[07:06] <diplo> aMorning all
[07:22] <christel> morning diplo :)
[07:23] <jussi> Hello all! Morrning diplo.
[07:23] <christel> morning jussi :)
[07:23] <jussi> christel: Im not talking to you. I was 10 mins away and you didnt come see me. :P
[07:24] <christel> haha i would if i'd known before you were like "so i am in farnborough but i am leaving in an hour" :P
[07:24] <jussi> well we only ended up in farnborough because we were just driving around and the road took us there...
[07:25] <christel> hehe
[07:26] <christel> i am so tired :(
[07:26] <jussi> but then that we went and visited a guy from the mer community, and he both scared and thrilled me... (he has a [very fast] Jaguar...)
[07:26] <jussi> then the boxter wasnt so fun anymore...
[07:27] <christel> haha
[07:27] <christel> i saw the car pics, you looked like you were enjoying it ;)
[07:28] <jussi> yeah, when I was in control...
[07:28] <diplo> :P
[07:31] <christel> hehe
[07:41] <christel> boys and their toys.. ;)
[07:46] <jacobw> morning
[07:51] <jacobw> i'm finding the controversy over jonah lehrer's misquoting of bob dylan confusing
[07:52] <jacobw> i don't care that he made this particular thing up, i still like his work
[07:56] <christel> hehe
[07:59] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[07:59] <christel> GOOD MORNING BIGCLAM
[08:00] <bigcalm> christel: sorry, no hangover today :P
[08:00] <bigcalm> christel: good morning my dear :)
[08:00] <christel> how are you lovelychops? :D
[08:00] <bigcalm> Heh
[08:01] <bigcalm> In need of a weekend. Lucky there is one starting in a few hours
[08:01] <bigcalm> How are you deary?
[08:02] <christel> i am in a slightly devilish mood but very very well :D
[08:03] <christel> thyself? :D
[08:03] <bigcalm> I thought that was your normal state
[08:03] <bigcalm> You've already asked that :P
[08:03] <christel> oh
[08:03] <christel> SEE i just pay no attention!
[08:04] <christel> i was enjoying some most delectable thoughts
[08:04] <christel> and pondering trying AlanBell for breakfast
[08:04] <christel> errrr
[08:04] <christel> AlanBell's eggs
[08:05] <bigcalm> It's an easy mistake to make. I've often confused AlanBell for his chickens...
[08:06] <christel> i'm not sure he'd fit in my frying pan ;)
[08:07] <AlanBell> I might have some eggs too
[08:07] <AlanBell> will try not to cook myself
[08:08] <christel> good morning breakfast!
[08:08] <christel> ;)
[08:08] <bigcalm> Haha
[08:09] <christel> i am unsure whether to fry, omelette, scramble or boil
[08:09] <christel> hrm hrm hrm
[08:09] <DJones> poached eggs
[08:09] <christel> ooh yes
[08:10] <christel> that sounds scrumptious actually
[08:10] <bigcalm> Poached for me please
[08:10] <christel> morning TheOpenSourcerer \o/
[08:10] <TheOpenSourcerer> yo christel et al.
[08:11]  * TheOpenSourcerer got overtaken on Shortheath road (residential) again this morning. because I stick to the 30mph speed limit. :-(
[08:11] <diplo> Complain to your local police station, I expect they could do with the revenue ?
[08:11] <TheOpenSourcerer> Why can't these idiots just get up a few minutes earlier? Then they wouldn't be in such a rush.
[08:12] <christel> haha
[08:12] <AlanBell> my mum does a constant 50mph on every road
[08:12] <diplo> tbh a few years ago I used to be like that
[08:12] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol
[08:12] <diplo> But I'm sloooow now
[08:12] <bigcalm> AlanBell: _every_ road?
[08:13] <AlanBell> bigcalm: motorways and everything
[08:13] <TheOpenSourcerer> I find it much less stressful having plenty of time to get somewhere, and it also amuses me to watch people getting more and more excitable in my rear view mirror ;-)
[08:13] <bigcalm> diplo: as you get older, you come the realise the cost of fuel, tyres, sanity. There little to actually rush for :)
[08:14] <diplo> yeah, that and now also the safety of my boys as well
[08:14] <TheOpenSourcerer> Having kids made me slow down on residential roads. I tend to not hold back on Motorways or dual carriageways etc.
[08:14] <bigcalm> AlanBell: economical on the motorways, not so healthy in a 20 zone
[08:14] <diplo> A lot less fiery as well, I was known to be a bit of a road rage and actually get out of the car to punch people in my early days
[08:14] <czajkowski> bigcalm: you do soound like a grumpy old 50 year old at times you know that right :)
[08:15]  * TheOpenSourcerer would probably have been punched by diplo had we crossed roads then ;-)
[08:16] <bigcalm> czajkowski: I can't avoid it, so I shall embrace it. My eyebrows are slowly turning white :D
[08:16] <christel> morning czajkowski <3
[08:16] <diplo> I rarely do more than 75/80 on motorways.. I drive to Plymouth a lot as my grans is theree and I used to drive down there at anywhere between 80-95 and one day I decided to see what it was like driving at 50/60 all the way
[08:16] <diplo> Took me 20 mins longer and saving me 1/4 a tank of fuel
[08:16] <TheOpenSourcerer> My nasal hair is now growing faster than that on my head.
[08:17] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: thanks for that lovely image
[08:17] <JamesTait> Happy Friday, folks! :-D
[08:17] <czajkowski> christel: ello elo;)
[08:17] <TheOpenSourcerer> czajkowski: for you. Anything my dear :-)
[08:17] <christel> hellooo JamesTait \o/
[08:17] <TheOpenSourcerer> Did we all see Adobe have released a nice new FOSS Font :-D
[08:17]  * JamesTait hugs christel 
[08:18] <christel> TheOpenSourcerer: why yes!
[08:18]  * christel hugs JamesTait 
[08:18] <TheOpenSourcerer> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/08/adobe-releases-source-sans-pro-a-new-open-source-font/
[08:18] <TheOpenSourcerer> Looks nice
[08:18] <czajkowski> it's all about fonts and branding you know :)
[08:19] <TheOpenSourcerer> Indeed. I like the idea they will be using it for their open source products. Wonder where they got that idea?
[08:19] <popey> they have open source products?
[08:20] <bigcalm> There is a need for a font family other than Ubuntu?
[08:20] <bigcalm> Morning popey
[08:20] <TheOpenSourcerer> They are making them now: http://brackets.io/
[08:21] <AlanBell> not massive glyph coverage in it
[08:22] <TheOpenSourcerer> yet...
[08:22] <TheOpenSourcerer> They are working on monospaced and greek & cyrillic
[08:22] <TheOpenSourcerer> It's opensource - release early, release often :-D
[08:24] <oimon> TheOpenSourcerer, nasal combover?
[08:24] <TheOpenSourcerer> Oooh nice idea oimon - although pulling them out with pliers has a certain masculinity that appeals to me ;-)
[08:26] <dwatkins> it's one way to initiate crying
[08:27] <diplo> I knew I was starting to age a bit when I had hair coming out on my back
[08:27] <diplo> :P
[08:27] <bigcalm> Why does pulling nasal hair cause one's eyes to water?
[08:28] <dwatkins> perhaps you're causing the tear-ducts to move
[08:28] <TheOpenSourcerer> Not for me - unless it is a full "Clump"...
[08:28] <bigcalm> This wins as the most OT convo :)
[08:28] <diplo> :P
[08:28] <TheOpenSourcerer> clump is rather a good word.
[08:28]  * dwatkins winces at the thought
[08:28] <bigcalm> TheOpenSourcerer: is that because you've had practice?
[08:29] <TheOpenSourcerer> Almost certainly bigcalm
[08:29] <popey> http://via.me/-3nnc98u#!/-3nmtvv0
[08:29] <bigcalm> popey: that's Space Boss' ride?
[08:29] <popey> yes
[08:30] <TheOpenSourcerer> is it big enough?
[08:30] <bigcalm> Does it blend?
[08:30] <TheOpenSourcerer> hah
[08:31] <oimon> bigcalm, but bum hairs are the same..longest hairs in the body, since they are connected to your eyeballs
[08:31] <jussi> oimon: I thought toe hairs had that title...
[08:31] <bigcalm> oimon: not something I've ever plucked to find out
[08:32] <dwatkins> "He's not a nosehair plucker, he's a nosehair plucker's son..."
[08:32] <oimon> i have a rogue bristly hair on the smooth underside of my wrist, keeps on reapparearing
[08:32] <jussi> its funny, in finnish we have different words for hair on your head and hair on your body...
[08:32] <TheOpenSourcerer> And how many words for snow jussi?
