[00:00] <Guest94830> so does this mean that the entire 100G is used up already?
[00:00] <Guest94830> or is it still only using the 4G i partitioned for the os?
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest94830: can you give an output of:  sudo fdisk -l; mount; lsb_release -a      please use http://pastie.org (or similar) to host
[00:01] <Guest94830> okay, 1 second
[00:04] <helpme5> is there a program for ubuntu that stores docuements? or notes but with search function ?
[00:05] <helpme5> in a single digital format
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> helpme5: dash does that
[00:05] <Guest94830> http://pastie.org/4386657
[00:07] <hydrox24> romy_420: sorry, I was having breakfast...
[00:07] <hydrox24> romy_420: have you tried with JUST the new card yet?
[00:07] <romy_420> np
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> Guest94830: ok and the output of:  df -h      Thanks
[00:08] <romy_420> hydrox24, i wouldnt like that, because everytime i change the dualhead configuration the ati driver wants a reboot and it took quite long to get it going
[00:09] <romy_420> including intermittent boot failures
[00:09] <_Tristan> Hello. I'm using encfs to encrypt my ~/Private folder, which contains a number of important things (.config, .local, etc) which are symlinked in ~. The issue is that it doesn't automatically mount when I log in.
[00:09] <_Tristan> How can I make an encfs thingy automount?
[00:09] <romy_420> hydrox24, google wasnt too fruitful too, only someone who had a similar issue with an older kernel and said it was due ti bios and power mgmt issues (acpi)
[00:10] <Auditor> _Tristan how do you mount it
[00:10] <hydrox24> similar to your computer (check for BIOS updates maybe?)
[00:10] <hydrox24> ?
[00:10] <_Tristan> Auditor: encfs ~/.private ~/Private, then type the passphrase when prompted
[00:10] <romy_420> hydrox24, i'm also not sure if a too weak psu could lead to this, mine is only 425w
[00:11] <Auditor> _Tristan you can enter that command into the session start up list
[00:11] <Guest94830> http://pastie.org/4386684
[00:12] <_Tristan> Auditor: I could, but I'd have to type my password twice when logging in
[00:13] <Auditor> _tristan check if there is a way to pass the password to the program through the command
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Guest94830: looks like you set the partitions backward at install
[00:13] <Auditor> _tristan check the man for the program and see
[00:13] <Sazpaimon_> am I right to assume you cannot extend your root partition on-line even if it's ext4?
[00:13] <Guest94830> lol
[00:13] <Guest94830> so a reinstall is needed?
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest94830: that, or make a folder in your system partition, chown it to your user then symlink it to your home folder so that data saved to the link is saved on the larger partition
[00:15] <Guest94830> thank you
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest94830: i'd reinstall and set the partitions the right way around :)
[00:16] <Guest94830> okay
[00:16] <Guest94830> have a nice day
[00:17] <bzzzz> .qui
[00:20] <romy_420> hydrox24, there is a newer bios but they only mention that it updates cpu micro code. not sure if it's worth the try to update, but after the logs just filled up all of my / hd ... gonny try with the new one alone. ty
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon_: you'll need to boot to the livecd to resize partitions
[00:23] <helpme5> action parsnip
[00:23] <helpme5> i want a digital docuement with serach function
[00:23] <helpme5> not a program that holds docuements
[00:24] <helpme5> like a personal note program
[00:24] <helpme5> notes
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> helpme5: tried tomboy?
[00:29] <brian__> when i try to log in i get an error
[00:30] <brian__> could not update ICEathority
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> brian__: boot to root recovery mode and run:   sudo chown foo:foo /home/foo/.ICEauthority
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> brian__: cage foo for your username
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> *change
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> brian__: you've been running:  sudo nautilus     haven't you
[00:32] <brian__> alright ill have to write that down,
[00:32] <Chamunks> is there a way to get Wake On Lan over wifi?
[00:32] <brian__> i beleve so
[00:32] <Chamunks> or at least out of stanby on lan lol
[00:32] <brian__> i can use the guest acount, but it wont let me login to my normal acount
[00:32] <Chamunks> I just need a yes or no for now im headed out the door.
[00:32] <escott> brian__, can't use the guest account for that
[00:32] <brian__> yeah no sudo i know
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> brian__: gksudo is to be used with gui apps, not sudo. It causes this issue
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> brian__: you need an account in the admin group
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> brian__: one that can also use sudo, basically
[00:34] <brian__> my mornal acount has all the permissions i need im just useing this account to get the support i need
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> brian__: then use root recovery mode and you won't need sudo
[00:35] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, you're incredibly knowledgeable do you think wake on lan over wifi is possible? I've got an xbmc i want to run only from my android remote app
[00:35] <brian__> alright so recovory mode, then use  the command  "sudo chown foo:foo /home/foo/.ICEauthority"
[00:36] <Chamunks> i mainly need a yes no answer if its possible or not I'll look into it later i just want to know if you think its possible.
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: not something I've ever used, sorry
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> brian__: change the word foo in each case, for your username
[00:36] <Chamunks> fair thanks ActionParsnip
[00:36] <brian__> yeah i got it, well ill be back
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> brian__: remember to match case
[00:37] <escott> brian__, also check Xauthority
[00:37] <brian__> yup will do
[00:37] <brian__> how do i check that?
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> brian__: use TAB, makes life easier :)
[00:37] <brian__> use tab?
[00:37] <SIFTU>        /buffer 18
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> brian__: yes, the key above capslock...
[00:38] <brian__> i know but for what?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> brian__: it autocompletes filenames and folders after you type a few characters of the file or folder
[00:38] <brian__> ahh okay well ill brb ill let you know how this works out
[00:39] <helpme5> is there something similar to wine ?
[00:39] <helpme5> for windows software
[00:39] <helpme5> not for games
[00:45] <louiemat> how do you install drivers on ubuntu 12.04 64bit install, I have the driver in my home directory but don't know what to do next, help please
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> helpme5: cedega or crossoveroffice, neither are free in any way
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> louiemat: what is the driver for?
[00:47] <louiemat> for a epson prefection v30 scanner
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> louiemat: ok, what filename do you have?
[00:47] <helpme5> ok thanks
[00:48] <louiemat> what do you mean
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> louiemat: what is the filename you downloaded?
[00:49] <louiemat> esci-interpreter-gt-f720_0.0.12
[00:51] <louiemat> I also have iscan_2.22.ltd17.deb
[00:51] <brian__> no luck
[00:51] <brian__> it said that ICEauthority didnt exist
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> louiemat: ok then run:  cd ~/Downloads; sudo dpkg -i ./iscan_2.22.ltd17.deb
[00:53] <brian__> then from thhe root console i typed  lightdm and reloged in as guest
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> brian__: if you run:  ls -la /home/foo/.ICEauthority     is the file owned by you?
[00:56] <brian__> well it said it didnt exist
[00:56] <DracoDanLRPC> I have a need for kernel 3.5 (Fiber channel target) for a home server, it needs to be fairly stable as it acts as the shared storage for a pair of ESXi hosts.  Would I be better off running 12.04 with the 3.5-quantzel kernel (which I'm doing now and it seems stable) or upgrading to 12.10 alpha1 and using the same kernel?
[00:56] <brian__> so i cd to that dir, and didnt see it with ls
[00:57] <L3top> ls -la ~/.ICEauthority          brian__
[00:57] <brian__> can i run that from the guest acount?
[00:57] <L3top> no brian__... sorry.
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> brian__: do it in the root recovery console
[00:58] <L3top> brian__: foo in ActionParsnips example meant your user name
[00:58] <OerHeks> DracoDanLRPC, alfa3, yes i would try that, join #ubuntu+1 for support please
[00:58] <brian__> yeah i did that
[00:59] <Alan502> Hey, I'm trying set the language of a new ubuntu 10.04 fresh install to spanish but it doesn't have an internet connection. How can I do this?
[00:59] <DracoDanLRPC> OerHeks: thanks
[00:59] <ari__> morning
[01:00] <L3top> was all I was trying to convey... just ls -la /home/foo
[01:00] <L3top> brian__: ^
[01:00] <brian__> alright ill try that one and will be back
[01:01] <louiemat> ActionParsnip  I Options marked [*] produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[01:01] <louiemat> louiemat@louis-Ubuntu:~/Downloads$
[01:01] <nick789> hi
[01:02] <blackshirt> hi nick789
[01:02] <Alan502> Can someone help me install the spanish language on ubuntu 10.04
[01:03] <MonkeyDust> Alan502  have you asked in #ubuntu-es?
[01:03] <blackshirt> alan502, was that not installed by default?
[01:04] <Alan502> blackshirt: no! I forgot to
[01:05] <nick789> need suggestion for screen recording, similar to camtasia studio in windows
[01:05] <MonkeyDust> nick789  try kazam
[01:05] <nick789> MonkeyDust thanx, will give it a shot
[01:06] <blackshirt> recordmydesktop
[01:07] <PicCard> Hi Nick789
[01:07] <brian__> i get the same result,  "no such file or directory"
[01:08] <L3top> brian__: foo again, is your username.
[01:08] <brian__> yes sir
[01:08] <L3top> you HAVE to have a /home/userdirectory with a normal install
[01:09] <L3top> if you DELETED that... it is probably why whatever your original problem is, exists brian__
[01:09] <brian__> i dooo, i just dont have the ICEauthoriy
[01:09] <L3top> That would not produce "no such file or directory"
[01:09] <gopikrishnan> how to chat on empathy
[01:09] <brian__> i can try to explain how i set it up if it would help?
[01:09] <L3top> ls -la /home/<brian__'susername
[01:10] <L3top> >
[01:10] <L3top> eg.... in my pretend case... ls -la /home/l3top     would NOT produce ls -la /home/foo
[01:10] <L3top> gr
[01:10] <L3top> would NOT produce no such file or directory
[01:11] <brian__> L3top, i have windows xp on my pc, ok? it consists of 2 partitions that are bolth fat 32
[01:11] <romy_420> hydrox24, i removed the old card, reinstalled fglrx in recovery mode and now it seems fine
[01:12] <L3top> brian__: this is ubuntu support. Can you please restate your original issue?
[01:12] <brian__> L3top, the first one is a system...  the 2nt one is used for documents and music etc.
[01:12] <L3top> brian__: I butted in because I thoughtyou might have actually typed foo.
[01:13] <User_420> brian__, delete them both and install Linux
[01:13] <brian__> L3top, i installed ubuntu
[01:13] <User_420> =)
[01:13] <brian__> L3top, in a 3rd  ext4 partition
[01:13] <L3top> brian__: did you select the default "use the entire disk" option in the ubuntu installer?
[01:13] <User_420> brian__, you need at least 4 partitions
[01:13] <User_420> brian__, for ubuntu
[01:13] <L3top> Ok brian__... just summerize the entire issue you are having on ONE line.
[01:14] <PicCard> /msg nick789 y
[01:14] <J3f> fail xd
[01:14] <User_420> /fail
[01:15] <brian__> L3top, no because i wanted to mount my user partition at  /home/user  so my home dir would be shared in bolth osed
[01:15] <J3f> lawl xd
[01:15] <PicCard> /query
[01:15] <L3top> brian__: windows cannot see your linux partition.
[01:16] <L3top> brian__: are you trying to setup your /home/user partition in fat32?
[01:16] <brian__> L3top, i did
[01:16] <brian__> and it works
[01:17] <L3top> brian__: again... I am not trying to piece together a patchwork problem. Please restate your ISSUE on ONE line.
[01:17] <MonkeyDust> brian__  windows only recognizes windows, what you can do: create a FAT or NTFS partition on which you put the shared files
[01:18] <brian__> L3top, when loging on i get an error that says something like "cant update ICEauthority"
[01:18] <L3top> brian__: you put /home... not /home/user on a fat32 partition... yes?
[01:19] <Alan502> Can someone help me install the spanish language on ubuntu 10.04 offline?
[01:19] <brian__> its its own partition, when i setup ubuntu i had it setup to mount my user partition at /home/user
[01:19] <W4sp> brian__: L3top, is it an NTFS partition w/out rw flag mounted on /home or /home/brian__?
[01:20] <brian__> its fat32
[01:20] <CynepCupon> hello, anyone have any advise about ATI RADEON HD drivers??? fglrx. i'm getting 20fps in half life 2. any help please?
[01:20] <L3top> brian__: it has to be /home      not /home/user   and you must setup fstab to mount it.
[01:21] <CynepCupon> i also have no sound in half life 2
[01:21] <CynepCupon> running Ubuntu 12.04 precise
[01:21] <L3top> your user will exist within this directory... however linux will create /home and if you are trying to mount /home/user it will be screwed.
[01:21] <brian__> alright well with out being able to login, i have  winxp, then ubuntu guest and i got the recovory console, how do i change my fstab
[01:23] <escott> brian__, in recovery console you can use a text editor like nano "nano /etc/fstab"
[01:23] <L3top> brian__: I do not believe you are hearing me. If you have a /home in your linux install and you are trying to mount /home/user on another partition... this cannot work.
[01:23] <L3top> Correct me if I am wrong folks.
[01:23] <brian__> i dose work, i cd to it and it shows my files on my user partition
[01:24] <escott> brian__, reading back through your earlier messages you suggest that /home/user would be on a non-unix partition type. thats a bad idea. its fine to have subdirectories of /home/user on fat or ntfs but you should not have /home/user
[01:24] <morfeu> olá
[01:24] <morfeu> algum brasileiro?
[01:24] <L3top> !br
[01:24] <brian__> it shows my user partition at /home/user
[01:24] <L3top> nm... afk.
[01:24] <morfeu> !br
[01:25] <CynepCupon> anyone know about gaming in ubuntu? is there an alternative to fglrx ATI propriatery drivers?
[01:26] <L3top> CynepCupon: the native radeon driver... what is wrong with fglrx that you do not wish to use it... if you are trying to game?
[01:27] <brian__> i just found a file called .ICEauthority-c in my home/user/ dir
[01:27] <Belial> CynepCupon, you're not going to get anywhere near the performance of the fglrx driver with the opensource driver in intensive games.
[01:27] <CynepCupon> L3top, HL2 is getting 20fps max
[01:28] <Belial> which card is it, CynepCupon ?
[01:28] <CynepCupon> i dunno if fglrx is using the dedicated video card
[01:28] <CynepCupon> AMD 3420, Radeon 6650M
[01:28] <CynepCupon> "dual graphics"
[01:28] <brian__> im just going to figure this one out on my own, thanks any way L3top
[01:28] <Belial> oh, so like nvidia's optimus?
[01:28] <CynepCupon> but it should just be the 1GB dedicated video
[01:29] <CynepCupon> it says i'm running VESA: SUDO
[01:29] <CynepCupon> SUMO***
[01:29] <Belial> i honestly don't know how amd handles switchable graphics or if they even work out of the box in linux.
[01:29] <Belial> but it does sound like it's using your integrated card.
[01:29] <Belial> because hl2 should be getting way higher fps than 20 with that card.
[01:29] <CynepCupon> yes, i think its using the integrated card
[01:30] <CynepCupon> ATI Catalyst says it can switch between them, i have it set for best performance, instead of best battery life.
[01:30] <Belial> hmm
[01:30] <CynepCupon> i only play one video game, Day of Defeat Source
[01:30] <Belial> does it specify switching in linux?
[01:30] <CynepCupon> and i abandoned MacOSX because it only got between 20-30 with integrated 256mb card
[01:30] <Belial> or just in general?
[01:31] <Belial> because if it doesn't specify that it switches in linux, it's probaby just a windows/osx thing.
[01:31] <CynepCupon> its catalyst for linux
[01:31] <Belial> ah, ok.
[01:31] <Belial> something is definitely wrong.
[01:31] <Belial> then again, you're running through wine.
[01:31] <Belial> so it could be something there too.
[01:31] <CynepCupon> can't find the forum i was on a few days ago.. someone said they switched to a different driver and got 140fps+ again
[01:31] <CynepCupon> yes, wine.
[01:31] <CynepCupon> is there something better than wine?
[01:32] <AaronMT> !hoary
[01:32] <Belial> maybe it was a different version of the catalyst driver?
[01:32] <AaronMT> Hi, where to get hoary
[01:32] <CynepCupon> does PlayOnLInux help wine work better?
[01:32] <Belial> honestly, i couldn't tell you. i've only used wine.
[01:32] <CynepCupon> should i try a previous version of catalyst?
[01:32] <Belial> but i get about the same performance as i do in windows with my geforce gt420m
[01:32] <CynepCupon> or a different distro?
[01:32] <Belial> overall performance that is. there's some glitches here and there.
[01:32] <CynepCupon> <--- Luninux 12
[01:32] <CynepCupon> Pinguy OS 12.04 good?
[01:33] <Belial> they're all based on ubuntu.
[01:33] <Belial> so really, i don't see it changing anything for you.
[01:33] <CynepCupon> openSUSE perhaps?
[01:33] <CynepCupon> or even Fedora 17?
[01:33] <SIFTU> CynepCupon: if "lspci|grep -i vga" shows 2 cards (and you are on a laptop) then you have to do some work
[01:33] <Belial> i honestly don't think the answer is to switch distributions.
[01:33] <SIFTU> it used to be something like vgaswitcharoo
[01:33] <CynepCupon> SIFTU, how do i check that?
[01:34] <CynepCupon> type that in terminal?
[01:34] <SIFTU> CynepCupon: yeah
[01:34] <Belial> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
[01:34] <Belial> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0df1 (rev ff)
[01:34] <Belial> that's what mine returns. bumblebee works great for turning the nvidia card on/off.
[01:35] <Belial> but i don't think it works for ati.
[01:35] <Belial> or amd now, rather.
[01:35] <CynepCupon> SIFTU: two VGA compatible devices are listed
[01:35] <SIFTU> Belial: yours is optimus, and you would use bumblebee
[01:35] <Belial> right
[01:35] <SIFTU> CynepCupon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[01:35] <CynepCupon> thank you :D
[01:36] <SIFTU> CynepCupon: I dont have amd/ati so I havent used it before
[01:36] <CynepCupon> 0:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 9647
[01:36] <CynepCupon> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Whistler [AMD Radeon HD 6600M Series]
[01:36] <CynepCupon> = hybrid graphics
[01:37] <CynepCupon> ?
[01:37] <L3top> CynepCupon: you are going to have problems. Y
[01:37] <andrewx> apt-get install firefox, says there's no flash included, what should I go to properly install flash, please?
[01:37] <CynepCupon> so i bought a laptop that won't work?
[01:37] <Belial> CynepCupon, check the link SIFTU posted. that's a good starting point. and it seems simple enough.
[01:37] <CynepCupon> will do, thank you.
[01:37] <L3top> CynepCupon: for ati hybrid you need vgaswitcheroo which will not use fglrx.
[01:38] <Belial> oh damn.
[01:38] <SIFTU> yeah I steer away from ati
[01:38] <L3top> CynepCupon: hybrid is the problem. that includes nvidia's optimus SIFTU
[01:38] <SIFTU> they havent supported Linux well period
[01:38] <L3top> at all. Period.
[01:38] <Belial> amd?
[01:39] <Belial> i think amd helps out more than nvidia does on its opensource driver.
[01:39] <SIFTU> L3top: yeah optimus isnt great, but it works with bumbebee, and cuda etc
[01:39] <L3top> 0 linux support. The only options are third party guys trying to make them usable.
[01:39] <L3top> depends on the chipset SIFTU.
[01:39] <L3top> again... not supported by nVidia.
[01:40] <Belial> optimus runs pretty good here. but since it's running virtualgl the performance is down about 10fps average, sometimes more over going native.
[01:40] <SIFTU> no not supported by Nvidia.. but better than ATI
[01:40] <Belial> but it beats using the integrated card.
[01:40] <L3top> At all. Period. "We have no plans to support optimus on linux" -nVidia
[01:40] <Belial> there's a redhat kernel dev that's working on a better solution.
[01:41] <Belial> from what i understand.
[01:41] <SIFTU> L3top: thats true, but the commutity made it work with the nvidia drivers
[01:41] <L3top> Belial: SIFTU... optimus works with bumblebee about 70% of the time. It is totally hit or miss.
[01:41] <SIFTU> L3top: personally I would intel all the way
[01:41] <L3top> SIFTU: long live opensource community.
[01:41] <L3top> SIFTU: 100% agree
[01:42] <pooltable> when i restart my computer my home folder open up and the termimal open up how to stop thanks ??
[01:42] <smokie> anyone know how to echo the system time to a text file using bash by any chance?
[01:42] <escott> smokie, date > file
[01:43] <saustin> so my sound keeps going from normal, to occassionally robotic, to ocassionally not working
[01:43] <smokie> escott, i want it in a middle of a sentence, to say something like this "bash file has been executed last at 18:04:03 04/08/2012" for example
[01:43] <saustin> and I have to get lucky when "resetting" it, I try pulseaudio --kill
[01:44] <saustin> for instance, any ideas on what I can do to get it back?
[01:44] <escott> smokie, echo blah blah blah `date` blah > file
[01:44] <smokie> thanks dude
[01:44] <escott> smokie, or echo -n blah blah blah > file; date >> file; echo blah >> file
[01:44] <smODesigns> im having OD issues with setting up SMTP with comcast
[01:46] <SIFTU> smokie: the easier to read/bash way is echo "blah blah $(date)" > file
[01:47] <smokie> escott, one last thing, how can i make the bash file keep the data it added before and doesnt overwrite the previous data if you get what i mean?
[01:47] <smokie> SIFTU, thanks man, i took that down and will test it too
[01:47] <escott> smokie, >>  appends
[01:47] <SIFTU> smokie: >> will append
[01:48] <SIFTU> smokie: from the #bash bot --> The backquote (`) is used in the old-style command substitution, e.g. foo=`command`. The foo=$(command) syntax is recommended
[01:48] <SIFTU> instead. Backslash handling inside $() is less surprising, and $() is easier to nest. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/082
[01:49] <smokie> ah thanks for the heads up
[01:49] <escott> SIFTU, you are going to have to pry my backticks from my cold dead hands
[01:51] <guybrushsantiago> need help running libreoffice command as www-data (within apache2)
[01:52] <escott> guybrushsantiago, what?? why would you need to do that?
[01:53] <guybrushsantiago> escott: I need to generate a pdf file from a dynamically generated docx file within a Django application (talk about tough requirements)
[01:54] <guybrushsantiago> escott: libreoffice --headles more_stuff seems to do the trick, but I can't run it from my python app since it doesn't seem to have permissions
[01:54] <escott> guybrushsantiago, im sure there are other more appropriate (ie command line) applications that can do docx->pdf conversion
[01:54] <guybrushsantiago> escott: libreoffice is the only one that I've found that does good quality conversions
[01:55] <guybrushsantiago> and I'm using it command line
[01:55] <escott> guybrushsantiago, the permissions really shouldn't matter. unless apparmor or selinux are involved any application can run any binary
[01:55] <AaronMT> !hoary
[01:55] <AaronMT> Hi, where to get hoary
[01:55] <SIFTU> escott: lol I know
[01:55] <owler> Hello, I am trying to update my system and get this error: http://pastebin.com/SGhWb2yP
[01:56] <trism> owler: apt-get dist-upgrade; the vlc packages added a new dependency
[01:56] <guybrushsantiago> escott: it works within my django dev server, but when I try to run it in a real deployment environment (aka in apache) it doesn't work
[01:56] <guybrushsantiago> escott: and there seems to be other people with the same problem
[01:56] <escott> AaronMT, you stopped your time machine too late. hop back in it and move back to 2005
[01:56] <AaronMT> ?
[01:57] <owler> trism, Ahh thanks
[01:57] <escott> AaronMT, 5.04 is no longer supported
[01:57] <AaronMT> It works
[01:59] <escott> guybrushsantiago, can you run other binaries from django?
[01:59] <guybrushsantiago> escott: yes, just not that one
[02:00] <guybrushsantiago> escott:  and it returns ugly exit codes like 19712
[02:00] <escott> guybrushsantiago, does it work if you unset DISPLAY?
[02:00] <escott> guybrushsantiago, in the development environment that is
[02:00] <guybrushsantiago> escott: how do I do that?
[02:01] <CynepCupon> SIFTU: whats the command for checking VGA devices again?
[02:01] <CynepCupon> nevermind
[02:01] <L3top> CynepCupon: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[02:01] <guybrushsantiago> escott: just to clarify, both django server and apache are on the same machine (apache is a replica from my actual deployment server)
[02:01] <escott> guybrushsantiago, i dont know enough about your development environment. im just saying the possibilities are (a) environment is wrong for libre (b) apache is configured not to let you run the application. thats really it
[02:02] <escott> guybrushsantiago, one would think that libreoffice --headless would work even if X variables like $XAUTHORITY and $DISPLAY are unset, but perhaps its buggy
[02:05] <viat0r> got an airlink 101 awll5088
[02:05] <viat0r> iproblem is it sees the ssid
[02:05] <viat0r> but wont connect
[02:06] <viat0r> any ideas
[02:21] <TomM2> My sound on my ubuntu 10.10 system I am thinking this might be the problem but how do I fix it? http://pastie.org/4387213
[02:22] <rdvonz> So I have a user named john that owns a folder called 'movies', I want bob to also have access to these movies. First I run chgrp -R videos movies, then I run chmod g+rwx movies so that anyone in the group has the right to read/write/execute. This isn't working. What am I doing wrong?
[02:23] <rdvonz> *anyone in the videos group
[02:26] <rdvonz> ok wait I think I did it right.
[02:26] <escott> rdvonz, chmod also needs to be recursive. you might want to setgid on the folder
[02:27] <rdvonz> setgid?
[02:27] <kikupotter> z
[02:27] <escott> rdvonz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid
[02:28] <Petit_Dejeuner> Hey, does anyone know hot to turn the bell ('\a') on in ubuntu 12?
[02:28] <SIFTU> rdvonz: also check your "id" command to make sure you are a member of that group
[02:28] <escott> Petit_Dejeuner, its usually in the terminal preferences
[02:29] <SIFTU> Petit_Dejeuner: or "sudo modprobe -r pcspkr"
[02:29] <psychogenik> noob here everytime i reboot ubuntu wont boot unless i use the live usb
[02:29] <Petit_Dejeuner> escott, as in Terminal>Edit>Profile_Preferences>turn on the bell? cuse I did that
[02:29] <Petit_Dejeuner> SIFTU, trying that now
[02:29] <psychogenik> and its installed on my system
[02:30] <TomM2> My sound on my ubuntu 10.10 system I am thinking this might be the problem but how do I fix it? http://pastie.org/4387213
[02:30] <Petit_Dejeuner> SIFTU, no luck
[02:31] <Petit_Dejeuner> I've already removed it from the blacklist. I've checked alsamixer, nothing seams to work.
[02:31] <escott> Petit_Dejeuner, there might be a pulseaudio module for pc speaker emulation
[02:31] <Petit_Dejeuner> I know I have one.
[02:32] <Petit_Dejeuner> escott, will the bell still go off when I hit the \a character?
[02:32] <escott> Petit_Dejeuner, gnome-terminal can do visual bell, so im sure it knows how to talk to pulse and do an emulated bell
[02:33] <psychogenik> anyone know how to boot ubuntu on my system without the live usb?
[02:34] <Petit_Dejeuner> escott, should I restart?
[02:35] <escott> Petit_Dejeuner, i wouldnt think so. if you modprobed pcspkr then maybe jump to tty1 and try echo -e '\a'
[02:35] <Petit_Dejeuner> escott, it says it already has the newest version of the module
[02:35] <SIFTU> Petit_Dejeuner: weird, so "lsmod|grep pcs" doesnt show that module?
[02:35] <Petit_Dejeuner> it doesn't do anything
[02:35] <Petit_Dejeuner> not even with su
[02:36] <kikupotter> hello
[02:37] <johnnyonflame> Is there any way I can give an ad hoc device an IP in my local network?
[02:37] <johnnyonflame> It is connected into my desktop, which is connected by cable to the network
[02:37] <escott> !ics | johnnyonflame
[02:38] <Petit_Dejeuner> So I guess my bell is FUBAR?
[02:39] <roaet_> Using the terminal only, what is the best (read: easiest for a noob) way to connect to a VPN and hold that connection?
[02:40] <SIFTU> Petit_Dejeuner: maybe i mis understood you .. did you want it to work or not work?
[02:40] <Petit_Dejeuner> SIFTU, I want it to work.
[02:40] <SIFTU> Petit_Dejeuner: ahh.. ok well I got you to remove the pcskpr module.. you need that up "sudo modprobe pcspkr"
[02:42] <Petit_Dejeuner> SIFTU, Here's the results, http://pastie.org/4387309, the bell still doesn't work. :/
[02:42] <escott> roaet_, if you set up the connection in the gui you can enable it with nmcli
[02:43] <roaet_> escott: I don't have a gui :(
[02:44] <psychogenik> halp
[02:44] <roaet_> escott: connecting to a VPN without a gui has been a headache. I'm just hoping there is a console solution that isn't ridiculous.
[02:47] <Petit_Dejeuner> SIFTU, I might just install Fedora
[02:47] <Petit_Dejeuner> thanks anyway
[02:51] <YanGM> estou no live do elementary agora
[02:51] <YanGM> oops wrong channel
[02:54] <bonhoeffer> i just booted from a live cd and connected a usb drive, but i can't touch a file on it (say's it is read only)
[02:55] <bonhoeffer> are there any options? i think the usb disk is FAT
[02:56] <Auditor> bonhoeffer hi
[02:56] <bonhoeffer> hi
[02:56] <Auditor> bonhoeffer , try this
[02:56] <Auditor> open terminal
[02:56] <Auditor> and type
[02:57] <Auditor> oops
[02:57] <bonhoeffer> it is fat32 . . . label is efi
[02:57] <Auditor> have you booted from it
[02:57] <bonhoeffer> no -- i booted from a usb
[02:57] <bonhoeffer> i want to image my drive
[02:57] <bonhoeffer> via dd
[02:57] <Auditor> which drive
[02:57] <bonhoeffer> to the external hard drive (usb)
[02:57] <bonhoeffer> i lost a bunch of data -- and want a block level image
[02:58] <bonhoeffer> so i booted my mac from usb
[02:58] <__brian> hey L3top?
[02:58] <bonhoeffer> oh, wait there are two partitions -- 210 mb fat and 1000 GB HFS+
[02:58] <Auditor> Ok, you have a USB, EXTERNAL  and the HARD  disk tell me exactly which contain ubuntu, and what runs
[02:59] <kaushal> Hi
[02:59] <Auditor> bonhoeffer, ?
[02:59] <Auditor> hai kaushal
[02:59] <bonhoeffer> Auditor, usb small drive has ubuntu -- running live version, computer has ata drive (250 GB), and usb drive 1 TB is connected
[02:59] <bonhoeffer> i want to image 250GB ATA drive onto 1TB usb drive via dd
[02:59] <kaushal> Auditor: hi
[02:59] <bonhoeffer> but 1TB (/media/Martin) is read only
[03:00] <Auditor> ok
[03:00] <kaushal> when i put down the laptop running ubuntu 11.10, does it hibernate or suspend by default?
[03:00] <bonhoeffer> so drive A is 4GB usb drive with ubuntu, drive B is system ATA drive with OSX, and drive C is 1TB HFS+ drive
[03:00] <kaushal> meaning put the lid down
[03:00] <bonhoeffer> I want to image B and save it on C
[03:00] <Auditor> in terminal try ,  sudo chmod 777 -R /media/<name of 1Tb>
 ^
[03:01] <bonhoeffer> ok -- seems safe enough
[03:01] <jafer> Guys
[03:01] <jafer> I need help
[03:01] <bonhoeffer> hmm. . . owner is 99
[03:01] <bonhoeffer> for /media/Martin
[03:01] <jafer> I followed the tutorial at http://www.googlehammer.com
[03:01] <jafer> and it isn't working
 Right click the battery icon on top of the screen and take power settings and adjust it there
[03:01] <jafer> I'm running Lubuntu 12.04
[03:01] <jafer> Would appreciate if someone could help :)
 ? what
 tell me
[03:02] <bonhoeffer> how do i find the space on /media/Martin -- i thought du did that
[03:03] <jafer> Auditor
[03:03] <kaushal> Auditor: thanks
[03:03] <jafer> @Auditor:  I followed the tutorial at http://www.googlehammer.com
[03:03] <kaushal> Auditor: which option is better?
[03:03] <jafer> There's only one tutorial
[03:03] <kaushal> suspend or hibernate?
 run  ls -l -a -h   to see size of files and folders in current dir
 when on batry, suspend, when on power DO NOTHING
[03:04] <bonhoeffer> Auditor: even after i did the chmod to 777, i still can't touch test.txt
[03:04] <bonhoeffer> in /media/Martin
[03:04] <kaushal> Auditor: ok
 tell me what its about
[03:05] <kaushal> Auditor: is suspend better than hibernate?
[03:05] <Auditor> ^ yep
[03:05] <jafer> It's not "better"
[03:05] <jafer> Unless by better you mean faster and more compact
[03:05] <kaushal> i know suspend is to RAM and hibernate to DISK
 yes, hibernate only when power very low
[03:06] <kaushal> jafer: am i understanding it correctly?
[03:06] <kaushal> suspend is to ram and hibernate to disk
[03:06] <jafer> Yeah Kaushal
 does it have any data in it 1TB
 please tell me what you are trying to do and what the issue is
[03:07] <kaushal> jafer: so choose suspend?
[03:07] <jafer> Auditor, I solved the problem
[03:07] <jafer> Kaushal, I prefer suspend
[03:07] <Auditor> :)
[03:07] <Auditor> k
[03:07] <jafer> But for longer amounts of times, i use hibernate
[03:07] <kaushal> Auditor: choose suspend or hibernate?
[03:07] <Auditor> Suspend when on batry
[03:07] <Auditor> Do nothing when on AC
[03:08] <Auditor> Hibernate when bat low
[03:08] <bonhoeffer> Auditor -- i think the issue is that this is an HFS+ partition
 if you dont have any data in it, format it
[03:10] <kaushal> so if battery is drained completely, data is intact in suspend or hibernate?
