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utu-sanhi guys..looks like we are missing oxugen-cursor-theme for 4.9?00:14
utu-sanoxygen*00:14
utu-sanCandidate: 0.0.2012-06-kde4.8-2ubuntu100:16
utu-san kde-workspace-data depends on oxygen-cursor-theme00:17
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utu-sanforced kde-workspace-data and seems to be working with that oxygen-cursor-theme issue.  however apt-get will be complaining bec of that00:36
utu-sanlooks like it's not in ppa:backports either00:37
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Tm_Tsooo I decided I go and try finalize the upgrade: http://paste.kde.org/527540/05:30
Tm_Tthere seems to be dependency conflicts05:30
Tm_TI could go on and force those, but I suppose this is not expected?05:33
ScottKIf sudo apt-get -f install will fix it, then it should be fine.05:47
Tm_TScottK: that output is from apt-get install -f (:06:24
Tm_Tso no it doesn't fix06:24
ScottKOh.06:24
ScottKTry removing kde-runtime-dbg and then apt-get -f install again.06:25
Tm_Thmmm06:29
Tm_Tdoes not let me remove it cleanly, pretty much as I suspected06:30
Tm_TI wonder if this is just me (and I should stop complaining) or something that will affect others too06:31
ScottKsudo apt-get -f remove kde-runtime-dbg06:34
ScottKDunno.06:34
ScottKSince you've got a bunch of i386 autoremove packages, I have a suspicion this may be multiarch related and not related to KDE stuff.06:34
Tm_TScottK: I don't see arch-related errors though06:35
ScottKTrue, but the dependency resolver may be getting confused somehow.06:35
Tm_Tif this is just me, I can easily sort this for myself, but then if this is something more widespread, by forcing things forward I shut myself out of testing06:35
ScottKI think we need to narrow it down a bit to see.06:36
Tm_Thmm, autoremove ofcourse doesn't work without forcing either, also none of those multiarch-related packages are involved06:37
Tm_Tso I highly doubt it would be affecting any way06:37
Tm_Tatleast as far as I can see it (:06:37
ScottKThe problem with the removal is you're stuck in the middle.06:40
ScottKThe multiarch may have to do with why it got confused and landed you there.06:41
ScottKWere you able to remove the -dbg?06:41
Tm_Tyup, with force-depends, let's see how it goes now06:43
Tm_Tah, aand then removing multiple dbg packages and then retry06:43
Tm_Tto avoid forcing, removed like this: "sudo dpkg --remove kde-runtime-dbg kdebase-runtime-dbg kde-workspace-dbg calligra-dbg kdemultimedia-dbg"06:44
Tm_Thttp://paste.kde.org/527558/06:45
Tm_Tso hmmm, if I go this route, I might have to remove quite a lot06:46
ScottKWhat happens if you sudo apt-get -f install kde-runtime-data06:46
ScottKThat seems like the one that's the key to get upgraded.06:47
ScottKshadeslayer: kdenetwork wants to build-dep on telepathy-qt for some kind of bindings.  You might want to have a look and see if we need a new binary.06:48
ScottKtest building the last KDE 4.8.5 package now ...06:53
Tm_TScottK: apt-get install takes either packages or -f, it doesn't apply both (:06:59
ScottKOK.06:59
ScottKThen try it without the -f06:59
Tm_T"E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)."07:00
Tm_T"dpkg --install --force-depends kde-runtime-data" would make difference07:01
Tm_Tbut it doesn't necessarily help explaining why this happens07:01
ScottKThe newer version of -runtime-data shouldn't have the conflict the current one does.07:04
ScottKnot sure why it doesn't get pulled in though.07:04
jussio/07:22
Tm_TScottK: ahha07:47
Tm_Tdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-runtime-data_4%3a4.9.0-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1_all.deb (--install): trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/kde4/imports/org/kde/runnermodel/qmldir', which is also in package plasma-active 2.0+git2012021101-0ubuntu4~ppa307:47