[08:33] <JamesTait> popey: That's a quite beautiful piece of machinery.
[08:33] <jussi> one is just "hair" the other translates to "fur"
[08:33] <dwatkins> jussi: what if the wrong kind of hair grows somewhere, e.g. thicker hair on the back which should be under the arms?
[08:33] <dwatkins> I guess that's still not on the head.
[08:33] <jussi> dwatkins: its all "fur"
[08:33] <jussi> :D
[08:34] <dwatkins> that makes me quite furry...
[08:34] <AlanBell> popey: that is a very fancy bus
[08:34] <oimon> traffic and trains around the olympics are super quiet
[08:34] <oimon> it's been a good week
[08:35] <dwatkins> via.me doesn't work if I block everything ghostery blocks.
[08:37] <TheOpenSourcerer> Did you all see Valve's news about game performance on Linux :-) http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/08/valves-optimizations-make-linux-port-of-l4d2-outperform-windows-version/
[08:39] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[08:39] <christel> morning brobostigon :)
[08:40] <brobostigon> morning christel :)
[08:40] <christel> why are you all sat there pulling hairs? :o
[08:40] <oimon> practising for when it's an olympic sport
[08:41] <christel> aah makes se.. no it doesnt
[08:41] <christel> :P
[08:41] <brobostigon> well, i am getting some hair loss.
[08:42] <oimon> still only have a couple of greys in my late 30s
[08:42] <oimon> it's not always an advantage
[08:42] <oimon> people think i'm a young whippersnapper who doesn't have 20yrs experience of using unix
[08:42] <christel> i have no idea if i have any grey hairs yet, i don't dare to not colour my hair in case i do
[08:42] <oimon> lol
[08:43] <TheOpenSourcerer> Age is no indicator for greyness. Just ask AlanBell ;-)
[08:44] <christel> ah but isnt he approaching 60? :x
[08:44]  * christel hides behind TheOpenSourcerer 
[08:44] <popey> he is approaching 60!
[08:44] <popey> very slowly, from behind
[08:44]  * TheOpenSourcerer ducks
[08:44] <christel> popey: haha <3
[08:46] <jussi> I just caught popey's second line and immediately thought of Gary_....
[08:46]  * AlanBell is indeed approaching 60
[08:46] <bigcalm> Naughty :)
[08:46] <AlanBell> will get there in 23 years or so
[08:47] <bigcalm> Puts it into perspective. 27 years to go for some of us :S
[08:47] <jussi> bigcalm: yes, that is a word I would use about Gary_ :P
[08:47] <bigcalm> Hah
[08:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> or just 13 years for some of us :-(
[08:48] <jussi> you old farts... I have 30 years to go...
[08:50] <diplo> Anyone know if Dustin Kirkland hangs about in any channels?
[08:51] <diplo> 24 for me :)
[08:51] <jussi> diplo: given he is in US, unlikely to be awakje atm
[08:51] <diplo> yeah, sorry meant for later
[08:52] <diplo> Just tinkering with some of his code and fancied a chat
[08:53] <jussi> yeah, he is around, in #ubuntu-devel iirc - nick also iirc is kirkland
[08:53] <jussi> a really nice guy
[08:53] <diplo> yeah followed him for years and blog, not a Canonical guy anymore though is he, went off to work on eCrypt
[08:54] <christel> TheOpenSourcerer: awww
[08:54] <TheOpenSourcerer> christel what?
[08:54] <christel> 13 years! (i am slow)
[08:55] <bigcalm> Twice as close as we are
[08:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> Oh - well yeah. I don't worry about it. I still "feel" like a big kid inside and probably always will :-D Much to wife's constant annoyance.
[08:55] <diplo> thanks jussi anyhoo
[08:55] <bigcalm> More than
[08:55] <christel> TheOpenSourcerer: for some reason that does not surprise me at all :P
[08:55] <jussi> diplo: he is present in #ubuntu-devel atm, but I guess not active
[08:56] <TheOpenSourcerer> Why do the Jocks have a day off on moday?
[08:56] <TheOpenSourcerer> s\Monday
[08:57] <diplo> I've joined to remind myself later, suppose I really ought to work now
[09:14] <bigcalm> TheOpenSourcerer: dunno, but they don't get the one at the end of the month that we get
[09:14] <bigcalm> Morning (early?) davmor2
[09:15] <ali1234> is SATA hotswappable?
[09:15] <AlanBell> ali1234: yes
[09:15] <ali1234> cool
[09:15] <davmor2> bigcalm: Yeap I'm gonna knock off a bit earlier I'm feeling a bit bluh
[09:15] <TheOpenSourcerer> Oh my - another chuck of possibly interesting leads appear in our inbox...
[09:16] <AlanBell> so they do
[09:16] <davmor2> morning all
[09:17] <oimon> u1 on my android never uploads my photos anymore, always seems to be logged out whenever i run it
[09:17] <oimon> :(
[09:17] <TheOpenSourcerer> And they keep on coming...
[09:18] <diplo> oimon: Only issue I get is "Failed to upload"
[09:18] <diplo> occasionally
[09:18] <diplo> I wish I could trace back a bit :/
[09:18] <oimon> i don't think it's trying anymore
[09:19] <oimon> wonder if it happens after a version update
[09:20] <oimon> also, my android foced updates on me the other day, even apps i chose to update manually, it suddenly decided to run all updates
[09:20] <oimon> that means i got the new g+ app :(
[09:20] <diplo> Guessing you don't like
[09:21] <oimon> seems to be very picture-centric, even if the picture is irrelevant
[09:21] <oimon> and text overlays pics
[09:21] <oimon> not clean like it was before
[09:21] <diplo> Quite like it now tbh
[09:21] <ali1234> you need to get android 4
[09:21] <ali1234> it has all different apps and they are much better
[09:21] <oimon> not sure it will be out for my htc
[09:22] <oimon> still v early days for my touchpad too
[09:22] <gord> i'll prolly get android 4 when everyone else has android 8. slowpoke.jpg
[09:24] <oimon> so far i haven't seen super compelling reason to want JB
[09:24] <gord> its better, but its not £400 better
[09:25] <popey> i thought performance was the big thing?
[09:25] <TheOpenSourcerer> 4.1
[09:25] <diplo> oimon: What v you on for U One on android ?
[09:25] <oimon> performance will be a big thing in cyanogen's version
[09:25] <oimon> since they get the linaro massive improvements
[09:25] <gord> there are nice things like being able to block notifications and stuff
[09:26] <oimon> diplo, 1.2.2
[09:26] <gord> but googles new standards for the play store might help stop airpush stuff anyway
[09:26] <diplo> yeah same... odd then it's not working
[09:26] <diplo> mine only uploads photos on wifi
[09:26] <diplo> and only once a day i think
[09:27] <oimon> ok, it's working now i've logged in
[09:27] <oimon> but not retrospectively
[09:27] <oimon> maybe it's either when i turn phone off, or the version updated, but i had to login first
[09:27] <Flashtek> morning all
[09:28] <oimon> ah, it is working retrospectively now
[09:29] <Flashtek> popey: you seen my bug perchance ?
[09:29] <oimon> another annoying thing is that google play insists on installing google books, 9MB
[09:29] <popey> Flashtek, nope, bug number?
[09:29] <Flashtek> bug 1032306
[09:29] <oimon> have to remove it manually until play updates the next time, and screws my phone
[09:29] <popey> thanks
[09:32] <popey> Flashtek, doesn't crash here
[09:32] <popey> Flashtek, it wont let me get past the "Who are you?" screen without putting a name in
[09:32] <Flashtek> popey: lol
[09:32] <Flashtek> popey: might be Kubuntu specific then I guess ??
[09:33] <popey> oh, kubuntu, didnt notice that
[09:33]  * popey gets an iso
[09:34] <oimon> what phone are they using in the latest ubuntu android video?
[09:34] <oimon> and dock
[09:34] <popey> which video?
[09:34] <popey> i think they're using a nexus
[09:34] <oimon> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/ubuntu-for-android-demoed-on-video-at-fisl
[09:35] <oimon> having this would make me buy a HD telly. get home and pop the phone into the dock in font of telly
[09:35] <Flashtek> brb, brekky awaits
[09:35] <AlanBell> same one as before with the landscape dock I think oimon
[09:36] <popey> no that video is still the motorola atrix 2
[09:36] <oimon> the first time it was the atrix i though
[09:36] <popey> you can see motorola along the top of the name of the phone
[09:37] <diplo> oimon: Read the comments ( first one is translated ) they say it's the Atrix2 in the translation
[09:37] <oimon> just saw that, cheers. tend to avoid the comments this early in the day ;D
[09:38] <ali1234> it's always been the atrix2...