[03:10] <Auditor> Hibernate
[03:10] <Auditor> suspend will still use power, hibernate wont
[03:11] <kaushal> Auditor: ok
[03:13] <kaushal> Auditor: Thanks a lot
[03:13] <kaushal> Auditor: i prefer hibernate over suspend
[03:13] <kaushal> since my data is intact
[03:14] <kaushal> i know hibernate is slow compared to suspend
[03:14] <zykotick9> pm-hibernate ftw, it's an uptime cheat as well - my netbook at 70 days is my only 100% uptime machine ;)
[03:14] <kaushal> since its on DISK and suspend is fast since it is on RAM
[03:14] <kaushal> Auditor: am i understanding it correctly?
[03:14] <Auditor> Hibernate only when bat is too low to go on
[03:15] <Auditor> Suspen when lid closes
[03:15] <kaushal> Auditor: but suspend will use battery power?
[03:15] <Auditor> if u suspend when bat low it will turn off after some time an dyou will loose all data
[03:16] <Auditor> yes as long as you hav bat power when you close lid its fine
[03:16] <kaushal> Auditor: yes
[03:16] <kaushal> Auditor: ok
[03:16] <kaushal> How long does the battery power stays in suspend mode?
[03:16] <kaushal> is there a way to measure?
[03:17] <Auditor> It will stay about 60% longer
[03:17] <Auditor> than the remaining time
[03:17] <Auditor> APROX*
[03:17] <bonhoeffer> anyone know how to install hfsprogs on latest ubuntu
[03:17] <bonhoeffer> sudo apt-get install hfsprogs won't find it
[03:18] <kaushal> Auditor: ok
[03:18] <Auditor> 1hour backup can take you to some 1hr50min
[03:18] <bonhoeffer> 12.04
 yep hfsprogs
[03:20] <zykotick9> !info hfsprogs | bonhoeffer
[03:21] <Auditor> sudo apt-get install hfsprogs
[03:23] <bonhoeffer> zykotick9: do i need to add a special source
[03:23] <bonhoeffer> it is unable to locate the package (off of live cd)
[03:23] <guest-B6grnG> I cant get my speakers to work with ubuntu :(
[03:23] <zykotick9> bonhoeffer: no.  it's in default repo.  something is wrong if you can't install it using regular means.
[03:23] <bonhoeffer> ah . . .
 means, what are you using, laptop, desktop, external ointernal
  make sure you dont have any previous failed installs use apt-get -f install
[03:26] <bonhoeffer> how do i see if that is installed
[03:27] <coon> hello
[03:27] <Auditor> hai coon
[03:27] <coon> thought i was the only one here nothing being typed
 check the software centre, or just check if the respective commands work
 thats coz u just came in
 1467 users here
[03:28] <coon> can you help me with a little thing having trouble with
[03:29] <zykotick9> Auditor: well... logged in... here, probably not really that many ;) </OT>
[03:29] <coon> somewhat of a minor problem
[03:29] <Auditor> :)
[03:29] <zykotick9> coon: describe your issues in 1 line please.
[03:30] <coon> just bought a cannon printer and wont work on ubuntu
[03:30] <zykotick9> !details | coon which model of canon printer?
 you will have to install the driver
[03:30] <IdleOne> coon: return it and get a HP printer is the best advice I can give you.
[03:30] <TomM2> My sound on my ubuntu 10.10 system I am thinking this might be the problem but how do I fix it? http://pastie.org/4387213
[03:31] <TomM2> I have asked the same question 3 times.
[03:31] <IdleOne> coon: Canon printers rarely work on linux.
[03:31] <TomM2> Why am I being ignored?
 you have to upgrade your pulse audio driver,
[03:31] <coon> that is what i have noticed
[03:31] <TomM2> Auditor, I didn't say that?
[03:31] <coon> there is no drivers
[03:31] <TomM2> o.o
[03:31]  * TomM2 scared
[03:32] <zykotick9> !10.10 | TomM2
[03:32] <coon> propietary drivers
 yes buddy tell me
[03:32] <TomM2> Thanks.
[03:32] <coon> none
[03:32] <IdleOne> coon: Seriously, save yourself the time and headache.
 yep its a bit of headache but you can get it working
[03:32] <coon> that would be killer
[03:32] <Auditor> just connect it and then check the restricted drivers in system> administration
[03:33] <coon> tried that
[03:33] <coon> no luck
[03:33] <TomM2> So 10.10 = borked?
[03:34] <zykotick9> TomM2: basically.  upgrade to something supported.  see "/msg ubottu eol" for details how (i've never had to)
[03:34] <IdleOne> coon: I stopped buying Canon printers 6 years ago. Canon does not provide any support for linux.
[03:34] <TomM2> 11.04?
[03:34] <coon> im starting to find that out lol
[03:34] <TomM2> I tried to get to 12.04 but it broken.
[03:34] <coon> tried alot and figured i would try here
[03:34] <TomM2> Like it got stuck on some text on bootup.
[03:35] <coon> it is a good printer and luckily im dual booted
 its still under extream testing
[03:35] <TomM2> What is?
[03:35] <TomM2> 12.04?
[03:35] <coon> got windows (@#$$) on other hd so just a headache switching over
[03:35] <Auditor> yep
[03:35] <IdleOne> Auditor: If you don't know what you are talking about, please don't spread FUD
[03:35] <TomM2> When are we expecting 12.10?
[03:35] <coon> what about setting up a vm
[03:36] <IdleOne> !virtualbox | coon
 what ?
[03:36] <coon> would i be able to use the printer doing that?
[03:36] <IdleOne> Auditor: 12.04 is stable and not "under extreme testing"
[03:37] <TomM2> I'm just going to put this out here, Will 20.04 use unity or some even more stupid gui.
[03:37] <TomM2> <3 Ubuntu Classic
[03:37] <coon> im still running 10.10
[03:37] <TomM2> coon, I am running it atm.
[03:38] <TomM2> But it seems it's dead now.
[03:38] <TomM2> R.I.P 10.10
 its is not stable enough to be compared to 10.04. There are multiple system errors happening continuously
[03:38] <TomM2> I tried Linux Mint today.
[03:38] <TomM2> And.
 the official go is stable i know, but it has to mature a lot again
[03:38] <Costeelation> ?
[03:38] <anonbit> Anybody on here capable of lending a hand with configuring a torrent client to work through vpn?
[03:38] <TomM2> It was the stupidest distro I ever tried.
[03:39] <Costeelation> maybe
[03:39] <TomM2> ubuntu4ever...
[03:39] <TomM2> Ubuntu = meth for me.
[03:40] <anonbit> I was using transmission on 11 and after running updates all trackers were reporting a time out connection error.
[03:40] <TomM2> That meant I'm addicted to Ubuntu to all of the people that want to know.
[03:40] <anonbit> Tried release 12 and tried changing to Deluge, same problem.
[03:40] <TomM2> anonbit, Use private proxy?
[03:46] <bonhoeffer> what can i format on a mac that will be usable by ubuntu
[03:46] <bonhoeffer> fat 32 can't store the file size -- hfs doesn't give me write permissions
[03:46] <bonhoeffer> i have to work with a live cd, that is all i have to boot the drive
[03:48] <Dayofswords> bonhoeffer: doesn't mac have at least ext3 support?
[03:48] <bonhoeffer> yes, but i can't use their disk utility for anything but hfs+ and fat
[03:48] <bonhoeffer> (as far as i can tell)
[03:49] <bharath> I have downloaded wubi.exe and ubuntu-11.10.tar.gz , and now how can I install ubuntu no with this files
[03:49] <bharath> I have downloaded wubi.exe and ubuntu-11.10.tar.gz , and now how can I install ubuntu with this files?
[03:50] <bonhoeffer> i can't format in ubuntu
[03:50] <bonhoeffer> it says the disk is busy
[03:50] <bonhoeffer> but no applications have the disk open
[03:51] <princej88> hey guys, anyone know of a good usenet client to run on ubuntu server?
[03:51] <Dayofswords> bharath: ubuntu-11.10.tar.gz? normally you download the ISO, extract or burn to CD and use wubi.exe from in there
[03:52] <bharath> Dayofswords: I mean ubuntu-11.10-wubi-i386.tar.xz
[03:52] <darkevil011> Hi
[03:52] <zykotick9> !info nn | princej88 if you're use terminal you could try this.  i haven't used usenet in years, and have never used nn - but it sounds promising ;)
[03:53] <darkevil011> Need some help with my pptp server, it connects fine, but after the first user disconnects, it won't reconnect until you reboot…. anywhere I can look for answers? Nothing in logs
[03:53] <Dayofswords> bharath: still wierd way to do it.
[03:53] <princej88> Thanks for the help.
[03:53] <princej88> will try it out
[03:57] <naboo> !xdm
[04:04] <darkevil011> Need some help with my pptp server, it connects fine, but after the first user disconnects, it won't reconnect until you reboot…. anywhere I can look for answers? Nothing in logs
[04:07] <crisconect> hello can someone help me find a channel in Portuguese Brazil
[04:07] <cloudgeek> how we can access the sort cuts above the tray of on the right topmost part of the desktop
[04:08] <Sazpaimon_> crisconect, #ubuntu-br
[04:08] <cloudgeek> like if wanna to connect any network or want ehnace the sound
[04:08] <cloudgeek> or wanna to read any chat msg
[04:09] <bharath> Dayofswords: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1866072
[04:10] <crisconect> obrigado
[04:10] <cloudgeek> can anybody would like tell me any app for grmmaer correction there
[04:10] <cloudgeek> any one command line or Gui based
[04:11] <Dayofswords> bharath: so you figured it out then?
[04:12] <bharath> Dayofswords: yeah I searched now about how to use ubuntu-11.10-wubi.tar.xz
[04:12] <Dacvak> Hi guys
[04:13] <Dacvak> I come to you as a desperate attempt. I don't even have an Ubuntu problem, but a Windows problem. Sadly, no one has been able to help.
[04:13] <Dacvak> Does anyone think they might be able to offer me assistance?
[04:14] <vvpalin> what kind of problem?
[04:14] <Random832> Dacvak: well, regardless, no-one can help if you don't say what your problem _is_
[04:14] <Random832> !ask
[04:15] <Dacvak> I've got some 3rd party Xbox 360 controllers - Madcatz fight pad, Hori Real Arcade Pro EX - these are all listed as plug-and-play devices for Windows 7 64 (Ultimate), which I'm running.
[04:15] <Dacvak> However, they do not automatically install the drivers.
[04:15] <Dacvak> They do on every other Windows 7 computer I've tested, but not on the one I've got right now.
[04:15] <Random832> Dacvak: can you install it manually? what if you plug in a real 360 controller first?
[04:16] <cloudgeek> can anybody help me how to improve communication and english writing skills , i often have a bad over both of these
[04:16] <Dacvak> Real Xbox 360 controllers work fine - they use a different driver.
[04:16] <Dacvak> I'd just use my real 360 controller, but sadly I have leukemia, and after 4 rounds of chemo, I no longer have strong fingernails. They bleed with a normal controller. That means I need something like a fight stick in order to play games without putting stress on my thumbs.
[04:24] <BUSTACAP> Is there a reason why "nc -v -l -p 1337" no longer will work?
[04:24] <coon> later all and thanks for the help
[04:24] <Sinusoidal> Im getting a notification telling me something went wrong and to run PACKAGE MANAGER from the right click menu, Im not sure what its talking about. Can someone help?
[04:24] <Sinusoidal> Is package manager ubuntu software center?
[04:25] <BUSTACAP> Sinusoidal, yes
[04:25] <BUSTACAP> Sinusoidal, I think.
[04:25] <vvpalin> BUSTACAP, nc -lp 9999 works fine
[04:25] <Sinusoidal> is that just a GUI for apt?
[04:26] <BUSTACAP> vvpalin, Not for me.
[04:26] <zasdman> Anyone willing to help me get Ubuntu installed... I have tried every version of Linux I could and nothing wants to install on my computer.... live cd's will not even run :(
[04:27] <BUSTACAP> This is nc from the netcat-openbsd package. An alternative nc is available
[04:27] <BUSTACAP> in the netcat-traditional package.
[04:27] <vvpalin> BUSTACAP, your netpussy is defective then, try another
[04:28] <BUSTACAP> vvpalin, How so?
[04:29] <vvpalin> i dunno but it works fine for me, and its the same on every version ive ever tried so ....
[04:32] <maicod> hi if I check with fdisk that my last partition ends at block 29744. With dd what blocksize and count do I need to backup the sdcard up to that point ?
[04:33] <zasdman> Any help...? Can't get Ubuntu to install on ASRock Fatal1ty 990fx Pro, AMD FX 8150, 16gb ram, 2x 128 SSD in raid 0....
[04:38] <sn131678> what was that
[04:40] <j_ayen_green> I have a 'php' file in /etc/apt/preferences.d (on 10.04) with everything pinned to Karmic, because I was running 5.2.  I want to upgrade to 5.3.  Can I just add an extension to the file name, or do I need to remove it? I'm assuming if it's not found, an apt-get update will replace 5.2 with 5.3
[04:51] <emman> hi anyone can lend a hand with conky
[04:53] <emman> anyone good with conky?
[05:00] <emile_> hi all, I'm getting the same issue that exists in this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1464642
[05:01] <emile_> unfortunately, it's on lubuntu so I do not know if anyone can help out - I have also asked on #lubuntu, but I think people may be asleep
[05:01] <emile_> scratch that, someone seems to be awake
[05:03] <goddard> i just stumbled onto a great email client Sylpheed..has anyone else tried it?
[05:31] <grooves> Hi folks
[05:31] <goddard> its dead in here
[05:31] <goddard> anyone know how I can start chromium on the command line
[05:32] <grooves> how to disabled the hotkey alt + rmb on ubuntu 12.04? alt + rmb = move window
[05:32] <ito> goodard: chromium-browser
[05:32] <ito> goddard: chromium-browser
[05:33] <goddard> actually how do i launch the default browser from the command line
[05:34] <grooves> how to disabled the hotkey alt + rmb on ubuntu 12.04? alt + rmb = move window
[05:34] <CandyRaver> does anyone know where to find the #anonymous channel?
[05:34] <theadmin> Um, I have a problem with the "icedtea-6-plugin" package. Chrome complains it's out of date, and even if I click "Run this time", it says it can't load it.
[05:43] <Maiz_en_Heces> Some of you people are just fucking sick!
[05:43] <Maiz_en_Heces> http://pastebin.com/aacTUjjb
[05:44] <grooves> How to disable the alt + rmb on ubuntu? this key move the window.
[05:44] <Sinusoidal> guys my Steam (running from wine) isn't responding and when I kill it the system tray menu it popped up wont disappear, how can I make it go away?
[05:46] <theadmin> Sinusoidal: Open a terminal, run "wineboot -k"
[05:46] <grooves> How to disable the alt + rmb on ubuntu? this key move the window.
[05:46] <theadmin> !patience | grooves
[05:48] <Sinusoidal> that doesnt make the menu disappear, theadmin
[05:49] <theadmin> Hm... I wonder...
[05:50] <theadmin> Sinusoidal: Run "pgrep Steam", I want to see if the process is still hanging :/
[05:51] <Sinusoidal> pgprep doesnt exist
[05:51] <theadmin> Sinusoidal: You have an extra p :/
[05:52] <Sinusoidal> im pretty sure the process is gone
[05:52] <Sinusoidal> oh ok there we go
[05:52] <Sinusoidal> 16154
[05:52] <Sinusoidal> thats the output
[05:52] <theadmin> Sinusoidal: Cool, so it's still hanging, do a "kill -SEGV 16154"
[05:53] <Sinusoidal> YES
[05:53] <Sinusoidal> thank you!
[05:53] <Sinusoidal> if you dont mind me asking, what does pgrep do
[05:53] <theadmin> Sinusoidal: Search for a process ID by name (or part of name)
[05:54] <Sinusoidal> good to know! thanks again
[05:59] <cors> i get jagged/blocky performance running videos in my tile-based WM, but in GNOME3 the videos are smooth. is there some daemon that i'm not running that GNOME3 runs automatically?
[06:01] <theadmin> cors: GNOME does not run any "daemons", no. Though that doesn't help.
[06:04] <AZkenny> I need help creating a virtual floppy drive in Ubuntu 10.04.
[06:05] <cors> theadmin: any idea why it's better in GNOME?
[06:06] <theadmin> cors: Nope
[06:08] <cors> theadmin: is there any services that are necessary to run for opengl/3d acceleration?
[06:08] <theadmin> cors: Uh, no. Only your video driver, but that's a module.
[06:08] <iToast> Hey I need help with backing up my ubuntu box (its running server 10.4)
[06:08] <iToast> Anyone got a suggestion OTHER then rsync...?
[06:09] <iToast> I'm yet to find any solution that will letme do a full incremental backup, that includes EVERYTHING, like a bootloader...
[06:09] <cors> ah ok, well it's running the same module so it's really quite strange.
[06:09] <iToast> >_<
[06:12] <Maiz_en_Heces> is it okay to talk about diarrhea in here?
[06:12] <Maiz_en_Heces> if it relates to open source ubuntu applications
[06:12] <Maiz_en_Heces> for diarrhea analysis?
[06:12] <theadmin> Maiz_en_Heces: If the app is in the Ubuntu repos, and you need support for that app, I guess yes.
[06:13] <chenhangwei> nick "Budd"
[06:13] <Maiz_en_Heces> theadmin  how do I get diarrhea splash connoisseur into the repository?
[06:13] <Maiz_en_Heces> it is a program that analyzes a pic of the diarrhea
[06:13] <Maiz_en_Heces> and suggests recipes
[06:13] <Maiz_en_Heces> and sexual acts
[06:14] <theadmin> Maiz_en_Heces: Uh, if it's not currently in the official repositories we can't support it. You just said it's not, from what I understand.
[06:14] <Maiz_en_Heces> no... I am the devolper
[06:14] <mi3> hello guys I use rp-pppoe package to connect to the internet, when I start my internet connection, my conky window shows multiple gateways instead of only 1 gateway, I had made /etc/resolv.conf read only, and for connecting to the internet, my ISP requires me to use username, servicename, and password, any clues as to why I might be getting multiple gateways ? and 1 more thing, after a few minutes, the gateway becomes 192.168.1.1 and the internet connection dis
[06:14] <mi3> connects.
[06:14] <Maiz_en_Heces> and I want to add it to the repository
[06:14] <Maiz_en_Heces> the app works like this
[06:14] <Maiz_en_Heces> you take a plastic sheet
[06:14] <Maiz_en_Heces> and you spray your diarrhea all over it
[06:14] <Maiz_en_Heces> then you take a pic
[06:14] <Maiz_en_Heces> and then you load it into the program
[06:14] <theadmin> Maiz_en_Heces: Well, we don't care how the app works
[06:15] <Maiz_en_Heces> it then generates ideas on how you can prepare it for human consumption
[06:15] <Maiz_en_Heces> so how do I add it to the repo?
[06:15] <Maiz_en_Heces> or how are apps added to the repo?
[06:16] <theadmin> Maiz_en_Heces: Development questions are for #ubuntu-devel, but generally you can create your own repo (a ppa) at Launchpad
[06:16] <Maiz_en_Heces> now I swear that I am not a pervert or a racist
[06:16] <Maiz_en_Heces> this is an honest question
[06:16] <chenhangwei> ok
[06:16] <Maiz_en_Heces> I mean I would never suggest that this would be cannibalism from melting niggers or anything like that
[06:16] <Maiz_en_Heces> ah okay
[06:16] <Maiz_en_Heces> I will take this diarrheal ap question into #ubuntu-devel
[06:16] <Maiz_en_Heces> thanks
[06:19] <theadmin> mi3: You can (and probably should) use either NetworkManager or the "pppoeconf" utility (both come preinstalled in the default Ubuntu setup) to configure a PPPoE connection.
[06:21] <pragmaticenigma> howdy everyone
[06:23] <pragmaticenigma> Does anyone have a good source for setting up VNCserver to start a user session on boot?
[06:24] <theadmin> pragmaticenigma: Why not configure autologin instead? Always look for simplier solutions ;) Or that won't do?
[06:25] <pragmaticenigma> It won't do in this case... I have MythTV (separate user account) setup to auto login, but I would like my user account to auto start a VNCServer session on boot.
[06:26] <pragmaticenigma> I access my personal user account via my laptop... I already have the configuration setup in my user space for Xvncserver.... now I just need something that will start it on boot, so I don't have to manually start it each time I reboot
[06:27] <theadmin> pragmaticenigma: Hm... add "@reboot your_vnc_command" to your user's crontab?
[06:28] <pragmaticenigma> that might work... will that give a full session? Currently, depending on how I execute my vnc start command, I either get flawless experience, or lots of trouble when it comes to running admin tasks like using synaptic
[06:29] <pragmaticenigma> for instance, if I jump to one of the local VTs and start, leaving the VT logged in, I can launch synaptic without issue and it will auto prompt me for a password... otherwise, I have to launch synaptic from a terminal inside my vnc session and execute the synaptic program with gksudo
[06:29] <theadmin> pragmaticenigma: I have no idea, the only means of remote access I'm really familiar with are TeamViewer and SSH, I'm just talking from the idea of "starting a process at boot" to be honest
[06:33] <pragmaticenigma> yeah, that's essentially what I want to do... if teamviewer was a little more point-to-point I'd use it
[06:33] <pragmaticenigma> but I don't want 3rd party interaction with my machine
[06:35] <pragmaticenigma> perhaps I will need to do some more digging ... I appreciate the help, I like the tip and I'll give it a try theadmin
[06:46] <j2shar> Hi,everybody :) mouse programming in windows  requires <dos.h> what about linux ???
[06:47] <xeneth> in Ubuntu, is the adm group equel to the classic wheel group of unix?
[06:48] <bobbyd> j2shar, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-kernel-70/kernel-beep-manipulation-605355/#post2985230
[06:48] <bobbyd> j2bv16_, what are you trying to do though?
[06:49] <j2shar> I was trying just a paint application in windows
[06:52] <j2shar> it was nice so now trying to make it in linux
[06:52] <douglas> good night
[06:53] <douglas> brazil
[06:54] <chroot_> hi, how can i select the prefer mirror in ubutnu 12.04 server?
[06:55] <chroot_> i found use the standerd ubuntu mirror is a little slow when updating
[06:55] <llutz_> chroot_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and set your prefered mirror
[06:56] <Nicekiwi> anyone know if rekong has a PPA or .deb for its latest stable release?
[06:57] <Nicekiwi> rekonq*
[06:57] <llutz_> Nicekiwi: yoann laissus has one (rekonq-stable)
[06:57] <chroot_> llutz_: i know it is edit the sources.list file, but i want to set the http://ftp.sjtu.edu.cn/ubutnu precise main to be my main mirror
[06:58] <Nicekiwi> llutz_: thats a daily release isent it?
[06:58] <chroot_> llutz_: and there are many lines in that file
[06:58] <llutz_> Nicekiwi: nope he has both, stable  nightly
[06:59] <llutz_> chroot_: so replace all lines containing the slow mirror with your new mirror (sed, perl can do it for you)
[07:00] <Nicekiwi> llutz_: can you link me? all the ppa's form him i can find that have the 1.0 release are daily builds
[07:00] <chroot_> oh, I understand, thank you very much.
[07:02] <llutz_> Nicekiwi: hmm, didnt he update his stable to 1.0? sry i haven't used that for a long time and no www-access now to recheck
[07:02] <Nicekiwi> llutz_: no :( stable PPA is 0.7
[07:02] <llutz_> Nicekiwi: oops, sry then i dont know any ppa
[07:02] <Nicekiwi> llutz_: lame, thanks anyways
[07:09] <helpme5> anyone in here ?
[07:09] <babacool> hi everyone, could anyone help me correctly configure an openvpn server on ubuntu sever installed in amazon ec2? Or maybe refer me to a better channel?
[07:12] <iToast_> hi
[07:14] <engabmc> hl0o0o
[07:15] <nkn_> hai
[07:15] <engabmc> i need help :)
[07:19] <nkn_> hallo
[07:19] <helpme5> i
[07:20] <helpme5> ghi
[07:20] <fairuz_> Hi, I want to change my grub boot order, but I don't have  /boot/grub/menu.lst. Is there any other file?
[07:20] <llutz_> fairuz_: edit /etc/default/grub, set the DEFAULT value and run "sudo update-grub" then.
[07:21] <fairuz_> llutz_ ok thanks
[07:21] <des|2> what command will show info about distro?
[07:21] <llutz_> des|2: lsb_release -a
[07:22] <auronandace> fairuz: menu.lst is from grub legacy, ubuntu has been using grub2 since 2009
[07:22] <des|2> llutz: on LiveCD
[07:22] <fairuz_> llutz_ : umm where I can find the list? To know which number I want to put
[07:22] <fairuz_> I can reboot and found out, but there is surely a file
[07:22] <llutz_> fairuz_: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:22] <fairuz_> llutz_ thanks
[07:23] <llutz_> fairuz_: grep menuent /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:23] <BUSTACAP> I'm having trouble installing the nessus .deb file I downloaded for the correct version of my ubuntu. The bar gets almost to the end and just randomly stops. Can anyone help get this installed?
[07:23] <des|2> i remember just that there is a short command to show info
[07:23] <des|2> lsb_release don't work
[07:23] <fairuz_> llutz_: I assume the order they come out is the order number?
[07:24] <llutz_> fairuz_: yes, starting with 0
[07:24] <fairuz_> llutz_ ok
[07:24] <auronandace> des|2: uname -a?
[07:25] <fairuz_> auronandace: that's for kernel versin + arch iirc
[07:25] <fairuz_> *version
[07:25] <des|2> auronandace: yes, that's it, thanx!
[07:25] <fairuz_> not distro info
[07:25] <auronandace> fairuz: i know
[07:25] <llutz_> fairuz_: correct answer to wrong question :)
[07:25] <fairuz_> :)
[07:26] <des|2> umm
[07:26] <des|2> it shows only kernel info
[07:26] <fairuz_> Well...
[07:27] <des|2> i can't get info about version of ubuntu on LiveCD
[07:27] <ripps> is it possible to force a package to install even if a dependency is missing?
[07:28] <des|2> oh
[07:28] <des|2> lsb_release worked
[07:28] <chu> Bugger.
[07:29] <llutz_> ripps: there is, but you don't want to break your system that way. "man apt-get" look for "--force-yes"
[07:30] <ripps> llutz_: well, it's because the nvida-driver won't install in quantal, and nouveau doesn't work for my card
[07:31] <llutz_> ripps: quantal support in #ubuntu+1, not here
[07:31] <ripps> llutz_: that'd be great, if someone was there
[07:31] <llutz_> still, not here
[07:37] <dontknow> do flash still need more performance on 64 bit?
[07:38] <szal> more performance than what?
[07:38] <dontknow> i mean does it use more cpu on 64 bit?
[07:39] <dontknow> szal, than 32bit
[07:42] <dontknow> 64 bit ubuntu more secure than 32 bit?
[07:42] <llutz_> dontknow: why should it?
[07:44] <defnordic_> hi, I tried to upgrade a machine (server) from 10.04 to 11.04 via do-release-upgrade as per the ubuntu homepage... but I have unresolved errors in linux-image-2.6.35-32-generic, linux-image-generic and linux-generic ...
[07:44] <nibbler__> dontknow, security should be equal
[07:46] <dontknow> nibbler__, are you sure?
[07:46] <nibbler__> dontknow, yes
[07:46] <dontknow> ok
[07:47] <Qantourisc_remot> Ubuntu connection manager nm-openvpn-service-open-helper fails because "did not receiver a valid IP4 Address from openvpn"
[07:47] <trijntje> defnordic_: do you mean upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 or from 10.04 to 12.04?
[07:48] <nibbler__> dontknow, security depends on methodology and avoiding software bugs, while the software sometimes might have minor tweaks for 32/64 bit stuff its not more likely for those to break than for 32bit, for the methodology the software uses it should be equal
[07:48] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, i doubt its a nm problem, sounds more like openvpn problem, openvpn-server problem even?
[07:49] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, did you try to connect manually, by calling "openvpn foo.conf" in the commandline?
[07:53] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: i'll make a custom config
[07:53] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: but i'd be supporised !
[07:53] <altan> hi
[07:53] <altan> ubuntu people
[07:53] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, if it worked, or if it did not work?
[07:54] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, i guess it won't work, thats why i assume its a server/config error
[07:54] <altan> what are some good stress testers for ubuntu, what im looking for is a good gpu tester
[07:54] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: i'll check, it's a fair thing to ask
[07:58] <tsolox> i'm configuring an ubuntu box..`ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.3; route add default gw 192.168.0.1`  my usual routine in the past that works.. but this time `ping 192.168.0.1` cannot ping
[08:01] <llutz_> tsolox: try "sudo service network-manager stop; sudo ifconfig eth0 up" before
[08:02] <altan> anyone know any good stress testers?
[08:04] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: i'm sorry it works like a charm ...
[08:04] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: so any idea why gnome screws up ?
[08:05] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: hmmm maybe a timeout ? maybe it's not waiting long enough on the dhcp server ?
[08:06] <KenjaminK> Hi, is there anyone who can help me out with a driver installation? I have a thread on the ubuntu forums, but I haven't gotten a response and I kind of want to get this done tonight.
[08:06] <tsolox> llutz_: 'network manager: unrecg servec"
[08:06] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, strange.... i'd suggest to use gopenvpn as a workaround - it uses the openvpn configuration directly but allows to start this via a click in the gui. its can also handle multiple openvpn connections simultaniously
[08:06] <tsolox> i'm pure commondlani
[08:06] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: hmm thanks for the tim
[08:06] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, besides that, anything more than the missing ip in /var/log/syslog?
[08:06] <Qantourisc_remot> *tip
[08:07] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: i had to run it using --debug from nm-helper
[08:07] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: but other then the hlelper quited with error code 2 no
[08:07] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, /var/log/syslog?
[08:08] <dontknow> considering 64 bit, ASLR, Nxbit, PIC make sense to you?
[08:08] <dontknow> i am asking 64 bit ubuntu is more secure than 32 bit?
[08:08] <linuxuz3r_> hi
[08:09] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__:  let see: a warn on could not determine devide driver, a warn VPL plugin failed 2  mwea tomutch to type, shall i paste the log somwhere ?
[08:13] <dontknow> does anyone really know which one is more secure, 64bit or 32bit?
[08:14] <Qantourisc_remot> dontknow: i'm quessing 32bit, since a lot have been ported to 64bit and potentially introduced bugs
[08:15] <bobbyd> dontknow, nothing is secure. What are you going to be doing with it?
[08:16] <dontknow> dude i want to install more secure one
[08:16] <compdoc> 64bit has been around a while, thanks to AMD. Its faster, and runs perfectly
[08:16] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, or ported fixing bugs...
[08:16] <Qantourisc_remot> dontknow: unless ofcours, your package was written in 64bit :p
[08:17] <bobbyd> dontknow, if your computer is 64bit, install 64bit...
[08:17] <Qantourisc_remot> dontknow: but if you want secure, there are better thing to worry about then 32bit/64bit
[08:17] <nibbler__> dontknow, if security has this high priority, maybe don't go ubuntu at all
[08:17] <Qantourisc_remot> dontknow:  think selinux and alike
[08:17] <bobbyd> dontknow, is this for your own workstation? Or for a server on the internet?
[08:18] <dontknow> bobbyd, for daily use!
[08:18] <dontknow> Qantourisc_remot, not necessary lol
[08:18] <dontknow> i have just read 64 bit has flash performance issues
[08:18] <Qantourisc_remot> dontknow: you want max security, you don't need selinux, but you worry about 64/32 bit ?
[08:19] <subdesign> hey all, i have a windows ntfs partition, i want to resize it so the half of it should be ext4, is it easy to do? and what app recommended?
[08:19] <llutz_> .. and care about flash.... dontknow pls take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <bobbyd> dontknow, install 64bit and then go for a walk.
[08:19] <bobbyd> 64 bit s the most secure by far
[08:20] <compdoc> subdesign, defrag the partition using windows if possible, and use gparted to resize
[08:20] <dontknow> Qantourisc_remot, it is not like worrying about. just want to install more secure architecture
[08:20] <dontknow> bobbyd, why is it more secure?
[08:20] <subdesign> compdoc, thanks , defrag is recommended?
[08:20] <subdesign> or a must?
[08:20] <bobbyd> dontknow, because of the spintronic interfaces between the 64 bits.
[08:20] <compdoc> subdesign, not a must - just seen articles recommending it, and it has worked for me
[08:21] <subdesign> i see
[08:21] <dontknow> bobbyd, you just made it up
[08:21] <subdesign> thank you compdoc
[08:21] <Qantourisc_remot> dontknow: if you don't need selinux: 64 is as secure as 32 bit
[08:21] <compdoc> subdesign, good luck. might want to back it up
[08:21] <hirsty> Hey all im running a new install of ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[08:22] <bekks> hirsty: We dont know? :)
[08:22] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: how is the gnome tool called in CLI ?
[08:22] <bekks> hirsty: Tell us, are you running a new install? :)
[08:22] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: a dound it gadmin
[08:22] <zizoo> Hey, do you guys think there is a netbook out there for ~$300 or less that could perform well with xubuntu or lubuntu (or maybe some other lightweight desktop)? What netbook(s)/distro do you recommend, or where should I search or ask about this? Thinking on maybe asking on a stackexchange, but not sure which one would be best..
[08:22] <Kolusion> Is there an Ubuntu torrent?
[08:22] <hirsty> and i have a weird problem :/ Im running the rt3060 chipset for my wireless on my pc i can connect to my hotspot but cant connect to my wireless router :/
[08:23] <zizoo> Err, desktop, not distro. Though other distro recommendations are welcome too I guess.
[08:23] <Kolusion> see, open source is useless
[08:24] <zizoo> lol Kolusion. And everyone else who waits less than two minutes for an answer on an IRC help channel. xD
[08:25] <cervantez> hi guys
[08:26] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: gadmin-openvpn-client is more of the same GUI problems :( in this case "i have to import something first" but only the sourcecode can help me to get a CLUE where)
[08:26] <cervantez> @zizoo i think most netbooks run ubuntu fast enough
[08:26] <hirsty>                                                i did attempt using a bash script last night to fix it to no avail - its the 64 bit version :)
[08:26] <bobbyd> zizoo, my netbook is running standard ubuntu fine
[08:26] <cervantez> i would not go under 1gb of ram though
[08:26] <bobbyd> I think I upgraded it to 2GB ram, but it was ok before that.