Tm_Twhen trying to install it manually07:48
Tm_TI assume plasma-active isn't supported, so conflicts with it is "my bad"?07:49
ScottKHmmm.07:51
* ScottK looks07:51
ScottKNo it is.  That's a legit bug.07:51
ScottKRiddell: ^^^07:52
ScottK(he uploaded it, hopefully he'll be awake soon to fix since I really need to go to sleep)07:52
Tm_TScottK: thanks for help on tracing this (:08:20
Riddellyeah that should be fixed08:34
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1032541] Panel autohide doesn't work any more @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1032541 (by Uqbar)09:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1032541 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Panel autohide doesn't work any more" [Undecided,New]09:00
RiddellQuintasan_: have you tried fcitx?09:55
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Riddellwhee http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.911:50
apoljtechidna: JontheEchidna: The reason for the warnings is the KExtendableItemDelegate11:54
apolit uses those roles during ::sizeHint11:55
jtechidnaaah11:58
jtechidnaapol: oh, there's also the ActiveRole, which shows when a resource is involved in an active transaction so the delegate can show a progress bar.11:59
apoljtechidna: why do you even need to call KExtendableItemDelegate::sizeHint(option, index)?11:59
apolwait, patch coming12:01
BluesKajHey all12:30
apoljtechidna: well, the thing is that QStyledItemDelegate is requesting these roles12:38
apoljtechidna: then those were being reported as empty by ::data12:38
apoljtechidna: so QStyledItemDelegate was printing plenty of empty text12:39
apolwhich is something really ugly, honestly :P12:39
jtechidnaI see12:39
apoljtechidna: I'll do a quick hack for the moment so that those are not returned, but I think you should fix that...12:39
apolthe UI will be faster too12:39
jtechidnaso the delegate is requesting random empty roles?12:42
apoljtechidna: http://paste.opensuse.org/5480110912:42
apoltry this12:42
apolnot random, but the standard12:42
jtechidnaand it shouldn't be requesting the standard roles?12:43
apolfor the text, you use custom roles instead of the standard Qt::DisplayRole and so12:43
apolwell12:43
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apolit's not very interesting to have the UI painting empty data12:43
apoljtechidna: please check the patch out ;)12:43
jtechidnawow12:46
jtechidnahaha12:46
apolyes12:46
jtechidnaso even though I'm doing custom painting, it's still painting the normal delegate under?12:46
apolyes12:47
apolbecause you call KExtendedBlah::paint who calls QStyledItemDelegate::paint12:47
apoland this one does that12:47
jtechidnaapol: so the solution is to just not call that since I'm doing all the painting manually, yes?12:49
apoljtechidna: well, I've tried to do that, then there's the extended part of the delegate that isn't painted12:49
jtechidnaoh, hm12:49
apoljtechidna: I'll merge the split branch ok?12:49
jtechidnaapol: Oh, I forgot to tell you, but that branch makes the Muon Package Manager lose some actions in the toolbar/menus12:50
jtechidnaapol_: lose connection?12:52
apolnope12:53
apolI opened the laptop :P12:53
apoljtechidna: oh ok12:54
apolI'll look into this now12:54
apoljtechidna: can you tell me which?12:54
jtechidnauuh, sec. gotta compile that branch now12:54
apolthanks a lot :P12:55
apoluh12:56
apolI get the warnings too12:56
jtechidnafor MPM: http://paste.kde.org/527732/12:57
jtechidnaand for the update manager: http://paste.kde.org/527738/12:57
apolok great12:57
apolI'll go have lunch and fix it later12:58
apoljtechidna: any other thing? :P12:58
jtechidnaapol: openMarkings, saveMarkings, and that setActions warning for muon-installer12:58
jtechidnabut I haven't noticed anything else that's broken12:58
