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diploaMorning all07:06
christelmorning diplo :)07:22
jussiHello all! Morrning diplo.07:23
christelmorning jussi :)07:23
jussichristel: Im not talking to you. I was 10 mins away and you didnt come see me. :P07:23
christelhaha i would if i'd known before you were like "so i am in farnborough but i am leaving in an hour" :P07:24
jussiwell we only ended up in farnborough because we were just driving around and the road took us there...07:24
christelhehe07:25
christeli am so tired :(07:26
jussibut then that we went and visited a guy from the mer community, and he both scared and thrilled me... (he has a [very fast] Jaguar...)07:26
jussithen the boxter wasnt so fun anymore...07:26
christelhaha07:27
christeli saw the car pics, you looked like you were enjoying it ;)07:27
jussiyeah, when I was in control...07:28
diplo:P07:28
christelhehe07:31
christelboys and their toys.. ;)07:41
jacobwmorning07:46
jacobwi'm finding the controversy over jonah lehrer's misquoting of bob dylan confusing07:51
jacobwi don't care that he made this particular thing up, i still like his work07:52
christelhehe07:56
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)07:59
christelGOOD MORNING BIGCLAM07:59
bigcalmchristel: sorry, no hangover today :P08:00
bigcalmchristel: good morning my dear :)08:00
christelhow are you lovelychops? :D08:00
bigcalmHeh08:00
bigcalmIn need of a weekend. Lucky there is one starting in a few hours08:01
bigcalmHow are you deary?08:01
christeli am in a slightly devilish mood but very very well :D08:02
christelthyself? :D08:03
bigcalmI thought that was your normal state08:03
bigcalmYou've already asked that :P08:03
christeloh08:03
christelSEE i just pay no attention!08:03
christeli was enjoying some most delectable thoughts08:04
christeland pondering trying AlanBell for breakfast08:04
christelerrrr08:04
christelAlanBell's eggs08:04
bigcalmIt's an easy mistake to make. I've often confused AlanBell for his chickens...08:05
christeli'm not sure he'd fit in my frying pan ;)08:06
AlanBellI might have some eggs too08:07
AlanBellwill try not to cook myself08:07
christelgood morning breakfast!08:08
christel;)08:08
bigcalmHaha08:08
christeli am unsure whether to fry, omelette, scramble or boil08:09
christelhrm hrm hrm08:09
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DJonespoached eggs08:09
christelooh yes08:09
christelthat sounds scrumptious actually08:10
bigcalmPoached for me please08:10
christelmorning TheOpenSourcerer \o/08:10
TheOpenSourcereryo christel et al.08:10
* TheOpenSourcerer got overtaken on Shortheath road (residential) again this morning. because I stick to the 30mph speed limit. :-(08:11
diploComplain to your local police station, I expect they could do with the revenue ?08:11
TheOpenSourcererWhy can't these idiots just get up a few minutes earlier? Then they wouldn't be in such a rush.08:11
christelhaha08:12
AlanBellmy mum does a constant 50mph on every road08:12
diplotbh a few years ago I used to be like that08:12
TheOpenSourcererlol08:12
diploBut I'm sloooow now08:12
bigcalmAlanBell: _every_ road?08:12
AlanBellbigcalm: motorways and everything08:13
TheOpenSourcererI find it much less stressful having plenty of time to get somewhere, and it also amuses me to watch people getting more and more excitable in my rear view mirror ;-)08:13
bigcalmdiplo: as you get older, you come the realise the cost of fuel, tyres, sanity. There little to actually rush for :)08:13
diployeah, that and now also the safety of my boys as well08:14
TheOpenSourcererHaving kids made me slow down on residential roads. I tend to not hold back on Motorways or dual carriageways etc.08:14
bigcalmAlanBell: economical on the motorways, not so healthy in a 20 zone08:14
diploA lot less fiery as well, I was known to be a bit of a road rage and actually get out of the car to punch people in my early days08:14
czajkowskibigcalm: you do soound like a grumpy old 50 year old at times you know that right :)08:14
* TheOpenSourcerer would probably have been punched by diplo had we crossed roads then ;-)08:15
bigcalmczajkowski: I can't avoid it, so I shall embrace it. My eyebrows are slowly turning white :D08:16
christelmorning czajkowski <308:16
diploI rarely do more than 75/80 on motorways.. I drive to Plymouth a lot as my grans is theree and I used to drive down there at anywhere between 80-95 and one day I decided to see what it was like driving at 50/60 all the way08:16
diploTook me 20 mins longer and saving me 1/4 a tank of fuel08:16
TheOpenSourcererMy nasal hair is now growing faster than that on my head.08:16
czajkowskiTheOpenSourcerer: thanks for that lovely image08:17
JamesTaitHappy Friday, folks! :-D08:17
czajkowskichristel: ello elo;)08:17
TheOpenSourcererczajkowski: for you. Anything my dear :-)08:17
christelhellooo JamesTait \o/08:17
TheOpenSourcererDid we all see Adobe have released a nice new FOSS Font :-D08:17
* JamesTait hugs christel 08:17
christelTheOpenSourcerer: why yes!08:18
* christel hugs JamesTait 08:18
TheOpenSourcererhttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/08/adobe-releases-source-sans-pro-a-new-open-source-font/08:18
TheOpenSourcererLooks nice08:18
czajkowskiit's all about fonts and branding you know :)08:18
TheOpenSourcererIndeed. I like the idea they will be using it for their open source products. Wonder where they got that idea?08:19
popeythey have open source products?08:19
bigcalmThere is a need for a font family other than Ubuntu?08:20
bigcalmMorning popey08:20
TheOpenSourcererThey are making them now: http://brackets.io/08:20
AlanBellnot massive glyph coverage in it08:21
TheOpenSourcereryet...08:22
TheOpenSourcererThey are working on monospaced and greek & cyrillic08:22
TheOpenSourcererIt's opensource - release early, release often :-D08:22
oimonTheOpenSourcerer, nasal combover?08:24
TheOpenSourcererOooh nice idea oimon - although pulling them out with pliers has a certain masculinity that appeals to me ;-)08:24
dwatkinsit's one way to initiate crying08:26
diploI knew I was starting to age a bit when I had hair coming out on my back08:27
diplo:P08:27
bigcalmWhy does pulling nasal hair cause one's eyes to water?08:27
dwatkinsperhaps you're causing the tear-ducts to move08:28
TheOpenSourcererNot for me - unless it is a full "Clump"...08:28
bigcalmThis wins as the most OT convo :)08:28
diplo:P08:28
TheOpenSourcererclump is rather a good word.08:28
* dwatkins winces at the thought08:28
bigcalmTheOpenSourcerer: is that because you've had practice?08:28
TheOpenSourcererAlmost certainly bigcalm08:29
popeyhttp://via.me/-3nnc98u#!/-3nmtvv008:29
bigcalmpopey: that's Space Boss' ride?08:29
popeyyes08:29
TheOpenSourcereris it big enough?08:30
bigcalmDoes it blend?08:30
TheOpenSourcererhah08:30
oimonbigcalm, but bum hairs are the same..longest hairs in the body, since they are connected to your eyeballs08:31
jussioimon: I thought toe hairs had that title...08:31
bigcalmoimon: not something I've ever plucked to find out08:31
dwatkins"He's not a nosehair plucker, he's a nosehair plucker's son..."08:32
oimoni have a rogue bristly hair on the smooth underside of my wrist, keeps on reapparearing08:32
jussiits funny, in finnish we have different words for hair on your head and hair on your body...08:32
TheOpenSourcererAnd how many words for snow jussi?08:32
JamesTaitpopey: That's a quite beautiful piece of machinery.08:33
