ubuntu tweak
[21:55] <cheryl> not sure my grand son did it for me
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: try xfburn. I've never had success with brasero
[21:56] <chuck> dwarder: use the command df -T
[21:56] <dwarder> chuck: thank
[21:56] <dwarder> you
[21:56] <cheryl> is there a way to find out
[21:56] <tiagoNOOB> BlouBlou, the gonem system open but without the window option, the uper unity panel and the left app panel
[21:57] <tiagoNOOB> BlouBlou, I'm using ati radeon closed driver
[21:57] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, i'll check into that brasero usually works fine just the odd burn on these rw's seems to cause issues.
[21:58] <Zeus> How do I get grub back after installing W8RP
[21:58] <chuck> cheryl: in ubuntu software centre search for openjdk
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | Zeus
[21:58] <Zeus> Thanks guys! I love u
[21:59] <Zeus> The win8 bootloader is so ugly
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: could make an alias called 'blankcdrw' :)
[21:59] <chuck> Zeus: i believe it's the grub-install command followed by grub-update
[22:01] <tiagoNOOB> Gnome open without the uper and the left panel, and without the window panel with the maximise, minimise and close option
[22:01] <chuck> cheryl: look in ubuntu software centre for openjdk
[22:02] <chuck> cheryl: also the icedtea java plug-in
[22:03] <Domovoi> it worked the answer to my problem was adding fbcon=map:1 to my kernel boot line,    how do i make it permanent ? ?
[22:04] <brophat> can some of you tell me some pcie or mini pcie wifi adapter cards that you are using and you know work good with 12.04
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Domovoi: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Domovoi: add it in the quotes with:  quiet splash    (seperate with a space)
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Domovoi: save the new file, close gedit then run: sudo update-grub
[22:05] <Domovoi> thank you ActionParsnip
[22:07] <chuck> Domovoi: also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:07] <Domovoi> thank you ,   i put it inside the quotes like this "quiet splash fbcon=map:1"  ?
[22:08] <brophat> anyone what wifi cards that are working good with ubuntu 12.04
[22:08] <chuck> me
[22:09] <chuck> brophat: i use a cisco usb wifi dongle
[22:09] <brophat> thanks chuck, I was hoping to use a pcie or mini pcie cause I have a desktop
[22:09] <chuck> brophat: Model AM10
[22:10] <chuck> brophat: ah
[22:10] <chuck> brophat: if you are looking into wireless stuff..i would go D-Link. Cause they support linux straight out
[22:10] <brophat> chuck I got a card with the infamous rt3090
[22:11] <fishbait> i have an external 500gb drive my internal drives are 500gb /home 80gb / how do i back them both up to the external drive i haben't used more than 500gb though
[22:11] <brophat> chuck ok will look into it. but any card with rt3090 chipset does not work even though ralink supposedly provides the linux driver
[22:11] <chuck> brophat: all i know is that my wifi dongle does not work in kernel 2.6
[22:12] <brophat> chuck I think wifi is a big problem with linux what do yuo think?
[22:12] <chuck> brophat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1973201
[22:12] <chuck> brophat: i have no problems with my wireless devices. it's always good to research what works before purchasing
[22:13] <brophat> chuck yeah that is why I am asking what ppl have that works
[22:14] <chuck> brophat: ive noticed on my laptops wireless card in linux, sometimes does not like certain wifi protection
[22:16] <BadgerGuest596> am I on freenode?
[22:16] <pseudosudo> Newbie question, can someone explain what these parameters do after a command line: " > /dev/null 2>&1 & "
[22:17] <ArchangelSe7en> you are BadgerGuest596
[22:17] <rypervenche> pseudosudo: They hide all output and let you run the program in the background, thus allowing you to continue to write more commands in your terminal.
[22:17] <o12> I rebooted Ubuntu 12.04 and now my language is set to Chinese.
[22:17] <o12> How can I change my language back to English?
[22:18] <pseudosudo> rypervenche, thanks but more specifically what is the function of > and the meaning of 2>&1 &
[22:18] <o12> This is absolutely amazing that I can have my system crash, and the language changes.
[22:18] <rypervenche> pseudosudo: "> /dev/null" this sets the standard output to /dev/null (basically like a trash, kind of), "2>&1" This sends standard error to the same place that standard output is being sent, "&" this throws the command to the background.
[22:19] <brophat> chuck I think the linux community should do a better job of figuring out what wifi cards work best
[22:19] <pseudosudo> rypervenche, thanks a lot. Exactly what i was looking for
[22:19] <fishbait> o12: system > system settings > language support (blue flag icon)
[22:19] <rypervenche> pseudosudo: > is an output redirect. It only affects the output of the program, a.k.a. the text that it puts on your screen.
[22:19] <brophat> chuck I think the wifi is a weak link in this linux thing
[22:19] <epinky> brophat: the wifi network you're trying to access is public? is it your own router wifi?
[22:20] <o12> I found the language panel,but what I'm supposed to do is totally unintuitive.
[22:20] <pseudosudo> rypervenche, thanks. Can all programs be put in the background with & ?
