=== Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [04:48] morning [05:28] morning charlvn and the rest of ubuntu-za [05:44] Maaz, coffee on [05:44] * Maaz washes some mugs [05:48] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [05:48] Maaz, ty [05:48] You are welcome Kilos [06:14] morning SmilyBorg_w [06:14] hey there === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg === SmilyBorg is now known as SadBorg [06:56] lo [06:59] hi Squirm [07:16] good morning all [07:16] hi magespawn [07:17] when you got time i got some stuff you can try inna shop to speed up your internet connection [07:19] okay you have my attention. [07:20] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG5cEik2ABY [07:20] i think thats the one [07:20] will check it out ty. [07:20] winding more cable to your pc router connection [07:20] yw [07:21] * Kilos greets cocooncrash [07:22] Hi Kilos [07:38] what happened SadBorg [07:40] My girlfriend and I moved into separate apartments after a little over 2 years of living together. We haven't borken up, just living separately. [07:41] oh i thought you had work probs [07:41] It's hard enough being apart, but I can't stand being on my own. Any my new place is so alien and cold [07:42] if I'm not careful, I'll end up with work problems. Not easy to function at work when I'm in tears every 5 minutes [07:42] dunno how I managed to drive to work like that [07:42] eish === magespawn_ is now known as magespawn === magespawn_ is now known as magespawn [08:03] hey Kilos [08:03] magespawn, lemme know if it works here hey [08:03] lol [08:03] yes? [08:05] no luck with that hack but I will try another cable as the one I tried only has four strands. [08:06] oh it said same cable methinks [08:06] one can buy them [08:06] cat6 cables i think they are called [08:07] i have but the one plugged in is a premade [08:07] well this is supposed to be a poor mans workaround to that [08:08] if you have one in there i dunno if the added cable will then again double the speed [08:10] will check it out a bit later [08:15] k [09:15] good morning all [09:16] hi charlvn [09:20] hi Kilos [09:20] Maaz: coffee on [09:20] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [09:20] Kilos: how's it going this fine morning [09:22] hi Kilos & charlvn :p [09:22] hi smile [09:22] good morning :) [09:23] how's the weather in BE, here in NL it's nice and sunny today [09:24] Coffee's ready for charlvn! [09:29] hi smile charlvn i maintain [09:29] charlvn: it's fine! :D [09:29] learning bits and pieces with unity [09:29] there is some wind and some clouds, but the sun is shining :p [09:30] and it's warm outside :) [09:30] Kilos: hi hi :) have you slept well today? [09:31] nope been struggling with lame sheep [09:32] gave pennicillin injection and put stuff onna hooves to prevent ticks hopping on [09:32] Kilos: not good :( [09:46] shame that sucks Kilos :( [09:48] ya [10:04] bbl [11:00] hey Kilos no luck with that cable trick so far. [11:02] are you trying it on a cat6 cable magespawn [11:02] i dont think it will work there [11:02] the cat6 is already doing what we are trying to do [11:06] i only have cat5 [11:06] but yes ithink you are right [11:07] i think its basically for the single cables [11:07] the cheap ones [11:08] ahh well, worth a try. [11:32] yeah maybe cat5 isnt done like that [11:32] hi not_found_droid [11:37] Kilos: alo uncle [11:52] Kilos: Ubuntu Hour at The Mall of Rosebank on Saturday 11 August 2012 12:00-14:00 SAST Details: http://t.co/Zb6Inbcr and http://t.co/DV6awq0n [11:52] inetpro: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell inetpro Dankie dat jy my laat weet het boetie. hoop als gaan goed en loop vlot daar" 1 day, 20 hours, 50 minutes and 47 seconds ago [11:53] hmm... [11:53] * inetpro been away that long? [11:54] ya [11:54] Kilos: ek dink jy kan daai pos op twitter [11:55] ok sal doen === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [12:08] hi Trixar_za [12:08] Hey Kilos [12:08] inetpro, did you see the tweet [12:12] The droid font is pretty extensive. I installed it and low and behold, it's showing Chinese and Japanese characters [12:23] lol [12:26] can one only get myunity from a ppa goodie [12:27] nope found in that top thing [12:27] dash [12:31] Kilos: dankie, ja [12:31] mooi [12:34] i hope its safe to install ubuntu tweak [12:34] another ppa [12:35] tumbleweed, is ubuntu tweak wise for me [12:37] or inetpro ^ [12:39] reading http://www.webupd8.org/2012/04/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html i get bang [12:42] Kilos: we had a long discussion on whether ubuntu-tweak should be included in Ubuntu, a couple of years ago [12:42] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.motu/6740 [12:42] we decided not to [12:42] ty tumbleweed [12:43] Who need to type when they can talk [12:43] there is some kinda tweak thing in