jussione is just "hair" the other translates to "fur"08:33
dwatkinsjussi: what if the wrong kind of hair grows somewhere, e.g. thicker hair on the back which should be under the arms?08:33
dwatkinsI guess that's still not on the head.08:33
jussidwatkins: its all "fur"08:33
jussi:D08:33
dwatkinsthat makes me quite furry...08:34
AlanBellpopey: that is a very fancy bus08:34
oimontraffic and trains around the olympics are super quiet08:34
oimonit's been a good week08:34
dwatkinsvia.me doesn't work if I block everything ghostery blocks.08:35
TheOpenSourcererDid you all see Valve's news about game performance on Linux :-) http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/08/valves-optimizations-make-linux-port-of-l4d2-outperform-windows-version/08:37
brobostigongood morning everyone.08:39
christelmorning brobostigon :)08:39
brobostigonmorning christel :)08:40
christelwhy are you all sat there pulling hairs? :o08:40
oimonpractising for when it's an olympic sport08:40
christelaah makes se.. no it doesnt08:41
christel:P08:41
brobostigonwell, i am getting some hair loss.08:41
oimonstill only have a couple of greys in my late 30s08:42
oimonit's not always an advantage08:42
oimonpeople think i'm a young whippersnapper who doesn't have 20yrs experience of using unix08:42
christeli have no idea if i have any grey hairs yet, i don't dare to not colour my hair in case i do08:42
oimonlol08:42
TheOpenSourcererAge is no indicator for greyness. Just ask AlanBell ;-)08:43
christelah but isnt he approaching 60? :x08:44
* christel hides behind TheOpenSourcerer 08:44
popeyhe is approaching 60!08:44
popeyvery slowly, from behind08:44
* TheOpenSourcerer ducks08:44
christelpopey: haha <308:44
jussiI just caught popey's second line and immediately thought of Gary_....08:46
* AlanBell is indeed approaching 6008:46
bigcalmNaughty :)08:46
AlanBellwill get there in 23 years or so08:46
bigcalmPuts it into perspective. 27 years to go for some of us :S08:47
jussibigcalm: yes, that is a word I would use about Gary_ :P08:47
bigcalmHah08:47
TheOpenSourcereror just 13 years for some of us :-(08:48
jussiyou old farts... I have 30 years to go...08:48
diploAnyone know if Dustin Kirkland hangs about in any channels?08:50
diplo24 for me :)08:51
jussidiplo: given he is in US, unlikely to be awakje atm08:51
diployeah, sorry meant for later08:51
diploJust tinkering with some of his code and fancied a chat08:52
jussiyeah, he is around, in #ubuntu-devel iirc - nick also iirc is kirkland08:53
jussia really nice guy08:53
diployeah followed him for years and blog, not a Canonical guy anymore though is he, went off to work on eCrypt08:53
christelTheOpenSourcerer: awww08:54
TheOpenSourcererchristel what?08:54
christel13 years! (i am slow)08:54
bigcalmTwice as close as we are08:55
TheOpenSourcererOh - well yeah. I don't worry about it. I still "feel" like a big kid inside and probably always will :-D Much to wife's constant annoyance.08:55
diplothanks jussi anyhoo08:55
bigcalmMore than08:55
christelTheOpenSourcerer: for some reason that does not surprise me at all :P08:55
jussidiplo: he is present in #ubuntu-devel atm, but I guess not active08:55
TheOpenSourcererWhy do the Jocks have a day off on moday?08:56
TheOpenSourcerers\Monday08:56
diploI've joined to remind myself later, suppose I really ought to work now08:57
bigcalmTheOpenSourcerer: dunno, but they don't get the one at the end of the month that we get09:14
bigcalmMorning (early?) davmor209:14
ali1234is SATA hotswappable?09:15
AlanBellali1234: yes09:15
ali1234cool09:15
davmor2bigcalm: Yeap I'm gonna knock off a bit earlier I'm feeling a bit bluh09:15
TheOpenSourcererOh my - another chuck of possibly interesting leads appear in our inbox...09:15
AlanBellso they do09:16
davmor2morning all09:16
oimonu1 on my android never uploads my photos anymore, always seems to be logged out whenever i run it09:17
oimon:(09:17
TheOpenSourcererAnd they keep on coming...09:17
diplooimon: Only issue I get is "Failed to upload"09:18
diplooccasionally09:18
diploI wish I could trace back a bit :/09:18
oimoni don't think it's trying anymore09:18
oimonwonder if it happens after a version update09:19
oimonalso, my android foced updates on me the other day, even apps i chose to update manually, it suddenly decided to run all updates09:20
oimonthat means i got the new g+ app :(09:20
diploGuessing you don't like09:20
oimonseems to be very picture-centric, even if the picture is irrelevant09:21
oimonand text overlays pics09:21
oimonnot clean like it was before09:21
diploQuite like it now tbh09:21
ali1234you need to get android 409:21
ali1234it has all different apps and they are much better09:21
oimonnot sure it will be out for my htc09:21
oimonstill v early days for my touchpad too09:22
gordi'll prolly get android 4 when everyone else has android 8. slowpoke.jpg09:22
oimonso far i haven't seen super compelling reason to want JB09:24
gordits better, but its not £400 better09:24
popeyi thought performance was the big thing?09:25
TheOpenSourcerer4.109:25
diplooimon: What v you on for U One on android ?09:25
oimonperformance will be a big thing in cyanogen's version09:25
oimonsince they get the linaro massive improvements09:25
gordthere are nice things like being able to block notifications and stuff09:25
oimondiplo, 1.2.209:26
gordbut googles new standards for the play store might help stop airpush stuff anyway09:26
diployeah same... odd then it's not working09:26
diplomine only uploads photos on wifi09:26
diploand only once a day i think09:26
oimonok, it's working now i've logged in09:27
oimonbut not retrospectively09:27
oimonmaybe it's either when i turn phone off, or the version updated, but i had to login first09:27
Flashtekmorning all09:27
oimonah, it is working retrospectively now09:28
Flashtekpopey: you seen my bug perchance ?09:29
oimonanother annoying thing is that google play insists on installing google books, 9MB09:29
popeyFlashtek, nope, bug number?09:29
Flashtekbug 103230609:29
lubotu3Launchpad bug 1032306 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer crashed at who are you" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103230609:29
oimonhave to remove it manually until play updates the next time, and screws my phone09:29
popeythanks09:29
popeyFlashtek, doesn't crash here09:32
popeyFlashtek, it wont let me get past the "Who are you?" screen without putting a name in09:32
Flashtekpopey: lol09:32
Flashtekpopey: might be Kubuntu specific then I guess ??09:32
popeyoh, kubuntu, didnt notice that09:33
* popey gets an iso09:33
oimonwhat phone are they using in the latest ubuntu android video?09:34
oimonand dock09:34
popeywhich video?09:34
popeyi think they're using a nexus09:34
oimonhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/ubuntu-for-android-demoed-on-video-at-fisl09:34
oimonhaving this would make me buy a HD telly. get home and pop the phone into the dock in font of telly09:35
Flashtekbrb, brekky awaits09:35
AlanBellsame one as before with the landscape dock I think oimon09:35
popeyno that video is still the motorola atrix 209:36
oimonthe first time it was the atrix i though09:36
popeyyou can see motorola along the top of the name of the phone09:36
diplooimon: Read the comments ( first one is translated ) they say it's the Atrix2 in the translation09:37
oimonjust saw that, cheers. tend to avoid the comments this early in the day ;D09:37