[08:26] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, http://gopenvpn.sourceforge.net/ is what i meant - sadly not in the repos
[08:27] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: ow /me tries
[08:27] <zizoo> I would like to improve speed somewhat though, if possible. Is it typically faster than Windows 7? I remember how well my last (still reasonably good for the price) netbook fared(sp? faired?) with that and was not pleased.
[08:27] <hirsty> any clue anyone? i am on the internet atm because i have tethered my mobile to the usb :D
[08:29] <bobbyd> zizoo, my netbook takes about 5 minutes to boot under windows xp, and about one minute under Ubuntu
[08:29] <bobbyd> zizoo, Win 7 uses more ram than XP in general, so I'd expect it to be worse
[08:29] <bobbyd> zizoo, also, the virus checker kills performance under XP, and I don't need that under Ubuntu.
[08:29] <bobbyd> in general, I think you'll be fine.
[08:30] <zizoo> How about loading a browser with a 4 or 5 tabs?
[08:30] <hydrox24> hirsty: hmmm, seems that it should work perfectly in 12.04, are all updates installed?
[08:30] <bobbyd> hirsty, disable wifi security and try again
[08:30] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, by the way, the old ubuntu packages seem to work fine with later releases aswell
[08:30] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: i was counting on that
[08:30] <bobbyd> zizoo, depends what's on the tabs, but if it's not all Flash and WebGL, then it's fine
[08:30] <zizoo> And hm, that sounds good I guess. Was still wondering though if folks think Xubuntu or Lubuntu might improve performance even more.
[08:31] <bobbyd> number of tabs is usually just related to memory
[08:31] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: I'm used to a cli-based linux ... this gui sucks :)
[08:31] <hirsty> bobby my mobile hotspot uses the same security so it should work in theory?
[08:31] <zizoo> And generally I meant something moderately heavy, but not like Flash or crazy media. Like long Wiki pages.
[08:31] <bobbyd> I think mine boots using around 300Megs of ram
[08:31] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, the gui is a nice terminal multiplexer....
[08:31] <bobbyd> zizoo, oh, those are fine
[08:31] <zizoo> Ok, cool.
[08:31] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: hehe :) well battery is flat, brb
[08:32] <bobbyd> hirsty, yep, it should, but disable it anyway and then you'll know :)
[08:32] <hirsty> i am currently connected it if you want any reports from the terminal?
[08:32] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, http://drop.geekbox.info/gopenvpn_0.6-0sifnt_amd64.deb if you like/trust.
[08:32] <bobbyd> hirsty, you're connected to the router?
[08:32] <hirsty> yes
[08:33] <hirsty> well...it says so anyway
[08:33] <zizoo> hirsty: You're connected but not loading pages or online services...?
[08:34] <zizoo> Or you're getting full internet via the router?
[08:34] <hirsty> correct ive tried specifying a fixed ipv4 aress 192.168.1.25 with subnet 255.255.255.0 and def gateway 192.168.1.1 and using DNS servers provided by openDNS
[08:35] <bobbyd> hirsty, does your router have a web interface?
[08:35] <bobbyd> hirsty, can you check that the router is connected to the internet?
[08:35] <hirsty> yes but i am unable to access it
[08:35] <bobbyd> you'll have to connect with an ethernet cable
[08:36] <hirsty> it is otherwise i wouldnt be here (mobile connected thru wifi and im tethering off of usb)
[08:36] <noobx> hi everyone
[08:36] <nibbler__> hirsty, can you nopaste "tail -n 200 /var/log/syslog; ip a s; ip r s; cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[08:36] <bobbyd> hirsty, oh right
[08:36] <nibbler__> hirsty, executed while connected to/trying to connect to the router
[08:36] <bobbyd> I thought you were connecting through your phone connection
[08:37] <hydrox24> hirsty: do you have a linux laptop that is working with the wifi?
[08:37] <noobx> i have trouble in creating bootable usb for ubuntu can anyone help me with it?
[08:38] <noobx> err that
[08:38] <nibbler__> noobx, burn the image to cd, boot the cd, start the usb creator
[08:38] <noobx> i am using win 7 right now
[08:39] <hirsty> http://pastebin.com/tCNzEnJx
[08:39] <noobx> i tried unetboot and universal usb creator but they didnt work
[08:40] <bekks> noobx: Is your computer able to boot from USB at all?
[08:40] <hirsty> hydrox i am connected via desktop :) my custom built setup :D no laptops
[08:40] <noobx> yep it is able to boot from usb
[08:40] <Slart> I'm looking for a way to shape my torrent-traffic. I'm running deluge and using a pretty simple tc script but since I have encryption enabled in deluge I'm having a hard time deciding what traffic is torrent-traffic. Any hints or helpful thoughts?
[08:40] <silverghost> OI OI, I'am real punx eh?' ' u all r fallowers"
[08:40] <nibbler__> hirsty, looks good, just a nameserver is missing. try "ping 8.8.8.8" please to verify, if this works: echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[08:41] <silverghost> ugh, eh  oi punx rulez u all r poserz
[08:41] <hirsty> is it possible to ping specifically on wlan0? otherwise it would ping through my mobile
[08:41] <silverghost>  chat in punk 1 my home
[08:41] <nibbler__> hirsty, or for more debug: sudo dhclient -v wlan0
[08:42] <silverghost> smokes bongs too eh'
[08:42] <Slart> !ops | silverghost
[08:43] <nibbler__> hirsty, oh, even worse, sorry didnt notice before. what is the ip of your router?
[08:44] <nibbler__> hirsty, try: ip r a 8.8.8.8/32 via IP-OF-YOUR-ROUTER (which starts with 192.168.1. hopefully)
[08:44] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: DAM ubuntu software center is a memory hog !
[08:44] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, never use it ;-) dpkg/apt-*
[08:45] <hirsty> result of debug http://pastebin.com/RhUCPC97
[08:45] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: point
[08:45] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: trying to get the "user experience"
[08:46] <nibbler__> hirsty, so it gets all info via dhcp - now manually
[08:46] <noobx> :( i need help
[08:46] <nibbler__> hirsty, so: ip r a 8.8.8.8/32 via 192.168.1.1 - then tracepath 8.8.8.8 to see if it goes via your router
[08:47] <asp1176> i need help w/ 'backing up' a dvd...
[08:47] <nibbler__> noobx, as i suggested before, boot from a clean ubuntu cd, then try running the usb-creator that ships with ubuntu
[08:48] <hirsty> i get a response file exists?
[08:48] <asp1176> i'm using handbrake, but it only encodes a couple of minutes of a 2 hr movie
[08:48] <noobx> but i want to install ubuntu on usb drive not want to creat live usb
[08:48] <nibbler__> hirsty, the first time already?
[08:48] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: how do i get it to run dhcpclient ? :p
[08:49] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, good question, it should do this automatically.... I'd guess you disabled dhcp for the auto-wlan0 connection, but you get an IP, but i dont see how you get it, is it fixed ip maybe?
[08:49] <hirsty> not getting replies from the tracepath
[08:49] <Guest24872> eric
[08:50] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, sorry, 2 dhcp topic right now, confused it ;-)
[08:50] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, do you have "pull" in your configs?
[08:51] <Qantourisc_remot> error launching openvpn subporeccess grrr
[08:51] <hirsty> well first i got permission denied then sudoed it
[08:51] <hirsty> :P
[08:51] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: what you mean pull in ?
[08:51] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, in your config file, is there a line "pull" - like the word, like the option. see "man openvpn" search for --pull
[08:51] <hirsty> this is on full DHCP atm
[08:52] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: to be fair, my config is probably borked :)
[08:52] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: and no
[08:52] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, hmm, seems only to apply to routes, not to IP :/
[08:52] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: it's tap :)
[08:53] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: but more importantly, the installation is borked atm :)
[08:53] <nibbler__> hirsty, sorry i'm out of ideas, but its quiet clear that it is *not* a wlan problem (layer 2 connection establised perfectly) but more likely a dhcp not willing to run problem, somehow you get an ip but no route via the wlan interface.
[08:53] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, ah okay.... no experience with tap on my side
[08:54] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: aa setuuid is not set
[08:54] <hirsty> driver problem or?
[08:54] <nibbler__> Qantourisc_remot, gopenvpn should query for your sudo password then
[08:54] <nibbler__> hirsty, no, no driver problem imho. well... can you ping 192.168.1.1
[08:54] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: euu nvm i'm running it as root i see now :)
[08:55] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: that makes things a lot worse though
[08:55] <nibbler__> hirsty, your latest paste shows successfull datatransfer between the router and your pc, discussing IP addresses with each other, so i'd not set this on layer 2
[08:56] <hirsty> ping result to 192.168.1.1 seems to be hanging a bit
[08:56] <zizoo> Oh, and I have one other question. I am also considering getting a tablet instead of a netbook for my $300, but I still want to load Linux on it. Any considerations on what tablet would be ideal for that? I especially like the idea of using and developing multi-touch applications specifically for Linux.
[08:57] <nibbler__> zizoo, all android tablets run on linux.
[08:57] <zizoo> nibbler__: I am aware. I would like Ubuntu.
[08:57] <nibbler__> then you might consider asking that ;-)
[08:58] <hirsty> :/
[08:58] <hirsty> still waiting on ping results...
[08:59] <zizoo> ;P Thanks. Still don't understand the confusion, but thanks for helping me resolve it I guess. xD
[08:59] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: doesn't work as root :)
[08:59] <zizoo> What should I consider in a tablet if I want to put Ubuntu on it?
[08:59] <nibbler__> hirsty, there are no results, ctrl-c it, it runs forever
[09:00] <hirsty> :/ weird lemme unplug my phone and try ping it will brb asap
[09:00] <nibbler__> hirsty, reconnect and reexecute dhclient aswell
[09:01] <hirsty> can u paste me the command line
[09:02] <nibbler__> hirsty, sudo dhclient -v wlan0 (after reconnecting to the router)
[09:02] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: /etc/openvpn/up.sh
[09:04] <hirsty> back
[09:04] <hirsty> i think my subnet may be incorrect?
[09:05] <hirsty> here is the result: http://pastebin.com/n35QjKgC
[09:05] <hirsty> shouldnt my subnet be 255.255.255.0?
[09:06] <nibbler__> hirsty, hard to tell - i'd assume its right, as dhcp hands out 192.168.1.8 to you - netmask is not visible there, the 32bits you see is just the broadcast for the request
[09:06] <junctions> hello guys, I just wanted to know if there's a way to use a computer as a secondary monitor. I'm already using x2x through ssh and it's ok but I can't drag windows between monitors (as expected).
[09:06] <bekks> hirsty: That is a broadcast.
[09:06] <bekks> hirsty: Check your settings with "ifconfig -a" now.
[09:06] <nibbler__> hirsty, ip a s <- this shows you the netmask you get
[09:06] <hirsty> disconnecting again brb
[09:06] <chroot> how to create a link between two directories?
[09:07] <nibbler__> hirsty, did you reboot your router? maybe it just hangs partially
[09:07] <nibbler__> chroot, ln -s
[09:07] <chroot> nibbler__: ln -s foo bar , it will link foo to bar
[09:08] <nibbler__> chroot, yes. first argument is target (should be existing) second is link name (will be created)
[09:08] <nibbler__> chroot, mount -obind /foo /bar is another option
[09:08] <hot2trot> is there anyway to route ALL of my internet activity through a proxy, not just ssh or web browser
[09:09] <nibbler__> hot2trot, yes, either using netfilter (iptables) or by configuring the software that way, or by using a soxyfy wrapper
[09:09] <hirsty> ok ran both the above commands
[09:09] <nibbler__> hot2trot, but you might want a socks proxy for that and not a http/ftp[s] one
[09:10] <hot2trot> nibbler__: i'm not really gonna do it right now, but it is possible and reasonably easy to do?
[09:10] <qsuscs> hello
[09:10] <hirsty> here are my results: http://pastebin.com/tRFgjpEb
[09:10] <nibbler__> hot2trot, yes. check out documentation on tor or the like
[09:10] <qsuscs> when i reactivitaded my computer from standby yesterday, i somehow found out that / has been remounted ro due to an error
[09:11] <qsuscs> so today i took any cd with linux (it was kubuntu 10.10) and wanted to run fsck
[09:11] <nibbler__> hirsty, ifconfig is just the old (deprecated) version of the same command, interesting is "ip r s" to see routing, but even without that you should be able to ping your router at 192.168.1.1... did you reboot your router ?
[09:11] <qsuscs> but i got that: fsck.ext4: Device or resource busy beim Versuch, /dev/sda5 zu öffnen (...while trying to open /dev/sda5)
[09:12] <qsuscs> so with lsof i found out that this one is blocking it: root       507  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    08:49   0:00 [jbd2/sda5-8]
[09:12] <nibbler__> qsuscs, does not sound good
[09:12] <hirsty> no i have not as there are 4 people in the house that connect to it :) and do not wish to be a pain in the backside :D
[09:12] <nibbler__> hirsty, ah ok, perfect. so can they ping 192.168.1.1? can you?
[09:12] <qsuscs> how can i run a fsck now?
[09:13] <nibbler__> qsuscs, reboot
[09:13] <hirsty> nope
[09:13] <nibbler__> hirsty, "nope, nope", "yes, nope" or "nope, yes"
[09:15] <junctions> hey, anybody here know how I could set up another computer as a secondary monitor? (all programs should be run in the first computer)
[09:15] <hirsty> can ping from my android terminal but cannot ping from ubuntu
[09:15] <bluezy> Hello everyone, I have a silly auestion;  i haven't used ubuntu in a while, to go from stable to testing release is it still simply changing the sources.list source server from bladiebladiebla main to bladiebladiebla testing?
[09:16] <bluezy> question even
[09:16] <bluezy> junctions run the first as server, log into the first one, it is rather easy, I would use ssh to connect
[09:17] <qsuscs> well, nibbler__, i don't know how this should help, i already tried yesterday, but it didn't work either, but it was late, and i had to go to bed...
[09:17] <hirsty> i run ubuntu side by side on my pc with windows 7 64 bit, which runs fine
[09:17] <Stanley00> bluezy: you mean the next ubuntu release? quantal?
[09:18] <junctions> hey bluezy, thanks. but wait, ssh into the server and then how do I make the other one an extension of the first monitor? I also want to use the keyboard of the server to control both displays
[09:19] <bluezy> oh junctions, sorry that I am unsure off
[09:20] <junctions> ah bluezy, thanks for trying anyways. I'm using x2x through ssh to control both computers from one, but I'd like to be able to drag windows from one to the other
[09:20] <bluezy> stanley00 if I recall correctly, if you instead of using the names use stable testing or unstable, it keeps picking up the latest ones
[09:21] <bluezy> but I may be mistaken with debian
[09:21] <bluezy> I mean, they both use apt, but I know debian has that working, sort off
[09:22] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: the vpn thingy can't do it
[09:23] <bluezy> oh well,I'll just give it a go, and we'll see what happens
[09:23] <bluezy> (I will keep a backup copy of my sources.list
[09:24] <bluezy> thank you for keeping me amused and giving me a little project to try :-)
[09:30] <zizoo> Any tips on what would be a good tablet to load Ubuntu on for $300-ish?
[09:33] <RomeoAva> Please, I installed Ubuntu 12:04 and I have in Home a folder name it Debian. Is no hide. Can I change location? Can delete it? Thanks!
[09:34] <hirsty> back
[09:34] <hirsty> any ideas?
[09:36] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: gnome sucks :§
[09:37] <Qantourisc_remot> nibbler__: gonne jerryrig a script
[09:37] <Lino> ciao
[09:38] <Lino> !list
[09:39] <compdoc> its 3:42am
[09:40] <testi> I have high CPU usage in Ubuntu 12.04 because of ubuntuone-syncd. Is that bug ever going to be fixed or is it irrelevant to Canonical? Does that company still exist?
[09:44] <compdoc> testiI think Ive seen one core have high use because of UbuntuOne as well. went away on its own, so Im not sure why that happened
[09:44] <compdoc> *testi,
[09:48] <n2deep> Hey what was in that last udevd update that was just pushed out to everyone in the last couple days I just installed it and my custom udev rules are choking
[09:48] <n2deep> what gives
[09:48] <testi> compdoc: ah it goes down after a while on my test system too. So I hope that in 2 years I can already upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04.
[09:48] <n2deep> How do I find that in launchpad or anywhere else for that matter
[09:50] <glenn> how can help me with sharing a printer in ubuntu
[09:51] <compdoc> testi, it has never happened with 12.04, and I've installed it on many computers
[09:52] <glenn> who can help me with sharing my brohter-hl-1450 by ubuntu so that i can print by xp and win7
[09:52] <llutz_> glenn: use your browser, open "http://localhost:631" and enable printer sharing
[09:53] <glenn> llutz_: where can i set enable printer sharing in cups
[09:54] <llutz_> glenn: "admin" enable sharing
[09:54] <glenn> llutz_: i did that but i can't print
[09:54] <llutz_> glenn: restart cups
[09:55] <glenn> llutz_:  did that also
[09:55] <glenn> llutz_:  did that also no printing
[09:55] <llutz_> glenn: in windows add a network-printer, point it to "http://cupsmachine:631/printers/queuename"
[09:55] <aethelrick> glenn http://www.owlfish.com/thoughts/winipp-cups-2003-07-20.html
[09:55] <setman> Hi all, I just finished disabling all effects on kde because I removed my video card. I've got additionnal drivers I can install. Should I install one of them ? GPU : GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
[09:55] <llutz_> glenn: you need to install printer-drivers for the printer in windows too
[09:56] <n2deep> hmm, maybe my issue is not related to that udevd update after all. ...I just may be asleep at the wheel.
[09:58] <TrevMyster> Hello
[09:59] <TrevMyster> I'm about to wipe windows and install ubuntu
[09:59] <glenn> aethelrick:  they talking about tho change my host file one xp by the ubuntu gets its ip by my router and it is not static
[09:59] <TrevMyster> Can someone tell me what is better with ubuntu over windows?
[10:00] <n2deep> pretty much everything depending on your point of view and needs
[10:00] <compdoc> TrevMyster, I use it for servers, and win7 for my desktop. Linux is stable and fast and the best part: free
[10:00] <TrevMyster> Can you tell me what I can do in linux that I can't in windows / vise versa.
[10:01] <n2deep> If you want complete control over your systems, Ubuntu / Linux is your best option.
[10:01] <TrevMyster> Can you tell me what you mean by "complete control"?
[10:02] <n2deep> TrevMyster: it's not really about what you can / cant do in one vs the other
[10:02] <n2deep> they are both tools
[10:02] <TrevMyster> Well my windows won't even start.
[10:02] <llutz_> TrevMyster: can you please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, this is a support-channel not for general win-linux discussion
[10:02] <TrevMyster> Is linux a good alternative?
[10:02] <aethelrick> TrevMyster: Ubuntu makes a good desktop operating system that is easy to use and feature complete. I've been exclusively using linux for work for well over ten years now and I have no need for windows at all. That said, if you like to play the latest video games then you may want to hang on to a windows partition for that.
[10:03] <TrevMyster> llutz, I don't see how this is off topic?
[10:04] <n2deep> this is not a Windows support channel :)
[10:04] <gvo> TrevMyster: Because this is a support channel for Ubuntu
[10:04] <TrevMyster> I'm not asking for windows support I'm really needing help with Ubuntu(:
[10:04] <TrevMyster> Cause I've already begun the install.
[10:04] <gvo> "Why" isn't a support question.  How is.
[10:04] <n2deep> good for you!
[10:05] <llutz_> TrevMyster: and your support-question is?
[10:05] <gvo> So you're looking for a reason to install Ubuntu after you've started installing it?  Seems backwards to me.  ;)
[10:05] <TrevMyster> Llutz, seeing how I've never used Ubuntu. I'm going to need help get started(:
[10:05] <llutz_> !manual | TrevMyster
[10:06] <TrevMyster> Ok do I want to "Install this third-party software" when insatlling it?
[10:07] <llutz_> how would we know?
[10:07] <TrevMyster> Idk what it does
[10:07] <n2deep> TrevMyster: just try to remember that it's still a computer and an operating system. You can do what you need to do, just realize that you may need to re-train your mind a little (or a lot)
[10:07] <TrevMyster> Fluendo
[10:08] <n2deep> all that 3rd party software can be installed after the install is finished too
[10:09] <n2deep> TrevMyster: there is thousands of software packages available to you on Ubuntu.
[10:19] <ssh-1138> Greets, I think apt-get is broken.
[10:19] <ssh-1138> the past few times I've tried in GUI and CLI to download skype or wine
[10:19] <ssh-1138> I keep getting a 404 from the repo
[10:19] <ssh-1138> I go to ping the repo, its there.
[10:19] <ssh-1138> I don't understand.
[10:21] <llutz_> ssh-1138: 404 means file not found, not server down
[10:25] <ssh-1138> anyone around?
[10:25] <Controls> maybe
[10:25] <Controls> :)
[10:25] <ssta> ssh-1138: often a 404 from teh repo means you need to do "sudo apt-get update"
[10:25] <freaker> hello
[10:25] <ssh-1138> alright, though I've tried that.
[10:25] <Controls> hi there
[10:25] <ssh-1138> Let me get the error
[10:26] <ssta> ssh-1138: could also be an out of sync mirror, which happens occaasionally...but is usually fixed in a few hours
[10:26] <freaker> total linux noob here just watching and reading  :)
[10:26] <ssh-1138> several errors
[10:26] <ssh-1138> W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[10:26] <ssh-1138> all of them center around no public key
[10:27] <bekks> ssh-1138: Thats a warning "W:" only :)
[10:27] <ssh-1138> ahhhh.
[10:27] <llutz_> and wheres the 404?
[10:27] <glenn> cannot open printer handle for printer \\linux
[10:28] <ssh-1138> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/v/vino/vino_3.4.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.30 80]
[10:28] <ssh-1138> when trying to download wine
[10:29] <subdesign> hi, i just created a new ext4 partition, but i cant make new folder on it. what to do?
[10:29] <llutz_> !permissions | subdesign you need to adjust permissions
[10:29] <ssta> ssh-1138: that's because it's been updated to ...-0ubuntu1.1.  You need to update
[10:30] <chroot_> hi, how can i install gnome3 desktop in ubuntu12.04
[10:31] <chroot_> which package i need to install
[10:31] <llutz_> !info gnome-session     | chroot_
[10:31] <ssta> chroot_: gnome-session (I think)
[10:32] <glenn> ho can help me to share my brother printer 1450 by ubuntu so that i can print form win7
[10:32] <ssh-1138> ssta ... update?
[10:33] <ssh-1138> as in sudo apt-get update?
[10:33] <ssh-1138> or another one entirely?
[10:33] <glenn> how to share a printer on linux
[10:33] <llutz_> glenn: you have been told already
[10:33] <SwashBuckla> hey all, in GRUB2 I have set GRUB_TIMEOUT=0, which means I can't boot into Ubuntu. How do I fix this?
[10:33] <glenn> llutz it 's not working
[10:34] <llutz_> !donotwork
[10:34] <SwashBuckla> !doughnutworks
[10:34] <llutz_> !dontwork
[10:34] <mkktbkkt> hello everyone
[10:34] <freaker> hello
[10:36] <glenn> hi
[10:36] <ssh-1138> ssta ... update?
[10:36] <ssh-1138> as in sudo apt-get update?
[10:36] <ssh-1138> or another one entirely?
[10:36] <SwashBuckla> in GRUB I have set GRUB_TIMEOUT=0, which means I can't boot into Ubuntu (the default OS is Windows)
[10:36] <SwashBuckla> I would like to use my existing Ubuntu installation but I'm trapped!
[10:37] <hydrox24> shinao1: try "sudo apt-get update"
[10:37] <hydrox24> then try reinstalling wine.
[10:37] <hydrox24> I've got to go now though, sorry.
[10:37] <chroot_> SwashBuckla: if you set the timeout to 0, you will bootinto ubuntu imediatly
[10:37] <glenn> how can i share a printer in ubuntu
[10:37] <chroot_> I do that on my machine to save the start up time
[10:38] <bekks> chroot_: How often do you boot during 24h? :)
[10:38] <mkktbkkt> can i use Compiz Fusion on xubuntu?
[10:40] <chroot_> bekks: that depends, two on average.
[10:40] <ssta> wow
[10:40] <llutz_> whow, saves 6 seconds/day...
[10:40] <ssh-1138> hydrox24: u
[10:40] <ssh-1138> * dimitri has quit (Client Quit)
 ssta ... update?
 as in sudo apt-get update?
 or another one entirely?
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[10:40] <FloodBot1> ssh-1138: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:40] <ssta> I reboot maybe 4 times/year... :)
[10:41] <ssta> ssh-1138: yes, apt-get update
[10:41] <SwashBuckla> chroot_: wrong
[10:42] <ssh-1138> ssta: http://pastebin.com/wdtAJDu0
[10:42] <SwashBuckla> chroot_: i also set the default selection to be 3 (Windows in my menu)
[10:42] <bekks> chroot_: So you will save 20s a day :)
[10:42] <chroot_> SwashBuckla: you mean you install ubuntu along side windows?
[10:42] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: doesnt holding down left-shift at boot force the menu to be shown?
[10:43] <chroot_> SwashBuckla: then the ubuntu will be the default boot os
[10:43] <SwashBuckla> llutz_: no
[10:43] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: then you should get a live-cd and fix this
[10:43] <chroot_> SwashBuckla: normally, unless you configure it to start windows as the default operating system
[10:43] <chroot_> bekks: yes
[10:43] <SwashBuckla> chroot_: I modified menu.lst or whatever it is in grub2 so that Windows is the default
[10:44] <SwashBuckla> llutz_: what do I do in the livecd?
[10:44] <ssta> ssh-1138: perhaps this can help?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/80965/gpg-badsig-error
[10:44] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: change your grub-settings
[10:44] <SwashBuckla> does the livecd need to be 64bit if the OS is 64bit?
[10:44] <chroot_> bekks: oh, i was always wondering could i make some change to let the ubuntu boot faster?
[10:44] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: or just boot into your ubuntu to fix it
[10:44] <SwashBuckla> llutz_: lololol
[10:44] <SwashBuckla> llutz_: if I could do that I wouldn't have a problem
[10:44] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: ^^ using the live-cd
[10:45] <chroot_> SwashBuckla: I see, you prefer windows, but you can also set it back, i mean let the ubuntu be the default os
[10:45] <SwashBuckla> i don't prefer windows
[10:45] <SwashBuckla> but I want timeout to be 1 or something
[10:45] <SwashBuckla> so I get a chance to choose
[10:45] <SwashBuckla> llutz_: so livecd must be 64 bit if OS is 64 bit/
[10:45] <SwashBuckla> ?
[10:45] <bekks> SwashBuckla: Then just set it to 10, e.g.
[10:46] <chroot_> SwashBuckla: if you set the timeout to be 3, then you will got a chance to chose which os to enter!
[10:46] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: to change grub? no any live-cd would do
[10:46] <SwashBuckla> llutz_: wrong
[10:46] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: just set timeout=3 in grub-cfg to boot once
[10:46] <bekks> SwashBuckla: Not wrong. For changing grub any livecd is sufficient.
[10:46] <SwashBuckla> wrong
[10:46] <chroot_> SwashBuckla: and after you change the grub file, you should run update-grub to update it
[10:47] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: don't ask if you don't want an answer
[10:47] <bekks> SwashBuckla: It is working like that here for years. No matter what you like or not.
[10:47] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: you'll need 64bit live-cd if you want to run anything inside a chroot. not for just changing grub-timeout
[10:48] <dontknow> if i use jockey to install driver, will it be install latest ati driver?
[10:49] <dontknow> automated driver installation works on my computer
[10:49] <dontknow> will it install 12.06?
[10:50] <dontknow> 12.6*
[10:50] <bekks> dontknow: No. It will install the latest version available from the Ubuntu repos.
[10:51] <dontknow> bekks, where should i look if it is latest or not?
[10:51] <llutz_> dontknow: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> dontknow  the latest may be unstable and is not always the best
[10:52] <dontknow> MonkeyDust, 12.4 was pain in the ass
[10:53] <SwashBuckla> llutz_: isn't it necessary to run chroot to modify grub2 though?
[10:53] <dontknow> llutz_, i haven't installed ubuntu yet! could you send me a link for that?
[10:53] <SwashBuckla> llutz_: i.e. you do need the same arch for the live-cd
[10:53] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: you don't read what i write. to change grub it is, just to change a textfile to boot once its not
[10:53] <SwashBuckla> but grub2 doesn't use textfiles
[10:53] <SwashBuckla> afaik
[10:53] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: it does /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:54] <SwashBuckla> but then don't you have to run grub-generate (or similar) to build the new grub2 image?
[10:54] <llutz_> SwashBuckla:  grep timeout /boot/grub/grub.cfg   one is set to "-1" and the other to 0 in your case, change the 0 into 5 or whatever
[10:54] <SwashBuckla> based on grub.cfg
[10:55] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: then you can boot into your ubuntu and THEN fix grub the correct way
[10:55] <SwashBuckla> ah yeah, I can do that I guess
[10:55] <bekks> SwashBuckla: For changing the boot behaviour, you never had to build a new boot image.
[10:55] <SwashBuckla> didn't I?
[10:55] <bekks> SwashBuckla: No, using grub, that was never needed.
[10:55] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: once booted into ubuntu, edit /etc/default/grub and run "sudo update-grub" after it
[10:56] <SwashBuckla> I thought I had to do update-grub
[10:56] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: and this can be made from any live-cd you want, it just needs an editor and to be able to read/write your filesystem used for /boot
[10:56] <SwashBuckla> which recreated the GRUB 2 menu file
[10:56] <bekks> SwashBuckla: A menu file isnt a boot image.
[10:57] <llutz_> and could have been done in 10% the time we discuss this...
[10:57] <SwashBuckla> heh
[10:57] <SwashBuckla> I'm downloading a livecd as we speak
[10:58] <llutz_> SwashBuckla: supergrub-cd would be my choice, just to boot directly into your ubuntu
[10:59] <MarKsaitis> is there anything like this open source and free? http://www.dextronet.com/tree-notes this is a wonderful app
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> MarKsaitis  what does it do?
[11:01] <MarKsaitis> MonkeyDust, it lets you organise your information in notes and trees which is wonderful
[11:01] <pmdz> hi @all. I bought Dell XPS 13 few days ago. Installed 64bit version of Ubuntu, and system sees only 3.2GB of RAM instead of 4GB. In bios I can see 4096MB. Any ideas?
[11:02] <MarKsaitis> MonkeyDust, look at that screenshot on the left of the page.
[11:02] <ssta> pmdz: usual suspect is onboard graphics stealing memory...
[11:02] <MarKsaitis> All I want is a window with notes tree structure on the left and notes themselves on the right. Imagine it, you can store all your systems info here ORGANISED relativelly
[11:02] <pmdz> ssta: yes, but not in this case. It's integrated Intel HD3000
[11:03] <MarKsaitis> pmdz, does it run well with ubuntu?
[11:03] <MarKsaitis> like really fast and smooth?
[11:03] <pmdz> yes, It's fantastic machine with good support. With modified kernel ofc
[11:04] <DrZhivago> Good Day All - Anyone out there that could possibly advise me on a Raid issue?
[11:05] <CynepCupon> hello
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> MarKsaitis  try sudo lshw -html > foo.htm
[11:05] <CynepCupon> can someone please help me install the "radeon" / "ati" driver, the open source driver.
[11:06] <CynepCupon> so i can enable vga switcharoo
[11:06] <MarKsaitis> MonkeyDust, why?
[11:10] <Babyieboo> I know this maybe the wrong channel or place and I apologize in advance but I wanna know if ubuntu can be installed on xperia play r800i thanks
[11:16] <zetheroo> what is the best way to install Java in Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> !java| zetheroo start here
[11:18] <Kwpolska> What is the default DM of Ubuntu 12.04?  It doesn't look like GDM.
[11:18] <llutz_> Kwpolska: lightdm
[11:19] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: thanks, but I have been there and read that ... however I am wondering if there is a method that people can recommend so I don't have to bloody myself going through what others have already gone through ...
[11:19] <Kwpolska> thanks.
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  that was the recommended way
[11:29] <RomeoAva> I can' see the fonts isn aPowerPoit presentation in Ubuntu 12:04. Any Idea?
[11:29] <RomeoAva> the roouts are roling
[11:29] <RomeoAva> the font is biger
[11:30] <RomeoAva> I tray to instal some windows fonts. any idea?
[11:31] <maj> how can i make flash work on youtube, both versions web and software centre crash on me?
[11:32] <jcklk_> maj: Synaptic?
[11:32] <maj> jcklk_:wich to install from synaptic?
[11:34] <maj> jcklk_:synaptic already says flashplugin-installer 11.2 ...
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> maj  try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[11:34] <jcklk_> maj: I need to install Flash myself, I'll find it for you.
[11:34] <maj> im on 11.10 lubuntu
[11:36] <maj> MonkeyDust:flashplugin is already latest version it says
[11:37] <maj> wich log can i see if flash crashed?
[11:37] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: there are at least three separate methods on that document ... no!?
[11:39] <jmo1218> hi installed 12.04 on a barebones system and need advice on getting it to boot with display working
[11:40] <jmo1218> i am at the recovery prompt but unsure how to continue...can anyone help?
[11:41] <sajjad1> hi.how can i change status icons and other visual things like this in empathy?
[11:41] <mydogsnameisrudy> jmo1218:  what did you install ubuntu 12.04?
[11:42] <jmo1218> sorry meant precide pangolin
[11:42] <jmo1218> precise
[11:42] <Asad2005> How do i ssh to a VM os with IP of 10.0.2.15 from my ubuntu pc with different subnet 192.168.....
[11:43] <maj> anyone can help me fix flashplugin both web and software centre versions crash on me
[11:43] <Asad2005> i can ping my pc address from VM but not the otherwayround
[11:43] <jmo1218> installation is sucessfull but unable to get desktop
[11:43] <mydogsnameisrudy> jmo1218:  do you get to the login screen?
[11:43] <TrevMyster> what is the best torrent downloader for Ubuntu
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  yes, there's more than one method
[11:44] <jmo1218> mydogsnameisrudy: no screen goes black then nothing
[11:44] <jcklk_> maj: Why don't you just install the latest updates for Lubuntu? It will probably sort out all the crashes.
[11:44] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: which method would you recommend?
