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root___hello all02:24
MCR1didrocks: Hi :) The merge here failed due to a conflict - it is now fixed - what has to be done to get this merged ?: https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/nux/nux.merge-optimize-performance-and-style/+merge/11735106:08
MCR1Trevinho: Hi :) Here jenkins was having troubles I guess: https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/unity/unity.merge-optimize-performance-and-style/+merge/117310 - can you help me with getting this merged ?06:12
MCR1duflu: Hi :) Could you please take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/compiz/compiz.fix1030473-part1/+merge/117182 and https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/compiz/compiz.fix1030473-part2/+merge/117410 ?06:14
dufluMCR1: Sorry, no time this week :(06:14
MCR1duflu: :(06:15
MCR1duflu: But thx anyway...06:15
dufluMCR1: Maybe in a few hours. I'm not sure :(06:16
didrockshey MCR1: yeah, upstream trunks are broken right now. sil2100 is fixing that06:17
MCR1duflu: Okay thanks, it would be really nice and should be easy and fast to check for you...06:18
MCR1didrocks: ah, okay - so waiting will automatically fix it, yes ?06:19
didrocksyeah06:19
* didrocks sees no tests on the compiz MP06:19
didrocksoh there are sorry06:19
* didrocks takes more coffee :)06:20
MCR1didrocks: Thx.06:20
jokerdinohello06:21
jokerdinoisn't bug #1014346 and bug #924472 dupes?06:22
ubot5Launchpad bug 1014346 in Unity "give a way to remove 'Show Desktop' from the Alt-Tab items" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101434606:22
ubot5Launchpad bug 924472 in unity (Ubuntu) "Add option to hide 'Show Desktop' in switcher" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92447206:22
MCR1didrocks: Should this be fixed, or is it just all WIP ? : https://bugs.launchpad.net/nux/+bug/103231306:26
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1032313 in Nux "Compiler warnings lp:nux" [Undecided,New]06:26
MCR1jokerdino: Looks like those are duplicates indeed...06:27
jokerdinoMCR1: thanks. i was following the other bug and this new one has a fix committed.06:28
jokerdinoi'll mark it as dupe now.06:28
didrocksMCR1: wait for everything to be merged in, if they are still there, feel free to propose a MR06:28
MCR1didrocks: ok06:28
thumperuk morning07:18
didrockshey thumper08:35
thumperhi didrocks09:02
thumperdidrocks: my laptop is busy upgrading to quantal :)09:03
didrocksthumper: yeah, finally! You asked me last month if it was safe to upgrade and I told you yes. So I guess now you are taking didrocks'advice + a month of security? :p09:04
thumperdidrocks: and the benefit of being in the office09:04
thumperdidrocks: so much, much faster09:04
didrocksoh yeah, I can imagine ;)09:05
didrocksthumper: do you like it btw?09:05
thumperdidrocks: the office? yeah, very nice09:05
didrocksthe office looks really great IMHO and I loved the view on the roof while eating (we didn't get that much rain)09:05
thumper:)09:06
sil2100True true, we were lucky back then ;)09:07
sil2100But it was windy!09:07
didrockssil2100: well, I prefer wind and no rain than the contrary :)09:08
seb128thumper, btw did the fix from desrt work? you didn't reply to my email09:11
thumperseb128: I don't know, it was an issue with the AP stuff, and the quality engineers have been in lexington all week09:12
thumperI've not had any communication with them09:12
seb128ok09:12
seb128well, no news, good news? ;-)09:12
thumper:)09:14
MCR1Thanks a lot duflu, even if you're gone ;)09:19
MCR1Yeah, first of my Compiz speedups has landed 8-)09:26
MCR1Thx again, duflu :)09:27
didrockscongrats MCR1 and thanks to you! :)09:33
MCR1didrocks: np, happy to help :)09:34
MCR1didrocks: Do you know of any efforts for 12.10 to lower boot times - I think we could do a lot in this segment and would like to help...09:35
didrocksMCR1: no particularly a target where we have real time to act on. So any contribution you can do in that regard is more than welcomed :)09:35
MCR1didrocks: Experts got boot time (especially for embedded devices) down to 1 second already... Ubuntu should be faster, too...09:36
MCR1didrocks: With small optimizations I am booting in 17 seconds here, but there is still a lot of room for improvements...09:36
didrocksI agree09:37
sil2100MCR1: 17 seconds? On what hardware?09:41
MCR1sil2100: Intel Core2Quad@3.16GHz Q8300, A-Data 128GB SSD09:43
MCR1sil2100: But I think I am still wasting 3 seconds, because the kernel waits 3 seconds for SCSI drives... (sym53c8xx driver)09:44
