=== slowz is now known as Guest11178 === Guest11178 is now known as sl0wz [02:29] why can't i have multiple apps use the sound card at once? and how do i fix it? i'm on xubuntu 12.04 64-bit [02:29] audio is an onboard Intel HDA / Realtek ALC887 [02:37] good evening! can someone help me? there's someone from Brazil here? [02:42] actually, I think my problem is pretty simple... I've installed Xubuntu and everything was doing right, but when I upgraded it, my audio stopped working... now I can't listen my musics nor any sound... what I supposed to do? [02:45] my husband suggested reinstall Xubuntu, but I prefer try another approach... 'cause I don't wanna miss my archives and I don't have any ways to do a backup yet... it's an NETbook and I don't have an external HD [02:48] May want to have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting and even https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio [04:26] hey guys i could use some help with pavucontrols [04:27] im having issues getting it to switch output controls [04:34] i need hacker [04:34] anyone here [04:35] please buzz [07:05] greetings [07:25] does anybody know how to tell xscreensaver to turn off the backlight? "xset dpms force off" works [07:27] it doesn't do it if you leave it for a while? [07:29] nope, backlight stays on permanently [07:29] i mean, screen is turned black after 10 minutes, screen is locked, but backlight stays on [07:31] you can set display sleep to 10 minutes in power managment settings [07:44] ok, if i disable xscreensaver and configure power management settings, the backlight is turned off [07:44] but it seems like the screen is not locked [07:46] and xflock4 still does not disable the backlight [07:48] screen should be turned off even xscreensaver enabled, with xflock at least it's turned off in ten minutes [07:49] I wonder if script with "sleep 2" first for launching xflock and then xset dpms force off would work [08:22] i have 50 jpg files that would be much easier to read in a single pdf file, is there any way to do so? [08:24] !info sam2p [08:24] sam2p (source: sam2p): convert raster images to EPS, PDF, and other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.49.1-1 (precise), package size 245 kB, installed size 560 kB [08:31] Unit193, is that command line alone? [08:32] Yes. [08:36] Unit193, im now reading the readme and dont see any section for "convert every image inside a directory" option... [08:41] hi folks [08:42] I have a quaint problem with thunar -- I just noticed that it doesn't show the trash in the sidebar [08:43] does thrash work at all? [08:44] Sysi: how do I tell? [08:44] there is ~/.local/Trash directory filled with the files I have deleted... [08:45] if you press del after selecting files it goes there? [08:46] yes [08:47] my first sspicion is that the xubuntu devs have disabled it because they prefer the panel plugin for the trash [08:47] if that is the case, I would like to know how to enable it [08:47] because I do not prefer the panel plugin [08:47] Still there in Quantal by default. [08:48] I'm on Precise [08:48] I'm not sure when it disappeared [08:48] (By that I was saying it wasn't removed, I am also on precise and have it) Could try backing up the config for thunar and removing the config dir. [08:49] could be related to gtk bookmarks too [08:49] Unit193: the config of thunar is a text file and has nothing about trash in it [08:49] Sysi: bookmarks work [08:58] OK, solved, I didn't have gvfs installed [08:59] oh, I thought thunar wouldn't have trash functionality at all without it [09:26] madnick, o hai! === m00se is now known as Guest14958 [09:50] knome: hi [09:50] madnick, hmm, you not at -devel :) [09:50] knome: oh, sorry === Guest14958 is now known as m00se === m00se is now known as Guest49038 [10:34] hi === Guest49038 is now known as m00se === m00se is now known as Guest89267 [11:34] hi [11:34] on one of my boxes "sudo -i" gives me a shell to run root gui apps from, on the other the X display access is being denied for the root user [11:35] xhost output is the same on both machines [11:35] what could cause this? [11:35] /etc/sudoers are the same as well [11:37] what else could cause the DISPLAY variable to be unset