[22:20] <brophat> epinky my own routwer
[22:20] <o12> I draagged English above Chinese.. but nothing changed...
[22:20] <fishbait> you see the box with the different languages?
[22:20] <epinky> brophat: then try to change the operational channel in your wifi-router
[22:20] <ArchangelSe7en> apply , logout and log bacj in
[22:20] <ArchangelSe7en> back*
[22:21] <fishbait> is english in that list?
[22:21] <brophat> epinky you want me to change something in the router? cause I am at my mothers house and she has phones and stuff using the router too
[22:21] <fishbait> o12: is english in that list?
[22:21] <o12> I can't read all of your replies, because for some reason XChat is truncating the last words.
[22:22] <fishbait> o12: is english in list?
[22:22] <epinky> brophat: yes, you can try that, is it about discarding about interference problems
[22:22] <o12> This after my DM crashed the syste. And I had to hard reboot during bootup, edit GRUB three times, and disconnect my external display to get Ubuntu to even boot!
[22:22] <o12> It's in the list
[22:22] <o12> I'll try logging out. Thanks.
[22:22] <fishbait> drag it to the top then click the button right below the list.
[22:23] <fishbait> o12: drag it to the top then click the button right below the list.
[22:23] <epinky> brophat: try doing some kind of diagnosis based on kismet,
[22:23] <brophat> epinky wouldn't I just need to change the chan nel in my wifi card?
[22:23] <epinky> brophat: no, the channel is the channel your equipment is operating
[22:24] <epinky> brophat: your equipment is your wifi-router
[22:24] <chuck> brophat: change the channel on your router
[22:24] <brophat> epinky chuck but what about all the other stuff using the router like the phones?
[22:25] <chuck> brophat: all devices will pick up on whatever channel you set your router to
[22:25] <brophat> chuck
[22:25] <brophat> chuck ok
[22:25] <chuck> brophat: say like you turn on the radio, and one channel is fuzzy..but the next channel sounds great. That is pretty much all it is doing
[22:25] <brophat> but I will tell you. linux is free, but is it really free when yu consider how many hours this wifi card has cost me bwahahahah
[22:26] <chuck> brophat: that's the fun of linux. you actually feel like your learning when you use it. Also, when you get stuff working. you feel very much accomplished
[22:26] <fishbait> linux is for the cheap and geeky
[22:26] <brophat> chuck however, speedtest on my smart phone is good
[22:26] <Chamunks> I've got  syntax highlighter that I would like to install into gedit on ubuntu but i dont know where gtksourceview-3.0/language-specs is
[22:26] <chuck> brophat: that's why windows feels boring to me
[22:26] <brophat> chuck true
[22:26] <caixa> is it possible to get chromium os desktop environment on ubuntu?
[22:27] <chuck> brophat: i have had my phones 4g be faster than wifi before..haha
[22:27] <brophat> chuck my phone speed test, and my mother's puter the speed test is all good, it is only my linux box that is slow
[22:27] <Chamunks> chuck,  i second that.  Sometimes though I like to reverse something after I've been told how to do it.
[22:27] <brophat> chuck no my phone is using the wifi
[22:27] <zykotick9> fishbait: how can you stay here after saying "18:26 < fishbait> linux is for the cheap and geeky"?
[22:27] <brophat> chuck i think it is my wifi card.
[22:28] <chuck> brophat: how far are you from your router?
[22:28] <brophat> as far away as my mother's puter is and as far away as my phone is. I dunno maybe 30 feet max
[22:29] <chuck> caixa: i think this is the best it gets for making ubuntu look like chrome-os http://tutafuta.com/2011/05/13/convert-your-ubuntu-into-chrome-os/
[22:29] <zykotick9> caixa: god i hope not...
[22:30] <chuck> brophat: you got walls between you and the router? cause my router is down the hall in one room, and i get two bars
[22:30] <chuck> brophat: That is like not even 10 feet
[22:30] <caixa> chuck, zykotick9 - i was mainly looking at the sleek theme - http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/04/chromebook-aura-4-1334064355.jpg
[22:31] <caixa> looks really nice
[22:31] <chuck> brophat: also ive noticed, about wireless...dont put it above or below a microwave...you turn that on, and it drops your connection
[22:31] <brophat> yeah there are some wall obstacles. but the point is my mother's computer has same situation and my phone as well and they get consistanly about 10 Mb/s, my linux gets about 3 Mb/s
[22:31] <chuck> brophat: hmm
[22:31]  * zykotick9 thinks wireless is "slow" 90+% of the time compared to wired connections.  my htpc is now wired, it used to be wireless - but streaming was poor, as was general "reliability"
[22:32] <soa2ii> Hi. I just installed ubuntu 12.04 server and set up a system with around 700 LVs in one VG. Now if I reboot the system it just hangs with random udev commands. Any suggestions?
[22:32] <brophat> chuck so i think it is what itis. the linux driver for rt3090 sucks
[22:33] <brophat> chuck even though ralink supposedly works with linux and provides drivers for rt3090
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> brophat: did yuo compile the driver?