MCR1sil2100: http://free-electrons.com/pub/conferences/2011/genivi/boot-time.pdf09:46
MCR1sil2100: http://elinux.org/Boot_Time09:48
sil2100Would have to measure how long it takes on my system, but probably longer09:49
MCR1sil2100: I think we should invest some effort to speed up 12.10 as boot time is the first important perception a new/old user has from his system - a fast boot is simply cool09:51
sil2100True, I remember how happy I was when my system was booting up and shutting down really fast09:52
sil2100The shutdown time should be taken into cosideration too09:52
MCR1sil2100: yes, but shutdown is currently quite fast here without optimization...09:53
MCR1sil2100: Do you know how to best get in touch with the people responsible for this part of Ubuntu (kernel, boot) ?09:54
sil2100MCR1: hm, hard to say really - didn't have too much contact with the kernel people to be humble09:57
sil2100MCR1: but maybe slangasek would know?09:57
MCR1On systems with HDD e4rat is really great as well (much faster than ureadahead in my experience) - Highly recommended if your boot time is long...09:57
sil2100Could anyone review https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/unity/add_libunity_rpath/+merge/117941 ?09:58
sil2100Since this is essentially breaking unity-team staging09:58
sil2100mhr3, Trevinho, andyrock: ^09:58
sil2100didrocks: ^09:58
sil2100;)09:58
sil2100Excuse my CMake foo btw.09:59
MCR1sil2100: Are you using SSD too ?10:02
jokerdinosil2100: https://code.launchpad.net/~barneedhar/unity/lp-937334/+merge/115086 what does it mean?10:03
andyrockjokerdino, fixed10:07
andyrocksil2100, will test in an moment10:07
jokerdinoandyrock: thanks. wasn't sure what i should have done earlier.10:07
sil2100jokerdino: usually, when submitting a merge request, you should also set the merge commit message10:08
sil2100jokerdino: you can either do it when submitting, or after submitting just click 'Set Commit Message'10:08
jokerdinosil2100: is it different from bzr commt -m "message"?10:08
sil2100MCR1: no, I'm using normal hdd10:09
andyrockjokerdino, yep10:09
andyrockbecause a MP can have more commits10:09
sil2100jokerdino: yes - since commit messages you use in your branch are not taken into account when merging the branch10:09
jokerdinosil2100: ah, i think i get it now. i probably overlooked some fields in that page.10:09
sil2100jokerdino: because as andyrock said, you can have more than one commit in a branch that is supposed to be merged10:09
sil2100jokerdino: it's in some 'additional' tab or something, so it's actually easy to miss ;)10:10
* jokerdino saves this chat log for future reference.10:10
jokerdinogot to love the help i am getting :-)10:10
sil2100jokerdino: no problem - thanks for noticing and submitting the fix ;)10:11
jokerdinosil2100:  no problem myself. it was much simpler than i was expecting. both the fix and the bzr stuff.10:12
jokerdinobtw, with talks about adding more default lens, would the shortcut overlay need to be amended?10:12
jokerdinoor consult with the design team?10:12
sil2100jokerdino: first better consult with the design team, they'll know what to do10:16
jokerdinoi think you guys would take care of it. /me goes back to fixing bitesize bugs.10:17
MCR1sil2100: I can really recommend to you trying e4rat in this case: http://e4rat.sourceforge.net/10:17
jokerdinosil2100, andyrock: and well, thanks btw. hoping to bug you all more in the future =)10:19
MCR1sil2100: The instruction how to use it: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/E4rat10:19
MCR1sil2100: You will be impressed ;)10:19
sil2100jokerdino: bitesize bugs are the best for learning the game ;) Hope to see more merges from you soon!10:20
sil2100MCR1: oh, didn't know about this one - thanks ;) *bookmarking*10:20
jokerdinoThanks. :-)10:21
MCR1Yeah, Part 2 also landed in lp:compiz :-D10:21
sil2100\o/10:23
MCR1But my Unity merges are somehow not landing, I would be grateful if someone could help me with those: https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/unity/unity.merge-optimize-performance-and-style/+merge/117310 https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/unity/unity.merge-fix-typos/+merge/116216 https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/unity/unity.merge-reduce-png-filesizes/+merge/11097810:25
sil2100MCR1: I'll approve and get merged at least one of them now ;)10:29
MCR1sil2100: thx10:29
sil2100MCR1: since I wanted to approve it before, but well... we had problems with trunk actually ;p10:30
jokerdinook hold on. Is Unity-merger a bot or just did rocks ?10:30
sil2100jokerdino: it's a bot ;)10:30
sil2100A bot that we sometimes break by accident ;p10:30
jokerdinohaha i see. did rocks uses it at times i suppose?10:31
jokerdinoit seems to make intelligent review comments10:31
jokerdinook actually it doesn't. it almost looked like it was.10:33
jokerdinoyou can now ignore me for a while. i will get myself busy with other stuff10:33
sil2100jokerdino: intelligent comments ;)?10:35
sil2100jokerdino: I only remember getting a few pre-programmed ones always...10:35
sil2100jokerdino: :)10:35
jokerdinosil2100: i mean, at first, the jenkins.qa looked like a legit comment. but i see unity merger saying it all over again in other reviews.10:36
sil2100True true10:36
jokerdinowell, i shouldn't be disturbing you guys anymore :P10:37
jokerdinothis doesn10:37
jokerdinothis doesn't feel right..*10:37
MCR1sil2100: thx10:39
Trevinhosil2100: do you still need the review?10:52
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MCR1sil2100: I had to fix a merge conflict here: https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/nux/nux.merge-optimize-performance-and-style/+merge/117351 Do I need reapproval now ?11:20
sil2100MCR1: re-approved11:41
MCR1sil2100: thx11:44
thumperhi MCR111:56
* thumper is matching nics to LP ids11:56
MCR1Hi thumper :)12:00
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MCR1\o/ I can confirm my Compiz fixes did not break it 8-)12:43
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zcoobHi, i am trying to change the default fixed width font used by ubuntu. I can change it via a gui tool but i don't want that. I can also change it using gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface monospace-font-name "Monospace 11" BUT i need to do that while in X and i don't want that either. any suggestions on how to change that without having to be inside a graphical environment?12:48
Zhenechyou can ship a settings file for that12:50
Zhenechdo not ask exactly how, though,lemme search12:50
zcoobcan you explain?12:50
zcoobi tried using gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/interface/monospace_font_name --type STRING "Monospace 11" but that doesn't seem to do anything12:51
MCR1Hmmm, suddenly the Unity-2d-panel is making troubles here - it does not update and hardly reacts to mouse clicks - strange...12:51
Zhenechzcoob, there is a debhelper script for packages called dh_installgsettings12:52
seb128MCR1, did you get the new dbus 1.6?12:52
Zhenechit installs those settings to usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/12:52
MCR1seb128: yes - 1.6.4-1ubuntu1~build112:54
zcoobthanks that might do it12:55
MCR1seb128: The clock does not change and indicator-multiload does not update anymore and starting the panel manually throws errors like:12:55
seb128MCR1, you need https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity/signal-eavedropping-fix/+merge/11793112:56
MCR1unity-2d-panel: [WARNING] X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 312:56
MCR1  Major opcode: 18 (X_ChangeProperty)12:56
MCR1  Resource id:  0x012:56
seb128MCR1, it's in quantal, not sure what unity version you use12:56
MCR1seb128: Unity staging PPA12:56
seb128MCR1, that's why12:57
seb128the merge didn't make it there yet12:57
MCR1seb128: So that means that waiting a bit will probably fix it, yes ?12:58
seb128correct, waiting and updating12:58
MCR1seb128: Sure, thx 4 the fast help :)12:58
seb128yw!12:58
MCR1gotta leave now - c ya soon with more merge requests from my side ;)12:59
zcoobhmm Zhenech i just looked into dh_installgsettings and i'm not sure that is what i am looking for13:20
zcoobthing is, i can't find any "Ubuntu Mono 13" anywhere13:21
zcoobneither in my home nor in /usr/share/glib2.0/schemas13:21
Zhenechzcoob, its just a helper for you when you create .debs, the actual setting is done by droping a file in that folder13:22
zcoobthere is a gschemas.compiled file in that folder that probably has the Ubuntu Mono 13 in13:23
zcoobbut that's a binary file13:23
zcoobi can't believe that there is no simple way to change the default font via command line13:23
sil2100zcoob: actually, there might be a not-so-easy way of doing that13:27
sil2100Just give me one moment13:27
sil2100zcoob: you want to change the default size of monospace font?13:27
zcoobas i said if i change it via gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/interface/monospace_font_name --type string "Monospace 11" it doesn't work13:28
zcoobif i change it in X via gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface monospace-font-name "Monospace 11" it works13:28
zcoobbut i have to be in X which doesn't make sense to me13:28
zcoobif i can be in X i can also just do it using a gui13:28
zcoobi want to change the fixed width font13:29
sil2100zcoob: so wait, without X calling gsettings set ... doesn't work?13:29
zcoobit bugs out here13:29
zcoobyeah13:29
zcoobone sec13:29
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zcoob** (process:4519): WARNING **: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=14aa918c48b2c82031b42f69000000e2 --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n13:30
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sil2100zcoob: not sure if this will work, but try maybe this:13:30
popeygrrrrr13:31
sil2100dconf write /org/gnome/desktop/interface/monospace-font-name "Ubuntu Mono 10"13:31
sil2100Or Monospace 11 as you wish13:31
zcoob"doesn't work"13:33
zcoobit either resets everytime i relog13:33
zcoobor it just doesn't work13:33
sil2100zcoob: ok, another try then ;p13:34
zcoobthis is seriously the most annoying problem i encountered so far13:34
sil2100zcoob: dbus-launch gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface monospace-font-name "Monospace 11"13:35
zcoobgsettings already runs exactly that13:35
zcoobgsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface monospace-font-name13:36
zcoobalways returns "Ubuntu Mono 13"13:36
zcoobfuck13:37
zcoobthat at least didnt put out an error13:37
zcoobone sec i'll check if that actually worked13:37
zcoobman thanks sil210013:37
sil2100zcoob: it works?13:37
zcoobyes13:37
sil2100zcoob: phew, good to hear that - glad to be of some help ;)13:38
zcoobseriously the weirdest problem i had so far13:38
sil2100zcoob: I recently started working with gsettings/dconf/gconf, and usually it's full of problems like this - always something problematic13:39
zcoobin my opinion it would be easier to just leave that stuff as transparent as it gets13:40
zcoobi wouldn't even mind xml files13:40
sil2100I played around with various configuration systems in the past, and usually simple is 'not enough' - since settings can have depenedencies, migrations, deprecations, default values and different schema manipulations13:42
sil2100To make a working configuration system, sadly, you _have_ to make it complex ;/13:42
zcoob:(13:53
zcoobi still don't like it :)13:53
zcoobmakes my job harder lol13:53
sil2100We all suffer because of it ;p13:55
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sil2100brb, storm14:36
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jaytaoko1sil2100: ping15:05
sil2100jaytaoko1: pong!15:14
sil2100jaytaoko1: seems like staging is still broken...15:15
jaytaoko1sil2100:  what is it? failure to build?15:15
sil2100jaytaoko1: no, actually it's all fine - just the build didn't publish yet ;)15:22
sil2100jaytaoko1: \o/15:22
jaytaoko1sil2100: cool15:23
jaytaoko1sil2100: so I have a small branch I would like to push in nux. Is there a chance I can to it now?15:23
sil2100jaytaoko1: could you point me to it? Is it very important?15:24
jaytaoko1sil2100: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/nux/nux.libgeis-optional-package/+merge/11794215:24
jaytaoko1sil2100: since the new geis is not available on precise, this branch allows to compile nux trunk on precise even if geis is not available15:25
sil2100jaytaoko1: is this tested? Will it really not complain when built on precise?15:25
jaytaoko1sil2100: yes it is15:25
sil2100jaytaoko1: then, let's merge it in ;)15:26
jaytaoko1sil2100: Quantal has Geis will Precise doesn't. this will only affect precise builds15:26
jaytaoko1sil2100: thanks! doing it now15:26
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MCR1seb128: Probably you already know, but still I confirm the dbus fix. Unity-2d-panel fully functional again :)17:52
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lynchseanmRevision 639 in the Nux trunk breaks the Unity build for me because it can't find NuxGraphics/GestureEvent.h. I think this is because I have libutouch-geis on my system instead of libgeis and HAVE_GEIS gets set to false in the Nux config.19:37
lynchseanmCan I just remove libutouch-geis and install geis from source to fix this?19:37
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bilalAnyone else having trouble building Unity from trunk, with error: ‘GestureEvent’ in namespace ‘nux’ does not name a type23:22
* bilal is updating his GCC right now so that might probably fix it23:23
bilalalright, fixed. Had to re-build Nux with gesture support enabled23:29

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