[09:38] <ali1234> and accessing android features within the guest OS has always been possible on those phones
[09:38] <oimon> i don't have sound on this pc, but i can tell he's talking balearic/spanish/portgu
[09:40] <oimon> "But the telephone companies that are working with us to bring this pre-installed on phones are targeting the next generation that is quad-core with 1.5GB and 2GB."
[09:40] <diplo> yeah portugese, I couldn't last the whole video :P
[09:41] <oimon> didn't atrix have a laptop style device you could plug the phone into too?
[09:42] <oimon> wonder if it's wishful thinking to think that in the future we could have hot desks at work and just plug our mobiles in like this
[09:43] <AlanBell> I think the ubuntu for android thing is quite plausible as a product
[09:43] <oimon> i for one am holding out for it
[09:44] <AlanBell> it gives the manufacturers some kind of justification for putting quad core chips in phones
[09:44] <ali1234> it's completely plausible
[09:44] <ali1234> they already sell it with their own toy distro on it
[09:44] <ali1234> which was based on ubuntu
[09:45] <ali1234> putting a properly supported distro on it can only be an improvement
[09:45] <popey> its got some nice integration too
[09:45] <popey> like accessing your phone contacts in thunderbird
[09:45] <ali1234> sure.
[09:46] <ali1234> if they are making a second one, the first one must have done ok
[09:46] <ali1234> even without any of that
[09:46] <popey> AlanBell, who has my usb3 caddy?
[09:46] <AlanBell> popey: I do
[09:46] <popey> cool
[09:46] <oimon> ali1234, my impression is thht they are working with vendors to release this as a thing, not just a homebrew feature
[09:46] <ali1234> oimon: of course
[09:47] <popey> there's no money in it if it's homebrew
[09:47] <ali1234> putting a real official ubuntu instead of a half-cut self rolled distro is a win for everyone
[09:47] <diplo> Any samba/wins people here? Issue being
[09:47] <oimon> i've never seen an atrixx in the UK. everyone is htc, apple and samsng   my circles
[09:47] <diplo> We have a customer who we vpn into
[09:47] <gord> on the topic, it would be pretty stupid of me to expose a samba server to the internet because i'm too lazy to setup a vpn right?
[09:48] <diplo> A machine(s) are configured i think to look at our ip range incorrectly and are filling /var/log/messages on ,lots of our servers with
[09:48] <ali1234> gord: yes
[09:48] <ali1234> setting up a vpn isn't even that hard
[09:48] <oimon> gord, when i used samba actively, there were vulneriabilites aplenty
[09:48] <diplo> process_name_reqyest nmbd Error should be sent to a WINS Server
[09:48] <gord> i don't think you are grasping just how lazy i want to be
[09:48] <diplo> Want to know how to trace back to what is causing this ?
[09:48] <ali1234> it's easier than setting up samba, that's for sure
[09:49] <gord> maybe i could just run a ps3mediaserver and expose that
[09:49] <diplo> I'm guessing dns ?
[09:49] <gord> i already have samba setup
[09:49] <ali1234> just buy a qnap nas, they have vpn built in
[09:49] <oimon> gord, for a windows client to access?
[09:49] <gord> for anything i have to access
[09:49] <diplo> What are you wanting to do with it gord ?
[09:50] <diplo> access what specifically
[09:50] <gord> i have ooodles of bandwidth now, so i want to stream my ripped dvd collection from whereever i am in the world instead of copying onto my laptop all the time
[09:51] <oimon> gord, use vlc?
[09:51] <popey> I'd just put apache on an odd port and put a .htaccess in the root
[09:52] <popey> and stream over http
[09:52] <diplo> I stream my music via a web app
[09:53] <TheOpenSourcerer> Jessica Ennis just broke the 100m hurdle WR in the heptathlon. :-)
[09:53] <oimon> gord, you are giving the impression that you leave the house
[09:54] <oimon> TheOpenSourcerer, in the heat?
[09:54] <diplo> http://videojs.com/
[09:54] <diplo> http://labs.official.fm/codecs/mp3/
[09:54] <oimon> is it still ramadan btw?
[09:55] <czajkowski> hmm
[09:55] <czajkowski> anyone run JB and run 12.04 , can you connect your phone and move files to it ??
[09:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> oimon: Dunno if a heat or the final - Wouldn't have thought there would be elimination rounds in the Heptathlon somehow.
[09:55] <oimon> i thin kit's heats atm
[09:55] <gord> oimon: often for weeks at a time!
[09:55] <diplo> gord: I've actually used this one http://jplayer.org/
[09:56] <diplo> And I am writing my own web page for my server at home for it
[09:56] <popey> two weeks in copenhagen coming up!
[09:56] <christel> <3 copenhagen
[09:56] <oimon> my sister lives there for 4 years, and i haven't visited yet :S
[09:56] <christel> shocking!
[09:56] <Dave2> Butter chicken at India Palace. Have it.
[09:57] <christel> denmark is loovely
[09:57] <oimon> mainly due to having baby and not liking planes
[09:57] <czajkowski> oimon: :o shocking
[09:57] <gord> i don't think i'll do two weeks this time ;)
[09:57] <gord> maybe can skip uds entirely
[09:57] <czajkowski> gord: booo but then I wont see you
[09:57] <czajkowski> :(
[09:57] <oimon> now mrs oimon is preg again i don't think we will go for another 2 years at least
[09:57] <czajkowski> one less box of tea bags I suppose
[09:57] <czajkowski> oimon: you know babies can go on planes you know :)
[09:57] <christel> babies LOVE planes
[09:57]  * christel nods
[09:58] <gord> yes, all that loud crying that makes my journey miserable is just a sign of how much they enjoy it
[09:59] <oimon> it's not fair to travellers to take a baby < 1yr on a plane
[09:59] <diplo> I still haven' taken mine
[09:59] <czajkowski> gord: not all do, but yeah some do and it's mostly the 2-4 year old that will not sit still or kick chairs that I have issues with
[09:59]  * AlanBell pictures babies enjoying flying while gord crys miserably
[09:59] <gord> was sitting next to a small child on a plane once, every time i woke up he seemed to have grown until there was a full grown adult man next to me. i think the family was just messing with me
[09:59] <oimon> besides, it's usually a 4hr wait at the aorport, and not exactly conducive to stressfree living
[09:59] <popey> wat
[09:59] <czajkowski> gord: lol
[10:00] <christel> oimon: nah small babies are easiest, you just feed them and they are most happy
[10:00] <oimon> our family are in agreement anyway :)
[10:01] <christel> gord: haha
[10:01]  * TheOpenSourcerer recalls flying back from St Lucia in Virgin Upper Class with our 1.5yr old who cried all the way. We were NOT Mr & Mrs popular on that flight ;-)
[10:01] <oimon> especially as long haul flights expose babies to huge amounts of radiation...
[10:02] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: aye long haul is damn hard on people
[10:02] <czajkowski> oimon: eh ?says who
[10:02] <TheOpenSourcerer> Not in Upper Class it isn't (normally)
[10:02] <TheOpenSourcerer> Used to travel all the time.
[10:02] <oimon> in my flying days i took a flight from new york full of american schoolgirl/cheerleader types
[10:03] <TheOpenSourcerer> Gold VIP with BA and always turned left when entering the plane. No longer though :-(
[10:03] <TheOpenSourcerer> Not now I have to pay for it myself.
[10:03] <oimon> A typical dose rate is 0.5 mrem per hour of flight. so a 12hr flight is the same as a chest xray
[10:03] <christel> AlanBell: you need sell more stuff so that TheOpenSourcerer can fly in style!
[10:04] <oimon> so that level of radation is harmful for little children
[10:04] <TheOpenSourcerer> What a great idea christel
[10:05] <christel> ;)
[10:05] <ikonia> sell a child ?
[10:05] <TheOpenSourcerer> See that MS looks like it has to drop the "Metro" name... Now calling it Windows 8 UI Style or something
[10:05] <ikonia> why has it had to drop the name?
[10:05] <TheOpenSourcerer> Trademark infringement I guess.
[10:06] <AlanBell> someone else got there first and it isn't generic enough apparently
[10:06] <ikonia> oh dear
[10:06] <ikonia> you'd thing this sort of thing would be checked before release.
[10:06] <TheOpenSourcerer> they obviously didn't consider Germany.
[10:07] <ikonia> Metro is quite a big name in the USA though with parts of the transport system
[10:07] <oimon> they should call it patio instead
[10:07] <AlanBell> yes, it probably is generic in America
[10:07] <TheOpenSourcerer> Decking!
[10:07] <TheOpenSourcerer> (tm)
[10:07] <oimon> it was actually european partners who complained
[10:07] <TheOpenSourcerer> I Got there first folks
[10:08] <directhex> oimon, assuming all forms of radiation react the same way to all things they come into contact with, your numbers work. humans aren't affected equally by cosmic rays and x-rays
[10:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> Parquet!
[10:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> (C)
[10:08] <ali1234> they should call it sqrz (all lower case)
[10:08] <ali1234> or even better sq.rz
[10:09] <oimon> 100 hours of flying in a year gives you approximately 50% more total radiation exposure than those who never fly. The biggest study says
[10:09] <oimon> you have nothing to fear. The FAA suggest that your increased rate of getting cancer is 0.005% for each year that you fly for 90 hours.
[10:09] <oimon> maybe they prefer children not to fly because it gives them longer to develop diseases
[10:09] <oimon> http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/252712.html
[10:10] <oimon> does anyone else get google books force-installed on their android?
[10:10] <TheOpenSourcerer> oimon: nope. Don't think so.
[10:10] <bigcalm> Can you have a git repo with some svn externals in it? It sounds nuts, but I don't want to keep a load of externals in my own project repo
[10:11] <TheOpenSourcerer> oimon: yes. It is installed. Says I can uninstall it though.
[10:11] <oimon> TheOpenSourcerer, yeah, until next time google market updates
[10:12] <oimon> then it reinstalls
[10:12] <oimon> swallows 9mb of precious memory and stops my phone working, since it's below the 15mb limit
[10:12] <TheOpenSourcerer> oimon: Yes - it didn't really remove itself. Just flagged for update.
[10:12] <TheOpenSourcerer> I don't use it but not really bothered tbh.
[10:13] <oimon> more of an issue if you have lack of sapce
[10:13] <oimon> even running apps on SD card takes internal memory for me
[10:13] <TheOpenSourcerer> Ahh - I have an SIII
[10:13] <oimon> big space?
[10:14] <oimon> not sure where all my spce goes
[10:14] <TheOpenSourcerer> 16GB I think.
[10:14] <diplo> oimon: Same issue, clear browser cache clears up some
[10:14] <diplo> There are certain logs you can clear if you are rooted?
[10:14] <oimon> diplo, yeah, i had to find a bookmark backup program
[10:15] <oimon> because clear cache didn't clear it but remove data did
[10:15] <TheOpenSourcerer> yeah I have 11.35GB free.
[10:15] <diplo> From when I read up, it's to do with /System logs
[10:15] <oimon> diplo, would be interested to hear more :D
[10:16] <oimon> htc desire?
[10:17] <diplo> It was my colleagues desire yeah
[10:17] <diplo> I've got the Wildfire, I just don't run as many apps anymore.. made my life easier
[10:17] <diplo> Will see if i can find the page
[10:17] <oimon> ta
[10:18] <oimon> i only just got the bluetooth working for my car , after 18 months. there was an issue with my install of CM
[10:18] <oimon> never found the right page to fix it until the other day
[10:21] <diplo> So yes it was the System Data dir
[10:21] <diplo> App called DisUsage which will display that
[10:22] <oimon> no K ?
[10:22] <diplo> heh, yeah K
[10:22] <diplo> :)
[10:22] <diplo> Sorry!
[10:22] <oimon> :D
[10:22] <oimon> found a load of spanish apps instead
[10:22] <oimon> have it now
[10:23] <diplo> You can only delete from System Data if you have root, but if you have cm i guess you have root
[10:23] <oimon> system data has 123mb free space
[10:23]  * directhex moos
[10:23] <oimon> my phone think it has only 15mb left
[10:23] <oimon> am i doing something wrong?
[10:23] <popey> Flashtek, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/111805873/ubiquity.png
[10:24] <ali1234> popey: backing up a hard drive on dd, and my machine is freezing badly
[10:24] <popey> :(
[10:24] <ali1234> so it's not just USB
[10:24] <oimon> ali1234, i get that when updating apps
[10:24] <popey> oh interesting
[10:24] <oimon> kernel update the other day froze my pc for ages
[10:24] <diplo> oimon: Just going to try it myself, I think it wants to keep a certain amount of space
[10:24] <ali1234> this is SATA
[10:25] <diplo> But.. what you are trying to find is large log files
[10:25] <oimon> diplo, but i have 123mb free?
[10:25] <oimon> in system
[10:27] <oimon> if i search app storage, i am told that i have 147mb capacity, 15mb  free
[10:27] <oimon> wonder if i can expand this partition
[10:28] <diplo> Don't think this is correct app maybe
[10:33] <oimon> diplo, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.thedarken.sdm&hl=en ?
[10:34] <diplo> Looks good, given it a try ?
[10:34] <oimon> just trying it
[10:35] <oimon> tablets/phones don't really lend themselves to tidy filesystems
[10:36] <oimon> should prob take a backup before doing this...
[10:36] <diplo> Id say so :P
[10:36] <directhex> webos managed to be LVM-based, so resizing wasn't hell
[10:36] <oimon> but nevertheless..
[10:37] <oimon> no, i'm gonna backup
[10:37] <oimon> :D
[10:41] <oimon> directhex, i heard openwebos won't be available for the touchpad !
[10:42] <directhex> oimon, apparently. something about hp's dodgy kernels being full of non-upstreamed vendor nonsense, and openwebos needing kernel 3.1+ or somesuch
[10:42] <oimon> complete fail
[10:42] <directhex> indeed
[10:42] <oimon> one of those things they had to make happen or else
[10:43] <oimon> lose the entire communiuty
[10:43] <oimon> saying that, i haven't booted into webos since the day i installed android
[10:48] <oimon> can i encrpyt stuff stored on u1?
[10:48] <popey> yes
[10:49] <popey> i have encrypted stuff in my u1 folder
[10:49] <oimon> what's the best way?
[10:49] <TheOpenSourcerer> keepass FTW!
[10:50] <oimon> e.g. i have a phone backup folder which is large with many subfolders
[10:52] <Flashtek> popey: yes, that's the screen :-)
[10:53] <popey> i best way to do what?
[10:55] <popey> i keep a gpg encrypted file in my u1, i use vim to edit it, and use gnupg.vim to automagically decrypt and re-encrypt it when I save it
[10:55] <popey> oimon, compress it, gpg encrypt it, put it in your u1 folder
[10:56] <oimon> oh, "you don't have the right permissions to creaet an archive in the dest folder"
[10:56] <oimon> bug i wonder?
[10:57] <oimon> ah, the location was set to none by default
[10:58] <davmor2> TheOpenSourcerer: how you getting on with your s3 and does it have an sd card slot too?
[10:59] <TheOpenSourcerer> davmor2: Love the phone. Yes it has a slot, not that I have used it.
[11:00] <TheOpenSourcerer> Obviously it is a uSD
[11:00] <davmor2> TheOpenSourcerer: mine only gets used for photos so that is not an issue
[11:01] <oimon> cheers popes i will do that
[11:01] <TheOpenSourcerer> This is several orders of magnitude better in many ways compared to my earlier phone (Dell Streak). Battery Life, Weight, Screen, Camera, Speed blah blah blah.
[11:02] <davmor2> TheOpenSourcerer: I'm sensing and like smile about to appear :)
[11:06] <popey> hehe dell streak
[11:07] <ali1234> y u no like dell streak?
[11:07] <TheOpenSourcerer> It was great when it first appeared.
[11:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> But that was 2 1/3 years ago (eons in mobile)
[11:08] <ali1234> true
[11:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> And Dell rather fscked up on a few things like support and updates etc.
[11:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> Then they decided to drop the whole Android thing.
[11:09] <oimon> dell aren't very good at the mobile type device space yet
[11:09] <TheOpenSourcerer> Was their only phone too.
[11:09] <TheOpenSourcerer> It did show rather.
[11:09] <popey> time for an ubuntu dell phone :D
[11:09] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol
[11:10] <oimon> arrgh stupid gui
[11:10] <davmor2> popey: the Ubuntell phone :D
[11:10] <popey> DellBuntu Phone
[11:10] <oimon> removing files on sd card requires emptying the rubbish bin, always forget that
[11:13] <directhex> symlink the trash dir to /dev/null!
[11:29] <jacobw> i don't like that behaviour
[11:31] <jacobw> imo, the trash should be in the home directory of the user running nautilus and only for trash from that filesystem, on other files systems the 'move to trash' option should be replaced by the 'delete' option
[11:33] <jacobw> i think unity on a phone would look like windows phone :|
[11:34] <jacobw> android's interface is like WIMP with pointer replaced with dragger
[11:36] <directhex> unity on a phone wouldn't look anything like windows phone?
[11:36] <directhex> it'd look like webos rotated 90 degrees :)
[11:54] <Pendulum> hiya
[11:57] <christel> hiya pretty <3
[11:57] <Pendulum> christel: how're you today?
[11:58] <christel> i am very well thank you! how are you? :)
[11:58] <Pendulum> I am good :)
[11:58] <christel> \o/
[11:58] <christel> i have come to realise that it is very nearly christmas, this makes me very excited :D
[11:59] <Pendulum> :)
[12:01]  * Pendulum hugs christel
[12:02]  * christel hugs Pendulum 
[12:07] <czajkowski> hmm I think I need to rewatch all of last seasons Dr. Who
[12:08] <czajkowski> christel: no no no months away from christmas!
[12:08] <czajkowski> dont be bringing that closer
[12:11] <Pendulum> czajkowski: too much to do?
[12:12] <czajkowski> so_much_to_do
[12:12] <czajkowski> I do know I'm going back to Ireland though
[12:12] <czajkowski> this bit I've worked out
[12:12] <czajkowski> possibly on the 22nd
[12:12] <czajkowski> Pendulum: http://yfrog.com/oelw1iaj  join me in my giggles
[12:17] <christel> czajkowski: pfft only 4! :D
[12:17] <christel> time to start getting ready :D:D:D
[12:18] <czajkowski> christel: hush up you
[12:18] <christel> haha
[12:18] <Dave2> gah but it's only just been christmas
[12:18] <Dave2> I'll need to think of what to buy for people and stuff :(
[12:18] <christel> Dave2: tis aaages ago
[12:18] <christel> Dave2: Pretty Things \o/
[12:19] <Dave2> I don't know what things are pretty :(
[12:20] <christel> aw
[12:20] <czajkowski> oh shopping for people I find is very easy
[12:20] <Dave2> I find it incredibly difficult unless I've been explicitly told what people want
[12:21] <czajkowski> nope I get them things I know they would love but dont buy themselves
[12:21] <czajkowski> so much fun
[12:21] <czajkowski> problem is to not buy too much :)
[12:21] <Dave2> I have no idea what people would love \o/
[12:22] <Dave2> I think I end up relying on suggestions from my mum
[12:22] <christel> you are so useless
[12:22] <christel> i should teach you how to shop
[12:22] <christel> it is very easy
[12:22] <christel> and oh so fun!
[12:24] <Dave2> It's hard!
[12:24] <Dave2> So hard.
[12:24] <czajkowski> Dave2: wish lists on amazon is also handy
[12:24] <Dave2> I normally end up going to shops and then leaving with less of an idea than I had before.
[12:25] <Dave2> czajkowski: I don't think anyone I have to buy for has one of them
[12:25] <christel> oh
[12:26] <christel> is it because you're so short you cant really see anything unless it is displayed on the floor?
[12:26] <Dave2> :(
[12:27] <MartijnVdS> Dave2: don't buy anything for them, when they ask, tell them they should have made an amazon wishlist
[12:27] <MartijnVdS> Problem: Solved!
[12:27] <christel> fear not my small friend i will pray for you and wish for the fleas of a thousand camels to infest the armpits of all your enemies!
[12:28] <czajkowski> Dave2: http://www.thorntons.co.uk/pages/category/category.asp?ctgry=Hampers%20And%20Gift%20Boxes&cookie_test=1  worked wonders last year for people
[12:28] <christel> Pendulum: i can see you thinking it, no i have not been drinking :o
[12:29] <christel> <3 thorntons
[12:30] <Dave2> MartijnVdS: hah
[12:30] <Pendulum> christel: did you ever do your drinking last night? ;)
[12:30] <Dave2> czajkowski: WE'RE SORRY BUT WE CAN'T FIND THAT PAGE
[12:30] <Dave2> Although the URL is fairly descriptive
[12:30] <Dave2> So I can make a guess
[12:30] <christel> Pendulum: i had a couple of pints of TEA in your honour
[12:30] <Pendulum> christel: that works ;)
[12:31] <Dave2> Is that TEA as in the beer, or tea as in tea?
[12:32] <czajkowski> Dave2: http://www.thorntons.co.uk/c/Hampers%20And%20Gift%20Boxes_Chocolate%20And%20Toffee%20Hampers.html
[12:32] <christel> Dave2: as in the beer
[12:33] <czajkowski> bettter than the evil ICE tea!
[12:33] <czajkowski> WRONG!
[12:39] <dwatkins> I discovered today that Lift is the German version of Lilt, not iced tea as I'd thought.
[12:40] <bigcalm> That would be a rude awakening for your tastebuds
[12:41] <czajkowski> Lilt is nice
[12:41] <czajkowski> ice tea is awful
[12:42] <bigcalm> ¬.¬
[12:42] <bigcalm> Ice'd tea can be wonderfully refreshing (if done correctly)
[12:43] <directhex> lilt is the devil
[12:43] <directhex> allergenic evilness
[12:43] <bigcalm> Rather like Irn Bru. Ice cold it's ok. Any warmer and it's disgusting
[12:43] <directhex> or was in the early 90's
[12:43] <directhex> irn bru is also allergenic evil ;)
[12:43] <directhex> drink fewer orange drinks!
[12:44] <czajkowski> it's addictive
[12:44] <dwatkins> bigcalm: a friend suggested an interesting cold remedy - warm up beer on the hob and down it, you'll sleep really well, although it tastes awful.
[12:44] <czajkowski> I think we're down to 6 packs of 8
[12:44] <directhex> note: orange flavoured drinks are generally yellow. and the orange colour which causes problems is called sunset yellow
[12:44] <bigcalm> :S
[12:44] <czajkowski> we had about 12 at one point recently
[12:44] <czajkowski> ocadoo deliver is rather handy :)
[12:44] <dwatkins> directhex: yeah, I'm allergic to Sunset Yellow (hyperactive)
[12:44] <czajkowski> lol
[12:44] <dwatkins> czajkowski: I tried to sign-up, but they don't deliver in Edinburgh :(
[12:45] <czajkowski> I wouldnt deliver there either :p
[12:45] <czajkowski> far too north
[12:45] <directhex> these days i have mostly been drinking fentiman's cherrytree cola
[12:45] <dwatkins> haha, yeah it is a long way from London....
[12:45] <dwatkins> (assuming you're in London etc.)
[12:45] <dwatkins> I like Edinburgh, it doesn't have annoying traffic and the view from the office is fantastic :)
[12:47] <czajkowski> I am in London
[12:48] <christel> irn bru \o/
[12:49] <dwatkins> I think Edinburgh's about 450 miles north of London; it has pretty much the same weather, though.
[12:50] <czajkowski> wish pinttrest had an android app
[12:50] <czajkowski> viewing on phone is annoying
[12:51] <dwatkins> "We're working on a dedicated Android app," the Pinterest website says. "We know lots of folks are eager to see one, so when we feel we're in the final stages of its development, we'll be sure to share more information."
[12:51] <christel> czajkowski: when i come back from viking land i shall venture into london and do something lovely with you <3
[12:51] <directhex> pinterest is reddit for handbags, right?
[12:51] <christel> pinterest is <3
[12:52] <diplo> http://ubuntuone.com/1jPOSDL5MOAo4kWVJAbR6a
[12:53]  * davmor2 has just opened a bottle of fentimans ginger beer one of the best
[12:53] <czajkowski> dwatkins: dont be  so dismissive
[12:53] <czajkowski> bah
[12:53] <diplo> lunch \o/
[12:53] <czajkowski> directhex: dont be so dismissive!
[12:53] <christel> i have no idea how i parsed fentimans as feminist
[12:53] <christel> but i did
[12:53] <czajkowski> christel: sounds like a fantastic plan I have an opening in my diary for early september
[12:53] <christel> i dont think i have ever tried ginger beer :o
[12:54] <christel> czajkowski: woop! what would you like to do on our Magical Date? :D
[12:54] <bigcalm> Is there anything happening latest September?
[12:54] <christel> bigcalm: YES! you are going down south \o/
[12:54] <christel> (we must Arrange Some Sort of Amazingness for when you're down -- someone should tell the social secretary)
[12:54] <bigcalm> christel: what should happen do you think?
[12:55] <christel> bigcalm: BEER
[12:55] <christel> :D
[12:55] <christel> or water polo
[12:55] <bigcalm> Beer is good :D
[12:55] <bigcalm> LOL, what?
[12:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> Christel - Try Crabbies. It's rather lovely. Esp. the "Black" version @ 6% http://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2011/08/halewood-launches-crabbies-black/
[12:55] <christel> bigcalm: it is my new fascination, how do the horses not drown?
[12:55] <christel> TheOpenSourcerer: oooh  thankee <3
[12:55] <directhex> i don't like most fentiman's stuff, but the cherrytre is great
[12:56] <bigcalm> christel: I have always wondered that myself
[12:58] <diplo> oimon: How was SD Miad?
[12:58] <diplo> Maid* anygood ?
[12:59] <oimon> diplo, just back from lunch
[12:59] <oimon> ran it while in the pub, regained over 10MB
[12:59] <oimon> :D
[12:59] <diplo> Better than a kick in the rear.. still only 10mb
[13:00]  * TheOpenSourcerer has to get up *very* early tomorrow to get to London E20 for 07:30am
[13:00] <oimon> still wonder why there's 125 mb free somehwere else that isn't used
[13:01] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: ouchies
[13:02] <TheOpenSourcerer> Going to watch some Hockey
[13:04] <bigcalm> TheOpenSourcerer: unless it's on ice, I wouldn't be getting up that early
[13:04] <TheOpenSourcerer> Unless it get unseasonably cold I don't expect there to be ice.
[13:08] <oimon> mens or wimmins?
[13:09] <Pendulum> christel: I just saw a Norwegian woman run as part of the heptathlon. I thought of you ;)
[13:12] <christel> \o/
[13:13] <daubers> christel is in the heptathlon AND on IRC AT THE SAME TIME????????
[13:13] <christel> MULTITASKING BABY MULTITASKING
[13:15] <oimon> what gui tool do people use for encrypting files?
[13:15] <oimon> i thought nautilus did it?
[13:16] <popey> i use gpg on the cli
[13:18] <diplo> You can get scripts to use via nautilus to encrypt / decrypt
[13:20] <oimon> diplo, yeah thats what i had in mind, couldn't find it though
[13:20] <Pendulum> daubers: it's mind controlled IRCing so she can IRC from anywhere ;)
[13:20] <diplo> Some on gnome-look.org
[13:21] <oimon> seahorse
[13:21] <oimon> seahorse-nautilus to be precise
[13:27] <DJones> I thought christel was a bot, online 24/7
[13:28] <christel> why yes!
[13:31] <bigcalm> I've run out of weak lemon drink due to popey quitting
[13:31] <davmor2> christel: you pay a BABY to MULTITASK man you're harsh
[13:31] <popey> that thing where you mis-click in the launcher and open nautilus, then realise "I didn't want that" and close the window only to find it closes the window underneath.. xchat
[13:31] <popey> tthat
[13:31] <bigcalm> Yay Unity ;)
[13:32] <popey> nautilus bug :)
[13:32] <bigcalm> Yay lunch time shower!
[13:33] <davmor2> oimon: have you had a look for nautilus plugins
[13:33] <popey> bug 781931
[13:33] <popey> fixed yesterday
[13:34] <oimon> davmor2, i installed seahorse-nautilus, but it doesn't seem to have aded an option to nautilus
[13:35] <davmor2> popey: man that's an old bug it's still in 6 digits ;)
[13:35] <davmor2> oimon: in precise or quantal?
[13:35] <oimon> 12.04
[13:35] <davmor2> oimon: and did you look to see if you need to enable it in nautilus?
[13:36] <davmor2> oimon: some gnome apps do it by default some of them don't
[13:36] <oimon> davmor2, can't seem to see any options in nautilus
[13:36] <oimon> that would enable it
[13:37] <oimon> also if i choose the compress otion, the password bit is greyed out, so maybe i'm missing a pacakge
[13:38] <oimon> i think i'm running lubuntu so i might have something missing :S
[13:42] <popey> never a truer word..
[13:42] <oimon> :D
[13:44] <TheOpenSourcerer> Blimey - just rang a lead and the bloke who answered sounded like someone from the "Royle family" - I failed to grok much of what he said... Scouser.
[13:46] <christel> did he buy all the things?
[13:46] <TheOpenSourcerer> I have no idea. Couldn't really understand what he said.
[13:46] <christel> haha
[13:46] <christel> bless
[13:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> He made John Bishop sound totally south.
[13:47] <christel> haha
[13:58]  * bigcalm returns clean
[13:59] <bigcalm> Hayley went to uni. in Liverpool. When we went to see John Bishop on stage, Hayley started sounding rather scouse afterwards
[13:59] <oimon> http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/draconian-wifi-police-stalk-olympic-games-20120803-23jdc.html
[13:59] <oimon> lol
[14:00] <oimon> the wifi police
[14:06] <christel> bigcalm: i say!
[14:08] <bigcalm> Rather
[14:08] <christel> this amuses me
[14:08] <christel> (scouse hayley that is)
[14:08] <bigcalm> Hehe
[14:09] <christel> i had a weird phonecall just now
[14:09] <christel> from someone i'd apparently given my business card to
[14:09] <christel> only i cant remember ever meeting them
[14:09] <christel> which makes me think i could have been drunk
[14:09] <christel> and that i might have said something daft
[14:11]  * TheOpenSourcerer finds both those assumptions hard to believe. </sarcasm>
[14:11] <bigcalm> ;D
[14:12] <christel> :P
[14:14] <davmor2> christel: How dare you associate your name and the word drunk....oh wait sober I always get them the wrong way round :D
[14:14] <christel> haha
[14:15] <davmor2> christel: do you like Cafferies?
[14:15] <christel> i like caffeeine?
[14:16] <davmor2> christel: sorry I spelt it completely wrong http://www.marketingmagazine.co.uk/news/989571/
[14:20] <christel> i shall looksie
[14:21] <christel> i think i need new business cards, my inability to do Grown Up and Serious means that i now think people call because They Have The Completely Wrong End of The Stick
[14:21] <christel> (http://repogirl.net/card.jpg)
[14:22] <christel> (and my phone takes really shitty pictures)
[14:22] <diplo> christel: That's your business card ?
[14:22] <christel> yes
[14:22] <christel> :)
[14:22] <diplo> :D
[14:22] <bigcalm> !ohmy | christel
[14:22] <diplo> It's great!
[14:22]  * diplo spanks bigcalm 
[14:22] <christel> the "young" is rapidly becoming a bit of a lie mind
[14:22] <christel> :)
[14:22] <bigcalm> Heh
[14:23] <davmor2> christel: I have no idea why that would give the wrong impression, especially if located in a London Phone Box for example :D
[14:23] <christel> davmor2: haha but that is where i get *all* my business!
[14:25]  * davmor2 now sees christel in a new light ala http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093727/
[14:25] <diplo> bigcalm: Do you use microdata ?
[14:26] <diplo> for your sites
[14:26] <diplo> Trying to improves some of our customers SEO display in results
[14:26] <bigcalm> diplo: I have no idea :) I do backend stuff these days
[14:27] <bigcalm> What is micro data?
[14:27] <bigcalm> Binary?
[14:27] <diplo> Data that displays in google results displays
[14:27] <diplo> You can get it to show better content by using microdata
[14:27] <christel> davmor2: did you know i am on imdb? :D
[14:27] <bigcalm> Nope, not looked at that
[14:27] <diplo> So like using itemprop="price"
[14:27] <diplo> Will display the price
[14:27] <diplo> Me either, looks good..
[14:27]  * diplo implements
[14:28] <bigcalm> Let me know how it goes ;)
[14:28] <christel> davmor2: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4592461/ i am so cool! (though no personal services involved :P)
[14:33] <czajkowski> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available  my new favourite page, how many indicators is too many :)
[14:33] <christel> diplo: http://repogirl.net/rar%20012.JPG slightly betterer image :)
[14:38] <diplo> I really like that christel
[14:38] <diplo> Make them yourself ?
[14:38] <diplo> As in your own design, or get external company ?
[14:41] <davmor2> christel: You're just not safe in public are you ;)
[14:42] <christel> diplo: nah, a pretty young thing who works for one of my clients (a creative agency) did them :)
[14:42] <christel> davmor2: haha how so? :P
[14:43] <diplo> I keep debating making some for anyone who wants private work, not for a business perspective perse
[14:43] <davmor2> christel: your cards and then producer of death
[14:44] <christel> oh yes, i liked doing death
[14:44] <christel> did you see the trailer?
[14:44] <christel> we're actually having our north american premiere *tomorrow*
[14:44] <christel> at the feel good film festival in hollywood
[14:44] <christel> very exciting
[14:44] <christel> our european/first premiere type thing was as the opening movie at the london sci-fi festival this may
[14:44] <christel> :D
[14:45] <christel> diplo: ooh what ahem personal services do you offer? </davmor2>
[14:46] <diplo> Anything and everything :)
[14:47] <christel> :)
[14:47] <davmor2> christel: See just not safe :P
[14:48] <christel> hrmph! :P
[14:48]  * christel tickles davmor2 with a czajkowski 
[14:48]  * davmor2 doesn't believe that christel would upset czajkowski that much so stands by mocking
[14:49] <davmor2> christel: pretty good trailer
[14:49]  * christel bows
[14:49] <christel> we even used *gasp* free software (a little bit)
[14:50] <christel> (well magic lantern firmware)
[14:50] <diplo> like the webdesign of the page on the card christel
[14:50] <diplo> :D
[14:50] <diplo> Free advertising for Apache :P
[14:51] <christel> oh yes, i need to actually chat up TheOpenSourcerer's friend for some website magic
[14:51]  * christel emails him Now
[14:52] <christel> thank you diplo, i needed that reminder <3
[14:53] <diplo> I was just being nosey
[14:53] <christel> hehe
[14:54] <christel> AlanBell: bigcalm says that you need to arrange a happy hour In The South sometime between September 20th and 23rd as he will be Down In Our Neck Of The Woods
[14:56]  * bigcalm nods
[14:57] <bigcalm> We need to beer
[14:57] <christel> mmmmbeer.
[14:57] <christel> oooh it will sort of be my anniversary around then
[14:57] <christel> (september 17th is my One Year Since Surgery Date)
[14:57] <bigcalm> Cool!
[14:57] <christel> scary, it has gone very fast
[14:57] <TheOpenSourcerer> Did someone say beer?
[14:57] <bigcalm> More reason to celebrate :D
[14:57] <christel> TheOpenSourcerer: yay! lets go for beer NOW
[14:58] <TheOpenSourcerer> I am gaggin for it.
[14:58] <bigcalm> Hehe
[14:58] <christel> i am totally up for beer!
[14:59] <TheOpenSourcerer> I am still rather busy following up on leads. Will probably drop in to my local on the way home for a few early ones. Seeing as I have to get up at stupid-oclock tomorrow.
[14:59] <christel> ah yes you're off to london!
[14:59] <christel> :D
[15:01] <davmor2> TheOpenSourcerer: stupid-oclock is that before or after the whats the 0 stand for OMG! it's early?
[15:02] <bigcalm> which is why you shouldn't get up before 11:11
[15:02] <gord> nothing good happens if you get up at 11:11
[15:03] <gord> or at least, thats what 10 series of the x-files taught me
[15:04] <TheOpenSourcerer> I reckon about 04:30 should do it.
[15:05] <TheOpenSourcerer> And we have a rather heavy party to go to on Saturday eve. Then off to Frensham CC for a day of family fun playing cricket & getting plastered (weather dependent obviously).
[15:24] <bigcalm> Ug
[15:25] <bigcalm> gitlab doesn't apply markdown to the README of a project :(
[15:26] <popey> patches welcome
[15:26] <popey> I am sure
[15:27]  * bigcalm knows diddly about ruby :D
[15:28] <bigcalm> Right, server set-up details into a wiki page. This feels a little more productive ;)
[15:29] <bigcalm> Work and personal gitlab servers now have similar subdomain names. Must remember to check I'm in the right one now and then
[15:30] <jacobw> server set up details in puppet is more productive :D
[15:30]  * jacobw isn't at that point yet either
[15:36] <bigcalm> I just killed my personal gitlab :D
[15:36] <bigcalm> No idea how to fix it :D
[15:40] <davmor2> bigcalm: it's a red stone right?
[15:41] <bigcalm> Eh?
[15:43] <bigcalm> davmor2: what is a red stone?
[15:43] <davmor2> bigcalm: a ruby
[15:43] <bigcalm> I see
[15:44] <bigcalm> Context is king!
[15:44] <davmor2> that or it's slang for a curry
[15:54] <bigcalm> Fixed it
[15:54] <bigcalm> Don't just "git pull" and expect it to magically work
[16:12] <TheOpenSourcerer> ping popey
[16:13] <bigcalm> I suck at markdown :(
[16:13] <popey> yo
[16:13] <TheOpenSourcerer> TY - Farnborough station car park? OK to park at 05:00 on a saturday morning?
[16:15] <TheOpenSourcerer> popey - is it barrier or Pay & display?
[16:15] <TheOpenSourcerer> i.e. manned.
[16:18] <popey> no barrier
[16:18] <TheOpenSourcerer> thanks. Think that will have to do. Was going to go to Wimbledon but the car parks don't open until too late.
[16:20] <popey> when is this?
[16:20] <popey> oh, tomorrow
[16:21] <popey> farnborough is ringgo so you can pay online or on your phone with an app
[16:22] <TheOpenSourcerer> We have to be at The Olympic park at 07:30am tomorrow...
[16:22] <popey> nice
[16:23] <TheOpenSourcerer> On Sat trains are per/hr so either 05:16 (loads of time) or 06:16 (very tight).
[16:24] <TheOpenSourcerer> Presumably I can just stick a card in the Pay & Display machine to park? Looks like it is only £3 on Sat anyway.
[16:24] <lazarus_> i looked in synaptic and it saying the wacom stuff is installed but its not working
[16:24] <lazarus_> anyone got any ideas
[16:25] <TheOpenSourcerer> Now it is defo beer o o-clock. Have a nice weekend every one. Thanks popey.
[16:28] <bigcalm> Anybody know how I can have multiple lines of code appear correctly in markdown?
[16:30] <bigcalm> Ah, that's how
[16:31] <davmor2> bigcalm: like that
[16:31] <bigcalm> davmor2: very helpful
[16:31] <davmor2> bigcalm: I do my bit to help those in need :)
[16:49] <mattt> woops
[16:50] <mattt> haven't looked at this window all day
[16:50] <mattt> despite being at my desk the entire day
[16:50] <mattt> been a busy day :(
[16:51] <christel> you hater you :(
[16:52] <mattt> http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/haters-gonna-hate-7.jpg
[16:53] <christel> hehe
[16:57] <AlanBell> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz2jbCJXkpA song for haters
[16:58] <bigcalm> popey: I've moved gitlab. to git.
[16:58] <AlanBell> um, arguably a little nsfw in places
[16:59] <bigcalm> It's 2 mins to non-work time
[16:59] <bigcalm> 1 mintue
[16:59] <christel> tsk tsk AlanBell ;)
[16:59] <bigcalm> minute
[16:59] <bigcalm> http://twitpic.com/af0ou5
[17:02] <christel> AlanBell: oh i love it :D
[17:05] <bigcalm> Oh that
[17:10] <bigcalm> The splurg at the end makes it
[17:15] <christel> :D
[17:15]  * christel does a special It Is The Weekend Dance with bigcalm and AlanBell and Pendulum 
[17:15] <bigcalm> \o/
[17:16] <MartijnVdS> *\o/* *\o/* *\o/* *\o/* *\o/*
[17:16] <MartijnVdS> did that work?
[17:16] <MartijnVdS> (the channel is +c after all)
[17:17] <Pendulum> :D
[17:17]  * MartijnVdS loves his aliases :)
[17:18] <christel> :D
[17:18] <MartijnVdS> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
[17:18]  * christel does a dance with MartijnVdS also
[17:18] <MartijnVdS> *\o/* *\o/* *\o/*
[17:19] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: if you were hoping for colour, there was none
[17:19] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: :(
[17:20] <christel> need moar colour
[17:22] <MartijnVdS> but +c
[17:25] <christel> WE could make that go away
[17:25] <christel> but then AlanBell would ban me :(
[17:25] <christel> probably
[17:26] <bigcalm> Heh
[17:26] <n1md4> 5
[17:26] <n1md4> (ignore)
[17:26] <MartijnVdS> christel: I can PM it in full colour 8-)
[17:26] <bigcalm> Too late
[17:27] <christel> :D
[17:27] <christel> ik hou van je! <3
[17:30] <MartijnVdS> Jeej Nederlands :)
[17:30] <christel> hehe
[17:40] <dwatkins> Ik spreek geen Nederlands.
[17:40] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: But.. wait.. uhrrr
[17:41] <dwatkins> I'm watching død Snø, and I don't speak Norwegian either. Thankfully it has subtitles. It's interesting to hear how some words sound like German (which I do speak, as opposed to just cheating with Google Translate)...
[17:42] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: Yeah I get that with Norwegian as well.. lots of Frisian-sounding words
[17:42] <MartijnVdS> and bits of English
[17:42] <dwatkins> I made a point of learning that Dutch phrase many years ago, just in case.
[17:42] <MartijnVdS> (to my ears)
[17:43] <dwatkins> Norwegian sounds like what I imagine people spoke in Chaucerian times.
[17:43] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: It'll confuse people though.. saying "I can't speak the language I'm speaking now"
[17:43] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: this is obviously the way to actually go \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
[17:43] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: oooooooh!