ali1234it's always been the atrix2...09:38
ali1234and accessing android features within the guest OS has always been possible on those phones09:38
oimoni don't have sound on this pc, but i can tell he's talking balearic/spanish/portgu09:38
oimon"But the telephone companies that are working with us to bring this pre-installed on phones are targeting the next generation that is quad-core with 1.5GB and 2GB."09:40
diployeah portugese, I couldn't last the whole video :P09:40
oimondidn't atrix have a laptop style device you could plug the phone into too?09:41
oimonwonder if it's wishful thinking to think that in the future we could have hot desks at work and just plug our mobiles in like this09:42
AlanBellI think the ubuntu for android thing is quite plausible as a product09:43
oimoni for one am holding out for it09:43
AlanBellit gives the manufacturers some kind of justification for putting quad core chips in phones09:44
ali1234it's completely plausible09:44
ali1234they already sell it with their own toy distro on it09:44
ali1234which was based on ubuntu09:44
ali1234putting a properly supported distro on it can only be an improvement09:45
popeyits got some nice integration too09:45
popeylike accessing your phone contacts in thunderbird09:45
ali1234sure.09:45
ali1234if they are making a second one, the first one must have done ok09:46
ali1234even without any of that09:46
popeyAlanBell, who has my usb3 caddy?09:46
AlanBellpopey: I do09:46
popeycool09:46
oimonali1234, my impression is thht they are working with vendors to release this as a thing, not just a homebrew feature09:46
ali1234oimon: of course09:46
popeythere's no money in it if it's homebrew09:47
ali1234putting a real official ubuntu instead of a half-cut self rolled distro is a win for everyone09:47
diploAny samba/wins people here? Issue being09:47
oimoni've never seen an atrixx in the UK. everyone is htc, apple and samsng   my circles09:47
diploWe have a customer who we vpn into09:47
gordon the topic, it would be pretty stupid of me to expose a samba server to the internet because i'm too lazy to setup a vpn right?09:47
diploA machine(s) are configured i think to look at our ip range incorrectly and are filling /var/log/messages on ,lots of our servers with09:48
ali1234gord: yes09:48
ali1234setting up a vpn isn't even that hard09:48
oimongord, when i used samba actively, there were vulneriabilites aplenty09:48
diploprocess_name_reqyest nmbd Error should be sent to a WINS Server09:48
gordi don't think you are grasping just how lazy i want to be09:48
diploWant to know how to trace back to what is causing this ?09:48
ali1234it's easier than setting up samba, that's for sure09:48
gordmaybe i could just run a ps3mediaserver and expose that09:49
diploI'm guessing dns ?09:49
gordi already have samba setup09:49
ali1234just buy a qnap nas, they have vpn built in09:49
oimongord, for a windows client to access?09:49
gordfor anything i have to access09:49
diploWhat are you wanting to do with it gord ?09:49
diploaccess what specifically09:50
gordi have ooodles of bandwidth now, so i want to stream my ripped dvd collection from whereever i am in the world instead of copying onto my laptop all the time09:50
oimongord, use vlc?09:51
popeyI'd just put apache on an odd port and put a .htaccess in the root09:51
popeyand stream over http09:52
diploI stream my music via a web app09:52
TheOpenSourcererJessica Ennis just broke the 100m hurdle WR in the heptathlon. :-)09:53
oimongord, you are giving the impression that you leave the house09:53
oimonTheOpenSourcerer, in the heat?09:54
diplohttp://videojs.com/09:54
diplohttp://labs.official.fm/codecs/mp3/09:54
oimonis it still ramadan btw?09:54
czajkowskihmm09:55
czajkowskianyone run JB and run 12.04 , can you connect your phone and move files to it ??09:55
TheOpenSourcereroimon: Dunno if a heat or the final - Wouldn't have thought there would be elimination rounds in the Heptathlon somehow.09:55
oimoni thin kit's heats atm09:55
gordoimon: often for weeks at a time!09:55
diplogord: I've actually used this one http://jplayer.org/09:55
diploAnd I am writing my own web page for my server at home for it09:56
popeytwo weeks in copenhagen coming up!09:56
christel<3 copenhagen09:56
oimonmy sister lives there for 4 years, and i haven't visited yet :S09:56
christelshocking!09:56
Dave2Butter chicken at India Palace. Have it.09:56
christeldenmark is loovely09:57
oimonmainly due to having baby and not liking planes09:57
czajkowskioimon: :o shocking09:57
gordi don't think i'll do two weeks this time ;)09:57
gordmaybe can skip uds entirely09:57
czajkowskigord: booo but then I wont see you09:57
czajkowski:(09:57
oimonnow mrs oimon is preg again i don't think we will go for another 2 years at least09:57
czajkowskione less box of tea bags I suppose09:57
czajkowskioimon: you know babies can go on planes you know :)09:57
christelbabies LOVE planes09:57
* christel nods09:57
gordyes, all that loud crying that makes my journey miserable is just a sign of how much they enjoy it09:58
oimonit's not fair to travellers to take a baby < 1yr on a plane09:59
diploI still haven' taken mine09:59
czajkowskigord: not all do, but yeah some do and it's mostly the 2-4 year old that will not sit still or kick chairs that I have issues with09:59
* AlanBell pictures babies enjoying flying while gord crys miserably09:59
gordwas sitting next to a small child on a plane once, every time i woke up he seemed to have grown until there was a full grown adult man next to me. i think the family was just messing with me09:59
oimonbesides, it's usually a 4hr wait at the aorport, and not exactly conducive to stressfree living09:59
popeywat09:59
czajkowskigord: lol09:59
christeloimon: nah small babies are easiest, you just feed them and they are most happy10:00
oimonour family are in agreement anyway :)10:00
christelgord: haha10:01
* TheOpenSourcerer recalls flying back from St Lucia in Virgin Upper Class with our 1.5yr old who cried all the way. We were NOT Mr & Mrs popular on that flight ;-)10:01
oimonespecially as long haul flights expose babies to huge amounts of radiation...10:01
czajkowskiTheOpenSourcerer: aye long haul is damn hard on people10:02
czajkowskioimon: eh ?says who10:02
TheOpenSourcererNot in Upper Class it isn't (normally)10:02
TheOpenSourcererUsed to travel all the time.10:02
oimonin my flying days i took a flight from new york full of american schoolgirl/cheerleader types10:02
TheOpenSourcererGold VIP with BA and always turned left when entering the plane. No longer though :-(10:03
TheOpenSourcererNot now I have to pay for it myself.10:03
oimonA typical dose rate is 0.5 mrem per hour of flight. so a 12hr flight is the same as a chest xray10:03
christelAlanBell: you need sell more stuff so that TheOpenSourcerer can fly in style!10:03
oimonso that level of radation is harmful for little children10:04
TheOpenSourcererWhat a great idea christel10:04
christel;)10:05
ikoniasell a child ?10:05
TheOpenSourcererSee that MS looks like it has to drop the "Metro" name... Now calling it Windows 8 UI Style or something10:05
ikoniawhy has it had to drop the name?10:05
TheOpenSourcererTrademark infringement I guess.10:05
AlanBellsomeone else got there first and it isn't generic enough apparently10:06
ikoniaoh dear10:06
ikoniayou'd thing this sort of thing would be checked before release.10:06