apolok13:01
apolthanks13:01
tsdgeosagateau: can you please fix homerun Messages.sh ?13:44
apoljtechidna: i think it's fixed now13:48
apoljtechidna: I'll merge ok?13:48
Tm_TRiddell: anything I can help test-wise on proceeding with the dependency/file conflict that was discussed this morning?13:53
agateautsdgeos: on my todo13:55
shadeslayerScottK: I've heard about that somewhere, will look into it today :)13:56
apachelogger_9.8 GiB (98.07%) of 10.0 GiB14:02
apachelogger_we should clean up backports soonishy14:02
apachelogger_OTOH we only have oneiric and precise backports in there, so perhaps we need to request a limit bump14:03
apachelogger_that is pretty close for 2 releases, if 4.10 grows in icons just a bit we hit the limit with quantal+precise14:04
RiddellTm_T: I added a conflicts now14:07
Riddellapachelogger_: I think we should just delete oneiric, that's what we normally do14:07
apachelogger_*shrug*14:08
apachelogger_IMHO it is nice to have them available for 2 stables14:08
apachelogger_e.g. if precise does not work for someone they can continue to use oneiric with not entirely dated KDE until precise does or quantal gets released14:08
ScottKshadeslayer: Look at configure from the last kdenetwork upload for a start.14:12
ScottKThanks.14:12
jtechidnaapol: go ahead14:16
jtechidna(sorry, I had an apointment I forgot about until the last minute)14:16
apolno worries14:18
utu-sanno fix yet for oxygen-cursor-theme?14:22
utu-sanupdate-alternatives: using /etc/X11/cursors/oxy-white.theme to provide /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme (x-cursor-theme) in auto mode14:22
utu-sanupdate-alternatives: error: error creating symbolic link `/usr/share/icons/default/index.theme.dpkg-tmp': No such file or directory14:23
utu-sandaily build manifest - oxygen-cursor-theme0.0.2012-06-kde4.8-2ubuntu114:23
Riddellutu-san: now that's a stange one14:27
utu-sanI got this errors since yesterday, and I have to force install kde-workspace-data to complete install14:29
utu-sanat least have someone take a look and maybe bump the version to 4.9 as well for consistency?14:29
debfxutu-san: please open a bug report about that, preferably from apport14:30
Riddellag hah, now default/ directory in the update debfx did to oxygen-cursor-theme14:31
utu-saneverything seems working ok but apt-get is alwasy complaining when it tries to set up the incomplete install14:31
Riddellutu-san: sudo mkdir /usr/share/icons/default  is the workaround14:32
utu-sanRiddell: ok let me try14:32
Riddelldebfx: easy enough fix, debian/dirs should be debian/oxygen-cursor-theme.dirs, I'll test and upload14:33
utu-sanRiddell: you are the man.  thanks a lot14:34
utu-sanRiddell: it's really strange that I'm the only one affected?14:37
RiddellvHanda: do you have an opinion on this? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-August/006330.html14:37
Riddellutu-san: nah I've seen it14:37
vHandaRiddell: yeah, this probably slipped passed us14:38
vHandathough I'm not sure where the symbol is being used14:38
vHandalemme see14:38
vHandaRiddell: I'm confused, who need the nmm:albumArtist ?14:39
vHanda*needs14:40
RiddellvHanda: I don't now, it just got posted to our mailing list14:40
debfxRiddell: good catch, interestingly dpkg keeps /usr/share/icons/default in my upgrade tests14:40
RiddellvHanda: but that's a common enough tag to have in mp3 files, seems reasonable to index it14:41
vHandayes, but the indexer code is in strigi and that doesn't have anything to do with kdelibs or sdo14:42
vHandaso I'm not sure how/why that person is getting the error14:43
vHandait can't be while compiling kdelibs14:43
RiddellvHanda: oh the thread doesn't have anything to do with the patch request14:45
Riddellthe patch request was just posted randomly to it14:45
* debfx has a new favorite unicode symbol: smiling cat face with heart-shaped eyes14:53
debfx😻14:53
vHandaRiddell: I'm sorry, I'm still fairly confused.14:54
Riddelldebfx: not in my font alas14:58
jtechidnaThey should get the Canonical font guy on that right away :P14:58
RiddellvHanda: a user posted that to the list as a proposed patch we apply, that's about all there is to it14:59
debfxweird, I thought fontconfig falls back to another font if the current one doesn't have the symbol14:59
vHandaahhh15:00
vHandaI thought they were some linker errors or something15:00
Riddelldebfx: presumably none of my fonts have smiling cat face with heart-shaped eyes15:00
RiddellvHanda: no ignore that stuff15:00
Riddellseparate topic15:00
vHandaRiddell: I actually need to bring up the discussion of nmm:albumArtist on the mailing list15:01
vHandasome people aren't going to like it15:01
vHandabut it needs to be discussed15:01
vHandabut go ahead, ship it15:01
vHandayou don't even need to recompile kdelibs15:01
vHandathe new symbol doesn't matter15:01
Riddelljtechidna: canonical font guy is currently dossing around central europe avoiding doing much15:03
ScottKRiddell: If you were using our default IRC client it'd have displayed fine.15:04
Riddelloh it could well be a problem with my server, it doesn't do unicode right enough15:04
Riddellthe server is owned by the canonical font guy, this might be ironic I'm not sure15:04
agateautsdgeos: how can I test Messages.sh by hand?15:11
tsdgeosreading my bloc15:11
tsdgeos-c+g15:11
Riddellagateau: run extract-messages.sh ?15:12
agateautsdgeos: ah, I read the techbase doc, my bad :)15:12
agateauRiddell: where is it to be found?15:13
Riddellagateau: pkg-kde-tools15:13
tsdgeosagateau: i'm pretty sure it's documented there too15:13
tsdgeoshttp://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Localization/i18n_Build_Systems#Extracting_and_merging_messages15:13
tsdgeos Messages.sh, which is invoked by a script called extract-messages.sh15:13
agateauyes I saw that (proof: last edits are from me), but it misses the place where one can get extract-messages.sh15:14
tsdgeosagateau: lxr.kde.org to the rescue?15:17
tsdgeoshmm15:17
tsdgeosdoesn't work as well as i though15:18
agateauyep :/15:18
tsdgeosl10n-kde/scripts15:18
agateauthanks, going to add a link to it in the docs15:18
agateaufound it in l10n-kde4/scripts, yeah15:19
tsdgeosagateau: http://tsdgeos.blogspot.com.es/2010/08/how-to-run-messagessh-file-to-create.html15:19
agateautsdgeos: ok, updating the doc now15:22
tsdgeosnote 15:22
tsdgeosthat there's no need for you to run it15:23
tsdgeosscripty does it15:23
agateauyes, but I don't like to commit blindly15:23
tsdgeosand your Messages.sh should be simple enough15:23
tsdgeosif it gets complicated15:23
tsdgeosbad :D15:23
agateauI am going to need to extract strings from a rc file15:24
tsdgeoshow do you inject them back?15:26
tsdgeosor it's a ui.rc file?15:27
agateauit's not done yet15:32
agateauupdated the doc15:32
* ScottK is officially confused by the kalzium FTBFS on arm*15:33
RiddellScottK: maybe a lack of avogadro?15:34
ScottKRiddell: 4.8.90 built and it didn't have it either.16:08
ScottKI compared the build logs and I can't figure anything. I didn't diff the package though.16:09
Riddellhum16:21
RiddellScottK: oh it's just the version no libscience.so.4.9.0 vs libscience.so.4.8.016:28
ScottKSo why just on arm*?16:28
Riddellthe others built before the new kdelibs I'd guess16:29
ScottKOh, that'd do it.16:29
Riddelldo you want to fix or shall I?16:30
ScottKPlease go ahead.16:38
shadeslayerScottK: I hope you weren't looking at build logs manuall17:12
shadeslayer*manually17:12
ScottKshadeslayer: In what context?17:13
shadeslayerbecause iirc me and yofel wrote a script for PN that prints out the cmake output for every package17:13
shadeslayerScottK: optional build deps17:13
yofeldidn't debfx integrate that into his pkg status website generation script?17:13
ScottKWhat I was doing was watching it scroll by when I was building 4.8.5.  That got me to look at a few packages and write the email.17:13
shadeslayerah ok17:13
shadeslayeryofel: dunno17:13
yofeliirc he added something similiar at least17:14
ScottKQuintasan_: Are you fixing kimpanel in Quantal?17:14
debfxyes!17:14
debfxhttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~debfx/+junk/kubuntu-automation/view/head:/cmake-ignore.json17:14
shadeslayerdebfx: is that automagically generated?17:14
debfxshadeslayer: no, it's a list of exceptions17:15
shadeslayerah ok17:15
ScottKOkular in that list is fixed.17:15
debfxi.e. dependencies we don't use on purpose17:15
shadeslayerhmm17:17
shadeslayer [kubuntu-dev] a11y - ditch kaccessible: TODO17:17
ScottKAny idea why we don't use polkit-qt for pykde4?17:17
RiddellScottK: at some point, it didn't compile17:18
ScottKOK.17:18
RiddellScottK: in favour of ati17:18
ScottKdebfx: kdenetwork has optional build-deps that we don't use and isn't on that list.17:18
debfxScottK: do we really want to use chmlib? it has a bad security record and is not very maintained17:18
ScottKThere's user demand for it.17:19
ScottKI see two CVEs in 5 years.  That's not horrible.17:20
snelehi guys. where can I find picture of kubuntu logo (kubuntu letters+logo) without backround?17:23
jocartersnele: wikipedia17:23
debfxScottK: also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chmlib/+bug/236113/comments/217:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 236113 in chmlib (Ubuntu) "main inclusion report for chmlib" [Undecided,Invalid]17:24
jocartersnele: that's where I usually find all my logos these days, at least :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kubuntu-logo-lucid.svg17:24
snelejocarter: thank you :)17:24
shadeslayerScottK: basically, adding tp-qt to kdenetwork gives krdc the ability to use telepathy tubes17:25
shadeslayeri.e. desktop sharing using your contacts in KDE Telepathy17:25
ScottKDo we want that?17:25
shadeslayerupstream says it's stable17:25
shadeslayerneeds a bit of testing however17:26
shadeslayerScottK: seems reasonable to me, I've tested it before from George's PPA17:27
shadeslayerand it worked fine17:27
ScottKdebfx: It does look a bit dead upstream.17:27
debfxScottK: kdenetwork seems to be the only package where the cmake ignore file is outdated17:55
ScottKOK.17:57
shadeslayersnele: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuArtwork17:58
sneleshadeslayer: thank you! 17:59
shadeslayersnele: you're welcome :)17:59
Riddellsnele: what's it for?18:00
sneleRiddell: I found really easy way to make chromium/chrome theme (to match my colour scheme). I will add kubuntu branding at the bottom right corner18:01
RiddellI think rekonq just needs themes to make it popular :)18:03
ScottKSecurity support for Qtwebkit would be nice too.18:04
ScottKWho's the KDE maintainer for Okular?18:04
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debfxScottK: afaik tsdgeos18:08
ScottKThanks.18:08
sneleRiddell, all: I think it looks nice, simple and well integrated: http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1W/UK/1cvGHdWA/snapshot77.png18:08
snelehttp://www.dodaj.rs/f/1G/C2/aniO5Pp/snapshot80.png18:09
sneleof course it can be done for oxygen theme and default colour scheme :)18:09
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Daskreechanyone minds me adding the kubuntu 4.9 blog to the #kubuntu topic ?19:47
shadeslayerDaskreech: kubuntu 4.9 blog?19:55
Daskreechthat's it available19:55
Daskreechon kubuntu.org19:55
shadeslayeroh, you meant from kubuntu.org19:55
shadeslayerDaskreech: please go ahead19:55
shadeslayerhmm .. maybe the installer should have a checkbox that says "Enroll me in a faster KDE update/backport cycle"19:56
shadeslayerand then if the user checks that, the installer add's the PPA19:57
shadeslayerRiddell: ^ random thought19:57
micahgshadeslayer: enabling PPAs from the archive is a no-no19:58
shadeslayernot from the archive, from the installer19:58
micahgshadeslayer: installer is in the archive :P19:58
shadeslayeroh .. right ...19:59
shadeslayermaybe a simple prompt after installing?19:59
shadeslayerlike we do for flash and codecs20:00
micahgthose are in multiverse20:01
micahg(codecs should be all in universe at this point I think)20:01
ScottKOr flash is in partner.20:01
ScottKWhich is technically not part of the Ubuntu archive, but it's certainly not a PPA.20:02
micahgScottK: no, it installs from multiverse, not partner20:02
micahgmultiverse happens to pull the tarball from partner...20:02
ScottKIsn't that the installer?20:02
ScottKYes, two stage process, but you still get there.20:03
micahgwell, no, you can get flash without partner enabled20:03
ScottKRight, but it's still code from outside the archive.20:04
micahgyeah20:04
shadeslayerhmm20:05
ScottKBut it's Flash.  If you're installing that, you're asking for trouble already.20:08
shadeslayerwhat the20:10
shadeslayerzsh-beta is older than zsh? 0.o20:10
micahgzsh 5.0 was released :), zsh-beta should be removed IMHO20:12
Daskreechshadeslayer: do I need to poke someone?20:13
shadeslayerDaskreech: for?20:13
shadeslayeroh, /topic updating?20:13
Daskreechtopic change ?20:13
shadeslayeridk who has rights on that channel20:13
DaskreechCan I set it somewheer and have it flagged?20:13
shadeslayerpossibly jussi can do that20:16
* shadeslayer can't remember how to find ops for a channel and for some reason chanserv help doesn't list it too20:17
shadeslayermicahg: I think zsh has a regression :P20:17
shadeslayerfor eg. it had a feature that when you typed 'a' and pressed the up arrow key, it completed to the last command that started with 'a'20:18
shadeslayerI can't reproduce it with zsh-beta20:18
ScottKqtmobility FTBFS fixed, btw.20:21
shadeslayerScottK: should I also enable gadu gadu? Or since we're dropping kopete, kill of any chances of using gadu gadu with kopete20:22
shadeslayer( re kdenetwork )20:22
ScottKGadu is already enabled, isn't it?20:23
ScottKWe're dropping it from the default install, not from the archive.20:23
shadeslayerdon't think so, lemme check again20:23
ScottKFor kdenetwork, my upload has the same stuff enabled that Debian did.20:24
Daskreechapachelogger_: ping20:24
shadeslayerScottK: http://paste.kde.org/528134/20:24
ScottKI'm guessing they didn't do telepathy on purpose, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't.20:24
Daskreechor jussi20:24
shadeslayerright20:24
Daskreechcan I get the topic in #kubuntu changed to "Official Kubuntu support | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Pastes: http://paste.kde.org | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IRC/Guidelines | Kmail users read this before upgrading: http://bit.ly/o841iy | 12.04 LTS http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-release | KDE 4.9 available http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.9"20:25
ScottKshadeslayer: I'd say add it or ask Quintasan_ .  IIRC gadu is big in Poland.20:25
shadeslayeryeah20:25
shadeslayerok this is weird20:25
shadeslayerScottK: my build log says gadu is not pulled in, build log from buildd says it's installed20:26
shadeslayerwhat the actual hell? 0.o20:26
shadeslayerso, it's not pulld in explicitly ( according to debian/control )20:28
shadeslayerbah, scratch taht20:28
shadeslayerwrong spelling of gadu20:28
shadeslayer*grumble* stupid VPS being ultra slow20:32
Daskreechor Riddell if you have time20:34
shadeslayerDaskreech: you'll probably have to wait till Monday20:41
Daskreechv_v20:41
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