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset| jmo1218
[11:45] <maj> jcklk_: i just did full upgrade no fixed flash
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  i havent tried them myself
[11:45] <Josh4all> system settings -> additional drivers -> ati/amd proprietary fglrx graphics driver (after installation, reboot) -> details -> graphics -> it says "driver VESA: M92"    but why?
[11:45] <zetheroo> ?MonkeyDust: ok ... do you use Java on your system
[11:45] <jmo1218> MonkeyDust: ok will check it out thanks
[11:46] <jcklk_> maj: Lubuntu 12.4?
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  guess i've never needed it
[11:46] <netforce_> hi
[11:47] <maj> jcklk_: lubuntu 11.10 but on all flash crash
[11:48] <maj> jcklk_:on firefox, chromium, unity, lxde works nowhere..
[11:49] <hirsty> hi all ive found my wireless has come with a dat configyuration file would that be why it cant connect??
[11:50] <jmo1218> MonkeyDust: cheers it worked :)
[11:50] <maj> where can i check if flash crashed
[11:50] <netforce_> hi all
[11:51] <netforce_> i have the fallowing problem with my ubuntu 12.04
[11:51] <netforce_> i try to connect to vpn network
[11:51] <luftikuss> In mc, what is the command to make Panel 2's contents identical to Panel 1?
[11:52] <purplefool> in 'display' my monitor is shown as a laptop.  how do i change this to my gnr widescreen?
[11:52] <W4sp_> W4sp
[11:53] <netforce_> can anyone help my
[11:53] <netforce_> ??
[11:55] <purplefool> in 'display' my monitor is shown as a laptop.  how do i change this to my gnr widescreen?
[11:58] <netforce_> hi all, i have problem with connection to vpn server on ubuntu 12.04 can aneone help my???
[11:59] <Auzy> Need more details netforce_
[11:59] <Auzy> unfortunately with VPN, it isn't always basic
[12:00] <chenhangwei> ok
[12:00] <chenhangwei> ping
[12:01] <irreverant> I have a question about updating my libraries or installing using apt-get install command
[12:02] <Auzy> should ask irreverant ... if someone can help, they will
[12:02] <gry> Hello. After upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04, I have some issues which appear to be related to /usr/local/{bin,sbin} not being in $PATH (http://pastebin.ca/2177247). Should they be there and if so, how do I re-add them and how do I find out why they disappeared? Thanks. :-)
[12:03] <maj> anyone know howto fix adobe flash on 11.10, both version web or software centre crash on me
[12:04] <netforce_> i have vpn gataway, and username and password.I can connect to this gataway on MAC OS  with vpn-1 secure client, but on my ubuntu no.Thanks for the interest Auzy.
[12:04] <maj> i wish someone invent an alternative for adobe flash
[12:04] <gry> maj: Hello. I'll not be necessarily be the one helping you, but please add some details to your question. When do they crash for you and how exactly do they crash? Thanks.
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> maj  it's called gnash
[12:04] <Auzy> maj.. Flash is getting obsoleted anyway..
[12:04] <Odra> Hello
[12:05] <Auzy> Pretty sure adobe is focusing on HTML5 now anyway
[12:05] <Auzy> netforce_, what kind of VPN? You using Networkmanager?
[12:05] <maj> gry: when i open youtube, nothing happens on firefox, chromium says plugin missing, i just installed latest flash from web..
[12:05] <Auzy> Maj.. If you use Chrome, it has flash embedded..
[12:05] <Auzy> Google Chrome
[12:05] <gry> maj: Did you attempt installing flash from the software center? What packages did you try?
[12:06] <maj> Auzy:lemme try that
[12:06] <gry> Auzy: Chromium I imagine :-)
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> maj  i guess upgrading to 12.04 will solve a lot of problems
[12:06] <maj> gry: yes, both same problem..anywhere to see logs what goes wrong?
[12:06] <irreverant> Auzy well i'm trying to use su - then run the command but it doesn't seem to want to accept my password
[12:06] <gry> maj: I'm not aware of 'flash logs' location, but what packages did you try?
[12:06] <maj> MonkeyDust:just upgraded from 10.04 to 11.10, same flash problem
[12:06] <Auzy> but, I had issues in Chrome with the embedded flash.. I had to disable it, and I solved it using the repo one.. But, it could even be buggy video card drivers
[12:07] <Auzy> irreverant, use sudo
[12:07] <netforce_> Auzy: yes, i try to connect with NetworkManager.
[12:07] <gry> !sudo | irreverant
[12:07] <Auzy> Sudo escalates the privileges to admin level
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> maj  you might as well have upgraded to 12.04 then
[12:07] <Auzy> On most distros these days irreverant, Root has a random password.. You can emulate root with sudo bash though
[12:07] <maj> Auzy:whats chrome packagename
[12:08] <Auzy> You need to get it from Google site maj
[12:08] <maj> k
[12:08] <Odra> Do I really, really, need to use mono to develop on .net on linux?
[12:08] <Auzy> If Flash is jumpy, go to about:plugins .. And disable the inbuilt flash to be able to use the external one
[12:09] <Auzy> Odra, Probably?
[12:09] <Odra> :C
[12:09] <Auzy> netforce_, What type of Tunnel?
[12:09] <Auzy> netforce_, Please don't say PPTP...
[12:10] <Odra> But I am barely able to develop on windows. How am I going to develop cross platform
[12:10] <Auzy> Odra, I personally use QT.. try it, you'll like it
[12:10] <Auzy> Odra, and QT is VERY easy to develop for.. it's on par with Cocoa
[12:10] <Auzy> imho
[12:11] <netforce_> Auzy:i m not sure, i think PPTP.
[12:11] <irreverant> Ok. I type sudo -
[12:11] <irreverant> then I get type password for >>>>>>>
[12:11] <irreverant> I do and it says command not found
[12:11] <Auzy> - isn't a command irreverant .. Type sudo bash
[12:12] <irreverant> what is sudo bash?
[12:12] <Auzy> You need a command to be the parameter
[12:12] <Auzy> That thing you are typing commands in.. that is known as bash shell
[12:12] <Odra> Auzy: What is mono?
[12:12] <irreverant> wait why doesn't su - work in ubuntu?
[12:13] <Auzy> So what you are doing, is that sudo is opening a terminal with administrator privileges.. Everything you type in that terminal though, will be root
[12:13] <irreverant> if I want to get super user or root access to install thing?
[12:13] <Auzy> irreverant, Su doesn't work because you don't know the root password..
[12:13] <Auzy> Sudo is a better option
[12:13] <W4sp> irreverant: You would need to type in sudo <command>, such as sudo vi. If you need a shell with root privileges use sudo sh or sudo bash.
[12:14] <purplefool> in 'display' my monitor is shown as a laptop.  how do i change this to my gnr widescreen?
[12:14] <irreverant> so sudo sh or sudo bash emulates/ creates the ability to run things in root/admin mode?
[12:14] <Auzy> Odra, .net thing for linux? But, if you want cross platform apps, I use QT.. It is better imho
[12:14] <Auzy> yes irreverant..
[12:14] <bekks> irreverant: Use sudo -i instead of sudo bash.
[12:14] <Odra> Auzy: But that doesnt make sense
[12:15] <Auzy> Odra.. Why not?
[12:15] <Odra> If its supposed to abstract the .net stuff, why doesnt it work?
[12:15] <Auzy> its a .net development framework..
[12:15] <irreverant> Well, help me understand please why this was changed... cause if I recall su - then password was acceptable for the member / account I was using or even root
[12:16] <Auzy> irreverant, its a security thing.. People shouldn't be hanging out in root account
[12:16] <W4sp> irreverant: IF your require root on command line use sudo sh, once you are authorised use su -. This will give you the environment you may need.
[12:16] <Auzy> irreverant, there is also no point.. With Su exclusively, there is no nice way to give multiple users admin privs..
[12:17] <Odra> I think it should at least do about the same thing. But my menu disappeared. I cant select on my list. And the window wont restore anymore. IMO, that is just not right.
[12:17] <bekks> irreverant: su - never worked, since Ubuntu never had a root password set.
[12:17] <irreverant> Really cause I used it before.
[12:17] <irreverant> I had to enable the root user in user accounts though I think.
[12:17] <bekks> irreverant: Then you set a password for root yourself.
[12:17] <alankila> irreverant: maybe on some other distribution, or perhaps you actually set a root password.
[12:17] <netforce_> Auzy:If type of tunnel is PPTP, can i connect to vpn server under ubuntu.
[12:17] <W4sp> irreverant: if you require to have the ENV of another user use 'su - <username>
[12:17] <scooty_puff2> are all ubuntu packages compatible to run on debian and vise versa?
[12:18] <bekks> scooty_puff2: No.
[12:18] <ssta> scooty_puff2: not really
[12:18] <maj> Auzy:says cant load shockwave flash plugin
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> scooty_puff2  no
[12:18] <Auzy> Yes.. You should be able to netforce_.. But, there are SERIOUS security issues now with PPTP.. ie, PPTP can be cracked within 1 day now..
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> scooty_puff2  if ubuntu were exactly the same as debian, it would be called debian
[12:18] <Auzy> netforce_, PPTP also can have issues due to routers in the path.. Any reason why you are using PPTP?
[12:18] <bekks> Auzy: That was possible 15 years ago.
[12:19] <kora-chan> Hey guys, I'm using 12.04 on a thinkpad x220 (intel hd300). Did a system update yesterday and now my integrated graphics is not recognised anymore. glxgears fails to initialise, glxinfo doesnt find GLX. Any where to start troubleshooting? Thanks!
[12:19] <irreverant> Ok so what's the difference between sudo sh sudo bash sudo vi? I thought VI was an editor? Also if running amok in root was an issue then why offer the ability to use sudo bash if it still gives me the same privileges?
[12:19] <Odra> irreverant: Sudo is sudo.
[12:20] <dwakar> irreverant: bash vi sh are commands
[12:20] <bekks> irreverant: sh is a shell, vi is an editor, and bash is a shell too.
[12:20] <irreverant> bash is bourne again shell right?
[12:20] <irreverant> csh is c shell
[12:20] <maj> Auzy: chrome cant play flash neither, says cant load shockwave flash plugin
[12:20] <dwakar> irreverant: yep
[12:20] <bekks> irreverant: The important thing is, that sudo does not need a root password to be set.
[12:20] <irreverant> and bsh is b something shell
[12:20] <Odra> irreverant: Its like, you have a car, a bike and a jet. Then you add sudo. It becomes awesome car, awesome bike, awesome jet.
[12:21] <Auzy> bekks.. with a supercomputer maybe.. Now, its even easier
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> irreverant  sh means shell, bash means bourne again shell (i forget the history behind 'bourne')
[12:21] <bekks> irreverant: csh is the c shell, bsh is the bourne shell, bash is the bourne again shell and ksh is the korn shell.
[12:21] <ssta> Bourne is the name of the guy who wrote it
[12:21] <W4sp> irreverant: sudo vi is an example to demonstrate how to run vi with root privileges. 'sudo sh' gives you the sh shell with root privileges,
[12:21] <Auzy> bekks, Using Script kiddie tools even..
[12:21] <irreverant> ok then in what order or hierarchy do each run?
[12:21] <bekks> irreverant: That question makes no sense.
[12:21] <Auzy> if you run Sudo Bash, it runs as a program in terminal
[12:21] <ssta> umm, wrote the original shell...
[12:22] <netforce_> Auzy, i do not administer this server, but i need connect with him uneder ubuntu.
[12:22] <ssta> since sh was the Bourne shell;
[12:22] <Odra> irreverant: sudo just makes whatever comes after sudo run on super user mode.
[12:22] <irreverant> Alright then allow me to rephrase. I was giving the example of bike jet and car or were those just a way to illustrate the way each command works?
[12:22] <W4sp> irreverant: as mentioned, run 'sudo sh', after you have authorised run 'su -'. That will give you the ENV of root.
[12:23] <Auzy> netforce.. Could be anything.. My suggestion is to check the  logs.. Tell the Admin to get rid of PPTP though (thats what we have done).. We switched to OpenVPN now, because it works anywhere that allows UDP packets through, and works perfectly behind firewalls
[12:23] <Odra> irreverant: Its like an adjective. Between just command and admin command.
[12:23] <bekks> W4sp: Thats senseless.
[12:23] <bekks> W4sp: sudo -i
[12:23] <Odra> irreverant: When you write sudo you want to run a command on super user mode. Thats all there is to it.
[12:23] <irreverant> alright to make it simple in terms of syntax, sudo apt-get install firefox would be correct?
[12:23] <Odra> irreverant: First it prompts you for a password, then if the password is right it just executes whatever was in front of sudo as a super user.
[12:24] <W4sp> bekks: No, it's not. I did not type sudo -i, I wrote 'sudo sh'
[12:24] <ssta> using sudo is good practice...doesn't quite explain the hostility to other ways we see in here, but just accept that sudo is the Ubuntu way, life will be easier :)
[12:24] <W4sp> irreverant: I don't know anything about bikes.
[12:24] <Odra> sudo apt-get install is just apt-get install on super user mode. Which is needed.
[12:24] <Auzy> irreverant, basically, there is a file, that says what files are administators, just like in Windows.. You know how in windows you get UAC prompts.. Sudo is like a UAC prompt.. it escalates permissions to higher levels
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:24] <Auzy> err.. what users are admins
[12:24] <irreverant> Auzy I get that.
[12:25] <Auzy> that way, a program will ONLY get access to f*** with your system, if you give it explicit permission
[12:25] <Auzy> ok
[12:25] <Odra> sudo <- this is sudo. apt-get <- this is command. install <- this is argument. whatever_you_want_to_instal <- another argument
[12:25] <W4sp> bekks: sudo sh gives you root privileges in sh, the second command 'su -' gets you into root's ENV. It makes very much sense as there is a difference.
[12:26] <netforce_> Auzy, is there a way to understand type of tunnel, only with gataway ip.
[12:26] <bekks> W4sp: su - is senseless using ubuntu, since it requires a root password set, which isnt set by default, for security reasons.
[12:26] <ssta> W4sp: sudo -i does the same thing in a single step
[12:26] <glebihan> W4sp, but that should never be used, precisely it doesn't *correctly* set the environment, "sudo -i" is the command to use
[12:26] <bekks> Andd sudo -i gives you a root shell in the root environment, too.
[12:26] <irreverant> so then ok, sudo sh
[12:26] <irreverant> password
[12:26] <bekks> irreverant: No.
[12:26] <irreverant> apt-get install firefox
[12:26] <bekks> irreverant: sudo -i
[12:26] <Odra> wtf
[12:27] <Auzy> Not really netforce_ .. IF its PPTP though, then, you just use Networkmanager-PPTP.. And, check the logs.. Keep in mind, PPTP never works consistently everywhere
[12:27] <W4sp> bekks: If you try what I wrote you will see 1.) it works, 2.) it is exactly as described by me.
[12:27] <Odra> irreverant: What command you want to execute?
[12:27] <gry> bekks: why not sudo?
[12:27] <ssta> irreverant: if all you want is to install firefox, just do: sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:27] <bekks> irreverant: Or in one step: sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:27] <irreverant> I just want to learn the commands and the reason behind them.
[12:27] <Odra> irreverant: Here I'll divide it in parts.
[12:27] <gry> irreverant: In Ubuntu, Firefox is already installed by default.
[12:27] <bekks> gry: Because for running apt-get, it is unnecessarry to run sudo -i
[12:27] <gry> bekks: that's why one does not use sudo -i, no?
[12:27] <Odra> firefox is what you want to install. install is what you want to do. apt-get is what you need to call. sudo is what you need for it to work. The password comes later.
[12:28] <Auzy> also netforce_  One VERY important thing, PPTP will ONLY work if the target network has a different IP range to the one you are at.. So, if you use 192.168.1.X at work, you can't use that at home.. Because, your computer wont know which network the data should be sent to
[12:28] <irreverant> Odra: thank you. I can understand parts
[12:28] <zorael> Trying to install xtables-addons-dkms but it fails with 'make[1]: *** No rule to make target `am--refresh'.  Stop.'  Ideas?
[12:28] <bekks> gry: For running apt-get, you need sudo apt-get only, not sudo -i; apt-get
[12:28] <irreverant> so there like declarations
[12:28] <Odra> DUDE
[12:28] <gry> bekks: I was just wondering what you recommend to use sudo -i for. :-)
[12:28] <Odra> JUST USE THE SOFTWARE CENTER D:
[12:29] <Auzy> yes.. or that
[12:29] <netforce_> thank you Auzy!
[12:29] <irreverant> Look i'm coming from a windows environment and reading everything I can.
[12:29] <bekks> gry: I just recommend sudo -i instead of sudo sh; su - :)
[12:29] <irreverant> That's no better than just being lazy.
[12:29] <Odra> irreverant: SUDO MAKES YOU ADMIN. There. Said it.
[12:29] <mbutubuntu> hello folks, I'm going crazy to access the "panel" menu to add indicators in ubuntu 12.04... I've tried super+alt+rClick but it doesn't work...
[12:29] <ssta> W4sp: it's not quite the same (very close though).  See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1128821/
[12:29] <schnuffle> irreverant: the man command gives you all info for a command man sudo
[12:29] <Odra> irreverant: Can you program?
[12:29] <bekks> irreverant: Then use sudo apt-get only, instead of sudo whatever :)
[12:29] <gry> irreverant: welcome. The help.ubuntu.com website should be of great help if you get a bit of time and decide to have a read in non-interactive environment at a point. :-)
[12:30] <mbutubuntu> I've aso tried other keys/click combinations as seen here (http://askubuntu.com/questions/125891/panel-settings-not-appearing-on-right-click-in-gnome) withouth success
[12:30] <mbutubuntu> have you got any idea?!
[12:30] <Odra> It works like this. void sudo (command) { if(password is right) admin.execute(command); else beep; } // Sudo in a nutshell
[12:30] <Derpian> I need to copy a folder to /opt but cannot, I tried sudo su but no luck. any ideas?
[12:30] <Auzy> irreverant, Ignore this discussion then.. there are a hundred different ways to do the same thing.. Just give them a try.. You'll pick it up easy.. But, most things you can do in GUI.. Its worth learning to get around in bash, but, if you can't use bash, it actually makes you more valuable as a feature requester actually
[12:30] <irreverant> Haha! I have read a ish load now I have questions about each argument and how it works.... I even tried building my own distro but what is written in books is different than what is practical knowledge.
[12:30] <gry> mbutubuntu: Alt + click works for me.
[12:31] <gry> mbutubuntu: Alt + right click, that is.
[12:31] <schnuffle> Derpian: paste the command line that failed
[12:31] <Odra> I am not even sure he wants to install anything D:
[12:31] <irreverant> Yes, I used to program.
[12:31] <Auzy> yeah.. then you know..
[12:31] <W4sp> ssta: Thanks for the output on pastebin. Please see what I wrote. I did not write what you typed in, I said 'sudo sh' and after authorisation 'su -'.
[12:32] <Odra> I program too. I just made something that doesnt work on mono.
[12:32] <W4sp> ssta: Just scoll up and review.
[12:32] <irreverant> Well here's the damn thing I programmed learning pascal, cobol, fortran, basic and c
[12:32] <ssta> W4sp: the diff is still the same
[12:33] <Odra> irreverant: I only know C++ and C# and I still know how sudo works.
[12:33] <irreverant> havent done it in a long time that I've forgotten an ish load and find it much more useful just asking the fundamental basics and then expanding on those topics.
[12:33] <Derpian> schnuffle: cp eclipse /opt and I get: cp: omitting directory `eclipse'
[12:33] <irreverant> Haha!
[12:33] <mbutubuntu> gry, it doesn't work... o.0
[12:33] <irreverant> Sorry....
[12:33] <Auzy> Odra, Oh, the missing window thing.. could be a lot of things.. Once in a class, I mixed up my Main function argument parameters, took an entire lesson before we realised the compiler wasn't buggy
[12:33] <irreverant> Apparently doing things in windows has affected me.
[12:34] <Odra> irreverant: Its like a callback method. You send the command to sudo and it makes sure the command runs on admin mode.
[12:34] <ssta> the compiler is almost never buggy :)
[12:34] <Odra> Auzy: But it doesnt make sense.
[12:34] <irreverant> i hope your joking that the compiler is almost never buggy! :)
[12:35] <ssta> irreverant: if you're a programmer and you think you've found a compiler bug, it's almost never true...
[12:35] <Odra> Unless System.Windows.Forms isnt really for "windows" but for "Windows"
[12:35] <Auzy> after 1 hour, having a tutor and 2 other people, we were almost convinced.... But it really isn't
[12:35] <Odra> But if it was a windows only windows, where is System.Linux? Why isnt it on Microsoft.Windows.Forms instead
[12:36] <Auzy> Odra, btw, I think Mono isn't the same as Windows forms .net .. I might be wrong.. Never bothered with Mono personally
[12:36] <Odra> Auzy: But it can run the program. Just terribly.
[12:36] <Auzy> You'll work it out..
[12:36] <Odra> Why would it not be the same windows.forms?
[12:36] <Odra> What is the point of abstracting .net if you arent implementing it D:
[12:37] <Auzy> I'm not sure if it is or not.. If it compiles though, I'm wrong..
[12:37] <Odra> Maybe my ubuntu version and mono versions are out of date.
[12:37] <Odra> Auzy: I didnt compile it on mono-develop
[12:37] <shinao1_> Did someone call?
[12:38] <Odra> Auzy: Maybe thats the problem.
[12:38] <Auzy> just guessing, but, I know there was some talk that only Novell had the patent licenses for some windows stuff (that whole patent sharing debacle).. Are you running it in Terminal?
[12:38] <Auzy> I tried it once, and I needed to use GTK .net
[12:38] <Auzy> or something else..
[12:39] <Odra> I'm running it through the command mono <executable here>
[12:39] <Odra> And its only half-assedly working.
[12:39] <Odra> Everything seems to work fine, except the GUI
[12:39] <Auzy> but, was never sure about the cross platform compatibility. Hence,  why I switched to QT
[12:39] <Odra> Which is 99% of everything btw.
[12:40] <Auzy> apparently, it should support forms.. but better off asking in #mono
[12:41] <neohashi> I did something stupid in an attempt to get my ebanking to work.. installed oracle java7 <- now I can't remove it again :/
[12:41] <Odra> Auzy: Is there a rule where if I compile it using MSVS it doesnt work on mono?
[12:41] <bekks> neohashi: Why not? And how did you install it?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> neohashi:  a great many people use Oracle Java.
[12:42] <october82> hi all
[12:42] <october82> anyone use bumblebee?
[12:42] <Auzy> I dunno Odra.. Don't know enough about it.. Better to ask the guys in #mono.. At the time, there was no windows.forms for Linux (years ago I think I tried last).. But, forums are saying there are now
[12:42] <Odra> october82: I prefer optimus prime
[12:42] <october82> i don't know how to install it correctly
[12:42] <october82> Odra, xD
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/136171/ubuntu-12-04-bumblebee-hdmi Perhaps october82 .
[12:43] <schnuffle> october82: or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> !info bumblebee
[12:43] <october82> yeah, but this wiki don't work for me
[12:44] <october82> schnuffle,
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> and the issue/problem is what exactly october82 ? error messages of any kind?
[12:44] <gry> mbutubuntu: did you figure out the panel properties?
[12:44] <neohashi> I did a apt-get install oracle-java7-installer via some ppa .. now even after removal java -version still tells me it is oracle java.
[12:45] <october82> yes, Dr_Willis error messages, "can't access GPU" like this
[12:45] <neohashi> tried installing openjdk hoping it would overwrite it
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> neohashi:  you should be able to install the other javas and they will set them selves up to be the default java.
[12:45] <OMGUBUNTU> Hello
[12:45] <gry> hi OMGUBUNTU
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> neohashi:  http://suhothayan.blogspot.com/2012/04/change-default-java-installation-used.html
[12:46] <OMGUBUNTU> hey gry
[12:46] <Derpian> got my eclipse IDE working
[12:46] <Auzy> needs more caps..
[12:46] <OMGUBUNTU> CAPS?
[12:46] <Auzy> Your nick.. Nevermind..
[12:46] <OMGUBUNTU> lol
[12:47] <dwakar> what are unity lenses actually? how can i use those?
[12:48] <OMGUBUNTU> in the menu
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  when you click on the Big button at the top left.. at the bottom of that window are the differnt search lenses.
[12:48] <OMGUBUNTU> there the things at the bottom of the menu
[12:48] <OMGUBUNTU> applications, files, music ext lens
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  askubuntu.com as a large list of addational lens not in the default repos.
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  a Must get lens is the 'askubuntu' lens.
[12:49] <dwakar> Dr_Willis: I installed wikipedia lens but cant use it
[12:49] <CynepCupon> anyone know if NVIDIA graphics cards are better than ATI RADEON?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  wikipedia lens works for me.. or it did the other day.
[12:49] <bonhoeffer> i upgraded to 12.04, but can't boot now -- i'm checking the filesystem now and no errors, i have a unetbootin live cd usb, can i use that to repair things
[12:49] <CynepCupon> basicly trying to game in WINE
[12:49] <october82> http://pastebin.com/e9PcC3wH
[12:49] <dwakar> how do you lanch it
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38772/what-lenses-for-unity-are-available
[12:49] <bonhoeffer> my error on boot is glibc_2.14 not found
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  same as any other lens.. click big button at top left.. click on the lense to use.. type in pattern
[12:50] <bonhoeffer> produces general error mounting filesystems
[12:50] <bonhoeffer> i'm in a maintenance shell now
[12:50] <Auzy> CynepCupon, That's a loaded question.. Most people will say Nvidia is better (including Valve, who are working on Steam).. BUT, Linus hates Nvidia, because they use a closed source driver
[12:50] <treaverhoerig> Can you hear me now?
[12:50] <dwakar> Dr_Willis: where are these lenses at in the dash window
[12:50] <gry> TrevMyster: hi.
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  at the bottom of the window.. a whold row of icons..
[12:51] <CynepCupon> Auzy: they both used closed source drivers
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  perhaps a check of Youtube for 'unity lens' may show
[12:51] <purplefool> how can i make my display not show my screen as a laptop?
[12:51] <Auzy> CynepCupon, Basically, use whatever GPU brand you prefer.. These days, both ATI and Nvidia are making pretty decent hardware.
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  after installing new lens i think you need to log out/back in for them to appear
[12:52] <CynepCupon> Auzy: i can't get my AMD Fusion working properly enough to game in ubuntu, stuck at 20-30fps
[12:52] <CynepCupon> i have "hybrid" ati graphics.
[12:52] <CynepCupon> i'm using fglrx
[12:52] <dwakar> Dr_Willis: no it hasn't only general search, applications, music and videos no wikipedia lens
[12:52] <october82> http://pastebin.com/e9PcC3wH <<--- any help?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  have you logged out since you installed the new lenss?
[12:53] <Auzy> CynepCupon, ATI have an open source driver.. But, depends on the hardware.. I think Fusion support in Linux is recent though, What game?
[12:53] <dwakar> Dr_Willis: I have to?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> dwakar:  after installing new lens i think you need to log out/back in for them to appear  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<  I said i think you do....
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> perhaps some day all this logging out/back in will get 'fixed' :)
[12:54] <CynepCupon> Auzy: just Day of Defeat: Source
[12:54] <CynepCupon> i checked by booting windows and getting 60-90fps
[12:54] <Auzy> CynepCupon, in Wine though ?
[12:55] <CynepCupon> yes, wine using Play On Linux
[12:55] <bonhoeffer> my big question is if i can use the live cd to upgrade, rather than install a whole new os
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  the alternative cd - can be used as a upgrade repository
[12:55] <bonhoeffer> because the upgrade online caused this problem
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> the desktop cd. cant.
[12:55] <CynepCupon> i was thinking to return the computer since i kept it new looking
[12:55] <CynepCupon> and get an Nvidia one
[12:55] <Auzy> CynepCupon,  Wine isn't fully optimised (and, some of the API isn't at all).. Good news though, Valve have confirmed they are releasing Steam for Linux, and that they have L4D2 working on Linux well already
[12:55] <CynepCupon> Steam is developing linux native client?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> CynepCupon:  they have been developing it for some time.
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> eventually they may even release it. :)
[12:56] <bonhoeffer> Dr_Willis: got it - what do you recommend i do to fix my: version glibc_2.14  not found error => general error mounting filesystems
[12:56] <dwakar> Dr_Willis: it worked after logout thanks
[12:56] <Auzy> Yes.. that is 100% confirmed now... Its the first time I actually feel that "year of the Linux" might be believable
[12:56] <CynepCupon> Auzy, will it matter if i have ATI or nvidia if they release steam for linux?
[12:56] <bonhoeffer> i have the live cd and am in a maintence shell
[12:56] <october82> i finished L4D2 long time ago...
[12:56] <purplefool> ok, i unplugged and moved my computer a couple of days ago, and just plugged it in again and have major video problems.  is this where i would get help or do i need to go somewhere else?
[12:56] <bonhoeffer> i would rather not lose my files and start over with a fresh install
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  when in doubt.. MAKE backups.
[12:57] <Auzy> CynepCupon, Valve said they prefer Nvidia.. But, technically, the API is mostly the same.. Just depends what they optimise for
[12:57] <bonhoeffer> sure -- which i can do from the live cd
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  yep. You can.
[12:57] <Odra> GUH
[12:57] <Odra> Guddamnit
[12:57] <bonhoeffer> so are you saying your recommendation is to boot from live cd, backup everything and re-install everything
[12:57] <schnuffle> purplefool: you're a the correct place
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> glibc not found.. sounds  nasty.
[12:57] <Odra> FINE, I will code crossplatform >:U
[12:58] <CynepCupon> Auzy: what about AMD vs Intel?
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  any imporntant files.. should be backed up..
[12:58] <CynepCupon> i have a lenovo, i was thinking of getting an asus
[12:58] <Auzy> CynepCupon, They haven't said anything.. Between AMD and Intel though, its more relevent to worry about motherboard compatibility
[12:58] <Odra> I am a teenager programmer and I want to be popular making software nobody on their right mind would use
[12:58] <purplefool> then i would like to know how i can change the display setting to not show my monitor as a laptop
[12:58] <Odra> I need all the platforms I can get
[12:58] <bonhoeffer> sorry, i'm not being clear -- i'm trying to get my system to boot.
[12:59] <Odra> Can I use mono to develop to phones?
[12:59] <CynepCupon> Auzy: do you run linux on a laptop?
[12:59] <Auzy> Both have their strong points CynepCupon.. AMD I believe is more cost effective currently (especially if overclocking).. BUT, Intel are faster at the moment
[12:59] <CynepCupon> Auzy: which would you advise? Nvida + Intel, or AMD + ATI?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Odra:  from what i hear about mono.. it should be avoided. :)
[12:59] <CynepCupon> i'm trying to ditch MacOSX
[13:00] <CynepCupon> and the macbook
[13:00] <Auzy> I used to work at an Apple Premium reseller CynepCupon :P
[13:00] <Odra> Dr_Willis: But without mono, .net is just a pile of ms shit D:
[13:00] <CynepCupon> Apple uses NVIDIA
[13:00] <Odra> The whole point of mono is making .net work like it should
[13:00] <Auzy> I use Nvidia + intel, and I'm happy.. But, I'd rather support AMD.. problem is, Intel are better atm
[13:00] <Dr_Willis>  .net is also somthing that should be avoided. :)
[13:00] <CynepCupon> i don't want to overclock, i just want a linux gaming laptop
[13:00] <bonhoeffer> so dr willis, do you recommend i repair or replace my non-booting new upgrade of 12.04
[13:00] <Odra> But I am a C# programmer
[13:00] <Odra> How am I going to avoid .net???
[13:01] <Odra> I AM NOT AVOIDING C#
[13:01] <CynepCupon> well son of a mother duck.... i got GREEKED!!!
[13:01] <CynepCupon> now i have to return this beast and get the intel one
[13:01] <Auzy> Odra, Patents are possibly an issue too ....
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  if you can repair it faster then you can reinstall.. I dont know whats broken and what to fix. I keep my home on its own partition (hard drive actually) so its easy/fast for me to reinstall.
[13:01] <Auzy> Why CynepCupon? The Fusion isn't really for high end gamin though
[13:02] <Odra> Auzy: What patents?
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> Odra:   id hope you have other programing skills..
[13:02] <bonhoeffer> that is a good idea -- thanks, i'll do that . . . so if i want to repair or try to repair, you recommend getting a repair cd
[13:02] <bonhoeffer> ?
[13:02] <CynepCupon> Day of Defeat: Source isn't high end, Auzy
[13:02] <Auzy> Microsofts.. That's why Novell and Microsoft have a patent agreement..
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> It pays to have a very broad set of skills.
[13:02] <Auzy> yeah CynepCupon.. But do remember, Wine will NEVER run at full performance..
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  the normal live cds are often used to 'repair' messed up systems. but it depends on how its messed up
[13:02] <neohashi> Dr_Willis: Thanks for the link. update-alternatives did the trick
[13:02] <n2deep> Hi, my custom udev rules are broken now on 12.04 since the recent udev update was pushed out to everyone
[13:03] <Odra> Dr_Willis: I can program in C++. But its absolutely worthless when compared to C# in terms of application development.
[13:03] <schnuffle> Odra: for real cross platform development mono is a poor choice
[13:03] <CynepCupon> Auzy? is virtualbox better? VMWare? Darwin?
[13:03] <n2deep> can anyone help me troubleshoot
[13:03] <Auzy> Odra, Try QT.. Its a lot easier..
[13:03] <schnuffle> +1 Auzy
[13:03] <Odra> Why dos mono even exists...
[13:03] <Auzy> C++ is only as good as the framework..
[13:04] <CynepCupon> Auzy, you said you're happy with your intel + nvidia, does it run games in linux?
[13:04] <schnuffle> Odra: because someone thought it's worth porting it to linux
[13:04] <Auzy> Odra, Mono exists because C# does work on it.. Thats like saying why does GCC exist? There can be different .Net implementations
[13:05] <Odra> Auzy: Then I'm developping in mono.
[13:05] <Odra> Since C# does work on it.
[13:05] <Auzy> CynepCupon, Yeah.. But I only play Amnesia at the moment (and, it is a bit jumpy). There are some natively ported games (if you got the humblebundle, you already have a huge number of them)
[13:05] <bonhoeffer> because the upgrade online caused this problem due to a glibc_2.14 not found error
[13:05] <TrevMyster> The Deluge torrent client keeps just randomly stopping downloads to 0?