[22:33] <bbbbbbbb> what distribution is the best for powerPC hardware? I'm currently using ubuntu and never tried anything else.
[22:34] <brophat> ActionParsnip the compilation had errors
[22:34] <fishbait> its free and has a reputation as being geeky hence cheap and geeky
[22:34] <ArchangelSe7en> bbbbbbbb, MintPPC
[22:34] <brophat> I think rt3090 is the apex of linux frustration
[22:34] <chuck> brophat: you could try sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> brophat: i'd say suspend when it doesn't work OOTB on laptops
[22:35] <brophat> chuck even when I am getting 54M I still get slow download speeds
[22:36] <brophat> ActionParsnip suspend what?
[22:36] <fishbait> being chep and heeky isn't bad i'm not saying anyhintg badd about ubuntu its a generalization but this is getting off-topic so i'm ending this conversation
[22:36] <caixa> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNs0kNOIBnk
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> brophat: ike sleep / hibernate etc
[22:36] <fishbait> *cheap and geeky
[22:36] <chuck> brophat: i had peppermint os three on here before i put ubuntu on it. i noticed the download rates were faster.  odd thing
[22:37] <brophat> chuck I mean look fellas, the rt3090 wifi chipset has been a big prob in linux for a long time. you can google all the probs
[22:37] <brophat> and what is crazy is ralink provides the drivers
[22:37] <chuck> brophat: all i can say is keep pushing through with it until you can get something better man
[22:38] <zykotick9> chuck: on peppermint or ubuntu - download rates faster?
[22:38] <brophat> chuck yeah i think I am just gonna get a new wifi card
[22:38] <chuck> zykotick9: with peppermint my internet was at a way faster rate
[22:39] <fishbait> i have an external 500gb drive my internal drives are 500gb /home 80gb / how do i back them both up to the external drive i haben't used more than 500gb though
[22:39] <bbbbbbbb> ArchangelSe7en: thanks. I'll try it
[22:40] <ArchangelSe7en> sure
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> !backup | fishbait
[22:44] <jen> can anyone get livestream for their system on ubuntu?
[22:44] <chuck> yeah
[22:44] <chuck> jen: you can use vlc for it
[22:44] <chuck> jen: you wanting to stream your desktop?
[22:45] <jen> yes
[22:45] <jen> because I draw
[22:45] <jen> and I want people to be able to watch
[22:45] <chuck> jen: oh ok, there is the vlc way, and another
[22:45] <jen> yeah
[22:45] <jen> yeah?
[22:45] <jen> I want it to be easy for othe peoples on deviantart as well
[22:45] <chuck> jen: ok
[22:46] <chuck> jen: i think vlc has the easiest setup
[22:46] <jen> how do I install vlc
[22:46] <chuck> in the terminal, type in sudo apt-get install vlc
[22:46] <Piranah> Anyone know of a program like d-view cam for Ubuntu ? I dont want my recording software running in a windows env...
[22:46] <chuck> or look for it in the software centre
[22:46] <victorg> hey folks, I'm kinda confused here.  Maybe someone can point me in the right direction?  I'm on 11.10 and I have various services that keep auto-starting on boot up. sysv-rc-conf shows disabled. chkconfig shows disabled.  update-rc.d says 'system start/stop links don't exist'.  Anyone know where I should poke next?
[22:47] <chuck> piranah: you want to record your desktop?
[22:47] <subcool> what program is good for scan disk?
[22:47] <Piranah> chuck no D-View is a dlink program for video surveillance
[22:47] <zykotick9> !upstart | victorg start here to understand why.  ubuntu uses upstart.  all the tools you mention are sysv
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> Piranah: recordmydesktop, kazam, ediete
[22:48] <Piranah> chuck, i have sever security cams that I monitor as my neighbourhood has been robbed a few times this year
[22:48] <victorg> ubottu / zykotick9 - sweet! thank you *very* much.  I'll check out the docs.
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> ahhh
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> Piranah: zoneminder
[22:48] <Piranah> ActionParsnip, that well connect to ip cams ?
[22:48] <Piranah> ok thnx I well check out zoneminder
[22:48] <chuck> Piranah: ah the only video surveillance program ive heared of is zoneminder
[22:48] <Piranah> chuck and ActionParsnip thanks for the tip
[22:49] <chuck> Piranah: someone even created a livecd for zoneminder
[22:49] <zykotick9> victorg: good luck.  don't expect much documentation - but think about linus's sex comment
[22:49] <chuck> prianah: zoneminder can be a frustrating setup
[22:49] <Piranah> chuck :( cant be worse then installing slakware 15 years ago lol
[22:49] <Piranah> ;)
[22:49] <zykotick9> victorg: "some is better then none"
[22:49] <chuck> Piranah: haha it was Gentoo that made me frustrated as all hell
[22:50] <Piranah> ehhe
[22:50] <coin3d> anyone using ubuntu 12.04 in vmware fusion? after updating the system (freh install), it won't boot
[22:50] <coin3d> fresh
[22:50] <chuck> Piranah: i still love slackware :D
[22:50] <Piranah> Thanks again for the quick response and ya I do to but I advocate Ubuntu to everyone these days lol
[22:50] <victorg> zykotick9: haha nice
[22:51] <chuck> haha
[22:51] <chuck> Piranah good luck
[22:51] <victorg> zykotick9: thanks again man, I'm relatively new to ubuntu after years of rhel/centos/fedora
[22:51] <victorg> zykotick9: so still figuring out some details
[22:51] <magic-uk> Just joined ubuntu land :) loving it!
