=== skreech_ is now known as Daskreech === slowz is now known as Guest42006 === Guest42006 is now known as slows === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [02:09] kde 4.9 has a new feature that you need wait two seconds to start to move the windows if you don't follow this rule your window will get stuck [02:09] what feature! [02:55] help me downgrade from kde 4.9? this is the worst release ever, I discovered know the bug that I was having with wine is a kde fault, it mess with the games screens [02:56] thousand of bugs, and I peoples released it as stable? [02:57] I am so irritated that I am writing wrong, the previous kde versions was working fine [03:02] killown: Ok remove teh backports ppa [03:04] talk about oveeerreacting [03:05] and just removing the ppa will not downgrade the packages [03:28] tuv0k: First step but granted not being able to movewindows is a very annoying bug [04:20] Can anyone help me install/config cups on my kubuntu 12.04 install? [04:24] dougl: Shoot [04:26] Daskreech, I cannot seem to do a clean install of cups... was working then I installed a printer and all hell broke loose... [04:27] from there I took a number of steps in the wrong direction and now I want to start from scratch but am un able to [04:29] I install cups and printers and try to print to them and get errors that google never heard of. [04:31] dougl: ok so ... you want a clean config ? [04:31] yes completely clean [04:33] tar -czf ~/poorpoorcups.tgz /etc/cups/ && sudo apt-get remove cups --purge && sudo apt-get install cups --reinstall [04:35] had to sudo the tar command too... done [04:37] Daskreech, all went well then I add a printer and try a test page I get There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-not-found'. [04:37] add a samba printer [04:38] which printer is this? [04:38] cx5000 [04:38] epson [04:38] I have tried adding another samba printer on the xp machine too and get the same error [04:43] dougl: It adds fine? [04:43] fine - no errors messages ... nothing [04:43] adds fine [04:44] Laptop? [04:44] desktop [04:44] poop [04:44] crap [04:44] would be interesting to know if you connected it directly if it worked ok [04:44] same [04:45] it does the same thing [04:46] printing test page from cups web interface = error and printing test page from system settings= error too [04:50] when you put the printer directly on the computer? [04:50] yes same happens [04:51] http://openprinting.org/printer/Epson/Epson-Stylus_CX5000 [04:51] !info gutenprint [04:51] Package gutenprint does not exist in precise [04:52] that is the printer [04:52] !info printer-driver-gutenprint [04:52] printer-driver-gutenprint (source: gutenprint): printer drivers for CUPS. In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.8~pre1-0ubuntu2 (precise), package size 372 kB, installed size 619 kB [04:52] There we go [04:53] That should be installed [04:53] yes it gets installed [04:53] Ok cool [04:54] I"m trying to figure out why accessing a samba printer makes cups restart here [04:54] what is the tail command so I can watch cups error log. [04:55] tail -f /var/log/cups/error.log [04:55] thxz [05:00] Daskreech, thanks for the help but I gotta hit the sack been at this since this am - catch you later [05:00] dougl: Ok guess wewill both regroup in the moring [05:00] morning [05:01] sounds good - thanks again... this one is really pissing me off going backwards real fast ya know, sleep tight see you in the am [06:50] anyone here? [07:07] is there a PPA or .DEB for the 1.0 release for Ubuntu? [07:08] release of what? [07:09] Nicekiwi, a 1.0 relase of what? [07:09] woops, of rekonq [07:10] Stable PPA i should say.. [07:10] oh, i dont know that one, i just use the official repo [07:10] you want daily builds or just what? [07:14] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+index?field.series_filter=precise think rekonq for 12.04 is in there, should be in standard if your trying 12.10 [07:14] Nicekiwi ^ [07:15] Phiscribe: its not there [07:16] doh sorry they said it was gonna be in backports [07:16] :/ lame [07:54] hi [07:55] I changed themes, but haven't been able to change the default and imo ugly default kde-grey in all apps and configuration dialogs. Which setting is that? thanks [07:57] Also, does Dolphin have a preference tab? can only move things to wastebin right now, rahter than outright delete [07:58] Also, dragging and dropping folders into other folders a pop-up dialog asks if I wish to cope or move HERE. Is it possible to just have it move and drop the folder without further option-dialogs popping up? It adds an unnecessary step === Rajesh is now known as Guest78061 === michael is now known as Guest38201 === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 [11:27] hello everyone [11:29] morning paddy [11:29] good evening :) [11:29] ok ;) === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] [11:50] hello everyone [11:51] morning phoenix_firebrd [11:51] mydogsnameisrudy: hi [11:52] * mydogsnameisrudy get new cup of coffee === Rajesh is now known as Guest34230 [11:53] can anyone pls help me to install tomcat server on ubuntu 12.04? [11:53] pls pls plsssss [11:54] :( no one here to help me [11:55] wow in a big hurry ;) [12:24] Hiyas all [12:24] BluesKaj: hi [12:24] hi [12:25] morning BluesKaj [12:25] hi phoenix_firebrd, livingdaylight, mydogsnameisrudy ...gonna be a hot one again today [12:26] BluesKaj: hot one? [12:26] hot day [12:26] BluesKaj, its another grey, windy one here ;) [12:27] BluesKaj: oh, here its dark and raining, climate is pleasant:) [12:27] phoenix_firebrd, where do you live? :) [12:27] livingdaylight: India [12:28] livingdaylight, not so nice for the olympics , participants in the outdoor events and the fans [12:28] phoenix_firebrd, monsoon? [12:28] livingdaylight: yep [12:28] phoenix_firebrd, nice :) [12:28] :) [12:29] phoenix_firebrd, you wouldn't consider 31C hot but here we do :) [12:29] BluesKaj, indeed not. Last week I was there: we had tickets for basketball and were totally rained on :/ [12:29] livingdaylight, bummer [12:30] BluesKaj: personally 18 c is hot for me [12:30] with their multi-billion pound budget they did not spend 1 penny on providing shelter of any sort. [12:31] ?? [12:31] the corporatelympics has nothing to do with real people on the ground [12:31] empty seats purchased \for the elite and their cronies [12:31] yup [12:32] BluesKaj: hot day ? http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/04/plasma-desktoptt1881.png === Sigma is now known as Guest46314 [12:33] yup, the olympis has always had an elitist attitude [12:36] I changed theme in kubuntu but apps and configuration dialogs still have the default kde-grey background. Can those be changed? [12:39] livingdaylight, yes , did you change the colour or the desktop window decoration ? [12:40] BluesKaj, I changed the theme, which changed taskbar (panels) . No, didn't look at window decoration [12:42] livingdaylight,the panel theme is the window decor as wel , the colour theme is what you want in system settings application appearance [12:42] hello? [12:43] I have an addiction to blue themes so i run the marble [12:43] hi season [12:44] when i press Shift+1 i got " [12:44] why? [12:44] hello BluesKaj [12:44] :p [12:44] i've chosen ubuntu yet [12:45] i have given up opensuse and fedora because of too many problems [12:47] check your locale in system settings [12:47] season,^ [12:47] i've chosen china [12:48] and the 2nd tab i've chosen simplified chinese as my prefer language [12:53] no body hears me :( [12:54] season, system settings>input devices>keyboard>advanced [12:56] @BluesKaj [12:56] @BluesKaj and then? [12:58] season, try different settings there [12:59] wow,there are so many settings [13:00] season, apparently that is what kde users want. If they don't; they'll to want them ;) [13:02] season, I only use to defeat the caps lock , otherwise I don't know much [13:03] hi [13:03] low [13:03] My question might be Wine-specific, I'm not sure [13:03] I've had Steam running under Wine for some time now, and just recently it stopped displaying text [13:03] Text of any sort [13:03] *Except* for the Steam Updater [13:04] I thought it might be a font problem but I've installed all of the fonts that Winetricks has [13:04] Maybe it's something to do with KDE after all? [13:08] :( [13:10] but my computer run well with windows 7 [13:10] perhaps the chinese KB 2nd tab setting affects the shift settings , season [13:13] you means i should set preferred language is english? [13:13] season, I don't know for sure , I'm speculating [13:14] thanks,i've changed it.but... [13:16] !cn [13:16] 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw [13:17] maybe they can help you season ^ [13:17] let me try,thanks BlueKaj [13:25] bbl [14:27] Hi guys! I have a little problem here: my mixer does not remember my last volume setting after reboot. That's quite annoying, since i often start my laptop in a library ; ) i'm using ubuntu 12.04 with kde 4.8.4. Does anyone know something about that? is there a config file i could modify? Or something else? [14:45] Daskreech, morning, you around? === jEhrichs_ is now known as jEhrichs [14:53] so quiet in here you can hear a ping drop! === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:11] dougl, ping ! === disse is now known as Guest22675 [15:13] How are you? [15:17] Anyone have time to help me fix