[13:06] <CynepCupon> will openSUSE run games better?
[13:06] <Auzy> CynepCupon, Nvidia and ATI got lots of optimisation help from Valve though, so, expect Gaming in the near future to get much better. If there are high end targets for developers to optimise for, it accellerates development
[13:06] <Auzy> CynepCupon, Doubt it.. You could try WineX if its still around
[13:06] <schnuffle> Odra: that's fine if you like it but from a develpment point of view, the decision would favor other arguments. It's not "I know only one language, so I use it" it's "which is the best language for my problem"
[13:07] <bonhoeffer> when booting with the live cd, how can i see where my /dev/sda is mounted?
[13:07] <Auzy> CynepCupon, Although, Amnesia runs poorly, even in windows..
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  mount command,
[13:07] <bonhoeffer> i see my usb drive in Media, and i can see the sda drive with fdisk
[13:07] <CynepCupon> where can i get humble bundle?
[13:07] <Odra> schnuffle: Ok, then. Give me your point of view on my circumstances.
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  if they are ibn Media. then they are  in /media/
[13:08] <bonhoeffer> Dr_willlis -- thanks!
[13:08] <Auzy> CynepCupon, Can't.. They are short time sales.. You can get many similar games from the Ubuntu software centre and Desura though
[13:08] <Auzy> To be honest, windows is still better at gaming at the moment.. But, things will change rapidly (Valve actually reckons Left 4 dead 2 ran quicker on Linux)
[13:09] <schnuffle> Odra: Up to now the major point seems to be crossplatform ability and for that C# is a bad choice
[13:09] <bonhoeffer> so mount doesn't show them mounted, but the explorer does show the drives there
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  they ntfs? or vfat? or ext2/3/4 ?
[13:09] <bonhoeffer> for some reason, my mouse doesn't work on the windows with the live cd 12.04 instance
[13:09] <bonhoeffer> should be ext
[13:09] <Odra> schnuffle: It's not just crossplatform. It's crossplatform application development.
[13:09] <CynepCupon> well..... i'm totally GREEKED, Auzy.... i CAN'T return the laptop!!
[13:09] <Auzy> Odra, You could use cross-platform GUI libraries though anyway I'd imagine..
[13:09] <bonhoeffer> says system is Linux
[13:09] <CynepCupon> only unopened boxes are accepted
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  may be in .gvfs
[13:10] <bonhoeffer> and extended
[13:10] <Auzy> CynepCupon, You have a good system.. Worst comes to worst, dual boot..
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> extended is partition type. and 'linux' can be any of the ext* filesystems. You could just mount it  by hand somewhere bonhoeffer
[13:10] <schnuffle> Odra: then I would go with QT or GTK+ and C++ or Python for prototyping
[13:11] <CynepCupon> i have dual boot... for steam.
[13:11] <bonhoeffer> Dr_Willis: so should i mount it again -- mount -t ext4 \dev\sda \mnt\my_mount
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> Python seems very good answer for a lot of things. ;)
[13:11] <Auzy> My recommendation is, donate the money you would spend on Windows 8, to linux projects, and just don't buy windows 8.. thats what I'm doing.. The problem is, there are few Linux developers who can afford to work full time.. We need to aim for me
[13:11] <schnuffle> Odra: but other people would choose different
[13:11] <bonhoeffer> i'm guessing ext4
[13:11] <Auzy> more rather
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  it would NOT be 'sda' it May be 'sda1' or any other # for the 1
[13:11] <bonhoeffer> oh -- yes, i want sda1
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> sudo fdisk -l, should show.. or sudo blkid
[13:11] <schnuffle> Dr_Willis: +1
[13:11] <bonhoeffer> id is 83 and system is linux
[13:12] <CynepCupon> Auzy, i don't think this computer is using the dedicated graphics for it's.
[13:12] <bonhoeffer> how do i know what to mount it as -- should i guess ext4 and see if that works?
[13:12] <Odra> schnuffle: But the thing is, from what I remember, c++ is a pain for application development. Even on a single platform. And I dont benefit at all from the C++ language.
[13:12] <Auzy> CynepCupon, My first laptop sucked.. I took up coding instead :P
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  theres -t auto  ;)
[13:12] <Auzy> Odra, Depends on the framework..
[13:13] <CynepCupon>  Auzy, what does that mean?
[13:13] <bonhoeffer> Dr_Willis: leave off the -t alltogether?
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> bonhoeffer:  i think that defaults to '-t auto' then
[13:13] <gabi> buenos dias
[13:13] <CestSebastian_> hey guys, i need some help with a file, i can't seam to write or read my grub.cfg, this is a ls -al output for the file: -????????? ? ?      ?           ?            ? grub.cfg
[13:14] <Auzy> Odra, QT is comparable to Cocoa.. Very easy to code with, the GUI is separated from the code, and, they have abstracted a lot.. Last QT thing I coded, I only needed to make 1 minor function change, and it worked windows. linux and OSX
[13:14] <bonhoeffer> got it -- Dr_Willis, that works great
[13:14] <schnuffle> Odra: then use python which has bindings to QT and GTK+ and is easy to use
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> CestSebastian_:  filesystem is currupted. id say fsck it from a live cd.
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> CestSebastian_:  hope the HD is not failing.
[13:14] <CestSebastian_> Dr_Willis, yeah, i hope so too, thanks
[13:14] <Auzy> Odra, People are even working on porting QT to android, and I think they already have a beta out
[13:15] <echo501> Hello
[13:15] <echo501> Anyone wake here??
[13:15] <schnuffle> echo501: yes
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> you want 1000+ people to say yes? or No? ;)
[13:15] <echo501> Thank the lord!!!
[13:15] <echo501> :)
[13:15] <echo501> I need a little advice
[13:16] <echo501> I've buggered up my ubuntu 11.10 install
[13:16] <Auzy> Odra, in addition, I don't think Windows 8 will foster heavy Windows development in the future.. There have been many high profile programmers who are giving Linux a serious go because they aren't confident either.. Windows 8 is the reason I am giving Linux a serious try again (even though it lacks in some areas). If Linux goes mainstream though, C# will mostly die..
[13:16] <Skeeter-> resize2fs: New size too large to be expressed in 32 bits
[13:16] <Auzy> At least, Windows.forms will..
[13:16] <echo501> Dr_Willis:  No really, just I've been in IRC rooms that were "dark" over a weekend
[13:16] <echo501> :)
[13:17] <Odra> Auzy: But I thought mono was already ported to android
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> echo501:  freenode had some server issues over the last few days i belive.
[13:17] <AuroraX> google fair 1st prize was scammed??? can someone explain me this?  http://i46.tinypic.com/2daynf7.png
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> AuroraX:  doubt if its OT for Ubuntu SUpport channel.
[13:17] <species_4981> echo501: we're still waiting for you to actually tell us something that we can advise on ... do you want some help with something?
[13:18] <echo501> so ....  I've accidentally deleted a link file and it's hosed my server.
[13:18] <echo501> The entire server will not respond.  no ls nothing...
[13:18]  * Dr_Willis waits for the ACTUAL problem/question/file.....
[13:18] <echo501> I need to acceess the server and re-created the link file
[13:18] <yeats> echo501: "link file"?
[13:19] <schnuffle> echo501: report exactly what you have deleted and how?
[13:19] <Auzy> Odra, Maybe it is.. dunno.. Qt is too though.. Either way, since Mono works in Windows, Linux and OSX, its probably better to code for Mono anyway as a target
[13:19] <Auzy> and.. looks like you are right
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> 'I deleted  ___________, Now My Server wont boot, how do i replace it'   -> live cd - is one way...
[13:19] <echo501> This file libc.so.6 was created by using a ln -s command to libc-2.13.so
[13:20] <echo501> I deleted it by accident..  Doh...  and need to recreate i
[13:20] <echo501> it
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> You were manually making soft links to the libc file?
[13:20] <Caelo> Auzy, I both agree and disagree with you :D Windows 8 will have heavy windows development but the current programmers will also start looking at how to make their apps crossplatform. Something Windoes developers really havent been doing. I mainly program using C# (with mono), but lately I have started looking at C++ and QT as well.
[13:20] <CynepCupon> Auzy: if i upgrade the kernel to 3.4.0 will this help gaming?
[13:20] <echo501> (yes, I've already been chastised by my developer friends...
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> echo501:  boot live cd, get to a shell, remake the link.
[13:21] <schnuffle> echo501: ohoho, have you physical access to the server?
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> if you deleted the LINK..   if you deleted the file. you will need to chroot and reinstall the package.
[13:21] <echo501> Yes I have physical access to the hardware but cannot figure how to get back into thte OS
[13:22] <echo501> I read a littl about chroot but fail to understand
[13:22] <schnuffle> Dr_Willis: told you, you'll need to boot a rescue system or a live cd
[13:22] <siert> hello there, I forgot the name of a utility which was monitoring desktop configurations and is able to save the configuration and deploy it to all other users... anybody any idea ?
[13:23] <echo501> right...   ok will DL the live cd.
[13:23] <Ubuntubruger7> ?question anyone able to help with some questions regarding a NAS running ubuntu server 12 and power management?
[13:23] <bekks> Ubuntubruger7: Not without knowing the specific questions.
[13:23] <schnuffle> echo501: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1692144 explains chroot for repairing grub
[13:24] <echo501> Thanks all will give an update later!!   Most appreciate the help..
[13:24] <species_4981> good luck echo501
[13:25] <Ubuntubruger7> bekks: I'll explain: I just set op a NAS with a single 1 Tb Seagate disk containing both OS and data. Everything is working great via AFP shares in my Mac environment...now the NAS will only be used sporadically throughout the day, so how do i use power management efficiently on this type of machine. (i'm a noob at this)
[13:25] <Ubuntubruger7> bekks: I'm thinking about spinning down the drive, suspending the machine and so on...
[13:26] <Auzy> CynepCupon, Every Linux kernel upgrade generally does.. Especially since Fusion is relatively new..
[13:26] <bekks> Ubuntubruger7: Just power it off when not using it? :)
[13:26] <Auzy> CynepCupon, But, the overhead here is Wine.. Wine is incredibly inefficient
[13:27] <schnuffle> Ubuntubruger7: http://www.dvuckovic.com/blog/diy-nas-ubuntu
[13:28] <Auzy> CynepCupon, Problem is, Windows and Linux are different.. When Wine translates a program, it is already running Linux, and Windows isn't exactly the same.. Commands need to be translated, and they may not be exact
[13:30] <Auzy> CynepCupon, Each instruction needs translating, and Further more, some graphics commands may be directly translatable into linux, but, it may take Wine developers a lot of tweaking to optimise the commands to run efficiently .
[13:30] <CestSebastian_> Dr_Willis, fsck says "NTFS partition /dev/sda1 was processed successfully.", grub.cfg still not readable or writable
[13:30] <CestSebastian_> /dev/sda1 is where my grub
[13:30] <CestSebastian_> is *
[13:31] <Guest19202> any distro for an 1.4 GHz / 512 Ram computer? Ubuntu / Xubuntu Lubuntu runs very slow
[13:31] <_skpl> Guest19202: try puppy linux.
[13:32] <Auzy> Guest19202, Atom? Or Pentium?
[13:32] <Guest19202> Pentium M
[13:32] <Auzy> Guest19202, Throwing more RAM in might make a huge difference.. Some DDR2 RAM is also probably  uber cheap. still.
[13:33] <Auzy> guest19202, the slowdown is probably mainly due to graphics card, or/and insufficient RAM..
[13:33] <Guest19202> Via Unichrome
[13:34] <Auzy> oh.. Used to have an S3.. No comment.. Maybe start off with RAM (check the price, it may be cheap). BUT, imho, the S3 probably doesn't help..
[13:35] <Ubuntubruger7> schnuffle: great link! Thanks! I'm just still wondering - is it even possible to sucessfully spindown the OS disk? isn't the os constantly writing or reading some kind of data even if the NAS isn't accessed? Just asking because it seems to be a constant theme of discussion on forums
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> CestSebastian_:  grub is on the MBR of the hard drive. Your /boot/ dir/partiion is where the files are at.. I doubt if your grub configs are on a NTFS.
[13:36] <schnuffle> Ubuntubruger7: it is, best way would be not to run a full system like ubuntu but more something that runs entirely in ram
[13:36] <CynepCupon> Auzy: how can i check my FPS with glxgears?
[13:37] <User_420> Does anyone know of a file sharing tool, like limewire, for linux?
[13:37] <CynepCupon> Nvidia guy claims 450, i forgot what mine said.
[13:37] <Ubuntubruger7> schnuffle: well, would it be sensible to run the ubuntu server 12 from a 2 gb usb stick? with the purpose of spinning down the actual hdd?
[13:37] <Auzy> Ubuntubruger7, Btw, I would recommend trying a distro like Amahi as a NAS.. (Set mine up in the past)
[13:37] <Auzy> CynepCupon GLXGears is useless..
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> !p2p| User_420
[13:38] <jcklk_> Hi, why do games lag on Linux when they don't on Windows?
[13:38] <CynepCupon> Auzy: yes but i'd just like to compare mine, i saw what it said once, but can't remember the command.
[13:38] <User_420> thanks guys
[13:38] <CynepCupon> do you know it?
[13:38] <schnuffle> Ubuntubruger7: it would already be better but using a distro that is excatly fitted for the purpose is much better
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> jcklk_  because they are written for windows, complain @ game developers
[13:38] <Auzy> I think you need to install it.. But, it is useless.. Because, it only tests a very minor set of commands.. And, its easy to cheap (even accidentally)
[13:39] <jcklk_> MonkeyDust: No they work fine for everyone else.
[13:39] <Auzy> jcklk_, Valve is porting steam to Linux, which gives Nvidia, ATI and Linux developers  a few high profile games to optimise for..
[13:39] <jcklk_> I think even the developers use Linux.
[13:39] <schnuffle> Ubuntubruger7: http://www.openmediavault.org/, http://www.diynas.com/category/software/operating-systems/ubuntu-linux/
[13:40] <jcklk_> Auzy: I'm not even playing a high profile game.
[13:40] <jcklk_> It's a pretty light game I want to play but there's stuttering and general lag.
[13:40] <Auzy> jcklk_, What game? I have noticed games still lag a bit more in Linux than windows.. But, High profile games provide the best test cases, because they exagerate a problems more
[13:41] <jcklk_> Auzy: Teeworlds.
[13:41] <Auzy> it can also be that the game hasn't been properly optimised for Linux (Amnesia for instance works far better in Windows)
[13:41] <zachP> Hi all, new here & to Linux based systems. Just installed Ubuntu Server 12.04 for a home server project. Need help as command line seems to not respond. Thanks
[13:41] <Auzy> It's one thing to port a game to Linux (that is easy), but, optimisation is a completely different ballgame..
[13:41] <Auzy> zachP, What do you mean not respond?
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> zachP  what command?
[13:42] <CynepCupon> Auzy: know what this means? XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0"
[13:42] <CynepCupon>       after 2448 requests (2448 known processed) with 0 events remaining."
[13:42] <jcklk_> Auzy: Do you think it's missing drivers?
[13:43] <zachP> I am in the command line, I just installed a text editor (vim-nox) per a tutorial I am following. The last thing it printed was "Idconfig deferred processing now taking place. Current status: 61 updates [-4]" but that was a couple hours ago. Now I can't shut down, restart, run ifconfig or anything.
[13:43] <jcklk_> I generally think Linux drivers don't work as well as on Windows either. My network connection seems to be quite poor.
[13:43] <zachP> actually sorry I need to run this command: vi /etc/network/interfaces
[13:43] <Auzy> Thats true jcklk_ .. But, it can also come down to certain devices causing problems
[13:44] <Auzy> zachP, try typing :q!
[13:44] <schnuffle> zachP: type :q
[13:44] <zachP> I tried those. Doesn't work :(
[13:44] <Auzy> Try Ctrl+Alt+del?
[13:44] <yeats> zachP: when it doesn't work, what happens? is there an error message?
[13:44] <schnuffle> zachP: then ctrl+alt+f2 should give you  an ew console
[13:45] <Auzy> zachP, or Ctrl+C
[13:45] <zachP> No. And my username isn't even on the command line. Just has a ">" and when I press enter just prints a new line
[13:45] <yeats> zachP: Ctrl-C
[13:45] <schnuffle> type ;
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> Auzy  ctrl c puts a proces to the background, it doesnt interrupt it
[13:45] <squaregoldfish> I'm trying to work out how to install a file named .../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S for debugging. apt-file search turns up a blank, as goes my Google-fu. Can anyone help?
[13:45] <Auzy> Ctrl+Z does MonkeyDust
[13:45] <yeats> MonkeyDust: that's Ctrl-Z, no?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> Auzy  idd :)
[13:45] <jcklk_> Auzy: I guess I'll just use Windows to play it, but when I do my CPU usage goes up to 100% (is that a bad thing?), which is the reason I installed Ubuntu.
[13:45] <Auzy> Ctrl+C Kills..
[13:46] <zachP> Ok I just pressed CTRL-C and my username popped back up on the line :)
[13:46] <Auzy> jcklk_, thats not neccessarily.. If its CPU limited, then, it will go to 100%
[13:46] <Auzy> Could be poorly coded too..
[13:46] <schnuffle> zachP: you wrote a command which wasn't finished so the bash waited for more input
[13:46] <zachP> oh okay. Thanks guys that solved it.
[13:47] <Auzy> FYI.. if you press Ctrl+Z though, it backgrounds a process.. typing fg reactivates it (foreground)
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> fg 1 or so
[13:47] <Auzy> and, bg runs it in the background (Ctrl+z leaves it in a paused state)
[13:47] <zachP> Thanks for the quick and friendly help, I downloaded mIRC client and looked up the channel just specifically for this problem :) I certainly will return if I need more help.
[13:48] <Auzy> Night
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> mIRC? that's windows!!
[13:48] <amanSharma> I have blocked communication on http port (8080) and on https port  using default ufw firewall, still I can open websites ?
[13:48] <zachP> lol
[13:48] <zachP> I am on my Win7 laptop atm
[13:48] <jpds> amanSharma: It that outgoing or incoming blocks?
[13:49] <amanSharma> I am sure that its enabled
[13:49] <schnuffle> amanSharma: you blocke your ports then which doesn't forbid to contacts other IP on that ports. Just a guess
[13:49] <jpds> amanSharma: No, what are you trying to do?
[13:49] <colock> -quit
[13:49] <colock> quit
[13:50] <jpds> amanSharma: It sounds like you've blocked those ports for traffic going TO your machine.
[13:50] <amanSharma> jpds: I don't know if its incoming or outgoing because there's not argument to specify so.
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> colock  it's /quit
[13:50] <jpds> amanSharma: Meanwhile, it sounds like you're trying to block traffic coming FROM your machine.
[13:50] <Kyshtynbai> Guys, where grub should be isntalled, /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 when the following table is on my hdd:
[13:50] <amanSharma> jpds: so how do I block a port for incoming using ufw?
[13:50] <Kyshtynbai>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[13:50] <Kyshtynbai> /dev/sda1            2048   613087231   306542592   83  Linux
[13:50] <Kyshtynbai> /dev/sda2       613089278   625141759     6026241    5  Extended
[13:50] <Kyshtynbai> /dev/sda5       613089280   625141759     6026240   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[13:50] <FloodBot1> Kyshtynbai: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:51] <jpds> amanSharma: Put on paste.ubuntu.com the output of $ sudo ufw status verbose
[13:51] <amanSharma> jpds: ok
[13:52] <schnuffle> amanSharma: sudo ufw allow|deny [proto <protokoll>] [from <adresse> [port <port>]] [to <addresse> [port <port>]] , so it has arguments for incoming and outgoing
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> Kyshtynbai  you have an extended partition, that's good, my advice is to create a separate /home partition inside it, it's easiers for upgrades and reinstallations
[13:53] <luisis> hello
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> Howdies
[13:54] <amanSharma> jpds , schnuffle, http://pastebin.com/4nVQAAr2 as you can see in verbose status ports are blocked from everywhere
[13:55] <jpds> amanSharma: You're default rule for incoming connections is already to deny.
[13:55] <schnuffle> amanSharma: DENY IN means all your rules are for incoming
[13:55] <jpds> amanSharma: Default: deny (incoming).
[13:56] <jpds> amanSharma: So those IN rules are redundant.
[13:56] <amanSharma> schnuffle: then how the websites are opening?
[13:56] <jpds> amanSharma: That's an OUT rule.
[13:56] <schnuffle> amanSharma: that would be an OUT rule
[13:56] <schnuffle> :)
[13:56] <amanSharma> so how do I do that?
[13:56] <amanSharma> just block everything or some port incoming?
[13:57] <jpds> amanSharma: sudo ufw reject out http
[13:57] <schnuffle> amanSharma: Default: deny (incoming), allow (outgoing) means per default all incoming is blocked no nead for an extra rule
[13:57] <jpds> amanSharma: And you probably removing all those deny rules as they'd never been used.
[13:58] <October82> hello, it's normal to fail "optirun glxspheres"? if I run "optirun glxgears" works fine
[13:58] <amanSharma> jpds, schnuffle thanks for your time guys
[13:58] <schnuffle> amanSharma: you're welcome
[14:02] <Ubuntubruger7> thanks for the help everybody! I'll look into both amahi and openmediavault
[14:03] <Ubuntubruger7> anyone have practical experience with running either amahi or openmediavault from an usb stick on a server/nas?
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> that's lame, i forgot the alsamixer trick i always recommend on my own machine
[14:06] <solenskiner> Hello. I have some problem setting up apache+couchdb+ufw with freedns.afraid.org on Ubuntu 10.10. Could anyone help me troubleshoot my setup? More information here http://pastebin.com/hgSak8PJ
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> solenskiner  10.10 is no longer supported
[14:09] <maj> what could cause flash not working  even if its installed?
[14:09] <solenskiner> MonkeyDust, I am unable to upgrade due to zend server not installing correctly on newer versions
[14:09] <ironhalik> Hello - I've got a rather major problem in precise - every once in a while, theres an error causing all context menus and similiar to be drawn underneath windows - you can't rightclick on anything unless its the desktop
[14:10] <pb> hey guys.  lamer gamer here.. UO on ubuntu 12.04. doable?
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> !info zend
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> pb:  you mean the old old old game Ultima Online? or have they actually updated it recently?
[14:11] <pb> Dr_Willis: sure make me feel bad.. the MMORPG
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> pb:  checked the wine app database ?
[14:12] <maj> MonkeyDust:im upgrading to precise, you think it will fix my flash?
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> 'fix my flash' is often the sort of thing that no one can predict.. :)
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> maj  yeah, wait and see
[14:12] <pb> Dr_Willis: it will be in there? how do you check it please. first time using wine. and linux for that matter.. sowly learning. and all the online guides are a tad comprehensive
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> !wine
[14:12] <maj> Dr_willis: someone said before they gonna drop flash?
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> maj:  adobe is slowly phaeing out flash it seems..
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> maj:  i use a flashreplacer extension for firefox. I watch flash videos in VLC now :)
[14:13] <maj> Dr_Willis: any new projects besides gnash?
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> youtube also supports html5
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> maj:  i imagine it will be FLASH that will get replaced by better methods..
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> The death of all those old flash games. :)
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> and those Idiotic Banner ads that try to trick you into clicking them..
[14:15] <maj_> Dr_Willis:interesting addon lemme try that after upgrade
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> maj_:  i even use the flashreplacer or flash doenloader tools under windows. :)
[14:16] <maj_> Dr_Willis: its about time theres new alternatives to replace vunranle adobe stuff
[14:16] <maj_> +b
[14:17] <Munz> hi! the update have broken my system , it missed up my vedio card driver or something that i can only start my laptop when i remove the driver more over it made my laptop slower .... o! the processor fan is noisy without a driver!!!!! so please help!
[14:17] <solenskiner> I would really love some help troubleshooting my apache+couchdb+ufw with freedns.afraid.org setup. More information here http://pastebin.com/hgSak8PJ
[14:18] <Ormie> hm.. hello
[14:18] <L3top> Munz: lspci -nn | grep VGA   in a terminal please
[14:18] <Ormie> Whenever I log in as my user. How do I autorun a program on console?
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  auto run what exactly?
[14:18] <Ormie> tmux
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  and by console, you mean a 'terminal' ?
[14:18] <Munz> L3top : ok ... 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV620 [Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series] [1002:95c4]
[14:19] <Ormie> Dr_Willis: no. On the pure tty on Ubuntu Server
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  byobu is a tmux 'tweaked' that has a menu to enable itself to auto-run as a shell.
[14:19] <NewWorld> Ormie:  which terminal app do you use?
[14:19] <Ormie> ?
[14:19] <Ormie> what?
[14:19] <L3top> Munz: lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A2 | grep -i kernel
[14:19] <NewWorld> Ormie:  Konsole , xterm, gnome-terminal ,etc
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  try byobu (its tmux) and has that exact option in its F9 menu. :)
[14:20] <Ormie> hmm... ok
[14:20] <Ormie> so I do sudo apt-get install byobu?
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> plus it has other nicer themes.featres
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> yes...
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> unless its allready installed. ;)
[14:20] <Ormie> sir, yes, sir
[14:21] <maj_> Dr_Willis: by the way im very happy with 'sux' you recomend me, it can run every app i want, even nautilus with hiden files etc
[14:21] <pb> Dr_Willis: nice. found it. so I can install from there and all the necessary files will come along for the ride?
[14:21] <Ormie> Dr_Willis: what's this? tty1 and 2 is gone...
[14:21] <Munz> L3top : i get this ....Kernel driver in use: radeon
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  dont know what you mean.
[14:21] <Ormie> nvm.. i'll fix this
[14:21] <L3top> Munz: apt-cache policy fglrx | grep -i installed
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> pb:  you use wine to run the games installer.exe
[14:22] <Munz> L3top : Installed: (none)
[14:22] <pb> Dr_Willis: ty for introducing me to the DB
[14:22] <pb> very helpfull.
[14:23] <L3top> Ok... so Munz, you are using the native driver, not the proprietary one from AMD/ATI. Do you want to use the proprietary driver?
[14:23] <papna> I have a domain "foo.com" and currently sometimes I have to do "ssh -p 2222 foo.com" but I wish I could instead spell this "ssh x.foo.com". Is there a way for me to set this up?
[14:23] <pb> it's those little things that really matter. unfourtanly any user guides ive read to introduce me into linux covered wine.. :(
[14:24] <nibbler__>   papna: you can set up sshd on foo.com:22
[14:24] <Munz> L3TOP: i had to uninstall  the proprietary  in order to be able to start my laptop
[14:24] <papna> It would be preferable but not essential not to dedicate a new IP to x.foo.com
[14:24] <papna> nibbler__: It's already taken and does something different.
[14:24] <L3top> What happened when you tried to start with the proprietary Munz?
[14:25] <nibbler__> papna, then you can't - each port/ip tuple can be used for only one service. but you can configure your ssh client, so that "ssh foo" will know what to do. .sshrc or smth. like that i guess
[14:25] <Munz> L3top : the screen did not start!!!!
[14:25] <pb> oh shoot. so you install anything you need. but just open it with the wine installer.. ty for the help Ill direct any further comments to the correct channel.
[14:26] <Munz> L3top : it works once every 10 or some tries so i removed it when it started
[14:26] <L3top> Munz: I am asking what DID you see, did bios post? Did it get past grub? Did you see a splash screen?
[14:26] <glenn> how is a printer expert
[14:26] <papna> nibbler__: I'm thinking of setting up a VM to serve as x.foo.com.
[14:26] <Munz> L3top : nothing ... empty black , blank screen!!!
[14:27] <glenn> how can help me to share my brother 1450 to print from win7
[14:27] <nibbler__> papna, why not...
[14:28] <nibbler__> glenn, you need samba, and samba has all the documentation on how to share a printer for windows
[14:28] <Munz> L3top : sorry if i am not helping but it was like its still switched off ... nothing works despite some light indicators on the laptop
[14:28] <papna> nibbler__: Because it would have been nice if I didn't need to maintain a bunch of VMs for this. :)
[14:28] <L3top> Munz: you are telling me your bios didn't post. That I have difficulty believing. You need to be accurate with me. Did you TRY getting into grub (pressing shift repeatedly during boot)?
[14:28] <glenn> nibbler__, is have sambe and cups but he won't print from windows
[14:28] <nibbler__> papna, you can also bind multiple IPs to one host, and bind each service to one of the IPs only
[14:29] <Ormie> Hey Dr_Willis, byobu is very cool indeed. I can now see my username and my battery level too! Cool stuff. :-D
[14:29] <Munz> L3TOP : no i did not do anything else then starting the laptop when it does not work i was restarting it thats it
[14:29] <maj_> u gotta love proffessional unknown ubuntu packages to make life easy
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  yep. it used to be 'screen' tweaked a lot.. now they moved to TMUX. i think you can still tweak its configs by hand for more controll if you wanted.
[14:30] <glenn> how can helpe me to share a brother 1450 to print from win7
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  noticed here its actually showing a little 'Ubuntu logo' at the left. and a Cirle-arrow to show that i need to reboot for updates. :)
[14:30] <pb> !wine
[14:31] <maj_> glenn:someone already told you to use samba
[14:31] <compdoc> wine isnt perfect
[14:31] <Munz> L3TOP : it works every several tries .... and thats how i managed to remove the driver ... btw ... all of that happened after i updated the system 2 days ago
[14:31] <glenn> maj i hve samba but  samba is to share files not for printing printing is by cups
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> cups i think uses samba
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> or it can use samba at least. :)
[14:32] <nibbler__> cups uses samba to print to windows-connectec printers. samba uses cups to let windows machines print to linux printers
[14:32] <maj_> 2min remaining upgrade to precise, wish me luck with flash :p
[14:32] <glenn> nibbler can you help me
[14:33] <nibbler__> glenn, i have no clue about the windows side of this, so sadly no
[14:33] <Ormie> Dr_Willis: what?
[14:33] <Ormie> Dr_Willis: what does that mean?
[14:33] <zachP> Hi guys, I am back, anyone got time for another Ubunutu Server newbie question (and or general networking)? Thanks.
[14:33] <nibbler__> !ask | zachP
[14:33] <DarsVaeda> how can I set a file open with default application when it is not in the list and there is no "browse applications" option?
[14:34] <Ormie> zachP, i do
[14:34] <devtekalpha> Im installing ubuntu(studio) and theres some grey boxs on the right hand side of the screen. Just plain grey like a menu is meant to be there. Is this normal
[14:34] <zachP> I am changing IP to static in the tutorial. tutorial is not detailed enough. in /etc/network/interfaces I am putting in the following info under the primary network interface: address, netmask, network, broadcast, and gateway numbers
[14:34] <zachP> I have it all I believe except network address number
[14:35] <zeroseven0183> Hi folks, I need help fixing Open Sans font in my Ubuntu 12.04.
[14:35] <zachP> Not sure where to get that. Is it in ifconfig?
[14:35] <zeroseven0183> Is there a way to reinstall it?
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  what does what mean?
[14:35] <nibbler__> zachP: broadcast you dont need to give, and you should not use ifconfig any more (use ip instead)
[14:35] <Odra> T____T
[14:35] <Odra> Why I feel like my mouse is dragging a stone behind the cursor on ubuntu?
[14:35] <Ormie> Dr_Willis: you said about the ubuntu logo and said about reboot for updates...
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> zeroseven0183:  the package manager tools should let you reinstall it.
[14:35] <L3top> Munz what I am going to suggest you do is sudo apt-get install fglrx    and then gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub   and add add radeon.modeset=0  to the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=         then save the file, and run sudo update-grub   and reboot.
[14:35] <nibbler__> zachP: you dont need "network adress number"
[14:36] <zachP> ok
[14:36] <glenn> how is a expert in printer sharing
[14:36] <zeroseven0183> Dr_Willis: Any way I can do it via command line?
[14:36] <maj_> odra: is this like a corrupted mouse pointer?
[14:36] <zachP> So it could be written and saved as the following:
[14:36] <NewWorld> Odra:  incorrectly setup video drivers is my guess
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  my 'byobu' layout here (i am in 12.10) has a Ubuntu logo as the left most item. and a 'reboot is needed' icon  near the clock :) These may not show  up if you are in the Console.
[14:36] <zachP> Oops thought I could do a paragraph
[14:36] <Odra> Its the mouse movement
[14:36] <nibbler__> zachP: all in one line please, and use a pastebin
[14:36] <Ormie> ah.. ok
[14:36] <Odra> It just feel weird
[14:36] <nibbler__> !paste | zachp
[14:36] <zeroseven0183> Dr_Willis: Or do I really have to install synaptic manager?
[14:36] <Odra> I try to adjust it but it becomes too slow
[14:37] <zachP> Thanks
[14:37] <maj_> odra: got an ati card?
[14:37] <Ormie> can I simulate that my system needs to reboot?
[14:37] <Ormie> how?
[14:37] <Odra> I think its because ubuntu uses acceleration on mouse. And it takes too long for it to react at a speed I want.
[14:37] <nibbler__> Ormie, "echo 'the system needs to reboot'" in the cli
[14:37] <NewWorld> xD
[14:38] <Ormie> hmph...
[14:38] <Ormie> seriously please
[14:38] <zachP> Okay here is what I have http://paste.ubuntu.com/1128969/
[14:38] <NewWorld> Ormie:  You can fake shutdown with `shutdown` command, check the manual
[14:39] <Ormie> ok
[14:39] <nibbler__> Ormie, i don't even understand the question tbh
[14:39] <devtekalpha> Is there any downside to choosing encrypt home folder on ubuntu setup? Is it best to always do it
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> zeroseven0183:  apt-get has a reinstall option.
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> !apt | zeroseven0183
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  it's shutdown -k
[14:40] <nibbler__> zachP: there might be occasions when you need more, but i'd recommend to remove the "network" and "broadcast" line.
[14:40] <Ormie> ok
[14:40] <zeroseven0183> Dr_Willis: Thanks. I just downloaded an Open-Sans package and reinstalled the TTFs. I believe it has been fixed.
[14:40] <zachP> nibbler: okay I thanks I will try that
[14:40] <Ormie> byobu doesn't get fooled.
