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vychuneo/00:07
netritioushowdy vychune00:10
vychuneready for this meet?00:12
vychunei'll only be here 30 mins i work tonight00:12
netritiousyep i'm ready00:13
netritiousit doesn't start until 7:30 however00:15
vychuneof course00:16
vychunebrb00:16
Svpernova09HAI netritious00:20
Svpernova09>.>00:20
netritioushey there Svpernova09!00:20
netritiouswhat are you doing here? lol, you know what I mean.00:21
netritiousping alyawn binarymutant cyberanger Juzzy orias pace_t_zulu Svpernova09 vychune wrst00:22
vychunepong00:23
netritiousmeeting starts in seven minutes00:23
Juzzyheh00:23
Juzzyomg yes00:23
Juzzywhats today's agenda?00:23
netritiousunofficially leadership elections00:23
netritiousand/or some chat about the LoCo00:25
cyberangernetritious: let me check something00:26
* orias looks for refreshments00:26
* netritious hands orias a tall one00:26
netritioushowdy cyberanger00:27
netritiouspace_t_zulu: you around?00:29
cyberangernetritious: terms expire this meeting, so not late on that, just on time00:30
netritiousI was pretty sure it was August, but thanks for double-checking cyberanger00:30
netritiouslet me switch machines00:31
netritiousthere we go00:31
netritiousI'm ready when everyone else is ready. I'm more than happy to wait on stragglers though.00:32
vychunei may be in and out cooking00:36
netritiousk00:36
cyberangerjust a sml bot00:37
netritioussml cyberanger?00:38
netritiousis that like effe emme elle?00:38
cyberangersmall bit00:39
netritiouslet's get this party started ya'll00:40
cyberangeroperating at 9600 baud, not fun00:40
cyberanger#startmeeting00:40
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netritiousouch00:40
cyberangernetritious: high latency too (satellite phone)00:41
netritiouseeek00:41
cyberanger#chair netritious00:41
meetingologyCurrent chairs: cyberanger netritious00:41
cyberangerwrst: you here?00:41
cyberanger#chair wrst00:41
meetingologyCurrent chairs: cyberanger netritious wrst00:41
netritiousI would rather you chair cyberanger, but I'll try if needed.00:42
cyberangernetritious: take another look, it's three chairs00:43
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meetingologycyberanger: Error: "has" is not a valid command.00:43
cyberangerand is still new enough to be dumb at moments ^00:43
vychuneLOL00:44
netritiousnice. where /is/ wrst?00:44
cyberangernetritious: wrst you & myself are all chairing it00:44
vychuneim showing away in xchat00:44
netritiouslet's do roll call?00:44
cyberangerwrst: attending to family perhaps00:44
netritiousmost likely00:44
vychunewhered Svpernova09 and orias go?00:45
vychunenetritious: reping maybe?00:45
orias>.>00:45
vychune<.<00:46
cyberangernetritious: per the blog post...00:46
cyberanger# A minimum of six members should be present to hold elections.00:46
cyberanger# It is preferable that a minimum of two members from each region attend the elections.00:46
cyberangerhowever, having four is better than some prior meetings00:47
netritiousRight, and elections doesn't have to happen, but the meeting should.00:47
netritiousthat's why all headers end in (unofficial)00:47
netritiouson the blog post00:47
cyberangernetritious: if elections don't happen, what do you propose, one month extension00:47
cyberangerwest tn does have enough for it's region though00:47
cyberangerlemme see something real quick (over 9600 baud, might not be THAT quick)00:48
netritiousraise your hand if you're here for the meeting please?00:48
netritiouso/00:48
cyberangerhere00:48
oriaso/00:49
alyawnlol... here :)00:49
cyberangerI happen to know Ubik is out of town today, so he might be more focused on his trip (we'll see)00:50
cyberangerUbik: you here?00:51
netritiouswell there is four :) better than two, and who knows, someone might show up.00:51
cyberangernetritious: everyone besides Ubik & Svpernova09 have been idle for over an hour, Svpernova09 over a half and Ubik about a minute00:52
cyberangerso... your all west tn, do you want to do any elections on your seat00:53
