dileks | hi. good its called arch/arm64 :-) | 05:39 |
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dileks | http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1324121/focus%3D1333603 | 05:39 |
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* smb decides that having a cup of coffee standing in front of him probably is not enough... | 07:32 | |
apw | infinity, what was the arch name in debian for arm64 in the end | 07:40 |
smb | aaaarch64? | 07:41 |
apw | smb, dunno, dileks was just pointing out the kernel looks to be changing to arm64 | 07:44 |
smb | just being more than an hour ago but yeah | 07:45 |
smb | they probably got too many puns for the other name | 07:45 |
apw | indeed almost exactly two apparenly ... | 07:46 |
* apw bets this means we end up with the same issues with name | 07:46 | |
apw | between debian and the kernel again ... sigh | 07:47 |
smb | Why should they deserve a better fate than amd64/x86_64 | 07:48 |
* smb still feels more tired than before going to sleep... | 07:49 | |
infinity | apw: arm64. | 07:52 |
infinity | apw: aarch64 is just the GNU triplet, the dpkg arch is arm64. | 07:52 |
infinity | apw: You can thank me for that sanity. :P | 07:53 |
apw | heh so we managed to get them inconsistenat anyhow | 07:53 |
apw | thanks :) | 07:53 |
infinity | apw: Yeah, people whined about the triplet/dpkg inconsistency, and I don't care. | 07:54 |
infinity | apw: Making the triplet something that isn't arm* means that the tons of tools out there that assume arm* = aarch32 won't explode. | 07:54 |
apw | having most of an arch name be arch is pretty uselss as its effectivly a64 | 07:54 |
apw | which is pretty greedy namespace wise | 07:55 |
infinity | apw: Yeahp, but whatever. Not my concern. Anything !arm* is fine by me. :P | 07:55 |
infinity | apw: Maybe someone will talk ARM into renaming the GNU triplet, but I'm kinda hoping not, as it will mean redoing all their toolchain patches, plus any bootstrap porting they've done. | 07:57 |
infinity | apw: (Plus the above conflict, which means having to go over every single build system with a fine-toothed comb) | 07:58 |
apw | infinity, its not sounding perfect indeed | 08:03 |
dileks | I looked (quickly) over a bit that arm64/aarch64 patchset, so its a bit inconsistent in usage. in terms of "port" they mostly use "arm64", in case of arch(itecture) aarch64 is used. so there should be a clear usage of terms. for linux/arch/arm64/ that is what kernel people have expected | 08:14 |
* dileks looked into ia32 below arch/ and naming of files, hmm, yes, what shall I say :-( | 08:14 | |
henrix | smb: fyi, i'm tagging bug #999755 as verified in oneiric | 09:21 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 999755 in linux "Kernel crash in rb_next doing ohai loops" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/999755 | 09:22 |
smb | henrix, Ok, cool. Yeah, it is as verified as it will get. Thanks | 09:22 |
henrix | smb: :) | 09:22 |
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apw | warning warning will robinson ... X seems to be in quantal-proposed | 11:21 |
smb | Friday sounds like the perfect day for that. | 11:43 |
dileks | as Linux v3.6-rc1 is released... <http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Kernel-Log-Development-of-Linux-3-6-under-way-1657742.html> | 11:51 |
dileks | apw: you read that "secret announce" about unionmounts in vfs pile #1? | 11:51 |
dileks | preliminary support* | 11:52 |
dileks | I am surprised noone asked when that will be ready2use | 11:52 |
dileks | https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/7/22/17 | 11:53 |
dileks | to quote: "* preparatory bits from unionmount series (from dhowells)." | 11:53 |
apw | oh great more transisions in my future | 11:54 |
dileks | apw: just as a note "VFS: Split inode_permission()" (commit by dhowells) | 11:54 |
dileks | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commitdiff;h=0bdaea9017b9d2b9996e153a71ee03555969b80e | 11:55 |
dileks | remembering your work... an export is missing for "fs built as module"? | 11:59 |
apw | yeah | 11:59 |
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smb | apw (and maybe bryceh is interested): bug 1032622 | 13:12 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1032622 in xorg "ctrl+alt+l fail to start screenserver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032622 | 13:12 |
smb | (this seems to be related to pulling in the new X stack) | 13:12 |
smb | or q-proposed in general | 13:13 |
apw | yeah | 13:13 |
apw | you should say that if you didn't | 13:13 |
smb | I did | 13:13 |
apw | great | 13:13 |
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arges | apw, hello. was it you or cking that was the resident acpi expert? | 14:30 |
apw | arges, that'd be cking, but he is off for a bit, whats up | 14:30 |
rtg | arges, cking, but he's out for 2 weeks | 14:30 |
arges | rtg, apw : ah that's what i thought. just looking at a report regarding apci, pad.lv/1016617 looks like it works in centos but not in ubuntu. so was wondering if getting /proc/cmdline from the other distro would make sense to compare or if I need to look at something else | 14:31 |