cups... I backed up/moved some cups directories and broke my cupsnconfig [15:23] Yo! === Guest22675 is now known as disse_ [15:28] Yo listen to a story bout a man named blue... [15:29] If someone drops in at some point: Wondering how to move "new activity bar" after its dropped down http://clip2net.com/s/2b2pt Sorry, if I'm not using the correct names still at this point [15:30] sorry about possible repost, but i lost connection... Hi guys! I have a little problem here: my mixer does not remember my last volume setting after reboot. That's quite annoying, since i often start my laptop in a library ; ) i'm using ubuntu 12.04 with kde 4.8.4. Does anyone know something about that? is there a config file i could modify? Or something else? === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 === Sigma is now known as Guest89888 [15:48] sorry about possible repost, but i lost connection... Hi guys! I have a little problem here: my mixer does not remember my last volume setting after reboot. That's quite annoying, since i often start my laptop in a library ; ) i'm using ubuntu 12.04 with kde 4.8.4. Does anyone know something about that? is there a config file i could modify? Or something else? << if he comes back, ask him to make sure that his master [15:48] channel is set properly [15:50] livingdaylight: yo [15:50] dougl: yep [15:55] Daskreech, good morning, how are you today? [16:06] !info tomcat [16:07] Package tomcat does not exist in precise [16:09] marcnesium2000: as in You turn off the sound log out and log back in and the sound turns back on? [16:09] dougl: I'm fine [16:10] Daskreech, messing with my printer issues here - you still up for the challenge? [16:12] dougl: Sure [16:12] marcnesium2000: do you have anew session everytime You login or is it a saved session? [16:12] Daskreech, k - just finishing the train of thot I am on and we can at least chat and with any luck fix. [16:12] brb [16:13] Daskreech: a new session [16:13] marcnesium2000: Ah that might be setting it back to KDE defaults at boot [16:14] do you know, where these default settings reside? [16:14] would be ok for me, if i could change the default [16:16] Daskreech, ok back now from a fresh boot after purging cup thru apt get [16:16] dougl: train of thot sounds like an interesting book [16:16] marcnesium2000: dpkg -L kubuntu-default-settings [16:17] marcnesium2000: can you type qdbus org.kde.kmix /kmix/KMixWindow/actions/mute com.trolltech.Qt.QAction.trigger in a konsole? [16:17] Daskreech, would be but the train derailed - lol [16:18] Interesting plot and rail twist [16:18] :) [16:18] it mutes, but throws: [16:18] Unable to load library icui18n "Cannot load library icui18n: (libicui18n.so.48: falsche ELF-Klasse: ELFCLASS64)" [16:18] marcnesium2000: if you run it again does it unmute ? [16:18] yapp [16:19] ah ok thats good [16:20] default kmixrc is uninteresting... [16:20] must be somewhere else [16:22] I did "sudo tar -czf ~/poorpoorcups1.tgz /etc/cups/ && sudo apt-get remove cups --purge && sudo apt-get install cups --reinstall" and my prompt never came back -> hung at "Updating PPD files for ppd-updaters ..." on the screen can someone give me some moral support - what is it doing? === stephen is now known as Guest4809 [16:23] Daskreech: you suggest a little script that is executed by autostart? have to try that... not sure if it is executed before startsound... [16:25] dougl: There there. There there [16:26] Daskreech, LOL [16:26] Daskreech, cups install seems to have hung... [16:26] marcnesium2000: it should be. It would go in ~/.kde/Autostart [16:26] dougl: how long has it sat there? [16:27] sudo apt-get install cups --reinstall = E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) [16:27] Daskreech: you know what this error msg mean? you get that tt? [16:27] Daskreech, about 5 min... [16:27] maybe 10 [16:27] marcnesium2000: No It's a internationalization string error (i18n) is short for internationalization [16:27] dougl: ick [16:27] ok [16:27] is apt stopped now? [16:28] no [16:28] still hanging [16:28] Daskreech: ah, ok. [16:28] ctrl+C it [16:28] Daskreech: thanx 4 ur help! [16:28] I tried nothing happens adn apt-get does not show up in htop [16:28] or top [16:30] marcnesium2000: I think that putting that command into a script in ~/.kde/Autostart and making it executable should mute the sound on login [16:30] dougl: you ctrl+C the apt-get ? [16:30] did you [16:31] yes and nothing happens [16:31] Daskreech, did you see thresponse your question in #kde ? "kmix configure .... restore volume on login" [16:31] Yes I was looking for the restore volumes [16:31] marcnesium2000: can you open the mixer [16:31] BluesKaj: thanks [16:32] dougl: <_< [16:32] Daskreech: yapp, no prob [16:32] marcnesium2000: settings -> configure Kmix -> restore volumes on login [16:32] Daskreech: but haven't tried restart yet [16:32] Daskreech> dougl: <_< =? [16:33] marcnesium2000: test away [16:33] yeah, found that one before, does not work [16:33] dougl: do you have dpkg in your processes? [16:34] checking [16:35] Daskreech> dougl: do you have dpkg in your processes? No [16:35] dougl: <_< [16:35] v_V [16:35] ok I'm guessing this is in a konsole? ^_^ [16:36] yes [16:40] Daskreech, this is messed... I closed the konsole and "sudo apt-get install cups --reinstall" = "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)" still [16:42] hey can i ask a question [16:42] ? [16:43] !ask | martian5252 [16:43] martian5252: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [16:43] domino2au: good [16:43] martian5252: yes [16:44] How can I get the windows 7 window list in KDE where it uses icons for each window? [16:45] dougl: You rebooted? [16:45] martian5252: alt+f2 -> switcher [16:45] Daskreech, I don't know what is going on but my box is going down hill real quick - yes rebooted... [16:46] dougl: Oh I was goign to tell you how to fix that when I got a call [16:46] it's a simple thing [16:46] hi livingdaylight [16:46] aloha Daskreech [16:47] Daskreech, and tried to reinstall cups again and got a message..."sudo apt-get install cups" = "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." so I did that and it hangs at the same message... [16:48] livingdaylight: it has a modifier beside the names just press the key before you let go the mouse button [16:48] sudo dpkg --configure -a = Setting up cups (1.5.3-0ubuntu2) ..., Updating PPD files for cups ... and Updating PPD files for ppd-updaters ... and it hangs [16:48] dougl: do you have dpkg in the listing now? [16:48] ps aux | grep dpkg [16:48] livingdaylight: aloha [16:49] Daskreech, you referring to moving my activity thingy/ [16:49] livingdaylight: no that's different you need ihatethecashew for that [16:49] livingdaylight: That was for the pop up when moving files [16:50] Daskreech, ps aux | grep dpkg = doug 2525 0.0 0.0 9376 924 pts/1 S+ 11:49 0:00 grep --color=auto dpkg [16:51] Daskreech, ps aux | grep dpkg = doug 2525 0.0 0.0 9376 924 pts/1 S+ 11:49 0:00 grep --color=auto dpkg [16:51] Daskreech, ahhh, moving the files! - yes yes... hrmm.. don't see what you mean. I'll have a look later when I'm back on Kubuntu. I'm on the laptop right now. i'll look up "ihatethecashew nut" also - thx for that [16:52] Daskreech, this time I did ctrl+c and it quits but installing cups again makes it hang at same spot... "Updating PPD files for ppd-updaters ..." [16:52] dougl: ok leave it for a while. Just occurred to me the ppd configuring might take a while [16:53] dougl: In the meantime. .. Umm how's things? [16:54] Daskreech, what can I say... it is linux => about as easy as a root canal and twice as fun! [16:55] Hooray fun :) [16:55] Daskreech, pisses me off tho... how hard is it to install a fekin printer... this is day 3 [16:56] dougl: Well if it's anything like mine It's probably samba. Works fine connected but something between Apple and Microsoft makes cups and samba hate each other [16:57] Daskreech, I have it printing to both samba printers connected to my XP box from my notebook 12.04 install [16:58] dougl: yep same kind of issue here too. [16:58] WTF [16:59] at least your cups stays up. Mine tries to print says it can't find the printer. Puts the job on hold, decides it needs to reboot, restarts the CUPS server then prints the job 4 hours later [17:00] Daskreech, now that productivity... [17:01] Yeah but I suspect it's cups. Apple owns it and recently announced they were going to put in changes that would make things work better for Apple products but might possibly screw up other UNIXes [17:01] So it really likes Appletalk type protocols now [17:02] Daskreech, New and improved then half the function disappears and the other half breaks everything else... that is a Microsoft approach [17:04] dougl: Well as I said basically run by Microsoft and Apple so \o/ [17:04] Samba has good guys so I'm trying to see if I can get it sorted from that side [17:04] CUPS guys basically stopped talking to people even more than they did before once they all got hired by Apple [17:06] Daskreech, that is too bad [17:06] dougl: I think it will get fixed but wish I knew what it was doing the logs are very opaque [17:07] Daskreech, I dont get much out of cups logs either [17:08] I gave up on printers/cups after 11.10 .after that none of our HPs would print , from a basic 50buck printer up to a fancy all in one my daughter used on her mac ..none wilkl work on kubuntu anymore . I gave up trying to figure out what's wrong . Just transfer the file to wife's windows pc and she prints it for me [17:11] BluesKaj, I think that is what I have to settle for now... but like I was saying to Daskreech - I am going backwards... 