cyberangerI'm neutral, east tn, but there's 3 of you here, so...?00:53
netritiouswe could or we could talk about LoCo biz00:53
vychuneo/00:53
netritiousyes vychune?00:54
cyberangeralyawn: remind me, your metro knoxville, yes00:54
cyberanger?00:54
alyawnchattanooga00:54
oriaswe can, or just let it be if there's no changes00:54
vychuneraising hand for presence late sorry00:54
cyberangereven better, my area ;-)00:54
alyawnheh00:54
netritiousawesome, and then there was five.00:54
alyawnyou're the one hogging my bandwidth then :)00:54
cyberangernot likely00:55
cyberangernetritious: so, no middle, two in east tn, 3 in west, loco biz, your call00:55
netritiousI motion we postpone elections until we get the minimum (logical yet unofficial) attendees00:56
netritious*number of attendees00:57
cyberangernetritious: well, when was the last time we've had 6 people00:57
cyberangerw4ett's days? more recent?00:57
netritiouswhen was the last time we had five? my point being, it's not important I don' think.00:58
vychunewhy not use a different method of voting, that enable absentee votes?00:58
cyberangerjust asking to grasp if that's a high number, or not00:58
netritiousok, how about...00:58
cyberangernetritious: if it's not important, why postpone till we have it?00:59
netritiousSo is the motion not carried or...?00:59
cyberangerwe can postpone it for this meeting at least, if there's a better issue to takle atm00:59
alyawnI'm usually available on here, provided I get a ping01:00
cyberangerbut I can't really second it, if it'll keep getting tabled01:00
cyberangerif it's not having 6, I can table it saying "restructing voting rules" or something01:01
netritiousI think the two w tn poc's are fine.01:01
netritiousDoes anyone have a nomination for w tn point of contact?01:01
cyberangernetritious: so, extend current terms one month, to focus on current issues this meeting, is that the motion?01:01
netritiouscurrently it is Svpernova09 and orias I believe.01:02
cyberangernetritious: that's correct01:02
vychunenova and orias are good with me01:02
cyberangerthey're terms were automatically extended01:02
netritiousyeah, me to. I thought that if we didn't vote they would serve another term?01:03
cyberanger(last election we were short on west tn, so after voting the rest, there was a vote to automatically renew, pending a step down letter or a challenge or something)01:03
netritiousso yeah, no need to vote I guess? then not really postponing.01:03
alyawnsounds logical01:04
netritiousI motion that we move along lol.01:04
cyberangernetritious: so are we extending for the default 6 mo term, or just a one month postpone of elections01:04
cyberangerseconded01:04
cyberanger(sounds like we're agreed current leadership works for at least a month, worry about next month then)01:05
cyberangerany opposed?01:05
vychuneno01:06
netritiousno01:06
cyberanger[agreed] extend leadership term01:07
cyberangernetritious: next item01:07
cyberanger( meetingology, unlike mootbot, is silent, no ack)01:08
netritious#topic Increasing attendance to the monthly LoCo IRC meetings, or is it important?01:08
netritiousmeetingology: #topic Increasing attendance to the monthly LoCo IRC meetings, or is it important?01:09
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* netritious is a chair n00b01:09
cyberanger[topic]Increasing attendance to the monthly LoCo IRC meetings, or is it important?01:09
cyberangernetritious: syntax change mootbot to meetingology01:09
netritiousroger. thx cyberanger01:10
cyberangeron the one hand, I can't make meetings on thursday anymore (today is an exception that barely happened)01:10
cyberangeron the other, not sure it's right to talk about changing something to just the people that made it to the meeting01:10
netritiousIt does seem that receiving reminders does increase attendance, even if it's just a little.01:11
cyberangerthat and elections has typically drawn more than avg too01:11
alyawnAny night other than Thursday would also be better for me01:11