software centre too must i leave that as well [12:43] I liek this post in that discussion: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.motu/6768 [12:44] gnome-tweak and myunity are in Ubuntu, because they just let you change configuration options [12:44] called ubuntu user ausgape [12:45] i cant copy it to paste here [12:45] ubuntu-tweak encourages adding lots of PPAs, and similarly dangerous things, that mean you are having to trust many more developers not to break your machine [12:45] oh my [12:45] ok ill try get things done wioth myunity only ty [12:46] In one word: TweakUI and Lockergnome for Windows [12:46] Well, ok, maybe more than one [12:46] My mind remembered Lockergnome later [12:46] :P [12:49] Oh and Gamegain and a few others [12:50] But then again, the GNOME philosophy is to treat the user like an idiot :/ [12:51] (What else do you call hiding configurable?) [12:53] And I'm paraphrasing Linus Torvalds before somebody jumps me on it [13:01] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html [13:01] He since moved to XFCE, but yea [13:07] I like offending people, because I think people who get offended should be offended. ---Torvalds, Linus (2012-06-14). [13:07] <3 [13:07] I am getting my tweaking fix with android [13:08] i tried to open the myunity thing and it shows in the menu onna left for 10 secs then disappears [13:09] all i wanna do is increase font sixe throughout [13:09] used to be in system [13:09] appearance i think [13:09] Run it in terminal and see if an error pops up [13:10] ok [13:10] nope just goes back to prompt [13:11] Weird [13:11] Does it have a -debug package? [13:11] lol what is supposed to open [13:12] i even got synaptic will go see [13:13] nope [13:14] Maaz, google how to use myunity in ubuntu 12.04 [13:14] Kilos: "Install MyUnity 3.0 on Ubuntu 12.04/11.10/11.04 (New Release ..." http://www.noobslab.com/2012/02/install-myunity-30-on-ubuntu.html :: "MyUnity 3.0 Supports Ubuntu 12.04 and Themes - Softpedia" http://news.softpedia.com/news/MyUnity-3-0-Supports-Ubuntu-12-04-and-Themes-255220.shtml :: "Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Features Unity Configuration Tool MyUnity ..." http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-12-04-LTS-Features-Unity-Configuration-Tool-239 [13:16] Kilos sorry for long wait. no i only have cat5 [13:16] np magespawn who knows what will happen without trying the mod hey? [13:17] Funny enough, I remember that Ubuntu tended to fix itself after a restart [13:17] indeed and he may be on a cable modem which might affect it. or it could just be a hoax/joke? [13:18] lol ill try a resatart [13:18] Mind you, I had a very limited understand how how Ubuntu worked. Even after understanding SliTaz and how it works, I still find Debian and Ubuntu's design mysterious [13:18] bbl [13:18] Not sure if that's a good or bad thing [13:18] lol [13:18] costs nothing to try except time === nlsthzn_ is now known as nlsthzn [13:57] wb Kilos [13:58] ty Trixar_za i found them font settings [13:59] and that myunity thing was underneeth another open window [13:59] underneath [13:59] oh my [14:04] The more I read about Linus Torvalds, the more I like him [14:21] i am out of here, see you all later [14:22] And I guess myunity is a single process program then [14:37] well it changed my font sizes which was all i needed at the mo [14:37] got tired of ctrl + everywhere [14:42] Trixar_za: unlike RMS, Torvalds is very pragmatic [14:43] opinionated, but pragmatic [14:43] What he has to say about RMS is also classic [14:44] But I would probably get along more with Torvalds than RMS [14:44] I'm a self-confessed bastard myself [15:10] * nlsthzn sent a message to the mailing list... but it doesn't seem to have gone through :/ [15:11] the one about monthly reports nlsthzn [15:12] ah I guess it did go through :p [15:13] thanks uncle Kilos [15:13] hehe [15:13] yw laddy [15:14] peeps are very slack until you push on their buttons personally [15:14] * nlsthzn won't know who has buttons that need pusing :p [15:14] they think later and then when later comes they have already forgotten what was supposed to be done later [15:14] pushing [15:15] what do you still need nlsthzn ? [15:15] just that anything that has happened the last month to be captured in the wiki :p [15:15] or someone to tell me and give links etc. and I or someone else can add them : [15:16] i dont think anything has happened [15:16] been very quiet since last meeting [15:17] make an appeal to the lists for guys to mail you info and links [15:17] not leave for tomorrow [15:18] domani never comes === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [15:43] wb Trix[a]r_za [16:43] Maaz, coffee on [16:43] * Maaz puts the kettle on [16:43] you home superfly ? [16:47] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [16:47] Maaz, ty [16:47] You