1st I got 2 images and double spaced, 2nd I got cups errors when trying to print test page and now cups does not even install. [17:11] it's adamn shame ..HP used to be linux friendly [17:11] Yeah but the print catridges are so much money. === Sigma is now known as Guest85791 [17:12] we just print in blck and white and grayscale at that [17:13] we don't need to print fancy colours for nothing [17:13] That is not too bad... at least you arent throwing away un used ink in single multi colourd cartridge. [17:14] Updating PPD files for ppd-updaters ... still going = How long is this supposed to take? [17:15] yeah I tried the ppd file route too , but they failed too ..think there's some communication problem between the pc and the printer even with the right drivers [17:16] BluesKaj: Well they started openprinting.org to take back control of the printing stack. [17:17] llke Daskreech , said the jobs queue just sits athere and does nothing , and don't have patience to wait for hrs [17:18] BluesKaj: I have it slightly worse I'm trying to get this working for a business printing receipts for customers [17:18] lexmark is the worst brand for linux , but really works well on windows 7 [17:19] Daskreech, not good :( [17:19] I know :-( [17:19] Printing in general is crap. There should be a generic printing driver, like the default VGA driver [17:19] well lexmark recently committed to opening all their drivers to get them working on linux [17:19] my samsung is doing the exact same thing my lexmard did 10 years aga... that is why I changed to HP then Epson and now samsung [17:20] ago [17:20] Qazax: should be but doubtful the printing industry would ever do that. They make a lot of money on drivers [17:20] Samsung actualyl has a linux printer page [17:20] I was impressed with that :) [17:20] Daskreech: Yup, not thinking what is best for the customers and more what is best for their pockets :( [17:21] dask I havent seen one for the Lexmark X5470 , but I understand their driver support for business class printing is actually very good in linux [17:21] Qazax: They are legally obligated to do that. [17:21] Daskreech,^ [17:21] dpending on the situation they can be charged for thinking in terms of the consumer [17:21] how so? *interested* [17:21] BluesKaj: ok [17:21] because of shares? [17:22] Qazax: Yes. if it's a publicly shared company [17:22] Private can do whatever they want of course [17:22] swings and roundabouts [17:23] I'm lucky I don't need to print stuf at home :) [17:23] *stuff [17:23] Speaking of Linux support, the Spotify app is really good [17:23] I do print at home but not across samba so it's pretty easy [17:23] it sucked through Wine [17:25] Daskreech, konsole is stuck again... any suggestions? [17:26] Yeah a lot more companies are rolling out on Linux and some are even starting on Linux and then porting to Windows so things are looking up [17:26] dougl: Wish I knew which process was doing the ppd configuring [17:28] Part of the point of CUPs (and X ) is that you are not supposed to install it yourself. cause it's a pain [17:28] I think installing the kernel is less fiddly [17:28] Daskreech, ps aux | grep dpkg = 'root 2535 0.0 0.2 17508 6104 pts/3 Ss+ 11:49 0:00 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 65 --configure cups:amd64 printer-driver-gutenprint:amd64', 'root 2536 0.0 0.6 59608 12760 pts/3 S+ 11:49 0:00 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/debconf/frontend /var/lib/dpkg/info/cups.postinst configure', 'root 2546 0.0 0.0 4392 764 pts/3 S+ 11:49 0:00 /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/cups.post [17:28] inst configure' and 'doug 3080 0.0 0.0 9376 924 pts/1 S+ 12:25 0:00 grep --color=auto dpkg' [17:28] dougl: Ah there we go it's running [17:28] Daskreech, ? [17:30] it's configuring the printer-driver-gutenprint package [17:31] Daskreech, that is the thing... it has been running for about 35 minutes... I did a dist-upgrade on a slower machine - Can you tell it is doing something for sure or is it hung saying it is doing something? [17:32] dougl: I think the issue is the --reinstall I did it's configuring everything from scratch [17:32] and upgrade will only replce parts that changed [17:32] the --reinstall wipes everything and starts over. CUPS is kinda big [17:33] Daskreech, ok - but this is a "sudo apt-get install cups" [17:33] not the reintall that I was tryihng befor I rebooted. [17:33] dougl: yes but it already did a wipe