and display access to be forbidden? [11:38] i installed all latest updates [11:43] hia [11:44] I'm interested in the recent release of Voyager; most of you heard of it? [12:00] Yes I've listened to it, but what does this have to do with Xubuntu support? === Guest89267 is now known as m00se === m00se is now known as Guest55927 [12:06] astraljava, hi, nice to see someone is here :) [12:07] astraljava, and I'm not talking of the music band Voyager, the distro based on xubuntu [12:08] there are ppa's for it, and just was curious what the difference was between installing voyager or bringing the ppa's into xubuntu [12:11] astraljava, ? [12:12] why is this room so quiet? bordering unfriendlyness [12:12] everyone is a volunteer [12:12] I'm at work, so cannot pay attention all the time. [12:12] Can't speak for others, but I believe none of us are paid to watch this. [12:13] you should ask voyager guys, I guess there isn't much difference [12:13] since he worked with xubuntu and other aspects of ubuntu I thought someone here might know about it. [12:15] i haven't heard of "him" working with xubuntu really. [12:15] as far as I understand from google translated homepage, it's just xubuntu with additional stuff [12:16] Sysi, yes, basically [12:18] there doesn't seem to be an irc channel, so, thought to hop in to find out more. [12:19] It looks beautiful but not sure whether he's brought compiz and what not into xubuntu. I wondered if the purpose of xubuntu is to be a 'lighter' alternative to kde/gnome whether it defeats the purpose [12:21] btw, astraljava I know and appreciate that no one is being paid/ all are volunteers, but that is true of all channels, or most at least. It just feels really dead here and I got happy when you responded, but then you disappeared again, which speaks of more than volunteerism [12:22] not really, you are getting it wrong. [12:22] in addition to having volunteers only, we actually have less manpower too. [12:25] you have a lot more than a lot of other channels, lol.. don't get me wrong, I appreciate the ethos, and I ask and patient; if someone answers great, but of course I'm human and its frustrating when someone begins a convo and switches off immediately or peoople only pipe in to say that they are volunteers and therefore don't have to say even 'hi' - sorry - dont konw... [12:25] note that not all of the users are actually "helping" here, some of them are just sitting/idling [12:26] livingdaylight: As I said, I'm at work, and have a chance to just occasionally glance at the channels. I'm sorry if you felt neglected. I can't do better. [12:26] astraljava, its fine, I thought your remark was inviting me in conversation [12:28] so, no comment on xubuntu + compiz /awn etc being equal to kde/gnome in bloatware? [12:30] I run xubuntu 12.04 with compiz and cairo-dock and have a stable, cool and smooth laptop. [12:31] I think many docks and compiz suffer from the pulseaudio effect. I was a buggy when released but got less resource hungry with time, but distaste stuck. [12:32] compiz isn't really light, so if a light os is your primary goal, don't use that. [12:33] this is the ppa: https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa [12:34] for xfce 4.10, yes. [12:34] but that's not officially supported [12:35] 4.10 packages aren't there anymore [12:35] devel packages were there [12:35] mmh, that too. [12:35] aquix, I am looking to run on laptop which is fairly new, Acer Aspire timelineX 4830t but everything I try runs very HOT whereas windows used to run very cool on it :s [12:35] installing compiz won't help [12:36] upgrading bios worked for me with an older laptop [12:36] livingdaylight, what do you mean by hot? [12:36] can't find the link now but he spoke somewhere of his association with xubuntu https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit [12:37] GridCube, the chassis and mousepad aread get uncomfortably hot [12:37] oh [12:37] livingdaylight, yes, mr_pouit is a xubuntu developer, but he is NOT the voyager developer. [12:38] currently running Bodhilinux which is better but the distro is a little bit quirky [12:38] knome, no? my bad then. I thought he was [12:38] livingdaylight, nope. he's not. [12:40] since