[14:40] <nibbler__> zachP: but now i know what you meant before, the network address, not the network number. this along with the broadcast address can be derived automatically from ip/mask
[14:41] <devtekalpha> Im finding ubuntu easier to install than windows. Ubuntu got my wifi card working before even installing the os. Never happend with windows
[14:42] <nibbler__> zachP: if you use a 255.255.255.0 (or /24, which means the same) mask, then the address would be .....0 and the broadcast would be ......255, just if you insist in defining it explicitly
[14:42] <zachP> nibbler: Oh, okay, thanks! that is my mask too.
[14:43] <nibbler__> zachP ;-) welcome. thats the most common mask for private networks....
[14:43] <domtron> Hi I finally figured out how to install a cli on my really old laptop yesterday. So I spent most of the day setting it up (I'm interested in using it for school notes, programing and burning code to microcontrollers). However I wanted to set up a very light weight desktop for viewing pdfs and images. I will mostly be using the tty terminals though. anyway I installed lxde but it wouldn't start with startlxde so I dicided to reboot. after re
[14:43] <domtron> booting it shows a loading screen but then everything goes black. I belive there was text right after the loading screen but it flashes to fast to read. I tried going into recovery mode to remove the package and it says the filesystem is read only. I intalled a lot of packages so it might not even be lxde, but since it seems to be a gui problem I think it's the best bet. thanks for any help.
[14:44] <zachP> nibbler: so in other words network = <IP>.0 and broadcast is <IP>.255 (which is exactl what ifconfig shows, just doesn't show network)
[14:44] <nibbler__> domtron, reboot, in grub press "e" to edit the line, remove "quiet" and "splash" parameters, possible add "noapic noacpi lapic=off" and boot this
[14:44] <NewWorld> domtron:  when everything goes black, can you get axx to cli with Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[14:45] <domtron> NewWorld: no
[14:45] <nibbler__> zachP: <first-3-octets-of-ip>.0 and -.255 for a /24 network. ifconfig dows not show... its redundant anyway
[14:45] <maj> flash did not work with upgrade to precise, what else can i try?
[14:46] <zachP> nibbler: thanks very much
[14:47] <maj> flashplugin-installer is already newest version but still not working
[14:47] <zachP> I appreciate people willing to deal with someone attempting a project they are diving into with no experience. :)
[14:48] <nibbler__> zachP: everyone started with the first try..... steak is waiting, laters and good luck
[14:48] <zachP> nibbler: sounds delicious, thanks again
[14:49] <francis> oi
[14:49] <domtron> nibbler: load fallback graphics device [failed] it's looking for the network now(which is currently disconected)
[14:50] <domtron> nibbler: ok it just finished and booted into a black screen. NewWorld: just tried switching tty terminals again, still didn't work.
[14:50] <embraceyourlove> Hi everyone guys
[14:51] <antonio_> hi
[14:51] <embraceyourlove> I need a little bit of help. I rented a cloud server and now deciding what Linux shall i install. I only need PHP/MySQL/Apache config. Is Ubuntu ok with it?
[14:52] <embraceyourlove> sry im not that technically educated
[14:52] <domtron> oops nibbler__ sorry >.<
[14:53] <echo501> Hello
[14:53] <echo501> again
[14:54] <manas_b> hello
[14:54] <NewWorld> domtron: Can you check how frozen it is? When it's frozen hold down Alt+Shift+SysRq  and press keys R,E,i,S,U,B , wating 1 second between each key press. Does it reboot?
[14:54] <echo501> I've DL and burned ubunu 12..04 desktop but when I try and boot off it I get the little graphic at the botton with a man in a circle
[14:54] <Munz> L3Top : thanks for your help but it did not work , all icons are pretty big and bold , the fonts are somehow unreadable and the screen overall looks weird
[14:54] <echo501> Google says to check the MD5 hash
[14:54] <axisys> which channel discusses ubuntu for android?
[14:55] <echo501> I did and they match.
[14:55] <echo501> any ideas>
[14:55] <echo501> ?
[14:55] <mneptok> echo501: how long have you waited at that screen? does the optical media spin down 100% during that time?
[14:56] <echo501> Waited a coupld min and yes the drive was still going...  let me guess the OS is still loading?
[14:56] <mneptok> echo501: yes.
[14:56] <echo501> Doh.
[14:56] <echo501> Thans
[14:56] <echo501> Thanks
[14:57] <zachP> "sudo echo server1.example.com > /etc/server1" returns "permission denied", ideas? Thanks.
[14:58] <domtron> NewWorld: sysRq is a suscript of PrtSc would you know how to select it on a IBM thinkpad?
[14:58] <NewWorld> domtron:  It's the same for me. OK sorry hold down PrtSc instead. It's just that all docs about this tell to press SysRq
[15:01] <wessel> how to install the real java from sun?
[15:01] <domtron> NewWorld: I need shift+letter except for 'i' right?
[15:01] <DarkSim> Hello, I'm using 12.04 with xubuntu-desktop and I want to use my media control buttons on my Logitech G110 with music applications like Spotify, but they don't work, can I activate/set them?
[15:01] <Matrixiumn> Hello
[15:01] <DJones> !java | wessel
[15:02] <maj> anyone know howto fix adobe flash on precise, got latest flashplugin-installer
[15:02] <NewWorld> domtron:  THoughout whole process you should be holding down Alt+Shift+PrtSc . Then press REISUB individually (i.e. press, release)
[15:03] <L3top> Munz: You now have a resolution issue. "Did not work" is inaccurate. When you tried to boot previously, it crashed. Now you have a desktop with the wrong resolution. Open the catalyst control center and fix it.
[15:03] <Munz> ok
[15:03] <sanderspruijt> Hello. I need some help with SMTP mail. I need an SMTP server on Ubuntu which I can reach externally to send e-mail. Is this possible? I can only find information on how to use sendmail locally.
[15:04] <krozzbeatz> how can i find a irc chat room that for specific topic?
[15:04] <domtron> NewWorld: doesn't seem to be doing anything...
[15:05] <DJones> !alis | krozzbeatz
[15:05] <domtron> NewWorld: >.< nvm I was hiting the button next to prtSc
[15:05] <domtron> NewWorld: it rebooted
[15:06] <NewWorld> domtron:  then it's not super-duper frozen. SysRq magic keys don't work when there are serious hdd crashes during runtime and stuff like that
[15:07] <NewWorld> domtron:  At which point does it throw you to black screen? BIOS > GRUB > bootup msgs, etc
[15:07] <domtron> NewWorld: this is new on the splash screen it has "could not write bytes: Broken pipe" 3 times
[15:07] <palasso> Hi
[15:07] <palasso> I found out that kubuntu-restricted-extras has a package that ubuntu-restricted-extras doesn't have
[15:07] <palasso> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/lame
[15:07] <palasso> Does anyone know why is that?
[15:08] <krozzbeatz> "/msg alis help list"
[15:08] <krozzbeatz> "/msg alis help list"
[15:08] <DJones> krozzbeatz: You don't need the quotes
[15:08] <NewWorld> krozzbeatz:  enter without "
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> krozzbeatz  without the quotes
[15:08] <domtron> NewWorld: it shows the ubuntu 12.04 loading screen, last thing it says is "looking for network connection 60 more seconds" then it moves on to the black screen.
[15:09] <palasso> Also kubuntu-restricted-extras has this package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libmp3lame0
[15:09] <NewWorld> domtron:  when you try recovery mode, what is the exact error msg about the filesystem?
[15:10] <palasso> that ubuntu-restricted-extras doesn't have
[15:10] <palasso> Does anyone know why LAME is on kubuntu-restricted-extras but not on ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> palasso  better ask why-questions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:11] <luftikuss> In mc, what is the command to make Panel 2's contents identical to Panel 1?
[15:11] <palasso> ok thnx MonkeyDust :)
[15:11] <Dr_willis> palasso,  could be some KDE apps use LAME and the gnome apps dont...
[15:13] <miaoge> when I use "sudo apt-get install kunbutu-desktp" it returns "E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop"
[15:13] <miaoge> how can I solve this problem
[15:13] <miaoge> thanks
[15:13] <Dr_willis> start with a 'sudo apt-get update'
[15:14] <palasso> Dr_willis that's what I thought. There are also 2 packages for K3b that are not on ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:14] <Dr_willis> !info kubuntu-desktop
[15:14] <miaoge> I used
[15:14] <Dr_willis> palasso,  makes sence then...
[15:14] <miaoge> but it didn't work
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> miaoge  make sure you didnt misstypes some things
[15:14] <miaoge> when I use "sudo apt-get install kunbutu-desktop" it returns "E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop"
[15:14] <miaoge> yes
[15:15] <smartboyhw> !info ubuntu-desktop
[15:15] <domtron> NewWorld: when the menu loads I choose "root" then I try "sudo apt-get remove lxde" and it says "W: not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock" "E: unable to write lto /var/cache/apt/" "E: the package lists or statuse file could not be parsed or opened" odd thing is it never asks for a password...
[15:16] <Dr_willis> if you are in a root shell.. you are allready root.
[15:17] <smartboyhw> But it's dangerous to use root
[15:17] <NewWorld> domtron:  does `mount` show your OS partition has "rw" attribute?
[15:18] <xxiao__> what's the default passwd for user postgres
[15:20] <domtron> NewWorld: /dev/sda1 on / (rw,errors=remount-ro) it also warned that /etc/mtab is not writable.
[15:21] <NewWorld> domtron:  what does `touch /tmp/aoeu.tmp` return?
[15:25] <domtron> NewWorld: touch: cannot touch /tmp/aoeu.tmp: read-only file system
[15:25] <NewWorld> domtron:  Do you know if recovery mode is supposed to be RO?
[15:26] <_skpl> can you play games inside a virtual machine?
[15:27] <NewWorld> domtron:  On ubuntuforums it says try `mount -o rw,remount /`
[15:27] <Dr_willis> _skpl,  yes.. but how well. depends on the game.
[15:27] <NewWorld> _skpl:  Yes, but they will probably run slower
[15:29] <domtron> NewWorld: no clue. ok after that touch doesn't give any output
[15:29] <JavaKid> hello everyone
[15:30] <domtron> NewWorld: and it's removing lxde :)
[15:30] <JavaKid> I'm very new to Ubuntu and am having some trouble. Could anyone lend me a hand please?
[15:30] <NewWorld> JavaKid:  just ask and see))
[15:31] <JavaKid> It was hard to just join this IRC lol. Okay anyhow, I downloaded java to /home/java because I didn't have permissions to make a /usr/java
[15:31] <brontosaurusrex> when compiling and the app is expecting older libs of things, what is the way to solve that?
[15:31] <domtron> NewWorld: i'm going to try rebooting now
[15:31] <JavaKid> now i need to create a symbolic link to plugins for firefox to run java and it says permission denied. what do i do?
[15:32] <NewWorld> JavaKid:  you don't have root permission?
[15:33] <JavaKid> i guess not. im running on my admin account, the only account i have on ubuntu
[15:33] <zachP> (searching google for this) if anyone is available: /etc/init.d/<hostname> says directory doesn't exist. I even rebooted and listed the directory. It's not there. Don't understand; following a tutorial.
[15:33] <zachP> oh sorry, I am trying to do /etc/init.d/<hostname> restart
[15:34] <MorpheusChalice> I tried to install gnome-shell-extensions on my Ubuntu 12.04 x64 system with Gnome 3.4 installed and it returned and error saying:  gnome-shell-extensions : Depends: gir1.2-gtop-2.0 but it is not installable
[15:34] <MorpheusChalice> How do I solve it?
[15:34] <Dr_willis> Hostname is not a 'service' name  zachP
[15:34] <NewWorld> JavaKid:  When you need to elevate permission start the command with sudo , but you should know what you're doing isn't dangerous as you can mess up your system
[15:35] <JavaKid> newworld, im following the exact instructions provided by java
[15:35] <Dr_willis> zachP,  and you shoudl be using the 'service' command.
[15:35] <zachP> I am not literally typing hostname I am putting in "server1" which is what hostname returns
[15:35] <zachP> oh okay
[15:35] <NewWorld> JavaKid:  .... you can install java from Software Centre? no?
[15:35] <Dr_willis> zachP,  the server name is NOT a 'service' :)
[15:35] <NewWorld> JavaKid:  i.e. the proper way haha
[15:35] <JavaKid> not sure, but i prefer to install it manually via java.com
[15:35] <Dr_willis> JavaKid,  theres ppa's and scripts that do it better.
[15:36] <JavaKid> should i just do it via software center instead then?
[15:36]  * Dr_willis dosent trust much  from Oracle.
[15:36] <Dr_willis> !java
[15:36] <Dr_willis> the Open sourced java is int he repos.. the  java 6 and 7 need a little more work.
[15:36] <zen3> ubuntu: so mainstream.
[15:36]  * Dr_willis has no idea what zen3 means..
[15:36] <zen3> haha
[15:37] <zen3> i mean everybody says linux and mean ubuntu
[15:37] <zen3> and i dont like that
[15:38] <JavaKid> newworld what do you mean suupply the shortcut name?
[15:39] <JavaKid> my terminal is currently navigated to mozilla plugins folder
[15:39] <NewWorld> JavaKid:  man ln , it will show you the syntax and possibly examples
[15:39] <mindgap> #Ubuntuhelp
[15:39] <mindgap> :>
[15:39] <mindgap> I change my fonts (system as well) and I cant load my x
[15:39] <zachP> lol. Dr_Willis: apologies. Complete newbie here. I just realised I was completely misinterpeting what the tutorial was telling me to type
[15:39] <Munz> L3top : sorry but i adjusted the resolution but it still the same and the fan noise is still ... can i download the latest driver from ati website?
[15:39] <mindgap> where can i change the system fonts?
[15:40] <NewWorld> JavaKid:  oops I meant "link name" not shortcut
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> mindgap: in which desktop?
[15:40] <mindgap> gnome
[15:40] <JavaKid> okay
[15:40] <domtron> NewWorld: it's still booting up a black screen :/
[15:40] <JavaKid> also, is it bad to have java installed in my home folder?
[15:40] <Kreas> hello guys... I just wanted to ask... How hard is the transition from PC Windows to Ubuntu? Thank you!
[15:40] <laporte> Hi all I have a epson stylus sx215 printer and it's having some problem. I would like to test ink level and status using escputil. The problem is that I get the message "Cannot write to /dev/lp0 Resource temporarily unavailable" every time. I checked if I was in the lp group (and thus have read and write rights) and I haven't found any solution in the internet.
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: doesn't matter really, its a bit messy but no big deal
[15:41] <L3top> Munz: AMD/ATI has dropped support for your card in the new versions, so no. It will not work at all.
[15:41] <JavaKid> okay
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> mindgap: let me search
[15:41] <freaker> depends on whatyou wanna do
[15:41] <freaker> if you just wanna watch moovies and browse the net its easy
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> mindgap: tried using myunity
[15:41] <Munz> L3top : does that mean i am stuck!!!!!
[15:41] <freaker> if you wanna mess with the monster you need ot know your stuff
[15:41] <mindgap> ok
[15:41] <mindgap> im gona try
[15:41] <Dr_willis> zachP,  the service command supports tab completion also. :)
[15:41] <JavaKid> would you guys recommend I install Ubuntu Tweak?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: are you having java issues?
[15:42] <Dr_willis> JavaKid,  i use it all the time to tweak some things.. MyUnity does a lot of the things I used to use Ubuntu-tweak for.
[15:42] <Dr_willis> JavaKid,  it does have some features not in MyUnity (yet)
[15:42] <JavaKid> nope actiion, just had trouble installing it into firefox plugins but i think i fixed it. testing it nnow
[15:42] <NewWorld> domtron:  Did you only remove LXDE , or also the dependencies that were installed with it? In recovery check, /var/log/messages and see what it says at the point where screen blacks out
[15:42] <JavaKid> willis so would you recommend myUnity?
[15:42] <Munz> L3top : how can i get back to the before the update files!!
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: i have a PPA if you want, makes life easier
[15:43] <Kreas> well... i have some java applications (live stream feed) and some trading platforms (MetaTrader 4) that I run... a lot of browsing and some online multiplayer games... the monster?
[15:43] <Munz> L3top : sorry for my bad english
[15:43] <Jerry_Gar> fuck ubuntuz
[15:43] <L3top> they in fact now have dropped support for most everything out there more than a year or two old. Munz, there are tweaks you can do, I believe, with the aticonfig tool to the fans, and if not, there is a package out there that will let you set them where you like... but be careful to set reasonable temp limits. Dont want to burn things up.
[15:43] <Dr_willis> JavaKid,  Try them both.. they both do slighty different things..
[15:43] <IdleOne> Jerry_Gar: Please don't swear in here
[15:43] <Dr_willis> JavaKid,  I use them both depends on what i want to tweak
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[15:43] <Dr_willis> Good Old Webupd8 :)
[15:43] <Jerry_Gar> what/?//////
[15:44] <Dr_willis> wonder if thats mentioned on the official java ubuntu wiki page.
[15:44] <NewWorld> Kreas:  in what sense harder? To install ubuntu or ... to use it as a primary OS instead of windows?
[15:44] <L3top> Munz: I dont know what you updated, or how.
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Jerry_Gar: do you have a support question?
[15:44] <Kreas> yes
[15:44] <Jerry_Gar> yes I think windows me is better than ubuntuz
[15:44] <Kreas> as primary OS
[15:44] <L3top> !ot | Jerry_Gar
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Jerry_Gar: that's not a question, that's a statement..
[15:44] <Jerry_Gar> oh
[15:44] <Jerry_Gar> shit
[15:44] <Munz> L3top : i am not the guy for such things ... regarding the update , i am using the normal "update manager"
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> Jerry_Gar: again, do you have a support question
[15:45] <Jerry_Gar> yes. I think win 3.1 isa better than ubuntu
[15:45] <L3top> Munz: lsb_release -sc
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> !ops | Jerry_Gar
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> Jerry_Gar: bye
[15:45] <Pricey> Jerry_Gar: This is a support channel. Please don't waste people's time.
[15:46] <NewWorld> Kreas:  it's pretty damn user-friendly now. But if you use as main OS you will run into problems and breakages that you will have to fix (but that will give you a better knowledge of linux). There's tonnes of support though
[15:46] <Munz> L3TOP : precise
[15:46] <Jerry_Gar> dudez
[15:46] <Kreas> other than support online... any quick way to practice before actually moving to ubuntu
[15:47] <Kreas> i understand the philosophy of linux but never really got into it
[15:47] <IdleOne> Jerry_Gar: You are welcome to join #ubuntu-offtopic and chat
[15:47] <Jerry_Gar> oh
[15:47] <Jerry_Gar> thank you
[15:47] <L3top> Kreas: you can load it into a virtual terminal, or you can simply boot to ubuntu live from the live install cd
[15:47] <fellayaboy> how do i make less jump to where it says local-bin for example or whatever word i choose..i dont want to just grep it and display that line only...but have less just jump to that line and i can still see the whole page
[15:47] <NewWorld> Kreas:  Live CD , search up info on that) gl
[15:48] <Kreas> thank you all for advice... I have seen this live C
[15:48] <NewWorld> fellayaboy:  /     key
[15:48] <Kreas> D option before but I was worried about security
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: can you give your question some context
[15:48] <L3top> Kreas: that would not be a reasonable worry ;)
[15:48] <domtron> NewWorld: thanks for all your help, but I have to go :/
[15:49] <bipul> ActionParsnip,  hellow
[15:49] <NewWorld> domtron:  np, gl!
[15:49] <Kreas> L3top: Could you extrapolate please
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> bipul: howdy
[15:49] <JavaKid> sorry guys back
[15:49] <L3top> Munz: was this a 12.04 install prior to your update? I am trying to figure out if you upgraded to a new distribution version.
[15:49] <max1mus> any suggestion for firewall better than Firestarter?
[15:49] <bipul> ActionParsnip,  do you really recognised me ? ? well i  have not saw you nick from long time :)
[15:49] <JavaKid> newworld i installed the java lib into mozilla plugins as per java instructions and restarted firefox and it didn't work
[15:50] <NewWorld> max1mus:  iptables
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> bipul: I talk to a tonne of users, sorry
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: did you try the PPA?
[15:50] <bipul> hahah it's ok
[15:50] <fellayaboy> usually i would less file | grep aword ....and the out put would be "here is the line with aword in it"...and the terminal shows that line...well how can i use one comand to open with less and jump to that spot..
[15:50] <JavaKid> sorry can you link that again?
[15:50] <max1mus> NewWorld, iptables is command line right?
[15:50] <NewWorld> max1mus:  yeah. it's much  more advanced
[15:50] <bipul> ActionParsnip,  how can i be like you ?
[15:51] <L3top> Kreas: The live environment is more secure than a regular windows install. That was all I meant... due to the very nature of the beast.
[15:51] <max1mus> okay nice , thanks
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> bipul: in what way?
[15:51] <fellayaboy> ...but with whole file open..so i can see the whole file u know what i mean...its very very simple
[15:51] <JavaKid> action could you give me the PPA again?
[15:51] <NewWorld> JavaKid:  If you install Java the proper way, like with Software Centre and synaptic, I think it's more likely to work and troubleshoot
[15:51] <bipul> ActionParsnip,  knowleg of ubuntu and helping others. :)
[15:51] <JavaKid> i looked on software center and all i saw was openjdk but not the java 7u5 runtime
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> bipul: use the OS and you'll learn
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> (16:43:39) ActionParsnip: JavaKid: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[15:52] <willh> I've installed Lubuntu 12.04 and Lubuntu-restricted-extras, but when I try to run websites that use java it will not work
[15:52] <bipul> ActionParsnip,  i am using it from last 2 year ,
[15:52] <willh> using Chromium.  How do I fix?
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> bipul: I started in 2001 :)
[15:52] <Kreas> L3top: I get it though it seems difficult for me to venture out into a live environment leaving the "security" of familiar Windows system
[15:53] <fellayaboy> i got it thanks dude.. less whateverfile /theword
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> willh: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[15:53] <Kreas> i suppose I was looking for some assurance
[15:53] <bipul> ActionParsnip,  in 2001 ubuntu was there??
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> bipul: No, I was using Mandrake 7
[15:53] <davidrsmorris> hey, I'm playing with window managers.  What does gdm look at now?  I don't see ~/.xsession files.
[15:53] <Kreas> I respect the philosophy behind Ubuntu and would love to be able to just jump in and carry my Windows experience along with me
[15:54] <JavaKid> is "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer safe" to execute?
[15:54] <brontosaurusrex> Kreas, what philosophy? i thought its about computers all this time ...
[15:54] <bipul> oh ok... ActionParsnip  , i need to know how to build small packages in C for ubuntu.
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: yes, in terminal, all one line
[15:54] <JavaKid> what's webupd8taem?
[15:54] <JavaKid> webupd8team
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: its a ppa, webupd8 review linux things and so forth
[15:55] <glenn> ppthunderbird
[15:55] <Kreas> brontosaureusrex: http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy (i.e free open source)
[15:55] <IdleOne> bipul: #ubuntu-packaging can help you with packaging questions
[15:55] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  Don't you put which WM to start in ~/.xinitrc ?
[15:55] <Dr_willis> Windows often teachs very bad habbits when applied to Linux. :)
[15:55] <bipul> IdleOne,  thank you :)
[15:55] <JavaKid> okay it's running now
[15:55] <Kreas> so the transition IS difficult?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Kreas: depends on the individual
[15:56] <Dr_willis> davidrsmorris,  depending on the session you select.. its .xinitrc or .Xsession  (or was it .xsession)
[15:56] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I don't seem to have a ~/.xinitrc and I'm using Unity's login manager.
[15:56] <brontosaurusrex> Kreas, oh
[15:56] <klj613> installed fglrx drivers. multi monitor work via ccc. when restart it goes back to cloned monitors? :-/
[15:56] <Kreas> well... i guess the only way to answer my questions is to give it a go! Thank you all for your support
[15:56] <Dr_willis> davidrsmorris,  if you want total controll you can make one.
[15:57] <Kreas> I will probably be back with application questions... Thank you again!
[15:57] <Dr_willis> davidrsmorris,  and i think there may be a package to add a 'user session' to the Login Screen menus.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Kreas: we'll be here :)
[15:57] <Kreas> :)
[15:57] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  Sorry I don't know anything about Unity, but just because you don't have ~/.x* doesn't mean they won't work if you create them. The system wide .x* files are in /etc somewhere iirc
[15:57] <willh> It works, thanks
[15:57] <JavaKid> while this installs, is it possible to download new themes for ubuntu that changes how everything looks?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> willh: easy peasy, easier than windows :)
[15:58] <davidrsmorris> Dr_willis: I don't want to break what came with the wm packages.  and .Xauthority is a binary file.
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: if it doesn't use packages then yes
[15:58] <willh> I wonder why if it is in the lubuntu software center that it doesn't install properly.  Oh well, problem solved.
[15:58] <davidrsmorris> And I'm not trying to create a new session, I just want to tweak it adding xscreensaver to awesome.
[15:59] <rvgate> i JUST installed ubuntu 12.04 on my latop (MSI GE620) and for some reason its forcing me into unity-2d... how can i make sure it uses the normal unity?
[15:59] <maj> where can i see whats wrong with flash?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> willh: you needed the PPA to get java
[15:59] <J3f> rvgate: instal gnome-shell ;)
[15:59] <NewWorld> maj:  can you describe the symptoms?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> maj: if you can give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[15:59] <JavaKid> action, is that ppa you gave me Sun's JVM?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> maj: then people can advise
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> JavaKid: yes
[16:00] <JavaKid> okay
[16:00] <rvgate> J3f, for some reason, the ";)" makes your answer look like you're trying to troll :P
[16:00] <maj> NewWorld: i have been installing both web and software centre flash, both not working on youtube(image shows nothing)
[16:00] <bipul> IdleOne,  no one is active there, :(
[16:01] <J3f> :(
[16:01] <brontosaurusrex> !flash
[16:01] <davidrsmorris> maj: I use the html5 youtube trial.  It seems to glitch less under linux.
[16:01] <rvgate> J3f, sorry... haha... you serious about the gnome-shell?
[16:01] <maj> davidrsmorris:can u describe how that works?
[16:01] <J3f> rvgate: xd nah i'm new on linux bro..
[16:02] <IdleOne> bipul: the topic should have links to get you started
[16:02] <bipul> oh ok
[16:02] <maj> ActionParsnip: that line gives me nothing on terminal as output
[16:02] <davidrsmorris> maj: get the newest chrome or firefox.  Sign up here: http://www.youtube.com/html5
[16:02] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  in Youtube Account Preferences you can choose HTML5 video instead of flash
[16:02] <NewWorld> oops i meant maj
[16:03] <maj> NewWorld: and for users that have no account any alternatives?
[16:04] <davidrsmorris> maj: I think that if you use the link I gave you, it stores it in cookies.  Think.
[16:04] <davidrsmorris> as in, not certain.
[16:06] <JavaKid> newworld the terminal finished installing what action told me to do it says download done. can i close the terminal? it warns me it will terminate the process
[16:06] <NewWorld> JavaKid:  maybe it's still installing? When it's done it should throw you back to the bash prompt
[16:07] <RomeoAva> How cud I see in a properly way the PowerPoints? The text is bigger, unlined.
[16:07] <JavaKid> your right it just started going again lol
[16:07] <maj> davidrsmoris: i tryed the html5 test but nothing happens
[16:07] <JavaKid> okay now it says myname@ubuntu:-$ is it safe to close?
[16:07] <Dr_willis> davidrsmorris,  not .Xauthority   .Xsession
[16:08] <NewWorld> JavaKid:  yeah
[16:08] <davidrsmorris> Dr_willis: Thanks, I just found it in /etc, was having some difficulty because it's not hidden there.
[16:08] <maj> Dr_willis:they removed that flash to vlc addon, got any other link for me?
[16:09] <JavaKid> so should everything be good to go?
[16:09] <Dr_willis> davidrsmorris,  the USER can have a .Xsession in their Home dir.
[16:09] <NewWorld> maj:  there's a firefox extension for that i remember
[16:09] <JavaKid> appears java is running in firefox now
[16:09] <JavaKid> :)
[16:09] <Dr_willis> maj,  its still here... https://github.com/webgapps/flvideoreplacer
[16:10] <NewWorld> great))
[16:10] <JavaKid> thank you SO much for helping me get this running lol
[16:10] <maj> tnx
[16:10] <Dr_willis> maj,  no idea why the author removed it. perhaops hes getting ready to upgrade it.
[16:10] <davidrsmorris> Dr_willis: oh, more confusion.  It seems that everything's done in a binary.  xinitrc just points to Xsession. Looks like deep magic I don't want to break.  Where can I learn about Xsession?
[16:11] <JavaKid> i'm running 64 bit ubuntu. should i download 64 bit version of apps when possible?
[16:11] <Dr_willis> davidrsmorris,  you are confuseing the USERS files in their home with the SYSTEM files..
[16:11] <NewWorld> JavaKid:  np, and yeah
[16:11] <L3top> JavaKid: yes...
[16:11] <Dr_willis> davidrsmorris,  the USER Can have a .xinitrc or .Xsession (note the .) in their HOME directory. that is a simnple text file.
[16:11] <cordoval> how to troubleshoot my wireless
[16:11] <cordoval> all of a sudden stopped working
[16:11] <davidrsmorris> Well, doesn't the user's file just supplant the system file if it's there?
[16:12] <Dr_willis> davidrsmorris,  you dont need to be touching the system files at all..  You may want to clarify exactly what it is you are wanting to do.
[16:13] <davidrsmorris> Dr_willis: I'm trying to autostart xscreensaver when I run Awesome.
[16:13] <Dr_willis> davidrsmorris,  and how are you starting awsome?
[16:14] <davidrsmorris> Select it from the login screen, and that was set up for me with the package.
[16:14] <JavaKid> sorry about all my ubuntu noob questions... but i downloaded a .jar app where should i place it in my files?
[16:14] <Dr_willis> awsome seems to be not so awsome - it dosent have any auto-start features of its own it seems
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> JavaKid  what are you doing with a .jar file , if you are a beginner?
[16:15] <Dr_willis> the awsome wiki page  http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/Autostart shows an example .xinitrc  that  you could also use as a .Xsession
[16:15] <maj> seems like html5 still got alot of work, would rather love to fix adobe flash on precise
[16:15] <JavaKid> it's minecraft (minecraft.jar) downloaded from minecraft.net
[16:15] <Dr_willis> maj,  if adobe cant seem to 'fix' flash.. well.. ;)
[16:16] <davidrsmorris> Dr_willis: I'll take a look, thanks.
[16:16] <J3f> PlayOnLinux on laptop doest work ?
[16:16] <Dr_willis> J3f,  shouldnt matter if its a laptop or desktop
[16:17] <J3f> he say i need CD-ROM and mi lap dont have cdrom
[16:17] <DJones> JavaKid: I just have minecraft.jar saved on my desktop and right click and open with java
[16:17] <Dr_willis> J3f,  you mean the game you are installing wants a cd?
[16:17] <NewWorld> J3f:  You could make an ISO of the CD and mount it instead
[16:18] <JavaKid> okay djones i guess i can do that for now
[16:18] <NewWorld> J3f:  make sure in `winecfg` to add a CD drive that points to the mountpoint of the ISO file
[16:19] <klj613> if i configure settings in ccc (gui). how do i save the current settings to a xorg file?
[16:19] <J3f> uhmm Okay... but i ned ISO for can install game ?
[16:19] <RomeoAva> Way the PowerPoints in open it with Libreoffice looks bad?
[16:19] <JavaKid> djones do you know where all the hidden minecraft files go? such as level saves and stuff
[16:19] <RomeoAva> I need to instal some windows fonts?
[16:19] <NewWorld> J3f:  I don't understand what you're saying
[16:19] <Dr_willis> J3f,  you need the games install files somehow where playonlinux can read them.. yes.
[16:19] <Dr_willis> J3f,  what game are you trying to install anyway?
[16:20] <J3f> i can't install the game ... i try install GTA 3
[16:20] <J3f> because he say --i need CD ROM --
[16:20] <Dr_willis> J3f,  then you either Image the game Cd to a ISO file on a differnt pc and move the iso over.. or copy all the game files over and install from a directory.
[16:20] <Dr_willis> J3f,  any DISK based copy protection may cause issues..  No idea if GTA3 has that or not.
[16:21] <ahoneybun> Dr_willis, WINE issues?
[16:21] <J3f> uhm ok thanks
[16:21] <Dr_willis> I only get games on steam these days. :) rarely even need optical drives.
[16:22] <Sefid_Par> What's wrong? When I stop networking The appearance changes and can not start the networking again!
[16:22] <Sefid_Par> I use Ubuntu 11.10
[16:23] <JavaKid> newworld are you still here?
[16:23] <NewWorld> JavaKid:  yeah, hi
[16:23] <JavaKid> okay i have amd 64 bit processors with the hd radeon integrated graphics. do you know how i get the drivers so i can play games? i got java and minecraft, but the game screen is all black (i'm assuming because no graphics drivers)
[16:24] <ahoneybun> JavaKid, might need the nonfree video drivers
[16:25] <JavaKid> nonfree, meaning i have to pay?
[16:25] <NewWorld> Sorry, can't help. Really bad with drivers stuff, gl))
[16:25] <ahoneybun> JavaKid, no as in not open source
[16:25] <JavaKid> where do i get these?
[16:26] <ahoneybun> JavaKid, open up jockey
[16:26] <DJones> JavaKid: Sorry, missed your question originally, you'll have a hidden minecraft folder in /home, you can see it by opening nautilus and pressing Ctrl-H to show/hide hidden folders
[16:26] <ahoneybun> and click the right driver
[16:26] <JavaKid> thanks djones i found it about 30 seconds ago lol :p
[16:26] <DJones> JavaKid: Always the way
[16:26] <JavaKid> ahoneybun: it's loading hold on
[16:27] <JavaKid> "Searching for available drivers"
[16:27] <JavaKid> ahh it found AMD drivers for me xD
[16:27] <ahoneybun> JavaKid, thats the job of Jockey :)
[16:27] <JavaKid> now should i install normal or (post-release updates) graphics drivers?
[16:28] <ahoneybun> JavaKid, just normal
[16:28] <JavaKid> what does (post-release updates) mean?