[22:51] <victorg> I really appreciate all the help.
[22:51] <victorg> Yeah, I'm really impressed with the Ubuntu repositories and modern kernels.
[22:51] <zykotick9> victorg: ubuntu user's aren't expected to use services - thus your issue(s)
[22:52] <victorg> zykotick9: not sure I understand your statement
[22:52] <zykotick9> victorg: there is no tool in ubuntu for service management
[22:52] <victorg> zykotick9: oh
[22:52] <victorg> zykotick9: so you just chmod -x /etc/init.d/foo?
[22:52] <subcool> how do i run a fsck (or something ) on my sdcrad?
[22:52] <magoo> is there something up with the ubuntu repos?
[22:53] <magic-uk> I used to use fedora, but couldnt get on with it at all. Hate the fact you have to setup everything from scatch (call me lazy) but i like things just to work straight out of the box! I relise fedora is aimed more for advanced users but hey ho ;)
[22:53] <chuck> subcool where is your sdcard mounted?
[22:53] <trism> victorg: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[22:53] <zykotick9> victorg: NO!  don't touch init.d!  use /etc/init/ and rename the script(s) to foo.disabled
[22:53] <subcool> hey chuck-
[22:53] <subcool> chuck, card reader
[22:53] <chuck> subcool: something like /dev/sdb?
[22:53] <trism> victorg: I would opt for override files, but renaming works as well (though you will have to rename it back to start it later)
[22:53] <subcool> i suppose
[22:53] <chuck> fsck /dev/sdb
[22:54] <subcool> ah
[22:54] <victorg> trism / zykotick9 - very interesting.
[22:54] <subcool> guess i ahve to figure out whihch disk its on.
[22:54] <victorg> thank you, folks.  This helps a log.
[22:54] <zykotick9> trism: i was "surpirse" to learn it's one of the 2 official methods actually...
[22:54] <victorg> time to read some docs and mess with settings.
[22:54] <chuck> logs!
[22:54] <chuck>  ;)
[22:54] <chuck> saving the forest while providing tech support ;)
[22:54] <magic-uk> this helps a log?
[22:54] <magic-uk> :)
[22:54] <victorg> hhe
[22:54] <victorg> hehe
[22:54] <trism> zykotick9: yeah, overrides weren't added until 11.04, so for 10.04 you still need to either edit or rename the file
[22:54] <victorg> on a plane right now, actually
[22:54] <victorg> a couple of vodka's in
[22:55] <chuck> haha
[22:55] <victorg> and the turbulance is kickin'
[22:55] <chuck> i have a cat trying to lay on my keyboard...this is hard to type
[22:55] <zykotick9> trism: oh, perhaps i'm not familiar with overrides then!  my bad, sorry.
[22:55] <jen> okay so after I installed vlc, what do I do chuck ?
[22:55] <magic-uk> oh screw turbulance, last time i was on a plane i threw up lol
[22:55] <victorg> ouch - yeah, turbulance is not fun.
[22:55] <victorg> OK, gotta run.  Thanks again folks.
[22:55] <magic-uk> my flight was only 30 mins too lmao
[22:56] <magic-uk> (doesnt do flying very well)
[22:56] <zykotick9> !ot | magic-uk
[22:56] <chuck> jen: when you open vlc, go to file and go down to stream
[22:56] <magic-uk> sheesh tight rules lol
[22:56] <magic-uk> but ok
[22:57] <subcool> chuck, it complains about being ext2
[22:57] <subcool> chuck, or not being it
[22:57] <chuck> subcool: is it a fat32?
[22:57] <jen> chuck, I don't quite get it, how does it go to Livestream?
[22:58] <chuck> sorry my cat is now laying on my arms, and he's snoring
[22:58] <ArchangelSe7en> aw
[22:58] <subcool> chuck, its a sdcard- thats all i know..
[22:58] <chuck> when you go to stream in vlc, you go to capture device tab
[22:58] <chuck> capture mode should be set to Desktop
[22:59] <chuck> then click show more options
[22:59] <chuck> subcool: you trying to erase it, or fix errors?
[22:59] <subcool> fix errors
[22:59] <subcool> actually- im looking for a simple stupid program without googling half the freaking army
[23:00] <subcool> 10 different programs to simply perform a scandisk
[23:00] <chuck> subcool: http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=3212.0
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> subcool: fsck is in a default install...
[23:00] <jen> chuck, im not quite sure I understand, how does this go to livestream?