TheOpenSourcererthey obviously didn't consider Germany.10:06
ikoniaMetro is quite a big name in the USA though with parts of the transport system10:07
oimonthey should call it patio instead10:07
AlanBellyes, it probably is generic in America10:07
TheOpenSourcererDecking!10:07
TheOpenSourcerer(tm)10:07
oimonit was actually european partners who complained10:07
TheOpenSourcererI Got there first folks10:07
directhexoimon, assuming all forms of radiation react the same way to all things they come into contact with, your numbers work. humans aren't affected equally by cosmic rays and x-rays10:08
TheOpenSourcererParquet!10:08
TheOpenSourcerer(C)10:08
ali1234they should call it sqrz (all lower case)10:08
ali1234or even better sq.rz10:08
oimon100 hours of flying in a year gives you approximately 50% more total radiation exposure than those who never fly. The biggest study says10:09
oimonyou have nothing to fear. The FAA suggest that your increased rate of getting cancer is 0.005% for each year that you fly for 90 hours.10:09
oimonmaybe they prefer children not to fly because it gives them longer to develop diseases10:09
oimonhttp://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/252712.html10:09
oimondoes anyone else get google books force-installed on their android?10:10
TheOpenSourcereroimon: nope. Don't think so.10:10
bigcalmCan you have a git repo with some svn externals in it? It sounds nuts, but I don't want to keep a load of externals in my own project repo10:10
TheOpenSourcereroimon: yes. It is installed. Says I can uninstall it though.10:11
oimonTheOpenSourcerer, yeah, until next time google market updates10:11
oimonthen it reinstalls10:12
oimonswallows 9mb of precious memory and stops my phone working, since it's below the 15mb limit10:12
TheOpenSourcereroimon: Yes - it didn't really remove itself. Just flagged for update.10:12
TheOpenSourcererI don't use it but not really bothered tbh.10:12
oimonmore of an issue if you have lack of sapce10:13
oimoneven running apps on SD card takes internal memory for me10:13
TheOpenSourcererAhh - I have an SIII10:13
oimonbig space?10:13
oimonnot sure where all my spce goes10:14
TheOpenSourcerer16GB I think.10:14
diplooimon: Same issue, clear browser cache clears up some10:14
diploThere are certain logs you can clear if you are rooted?10:14
oimondiplo, yeah, i had to find a bookmark backup program10:14
oimonbecause clear cache didn't clear it but remove data did10:15
TheOpenSourcereryeah I have 11.35GB free.10:15
diploFrom when I read up, it's to do with /System logs10:15
oimondiplo, would be interested to hear more :D10:15
oimonhtc desire?10:16
diploIt was my colleagues desire yeah10:17
diploI've got the Wildfire, I just don't run as many apps anymore.. made my life easier10:17
diploWill see if i can find the page10:17
oimonta10:17
oimoni only just got the bluetooth working for my car , after 18 months. there was an issue with my install of CM10:18
oimonnever found the right page to fix it until the other day10:18
diploSo yes it was the System Data dir10:21
diploApp called DisUsage which will display that10:21
oimonno K ?10:22
diploheh, yeah K10:22
diplo:)10:22
diploSorry!10:22
oimon:D10:22
oimonfound a load of spanish apps instead10:22
oimonhave it now10:22
diploYou can only delete from System Data if you have root, but if you have cm i guess you have root10:23
oimonsystem data has 123mb free space10:23
* directhex moos10:23
oimonmy phone think it has only 15mb left10:23
oimonam i doing something wrong?10:23
popeyFlashtek, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/111805873/ubiquity.png10:23
ali1234popey: backing up a hard drive on dd, and my machine is freezing badly10:24
popey:(10:24
ali1234so it's not just USB10:24
oimonali1234, i get that when updating apps10:24
popeyoh interesting10:24
oimonkernel update the other day froze my pc for ages10:24
diplooimon: Just going to try it myself, I think it wants to keep a certain amount of space10:24
ali1234this is SATA10:24
diploBut.. what you are trying to find is large log files10:25
oimondiplo, but i have 123mb free?10:25
oimonin system10:25
oimonif i search app storage, i am told that i have 147mb capacity, 15mb  free10:27
oimonwonder if i can expand this partition10:27
diploDon't think this is correct app maybe10:28
oimondiplo, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.thedarken.sdm&hl=en ?10:33
diploLooks good, given it a try ?10:34
oimonjust trying it10:34
oimontablets/phones don't really lend themselves to tidy filesystems10:35
oimonshould prob take a backup before doing this...10:36
diploId say so :P10:36
directhexwebos managed to be LVM-based, so resizing wasn't hell10:36
oimonbut nevertheless..10:36
oimonno, i'm gonna backup10:37
oimon:D10:37
oimondirecthex, i heard openwebos won't be available for the touchpad !10:41
directhexoimon, apparently. something about hp's dodgy kernels being full of non-upstreamed vendor nonsense, and openwebos needing kernel 3.1+ or somesuch10:42
oimoncomplete fail10:42
directhexindeed10:42
oimonone of those things they had to make happen or else10:42
oimonlose the entire communiuty10:43
oimonsaying that, i haven't booted into webos since the day i installed android10:43
oimoncan i encrpyt stuff stored on u1?10:48
popeyyes10:48
popeyi have encrypted stuff in my u1 folder10:49
oimonwhat's the best way?10:49
TheOpenSourcererkeepass FTW!10:49
oimone.g. i have a phone backup folder which is large with many subfolders10:50
Flashtekpopey: yes, that's the screen :-)10:52
popeyi best way to do what?10:53
popeyi keep a gpg encrypted file in my u1, i use vim to edit it, and use gnupg.vim to automagically decrypt and re-encrypt it when I save it10:55
popeyoimon, compress it, gpg encrypt it, put it in your u1 folder10:55
oimonoh, "you don't have the right permissions to creaet an archive in the dest folder"10:56
oimonbug i wonder?10:56
oimonah, the location was set to none by default10:57
davmor2TheOpenSourcerer: how you getting on with your s3 and does it have an sd card slot too?10:58
TheOpenSourcererdavmor2: Love the phone. Yes it has a slot, not that I have used it.10:59
TheOpenSourcererObviously it is a uSD11:00
davmor2TheOpenSourcerer: mine only gets used for photos so that is not an issue11:00
oimoncheers popes i will do that11:01
TheOpenSourcererThis is several orders of magnitude better in many ways compared to my earlier phone (Dell Streak). Battery Life, Weight, Screen, Camera, Speed blah blah blah.11:01
davmor2TheOpenSourcerer: I'm sensing and like smile about to appear :)11:02
popeyhehe dell streak11:06
ali1234y u no like dell streak?11:07
TheOpenSourcererIt was great when it first appeared.11:07
TheOpenSourcererBut that was 2 1/3 years ago (eons in mobile)11:08
ali1234true11:08
TheOpenSourcererAnd Dell rather fscked up on a few things like support and updates etc.11:08
TheOpenSourcererThen they decided to drop the whole Android thing.11:08
oimondell aren't very good at the mobile type device space yet11:09
TheOpenSourcererWas their only phone too.11:09
TheOpenSourcererIt did show rather.11:09
popeytime for an ubuntu dell phone :D11:09
TheOpenSourcererlol11:09
oimonarrgh stupid gui11:10
davmor2popey: the Ubuntell phone :D11:10
popeyDellBuntu Phone11:10
oimonremoving files on sd card requires emptying the rubbish bin, always forget that11:10
directhexsymlink the trash dir to /dev/null!11:13