[16:28] <JavaKid> here's the list:
[16:28] <JavaKid> ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (post-release updates)
[16:29] <JavaKid> ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
[16:30] <ahoneybun> JavaKid, normal are the drivers at the release of the distro and post-release are the latest drivers
[16:30] <JavaKid> so then i should download post-release?
[16:30] <JavaKid> to get the latest
[16:31] <ahoneybun> JavaKid, up to you, are you running on 12.04?
[16:31] <JavaKid> i believe so. i just downloaded and installed ubuntu yesterday
[16:32] <ahoneybun> JavaKid, Up to you, I would install normal for stable
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> JavaKid  post-release may be unstable
[16:32] <JavaKid> okay
[16:35] <JavaKid> when a terminal has (END) at the end of text such as an application license, how do i continue the installation process?
[16:35] <Dr_willis> JavaKid,  tab key to move around the 'buttons' :)
[16:35] <Dr_willis> then enter key to select it.
[16:36] <cordoval> what is the best way to fix when there was a crash during update?
[16:36] <cordoval> command?
[16:36] <echo501> OK I finally got a live CD to boot Ubuntu on my failed server.  I am able to access the root filesystem and navigate to the directory where I need to recreate the link file.  However I'm not using chroot corrrectly.   Help??
[16:36] <echo501> This is the command I'm typing  #chroot /media/root ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.13.so /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
[16:37] <NewWorld> echo501:  what error does it give?
[16:37] <echo501> I get a reply "Operation not permitted"
[16:38] <JavaKid> i purchased a lot of songs on itunes. is there any way to play purchased songs on ubuntu (the protected itunes ones; i do have SOME non-protected itunes purchases)
[16:39] <echo501> Ideas on what I'm typing wrong in the chroot line??
[16:39] <echo501> I REALLY need to get this link file recreated!!
[16:40] <xangua> JavaKid: you can purchase music in the ubuntumusic store without drm
[16:40] <NewWorld> echo501:  Are you typing #chroot , or are you actually under the root user?
[16:40] <JavaKid> i'm aware xangua but i purchased a lot of my music back in 05/06
[16:40] <Dr_willis> echo501,  go to the /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ directory and look at the files there.. see if the link worked or not
[16:40] <Dr_willis> that path seems weird. also.
[16:41] <cjware> has anyone experienced installing ubuntu on a macbook pro
[16:41] <echo501> Sorry I don't understand...   I booted the live CD, opened a terminal, navigated to /media/root and ran the above cmd
[16:41] <echo501> I'll check the files
[16:41] <Dr_willis> echo501,  so you have basically No real command line experience? You dont undersatand the 'cd' command?
[16:42] <NewWorld> echo501:  does `echo $USER` return "root"?
[16:43] <Dr_willis> and looking at what you pasted.. you put several commands onto one line....
[16:43] <JavaKid> newworld, where do you recommend i install apps that weren't installed via software center?
[16:45] <sarntam> Hi. I'm using a Samsung laptop and am trying to control the brightness with the FN keys in Ubuntu 12.04. I added acpi_backlight=vendor to my Grub configuration and it fixed Ubuntu freaking out whenever I try to alter the brightness. I also added the brightness control to my xorg.conf. Still using the FN keys I can only select 3 different brightness settings at the lower end of the spectrum. When I plug in the AC adapter, the laptop goes to 100%
[16:45] <sarntam> brightness, yet with the FN keys I can only decrease it until I've reached 20%, and cannot increase it back unless I replug the AC adapter...
[16:46] <echo501> I type chroot /media/root and I get "operation not permitted"
[16:46] <NewWorld> JavaKid:  I'm really not sure, /opt or ~/bin I guess. How are you planning to install programs other than Software Centre?
[16:47] <NewWorld> echo501:  does `echo $USER` return "root"?
[16:47] <Dr_willis> echo501,  you do have your installed system Mounted to /media/root ?
[16:47] <echo501> I'll check .... brb
[16:47] <JavaKid> NewWorld: I mean things downloaded not in the Software Center such as Minecraft and Teamspeak
[16:47] <Dr_willis> You dont really need to chroot to make the link.. you could just copy the files..
[16:47] <Dr_willis> or use a relative path.
[16:47] <JavaKid> NewWorld: Basically an app that isn't in Software Center
[16:47] <Dr_willis> JavaKid,  totally depends on the specific app and how you are installng it.
[16:48] <Dr_willis> JavaKid,  if its for a single user. put them in the users home directory.  for every user, /opt/ is common
[16:48] <JavaKid> Teamspeak was installed from a .run file and Minecraft was downloaded as a .jar from the internet
[16:48] <JavaKid> yes, just for me, so okay, thanks
[16:48] <NewWorld> JavaKid:  Minecraft is just a .jar file with configs and saves in .minecraft . I don't know how you're planning to install Teamspeak, but if you're compiling programs from source and installing, they install to /usr/ usually. .deb packages also install to /usr
[16:48] <echo501> echo $USER return ubuntu
[16:48] <JavaKid> I already installed Teamspeak
[16:48] <Dr_willis> echo501,  so you are not 'root' and need to use 'sudo' to do root tasks.
[16:49] <Dr_willis> echo501,  you have been at this for what 2 days now? may have been faster to just do a reinstall.
[16:49] <echo501> Yes the installed system is now mounted under /media/root
[16:49] <CMz> I'm trying to install php, by using the command: sudo apt-get install php5 libapache2-mod-php5, but all I get is Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-common_5.3.10-1ubuntu3.1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
[16:49] <CMz> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/libapache2-mod-php5_5.3.10-1ubuntu3.1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
[16:49] <Dr_willis> echo501,  so look at the installed system.. see what libs are in /media/root/whatever/that/path/was
[16:49] <CMz> what does this mean, is the Ubuntu server down?
[16:51] <BobMarley> hello, i am using the lucyd distribution of the ubuntu, the stable one, and in my update manager i have checked the option to update just to lts releases, so why my system is not upgrading to the 12.04 version?
[16:51] <JavaKid> NewWorld: How do I copy a file and all it's contents to a folder which requires permission (via terminal). i know i need to use sudo but what's after that/
[16:51] <echo501> I really don't want to do that as it also has a completly configured and working Bacula system on it.  and my limited Ubuntu knowledge will hamper any kind of re-install
[16:51] <NewWorld> JavaKid:  cp
[16:52] <echo501> ok so I can get into t he /media/root and see the files.
[16:52] <JavaKid> NewWorld: How does cp work?
[16:53] <NewWorld> JavaKid:  `man cp` . use man for manual of cammands)
[16:53] <echo501> How do I become root in the /media/root dir?
[16:53] <xangua> BobMarley: when 12.04.1 is out you'll be abble to upgrade, or you can force the update now with: update-manager -d
[16:54] <echo501> (just saw the sudo to root part)  Will try that
[16:54] <Sefid_Par> I have problem with stoping the networking service. How can I report it's bug?
[16:55] <BobMarley> xangua, but it is already available in the ubuntu site,
[16:55] <NewWorld> echo501:  btw, when on the internet you see commands prefixed with # it means run that command as root, i.e. with `sudo` or switching to root with `su`
[16:55] <Dr_willis> # - is the ROOT users shell prompt normally
[16:56] <Dr_willis> vs $ for a normal user.
[16:56] <Sefid_Par> Found it:)
[16:57] <Dr_willis>  is  /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/   a normal library directory?  seems an odd path.. but may be somntning to do with the 64bit/32bit stuff i guess.
[16:58] <trism> it is for multiarch
[16:58] <klj613> how i make ccc save my current preferences/settings
[16:58] <DJones> Dr_willis: I have that folder on my system with nothing odd/development based installed
[16:59] <Dr_willis> Im not seeing it in my vbox session.. but that may be because they are all 32bit.
[17:00] <Dr_willis> got a   /lib/i386-linux-gnu/
[17:00] <DJones> I have that as well
[17:00] <Dr_willis> ;)    and Libc.so.6 --> libc-2.143.so
[17:00] <trism> Dr_willis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec#Filesystem_layout
[17:00]  * Dr_willis has to wonder how someone messes up their libc file..
[17:01] <Dr_willis> !find libc.so.6
[17:01] <Dr_willis> if he chrooted in and just reinstalled the libc6 package - it should remake the link wouldent it?
[17:01] <JavaKid> thanks everyone for the help. im off for now. take care all :)
[17:02] <pi___> j
[17:02] <Dr_willis> !find libc-2.13.30
[17:02] <Dr_willis> !find libc-2.13.30.so
[17:02]  * Dr_willis cant read today.   theres no .30 heh..,
[17:03] <zachP> what does it mean when Ubuntu fails to fetch all software sources when trying to run "aptitude update"
[17:03] <Dr_willis> !find libc-2.13.so
[17:03] <blackshirt> zachP, list of software
[17:03] <blackshirt> Or ippackages index
[17:03] <Dr_willis> zachP,  You may want to start using 'sudo apt-get update' instead of aptitude.
[17:03] <Dr_willis> one of the servers was slow, or down.
[17:04] <zachP> okay. When I run that it reads package lists, some sources still fail. But is it updated now?
[17:04] <Dr_willis> the ones that dident fail are updated...
[17:06] <litropy> Hi, peeps. I'm having trouble with installing my usb wifi card. It uses driver carl9170, which I installed by installing compat-wireless, and I also downloaded and installed the firmware. I modprobed the driver, and I still can't get it to show up in ifconfig nor Network.
[17:06] <echo501> That was it!   I needed to sudo to the root user.  I was able to create the link file and after teh reboot the server is operational again!!!   Thank you all for helping such a noob.   My apologies for all the frusterations!   Ya'll have a nice weekend, hear!
[17:06] <NewWorld> great))
[17:10] <litropy> lsusb shows the card itself
[17:10] <mindstorm> can anyone try if this stream is down http://livestream.lora.ch:12220/listen.pls
[17:11] <mindstorm> i opened it in firefox like all the other streams i listen to but ther is no sound :(
[17:11] <echo501> Dr. Willis - One screws up a libc file by not understanding it's value.  After all it's a link....   if something failes I can just recreate the link, right.   I wasn't expecting "EVERYTHING" to fail.   Lesson learned.  Oy vey!
[17:11] <NewWorld> mindstorm:  works in vlc. some french ppl speaking
[17:11] <mindstorm> thx so mutch
[17:11] <klj613> when i restart why does it ignore the xorg.conf file?
[17:11] <echo501> Thanks all again....
[17:13] <Dr_willis> why would you even be messign with it :)
[17:14] <klj613> Dr_willis, was that to me?
[17:14] <Dr_willis> to echo.. but he left..
[17:15] <klj613> k
[17:15] <Dr_willis> havent figured out how people that barely understand the shell.. manage to  mess up libc :)
[17:15] <klj613> lol
[17:16] <oolumpixs> Dr_willis: by following some strange help notes after not using google search well enough, thats how
[17:17] <Dr_willis> i cant imagine what he was wanting to do with it anyway. :)
[17:17] <ssta> precisely because they don't understand what they're doing
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> and by working as root
[17:18] <aLeSD> hi all
[17:18] <aLeSD> what about 12.04 on mac air ?
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> aLeSD  what about it?
[17:18] <aLeSD> MonkeyDust, does it work well ?
[17:19] <scientes> aLeSD, use the mac install CD, some developers use the mac air
[17:19] <oolumpixs> 12.04 or the macair
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> !mac| aLeSD
[17:20] <aLeSD> ok ... i think i will buy one
[17:20] <klj613> i messed up xorg config file.. X wont start so i did recovery boot and went into root shell. and some reason /etc/X11/xorg.conf is 'read only' for root? :-/ lol
[17:20] <matej_> does anyone know how can i start x server application over ssh on another computer? I dont need display on a client, but on server.
[17:22] <ssta> matej_: ssh -X user@host xterm
[17:22] <ssta> replace xterm with command you want to run
[17:22] <Dr_willis> matej_,  you would have to set the DISPLAY variable., and i belive use the xhosts command to allow the remote user access to the  desktop display
[17:22] <ssta> oh, that way around...
[17:22] <Dr_willis> You want to ssh to box "Bubba" and have the app run and appear on "Bubba" correct?
[17:23] <Dr_willis> how are You going to controll the newly started app? :)
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> matej_  with gnome2, i logged in with ssh and then ran gnome-panel and metacity, but i havent tried gnome3 remotely, yet
[17:24] <matej_> great, the -X arguments works just as i wanted
[17:24] <matej_> MonkeyDust,  great, the -X arguments works just as i wanted
[17:25] <InfiniteByte> Hello. Suddenly, i have no sound. It isn't the Hardware. I did nothing special, just browsing. Could it be ALSA. Where is the .log of that? Thanks.
[17:25] <oolumpixs> InfiniteByte: to check als type alsamixer in a terminal and enter and see what it says
[17:26] <gr33n7007h> Is it possible to xterm pseudo-transparent like Eterm?
[17:26] <gr33n7007h> *make
[17:26] <ozzloy> i can get my kinect working with sudo freenect-glview, but not as my regular user.  how do i set it up so my regular user can access the kinect?
[17:26] <zorael> Is there an easy shell command to get a list of upgradeable packages? (aside from a lot of sed magic on apt-get update -s)
[17:29] <litropy> how can I tell what driver my external usb wifi card is trying to use? Keep in mind, I have an internal as well, but they're different chipsets. My internal uses ath9k.
[17:29] <zleap> hi cjware,
[17:29] <InfiniteByte> oolumpixs: everything is enabled and on full volume. Nothing happened as i changed something.
[17:33] <jd2> why are there so many instances of mysql from upstart when i look in top? thanks
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> jd2  maybe different mysql modules
[17:38] <jd2> oooh
[17:38] <jd2> thanks MonkeyDust
[17:41] <InfiniteByte> when i  do "alsa force-reload" it says http://paste.ubuntu.com/1129275/. some modules cannot be unloaded. is that normal?
[17:49] <jemadux> any good ps1 ?
[17:49] <InfiniteByte> so,  "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" says it is playing...
[17:53] <zachP> My server machine has internet connection yet all software sources are down??? Can't seem to update or install anything :(
[17:54] <hjubal> hi, I just installed 12.04 amd64 on my laptop but in WiFi connection "Connect" button is grayed
[17:54] <hjubal> rfkill tells me that WiFi card un unblocked
[17:54] <hjubal> any clue?
[17:55] <kbs> new to dlna -- is there a command line client that I can use to debug/poke around what is coming back from a dlna server?
[17:55] <NewWorld> zachP:  What's the error msg?
[17:55] <luftikuss> In mc, what is the command to make Panel 2's contents identical to Panel 1?
[17:58] <thek> Hello. Yesterday I used /etc/network/interfaces to setup a static ip, and it worked great. Today, after a reboot, the interfaces are started (but not picked up by NM). I can ping my own IP but I can't access anything on the network. I'm thinking that maybe I get blocked because NM is refusing access somehow. I note that I can "disable" the network in NM but then all programs seems to have issues locating the interface.
[17:59] <thek> Can anyone easily spot what I did wrong? Do I need to inform NM about the static IP in /etc/interfaces ? Where can i learn more about how the network stack starts in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[18:01] <compdoc> thek, have you looked in /ect/init.d  ?
[18:01] <thek> yes?
[18:02] <InfiniteByte> ok. i don't know why, but after i just booted to test again, that sound is working, it is working now on my system. yay
[18:02] <thek> ah.. you mean I should read the networking script? :)
[18:02] <InfiniteByte> *from a Live-stick
[18:02] <compdoc> you simply have to define a static address in /etc/network/interfaces  and I think NM leaves it alone
[18:02] <mongy> anyone good with syslinux? I'm trying to add an entry for ubuntu and I don't want to use grub, thanks.
[18:03] <anon_> Does anybody know how install the latest version of Retroshare on Ubuntu? retoroshare.sourceforge.net
[18:03] <thek> compdoc: This is what you think after googling the issue. And NM seems to identify that I messed with the file. There is a text stating that wired network isn't handled if you inspect the NM icon.
[18:03] <anon_> The one from the sources is only 0.5.3b
[18:04] <Scunizi> .
[18:05] <compdoc> thek, is that what youre trying to do?
[18:05] <thek> compdoc: I'm familiar with these documents: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[18:05] <thek> compdoc: I set up a static IP: 10.0.0.6 default gw 10.0.0.1
[18:05] <OerHeks> anon_, that url is wrong.
[18:05] <thek> it worked fine yesterday.
[18:05] <thek> After reboot I'm unable to access the network, but a 'ifconfig -a' looks normal
[18:06] <thek> It isn't DNS, because I can't reach the GW
[18:06] <jd2> my upstart command runs immediately and then quits any ideas why but when i run the same command not via upstart it works fine
[18:06] <thek> (and yes I checked physical network ;) )
[18:07] <nabil> hi guys
[18:07] <Scunizi> * having issues watching NBC's live coverage of the Olympics?  sudo apt-get install hal > close chromium/chrome > cd ~/.adobe/Flash_Player > rm -rf MativeCache AssetCache APSPrivateData2 > open chrome and try logging in again.
[18:07] <nabil> need some help
[18:07] <Scunizi> *MativeCache should be NativeCache
[18:07] <nabil> cant install some programs on ubuntu
[18:07] <nabil> 12.04
[18:07] <thek> Most issues I google talk about resov.conf being overwritten, however I don't have that issue. I just can't access the network .. it's as if I'm not defaulting to the gateway anymore.
[18:07] <OerHeks> Scunizi, i would not advise to install hal.
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> !ask | nabil
[18:07] <Scunizi> OerHeks: why's that?
[18:08] <nabil> ok
[18:08] <compdoc> any way to see output of:   cat /etc/resolv.conf, ifconfig, and route ?
[18:08] <nabil> cant install utorrent, and some programs suggested in some websites
[18:08] <compdoc> thek ^
[18:08] <OerHeks> Scunizi, there is a reason why HAL is depreciated. furthermore we do not supply hacks to see protected broadcasting
[18:09] <RomeoAva> Samsung SCX-4100 Laser Multifunction - The scanner dose't work. I installed samsungmfp-configurator-qt4 and samsungmfp-scanner-sane-fix.
[18:09] <nabil> everytime I follow the instructions, there must be a problem, especially with tar.gz apps
[18:09] <Scunizi> OerHeks: Ok.. but that still doesn't answer why.  Do you consider using Hal a hack for the broadcast?
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> nabil, we need to see errors and the name of the apps use a pastebin
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | nabil
[18:10] <OerHeks> !piracy | Scunizi
[18:11] <nabil> I dont get it, I am a newbie
[18:11] <NewWorld> nabil:  what's the problem exactly? details plz
[18:11] <Scunizi> OerHeks: I know the bot link.. I have a valid login through my cable provider for the broadcast. Again why is hal a hack? if it is at all.
[18:11] <Kikka> am new to IRC
[18:12] <Kikka> whats this all about
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> nabil, no problem what we need are details if you try and install utorrent do it from the terminal sudo apt-get install utorrent   then if you have an eror paste all the text to the pastebin.
[18:13] <nabil> I have diffiulties installing apps, sometimes I have a message that var/lib cant bes accessed, sometimes /opt says no such file name, etc...
[18:13] <thek> compdoc: Yes.. copy paste will be difficult though ;) ip route : default via 10.0.0.1 dev eth0 \n 10.0.0.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link source 10.0.0.6
[18:14] <zleap> cjware,
[18:14] <OerHeks> Scunizi, HAL is depreciated, duch big and buggy code, we use udev now >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_(software)#Deprecated
[18:14] <OerHeks> c/duch/such
[18:14] <InfiniteByte> nabil: if it says something cant be accessed by "apt-get install" you shoul close programs like synaptics
[18:14] <zleap> yeah iirc HAL was a pain
[18:14] <InfiniteByte> *should
[18:14] <thek> compdoc: ifconfig -a gives me ip addr: 10.0.0.6 on eth0
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> nabil, it may be that the websites are telling you about apps not available for example I don't see utorrent on my setup. You nhave to be sure that the apps are available, and if there is a substitute that is just as good.
[18:15] <thek> compdoc: resolv.conf contains two nameserver entries which I added in interfaces before
[18:15] <thek> compdoc: ie they were automatically added.
[18:16] <thek> I would expect errors like "network unreachable" or something. But I get 100% packet loss.
[18:16] <thek> (and the physical network is ok)
[18:17] <compdoc> thek, so it looks like youve sucessfully created a static ip address. You think NM is causing the issue now?
[18:17] <extropy> thek not sure if this relates but ubuntu seems to set up some things in iptables when it boots that might affect what's going on with your network
[18:17] <compdoc> thek, can you ping the gateway?
[18:17] <extropy> or maybe that's something I set up myself on my own box and forgot about ...
[18:18] <thek> compdoc: no, if I ping the gw I get nothing. 100% loss. Not network unreachable.
[18:18] <thek> compdoc: yes, the theory is that some other process has hijacked the network
[18:19] <thek> compdoc: and is blocking access.. If i do tcpdump I can see some ARP traffic.
[18:19] <thek> compdoc: and I forgot the most interesting: I can ping from the gw 10.0.0.1 to 10.0.0.6 but not the other way around.
[18:20] <compdoc> thek, you using a desktop version of Ubuntu? do you see the network icon in the bar at up right corner?
[18:20] <extropy> thek: `sudo iptables -S` will print up your current firewall rules
[18:21] <thek> compdoc: yes
[18:21] <thek> extropy: that is a good idea but I don't have iptables installed.
[18:22] <compdoc> open the icon and delete eth0 from there if it appears. My systems dont show that icon anymore, so theres a way to disable it
[18:22] <compdoc> thek
[18:22] <compdoc> maybe in the menu itself you can disable it use
[18:23] <extropy> thek: linux's firewall is built into the kernel, iptables is usually included with your linux distro by default to manupulate those rules
[18:25] <LigH> Hello. How can I check doublessly which window manager is currently used? I have a feeling that no matter what I do, Compiz is always used after a reboot, even if I try to make Metacity the default.
[18:25] <compdoc> extropy, it exists, but its not enabled by default that Ive ever seen
[18:26] <robotfuel> Does anyone know have their PC overheat when viewing html 5 webpages?
[18:26] <thek> extropy: hmm, ok. Apparently I do have iptables. And there are only three rules: -p INPUT ACCEPT \n -p OUTPUT ACCEPT -p FORWARD ACCEPT
[18:26] <robotfuel> know how to fix
[18:27] <zleap> http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/odroid-x-is-like-a-quad-core-raspberry-pi-for-129-20120712/  < runs ubuntu
[18:27] <rocketdave> I am trying to execute a file, but it says permission denied. ls -l says I am the owner, the group is root, and the bits are rwxrwx---...
[18:27] <Shirakawasuna> I'm having issues with X crashing (I think it's X), typically a little while after resuming from being suspended. Has anyone else encountered this or know what I can do to fix it? This has been happening ever since I switched from xubuntu-desktop to ubuntu-desktop
[18:27] <extropy> thek: that seems like a pretty standard blank firewall ruleset (allow everything)
[18:27] <thek> right
[18:27] <LigH> robotfuel: Clean the cooler? - The reason might be the 3D GPU usage.
[18:27] <extropy> thek: what about "iptables -L"
[18:28] <thek> It lists three empty headlines.
[18:29] <robotfuel> LigH: I had the same thoughts... I have an intel GPU, i've also cleaned the fans..
[18:29] <robotfuel> LigH: I think it might be a kernel bug.
[18:29] <extropy> thek: again, normal I think
[18:29] <extropy> you're trying to set your box to do static instead of dhcp and that's it right?
[18:30] <thek> I wonder if it is the ehternet card messing with  me. I just saw a log message stating the card went into promiscuous mode.
[18:30] <thek> extropy: Yes. When I shutdown yesterday, it was working fine.
[18:30] <LigH> robotfuel: Less kernel, rather intel drivers. Even Windows drivers for intel HD GPUs are crap.
[18:31] <thek> now I can ping from gw but otherwise the network is unreachable.
[18:31] <LigH> It seems that their OpenGL ICD does not even support some basic 2D texturing features correctly.
[18:32] <robotfuel> LigH:  the intel drivers are in the kernel :P  and probabaly buggy.
[18:32] <NewWorld> rocketdave:  are you a member of group root?
[18:32] <thek> extropy: if tcpdump reports that kernel drops packets, is that normal?
[18:33] <LigH> Hmm, nobody seems to know window managers anymore.
[18:33] <rocketdave> NewWorld: I am not sure, I haven't messed around with a fresh install if you know off hand... ill look up how to check
[18:33] <wolfgang__> I am trying to get a game for steam but need a different flash player how do i get it? i cant find the right one
[18:34] <NewWorld> rocketdave:  groups $USER
[18:35] <deneroso> Hi everyone...I having a Epson Tx125 problem with my 12.04 Ubuntu
[18:35] <rocketdave> NewWorld: thanks, it doesn't look like I am in the group... is that why I can't execute it? seems odd because I am the owner...
[18:35] <wolfgang__> I am trying to get a game for steam but need a different flash player how do i get it? i cant find the right one
[18:35] <messsias> boa tarde
[18:36] <NewWorld> rocketdave:  whoops, there shouldn't be a group "root". try just doing "chmod +rx" on the file and see if it executes
[18:37] <extropy> thek: what's going on in your /etc/network/interfaces config file?
[18:37] <wolfgang__> I am trying to get a game for steam but need a different flash player how do i get it? i cant find the right one
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> deneroso, is this printer in the printer search if you open printer?
[18:38] <InfiniteByte> wolfgang__:please don't spam. If someone knows how to help you, they will help you. Just have patiance :)
[18:38] <KKKV> hello, is there a free alternative / equivalent for autocad on ubuntu?
[18:38] <illuminata> so i'm trying to associate a file type in nautilus with an app that isn't listed in the open with dialog
[18:38] <illuminata> and ubuntu can't find it online
[18:39] <illuminata> is there no easy way to associate this short of making a .desktop file or whatever?
[18:39] <wolfgang__> Ifninitebyte, sorry i have been told on here to repeat my question if no one answers
[18:39] <Dr_willis> !info qcad
[18:40] <Dr_willis> illuminata,  ubuntu-tweak used to have a file assoication editor.. but ivbe not tried that in ages.
[18:40] <illuminata> i'll look into it, thanks. but if there's any devs reading this is pretty basic functionality if you ask me
[18:41] <illuminata> microsoft agrees
[18:41] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, if someone installs ubuntu on an external drive , should grub be installed as well ?
[18:41] <InfiniteByte> wolfgang__: ok,  but it hasn't to be that short time between the tries.
[18:41] <zleap> microsoft agrees with what ?
[18:41] <illuminata> being able to associate an unlisted app with a file type
[18:42] <illuminata> i can pick the binary from the file browser there
[18:42] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  it can go on the external or the internal.. best its on the external. because if its on the internal and you UNPLUG the external.. well.. grub wont work. :) but thats a good 'lockdown' i guess
[18:42] <zleap> OK
[18:42] <InfiniteByte> wolfgang__: what exactly do you mean, "a different flash player" something like "gnash" or just another version?
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> !pm } deneroso
[18:42]  * Dr_willis has seen Microsoft really mess up File assoications in the past..
[18:42] <wolfgang__> Infinitebyte, its says i need flash player 11 for other browsers
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> !pm | deneroso
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> deneroso, notice this some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[18:43] <illuminata> it might, but at least it doesn't artificially restrict your options when you wanna choose an app
[18:43] <Dr_willis> deneroso,  also many people totally ignore PM's for other reasons
[18:43] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis,yeah tha confirms my suspicions , lret's hope grub picks up the widows OS in it's menu
[18:43] <wolfgang__> Infinitebyte, the page it sends me to is http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
[18:43] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  it will/should.
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> personally I don't do PM's the channel is better use for getting help.
[18:43] <BluesKaj> ok thanks Dr_willis
[18:44] <Dr_willis> BlueEagle,  if you MOVE that HD to another pc.. the windows entries in its gryb may be incorrect
[18:44] <Dr_willis> BlueEagle,  you would need to boot to ubuntu, then rerun update-grub
[18:44] <NewWorld> Dr_willis:  I'm genuinely curious. Why would people want to actively ignore PMs?
[18:44] <Dr_willis> NewWorld,  i cant really 'read/see' them On my CellPhones IRC client.. so i tend to ignore them.. because i just dont see them.. they are offscreen
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> NewWorld, people randomly come on a PM rude stuff for example, and a PM can turn into babysitting as well.
[18:45] <Dr_willis> NewWorld,  and 90% of the time they are just newbies trying  things out with their irc clients.. or being pests. ;)
[18:45] <illuminata> now i dunno how much of this is an ubuntu thing or the gui apps i'm running but i can't open an smb share within apps either, even though it's a gnome-like dialog
[18:45] <Dr_willis> Or worse case.. someone decides to PM me their 100+ line log of errors  i asked for a pastebin of. :)
[18:45] <InfiniteByte> wolfgang__: you select you os, linux, and then the version. maybe the apt.
[18:45] <NewWorld> Oh OK)) I was just always wondering why people find it rude to PM without asking. Doesn't seem like bad manners
[18:46] <wolfgang__> Infinitebyte, the apt is what i tried but it still wasnt the right one
[18:46] <Dr_willis> illuminata,  normally gnome apps can handle the smb://type paths.. for other apps you may want to look in your .gvfs directory for the actual mounted share.
[18:46] <Xylidin> Hello
[18:46] <Xylidin> My firefox broke and my friend told me to put rm -r /
[18:46] <wolfgang__> InfiniteByte, Can i use the rpm?
[18:46] <Xylidin> now my computer won't turn on
[18:46] <illuminata> tried smb://, no go. browsed .gvfs and it acted like i didn't have the perms
[18:46] <Xylidin> what do I do
[18:47] <illuminata> but i did, because i was browsing in nautilus
[18:47] <OerHeks> Xylidin, reinstall.
[18:47] <Dr_willis> Xylidin,  you learned to not do that command....
[18:47] <thek> extropy: This is a standard entry : auto eth0 \n iface eth0 inet static \n etc  etc Just as you find it on the ubuntu 12.04 support pages for static network conf. However I saw in the syslog that NM is trying to guess connection type and assumes some attributes. That contradicts what the upper right icon reports when it states that wired connection unit not handled.
[18:47] <OerHeks> Xylidin, rm -r / does not do anything without sudeo.
[18:47] <Dr_willis> 'turn on' => hardware issue.. BOOT UP -> software issue perhaps...
[18:47] <LikeLakers2> Ignore Xylidin
[18:47] <zykotick9> OerHeks: Dr_willis the silly rm of root is pretty hard to do these days - systems don't typically allow it.  i smell a trolling attempt.
[18:48] <LikeLakers2> He said on another network for me to say that here
[18:48] <LikeLakers2> and when I told him I wouldnt
[18:48] <LikeLakers2> he said he would
[18:48] <thek> extropy: Is there any way to add static IPs using NM?
[18:48] <InfiniteByte> wolfgang__: you can use anyone of them. but you need to know how to install them. for rpm you need alien, i think
[18:48] <Dr_willis> You really shouldnt be using RPMS on ubuntu.. it can be.. well very bad.
[18:48] <Xylidin> obvious trolling is obvious
[18:48] <wolfgang__> InfiniteByte, i found the one it says and it is for windows. cant find it for ubuntu
[18:48] <mig47> hello
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> NewWorld, I guess you may not realize that we all see the world differently, what you find to be acceptable is your view only, even if someone agrees it will be for different reasons.
[18:49] <LikeLakers2> hey, what was that bot command to tell you not to say a certain command here?
[18:49] <thek> hmm.. whenever I select "manual" in NM the "save"-button gets greyed out.
[18:49] <LikeLakers2> I wanna relay that to him on the other network
[18:49] <deneroso> Hi, has anyone any idea of what could be the problem with the printer Epson Tx125 that doesn't print until the finish of the paper?
[18:49] <zykotick9> !danger | LikeLakers2
[18:49] <NewWorld> wilee-nilee:  I understand. But I could never figure out why anyone would find it rude. Seems to be fine to do it on forums, for example.
[18:50] <LikeLakers2> thanks zykotick9
[18:50] <NewWorld> xD
[18:50] <LikeLakers2> though I love the warning that they have for the other people
[18:51] <tobe_> is there a list somewhere or a program that shows which fonts are ok to delete?
[18:51] <ergo-24> I would ask when I woke up today I saw that world is like huge mathemathic equation and vector 2D graphic turn in to my brain into 3D xD
[18:51] <ergo-24> I feel it xD
[18:51] <ergo-24> Could some help?
[18:52] <NewWorld> ergo-24:  take a break from the drugs ;)
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> NewWorld, I don't particularly find it to be rude per-se depending on anybodies personal definition a rude but, when you ask for personal in life general you ask to ask.
[18:52] <ergo-24> nor drugs x))
[18:52] <Scunizi> ikonia: we were just talking in ##linux .. here's a description and solution in the forums.  The one I posed before using hal is one suggested by Adobe. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2034266&highlight=olympics
[18:53] <Viky> hi i am new to ubuntu 12.04 and i am facing an issue to connect mts mblaze modem in ubuntu. can anyone plz help me to solve my issue
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> NewWorld, this may not be the same in all cultures though, but good practice for me.
[18:53] <mauro> testomg
[18:53] <mauro> *testing
[18:53] <ergo-24> NewWorld no drugs just too huge distance to this world
[18:53] <ThinkT510> !ot | ergo-24
[18:54] <InfiniteByte> wolfgang__:  is steam  installed via wine or PlayOnLinux? Maybe the problem is with one of those
[18:55] <wolfgang__> InfiniteByte, wine
[18:55] <litropy> Hi, all. I installed build-essential and automake, but I still don't have autogen.sh
[18:55] <ergo-24> understood :)
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> So I have gparted crashing on opening in 12.04, but working fine from the the cli. I have purged it and reinstalled and still have this happening.
[18:55] <ergo-24> thank you very much :)
[18:56] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: how are you starting it when it work?  and how when it fails?  "gksudo gparted" does that fail or work?  if it fails - do you get any terminal output/errors?
[18:59] <InfiniteByte> wolfgang__: is this a problem with a "build in steam browser"?
[19:00] <wolfgang__> InfiniteByte, no idea it does that for videos on it. I assumed i cant play games if i cant watch vids on it is that wrong?
[19:01] <deneroso> Hi everyone...I having a strange problem with an Epson TX125. For any reason it doesn't finish the work, send the paper without finish the work. It was pretty good before. Some help?