[23:01] <chuck> jen: im trying to get to that part
[23:01] <jen> chuck, okay thank you
[23:02] <chuck> jen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1900963
[23:02] <Ticamai> Having issues with grub loading ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Fresh install on an external usb hard drive (has worked with no problems in the past). Rebooted, and was left at a grub terminal, not ubuntu booting. Ran boot-repair from livecd, same issue. boot-repair said to remember http://paste.ubuntu.com/1120652/
[23:02] <chuck> jen: this might help out a bit more
[23:02] <subcool> ActionParsnip, its also a pain to setup- **select medium, scan** - how is that so hard?
[23:02] <subcool>   /dve/fjdal/few -f -w asd
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> subcool: pretty easy, man page explains everything :)
[23:03] <DavilJin> hi
[23:03] <jen> T_T i need to be a bigger nerd
[23:03] <zykotick9> Ticamai: <i'm no help> BUT, thanks for a good question (on 1 line) and using paste.ubuntu.com, i hate patebin.com
[23:03] <chuck> subcool: your in ubuntu 11.04 right?
[23:04] <jen> I just want to share my screen D:
[23:04] <subcool> chuck, ya-
[23:05] <chuck> jen: it will work with vlc, or you can try wecamstudio
[23:05] <subcool> kubuntu
[23:05] <subcool> looking for a gui
[23:05] <chuck> subcool: you got a disk utility program?
[23:05] <subcool> not that i can see
[23:05] <zykotick9> Ticamai: if you can boot your hd install, "sudo update-grub" would probably fix it, but you'd need to chroot successfully for that to work - and ubuntu's !grub2 factoid link doesn't have those instructions (any more) :(..
[23:05] <chuck> subcool: cause i have one in ubuntu
[23:05] <chuck> it gives me the option to check filesystem
[23:05] <rvgate> I'm trying to connect with openvpn to my work... I've recieved the required keys and openvpn config from my administrator to connect, and this works perfectly fine on windows using the OpenVPN Gui for Windows. Im trying to achieve the same with ubuntu using the network manager for openvpn. I use the same keys and certificates and passwords that i use for the gui for windows. But after (succesfully) connected, i am not able to ping any server located w
[23:05] <rvgate> ithin the vpn network (192.168.22.xxx) ... yet it does work on windows :/ what am i missing here?
[23:05] <DavilJin> sorry guys and girls you could give me a guide to create a browser game
[23:05] <subcool> chuck, whats it called?
[23:06] <subcool> chuck, i just install baodo just to do a space analysis
[23:06] <bazhang_> DavilJin, thats not on topic for here
[23:06] <chuck> subcool: this disk utility program came from gnome-disk-utility
[23:07] <jen> i still cant figure this crap out
[23:07] <chuck> DavilJin: you may need to find a guide from either a java or flash programming channel or site
[23:07] <subcool> chuck, im installing t now..
[23:07] <starter2> Hello, I have a TV connected to my laptop and would like to start an X session on my TV. startx -- :1 wont work. How do I find the ID of the TV Display?
[23:08] <chuck> jen: http://www.ws4gl.org/
[23:08] <zykotick9> starter2: what did "startx -- :1" give for an error?
[23:08] <zykotick9> starter2: ... :0 is typically the main screen
[23:08] <DavilJin> I have tried desperately at any site but no success sorry
[23:08] <subcool> chuck, ok- dl'ed .. do u know what the program is clled?
[23:09] <chuck> subcool: in my unity menu it just says disk utility
[23:09] <starter2> zykotick9, my laptop display is broken. When i boot, the TV display shows everything, as soon as i do startx, it gets disconnected
[23:09] <zykotick9> starter2: do you really want a new screen, or a combined screen?  what is your video card(s) "lspci -v | grep -i vga"
[23:09] <DrakeH> Hi, I've just installed ubuntu server 12.04 and I've got some stuff running on there ... but it's been like a week since I booted it and now when I log into the server through ssh and want to install something I'm just getting this: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[23:09] <starter2> I am not sure if :1 gives an error, as soon as i run, i got no more visual
[23:09] <zykotick9> starter2: disregard much of my first quetsion ;)
[23:09] <subcool> chuck, cool- thanks. im working it :/
[23:09] <chuck> subcool: nice
[23:10] <DrakeH> but when I try running apt-get update it gives me loads of Temporary failure resolving <address>
[23:10] <chuck> i gotta go to work people
[23:10] <subcool> got it now-
 starter2: what did "startx -- :1" give for an error? ----> I wouldn't know, I lose visual
 starter2: do you really want a new screen, or a combined screen? ---> New
[23:10] <zykotick9> starter2: try "startx -- :0" or "startx -- :3" i doubt the last suggestion...
[23:10] <DrakeH> The thing I'm trying to install is subversion (easy enough: apt-get install subversion) ... but it's just not working
[23:11] <starter2> its an Ati Mobility radeon HD 5000
[23:11] <starter2> :0 is default is it not?
[23:11] <starter2> so when i do startx i lose contact means :0 would be the same
[23:11] <starter2> i will try
[23:11] <zykotick9> starter2: good luck then - sorry ati = instant /ignore more me.  hope you find a solution!
[23:11] <subcool> chuck, ok- i like tha tpgoram, i use to use it on ubuntu. but nothing. It didnt scan it..