cyberangerso I'd like to see that repeat for a normal one01:11
netritiouscyberanger: I put it to the list, but no one replied with an issue for Thur. nights.01:12
cyberangerthen there's an issue, as I replied01:12
cyberangerand saw others reply01:12
netritiousI do know that Svpernova09 will be occupied on the first Thu of the month, you and alyawn to now.01:12
netritioushm, that's odd.01:12
cyberanger(granted, some that replied tripped mailman errors that only I saw, and they didn't repost I guess)01:13
netritioushm. seems odd.01:14
netritiousregardless, you have a point. we shouldn't move a meeting night just b/c the ppl showed, well, showed.01:14
alyawnI only received the one email01:14
vychunesounds legit01:14
cyberangerI've had list issues since I enherited the list from w4ett01:14
netritiousSo weird that it was tested and eighteen replied?01:15
cyberangernetritious: becuase the errors weren't pass or fail01:15
netritiousBack on topic though: How to increase attendance to these meetings?01:15
netritiousOne suggestion is to move the meeting night.01:16
netritiousAny other suggestions?01:16
cyberangersome were members somehow getting the list, but getting flaged as non-members01:16
cyberangerothers were mis-flagged as spam01:16
alyawnIncentives?01:16
cyberangermajority made it01:16
netritiousAh, yes, that would be good. A reason to come. :)01:16
netritiousI would like to either use the meeting time to possibly start doing some tutorials, right here in IRC.01:17
cyberangernetritious: I think actually when 2 out of 5 say they have issues with thursday, and an additional member (that we know of) has that too, that's enough to make a motion of some kind on it01:17
alyawntutorials such as?01:18
vychuneapache?01:18
cyberangernot to change it outright, but at least find out what works for those who showed01:18
netritiousalyawn: maybe make suggestions to the list?01:19
alyawnWell, maybe we should just defer meeting changes to list01:19
cyberangeralyawn: anything a member proposes (within reason, a howto on commiting a federal crime with ubuntu would be bad)01:19
netritiousalyawn: good point.01:19
alyawnok.. so the primary rule is Ubuntu specific for tutorials?01:19
netritiouscyberanger: can you get some support on the mailing list issues you are having?01:19
wrstsorry i'm late!01:20
netritiousdoesn't mailman allow you to mark something not spam?01:20
netritioushowdy wrst01:20
wrsthey netritious sorry been providing support and also getting ready to install ubuntu for my brother so hopefully that excuses me :)01:20
netritiousyou don't need an excuse wrst01:21
cyberangernetritious: not at a rate that helps, considering how much spam lists.ubuntu.com gets01:21
* wrst checks out the informative scrollback01:21
netritiouscyberanger: is the first Thur of every month the official meeting day for LoCo's?01:22
cyberangerI've had to disapprove 350 messages on avg for zero approvals, this month, about 500 disapproved, for 5-10 legit01:22
cyberangernetritious: each loco sets it01:22
vychunemaybe post to the Ubuntu-TN G= some stuff?01:22
netritiousLooks like we may need another list?01:22
cyberangerit's not a loco council thing, it's just what worked back in feb 200901:22
netritiousah k, didn't know.01:22
cyberangerand the time was tweaked once for a few (namely jfenn2199 & myself)01:23
netritiousBut still, it concerns me that so many replied to the test, and you say so many replied that need to change the night of the meeting, but none of those came through?01:23
cyberangernetritious: the issues are getting support, just fighting time & the rate of spam in the mean time01:23
netritiouscyberanger: are you the only one that can maintain the list?01:24
netritiousIf you need help managing it, I'd be glad to provide it.01:25
cyberangerthe issue really boils down to members actually joining the list01:25
wrstyeah i could throw my hat in that ring also, i help with the support in an opensource project and the spam can be overwhelming for one person to maintain01:25