are welcome Kilos [16:49] Kilos: sortof around [16:49] just checking you home sir [16:52] been "home" all week [16:53] oh my. you sick? [17:03] no, just looking after the family [17:17] evening all [17:27] hi magespawn [17:27] hmmm hiya mae [17:27] magespawn, [17:28] hey superfly [17:28] Hi Kilos [17:30] whats up? [17:30] winning slowly [17:31] getting unified [17:31] whats news your side [17:31] not much, not unified though [17:32] what is the command to find out the version of ubuntu again? [17:32] lol [17:32] ? [17:32] ask maaz [17:33] Maaz command to find version of ubuntu [17:33] magespawn: Huh? [17:33] Maaz, google how to check what release of ubuntu you are using [17:33] Kilos: "CheckingYourUbuntuVersion - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckingYourUbuntuVersion :: "How to Tell What Version of Ubuntu You Are Running - How-To Geek" http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-tell-what-version-of-ubuntu-you-are-running/ :: "Find which Ubuntu Linux Version you are running | Ubuntu Geek" http://www.ubuntugeek.com/find-which-ubuntu-linux-version-you-are-running.html :: "Check [17:33] can you browse magespawn [17:33] lol suppose I should google [17:33] yup [17:33] brb [17:33] ^^^ [17:33] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckingYourUbuntuVersion [17:34] charlvn_, where you [17:35] lsb_release -a [17:35] nuvolari, dis naweek jy mag kom gesels [17:36] that is the command, irks me when I forget stuff [17:36] lol [17:36] 10.04 on a resurrected laptop [17:36] thats good [17:36] the one with cracked screen? [17:38] no this is another one' [17:38] ah [17:38] what did you have to resurrect? [17:38] owner was told it was broken beyond repair [17:38] lol [17:38] cleaned the heat sink and hey presto [17:38] well done [17:39] very old though has 20 gig harddrive [17:39] cpu overheating? [17:39] but everything works [17:39] yes it was [17:39] 20g is good for lotsa peeps [17:39] yes it is for me. [17:39] lappy drives are expensive [17:40] better for them to get an external if they need more place [17:40] and on something this old not worth replacing [17:40] what specs [17:40] but they most likely want winsucks [17:41] the owner went and got a new one, gave me the old one, installed 10.4 as it only has 512 ram [17:41] ah [17:41] win was running slow [17:41] cpu speed? [17:41] not sure hold on [17:42] now i forgot how to ask for that [17:42] cat /proc/cpuinfo i think [17:42] intel celeron 1.5ghz [17:43] single core [17:43] the fly told me once but now its somewhere on the maverick drive or external [17:43] oh thats slow [17:43] but good for 10.04 [17:43] yes but it is fine for things like this, i also use in the shop to connect to the server [17:43] but more ram will be good [17:44] i was just amused the other computer shop got it so wrong [17:44] i found most releases like 640m ram to run lekker [17:44] do not think I have any laptop ram [17:44] magespawn: they only know windows, what do you expect? [17:44] ha ha ha [17:45] but this was a hardware problem they told the owner that something had melted and could not be replaced [17:45] windows doesnt work, pc stuffed [17:45] they were just covering their ignorance [17:46] most likely didnt even open it [17:47] this launcher thing on the left is same as adding apps to top panel with gnome [17:48] i could live with unity i think [17:48] no Kilos, noooo!!!!! [17:48] lol [17:48] *sob* I think we've lost him [17:48] what superfly must i go kde? [17:49] or add cinnamon [17:49] Kilos: stick to Unity :-) I was joking with you [17:49] whew [17:49] * Kilos wipes brow [17:50] of course I don't know Unity, so I can't help you, whereas if you used KDE, I would be able to [17:50] if its the future then one must go with the flow or go kde [17:50] but stick to one thing, don't run between them [17:50] ha ha ha [17:51] Kilos: gnome-shell? [17:51] but installing kubuntu-desktop isnt same as a full kubuntu install [17:51] not quite [17:51] zeref, unity isnt that bad if you have data to google how to do this or that [17:51] mostly [17:52] switching desktops is now 2 clicks not just one anymore [17:52] so one could lose time over the gnome way [17:53] superfly, what do the weed and crash kid use, do you know? [17:53] someone must enjoy unity [17:54] nlsthzn, you use unity hey? [17:55] Kilos: as far as I know, tumbleweed uses Gnome Shell and cocooncrash uses KDE [17:55] and old langjan seems to be getting good with unity [17:55] oh my goodness [17:55] Kilos: i use short-cuts + i'm using the keyboard more often, which is far quicker for me [17:55] * tumbleweed uses gnome fallback + xmonad. I'm not a shell fan [17:55] I do quite like unity, though [17:56] tumbleweed, you a gnome follower? [17:56] unity isnt bad, just a new learning curve [17:57] Kilos, I have a unity install [17:57] Kilos: not really [17:57] oh