unity haven't been able to find a new home. [12:41] maybe just need to ubuntu + cinnamon ppa hrmph [12:43] http://voyager.legtux.org/index.php/a-propos-2/ the xubuntu 12.10 promo is sweet [12:46] livingdaylight, have you seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireTimeline ? [12:48] GridCube, actually this week only I joined that launchpad group. But don't know how to benefit from it. [12:48] GridCube, thanks for looking that up [12:49] they say they have a mailing list at the bottom of that page [12:49] you could ask them there, it might be helpful [12:49] GridCube, actually, I hadn't seen that particular link, so, that is helpful. I found the launchpad group via another link [12:50] yes, thank you. Because, I'm finding it is an issue with most distros and shouldn't have to run puppylinux or something on a i3 processor [12:50] :) [12:52] it might be some kernel issue, i have really superficial knowledge on those topics, but you might have to try getting a kernel that supports you notebook fans architecture? dunno [12:53] GridCube, http://clip2net.com/s/2aGtL [12:54] yes, and ubuntu is my best chance I believe of finding a match, i believe. [12:55] ask in the ml :) they might know better, if they answer :P [12:56] ml ? [12:57] there are many things that can cause a hot laptop, like badly configured laptop control. but pinpointing the spesific problem can take some googling, and most likely you'll get ubuntuforums threads. have you installed lm-sensors ? [12:58] *fan control [12:58] aquix, i have now :) [12:59] I did look in synaptic and found a number of things which promised to check cpu tmp and fan controls [12:59] powertop also doens't come by default [13:00] gkrellm is the popular one :P [13:00] ran sensors-detect ? also check in top to see what if anything eats the cpu [13:00] last time I did all that i wasn't running much at all. === Guest55927 is now known as m00se === m00se is now known as Guest16707 [13:04] aquix, could you tell me whether I should go ahead? http://pastebin.com/rYEPj7PF [13:05] yup [13:05] have you installed your graphics card drivers? [13:05] no [13:06] don't have graphic cards on this laptop [13:06] some onboard graphics [13:06] whats it called? [13:08] I might recommend a terminal program called inxi it shows hardware specs, drivers and other system info. great when troubleshooting [13:09] lspci | grep "VGA" [13:09] :P [13:10] http://pastebin.com/qZui6dz5 is that it? 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) [13:10] intel should work well with the generic drivers [13:10] mines do [13:11] anyway you could try gksu jockey-gtk and see if it offers you some drivers [13:11] * GridCube is sad because jockey-gtk is being abandoned :( [13:11] yeah, mesa drivers usually do [13:13] GridCube, gksu jockey-gtk just brought me back to prompt [13:13] I got a laptop with optimus graphics card (bought in a hurry). Thank god for bumblebee :) [13:13] D: [13:13] i had a look at bumblebee but not appropriate for my graphics I was told [13:14] should I go ahead and confirm modifying /etc/modules? [13:15] * GridCube doesnt know [13:15] aquix, ? the core-temp thingy sensors-detect came back with [13:16] http://pastebin.com/rYEPj7PF [13:16] its still waiting for a yes/no [13:17] k, went ahead with that [13:17] I always do [13:17] now, inx? [13:17] inxi [13:17] sudo apt-get install inxi ? [13:18] try, can't remember if it's in the repos [13:19] apparently not [13:19] !info inxi [13:19] Package inxi does not exist in precise [13:19] nope [13:20] livingdaylight look at this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1889898 there is also a program called thinkfan worth searching for [13:20] ok, aquix | GridCube - thank you VERY much [13:21] :) dont worry, and good luck [13:21] no problem [13:21] hah, i7 - i wish, mines just i3 :) [13:22] still could apply? [13:22] here http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/shell-system-information-tool-for-linux.html [13:25] sweet [13:26] yup, it's a sweeth little program, and you can also call on it here in irc so anyone can see your specs with /exec like this.. [13:30] running into dependency issues gawek and mesa-utils missing, but sudo apt-get install gawk is