netritiousalyawn: I would think the tutorials need to be Ubuntu centric yes.01:26
cyberangerthe few others are too few and far between, I maintain it twice daily on avg01:26
alyawnnetritious, thought so01:26
wrsti've gotta go now tend to sleep stuff, but cyberanger, good to see we have doubled attendance from the last meeting!!01:26
cyberangerI'll get wrst in on it too (middle tn leadership)01:26
wrstsleep stuff for the youn 'un01:27
wrstthanks cyberanger... i think01:27
netritiousok, sounds good.01:27
cyberangerwrst: don't worry, stay focused on lp, I got the list01:27
cyberangerwe'll just back each other up as we've already done01:27
cyberangeras needed01:28
wrstha ha ok cyberanger now that sounds like a plan01:28
netritiousEighteen members replied to the test. Only one  replied with a issue with Thur nights, and only one other in this meeting.01:28
netritiousI don't think we need a motion for changing meeting nights, unless you make one cyberanger.01:28
cyberangernetritious: two, alyawn Svpernova09 & myself01:28
netritiousAh yes, true.01:28
netritiousSo three.01:29
wrstnetritious: just curious would it work better for people during the daytime we seem to be having more irc activity then at present?01:29
netritiousThree of eighteen that has signed up to the list and replied to the test.01:29
cyberangerI'm making a motion, tutorials as part of every other meeting, and making it a choice between the current day & time, and another day & time01:29
cyberangerand putting that on the list01:29
netritiousActually I just had a thought.01:29
cyberanger(with a clear way to absentee vote too) and approve one or another next meeting01:30
netritiousThere is no reaosn I can't start providing tutorials independently of these meetings.01:30
cyberangerthat's the motion I propose (but I'm tabling the motion to hear you out)01:30
netritiousNot at the same time as the meeting of course.01:30
cyberangertrue, but I think it's spot on, we need to get back to meetups, tutorials, helping on irc, the forums01:31
netritiousSure, but I thought the current topic was how to increase attendance? Are we done with that?01:31
cyberangerif that's an incentive for some, why deny it01:31
netritiousI think we ran everyone off. There was traciton now none, lol.01:32
cyberangervychune: still here01:32
cyberangerorias: still here01:32
cyberangeralyawn: still here?01:32
alyawnI think tutorials in a group session could be good, but will need to be time limited01:32
alyawnand yes... still here01:32
netritious+101:32
wrstalyawn: yep sometimes the meetings can be too long like make you want to shoot yourself long!01:32
netritioushaha wrst01:32
wrstnow i really have to go :)01:33
wrstnot to shoot anyone!01:33
alyawnheh... good luck01:33
cyberangeryeah... still don't know how to truely resolve that one01:33
oriasheh01:33
netritiouscyberanger: I was mainly trying to brainstorm.01:33
netritiousWe have enough here to do that.01:34
netritiousSo sending meeting reminders help.01:34
alyawnyes... we need reminders of the reminders01:35
netritiousHaving incentive helps, like sharing information, maybe int he form of tutorials.01:35
cyberangernetritious: I follow, but I do think a motion should be made towards that meeting time, some might have been indifferent, and nobody proposed an alternative yet (despite some saying thursday was an issue)01:35
vychuneo/01:35
netritiousyou made the motion and no one seconded.01:35
netritiousvychune: are you seconding?01:35
cyberangerI actually tabled it, for discussion01:36
vychuneno responding01:36
netritiousOh lol01:36
cyberangersince we don't have that second option,01:36
cyberangeralyawn: is a tuesday better?01:37
alyawnyes...01:37
cyberangernetritious: also, if it's not a vote, don't think we need a second, just an agreement01:37
netritiousI disagree with changing the regularly scheduled meetings.01:38
cyberangeralyawn: say, fourth tuesday01:38
cyberangernetritious: I'm not changing it, just setting a second option, so we can get better input on the list & next meeting01:38