tumbleweed to open other terminals on other desktops you do ctrl +alt +t [17:58] it's quite likely to be different on each desktop [17:58] e.g. for me, alt-shift-enter [17:58] i like to open one terminal on xchat workspace and minimised terminal for my ibid [17:58] ctrl+shift+n [17:58] ctrl-alt-t is a gnome thing [17:58] oh [17:59] whew [17:59] isnt unity a gnome spinoff [17:59] im sure ive seen lotsa gnome stuff [18:00] Kilos: Unity is a desktop shell, like Gnome Shell or Plasma (KDE) [18:01] ok [18:02] nlsthzn, you happy with unity? [18:08] i like to try lots of different ones, and I am still using win a fair amount [18:08] magespawn, there another sneeky thing with win to add free ram [18:08] yo Banlam [18:09] Kilos, I love the idea... but there seems to be some major buginess for me at least still making it a trying experience [18:09] oh did you try it [18:09] from the cd fix video [18:10] oh sorry nlsthzn thought it was mage answering [18:10] no worries :) [18:11] nlsthzn, it gets better as you find how to do things [18:11] been using it since 11.04 uncle Kilos... I know the ins and outs... but when it doesn't do what it is supposed to I want to throw my PC out the window :) [18:11] lol [18:12] maybe you expect a bit much [18:12] you guys are to clever and expect funny things from a pc [18:13] i wish they wouldnt make gwibber part on default install [18:14] nope... just what it is supposed to do... if it did it 10 minuites ago.. why not now :p [18:14] gwibber only real twitter app for gnome... but it isn't to great I agree [18:14] i use twitter in pidgin [18:15] didnt you see todays tweet [18:16] superfly, all good with family, hows mrs_fly recovering [18:16] ? [18:17] Kilos: getting there [18:17] takes time [18:17] but they also enjoy being nursed [18:17] I didn't know that pidgin could do that... nice :) [18:18] pidgin rocks nlsthzn [18:19] isn't to shabby [18:19] saw a link where they say twitter doesnt work in 12.04 pidgin but mine is working [18:20] just did a deja-dup backup from maverick and it all works [18:20] i also still use evolution not thunderbird [18:21] never lost one mail [18:23] and now my usb hub isnt messing around with the 3g modem like on vodacom [18:23] 8ta works kiff here [18:23] from the same tower [18:30] bye! :D [18:30] :) [18:30] sleep tight smile [18:31] thanks Kilos :) [18:31] you too [18:31] and charlvn too :p [18:31] ty [18:34] yo Tonberry tonberry352_ [18:36] oh my goodness [18:36] magespawn, you safe i see [18:36] more than half net split [18:37] wow there goes Maaz [18:37] yup still here Kilos [18:37] how can qp be affected by the netsplit when she be installed here onna pc [18:37] Maaz, wb [18:37] Thank you so much Kilos my good good friend [18:38] WB everyone [18:38] exactly half split [18:40] tumbleweed, can you tell me how come my bot got affected by this last netsplit when its installed here on my pc? [18:40] i can understand maaz cause he is in germany [18:40] Kilos: it connected to a different server to you [18:41] Maaz: dig irc.freenode.net [18:41] tumbleweed: Records: 193.219.128.49, 38.229.70.20, 50.22.136.18, 86.65.39.15, 130.239.18.172, 140.211.167.98 and 140.211.167.99 [18:41] oh a freenode server? [18:41] which one you connect to would be random [18:41] ok ty that explains it [18:45] you can specify can't you? [18:46] i dunno how because xchat often has different servers [18:46] but random is good if the one you choose dies [18:47] but would be nice to make QP use same as my xchat [18:47] then at least bot wont split without you [18:48] magespawn, did you get that bit about free ram on winsucks [18:48] tumbleweed can you specify the server the ibid connects to? [18:48] yes i did but did not try it. no time today [18:49] oh ok would be interesting too seeing as you do lots of ms stuff [18:50] will give it a go when I can. do not see why it should only work in win [18:50] the command isnt a linux one [18:50] but the idea is good if one can convert it to linux [18:51] chowed lotsa data trhem youtube vids [18:51] mrs_fly, wb [18:52] haha the fly woke up his server [18:52] yeah only watch them at the shop [18:52] SmilyBorg_l, wassup [18:52] its dark time [18:53] uncapped is really the answer hey magespawn [18:53] ftw [18:53] imagine running your shop on broadband costs [18:53] mind you 8ta got good deals [18:53] would just be too slow when the system gets loaded [18:54] 3g does not handle mutiple computers very well [18:54] what speed you getting with mweb? [18:54] 1meg [18:54] maybe a good 3g router [18:54] ah a meg is way past sa's broadband [18:55] can use it as a fallover [18:55] im happy when i hit 350 k [18:55] sorry 1Mbps [18:55] i got that [18:56] 8ta hit 325kB/s here today but mostly around 125 kB/s [18:56] so the peak for download is about 100Kbps but it is more stable under load than 3g [18:56] yeah [18:57]