[23:11] <DrakeH> So I'm wondering why I can't use my apt to install stuff ... it's not even due to my sources.list as the install is brand new and it worked 1 week ago
[23:12] <chuck> subcool: what is on that usb stick?
[23:12] <starter2> zykotick9, well that is rather ignorant and vulgar... /ignoring a significant share of the market
[23:12] <bazhang_> starter2, is ubuntu or backtrack
[23:12] <chuck> subcool: if there isn't anything on there you want to keep i would just gparted it
[23:12] <zykotick9> DrakeH: what's the error message?
[23:12] <Chamunks> I remember i could mount an sftp mount point to the filesystem via the fstab before is there a new way of doing this these days?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: use nautilus
[23:13] <starter2> bazhang_, backtrack
[23:13] <bazhang_> starter2, thats not supported here
[23:13] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, im looking to mount it seamlessly to a directory so that wine will load files from it.
[23:13] <bazhang_> !backtrack | starter2
[23:13] <andrewx> SOMEONE help: What creates terminal message "Bus Error" What does this mean????
[23:14] <DrakeH> zykotick9: on what? E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? (when using apt-get) ... Failed to fetch http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/Release.gpg  Temporary failure resolving 'be.archive.ubuntu.com'  and W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. (for apt-get update)
[23:14] <zykotick9> bazhang_: lol - i didn't know.
[23:14] <DrakeH> well, update just gives loads of those
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: you can add it in /etc/fstab  then add a command to mount the mount point in /etc/rc.local  above the exit 0
[23:14] <zykotick9> DrakeH: is it ubuntu repos that are erroring or something else?
[23:14] <DrakeH> zykotick9: just a fresh installl ..
[23:15] <DrakeH> haven't done anything crazy
[23:15] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, that should help too since i've noticed some drives dont auto mount on boot.
[23:15] <zykotick9> DrakeH: do you have internet connection?
[23:15] <Chamunks> !fstab | chamunks
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: yeah, fstab is procesed before the network comes up, so you can imagine the issues it causes
[23:15] <DrakeH> hmpf, I wonder if that's it ... I can connect to it locally
[23:15] <chuck> jen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e58m-UAbZoE
[23:15] <zykotick9> DrakeH: you have a local repo?
[23:15] <chuck> subcool: i gotta go man, take care
[23:15] <andrewx> WHAT is a BUS ERROR <-- what does it mean?
[23:16] <subcool> chuck, thanks.. later
[23:16] <DrakeH> zykotick9: no, obviously not ... but the server is connected to my home network
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> andrewx: in what context
[23:16] <Chamunks> fair enough i remember there was a package i needed to get like sftp something in synaptic (that was the last time i did this was when synaptic was the main pm)
[23:16] <andrewx> "Bus errorackage lists... 0%"
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: you can still use synaptics, the sftp command is in a default install
[23:16] <DrakeH> zykotick9: hm, broadcast seems to be commented out in interfaces
[23:16] <andrewx> Terminal keeps printing "Bus Error"
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> andrewx: even in xterm?
[23:17] <DrakeH> could that be it ? The rest should be fine
[23:17] <Chamunks> i dont need synaptic the ubuntu one is fine most of the time if not i dont mind the command line.
[23:18] <andrewx> Obviously I another PC to find out things
[23:18] <Chamunks> AcidRain2012,  synaptic was just nice to have to teach you what was happening.
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: i guess, I always use apt-fast
[23:19] <jen> how the heck to I take the webcam studio and install it?
[23:19] <jen> I downloaded it
[23:19] <DrakeH> zykotick9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1126146/ ... that's the one I am currently using
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> jen: http://www.ws4gl.org/download/installing-on-ubuntu   has a how to. It's omn their website!
[23:21] <zykotick9> DrakeH: try uncommenting broadcast, and reboot (or restart networking successfully)
[23:21] <mastavra> how can I listen mms radio stations on ubuntu
[23:21] <zykotick9> DrakeH: assuming other info is correct...
[23:21] <jen> my small brain cannot comprehend
[23:22] <DrakeH> well I have a local connection to my server, so something must be right
[23:22] <jen> Im used to, 'download' 'install' 'press button' Walah!
[23:23] <mastavra> how can I listen mms radio stations on ubuntu
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> jen: read the page I gave you...
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> mastavra: there is a radio lens for dash
[23:23] <jen> I did but I dont get it
[23:23] <jen> how is this connected with the website, LiveStream?
[23:23] <UbuntuLover> I currently have two partitions on my hard drive. 15 GB data drive, and 235 GB Partition with windows 8 release preview on it. How do i replace W8RP while keeping the 15 GB Data drive UNTOUCHED.
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> jen: wget http://webcamstudio.googlecode.com/files/webcamstudio_0.56_all.deb; sudodpkg -i ./webcamstudio_0.56_all.deb
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> jen: all you had to do was double click the deb file you have, that command just does that stuff for you
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> jen: reading the web page told you that
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> jen: "Locate the Webcamstudio.deb package, double click it and follow the prompts for an installation.
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> jen: too hard?
[23:25] <Fyodorovna> UbuntuLover, replace with what?