[17:43] <dwatkins> MartijnVdS: true, I guess I have to make sure I say it with an awful accent ;)
[17:44] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: Dutch people can spot English-speakers from a kilometer away.. and switch languages pre-emptively ;)
[17:44] <dwatkins> I used to wind up my french teacher by speaking with a terrible accent, she knew I had a fairly good grasp of it.
[17:44] <dwatkins> MartijnVdS: ah, Brit-dar?
[17:44] <MartijnVdS> l'accent terrible!
[17:44] <dwatkins> wee
[17:44] <dwatkins> Silver Plate.
[17:44] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: nah, "Not-Dutch-dar"
[17:45] <dwatkins> I sometimes wonder if speaking a particular language from an early age makes a difference to the shape of the mouth.
[17:45] <dwatkins> Perhaps it's more the way people look when they're about to say something.
[17:45] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: It's the Yamolritelikerkid
[17:46] <christel> dwatkins: jeg snakker en hel drøss med norsk!
[17:46] <christel> -1
[17:46] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: it's about phonemes.. if you haven't learned the phonemes for a language before a certain age, it'll be hearder to learn them later
[17:47] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: this is why Poles who learn Dutch speak VERY accent-free Dutch (phonemes match very well)
[17:47] <dwatkins> christel: Jeg snakker ikke noe norsk, men jeg synes det høres kjempebra!
[17:47] <christel> :D
[17:47] <christel> jeg kan snakke norsk til deg når som helst ;)
[17:47] <dwatkins> MartijnVdS: does hearing a language from an early age count?
[17:48] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: I don't know, but I assume it helps
[17:48] <dwatkins> I can't speak Dutch or Italian, Spanish nor any of the Nordic languages, but I've been hearing them all my life. I should probably try learning another language just to see.
[17:49] <christel> yes! learn norwegian :D
[17:49] <MartijnVdS> Learn Dutch! :)
[17:49] <MartijnVdS> Leer Nederlands!
[17:53] <christel> ik wil een bier?
[17:53] <MartijnVdS> Een maar?
[17:53] <christel> ja!
[17:53] <christel> i only know a tiny bit of dutch, which is not very suitable for -uk i suspect
[17:54] <MartijnVdS> Ah, the first bits you learn of a language :)
[17:54] <christel> (neuken in the keuken op de tafel met een opblaasschaap?)
[17:55] <MartijnVdS> on the kitchen table? Really?
[17:55] <MartijnVdS> :P
[17:55] <christel> definitely ;)
[17:57] <MartijnVdS> http://wonderingsinthefourthdimension.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/is-officially-word.htmlhttp://wonderingsinthefourthdimension.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/is-officially-word.html
[17:57] <MartijnVdS> ur
[17:57] <MartijnVdS> http://wonderingsinthefourthdimension.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/is-officially-word.html
[17:57] <MartijnVdS> just once :)
[18:01] <christel> hehe
[18:01] <christel> <3
[18:02] <christel> dr who <3 <3 <3
[18:02]  * christel does a little dance
[18:02] <MartijnVdS> Yeah, did you see the new trailer?
[18:03] <JamesTait> 'night all, have a great weekend, and try not to miss me too much over the next two weeks. :)
[18:04] <JamesTait> (Although I may actually be around from time to time)
[18:04]  * JamesTait waves
[18:04] <MartijnVdS> \o JamesTait
[18:04] <MartijnVdS> JamesTait: have a nice 2 weeks :)
[18:05] <MartijnVdS> JamesTait: we'll send all the easy questions to your inbox ;)
[18:05]  * JamesTait puts is fingers in his ears and redirects mail to /dev/null
[18:05] <MartijnVdS> JamesTait: !coc
[18:06] <christel> JamesTait: have a fantastic holiday, i will miss you!
[18:07] <christel> (i shall cry myself to sleep every night )
[18:08] <MartijnVdS> aww
[18:11] <MartijnVdS> \o/ new vlogbrothers video
[18:19] <czajkowski> evening
[18:20] <MartijnVdS> \o czajkowski
[18:21] <Pendulum> hiya czajkowski
[18:21] <czajkowski> hows folks
[18:22]  * czajkowski has chinese and Criminal minds on, followed by some NCIS 
[18:22] <czajkowski> yummy
[18:39] <ali1234> http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/random/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.png
[19:03] <christel> i have come to the conclusion that ian thorpe sounds like lloyd grossman would do if he was australian
[19:12] <MartijnVdS> christel: speaking of nbames
[19:12] <MartijnVdS> christel: try pronouncing the name of the Dutch swimmer who won gold yesterday :)
[19:13] <MartijnVdS> christel: "Ranomi Kromowidjojo"
[19:15] <christel> hahaha
[19:15] <MartijnVdS> even the Dutch commentators have problems with it :)
[19:15] <christel> i bet!
[19:15] <MartijnVdS> http://foksuk.nl/content/formfield_files/formcartoon_8901_e579ffcc486e43821cea98bbd56b9ef08a297552.gif
[19:18] <christel> hahaha
[19:18] <christel> i love dutch, i can read it :D
[19:18] <christel> well.. i can pick up a dutch newspaper and understand like 80% or something
[19:19] <christel> (where the missing 20% will be crucial of course...)
[19:19] <MartijnVdS> ;)
[19:19] <christel> speaking of dutch.. i was about to laze around but my favourite client in the entire world just emailed to say "shit, i forgot i needed this done by monday morning.. you can charge whatever urgency fee you fancy"
[19:19] <christel> he is dutch
[19:19] <christel> i <3 him
[19:19] <MartijnVdS> Nice :)
[19:21]  * MartijnVdS watches the BBC program about the Antikythera mechanism
[19:21] <MartijnVdS> (I think it's still on iplayer)
[19:24] <christel> ooh
[19:24] <MartijnVdS> christel: there's one on Tetris as well (♥ Tetris)
[19:25] <Pendulum> MartijnVdS: I'm not sure the American commentators even tried to be accurate. In fact, I think they tried to avoid saying the name at all so it was just "the dutch swimmer" quite a bit
[19:25] <jacobw> evening
[19:26] <MartijnVdS> Pendulum: the Dutch commentators can pronounce the name but that comic makes fun of them trying :)
[19:26] <MartijnVdS> \o jacobw
[19:27]  * jacobw resolves to watch more olympics
[19:28]  * Flashtek staples zleap to popey 
[19:28] <zleap> hey
[19:28] <popey> hmm?
[19:29] <zleap> i exited xchat in error and i get stapled to popey
[19:30]  * zleap tries to get Flashtek to respond
[19:30] <Flashtek> :P
[19:30] <zleap> ah
[19:42] <diplo>  Evening all
[19:49] <adddw> guys anyone know how I can fix this error? :(
[19:49] <adddw> http://pastie.org/4385624
[19:52] <ali1234> go back in time and stop yourself or whoever from deleting /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99update-notifier
[19:52] <ali1234> or
[19:52] <ali1234> just reinstall update-notifier and hope it replaces that file
[19:53] <ali1234> actually that might not be the missing file at all
[19:55] <ali1234> well, the alternative is /var/lib/update-notifier/ got deleted
[20:00] <DJones> Interesting on twitter @RAtkinson1955 I can confirm, there will be one last episode of Blackadder, a reunion.
[20:02] <MartijnVdS> is it him though
[20:02] <DJones> Appears to be
[20:04] <MartijnVdS> there's no blue star of approvedness
[20:05] <Pendulum> It does look most likely to be real of the various "I'm Rowan Atkinson" twitter accounts
[20:05] <MartijnVdS> true
[20:13] <MartijnVdS> I wonder.. did they use this picture knowing what the hand sign means in the uK? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/08/tea-party-republicans-sketch-out-internet-policy
[21:05] <Azelphur> Finally finished messing about with my PC, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/2012/July/IMG_20120803_220207.jpg :D
[21:06] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: .. for the week?
[21:06] <Azelphur> probably.
[21:06] <mattt> wtf is that thing
[21:07] <Azelphur> a computer
[21:09] <mattt> Azelphur: are you old enough to have a car?
[21:09] <Azelphur> mattt: yep
[21:09] <mattt> oh
[21:09] <mattt> do you own this?
[21:09] <mattt> http://nimg.sulekha.com/business/original700/west-texas-custom-car-show-chevrolet-monte-carlo-2010-5-24-16-30-27.jpg
[21:09] <Azelphur> nope
[21:11] <mattt> just checking :)
[21:11] <Azelphur> hehe
[21:11] <mattt> that comp is crazy cool looking
[21:11] <Azelphur> ty :D
[22:10] <diplo> Azelphur: Get the duster out man!
[22:11] <Azelphur> haha