not installing [13:30] gawk : PreDepends: libsigsegv2 (>= 2.9) but it is not going to be installed [13:31] You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: [13:31] -f = force? is that safe? [13:33] hmm, strange [13:35] try sudo apt-get install gawk mesa-utils [13:35] then the deb file again [13:35] launched synaptic and says a package is broken and to use the broken filter [13:36] if not try sudo apt-get -f install [13:37] or just skip the tool it'll probably fail anyway because of missing dependencies [13:44] Alright, I probably should've listened last time, but before installing Xubuntu I used nomodeset and it worked fine. Then I installed without the needed display drivers. Now I can't boot into Xubuntu. [13:44] Is there a way to boot into a command-line mode or install drivers without having to boot it up? [13:47] z121231211: yes and yes [13:48] Oh cool, I guess booting up the live cd would be simpler. How do I install the vesa drivers on an installation that way? [13:49] z121231211: vesa should be installed by default [13:50] z121231211: but the way you would do it is 1. boot your livecd, 2. mount the disk on which your / is, 3. chroot to it, 4. install it normally [13:50] z121231211: won't work for things that need to install additional stuff in kernel, like nvidia drivers [13:51] I'm using AMD and heard something about "aticonfig --initial" [13:51] How do I chroot? [13:51] you can boot regular installation with nomodeset too [13:52] How? [13:52] Is there a key I have to press before booting? [13:53] press/hold shift right after bios [13:53] Alright, I'm going to save this and try to boot in with either nomodeset or with live CD, brb === Guest16707 is now known as m00se [14:02] whats the easiest way to enlarge an open app? === m00se is now known as Guest60513 [14:02] im looking for an option that includes drawing with the mouse plus a key [14:03] from the corner of the app... [14:05] Alright, I'm in the live cd right now. Couldn't get to nomodeset by mashing shift for my installation. [14:06] Odd, my name got weird === Guest60513 is now known as m00se === xubuntu426z12123 is now known as z121231211 [14:12] Is there any way to get rid of the "Recenttly Used" choice when opening files? [14:23] Alright I chroot-ed on to the other filesystem. aticonfig isn't installed and I don't know how I'd get it. [14:23] !find aticonfig [14:23] File aticonfig found in fglrx, fglrx-updates [14:24] bash !: event not found [14:24] bash: !find: event not found* [14:25] z121231211: that was a command for ubottu, our channel bot. [14:25] Oh [14:25] z121231211: it said that 'aticonfig' is in the fglrx package. [14:26] Ah thanks, installing things. Finally getting somewhere [14:27] sorry I wasn't clear [14:28] z121231211: you can also use the search at http://packages.ubuntu.com [14:29] It was downloading, but I got an error. Mostly no such files and permission denied [14:29] Would that be the limitations of chroot? [14:30] sudo apt-get update [14:30] it has links to old versions, newer versions appeared in the meantime [14:31] Alright, doing that now [14:31] or not [14:31] also, make sure your disk is not mounted read-only [14:31] 'mount' will tell you [14:33] Where is 'mount' or do I type that in? [14:33] you type that [14:34] It's downloading files right now. Right-click>properties says there's read/write permissions for Owner but read only for everyone else [14:34] that's ok [14:35] mount says rw,nosuid,nodev [14:35] uhelper=udisks [14:35] ok [14:36] rw == read-write [14:36] Ok, all good then [14:38] if you get the errors again, can you pastebin them? [14:38] Sure [14:40] Actually I can't copy from terminal [14:40] Or I guess, how do I copy from terminal? [14:42] hi [14:43] z121231211: you just select it [14:43] z121231211: and then you press the middle mouse button to paste it [14:45] Alright [14:51] I guess fresh installations take awhile to update [14:57] http://pastebin.com/6yf8S7gy [14:57] How it went [14:58] There was a permission denied at the end but not sure if that'd be significant [14:58] hehe, fun, that's an artifact of the chroot [14:59] to do it correctly you should rebind /dev and /proc before doing chroot [15:00] How do I do