[23:25] <UbuntuLover> Ubuntu 12.04
[23:26] <UbuntuLover> I want to install Ubuntu on the W8 partition, while leaving the Data partition UNTOUCHED
[23:26] <Fyodorovna> UbuntuLover, use the something else option from the live cd, format that partiton to a ext4 put / for mount and install
[23:26] <jen> it did not bring up the installation window
[23:26] <UbuntuLover> thank you.
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> jen: is the deb installed in the terminal ok?
[23:27] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, apt-fast ... hmm
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: yep. apt-get + axel = apt-fast
[23:29] <mastavra>  is there somebody help me about "how can I listen mms radio stations on ubuntu"
[23:30] <jen> yeah Im just stupid
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: if you are installing it, when you get it in, install something chunky like gimp (if its not already in) and watch it flyyyyy
[23:30] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, sounds like fun I'll try to remember i have it but i'm installing it now :P
[23:30] <jen> It brings me to ubuntu studio but there isn't really any good views on this webcam thing
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> jen: does the webcam work in cheese?
[23:30] <subcool> SO no one uses a GUi based disk check?
[23:31] <jen> ActionParsnip, yes
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> jen: good, thats the hard part :)
[23:31] <jen> okay what i did was, i went to install on the website where it has the picture and links at the side, I clicked on that and it brought me to the ubuntu software
[23:32] <jen> and it says...
[23:32] <jen> Dependency is not satisfiable: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[23:32] <jen> no idea what the heck that means
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> jen: then run:   sudo apt-get -f install
[23:32] <jen> thats all?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> jen: the webcam studio app needs that package to work, it depends on it being instaled in order to do what it needs to do
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> jen: its a good start
[23:33] <jen> okay I did that
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> jen: is it installing now?
[23:34] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip,  so i could go by this http://goo.gl/LCh6H
[23:34] <phunyguy> can someone recommend a banking app like Quicken that can do online bank data importing (OFX), and is fairly easy to set up?
[23:34] <phunyguy> I couldnt get GnuCash to work and the double entry accounting is overkill.
[23:35] <jen> im trying to install it right now ActionParsnip
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: sure, or you can use this: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/you-can-now-install-apt-fast-from-ppa.html
[23:35] <phunyguy> and KMyMoney doesnt have what I need
[23:35] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip,  i like ppa's
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: the postinst adds nice autocompletes to the system, simply using the script means you can't TAB complete 'install' 'purge' etc
[23:36] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, i even like sections of code that I dont even need to think about that I can copy n paste in.
[23:36] <Chamunks> dont get me wrong i did skim it to make sure it seemed legit but still :P
[23:37] <andrewx> a "bus error" is related to bad RAM?
[23:37] <andrewx> using free /h reports proper RAM, so I don't know.
[23:37] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, are the arguments / variables similar to apt-get would it be possible to modify the ubuntu software center to work with apt-fast?
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: one adds the ppa, the next rereads all sources (including the new ppa), the 3rd installs the package.....
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: they are identical
[23:38] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip,  so essentially it could be recompiled to run with apt-fast ( i keep trying to typo apt-ghast frigging minecraft)
[23:39] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip,  that ppa is 404'ing during apt-get update
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: i guess
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: or just compiled to use axel by default...
[23:40] <Chamunks> so is axel the graphical package manager?
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: no, its a way to download a single file given multiple sources (kinda like torrents)
[23:41] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, oh nice ugh i really wasnt going to delve into more stuff why am i so ADD bleh ok im gonna add the ppa from launchpad.net
[23:42] <rretzbach> I want to emulate keyboard strokes using "xte" but can't find it in universe, has it been removed? I use 12.04
[23:43] <zykotick9> Fyodorovna: a default ubuntu install should have both a / and a swap partition (problem if there are already 4 partitions to start with)
[23:44] <Fyodorovna> zykotick9, Why are we having this conversation?
[23:45] <jen_> okay now
[23:45] <jen_> how to do share my screen via livestream?
[23:45] <zykotick9> Fyodorovna: sorry, context "19:26 < Fyodorovna> UbuntuLover, use the something else option from the live cd, format that partiton to a ext4 put / for mount and install"
[23:46] <Chamunks> wierd im getting 404s on Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Sources 404  Not Found
[23:46] <Chamunks> and on W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tldm217/tahutek.net/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[23:47] <DrakeH> could anyone explain to me what exactly the "network" and "broadcast" parameters are in setting up a static network interface? I get the rest but I dont get those 2
[23:47] <Wug> alright so
[23:47] <Wug> utility question
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: ok, run:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:apt-fast/stable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install apt-fast
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: even supports Quantal :)
[23:47] <Wug> I've been having disk trouble lately
[23:47] <zykotick9> DrakeH: network is the .0 address, broadcast is 255 (typically)
[23:47] <bazhang> !enter | Wug
[23:48] <Fyodorovna> zykotick9, right personally I don't use a swap I use this. http://pqxx.org/development/swapspace/  I have been using open source for about 5 years I started withit. As wel I made that comment right between ActionParsnip's comments he had nothing to say.