jacobwi don't like that behaviour11:29
jacobwimo, the trash should be in the home directory of the user running nautilus and only for trash from that filesystem, on other files systems the 'move to trash' option should be replaced by the 'delete' option11:31
jacobwi think unity on a phone would look like windows phone :|11:33
jacobwandroid's interface is like WIMP with pointer replaced with dragger11:34
directhexunity on a phone wouldn't look anything like windows phone?11:36
directhexit'd look like webos rotated 90 degrees :)11:36
Pendulumhiya11:54
christelhiya pretty <311:57
Pendulumchristel: how're you today?11:57
christeli am very well thank you! how are you? :)11:58
PendulumI am good :)11:58
christel\o/11:58
christeli have come to realise that it is very nearly christmas, this makes me very excited :D11:58
Pendulum:)11:59
* Pendulum hugs christel12:01
* christel hugs Pendulum 12:02
czajkowskihmm I think I need to rewatch all of last seasons Dr. Who12:07
czajkowskichristel: no no no months away from christmas!12:08
czajkowskidont be bringing that closer12:08
Pendulumczajkowski: too much to do?12:11
czajkowskiso_much_to_do12:12
czajkowskiI do know I'm going back to Ireland though12:12
czajkowskithis bit I've worked out12:12
czajkowskipossibly on the 22nd12:12
czajkowskiPendulum: http://yfrog.com/oelw1iaj  join me in my giggles12:12
christelczajkowski: pfft only 4! :D12:17
christeltime to start getting ready :D:D:D12:17
czajkowskichristel: hush up you12:18
christelhaha12:18
Dave2gah but it's only just been christmas12:18
Dave2I'll need to think of what to buy for people and stuff :(12:18
christelDave2: tis aaages ago12:18
christelDave2: Pretty Things \o/12:18
Dave2I don't know what things are pretty :(12:19
christelaw12:20
czajkowskioh shopping for people I find is very easy12:20
Dave2I find it incredibly difficult unless I've been explicitly told what people want12:20
czajkowskinope I get them things I know they would love but dont buy themselves12:21
czajkowskiso much fun12:21
czajkowskiproblem is to not buy too much :)12:21
Dave2I have no idea what people would love \o/12:21
Dave2I think I end up relying on suggestions from my mum12:22
christelyou are so useless12:22
christeli should teach you how to shop12:22
christelit is very easy12:22
christeland oh so fun!12:22
Dave2It's hard!12:24
Dave2So hard.12:24
czajkowskiDave2: wish lists on amazon is also handy12:24
Dave2I normally end up going to shops and then leaving with less of an idea than I had before.12:24
Dave2czajkowski: I don't think anyone I have to buy for has one of them12:25
christeloh12:25
christelis it because you're so short you cant really see anything unless it is displayed on the floor?12:26
Dave2:(12:26
MartijnVdSDave2: don't buy anything for them, when they ask, tell them they should have made an amazon wishlist12:27
MartijnVdSProblem: Solved!12:27
christelfear not my small friend i will pray for you and wish for the fleas of a thousand camels to infest the armpits of all your enemies!12:27
czajkowskiDave2: http://www.thorntons.co.uk/pages/category/category.asp?ctgry=Hampers%20And%20Gift%20Boxes&cookie_test=1  worked wonders last year for people12:28
christelPendulum: i can see you thinking it, no i have not been drinking :o12:28
christel<3 thorntons12:29
Dave2MartijnVdS: hah12:30
Pendulumchristel: did you ever do your drinking last night? ;)12:30
Dave2czajkowski: WE'RE SORRY BUT WE CAN'T FIND THAT PAGE12:30
Dave2Although the URL is fairly descriptive12:30
Dave2So I can make a guess12:30
christelPendulum: i had a couple of pints of TEA in your honour12:30
Pendulumchristel: that works ;)12:30
Dave2Is that TEA as in the beer, or tea as in tea?12:31
czajkowskiDave2: http://www.thorntons.co.uk/c/Hampers%20And%20Gift%20Boxes_Chocolate%20And%20Toffee%20Hampers.html12:32
christelDave2: as in the beer12:32
czajkowskibettter than the evil ICE tea!12:33
czajkowskiWRONG!12:33
dwatkinsI discovered today that Lift is the German version of Lilt, not iced tea as I'd thought.12:39
bigcalmThat would be a rude awakening for your tastebuds12:40
czajkowskiLilt is nice12:41
czajkowskiice tea is awful12:41
bigcalm¬.¬12:42
bigcalmIce'd tea can be wonderfully refreshing (if done correctly)12:42
directhexlilt is the devil12:43
directhexallergenic evilness12:43
bigcalmRather like Irn Bru. Ice cold it's ok. Any warmer and it's disgusting12:43
directhexor was in the early 90's12:43
directhexirn bru is also allergenic evil ;)12:43
directhexdrink fewer orange drinks!12:43
czajkowskiit's addictive12:44
dwatkinsbigcalm: a friend suggested an interesting cold remedy - warm up beer on the hob and down it, you'll sleep really well, although it tastes awful.12:44
czajkowskiI think we're down to 6 packs of 812:44
directhexnote: orange flavoured drinks are generally yellow. and the orange colour which causes problems is called sunset yellow12:44
bigcalm:S12:44
czajkowskiwe had about 12 at one point recently12:44
czajkowskiocadoo deliver is rather handy :)12:44
dwatkinsdirecthex: yeah, I'm allergic to Sunset Yellow (hyperactive)12:44
czajkowskilol12:44
dwatkinsczajkowski: I tried to sign-up, but they don't deliver in Edinburgh :(12:44
czajkowskiI wouldnt deliver there either :p12:45
czajkowskifar too north12:45
directhexthese days i have mostly been drinking fentiman's cherrytree cola12:45
dwatkinshaha, yeah it is a long way from London....12:45
dwatkins(assuming you're in London etc.)12:45
dwatkinsI like Edinburgh, it doesn't have annoying traffic and the view from the office is fantastic :)12:45
czajkowskiI am in London12:47
christelirn bru \o/12:48
dwatkinsI think Edinburgh's about 450 miles north of London; it has pretty much the same weather, though.12:49
czajkowskiwish pinttrest had an android app12:50
czajkowskiviewing on phone is annoying12:50
dwatkins"We're working on a dedicated Android app," the Pinterest website says. "We know lots of folks are eager to see one, so when we feel we're in the final stages of its development, we'll be sure to share more information."12:51
christelczajkowski: when i come back from viking land i shall venture into london and do something lovely with you <312:51
directhexpinterest is reddit for handbags, right?12:51
christelpinterest is <312:51
diplohttp://ubuntuone.com/1jPOSDL5MOAo4kWVJAbR6a12:52
* davmor2 has just opened a bottle of fentimans ginger beer one of the best12:53
czajkowskidwatkins: dont be  so dismissive12:53
czajkowskibah12:53
diplolunch \o/12:53
czajkowskidirecthex: dont be so dismissive!12:53
christeli have no idea how i parsed fentimans as feminist12:53
christelbut i did12:53
czajkowskichristel: sounds like a fantastic plan I have an opening in my diary for early september12:53
christeli dont think i have ever tried ginger beer :o12:53
christelczajkowski: woop! what would you like to do on our Magical Date? :D12:54
bigcalmIs there anything happening latest September?12:54
christelbigcalm: YES! you are going down south \o/12:54
christel(we must Arrange Some Sort of Amazingness for when you're down -- someone should tell the social secretary)12:54
bigcalmchristel: what should happen do you think?12:54
christelbigcalm: BEER12:55
christel:D12:55
christelor water polo12:55
bigcalmBeer is good :D12:55
bigcalmLOL, what?12:55
TheOpenSourcererChristel - Try Crabbies. It's rather lovely. Esp. the "Black" version @ 6% http://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2011/08/halewood-launches-crabbies-black/12:55