alyawnany tuesday is fine with me01:38
netritiousAh ok, makes complete sense.01:38
cyberangerI think if we had first thursday OR forth tuesday, it makes it a choice, people have to pick01:39
netritiousI think that is adding more complexity than neccessary cyberanger.01:39
netritiousWe can't even get replies to the mailing list.01:39
netritiousNot in a predictable fashion anyway.01:40
cyberangernetritious: I think people saying they can't make it, or it's hard to make it, and offering no alternatives isn't a resolution to the issue01:41
netritiousSo I guess a better question is, if the mailing list is not going to work to communicate to the LoCo members, for wahtever reason, what can be done to rectify the situation?01:41
cyberangeragreed on the list01:41
cyberangernetritious: the list worked, mostly01:41
cyberangerthe three issues I saw was it became two threads, due to some replying to the daily archive, others to the actual thread01:42
vychunei think the biggest issue is the purpose01:42
cyberangerothers replied from an address not registered to mailman (but cross checked with lp, were members)01:42
netritiousvychune: +101:42
cyberangerand the third was...maybe the third was resolved before this thread01:43
vychunewe have to define the reason we do things01:43
netritiousThese meetings are not getting much accomplished. I feel like we are tlaking in circles here.01:43
netritious*talking01:43
cyberangerthe purpose of a loco is defined01:43
netritioustrue01:43
vychunea loco01:43
netritiousLoCo = Local Community01:44
cyberangerbut not at a loco level, at the council level01:44
vychunebut TN's loco may need more definition01:44
netritiousWe, the people here that registered on Launchpad, are Ubuntu LoCo Members01:44
vychunecyberanger: or that lol01:44
vychuneright01:44
cyberangerubuntu loco tennessee members, yes01:45
cyberangermembers of the tennessee team01:45
cyberangerI think on the topic of meeting times, first thursday 8:30 ET 7:30 CT and 4th tues same time, should that go to the list, the adgenda on wp, so on01:46
cyberangerto be put to a decision on our next meeting on...01:46
cyberangeron the 6th of sept01:47
vychunecool01:47
cyberangermaking that a motion01:47
vychunei think a topic sholud be made about getting more activites in here01:47
netritiousbut that put's meetings back to back01:48
netritiousunless it;s a five week month of course01:48
netritiousargh this keyboard layout01:48
cyberangernetritious: it puts two meetings in one month, but not back to back01:48
cyberangerif that was switched, we'd have a meeting on the 6th & 25th01:49
cyberangerfor one month only01:49
netritiousthe 4th tuesday of the month and the first tues of the followign month is typically back to back01:49
cyberangerand we've don that before for elections once01:49
netritious*first thur01:49
cyberangerthis month, this meeting, next month, on the 6th, a vote on which one to hold future meetings01:50
cyberangeropt. 1, keep the same, nothing is back to back01:50
cyberangeropt. 2, switch, sept 25th, next meeting after is oct. 23rd01:51
cyberangerso nothing is back to back (but sept would have two meetings due to the switch)01:51
netritiouscrap, gotta take this call guys. afk01:51
cyberangervychune: agreed, but activities doesn't help some of us attend meetings (if it wasn't for the satphone I'm on, I'd be at work with no internet for this meeting, normally I'm on a work project or at church right now)01:52
cyberangerI think we need activities too01:54
alyawnHow about a Ubuntu Use-of-the-Month just as a conversation topic01:54
cyberangerwell, that may work01:55
cyberangerah darn, I only had an hour and a half for the meeting, gotta get back to work01:56
alyawnone member gives a short Q&A for something they did or used ubuntu with/for01:56
cyberangerfinish this project by morning01:56
alyawngood luck, cyberanger01:56
vychuneo/01:59
vychunefedex time i gotta go01:59
vychunegood talk guys01:59
alyawncya <vychune>01:59
vychuneo/01:59