so it's picking up from where that left off [17:35] Daskreech, I trust you... so I will let it go while I go for coffee - If need be you'll have to do the "there there" for moral support again - LOL [17:36] there there :) [17:37] dougl, Daskreech is da man [17:37] Ok I'll step out to get some grub as well and come back [17:37] Look what I stumbled upon in Synaptic, lol http://phttp://pastebin.com/bygUYdVCastebin.com/bygUYdVC [17:38] livingdaylight, I like the channel and ppl here :) [17:39] dougl, tbh, its the people that have kept me in Kubuntu this far. KDE is not ''home'' for me, but slowly getting used to it. [17:40] livingdaylight, did you login to pastebin and then upload the paste , because I'm not seeing anything [17:40] BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/bygUYdVC [17:41] he kinda messed it up. Assuming livingdaylight is a he :) [17:42] Daskreech, he is, hrmmm, and has, somehow, it seems [17:43] small thing [17:43] http://clip2net.com/s/2b3pf [17:45] i'm really quite disappointed with printer support since last yr and I don't see much being done about it . Nothing's changed at al [17:47] BluesKaj: Yeah well people are amazed it's lasted this long [17:47] over the years its got better, at least in Ubuntu, which I presume means Kubuntu also... but, its best to check which printers really DO work in GNU/Linux insttead of expecting any printer to work. I know that doesn't help if one already has one [17:47] Apple bought out the entire printer stack to prevent it from going to GPLv3 but up until just the past few months they have been really good about keeping it working for everyone [17:50] Part of the reasons why people do not want Microsoft to take over the bootloader now [17:51] well I guess that would have been obvious regradless [17:51] regardless [17:51] livingdaylight, oddly enough all the HP printers we have have driver support in kubuntu printer settings , but none of the printers work , all 3 start and then freeze , as if waiting for more instructions from the pc . [17:51] Gawd, its really WAR out there? [17:51] BluesKaj, geez, sounds like its got worse then? [17:52] livingdaylight, yes exactly [17:52] today I read that collecting rainwater is illegal in the state of Oregon - madness- [17:53] Private-for-profit companies think they can own the planet and fleece everyone on it to death [17:54] Well that's how the system is setup [17:54] Well except for Europe [17:54] they are really hostile towards that [17:55] but Asia is moving more to that companies run everything model as well [17:55] I know this is getting off-topic, but people need to wake up about the increasing control put on their lives: http://www.naturalnews.com/036615_Oregon_rainwater_permaculture.html [17:56] Yeah that's probably a #kubuntu-offtopic discussion :) === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] [18:21] hi [18:22] is it possible to install kubuntu on a external usbhdd? I'm new in linux. I downloaded the CD and now I'm burning the image... [18:29] Key-Real, yes , you can , there can be issues with the bootloader depending on which OS you have on your main HDD. [18:30] win7 [18:31] Daskreech, ok, back now - still Updating PPD files for ppd-updaters ... been an hour and a half - lol [18:38] Gulp! help... sudo apt-get update = E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. = Errors were encountered while processing: cups printer-driver-gutenprint... [18:39] dougl, ok run , sudo dpkg --configure -a , it might work [18:40] BluesKaj, thanks - did that and "Errors were encountered while processing: cups printer-driver-gutenprint" and back to command prompt [18:41] dougl, try , sudo apt-get install -f [18:43] BluesKaj, same error while processing cups and printer-driver-gutenprint [18:45] Key-Real, ok , but make sure you install the grub bootloader , it may autoinstall depending on which kubuntu version you have. [18:46] dougl, try this , sudo dpkg --clear-avail [18:46] mom I try to erase the data on my usbhdd with partedmagic... [18:48] BluesKaj, sudo dpkg --clear-avail was successfull no errors and return to command prompt [18:48] Key-Real, not necessary, the partitioning phase of the kubuntu install will ask you if you want to erase data [18:49] I had to view how big my usbhdd is [18:49] well , dougl , it's hard to tell if it worked ..cups is probly still not installed properly , it just removed the broken packages that were blocking dpkg [18:49] It is 1.36g [18:50] ok, I'm starting kubuntu [18:51] Key-Real, 136G I hope [18:51] It should be so setuped that I just plug the usbhdd to start lin and if not it should start win automaticly. is it possible? [18:51] 136TB [18:51] :) [18:51] 1.36TB [18:52]