that? [15:01] http://pastebin.com/cENXm30r [15:01] Tried it again, error messages [15:01] so, if you have your disk mounted under /media/yourdisk, you should first do mount --bind /dev /media/yourdisk/dev [15:01] and then chrrot /media/yourdisk [15:01] tried to create a 'Linux' group in Diigo to save all the links and tips posted earlier for my benefit. But, Diigo wants a minimum of a 6 letter entry, but Linux is spelt with 5 letters - silly Diigo - what doo they care whether my group is a 3 or 5 letter word? [15:03] livingdaylight: call it 'linux diigo group' :D [15:03] "Linux <3" [15:03] TheSheep: How do I get out of chroot? [15:03] baizon: why would you exclude the 3.x kernel? [15:03] z121231211: type "exit" [15:04] TheSheep: its the web 2.0 smiley :P [15:04] TheSheep, \o/ [15:08] TheSheep: Alright, mounted /dev and /proc. Should I just do all of that again? [15:10] TheSheep: omg it's doing something different! :D [15:12] on ubuntu, what's the difference between xubuntu-desktop and xfce4? [15:13] trying to decide what I should install [15:13] nsahoo: integration into ubuntu stuff, like usc indicators, etc. [15:13] TheSheep: Alright it installed and I was able to do "aticonfig --initial". Just in case: http://pastebin.com/Ed6e2BVf [15:13] i recommend xubuntu [15:14] baizon: why? [15:14] TheSheep: Should I do anything else? [15:14] nsahoo: like i said, you get more features :) [15:15] baizon: ok [15:21] TheSheep: Just booted up, no errors. Thanks a ton! [15:55] TheSheep, or, come to think of it, "GNU/Linux" :D [17:45] would someone here mind helping me with pavucontrols for somereason my volume keys arnt working [17:45] even though i have my built in speakers set as default the volume keys only control hdmi out [17:48] anyone here [17:54] Riley24: we are here, but we don't know how to solve that [17:54] Riley24: have you tried searching the forums? [17:54] yes [17:55] Riley24: you could try the sound mixer panel plugin? [17:55] Riley24: it lets you choose which sound card and track to use [17:55] it switches channels fine and the slider works but my volume key only controls hdmi out [17:56] there isnt one im on voyageros witch is xubuntu 12.04 [17:57] it only has pavucontrols and pulse audio eq [17:57] alsamixer is there in terminal and it is set right [18:01] Riley24: one workaround you could try is to set shortcuts on your volume kesy to alsamixer [18:01] Riley24: or amixer [18:01] how would i do that [18:01] i only need pavucontrols to switch outputs [18:03] does "amixer sset Master playback +20dB" work for you? [18:03] (type that in terminal) [18:06] only shows 0.00db gain [18:06] :/ [18:06] how about "amixer -c 1 sset Master playback +20dB" ? [18:08] im not seing -c anywere [18:12] well this kind of explains it but im not sure how they did that [18:12] http://askubuntu.com/questions/130927/how-to-switch-default-sound-device-controlled-by-hardware-keys-in-xubuntu [18:22] sweet i did it! [18:22] thank god lol [18:23] i had to reset the string under settings editor === slow-motion_ is now known as slow-motion [18:47] I wonder where would be the right place to ask for advice on buying a laptop [18:48] TheSheep: Probably ##hardware [18:48] TheSheep: offtopic i think [18:48] genii-around: thanks [18:48] =) [20:35] hello [20:36] is there any quick way to setup xubuntu to look EXACTLY like it does in live cd? [20:36] i have fresh xubuntu installation [20:39] liquidee: it should look the same [20:40] TheSheep: i think i might have messed it up [20:40] TheSheep, when i rebooted the machine after installation [20:40] liquidee: make sure you select the 'xubuntu' session on first login of your user, not the 'xfce' one [20:40] yeah [20:40] thats what i did [20:40] :D [20:40] i mean i choose xfce [20:40] then create a new user [20:40] so i guess it overrided my settings [20:41] oh [20:41] brb, trying that [20:41] remember to give it admin rights [22:15] Hello, anyone knows why ''gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf'' command won't work for me? I'm new to Xubuntu. [22:18] Hello, anyone knows why ''gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf'' command won't work for me? I'm new to Xubuntu. === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang