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dougltrying to config new printer (samsung clp-320) under kubuntu 12.04 and there is no clp-320 any suggestions - trying clp-32500:08
douglnope that does not work00:13
dougldamn!00:21
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Daskreechdougl: Samsung printer?01:11
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douglDaskreech, yes01:50
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h00kLong time Ubuntu user...trying to get my google-talk set up with Kopete. I have the three options checked (use SSL, allow plaintext, and override [talk.google.com]), but I'm not able to get kopete to sign in with this account.02:17
h00kAny protips?02:17
h00k(yes, my password is right, it's a single-use password, so I know that's good.02:21
phunyguyCan anyone help me with KMyMoney? I am trying to get OFX transactions to import, and they match up with manual transactions, which is fine, however it seems to be using the cleared date of the transaction instead of what I set manually.02:32
phunyguyLike if I swipe my card on the 24th, and it clears on the 27th, the transaction date changes to the 27th when it matches.02:33
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h00khuh, just needed a restart. Kopete is now connecting.02:33
Daskreechh00k: strange02:33
h00kDaskreech: yeah...after an initial round of upgrades after installing02:33
h00kanyway. cool.02:33
Daskreechphunyguy: Ah Umm Hmm02:34
DaskreechI'm almost sure I've done something like this before02:34
phunyguyyeah, why the heck would I care about a cleared date.  I want to know when I made the transaction.02:34
phunyguyI can't find anything else that decently supports OFX import02:35
phunyguyGNUCash wont work either... I get no transactions with that one02:43
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Daskreechphunyguy: If you want you can hang out in #kmymoney and see if they have anything to say about it04:33
uglyoldbobim having a problem playing half-life on kubuntu, first is that half-life shows up on the middle of the screen and im seeing the top left corner of the screen04:38
uglyoldbobsecond is that keyboard input does not go to half-life04:39
uglyoldbobmouse works fine04:39
uglyoldbobok i set half-life resolution to the same as my desktop, now i just need the keyboard to work04:41
Daskreechwine?04:44
uglyoldbobwell i found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/91602704:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 916027 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "keyboard focus is broken in wine" [Undecided,Confirmed]04:46
uglyoldboblol04:47
Daskreechhow about checking in #winehq ?04:57
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uglyoldboboh so wine1.4 works with half-life but not starcraft 2, wine1.5 is the other way around05:02
uglyoldboboh boy05:02
uglyoldbobis there a way to manually give keyboard focus to a program (besides using the mouse) ?05:20
Phiscribewhat like alt tab?05:23
uglyoldbobit doesnt seem to work for wine + halflife05:30
uglyoldbobi managed to get keyboard input to work, but cant reproduce it now05:31
uglyoldbob(it was 10 mins ago when i got it to work, but without audio)05:31
uglyoldbobalt+tab doesnt acknowledge half-life has a window05:34
Phiscribeoh  your in wine, thats like another world, dunno about that05:34
uglyoldbobive even tried telling half-life to run in a window (and set it to less than the size of my desktop)05:35
p477t0nYo people05:59
uglyoldbobseems i needed to reactive the "allow the window manager to " options in wine06:19
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kaddihi, i have a backtrash where the symbols are missing and would like to install the dbg packages for that08:26
kaddihowever i can't seem to figure out which ones I needed08:26
kaddican someone help me identify what I need08:26
kaddihttp://pastebin.com/tsCGDucb08:27
kaddiamarok-dbg  is installed, but didn't help08:27
lordievaderGood morning08:28
livingdaylightgreetings08:46
livingdaylightbrowsing synaptic I don't see plasmoid-xbar. Does anyone know where I can find this kde global-menu, please?08:47
lordievaderlivingdaylight: Sorry, I'm not sure what you are looking for, could you describe it a bit more?08:48
livingdaylightlordievader: howdy lordie... Yes, it behaves much as Ubuntu's global menu, or as in Apple Mac's global menu for that matter. Integrating an apps file menu into the panel08:49
livingdaylightthis video shows it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpke-m4c8pk08:50
lordievaderlivingdaylight: Hey, that is kinda nice, let's see if I can find it.08:51
livingdaylightlordievader: yeah! :D08:51
livingdaylightI searched the widget tool and when I found the video synaptic, but don't see it in either. Perhaps its been discontinued?08:52
livingdaylightthat video seems to be going back kubuntu 09.0408:53
lordievaderlivingdaylight: Seems like it, yes.08:54
* livingdaylight sighs nvm :s08:54
livingdaylighta million weather widgets and the one useful one discontinued08:55
lordievaderlivingdaylight: A lot of forums are talking about bespin, not sure if that is a style.08:55
livingdaylighthrmm08:55
lordievaderlivingdaylight: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=8464008:56
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livingdaylightlordievader: thanks08:57
livingdaylightlordievader: https://launchpad.net/plasma-widget-menubar/ is this relevant ? Window Menu Widget08:58
lordievaderlivingdaylight: Isn't that just the menu-bar?08:59
livingdaylighti think that's a global menu!08:59
livingdaylightindeed09:00
livingdaylightits already in default widget list09:00
lordievaderlivingdaylight: Hey this might be something: http://kbhaskar.in/unity-in-kde/09:18
livingdaylightlordievader: brilliant, lets see09:19
livingdaylight"...And no I’m not talking about the unity among people of KDE or the developers or anything like that. " LoL09:19
lordievaderlivingdaylight: Hmm repo seems to be dead.09:20
livingdaylightahh...09:20
livingdaylightlordievader:" The ‘Window Menubar’ widget is just like the global menu in Unity." yes, that's the widget I found as well09:21
lordievaderlivingdaylight: Isn't that the one then?09:22
livingdaylighteven in ubuntu not all apps were yet integrated into global menu, but increasingly more so.09:22
livingdaylightlordievader: yes09:22
livingdaylightbut only integrates kde apps so far. Not even FF; still, its a start and a feature I like09:22
lordievaderlivingdaylight: FF seems to be integrated here...09:23
livingdaylightoh... should try again then09:23
lordievaderLooks kinda neat :)09:32
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livingdaylightlordievader: did you move your panel to the top? needs to to look right, no?09:50
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lordievaderlivingdaylight: Yes on the top it makes more sense to me.09:53
livingdaylightlordievader: yea, screenshot? :)10:00
livingdaylighthave to get comfortable with configuring in kde still, deleting and creating new panels10:00
lordievaderlivingdaylight: Just a second10:05
lordievader!paste10:07
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:07
lordievaderlivingdaylight: http://imagebin.org/22313510:07
livingdaylightlordievader: love it!10:12
lordievaderlivingdaylight: :-)10:13
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francuahello, is there a shortcut for terminal window in kde like in gnome( ctrl-alt-t) ?11:13
mydogsnameisrudyi use yakuake so all you need is f1211:18
mydogsnameisrudyyou can also go to custom short cuts and set it up francua11:24
francuaok thank you :)11:25
liamhi, any ETA for kde 4.9?11:26
zetherooI installed the plasma desktop on my Ubuntu 12.04 machine and am wondering where the plasma wallpapers are stored11:51
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phoenix_firebrdhello everyone12:11
mydogsnameisrudymorning phoenix_firebrd12:12
phoenix_firebrdmydogsnameisrudy: hi12:13
mydogsnameisrudywhat you working on phoenix_firebrd12:14
phoenix_firebrdmydogsnameisrudy: dragon player 3 ui12:14
mydogsnameisrudyhmmm that is a game?12:15
phoenix_firebrdmydogsnameisrudy:  dragon player is the default video player in kubuntu12:15
mydogsnameisrudyah ya ok so what are you doing12:15
phoenix_firebrdmydogsnameisrudy: designing its user interface12:16
mydogsnameisrudyok im using ver2 i see hmmm12:17
phoenix_firebrdmydogsnameisrudy: ya, i am working on the upcoming version12:18
cwsoft안녕하세요12:19
cwsofthello?12:20
mydogsnameisrudyhmm not sure what that is12:20
mydogsnameisrudyhello12:20
cwsoftmy name is sungsu park12:20
cwsoftI'm from korea12:20
mydogsnameisrudyah nice to meet you cwsoft12:20
cwsoftnice meet you too12:20
cwsoftmy homepage is http://cwsoft.net I'm newbie web programmer12:21
mydogsnameisrudyi dont understand korean so ;)12:23
cwsofthm......12:23
darthanubisanyone upgrade to kde 4.9?12:28
darthanubisdoes your amarok still work?12:28
BluesKajHey all12:30
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: hi12:30
OerHeksHeya BluesKaj12:30
mydogsnameisrudymorning BluesKaj12:30
BluesKajhi phoenix_firebrd , OerHeks, mydogsnameisrudy12:30
BluesKajkde 4.9 seems to be relatively stable here , so far on 12.1012:33
BluesKajupgraded the 12.04 install to 4,9 and all seems fine on it too12:34
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: kde 4.9 beta 2 or kde 4.9  final in 12.04?12:38
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, it's in the backports , official12:40
stanley_robertsoh all12:42
stanley_robertsohii all12:42
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: yofel said that there was a versioning bug its versioned as kde 4.8 , did it show up in upgrade?12:43
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yofelphoenix_firebrd: that's fixed12:44
phoenix_firebrdyofel: yesterday?12:44
yofelphoenix_firebrd: today12:45
yofeland it wasn't the package versions that were broken, but the libs. (i.e. kde-workspace 4.9.0 shipping liboxygenstyle.so.4.8.0)12:45
phoenix_firebrdyofel: oh, then me going for the update12:46
phoenix_firebrdyofel: should i disable the beta backports?12:47
yofelthose shouldn't matter, but if you don't want beta stuff disable it as we might put other things in there too sometime12:47
BluesKajyeah , big update/upgrade available here , just running it now12:47
phoenix_firebrdok, i better disable the beta backports12:51
o0Tao0oHello World!  :p12:54
* o0Tao0o is snubbed by the world.. again...12:55
mydogsnameisrudyhello o0Tao0o12:55
o0Tao0o:D12:55
o0Tao0ohiya12:55
BluesKajo0Tao0o, the kubuntu world says hello to you ...have a little patience12:55
o0Tao0olol, ha don't be so serious... It was humour.. oh well12:56
BluesKajo0Tao0o,  yes after spending a little time with us you'll see what I mean :)12:59
o0Tao0ook, point taken.  I 'now' notice the channel header (#kubuntu-offtopic)...  so perhaps this was not the best place for humour anyway. hehe...  i understand your response now  :s13:01
BluesKajo0Tao0o, we get ppl coming and going in here and if they don't get a response within 30 secs or so , they leave ... instant gratification and all that ..ppl here are also busy doing other things , mostly13:03
o0Tao0ogotcha :)13:03
mydogsnameisrudyBluesKaj:  is retired has nothing to do ;)13:04
BluesKajmydogsnameisrudy, ahem ... arent you retired too :)13:04
mydogsnameisrudyshhhhhh13:05
o0Tao0olol...  Seriously tho.. noobitus is a serious problem13:05
BluesKajo0Tao0o, noobitus?13:06
BluesKajok , got it ...13:07
mydogsnameisrudybeing noob  = noobitus13:07
BluesKajI'm still on my first cup o' coffee . :_)13:07
o0Tao0oBluesKaj:  yes... caused by a daily onslaught of irritated, noobs asking silly questions.  It eventually has deep psychological effects13:08
BluesKajo0Tao0o, yes , we see that a lot , and it makes me think we have a whole generation that feels entitled to instant answers13:09
mydogsnameisrudycant think for themself and cant read ...13:10
schninkel... and definitely can't write ! (:trollface)13:10
BluesKajmydogsnameisrudy, they've spoonfed by their politically correct parents to think that way13:10
* mydogsnameisrudy is not politcally correct ;)13:11
* schninkel is not pilositycally correct13:11
BluesKajmydogsnameisrudy, the parents think they are13:11
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o0Tao0oomg... the whole room is suffering from it  lol  :O13:14
BluesKajthen we have lurkers who join , but never participate13:16
o0Tao0onot lurkitus too!!  hmm, i think i better get some medical help in here  :/13:18
Pici!offtopic13:19
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!13:19
BluesKajthere it is ..our friendly reminder of the day :)13:19
* o0Tao0o considers himself told.13:20
mydogsnameisrudyseems we were talking about channel official code of conduct13:20
PiciThese aren't support questions though.  Feel free to talk about it in #kubuntu-offtopic13:20
mydogsnameisrudyok thank you13:20
mydogsnameisrudythe silence is deafening13:25
o0Tao0oSILENCE YOU!13:26
sashoтук да има българи случайно13:31
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BluesKaj!ru | sasho13:37
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lordievaderGood afternoon everyone13:37
dkeenaghano/13:37
BluesKajhi lordievader ..... I"m fine , how're you ? :)13:39
lordievaderHey BluesKaj, I'm doing good :)13:39
phoenix_firebrdbbl14:02
munnyhi all14:04
mydogsnameisrudyhello munny14:05
munnywith kde 4.9 anyone has crash if you try to open systemsettings/plasma settings?14:05
mydogsnameisrudyhmmm BluesKaj has been running it with no problems maybe he will jump in here14:06
BluesKajmunny, have you run an update/upgrade yet today , there's a fix in the repositories14:07
munnyBluesKaj: i try to update justo now14:09
munnyBluesKaj: i've 197 packages update.... i think i must run upgrade! ;)14:11
BluesKajmunny, yes :)14:12
BluesKajBRB , Have to upgrade 12.04 on the other drive14:16
dougltrying to config new printer (samsung clp-320) under kubuntu 12.04 and there is no clp-320 so I went out on the net and got/found one and installed printer but it does not print to my printer that is on my windows server - any suggestions?14:27
douglall other machine print to the printer shared on windows xp but the print job on the 12.04 machine shows up in the print queue but never goes to the windows machine14:28
hazamonzo_Hey folks. I know there is an imagebin plasma desktop widget but what about one to upload youtube videos easily?14:30
hazamonzo_Imagebin / pastebin14:30
decciHi Guys14:40
decciI have OpenLDAP installed on Ubuntu. Am Unable to connect to LDAP server. How can I fix this?14:40
deccildap_sasl_bind(SIMPLE): Can't contact LDAP server (-1)14:41
BluesKajo0Tao0o, any luck with the scripting or are they uneditbles that run off commands?14:47
munnyBluesKaj: i just upgraded but still crash14:49
o0Tao0oBluesKaj: yeah.  thanks.  I get it now i think :)14:49
BluesKajhttp://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Scripts/Scripting_guide , o0Tao0o here ?14:50
BluesKajo0Tao0o, I'm curious about scripting , never relly learned much about it , it's an empty file in my computer knowledge :)14:52
BluesKajbase14:52
o0Tao0oBluesKaj: well that looks like a better link. :D    I just needed to know if it wasw possible and how.  Your first link gave me enough to work with ;)14:52
BluesKajok good14:52
Peace-BluesKaj: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/FFmpeg+Peace+Service+Menu++%28Back+Pain%29?content=15310914:53
munnyBluesKaj: i' removed dekorator and smaragd packages and systemsettings works now... this is a bug?14:57
munnyor packages must be updated?14:57
douglanyone in that has knowlege/experience... trying to get my 12.04 machine to print to my sansung clp-320 via samba connected to my windows xp machine with not much luck - print job spools to local queue on 12.04 and sits there for a while then gets held and never ends up in the queue on my windows box...15:02
douglsamba is config'd correctly - 12.04 prints to cx5000 on xp machine via samba perfectly.15:03
douglhelp :)_15:03
Peace-mm15:04
dougl?15:04
* dougl is even trolling for a sounding board - all out of guesses.15:05
Peace-http://localhost:631/ dougl15:05
douglcups 1.5.315:06
Peace-dougl: have you tried to configure all the stuff for your printer in that page ?15:08
douglI have 3 instances of the printer installed but no matter what printer I print from it goes to the same queue - normal?15:08
BluesKajmunny, not sure if it's applicable to your situation ..there was a bug associated with system settings , but the fix is in the repos15:09
douglPeace-, no... just installed it the same way I installed the cx5000 served up on the windows box15:09
Peace-dougl:  i would give it a try15:09
douglthanks15:09
mck182Riddell: hey, I have a problem while trying to update to KDE 4.9 from backports in 12.04, complains about kdelibs5 -- http://paste.kde.org/527726/15:10
mck182am I missing something?15:10
Riddellmck182: kdelibs5 no longer exists in 4.9, what are you doing to upgrade?15:12
mck182basically selecting all packages and doing "upgrade" ;)15:12
mck182all /upgradable/ packages15:12
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Peace-sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade15:12
Peace-=> never failed15:12
mck182oh wait, there's a different upgrade for kdelibs515:13
mck182I think I don't have the latest kde updates from stable15:13
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douglPeace-, got it, kinda thanks ...15:21
douglhtml interface showed error in the name of the printer being served up but now it prints double spaced... any thots on that15:21
douglwhen I print to my samsung clp320 I get 2 images horizontally and printed every other line - any suggestions?15:50
D4mG1rlbarjavel.freenode.net :PONG to16:05
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dcorbin_wrkSince a recent upgrade to 12.04, I find X gets into a "mode" where its' consuming 100% of 1 CPU.  How can I track down the cause of this behavior?17:16
dcorbin_wrk(top says 100% for Xorg)17:16
douglhow do I reset/reinstall cups in all it's default glory17:21
dougl?17:21
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BluesKajdougl, probly just sudo apt-get install cups , if you removed it17:30
BluesKajdougl, otherwise it's , sudo apt-get install --reinstall cups17:31
douglBluesKaj, removing it is the trick... that is what I dont know how to do - How to delete cups and all its 'fluff'?17:31
BluesKajdougl, sudo apt-get purge cups17:32
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douglBluesKaj, :) thanks, you spoil me.17:33
BluesKajif it leaves any cups libs or config file behind that will show up inn the konsole , just run the command again and that should get rid of it all.17:35
douglk17:38
douglthanks BluesKaj17:38
drostieWhat has happened as far as Canonical disowning Kubuntu and the Council elections and the rest of that uncertainty?17:38
BluesKajKubuntu is now supported by Blue Systems , they hired one of the devs to help support it , drostie17:40
drostieBluesKaj: is Blue Systems going to sell support to make a revenue stream out of it like Canonical did?17:40
DarthFrogdrostie: I don't think that is known yet.17:41
BluesKajdrostie, don't know ..that remains to be seen17:41
DarthFrogdrostie: Canonical still supports Kubuntu, as a community-driven derivative.  It's not been abandoned, just relegated back to the status it used to have, along with the others (Xubuntu, Lubuntu).17:43
DarthFrogSo I imagine that Canonical regards Blue Systems supporting Kubuntu as part of the community support/development.17:43
drostieDarthFrog: I think I missed whatever you said immediately prior.17:45
BluesKajdrostie, http://blue-systems.com/17:46
drostieBluesKaj: ooh yay, the Blue Systems page is no longer a black screen of linkdeath. :D17:49
drostieBluesKaj: but still won't sell me a KDE T-shirt. :<17:50
DarthFrogDo they sell shirts?17:50
BluesKajI think Kubuntu.org has some on their site17:51
chachanhow long could it take to have 4.9 on stable?17:51
DarthFrogchachan: 4.9 is in backports, I'm running right now.17:53
chachanDarthFrog, well, I mean, not in backports :)17:53
DarthFrogchachan: Then you'll have to wait till Quantal, probably.17:53
DarthFrogchachan: Don't forget, Precise is a LTS.17:54
DarthFrogi.e. you don't screw up stable. :-)17:54
chachanhm, well, it's just two months...17:54
chachanyes, I wouldn't like to add backports17:54
chachanor maybe I'll try :)17:55
douglbummer - CUPS is messed now... cant print to either printer now, cups (http://localhost:631/printers/CLP-320splc) says17:56
douglPrint Test Page CLP-320splc Error17:56
douglUnable to print test page:17:56
dougl    No such file or directory17:56
FloodBotK1dougl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:57
douglsorry.17:57
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frank___Hi Guys, i have at 4.9 heavy CPU load from Virtuoso. Is there a workaroud ?18:06
frank___No one any ideas ?18:10
livingdaylight_hi18:15
livingdaylight_trying to put iso on usb using unetbootin. it detects sdc but says I need to mount it to a mountpoint? I don't recall ever needing to do that on other distros and not sure what it actually means. USB has been detected; which I understand as having been mounted. Can someone explain, please??18:17
pbwhere do you find the settings for  your DE's18:38
pbeh nvm I remembered.18:38
pbk  now where do you find the settings for enabling different task bars for each screen. is that the task bar settings?18:39
sprashHi. I'm using kubuntu for the first time in years.18:40
Marizzhow can i see what's taking a lot of CPU/memory on kde?18:41
pbcommand Top18:42
douglafter purging cups and reinstalling I get the error There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-not-found' trying to print to my samba shared (win xp) printer - any suggestions?18:43
sprashYou should definitely package Calligra office suite instead of libre office.18:43
sprashAlso the most important plasmoid is missing: a transparent console.18:44
pbto answere my own questions. Taskbar settings18:53
pbcan you add "split window" like in dolphin to natulus?18:55
pbdoes natulus have this option allready?18:55
pbor can you enable visible menu bar in dolphin?18:55
DarthFrogpb: htop is much better than top.19:00
pbwhat is that friend?19:00
bazhang!info htop | pb19:00
ubottupb: htop (source: htop): interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (precise), package size 64 kB, installed size 180 kB19:00
pbapt-get install Htop?19:01
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Daskreechpb: Yes19:01
Guest39817salve19:01
pbill give it a look.. ty19:01
Daskreechpb: though F3 is a lot faste19:01
Daskreech!it19:01
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)19:01
Daskreechs/faste/faster19:02
pb!info F3 | pb19:02
ubottupb: Package F3 does not exist in precise19:03
Daskreechpb: I mean in dolphin. Press F319:03
pbyea figured that after i typed it. hah19:03
pbdoes f3 work for all file managers?19:03
livingdaylighthi Daskreech19:03
Daskreechhi livingdaylight19:04
Daskreechpb: No idea :-)19:04
livingdaylightDaskreech, you know #237 you posted on winehq; I don't see it any more and issue isn't resolved19:05
pbhtop in software center is system processe viewer.19:06
Daskreechlivingdaylight: How did you check?19:06
pboh you were talking about when I said top command earlier.  hah.19:07
Daskreechpb: it's a replacement for top which is a system process viewer19:07
pbyour right it is better.19:07
livingdaylightDaskreech, I don't see #237 on their board. I also tried running winetricks vcrun6 again, and still get the same error. Looks like their still using the enu link19:07
Daskreechpb: Isn'tit??!! :)19:07
Daskreechlivingdaylight: Did you download the new script from the repo?19:08
livingdaylightDaskreech, no, didn't know I had to download somehting new. just ran the command as usual19:09
Daskreechlivingdaylight: Right ... but ... you didn't think they would reach in to your computer and tamper with your files do you?19:10
livingdaylightDaskreech, I don't know how it works. I thought they had to change something at their end and running the command would link to the new link19:12
Daskreechlivingdaylight: ah that would be good but I think that wouldn't work for this file19:12
Daskreechlivingdaylight: The point for that file is that there is no legal way for them to be a middle person to deliver it19:14
* livingdaylight is confused19:14
pbhmm wierd I cant find Naut anywhere on my kde.. even tho I was just running it a minute ago19:15
livingdaylightwhat is the fix? and why is 237 no longer on their list?19:15
Daskreechlivingdaylight: They fix it in the code. Next time that you update you get the new code with the fix19:17
livingdaylightDaskreech, right, so if I have a wine ppa, then I'd get the update before the next buntu release, presuming they've fixed it in the code already19:18
Daskreechlivingdaylight: eeeeeh19:18
Daskreechlivingdaylight: Couple of steps before that happens :)19:18
Daskreechbut yeah I'd expect you'd get an update soon19:18
livingdaylightDaskreech, have they posted a fix in the meantime, in terms fo a script?19:19
livingdaylightstill don't understand why your post #237 is not listed any longer19:20
Daskreechlivingdaylight: Probably not.19:20
Daskreechpb: Nautilus ?19:20
pbyea. its np tho19:20
CombatjuanCan someone tell me if I'm crazy?  If I do Alt-F2, 'echo $TERM > ~/out.txt" and look at out.txt, it says xterm.  Did the "terminal" of the krunner command change recently?19:22
Daskreechlivingdaylight: They will post a fix to the code that they tested and file the bug as resolved. Someone will review it and flip the bug to closed. Someone will take the update and package it then drop it in a ppa which you will get19:22
CombatjuanI had some scripts that were relying on it not being 'xterm' (which is kind of crummy), but am I crazy to think that this maybe changed in the past few weeks?19:22
Daskreechcould take a day or two from them putting the bug as resolved to you getting it19:22
Daskreechor a few hours.. depends19:22
DaskreechCombatjuan: That depends. Does echo $TERM do something different in konsole?19:23
Combatjuankonsole also says it's xterm19:23
CombatjuanIt used to as well.  I used to be able to check $TERM and figure out if I was in konsole or Alt-F2.  If the latter, I'd open a new konsole session, if the former, I'd open a tab.  But that doesn't work anymore.19:24
DaskreechCombatjuan: well switch it there19:24
CombatjuanYou mean make konsole not be $TERM=xterm?19:24
Daskreechsure19:25
CombatjuanI thought various tools (vi in particular?) checked the $TERM variable for xtermness to enable features.  So I'd hate to change that.19:25
Daskreechpb: alt+F2 -> nautilus  ?19:25
pbthere it goes.. ty Daskreech19:27
DaskreechTada!19:27
pbits magic!19:28
DaskreechCombatjuan: what was the output for alt+F2 before ?19:28
CombatjuanI don't recall.  )-8  Maybe the empy string?19:29
DaskreechHmm that would be strange19:29
CombatjuanIt looks like my env is the same between the two except for WINDOWID (not useful), SHELL_SESSION_ID (not useful), PWD (not quite), KONSOLE_DBUS_SESSION (nope), and _ (might work?)19:30
CombatjuanYeah, using "$_ = /usr/bin/krunner" works.  I have no doubt that's a hack, but I'll take it.19:33
DaskreechCombatjuan: no I think that's working as intended19:34
CombatjuanOh good.19:34
DarthFroghttp://www.thepowerbase.com/2012/08/how-to-install-kde-4-9-available-immediately-for-kubuntu/19:42
BluesKajDarthFrog, wonder what  the -y means in the backport deb apt-add command means ?19:54
DarthFrogProbably to answer Yes to the "Add Key?" question.19:54
DarthFrogWould be my guess.19:54
* BluesKaj getting repititious in my old age19:55
BluesKajok , just never seen it before19:55
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DaskreechBluesKaj: alt+f2 -> man:/apt-add-repository19:58
DarthFrogDoesnt' work19:58
Daskreechbecause I can't spell19:59
DarthFrogNor is there anything relevant from "apt-add-repository -?"19:59
Daskreechman:/add-apt-repository20:00
DaskreechI'm a dofus :)20:00
DarthFrogThat works.  And it is to answer Yes. :-)20:00
DarthFrogBut a good looking doofus. :-)20:00
DaskreechThe kamera:/ doesn't lie20:00
DarthFrogYet "man apt-add-repository" says there's no man page.20:01
BluesKajDaskreech, no matter , I already have the backport and key and KDe 4.9 installed ...was just curious about what the -y meant in apt-add command, "-y, --yes Assume yes to all queries"20:02
DaskreechBluesKaj: yep20:04
Daskreechbetter than trying to figure out yes20:05
BluesKajyes sounds dangerous though20:05
Daskreechwhich is why it's an option :)20:06
Daskreechthough I have seen people alias it as the default20:06
Daskreechwhich is particularly dangerous20:06
DarthFrogBluesKaj:  As usual, if you want to shoot yourself in the foot, Linux will hand you the gun. :-)20:06
DarthFrogIf you want to use the command line, you should know what you're doing.  Or be looking forward to learning a lot of Linux to correct the problems you cause. :-)20:07
DaskreechDarthFrog: But you have to compile it first20:07
DarthFrogDaskreech: Oh, that's so old school. :-)  I've not had to compile anything manually for a very long time.20:08
* Daskreech does look forward to fixing his problems ^_^20:08
DaskreechDarthFrog: How do you get the new featureful buggy guns then?20:08
DarthFrogI don't think I've compiled a kernel since I started using Kubuntu.20:08
BluesKajDarthFrog, I'm particularly cautious about commands that I'm not familiar with ...i learned that lesson a while back :P20:09
DaskreechI have but that's cause I broke something v_v20:09
Daskreech\o/ learning is fun20:09
DarthFrogDaskreech: I wait and let others do the beta testing first. :-)  I don't like bleeding on the cutting edge.20:09
DarthFrogBluesKaj:  You have good judgement.  Good judgement comes with experience.  Experience comes from bad judgement.20:10
BluesKajI don't mind testing since i installed this drive from my other linux pc that lost the mobo a few months ago , so i run 12.04 on the main drive and 12.10 on the old one.20:11
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BluesKajone of my bandmates is going to try kubuntu , when has the time , unfortunately he installed ubuntu as his first linux experience andhis mouse and KB froze so he couldn't use it. He was ready to give up on linux after that.20:15
Daskreechboo20:16
DarthFrogNot a good out of the box experience.20:16
BluesKajbrand new pc as well ,that's what bothered me about it20:16
DaskreechI normally expect newer things to not work with Linux20:18
Daskreechnot enough time and penetration to get drivers worked on20:18
BluesKajI think he's going to give kubuntu a try ...new as in new to him. bought it on clearance sale , so it isn't "new" as in just put on the market20:20
DarthFrogEven so, mouse & KB are hardly cutting edge hardware.20:20
mydogsnameisrudymost the time its eather no sound , or video problems?20:22
BluesKajyeah ..hate to start telling ppl to drop to the TTY to run commands or the recovery kernel on their first try with linux20:22
DaskreechBluesKaj: Ah ok20:23
DaskreechBluesKaj: Normally I just take their computer for two days and sort it out20:23
DaskreechIf I can get them to stick with it for a month they can usually appreciate it20:24
Daskreechcourse some people are just not ever going to use Linux20:24
DarthFrogWhich is fine, because they'd never be happy with linux.20:24
BluesKajit only underlines what the other guys in the band (one's an IT experienced) say about Linux ...it's for tinkerers ...windows is for users ..hard to argue with that when his system freezes20:24
DarthFrogBluesKaj: Though I don't like Unity, Ubuntu is for folks like him.20:25
DaskreechBluesKaj: I'd disagree I know many non tinkerer who use Linux20:25
DarthFrogBut if he comes to Linux with a sour attitude, he'll never be happy with it.20:26
DaskreechWindows I'd put as power users who don't want to tinker20:26
Graf_WesterholtYou have to tinker Windows much more than Linux.20:26
Daskreechyou can get linux to a non tinker spot and use the blue bolts out of it much better than windows20:27
DaskreechGraf_Westerholt: if you take it to a high bar that's certainly not true20:27
Daskreechon average yes that's true20:27
BluesKajDaskreech, of course I disagreed , but that's the perception of ppl who take MS certification courses ...but they don't want to hear about linux servers20:27
DaskreechLinux does give you enough tools to get yourself into trouble. Windows simply doesn't20:27
DarthFrogI say that you can tinker to your heart's content with Kubuntu but it's not necessary to tinker with it.20:27
mydogsnameisrudywhat fun is there in not tinkering20:28
Daskreechmydogsnameisrudy: productivity ?20:28
mydogsnameisrudynot fun20:28
DaskreechIt's a bit like people who like building plane engines and wings20:28
BluesKajDaskreech, I've been in plenty of trouble with windows as well, before i discovered linux20:28
DaskreechIt's a bit confusing to them that people just want to get in planes and fly20:29
DaskreechBluesKaj: Yes but did you have the tools to fix the trouble? :)20:29
BluesKajDaskreech, yeah , it was called reinstall  :)20:29
DaskreechI'm still very amused that is considered a tool20:30
DaskreechThere is a problem with my house's roof20:30
DaskreechOh well burn it to the ground and get new wallpapers while you are rebuilding it20:30
BluesKajwell when you have is a sledgehammer20:30
Daskreechhopefully at some point the roof takes care of itself20:31
BluesKajall you have is20:31
DaskreechThere are people I direct to just use Windows and use OSX20:32
DaskreechI'm getting to the point where there are some people I'll tell just get an Android tablet20:32
BluesKaj4,9 seems ok here ...haven't had any system settings crashes like others20:32
Daskreechit would be nice to have a 1000 cuts project for kubuntu but Ithink that too many of the issues are so much lower in the stack20:38
DaskreechX needs some serious fixing, video drivers are horrible and the sound systems need coherence20:38
bakhi20:39
bakneed help20:39
bakm using kubuntu 11.04 on dell inspiron20:39
mydogsnameisrudywhats the problem bak20:40
baki installed nvidia-current I guess I am not writing the xorg.conf correctly20:40
DarthFrogDaskreech: There was an announcement the other day of a new audio system for linux, klang.  It'll be in the kernel (if accepted, of course).20:40
BluesKajDaskreech, yeah , like 2 intel hda chips , one in the soundcard and the other in graphics linked to the hdmi output really threw wrench into setting up the sound ...still don't know if it's fixable ..confusing for new users to say the least20:41
Daskreechbak: what's happening ?20:41
baknot starting gui20:41
bakfollowed this20:41
bakhttp://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58294-How-to-install-Nvidia-Drivers-in-Kubuntu20:41
DarthFrogDaskreech:  http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE1MDc20:41
DaskreechDarthFrog: thanks20:42
bakto write xorg.conf20:42
BluesKajklang sounds too "canonical" for my taste :)20:42
DarthFrogBluesKaj:  But it should be fine for KDE, having a "k". :-)20:42
Daskreechbak: can you pastebin your xorg.conf20:43
bakok20:43
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DaskreechDarthFrog: X_X k reads as Kernel tomost people. Sounds basically like pulseaudio just thrown further down the stack to me20:43
bakhttp://pastebin.com/8Hc9bmwF20:43
DarthFrogDaskreech: If it cleans up the dog's breakfast that is audio on Linux, I'll be happy.20:44
Daskreechbak: no that's not going to work20:45
bakhow do i update Daskreech20:45
Daskreechbak: run sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo nvidia-xconfigure20:46
Daskreechthen run sudo service kdm start20:46
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bakIt is saying nvidia-xconfigure command not found20:48
Daskreechbak: Did you install the nvidia driver ?20:50
bakyes20:50
bakif i say sudo dkms status20:51
bakoutput: nvidia-current 302.17 added20:51
Daskreechhow did you add that driver?20:52
baksudo apt-get install nvidia-current20:52
baki am able to see nvidia x server settings in menu20:53
bakis that installed properly?20:55
BluesKajbak, it's best to use kmenu>apps>system>addtional drivers20:56
BluesKajbak aka jockey20:56
bakit showing that no proprieterty drivers installed in your system20:57
BluesKajbak yes , but look at the list below and choose the recommend driver and activate20:58
bak*use20:58
baklist is empty20:59
bakhow do i do now ? mine is dell inspiron N511021:05
mydogsnameisrudylspci shows nvidia card?21:06
BluesKajbak this is a method that's tried and true , copied from a tutorial , http://pastebin.com/VutsTuWP21:07
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footroothello22:28
mydogsnameisrudyhello footroot22:30
footroothello there!!!22:30
footroothey mydog, knows you how to get more channels22:31
mydogsnameisrudywhat channel are you looking for22:32
footrootI don know, just more channels. this is first time i chat in a irc22:33
mydogsnameisrudyok well you can do /join #ubuntu22:34
mydogsnameisrudyand /join #kubuntu-offtopic22:34
footrootso join is the command to go inside a chat. but what is the command to knows differents channels?22:37
footrootmaybe ""offtopic""22:37
mydogsnameisrudyyou need to   /join then channel name like #kubuntu22:37
mydogsnameisrudyi just google for the channel im lookin for22:38
mydogsnameisrudydepends on what your are trying to find22:38
footrootI'm inside this channel already22:38
mydogsnameisrudyi think xchat has a search engine in it22:38
Daskreechfootroot: you can type /list22:39
footrootok22:39
mydogsnameisrudyah thx Daskreech22:39
mydogsnameisrudy;)22:39
footrootThank Daskreech22:39
levishi, is there any repo for updated chromium versions? I've one, but the last is 18.x, now there is 21.x22:42
DaskreechI think so22:45
Daskreechfootroot: Are you looking for channels or servers?22:48
footrootDaskrech i'm looking for both. i'm trying to knows how to work with Quassel22:55

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