christelbigcalm: it is my new fascination, how do the horses not drown?12:55
christelTheOpenSourcerer: oooh  thankee <312:55
directhexi don't like most fentiman's stuff, but the cherrytre is great12:55
bigcalmchristel: I have always wondered that myself12:56
diplooimon: How was SD Miad?12:58
diploMaid* anygood ?12:58
oimondiplo, just back from lunch12:59
oimonran it while in the pub, regained over 10MB12:59
oimon:D12:59
diploBetter than a kick in the rear.. still only 10mb12:59
* TheOpenSourcerer has to get up *very* early tomorrow to get to London E20 for 07:30am13:00
oimonstill wonder why there's 125 mb free somehwere else that isn't used13:00
czajkowskiTheOpenSourcerer: ouchies13:01
TheOpenSourcererGoing to watch some Hockey13:02
bigcalmTheOpenSourcerer: unless it's on ice, I wouldn't be getting up that early13:04
TheOpenSourcererUnless it get unseasonably cold I don't expect there to be ice.13:04
oimonmens or wimmins?13:08
Pendulumchristel: I just saw a Norwegian woman run as part of the heptathlon. I thought of you ;)13:09
christel\o/13:12
dauberschristel is in the heptathlon AND on IRC AT THE SAME TIME????????13:13
christelMULTITASKING BABY MULTITASKING13:13
oimonwhat gui tool do people use for encrypting files?13:15
oimoni thought nautilus did it?13:15
popeyi use gpg on the cli13:16
diploYou can get scripts to use via nautilus to encrypt / decrypt13:18
oimondiplo, yeah thats what i had in mind, couldn't find it though13:20
Pendulumdaubers: it's mind controlled IRCing so she can IRC from anywhere ;)13:20
diploSome on gnome-look.org13:20
oimonseahorse13:21
oimonseahorse-nautilus to be precise13:21
DJonesI thought christel was a bot, online 24/713:27
christelwhy yes!13:28
bigcalmI've run out of weak lemon drink due to popey quitting13:31
davmor2christel: you pay a BABY to MULTITASK man you're harsh13:31
popeythat thing where you mis-click in the launcher and open nautilus, then realise "I didn't want that" and close the window only to find it closes the window underneath.. xchat13:31
popeytthat13:31
bigcalmYay Unity ;)13:31
popeynautilus bug :)13:32
bigcalmYay lunch time shower!13:32
davmor2oimon: have you had a look for nautilus plugins13:33
popeybug 78193113:33
lubotu3Launchpad bug 781931 in compiz (Ubuntu Precise) "New windows are moved to front but don't take focus" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78193113:33
popeyfixed yesterday13:33
oimondavmor2, i installed seahorse-nautilus, but it doesn't seem to have aded an option to nautilus13:34
davmor2popey: man that's an old bug it's still in 6 digits ;)13:35
davmor2oimon: in precise or quantal?13:35
oimon12.0413:35
davmor2oimon: and did you look to see if you need to enable it in nautilus?13:35
davmor2oimon: some gnome apps do it by default some of them don't13:36
oimondavmor2, can't seem to see any options in nautilus13:36
oimonthat would enable it13:36
oimonalso if i choose the compress otion, the password bit is greyed out, so maybe i'm missing a pacakge13:37
oimoni think i'm running lubuntu so i might have something missing :S13:38
popeynever a truer word..13:42
oimon:D13:42
TheOpenSourcererBlimey - just rang a lead and the bloke who answered sounded like someone from the "Royle family" - I failed to grok much of what he said... Scouser.13:44
christeldid he buy all the things?13:46
TheOpenSourcererI have no idea. Couldn't really understand what he said.13:46
christelhaha13:46
christelbless13:46
TheOpenSourcererHe made John Bishop sound totally south.13:47
christelhaha13:47
* bigcalm returns clean13:58
bigcalmHayley went to uni. in Liverpool. When we went to see John Bishop on stage, Hayley started sounding rather scouse afterwards13:59
oimonhttp://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/draconian-wifi-police-stalk-olympic-games-20120803-23jdc.html13:59
oimonlol13:59
oimonthe wifi police14:00
christelbigcalm: i say!14:06
bigcalmRather14:08
christelthis amuses me14:08
christel(scouse hayley that is)14:08
bigcalmHehe14:08
christeli had a weird phonecall just now14:09
christelfrom someone i'd apparently given my business card to14:09
christelonly i cant remember ever meeting them14:09
christelwhich makes me think i could have been drunk14:09
christeland that i might have said something daft14:09
* TheOpenSourcerer finds both those assumptions hard to believe. </sarcasm>14:11
bigcalm;D14:11
christel:P14:12
davmor2christel: How dare you associate your name and the word drunk....oh wait sober I always get them the wrong way round :D14:14
christelhaha14:14
davmor2christel: do you like Cafferies?14:15
christeli like caffeeine?14:15
davmor2christel: sorry I spelt it completely wrong http://www.marketingmagazine.co.uk/news/989571/14:16
christeli shall looksie14:20
christeli think i need new business cards, my inability to do Grown Up and Serious means that i now think people call because They Have The Completely Wrong End of The Stick14:21
christel(http://repogirl.net/card.jpg)14:21
christel(and my phone takes really shitty pictures)14:22
diplochristel: That's your business card ?14:22
christelyes14:22
christel:)14:22
diplo:D14:22
bigcalm!ohmy | christel14:22
lubotu3christel: Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.14:22
diploIt's great!14:22
* diplo spanks bigcalm 14:22
christelthe "young" is rapidly becoming a bit of a lie mind14:22
christel:)14:22
bigcalmHeh14:22
davmor2christel: I have no idea why that would give the wrong impression, especially if located in a London Phone Box for example :D14:23
christeldavmor2: haha but that is where i get *all* my business!14:23
* davmor2 now sees christel in a new light ala http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093727/14:25
diplobigcalm: Do you use microdata ?14:25
diplofor your sites14:26
diploTrying to improves some of our customers SEO display in results14:26
bigcalmdiplo: I have no idea :) I do backend stuff these days14:26
bigcalmWhat is micro data?14:27
bigcalmBinary?14:27
diploData that displays in google results displays14:27
diploYou can get it to show better content by using microdata14:27
christeldavmor2: did you know i am on imdb? :D14:27
bigcalmNope, not looked at that14:27
diploSo like using itemprop="price"14:27
diploWill display the price14:27
diploMe either, looks good..14:27
* diplo implements14:27
bigcalmLet me know how it goes ;)14:28
christeldavmor2: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4592461/ i am so cool! (though no personal services involved :P)14:28
czajkowskihttp://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available  my new favourite page, how many indicators is too many :)14:33
christeldiplo: http://repogirl.net/rar%20012.JPG slightly betterer image :)14:33
diploI really like that christel14:38
diploMake them yourself ?14:38
diploAs in your own design, or get external company ?14:38
davmor2christel: You're just not safe in public are you ;)14:41
christeldiplo: nah, a pretty young thing who works for one of my clients (a creative agency) did them :)14:42
christeldavmor2: haha how so? :P14:42
diploI keep debating making some for anyone who wants private work, not for a business perspective perse14:43
davmor2christel: your cards and then producer of death14:43
christeloh yes, i liked doing death14:44
christeldid you see the trailer?14:44
christelwe're actually having our north american premiere *tomorrow*14:44