[23:48] <tedromer> join #bigstore
[23:48] <Wug> I'd like to run fsck on some things without rebooting
[23:48] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, I can leave the other ppa there incase it comes back online and that will be fine?
[23:48] <DrakeH> zykotick9: when I uncomment broadcast (which is set to 192.168.0.255) it causes my interface to be disabled, can't get it running that way
[23:48] <Wug> I've got them mounted readonly but fsck still complains that its mounted, is it safe to fsck it anyway
[23:48] <zykotick9> Fyodorovna: wfm isn't a good support suggestion.
[23:48] <DrakeH> and when I comment it I only have local access but dont have internet access
[23:49] <zykotick9> DrakeH: re-paste your interfaces... if you will.
[23:49] <tedromer_> join #bigstore
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: you can remove the PPA if you want, you can run:  sudo apt-get install ppa-purge; sudo ppa-purge ppa:tldm217/tahutek.net
[23:49] <Wug> tedromer_: you mean /join
[23:49] <Fyodorovna> zykotick9, tich tich get over it, It will not cause damage or create a problem and actually answerede the users question.
[23:50] <Fyodorovna> answered*
[23:50] <jen_> anyone?
[23:50] <DrakeH> zykotick9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1126175/ ... on eth0 I get internet access, on eth1 I get local access .. if I uncomment broadcast it stops working (eth1)
[23:50] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip,  which package manager to install and remove software apt-get or aptitude I should choose apt-get yes?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> jen_: i'm guessing no as nobody responded..
[23:50] <jen_> x-x
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: either is fine
[23:50] <jen_> so I just installed this...
[23:50] <jen_> for nothing?
[23:51] <zykotick9> DrakeH: thanks.  sorry from what you've given - that appears correct "to me".  hopefully someone else has an answer.
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> jen_: there are about 1500 users here, the ubuntu user base is in the millions, try later or search the forums. Great attitude by the way
[23:52] <DrakeH> Anyone else then who knows a thing or 2 about network interfaces?
[23:52] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, ok it looks to have been installed but typing in sudo apt-fast ins TAB doesnt autocomplete
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: if you run it anyway, does it run ok?
[23:53] <Chamunks> seems to run fine yeh
[23:53]  * Wug nominates bazhang 
[23:53] <jen_> does anyone on here know how to connect the webcamstudio to livestream?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: if you run:  which apt-fast     what is output?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> DrakeH: in what way?
[23:54] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip,  i jumped ahead and did an apt-fast update then apt-fast upgrade already :P
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: sweet, do you have gimp installed?
[23:54] <DrakeH> ActionParsnip: well, I am having issues getting internet access on a static interface I configured -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1126175/
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: or, did you see how apt-fast differs to apt-get already :)
[23:54] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip,  I do I'm trying to think of something i dont thats bigger.
[23:54] <DrakeH> I get local network access, but no internet access
[23:55] <Chamunks> I'm guessing what its doing is downloading from multiple mirros.
[23:55] <Chamunks> mirrors.
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: could reinstall your kernel package, thats quite big
[23:55] <starter2> bazhang, i tried ubuntu boot. It was connected to my external at the begining, as soon as it loaded the X session, external got unplugged
[23:55] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, oh and how would i do that and would that not cause issues somehow (my install is fairly vanilla though so idk maybe not)
[23:56] <Wug> I've got some disks that need fscking, mounted readonly.  fsck complains that theyre mounted, is it safe to fsck them anyway?
[23:56] <yeats> Wug: no - it's not safe - you should boot into a live CD and do it from there
[23:57] <OerHeks> jen_, here is a howto to publish on ustream, maybe a help with your service > http://www.ws4gl.org/download/installing-on-ubuntu
[23:57] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: re: DrakeH - from http://paste.ubuntu.com/1126175/ i don't see an issue - do you?  (my suggestion to uncomment broadcast and restart results in no network - i'm told)
[23:57] <bazhang> starter2, thats backtrack
[23:57] <starter2> no, backtrack starts into console
[23:57] <bazhang> starter2, #backtrack-linux
[23:57] <starter2> and when u do startx, then it loses it
[23:57] <starter2> ubuntu does it automatically
[23:57] <starter2> because it does startx automatically
[23:57] <Wug> yeats: why not?  I was under the impression that horrible things only happened to people who wrote to a disk that fas fscking itself
[23:57] <Wug> was*
[23:58] <escapeplan> Anybody here using openbox ?
[23:58] <yeats> Wug: it is never a good idea to fsck a mounted disk
[23:58] <Wug> I guess I'll just unmount it
[23:58] <zykotick9> !anyone | escapeplan
[23:58] <W4sp> DrakeH: ActionParsnip: zykotick9: It would be interesting to see what your route currently is. As eth0 is dhcp'ed you may have your metrics wrong?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> escapeplan: i use it some days, in lubuntu
[23:59] <Wug> I'm not booting so it doesnt need /boot anyway
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: maybe a bad route?
[23:59] <DrakeH> W4sp: I just checked ... I dont have a cable plugged into other ethernet port
[23:59] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: could be??