cyberanger#endmeetimg02:19
alyawnheh... yeah02:19
cyberanger[endmeeting]02:19
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oriasnite!02:22
Unit193Good night.02:22
Svpernova09wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee02:29
Svpernova09p/02:29
Svpernova09o/02:29
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Svpernova09o/04:01
chris4585wrst, ah, but still a post somewhere isn't exactly apart of the system / pacman04:13
chris4585but yeah if I looked hard enough I probably could have found it04:13
chris4585I love the history command06:54
chris4585oh man07:03
chris4585I think I just installed everything kde07:03
* chris4585 bangs head on keyboard07:04
chris4585oh well :|07:05
chris4585I really wish my external hdd was just magically ext4 instead of fat3210:26
binarymutantthat sucks10:28
binarymutantbut any computer can read fat while ext is pretty specific10:29
wrsti keep my external on ext4, but its always connected to my server10:32
chris4585well yeah, only reason it isn't switch right now is it would be a hassle to move 200 something gigabytes just to reformat it10:32
chris4585I mean yeah, every computer can pretty much read fat but I don't ever take it anywhere lol10:33
chris4585so wrst, I accidentally installed "kde" last night lol10:41
chris4585when I just wanted kdebase10:41
wrstha ha10:41
wrsthow do you like it chris4585? :)10:41
chris4585dunno yet, I've been too busy doing internet stuff to play around with it lmao10:41
wrsti have to say its nice but i just can not get into using it10:49
=== pace_t_zulu_ is now known as pace_t_zulu
chris4585yeah, same11:20
chris4585http://imgur.com/a/IRf3K#311:20
chris4585"This is what I call productivity"11:20
chris4585http://imgur.com/a/IRf3K#0 ***11:21
binarymutantcrap, ima have to redo my dual monitors :/11:58
binarymutantnext meeting we should do a post-your-desktop-a-thon12:00
wrstbinarymutant: thats a good idea!12:01
binarymutantI'm full of em12:01
binarymutantfull of something :P12:01
* wrst is glad that he didn't have to say that :)12:01
binarymutantlol12:02
wrstbinarymutant: how is debian treating you?12:06
binarymutantit's okay, still trying to set everything up again12:06
binarymutantlike dualmonitors12:07
wrsti just have a few shell extensions i have to get when i set a system up, i try to keep it basic so i don't have issues, i used to modify everything12:07
chris4585binarymutant, that sounds fun12:07
chris4585binarymutant, you purged arch? lol12:07
binarymutantyeah I really need to stop modifying the system and just run everything as a user. That way I won't have to do anything if I change distros12:08
binarymutantchris4585, yeah they made me mad12:08
binarymutantback on good ole debian12:08
chris4585lol? well whatever works12:08
wrstor doesn't work :)12:10
binarymutantbrb gotta restart X12:10
chris4585the arch bigots have angered me before in #archlinux ? but that isn't a reason I would give up arch though12:11
wrstchris4585: you are a brave man12:15
wrsti don't speak in #archlinux12:16
chris4585yeah, well I guess I wont ever go back in there12:16
chris4585this guy just wanted to be a douche because his ego and elitism was showing, they were all fine until I said archbang12:17
wrstchris4585: i go to watch the show , its like watching the crocs feed feed on the poor animals trying to cross the river12:18
wrstthey pick on the weak and the wounded12:18
wrstand i am generally both so i just try to blend in and watch :)12:18
chris4585apparently archbang is so different that mentioning a pacman related issue forced them to shove me out the door and look for help elsewhere12:18
wrstchris4585: they really don't care about the size of the community i think they prefer it to be small and elitist but they shouldn't have created such a good distro12:19
chris4585which was fine I got what I wanted, came back to let the guy know what the issue was and he said he already knew what the issue was12:19
binarymutantI almost installed archbang12:19
chris4585wrst, right?12:19