christelat the feel good film festival in hollywood14:44
christelvery exciting14:44
christelour european/first premiere type thing was as the opening movie at the london sci-fi festival this may14:44
christel:D14:44
christeldiplo: ooh what ahem personal services do you offer? </davmor2>14:45
diploAnything and everything :)14:46
christel:)14:47
davmor2christel: See just not safe :P14:47
christelhrmph! :P14:48
* christel tickles davmor2 with a czajkowski 14:48
* davmor2 doesn't believe that christel would upset czajkowski that much so stands by mocking14:48
davmor2christel: pretty good trailer14:49
* christel bows14:49
christelwe even used *gasp* free software (a little bit)14:49
christel(well magic lantern firmware)14:50
diplolike the webdesign of the page on the card christel14:50
diplo:D14:50
diploFree advertising for Apache :P14:50
christeloh yes, i need to actually chat up TheOpenSourcerer's friend for some website magic14:51
* christel emails him Now14:51
christelthank you diplo, i needed that reminder <314:52
diploI was just being nosey14:53
christelhehe14:53
christelAlanBell: bigcalm says that you need to arrange a happy hour In The South sometime between September 20th and 23rd as he will be Down In Our Neck Of The Woods14:54
* bigcalm nods14:56
bigcalmWe need to beer14:57
christelmmmmbeer.14:57
christeloooh it will sort of be my anniversary around then14:57
christel(september 17th is my One Year Since Surgery Date)14:57
bigcalmCool!14:57
christelscary, it has gone very fast14:57
TheOpenSourcererDid someone say beer?14:57
bigcalmMore reason to celebrate :D14:57
christelTheOpenSourcerer: yay! lets go for beer NOW14:57
TheOpenSourcererI am gaggin for it.14:58
bigcalmHehe14:58
christeli am totally up for beer!14:58
TheOpenSourcererI am still rather busy following up on leads. Will probably drop in to my local on the way home for a few early ones. Seeing as I have to get up at stupid-oclock tomorrow.14:59
christelah yes you're off to london!14:59
christel:D14:59
davmor2TheOpenSourcerer: stupid-oclock is that before or after the whats the 0 stand for OMG! it's early?15:01
bigcalmwhich is why you shouldn't get up before 11:1115:02
gordnothing good happens if you get up at 11:1115:02
gordor at least, thats what 10 series of the x-files taught me15:03
TheOpenSourcererI reckon about 04:30 should do it.15:04
TheOpenSourcererAnd we have a rather heavy party to go to on Saturday eve. Then off to Frensham CC for a day of family fun playing cricket & getting plastered (weather dependent obviously).15:05
bigcalmUg15:24
bigcalmgitlab doesn't apply markdown to the README of a project :(15:25
popeypatches welcome15:26
popeyI am sure15:26
* bigcalm knows diddly about ruby :D15:27
bigcalmRight, server set-up details into a wiki page. This feels a little more productive ;)15:28
bigcalmWork and personal gitlab servers now have similar subdomain names. Must remember to check I'm in the right one now and then15:29
jacobwserver set up details in puppet is more productive :D15:30
* jacobw isn't at that point yet either15:30
bigcalmI just killed my personal gitlab :D15:36
bigcalmNo idea how to fix it :D15:36
davmor2bigcalm: it's a red stone right?15:40
bigcalmEh?15:41
bigcalmdavmor2: what is a red stone?15:43
davmor2bigcalm: a ruby15:43
bigcalmI see15:43
bigcalmContext is king!15:44
davmor2that or it's slang for a curry15:44
bigcalmFixed it15:54
bigcalmDon't just "git pull" and expect it to magically work15:54
TheOpenSourcererping popey16:12
bigcalmI suck at markdown :(16:13
popeyyo16:13
TheOpenSourcererTY - Farnborough station car park? OK to park at 05:00 on a saturday morning?16:13
TheOpenSourcererpopey - is it barrier or Pay & display?16:15
TheOpenSourcereri.e. manned.16:15
popeyno barrier16:18
TheOpenSourcererthanks. Think that will have to do. Was going to go to Wimbledon but the car parks don't open until too late.16:18
popeywhen is this?16:20
popeyoh, tomorrow16:20
popeyfarnborough is ringgo so you can pay online or on your phone with an app16:21
TheOpenSourcererWe have to be at The Olympic park at 07:30am tomorrow...16:22
popeynice16:22
TheOpenSourcererOn Sat trains are per/hr so either 05:16 (loads of time) or 06:16 (very tight).16:23
TheOpenSourcererPresumably I can just stick a card in the Pay & Display machine to park? Looks like it is only £3 on Sat anyway.16:24
lazarus_i looked in synaptic and it saying the wacom stuff is installed but its not working16:24
lazarus_anyone got any ideas16:24
TheOpenSourcererNow it is defo beer o o-clock. Have a nice weekend every one. Thanks popey.16:25
bigcalmAnybody know how I can have multiple lines of code appear correctly in markdown?16:28
bigcalmAh, that's how16:30
davmor2bigcalm: like that16:31
bigcalmdavmor2: very helpful16:31
davmor2bigcalm: I do my bit to help those in need :)16:31
matttwoops16:49
mattthaven't looked at this window all day16:50
matttdespite being at my desk the entire day16:50
matttbeen a busy day :(16:50
christelyou hater you :(16:51
mattthttp://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/haters-gonna-hate-7.jpg16:52
christelhehe16:53
AlanBellhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz2jbCJXkpA song for haters16:57
bigcalmpopey: I've moved gitlab. to git.16:58
AlanBellum, arguably a little nsfw in places16:58
bigcalmIt's 2 mins to non-work time16:59
bigcalm1 mintue16:59
christeltsk tsk AlanBell ;)16:59
bigcalmminute16:59
bigcalmhttp://twitpic.com/af0ou516:59
christelAlanBell: oh i love it :D17:02
bigcalmOh that17:05
bigcalmThe splurg at the end makes it17:10
christel:D17:15
* christel does a special It Is The Weekend Dance with bigcalm and AlanBell and Pendulum 17:15
bigcalm\o/17:15
MartijnVdS*\o/* *\o/* *\o/* *\o/* *\o/*17:16
MartijnVdSdid that work?17:16
MartijnVdS(the channel is +c after all)17:16
Pendulum:D17:17
* MartijnVdS loves his aliases :)17:17
christel:D17:18
MartijnVdS(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻17:18
* christel does a dance with MartijnVdS also17:18
MartijnVdS*\o/* *\o/* *\o/*17:18
bigcalmMartijnVdS: if you were hoping for colour, there was none17:19
MartijnVdSbigcalm: :(17:19
christelneed moar colour17:20
MartijnVdSbut +c17:22
christelWE could make that go away17:25
christelbut then AlanBell would ban me :(17:25
christelprobably17:25
bigcalmHeh17:26
n1md4517:26
n1md4(ignore)17:26
MartijnVdSchristel: I can PM it in full colour 8-)17:26
bigcalmToo late17:26
christel:D17:27
christelik hou van je! <317:27
MartijnVdSJeej Nederlands :)17:30
christelhehe17:30
dwatkinsIk spreek geen Nederlands.17:40
MartijnVdSdwatkins: But.. wait.. uhrrr17:40
dwatkinsI'm watching død Snø, and I don't speak Norwegian either. Thankfully it has subtitles. It's interesting to hear how some words sound like German (which I do speak, as opposed to just cheating with Google Translate)...17:41
MartijnVdSdwatkins: Yeah I get that with Norwegian as well.. lots of Frisian-sounding words17:42
MartijnVdSand bits of English17:42
dwatkinsI made a point of learning that Dutch phrase many years ago, just in case.17:42
MartijnVdS(to my ears)17:42
dwatkinsNorwegian sounds like what I imagine people spoke in Chaucerian times.17:43
MartijnVdSdwatkins: It'll confuse people though.. saying "I can't speak the language I'm speaking now"17:43
davmor2MartijnVdS: this is obviously the way to actually go \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/17:43