apw | bug #1016617 | 14:32 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1016617 in acpi "Dell c6220 Unable to Reboot" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1016617 | 14:32 |
apw | I have found that by rebooting the server via the DRAC web interface will reboot the server correctly. | 14:33 |
apw | arges, ^^ any idea what that even means ? | 14:33 |
arges | apw, I'm guessing its the dell server management console, but i was going to verify | 14:34 |
arges | Dell Remote Access Controller | 14:34 |
arges | yes | 14:34 |
apw | that may involve poweing the machine off then which we know also fixes the issue | 14:34 |
apw | arges, the most likely difference between centos and us is kernel version | 14:34 |
arges | apw, yea i'll get the kernel version and ask to try the similar ubuntu version | 14:34 |
apw | as there is an indication that nolapic works for them you might look see if there is a quirk for htat, i suspect there is | 14:35 |
arges | apw, well looks like it helps with the reboot part, but not the boot up part after software reboot | 14:35 |
arges | apw, yea they got it to work using 2.6.18 ... so pretty ancient | 14:37 |
* ogasawara back in 20 | 14:39 | |
apw | yeah a million years old | 14:39 |
arges | wow it was released march 2012 | 14:40 |
henrix | fwiw, they use "2.6.18", not 2.6.18 -- its a *really* heavily patched version. | 14:42 |
arges | yup | 14:43 |
henrix | i had to use centos 2 years ago, and their kernel is very different from the mainline version | 14:43 |
mjg59 | If it's the standard Dell BIOS issue it'll also go away if you disable x2apic support | 14:43 |
apw | mjg59, as in nox2apic on the kernel command line ? | 14:44 |
arges | mjg59, ah. is this done via the bios? | 14:44 |
henrix | i guess he meant the kernel param nox2apic | 14:45 |
henrix | oh, apw had already suggested that :) | 14:45 |
ohsix | what's an irq injection attack | 14:45 |
arges | henrix, well they tried nolacpi, but i'll suggest nox2apic | 14:46 |
arges | mjg59, thanks | 14:46 |
mjg59 | If that works then it's a BIOS bug | 14:48 |
mjg59 | And it's not easy for Linux to work around it | 14:48 |
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rtg | apw, ogasawara: pushed 3.6-rc1 for ubuntu-r. it builds for x86en. have not boot tested yet. | 15:44 |
ogasawara | rtg: ack, thanks | 15:44 |
rtg | back to firmware patches... | 15:45 |
* apw was looking at what was in -rc1 it looks like a huge upheaval especially in VFS we should be wary about moving there as i suspect aufs and overlyafs are going to break hideously | 15:46 | |
rtg | apw, aufs, overlayfs, and raid4-5 are all disabled for now | 15:46 |
apw | rtg, thought they might have to be, there is some union-mounts basis going in there which will collide hideously | 15:47 |
apw | ogasawara, ok pushed -- pulled all the commits together so we can squish them next time round | 16:08 |
ogasawara | apw: ack | 16:08 |
rtg | apw, quantal ? | 16:08 |
apw | rtg yep quantal, refreshed aufs and pulled the commits together so we can clean them up and drop them easy depending | 16:14 |
jwi | jsalisbury: for bug 1028151, testing on 3.3 is a red herring - 3.3 doesn't have the relaxed dmi check that was cherry-picked to precise. so you're back to a situation where samsung_laptop.ko isn't loaded and can't cause havoc. | 16:38 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1028151 in linux "Samsung Series 900 Laptop brightness control issue" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028151 | 16:38 |
jsalisbury | jwi, ahh right. makes sense | 16:38 |
jwi | but f34cd9ca932087 upstream sounds like it could help | 16:38 |
jsalisbury | jwi, cool, I'll take a look. Thanks! | 16:40 |
jwi | jsalisbury: and for bug 1021086, e19ebcab01cc130fa is trickling down through 3.5-stable | 16:44 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1021086 in linux "Kernel Panic when re-enabling wifi via Fn+F2 on Dell XPS 15z" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1021086 | 16:44 |
jsalisbury | jwi, great, thanks! | 16:44 |
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* henrix -> EOD | 17:25 | |
herton | jjohansen, are you maintaining qrt? I just filled a bug for a minor issue I noticed here (bug 1032743) | 17:25 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1032743 in qa-regression-testing "ptrace-restrictions.sh will fail if LC_MESSAGES or LC_ALL is set to something undesired (non english error messages)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032743 | 17:25 |
herton | jjohansen, by qrt, I mean the security tests on it | 17:25 |
jjohansen | herton: okay I'll take a look | 17:26 |
herton | jjohansen, thanks | 17:26 |
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* rtg -> lunch | 17:42 | |
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* apw -> beer | 19:04 | |
* ogasawara lunch | 19:23 | |
rtg | ogasawara, we've accumulated quite a stack of patches in quantal master-next. are you thinking about uploading today ? | 20:12 |
* rtg -> EOW | 20:23 | |
ogasawara | rtg: I wasn't planning one for today, but it should be trivial to do. let me kick off some test builds and then I'll upload. | 20:23 |
rtg | ogasawara, ack, I'll watch for build failures over the weekend. | 20:24 |
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