chris4585binarymutant, it was pretty much my easy way of installing arch, which really wasn't all that much easier because the installer is the exact same as arch's12:20
chris4585I just had gparted up with the installer12:20
chris4585:)12:20
binarymutantso do they have an installer still?12:21
chris4585I have no idea, I don't think they have updated their iso in a while12:21
binarymutantyeah the one I downloaded was from may I think12:21
chris4585yeah, that is the same one I installed12:22
wrstchris4585: i tried archbang and it seemd just like the AIF but it installed a desktop12:22
binarymutantyeah12:22
binarymutantopenbox12:22
chris4585pretty much, then I just tweaked openbox to my liking.. which was weird because I started removing things after an install than installing12:23
chris4585I don't like tint12:23
chris4585tint2*12:23
chris4585basically imo archbang got me to the same place arch would have faster12:24
binarymutantseems like it should be the other way around12:27
wrstbinarymutant:  thats not the arch way ;)12:29
chris4585it is a little bass ackwards but... I do the same thing on ubuntu and every other distro12:31
chris4585holy poop my old settings for kde are still here12:40
chris4585kwin is noticeably more slow without my nvidia card12:41
wrstkwin is a little bit of a hog, but it sure is pretty12:43
chris4585agreed, well I gotta get some sleep, later wrst and binarymutant12:43
binarymutantlater12:44
wrstbinarymutant: chris4585 must work the night shift :)13:04
wrstxTEMPLARx: wb14:18
xTEMPLARxwrst:  thank you sir!14:30
wrstwe are just honored to be in your presence15:01
* alyawn yawns......15:24
alyawnmorning15:24
alyawnI may have fallen asleep during last nights meeting :)15:24
alyawnI just noticed that I have "nameserver 127.0.0.1" in my resolve.conf15:32
alyawnI'm not running DNS, so that's a bit odd.15:33
alyawnI'm using dhcp for addressing.... hmm15:33
xTEMPLARxthat's normal alyawn15:47
alyawnI guess15:48
alyawnjust never noticed before...15:48
alyawnI also notice that dnsmasq is running15:48
xTEMPLARxits because the system is using dnsmasq for caching dns15:48
xTEMPLARxyup15:48
xTEMPLARxnetwork manager sets it up that way15:49
alyawnjust trying to figure out how/why my host name got put in  /etc/hosts as "127.0.1.1 sleek"15:49
alyawnwonder what did that15:49
xTEMPLARxi discovered all of that when I was having problems with this box a  few weeks back15:49
xTEMPLARxthat one I don't know :)15:49
alyawnI'd rather everything lookup my hostname with my router15:50
alyawnanyway... learn something new every day!15:50
xTEMPLARxoh it IS using your router15:56
xTEMPLARxif thats the way DHCP set you up15:56
xTEMPLARxits just caching stuff at your pc as well15:56
xTEMPLARxlook up dnsmasq and see if you can configure it to always just do the lookup and not cache anything15:57
xTEMPLARxcaching is fun, and breaks the ice at parties15:58
wrstxTEMPLARx: i always need something networking related to break the ice at parties, thanky ou15:59
xTEMPLARxalso good to break the ice at NAUGHTY parties16:00
xTEMPLARxwink wink nudge nudge say no more16:00
xTEMPLARxa nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat16:00
* xTEMPLARx is done with the monty python quotes16:01
alyawnI'm just jealous that I don't get invited to such parties16:13
wrstalyawn: don't worry xTEMPLARx doesn't either :)16:14
* alyawn done with HHGTTG quotes :)16:14
alyawnany of you guys going to dragon*con19:07
binarymutantI wish19:09
xTEMPLARxi haven't gotten my pikachu costume back from the cleaners yet, so I'ma hafta pass19:26
alyawnheh19:40
alyawnI go for the D&D not the cosplay :)19:40
xTEMPLARx=]19:42
binarymutantback on dwm20:32
binarymutantback on debian and back on dwm, it's like 2009 all over again20:33
cyberangeralyawn: I'll be lucky to get to chattacon at this point, wish I could be at dragoncon20:34
xTEMPLARxhave a good weekend you guys20:51
binarymutantsucks, I can't play UrT with the nouveau driver23:25

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