MartijnVdSdavmor2: oooooooh!17:43
dwatkinsMartijnVdS: true, I guess I have to make sure I say it with an awful accent ;)17:43
MartijnVdSdwatkins: Dutch people can spot English-speakers from a kilometer away.. and switch languages pre-emptively ;)17:44
dwatkinsI used to wind up my french teacher by speaking with a terrible accent, she knew I had a fairly good grasp of it.17:44
dwatkinsMartijnVdS: ah, Brit-dar?17:44
MartijnVdSl'accent terrible!17:44
dwatkinswee17:44
dwatkinsSilver Plate.17:44
MartijnVdSdwatkins: nah, "Not-Dutch-dar"17:44
dwatkinsI sometimes wonder if speaking a particular language from an early age makes a difference to the shape of the mouth.17:45
dwatkinsPerhaps it's more the way people look when they're about to say something.17:45
davmor2MartijnVdS: It's the Yamolritelikerkid17:45
christeldwatkins: jeg snakker en hel drøss med norsk!17:46
christel-117:46
MartijnVdSdavmor2: it's about phonemes.. if you haven't learned the phonemes for a language before a certain age, it'll be hearder to learn them later17:46
MartijnVdSdavmor2: this is why Poles who learn Dutch speak VERY accent-free Dutch (phonemes match very well)17:47
dwatkinschristel: Jeg snakker ikke noe norsk, men jeg synes det høres kjempebra!17:47
christel:D17:47
christeljeg kan snakke norsk til deg når som helst ;)17:47
dwatkinsMartijnVdS: does hearing a language from an early age count?17:47
MartijnVdSdwatkins: I don't know, but I assume it helps17:48
dwatkinsI can't speak Dutch or Italian, Spanish nor any of the Nordic languages, but I've been hearing them all my life. I should probably try learning another language just to see.17:48
christelyes! learn norwegian :D17:49
MartijnVdSLearn Dutch! :)17:49
MartijnVdSLeer Nederlands!17:49
christelik wil een bier?17:53
MartijnVdSEen maar?17:53
christelja!17:53
christeli only know a tiny bit of dutch, which is not very suitable for -uk i suspect17:53
MartijnVdSAh, the first bits you learn of a language :)17:54
christel(neuken in the keuken op de tafel met een opblaasschaap?)17:54
MartijnVdSon the kitchen table? Really?17:55
MartijnVdS:P17:55
christeldefinitely ;)17:55
MartijnVdShttp://wonderingsinthefourthdimension.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/is-officially-word.htmlhttp://wonderingsinthefourthdimension.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/is-officially-word.html17:57
MartijnVdSur17:57
MartijnVdShttp://wonderingsinthefourthdimension.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/is-officially-word.html17:57
MartijnVdSjust once :)17:57
christelhehe18:01
christel<318:01
christeldr who <3 <3 <318:02
* christel does a little dance18:02
MartijnVdSYeah, did you see the new trailer?18:02
JamesTait'night all, have a great weekend, and try not to miss me too much over the next two weeks. :)18:03
JamesTait(Although I may actually be around from time to time)18:04
* JamesTait waves18:04
MartijnVdS\o JamesTait18:04
MartijnVdSJamesTait: have a nice 2 weeks :)18:04
MartijnVdSJamesTait: we'll send all the easy questions to your inbox ;)18:05
* JamesTait puts is fingers in his ears and redirects mail to /dev/null18:05
MartijnVdSJamesTait: !coc18:05
christelJamesTait: have a fantastic holiday, i will miss you!18:06
christel(i shall cry myself to sleep every night )18:07
MartijnVdSaww18:08
MartijnVdS\o/ new vlogbrothers video18:11
czajkowskievening18:19
MartijnVdS\o czajkowski18:20
Pendulumhiya czajkowski18:21
czajkowskihows folks18:21
* czajkowski has chinese and Criminal minds on, followed by some NCIS 18:22
czajkowskiyummy18:22
ali1234http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/random/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.png18:39
christeli have come to the conclusion that ian thorpe sounds like lloyd grossman would do if he was australian19:03
MartijnVdSchristel: speaking of nbames19:12
MartijnVdSchristel: try pronouncing the name of the Dutch swimmer who won gold yesterday :)19:12
MartijnVdSchristel: "Ranomi Kromowidjojo"19:13
christelhahaha19:15
MartijnVdSeven the Dutch commentators have problems with it :)19:15
christeli bet!19:15
MartijnVdShttp://foksuk.nl/content/formfield_files/formcartoon_8901_e579ffcc486e43821cea98bbd56b9ef08a297552.gif19:15
christelhahaha19:18
christeli love dutch, i can read it :D19:18
christelwell.. i can pick up a dutch newspaper and understand like 80% or something19:18
christel(where the missing 20% will be crucial of course...)19:19
MartijnVdS;)19:19
christelspeaking of dutch.. i was about to laze around but my favourite client in the entire world just emailed to say "shit, i forgot i needed this done by monday morning.. you can charge whatever urgency fee you fancy"19:19
christelhe is dutch19:19
christeli <3 him19:19
MartijnVdSNice :)19:19
* MartijnVdS watches the BBC program about the Antikythera mechanism19:21
MartijnVdS(I think it's still on iplayer)19:21
christelooh19:24
MartijnVdSchristel: there's one on Tetris as well (♥ Tetris)19:24
PendulumMartijnVdS: I'm not sure the American commentators even tried to be accurate. In fact, I think they tried to avoid saying the name at all so it was just "the dutch swimmer" quite a bit19:25
jacobwevening19:25
MartijnVdSPendulum: the Dutch commentators can pronounce the name but that comic makes fun of them trying :)19:26
MartijnVdS\o jacobw19:26
* jacobw resolves to watch more olympics19:27
* Flashtek staples zleap to popey 19:28
zleaphey19:28
popeyhmm?19:28
zleapi exited xchat in error and i get stapled to popey19:29
* zleap tries to get Flashtek to respond19:30
Flashtek:P19:30
zleapah19:30
diplo Evening all19:42
adddwguys anyone know how I can fix this error? :(19:49
adddwhttp://pastie.org/438562419:49
ali1234go back in time and stop yourself or whoever from deleting /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99update-notifier19:52
ali1234or19:52
ali1234just reinstall update-notifier and hope it replaces that file19:52
ali1234actually that might not be the missing file at all19:53
ali1234well, the alternative is /var/lib/update-notifier/ got deleted19:55
DJonesInteresting on twitter @RAtkinson1955 I can confirm, there will be one last episode of Blackadder, a reunion.20:00
MartijnVdSis it him though20:02
DJonesAppears to be20:02
MartijnVdSthere's no blue star of approvedness20:04
PendulumIt does look most likely to be real of the various "I'm Rowan Atkinson" twitter accounts20:05
MartijnVdStrue20:05
MartijnVdSI wonder.. did they use this picture knowing what the hand sign means in the uK? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/08/tea-party-republicans-sketch-out-internet-policy20:13
AzelphurFinally finished messing about with my PC, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/2012/July/IMG_20120803_220207.jpg :D21:05
MartijnVdSAzelphur: .. for the week?21:06
Azelphurprobably.21:06
matttwtf is that thing21:06
Azelphura computer21:07
matttAzelphur: are you old enough to have a car?21:09
Azelphurmattt: yep21:09
matttoh21:09
matttdo you own this?21:09
mattthttp://nimg.sulekha.com/business/original700/west-texas-custom-car-show-chevrolet-monte-carlo-2010-5-24-16-30-27.jpg21:09
Azelphurnope21:09
matttjust checking :)21:11
Azelphurhehe21:11
matttthat comp is crazy cool looking21:11
Azelphurty :D21:11
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diploAzelphur: Get the duster out man!22:10
Azelphurhaha22:11

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