[19:01] <InfiniteByte> wolfgang__: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19444 there is a section called "Playing promo videos through steam store" and it could help
[19:02] <InfiniteByte> wolfgang__: i dont think this problem will affect the abillity to play a game
[19:02] <wolfgang__> InfiniteByte, Oh sorry thank you
[19:03] <InfiniteByte> wolfgang__:bitteschön :)
[19:07] <zachP> Anyone, when I try to install something for example "apt-get install ntp ntpdate" it just says unable to write & the package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[19:07] <zachP> on Ubuntu Server 12.04
[19:07] <zachP> I can't get anything to install or update
[19:08] <ThinkT510> zachP: sudo apt-get install -f
[19:08] <paolooo> try sudo apt-get install....
[19:08] <deneroso> Salut, j'ai qq problemes avec une emprimente Epson TX125. Elle ne termine pas le process d'impression. Avant que la foile et le travail termine elle sorte la foile. Il y a q'un que peux aider?
[19:08] <DJones> !fr | deneroso
[19:08] <paolooo> Hi @all, I just installed ubuntu, I wan't to create another partition like "drive d:" in windows. HOw do I do that?
[19:09] <zachP> Doesn't work. And I should be root. I typed "sudo su" earlier. it says "not using locking for read only lock file"
[19:09] <deneroso>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[19:10] <zykotick9> paolooo: create a new partition, format it, then mount it.
[19:10] <paolooo> @zykotick9, thanks for your reply, how do i partition my drive, do I need to install software partitioner?
[19:11] <NewWorld> zachP:  Can you write to the disk at all? `touch /tmp/aoeu`
[19:11] <zykotick9> paolooo: gparted is popular with the GUI crowd
[19:11] <paolooo> awesome thanks I'll do that.
[19:11] <zachP> newworld: standby I will try
[19:11] <paolooo> zykotick9: Thanks
[19:12] <zachP> NewWorld: no it says read only...actually, let me reboot I seem to remember a problem with mounting on start-up (I am running encrypted LVM)
[19:12] <DarkSim> Oh ok let's get back to le questioning :D
[19:12] <DarkSim> Hello, I'm using 12.04 with xubuntu-desktop and I want to use my media control buttons on my Logitech G110 with music applications like Spotify, but they don't work, can I activate/set them?
[19:13] <slackguru> Afternoon everyone, does anyone know where some good discussion for GnuPG is going on? Since my recent upgrade to Precise it appears that all of the public keys I was storing have disappeared along with my private keys leaving me only with my secure shell key.
[19:15] <Degorth> hello all
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> I have gparted crashing on opening in 12.04, but working fine from the the cli. I have purged it and reinstalled and still have this happening.
[19:16] <NewWorld> DarkSim:  Most music players allow it, but I don't think Spotify. Can you think of a way to manipulate spotify from cli?
[19:16] <slackguru> DarkSim, You should be able to seet keys on that input device if you are using compiz.
[19:16] <DarkSim> Spotify does not allow any hotkey settings
[19:16] <NewWorld> wilee-nilee:  so you type in "gksudo gparted" and it starts fine. But from the menu it crashes?
[19:16] <DarkSim> and using the keyboard hotkey manager thingy, the keys are not registering
[19:17] <NewWorld> DarkSim:  I don't think Spotify allows it, it's not a very linuxy app, and the linux port is still in beta even
[19:17] <slackguru> How about GnuPG, anyone have any suggestions?
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> NewWorld, yeah very strange
[19:18] <DarkSim> I know, but not even Windows have those settings available and my keyboard works out of the box with that OS
[19:18] <Degorth> I upgraded my install of ubuntu 12.04 to Kernel version 3.5 and I can't install the proprietary Nvidia drivers anymore, has anyone else encountered this problem and maybe have a solution for it?
[19:18] <NewWorld> wilee-nilee:  when from menu, does it even ask for the root p/w? Right click the menu item and paste exactly the command that that menu item is executing
[19:19] <zachP> NewWorld: I think I found the problem, you made me stop and think. I edited a file having to do with the partitions in the tutorial. I am in manual recovery, I'm going to try and undo what I did earlier.
[19:19] <jase33> i copied a folder from within the root folder to the home folder using right click on folder and selecting Move to Home Folder. It went through the copy process but the folder never appeared in my Home Folder. I did see a 20gig drop in free hard drive space. I have looked in every folder but do not see it. What Happened?
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> NewWorld, it asks for the password, it is the regular process.
[19:19] <NewWorld> DarkSim:  do you now need help with making media keys work? They won't work with Spotify anyway as far as I know
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> NewWorld, crashes after the password
[19:19] <DarkSim> The thing is that they don't work with any application
[19:19] <NewWorld> wilee-nilee:  paste the full command that the menu item executes
[19:19] <DarkSim> only the volume roller, but it's linked to some other sound engine or what it's called
[19:19] <DarkSim> not to pulse that is
[19:20] <NewWorld> DarkSim:  you can use `xev` to check if Ub even detects the input from those buttons
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> NewWorld, not sure how to access that I'm using gnome 3.
[19:21] <BullittEV> can you set ubuntu to load into terminal/text mode instead of straight into the GUI?
[19:21] <DarkSim> NewWorld: Used that, it detects that..I think
[19:21] <slackguru> Does anyone have any information about GnuPG? After the upgrade to precise it appears all of my private keys and publick keys of others that I was storing on my keyring are no longer available. I can not generate new key pairs and I can not import keys from .asc files...
[19:21] <trism> !text | BullittEV
[19:21] <DarkSim> Just that I can't get a steady reading of what their ID is, but is there no other way to get it working than writing something on your own
[19:21] <NewWorld> wilee-nilee:  I don't know either. I think you right-click the Gparted menu item > properties? Or find gparted's .desktop file with `locate`
[19:21] <OMGUBUNTU>  Lol ok "unity --replace" wile using compiz and 20 apps open does couse a "HOLY**** OMGUBUNTU!"
[19:21] <BullittEV> ubottu: Thanks
[19:22] <OMGUBUNTU> You're not a bot! LOL
[19:22] <OMGUBUNTU> ubottu
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> NewWorld, I think you are on the right track, hold on I will look around.
[19:23] <NewWorld> DarkSim:  well, if the app allows you to map keys to functions you can just map them to those buttons. Otherwise you can set up global hotkeys, is that what you want?
[19:23] <jase33> hello...im new....i need help...anyone?
[19:23] <Degorth> jase33: what is the issue?
[19:23] <DarkSim> NewWorld: The settings on the OS doesn't even read them, or I don't have any idea how that works
[19:23] <jase33> i moved a folder and it does not show up. it took 20gig of hard drive space though
[19:23] <slackguru> jase33, you might try calling your local crisis center
[19:23] <Guest54749> !ciao
[19:24] <Guest54749> !list
[19:24] <DarkSim> Global hotkeys would be great, then they'd work with other media players
[19:24] <slackguru> jase33, try ls -la
[19:24] <NewWorld> DarkSim:  You mean in the keybind settings of Ubuntu you can map keys like Ctrl-A , but can't map the media buttons?
[19:24] <Guest54749> |lista
[19:24] <slackguru> the folder probably had the hidden property from its original location
[19:24] <Guest54749> !lista
[19:25] <davidrsmorris> hey, has anyone here compiled awesome?  I've been customizing my rc.lua and don't want to step all over the package.
[19:25] <Dr_willis> theres the XF85play and XF86Pause 'keys' that are like global keys for media keybords
[19:25] <Degorth> can anyone help me with my issue? I upgraded Ubuntu 12.04 to run on the 3.5 kernel and I can't install Nvidia drivers anymore from Additional Drivers
[19:26] <Degorth> they're there but every time I try to activate them it returns an error
[19:26] <Dr_willis> Degorth,  you will have to use the nvidia's run installer perhaps?
[19:26] <slackguru> Am I even here? Does anyone see what I am typing?
[19:26] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: your rc.lua in ~/.config/awesome ?  why would that effect the package?
[19:26] <Dr_willis> slackguru,  we see you
[19:26] <NewWorld> DarkSim:  With global hotkeys you can map to functions of a single app. If you want the same keybind to do different things to different apps, you will have to script it. And then map the keybind to the script
[19:26] <DJones> slackguru: Nope, can't see a word
[19:26] <Degorth> Dr_willis: so download the driver from their site instead then?
[19:26] <slackguru> Good, than my paranoia isn't just paranoia, I am actually being ignored
[19:26] <Dr_willis> Degorth,  if the one in the repos fails.. thats the other option.. good luck.
[19:27] <Dr_willis> Degorth,  upgradeing the kernel like that is well.. unsupported by here. :) so VERY good luck to you.
[19:27] <DarkSim> Oh geeze...that sounds horribly difficult :/
[19:27] <addon> hi iam using backtrack 5 and when i boot i get this error:the panel encountered a problem while loading: OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet
[19:27] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: well, I'm worried about the binaries.  do you know if the package is patched in ways that make it so I can't just download the source package and compile as normal after installing the ubuntu package?
[19:27] <DJones> !backtrack | addon
[19:27] <slackguru> Must be the whole PKI thing that has everyone put off to talk about.
[19:27] <Dr_willis> addon,  backtack  has its own support channels.
[19:28] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: why get it from outside the repo?  good luck...
[19:28] <addon> ok thanks
[19:28] <Dr_willis> slackguru,  you have a Ubuntu Support Question?
[19:28] <Degorth> Dr_willis: okay thanks. If it helps though the X Server controls still appears in the Unity menu, so maybe it's not entirely deleted?
[19:28] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: doesn't awesome look at rc.lua only at compile time?
[19:28] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: no, rc.lua is the config file....
[19:29] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: so when does it get read?
[19:29] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: everytime you start/restart awesome
[19:29] <NewWorld> DarkSim:  I dunno about you, but I only use 1 music player. What apps do you want the media buttons to work for?
[19:29] <Dr_willis> davidrsmorris,  normally when the WM starts up. :) some apps monitor their configs and reload them whenthey get changed
[19:29] <DarkSim> Probably one that plays video and one that plays music
[19:29] <DarkSim> I use Spotify mainly for music
[19:29] <DarkSim> A given :P
[19:29] <zachP> great...I seem to have frozen after attempting the "reboot" command in recovery mode.
[19:29] <slackguru> Yes, Dr_willis, since I upgraded to Precise, it appears that GnuPG has forgotten all my public keys for friends, and my own personal private keys. It will also not allow me to import public keys I saved in ASCII ARMORED files. Nor will it let me generate new keys.
[19:30] <davidrsmorris> hm, I'll try breaking it, my changes haven't gone into affect after multiple reboots.
[19:30] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: if changes aren't being applied, it's probably because your rc.lua is corrupt (and you get a default instead - until you correct the issue).  awesome configuration is a big pain somethimes.
[19:30] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: doe
[19:30] <addon> Dr_willis:when iam writing to backtrack-linux it says cannot send to channel :S ..
[19:30] <NewWorld> DarkSim:  Well all the good video players allow mapping keys from the program, like VLC and SMPlayer
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> NewWorld, I found the gpartedbin in /usr/sbin and it opens fine with a password I just made a launcher, and stuck it in my dock good enough for my needs really.
[19:30] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: is it possible I got the mask wrong from copying it from the basic one at /etc/xdg/awesome?
[19:30] <ghosh> hai anyone using ubuntu in toshiba L650? I heard ubuntu won't work well with toshiba
[19:31] <DJones> addon: You need to register your nickname
[19:31] <NewWorld> wilee-nilee:  great))
[19:31] <DJones> !register | addon
[19:31] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: that's where you should get it from.  i doubt it's permissions (but could be i guess?)
[19:32] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: if it defaults to something that works, how can I make a change that will be hard to screw up and easy to notice?
[19:32] <slackguru> Dr_willis, should I consider you lack of response to indicate that my question is not UBUNTU related?
[19:33] <shaneo> hey guys im trying to setup icegenerator to work with icecast2 two and keep getting this error while compiling icegenerator http://paste.ubuntu.com/1129446/.. Im running Ubuntu12.04 amd64
[19:33] <ghosh> hai anyone using ubuntu in toshiba L650? I heard ubuntu wont work well with toshiba
[19:33] <daedaluz> what would be a good application to automatically rename pictures by metadata? I'd like to rename a folder of photos according to date & time taken.
[19:34] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: rc.lua needs execute perms, doesn't it?
[19:34] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: no
[19:34] <ghosh> will ubuntu work well in toshiba?
[19:35] <zykotick9> ghosh: will blue paint work well on my wall?
[19:35] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: will awesome panic if it sees similar files, like rc.lua.save?
[19:36] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: no only rc.lua is read
[19:36] <uni4dfx> Anyone know this: Are X11 DISPLAYs global or per user?
[19:36] <Degorth> just curious here, is there a 'supported' way of upgrading the kernel in Ubuntu?
[19:36] <zachP> Anyone: I tried to reboot from root@server1~# (recovery), it seems to be continually working and I keep getting that tasks sh:905 and stty:935 were blocked for more than 120 seconds. Should I hard reset?
[19:37] <uni4dfx> Degorth best way is to add a kernel ppa and let it do the magic
[19:37] <LikeLakers2> zykotick9, mind if I send you a quick thing via pm?
[19:37] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: is there any way to ask awesome which rc.lua it read on startup?
[19:37] <zykotick9> LikeLakers2: i'd rather you didn't...
[19:37] <LikeLakers2> ok I wont
[19:37] <Degorth> uni4dfx: yeah i did that, though it told me some headers were missing, it seemed to work just fine except for my little driver issue now
[19:37] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: not sure.  but ~/.config/awesome/rc.lua is your best bet.
[19:38] <NewWorld> zachP:  So you do `sudo reboot` and it says those things and just hangs?
[19:38] <zachP> NewWorld: Yes
[19:38] <jase33> Degorth: i found the files and deleted them but it still shows my free space as low. any ideas why?
[19:38] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: for an easyish test, edit the mymainmenu items, and verify your menu changes
[19:39] <Degorth> jase33: no idea, I'm not really experienced in ubuntu
[19:39] <NewWorld> zachP:  Btw don't hard-reset. If you have to, use Magic SysRq  key shortcuts. It shuts machine down softer
[19:39] <jase33> ok thanks
[19:39] <zenguy_vm> how do i get vlc to launch on a second monitor connected by hdmi
[19:39] <jase33> anyone know why when files are deleted the free space does not increase?
[19:39] <zachP> NewWorld: Okay, thanks. Do you have a link to those? If not I will search.
[19:40] <NewWorld> zachP:  And since you said the root partition is mounted read-only, I don't think it's a big deal to reboot that way. And they're on google))
[19:40] <zenguy_vm> jase33,  check your trash
[19:40] <zykotick9> jase33: your using GUI to delete i take it (as rm delete instantly)?  probably moving to a trash
[19:40] <pranjal710>  /msg NickServ identify prabhasH
[19:40] <jase33> zenguy_vm: trash is empty
[19:40] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: Ok, I'll go do that.
[19:40] <davidrsmorris> thanks.
[19:40] <zykotick9> pranjal710: fail - new password
[19:40] <jase33> yes, using gui to delete
[19:41] <zachP> NewWorld: Okay, good. Yeah I found out what I did, I didn't add my line correctly in /etc/fstab and I just need to change it, but I am working on that since everything is read-only
[19:41] <zykotick9> jase33: on usb mounted stuff there is a trash per drive...
[19:41] <computa_mike> sorry - real noob question.  I'm trying to convert an mp4 file to divx - Isn't DivX Mp4?
[19:42] <NewWorld> jase33:  What about in ~/.local/share/Trash ?
[19:42] <zykotick9> computa_mike: mp4 is a container, divx is a codec.  two different things...
[19:42] <zenguy_vm> jase33,  run $ ncdu /  .. to see what's consuming all your space
[19:43] <Benkinooby> hi i messed with my system clock and now it falls out of sync, despite me resetting it several times a day. my hardware (=bios) clock is OK and in snyc. what can cause this behaviour?
[19:43] <zykotick9> computa_mike: fyi divx/avi is garbage - horrible container and codec that has no business on modern systems... (personal opinion only!)
[19:43] <NewWorld> computa_mike:  I think MP4 is a media file container , and DivX is a codec. That's the difference
[19:45] <davidrsmorris> :zykotick9: I'm back, tried changing the menu.  Looks like it's not loading that file.
[19:45] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: if there are ANY issues - it won't load.  did you make ANY other changes?
[19:45] <jase33> ncdu says im only using 5.5g of space. but file system properties says out of 128TB i have 5.4gb free?
[19:45] <computa_mike> zykotick9:  A quick followup - I'm running 12:04, trying to convert an MP4 to an AVI file with DIVx encoding - trying to avconv to do the conversion, but it's moaning that it doesn't recognise libxvid. have I made a typo there?
[19:46] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: No, is there any way to get some kind of debug information on it?
[19:46] <davidrsmorris> Can I run it in my own lua interpreter?
[19:46] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: "awesome -k"
[19:46] <zenguy_vm> jase did you type in: ncdu /
[19:46] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9:  can I run that with awesome up?
[19:46] <jase33> yes
[19:46] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: ya
[19:46] <jase33> it showed the largest folder as 3.0g
[19:46] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: it just checks config file syntax, and reports any errors
[19:47] <computa_mike> zykotick9: avconv -y -i "/media/ITunes/HungerGames/THG.mp4" -f avi -r 29.97 -vcodec libxvid -vtag xvid -s 640x480 -aspect 4:3 -maxrate 1800kb -b 1500kb -qmin 3 -qmax 5 -bufsize 4096 -mbd 2 -bf 2 -flags +4mv -trellis -aic -cmp 2 -subcmp 2 -g 300 -acodec libmp3lame -ar 48000 -ab 128kb -ac 2 "/media/ITunes/HungerGames/DIVX/THG.avi
[19:47] <zykotick9> computa_mike: good luck with that.  avi... i'm done.
[19:47] <E3D3> Does anyone knows what "crt viewing" exactly means ?
[19:47] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: It says config file syntax ok.  Of course, it didn't tell me which one.
[19:48] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: "awesome -c /path/to/rc.lua -k"
[19:48] <NewWorld> E3D3:  what's the context+
[19:48] <NewWorld> ?
[19:48] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: does that have to be absolute path?
[19:49] <computa_mike> zykotick9: never mind...  I've decided that I just don't know enough.. time to read up
[19:49] <E3D3> NewWorld, "whatis more" --> file perusal filter for crt viewing
[19:49] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: relative would work as well (as long as either are correct)
[19:49] <mernilio> Hi friends! Sad to say, but im banned from #ubuntu-offtopic :-(
[19:49] <davidrsmorris> mhm.  It's not the syntax, then.
[19:49] <mernilio> One should think its higher in roof in off-topic than here?
[19:50] <jase33> im just gonna reinstall ubuntu...issue seems wack...thanks for the help y'all
[19:50] <zachP> NewWorld: Thanks for that. I wish they had that back in windows98 :D
[19:50] <DJones> mernilio: You need to take it up with ops in the channel then, join #ubuntu-ops to discuss it
[19:50] <E3D3> NewWorld, Sorry. The shell-command 'whatis more' gave me that sentence. I know 'more' or 'less' but want to understand also this.
[19:50] <NewWorld> E3D3:  :o that's arcane. My guess is that CRT is cathode ray tube (the old-style, fat monitors). And more is a very very old program and is making reference to that? haha idk
[19:50] <nooo> Can someone help me figure out why my Ubuntu server is not handing out IP addresses?
[19:50] <mernilio> Btw.. it was an asian guy who banned me.. he didnt like the idea about penis size .. Western / asian guys..
[19:51] <mernilio> :-)
[19:51] <NewWorld> zachP:  np)) had what in w98? :)
[19:51] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: does calling awesome from a child of awesome restart awesome?  Can I restart awesome with the -c arg that way?
[19:51] <NewWorld> nooo:  What do you mean "hand out"?
[19:52] <nooo> the server doesn't seem to be either receiving the requests or sending the responses for DHCP leases
[19:52] <E3D3> NewWorld, I was afraid for it. It was the only hint Googling gave me. I thank you very much for helping. Hope you don't mind if I repeat this question until I find someone who know.
[19:52] <NewWorld> ok)
[19:53] <NewWorld> nooo:  I'm a big noob in networking stuff, but isn't it the router that assigns IPs to connected machines?
[19:54] <Benkinooby> NewWorld, that depends on the setup
[19:54] <nooo> the ubuntu server in this case is the router
[19:54] <NewWorld> now I know that's possible))
[19:54] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: oh, my $XDG_CONFIG_HOME seems to be empty.  Could that be a problem?
[19:55] <zachP> NewWorld: One little problem I am confident you can solve :) I need to edit /etc/fstab but it doesn't seem to let me because it is read-only...But everything is read-only because of an error while mounting...because of the file error (thanks to me). Any ideas?
[19:55] <davidrsmorris> zachP: can you boot into a livecd?
[19:55] <NewWorld> zachP:  I remember with `mount` you can give it something like "-o remount,rw" to remount it as read-writable. it's in the manual
[19:56] <zachP> Okay thanks
[19:56] <douglas> oi
[19:57] <zachP> Davidmorris: I suppose
[19:57] <davidrsmorris> zachP: NewWorld's solution will be faster.  You won't have to reboot twice.
[19:57] <enoyzal> Is there any way to get hdmi sound to work its missing from alsamixer
[19:58] <zachP> Okay
[19:58] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  hey, what is your problem with awesome? maybe I can help; I use it
[19:58] <Benxyzzy> You can start a command with a space to prevent it being recorded in bash's history. Is it stored anywhere else, or can I be safe there's no record of the command anywhere on the system?
[19:58] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I can't get it to read my rc.lua in my home directory$XDG_CONFIG_HOME.
[19:59] <davidrsmorris> sorry, hypervigilant clipboard.
[19:59] <Labil> Hmm. I'm trying to a run a .sh script with screen & I get : Sorry, could not find a PTY.
[19:59] <nooo> Here is my current iptables config and a brief decription of the problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1129486/ I could use some help with tracking down the cause
[19:59] <Labil> I googled and found a solutation that I had to "# mount devpts /dev/pts -t devpts -o mode=620" but now screen just auto terminates
[20:00] <paolooo> hi @all, can you please tell me about this partition: http://imm.io/zg9k ? Is that fine? I would like to create another partition - like "drive d:" in win...
[20:00] <mshadle> i'm having problems with /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70proxy.conf not being honored if $http_proxy environment variable is set. does anyone know how to make sure apt-get overrides the proxy ENV variable?
[20:00] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  Check what it says in ~/.cache/awesome/stderr
[20:01] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: no file there.
[20:02] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  is this the awesome that you compiled on top of the Ubuntu repository Awesome pkg?
[20:02] <codepoet> Hi! n00b here. I updated my grub recently and now my Windows is not booting. Ubuntu is working fine. Can anyone help??
[20:02] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: this is just the package.
[20:02] <NewWorld> Labil:  screen as in GNU screen? That's not a program that executes shell scripts.
[20:03] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  Your rc.lua is in ~/.config/awesome/   right?
[20:03] <codepoet>  Hi! n00b here. I updated my grub recently and now my Windows is not booting. Ubuntu is working fine. Can anyone help??
[20:03] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: yup.  and awesome -k says the syntax is OK.
[20:04] <Labil> NewWorld, Um screen as in the application where I can run it in the background or however you would express it... :P
[20:04] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  What makes you think that it's not running rc.lua ?
[20:04] <arwa1> hello
[20:04] <arwa1> i'm new here
[20:04] <Labil> The .sh files looks like this '#!/bin/sh
[20:04] <Labil> screen java -Xincgc -Xmg4G -jar craftbukkit-dev.jar
[20:05] <NewWorld> Labil:  Yeah, so you start screen and you get multiple terminals. Then put in the command and it crashes?
[20:05] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I changed the label "debian" to "apps" on the menu and restarted awesome.  The menu text didn't change.
[20:05] <Labil> It happens when i ./start.sh
[20:05] <Labil> And screen +x says theres nothing to attach to
[20:06] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris: Could you pastebin that section.... maybe I could spot something wrong with it?
[20:06] <arwa1> anyone has an idea how to hack from ubuntu?
[20:06] <Labil> I think that's considered off-topic arwa1 :p
[20:06] <zachP> NewWorld: Okay, almost there, when I try to remount, it mentions an "unrecognized mount option" which is part of the line I entered incorrectly in /etc/fstab. It mentions "jqfmt=vfsv" which is supposed to be "jqfmt=vfs0". Any way to call it with the 0 from command line?
[20:08] <NewWorld> zachP:  What even is "jqfmt=vfsv" is? what does it mean?
[20:09] <zachP> NewWOrld: standby I will look at the tutorial
[20:09] <gr33n7007h> Is it best to stay with 10.04 or upgrade to 12.04?
[20:09] <NewWorld> Labil:  If I run "screen xterm" for example it also doesn't start. Why do you need "screen" in that shell script?
[20:10] <arwa1> I'm using 12.04 it's great
[20:10] <Labil> Also, another thing.. I was sitting in WinSCP and putty at the same time, and I realised i capitalized a folder name I was in 'Folder' i renamed it in (winscp) to lowercase 'folder' however I kept navigating and -wget'in some files in putty, when i restarted putty I realised the capitalized folder was gone and all its contents, where did they end up? :D
[20:10] <zachP> It is in a line that has to do with the program "quota" which is supposed to be installed (couldn't install cause software sources fail to be fetched...soo many probs) which is written in /etc/fstab having to do with the partitions. Your guess is good as mine, I am a complete newb.
[20:10] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: http://pastebin.com/ZN4AKMTT I think it is in order.
[20:10] <Labil> NewWorld, To run it in the background
[20:10] <Labil> I only have remote access, so I can do other stuff aswell
[20:10] <gr33n7007h> arwa1, Is it buggy?
[20:11] <nooo> Could someone here help me figure out why my linux router is not assigning IP addresses? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1129503/
[20:11] <Labil> And I need to be able to read the console log it generates and perform commands at times
[20:11] <E3D3> NewWorld, I'm Dutch & just learned that crt is a common English abbreviation. Thanks again for helping while I was silly. That's why the other channels kept quiet ! Bye.
[20:11] <NewWorld> E3D3:  So what does it actually mean?
[20:12] <Guest2559> part
[20:12] <E3D3> Someone from #bash confirmed 'our' guess.
[20:13] <E3D3> NewWorld, UNIX is filled with fossiles ;)
[20:13] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  super-silly question, but did you reload awesome?
[20:13] <NewWorld> E3D3:  so is it cathode ray tube?
[20:13] <E3D3> Yep
[20:13] <NewWorld> ok)
[20:13] <minimec> nooo: Dumb question: Is the 'ufw' firewall service running on your system? Could that give you some conflicts?
[20:14] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: Yup.  And have rebooted a few times since making changes elsewhere (adding Delightful widgets).
[20:14] <zachP> NewWorld: Here is a pastebin for you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1129512/
[20:15] <Labil> ls
[20:15] <Labil> oops wrong monitor
[20:15] <nooo> what's ufw?
[20:15] <NewWorld> Labil:  You can run stuff in background by appending "& disown %" this way, iirc even if you close the that terminal it will continue running.
[20:15] <Labil> NewWorld, But can I resume it via putty?
[20:15] <minimec> nooo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[20:16] <nooo> Looks like it's installed, but I never enabled it.
[20:16] <E3D3> NewWorld, I also like "man - an interface to the -->on-line<-- reference manuals". Here 'on-line' = 'opposed to printed'. Are those manuals written by monks ?
[20:16] <minimec> nooo: the ufw service is started by default in ubuntu I think.
[20:16] <nooo> I just ran the ufw disable command, still not assigning leases
[20:17] <minimec> nooo: terminal: sudo service ufw status
[20:17] <nooo> Status: inactive
[20:17] <minimec> nooo: ok
[20:17] <NewWorld> E3D3:  hahahah, maybe back then online meant on the harddisk as opposed to on paper? xD
[20:17] <zachP> lol
[20:18] <zachP> NewWorld: Here is what I was talking about in a pastebin, but I must go now, thanks for the help PM if you have any ideas based on it, thanks very much: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1129512/
[20:18] <minimec> nooo: I have to agree that I don't deal with iptables. So I would not be able to check your pastebin...
[20:18] <promet> Heya, I'm trying to setup a Postfix/Dovecot server, I'm running on an alternate port, is there a way to stop Postfix from spitting out port 25 connection errors,so I can clean up mail.log a little bit for troubleshooting?
[20:19] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  I just tried it. In rc.lua go to the bit where it says "table.insert(menu_items, { "awesome", my ............" that's where you have to add/change the debian menu item
[20:19] <Labil> Nvm it was a java error not screen
[20:19] <nooo> I'm attempting to reset iptables now to not block anything
[20:19] <NewWorld> zachP:  I'll look at it and PM if I know, see you))
[20:19] <zachP> NewWorld: Thanks a million!
[20:19] <minimec> nooo: good idea
[20:20] <E3D3> NewWorld, Without trying to troll, I really think this kind of ancient bullshit should disappear from the start of essential stuf (like 'man man'). How can millions of happy penguins ignore such  bad start ?
[20:20] <domtron> NewWorld: hay just got my cli working again, i just had to run autoremove. thanks for all the help :)
[20:20] <NewWorld> great))
[20:21] <sambagirl> what is realserver? does it use multiple ports?
[20:21] <sambagirl> is that from real.com?
[20:21] <Dr_willis> NewWorld,  i recall many computer 'labs' in the 80's  that had HUGE printed books of the 'man' pages..
[20:21] <CynepCupon> can someone please tell me what the xf86 video driver is?
[20:22] <Dr_willis> NewWorld,  i used to IRC on a 'green bar' printing terminal.. picture a Dot matrix printer with a keyboard..no actual screen. ;)
[20:22] <nooo> hmmmm
[20:22] <nooo> still nothing
[20:22] <minimec> nooo: Found this on google about the iptables reset. Also see 'comment 1'. http://insanelabs.com/linux/linux-reset-iptables-firewall-rules/
[20:22] <NewWorld> E3D3:  Dr_willis : to me ancient referencs like that are historical. To willis - they are nostalgic xD
[20:22] <emjayess> hi all - doing some accidental sysadmin work on a server I inherited, and trying to identify some characteristics of the box...
[20:23] <hirsty> heya all
[20:23] <hirsty> ive found that my ralink adapter has a dat file with connection information in
[20:23] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: hm, so your rc.lua seems to look a lot different from mine.  Did you use the ubuntu package too?
[20:24] <hirsty> could i have some help setting it up please? not sure if thats the issue
[20:24] <nooo> Yep, reset manually and used that script, still not coming through
[20:24] <emjayess> cat /etc/*-release indicates it to be a ubuntu 10.04 instance, but is it normal for lucid to have the following output from cat /proc/version??
[20:24] <emjayess> Linux version 2.6.18-274.3.1.el5.028stab094.3 (root@rhel5-build-x64) (gcc version 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-46)) #1 SMP Thu Sep 22 13:24:07 MSD 2011
[20:24] <ThinkT510> emjayess: no
[20:25] <nooo> minimec, I think it's safe to assume at this point that iptables is not blocking the requests at this point. Perhaps it's something with the dhcp server?
[20:25] <emjayess> ThinkT510: I thought that was odd
[20:26] <marsfligth> how to create a link to a folder that if i delete the link the folder remain untouched? i mean the same behavior as MS link (*.lnk)
[20:26] <minimec> nooo: Are these cards configured via /etc/network/interfaces or via the network-manager?
[20:26] <Dr_willis> marsfligth,  a soft link works that way.
[20:26] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  ooops, sorry. That bit is not part of the default config, I'll look into this some more
[20:26] <nooo> Looks like neither?
[20:27] <nooo> ah
[20:27] <openvoid> marsfligth, ln -s folder link
[20:27] <nooo> etc/network/interfaces
[20:27] <minimec> nooo: Could you pastebin that one?
[20:29] <paolooo> hi @all, anyone can help me about my partition http://imm.io/zg9k Is that a correct paritioning?
[20:29] <nooo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:29] <nooo> oops
[20:29] <nooo> lol
[20:29] <nooo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1129536/
[20:30] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  Hmm yeah, can'tn see anything wrong. Did you try starting awesome with "-c" and pointing to the rc.lua? Otherwise you should try asking at #awesome on the OFTC IRC
[20:31] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I use a display manager, it's a session, I don't call it myself.  And I'm pretty sure if I killed X it would restart.
[20:31] <ThinkT510> paolooo: it works but i don't know why you would want them that big
[20:31] <hirsty> anyone got the 3060 chipset working on ubuntu 12.04LTS (64 bit)???
[20:31] <emjayess> ThinkT510: I have dpkg and apt-get installed, i'm perplexed as to why /proc/version woud hint at red hat...
[20:31] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: can I restart it with added args somehow?
[20:31] <Dr_willis> davidrsmorris,  stop the lightdm service and it wont restart.
[20:32] <emjayess> tho i've only (practically) ever administered ubuntu boxes,
[20:32] <hirsty> if so would love a walkthrough :(
[20:32] <ThinkT510> emjayess: i have no idea, this a server?
[20:32] <emjayess> yeah
[20:32] <mrgenixus> hi.  Is there a version or configuration of ubuntu that will install its own updates?
[20:32] <emjayess> one i'm about to retire :)
[20:32] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris: which display manager?
[20:32] <paolooo> @ThinkT510, thanks for the reply. That's my HD size. I'm planning to partition it, d: and e:
[20:32] <mrgenixus> I just need the critical ones, and a way to install a trigger that reboots the system at midnight if a kernel update was installed
[20:32] <livingdaylight> hi
[20:32] <emjayess> but, first i need to do some migrations and trying to admin the firewall, without messing it up
[20:33] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: The one that ships with ubuntu, I assume that's GDM still.
[20:33] <ThinkT510> paolooo: do you need a 200+gb root partition?
[20:33] <livingdaylight> I installed 'anarchism' from Synaptic but can't find it. How can I see where it was installed to?
[20:33] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  sec lemme try something
[20:34] <hirsty> could do with help asap :D will give any debug info required
[20:34] <mrgenixus> lightdm is the new Display Manager, by default ( davidrsmorris / NewWorld )
[20:35] <paolooo> @ThinkT510, hehehe, I'm new to ubuntu os, that's why I don't if I have correct partitioning. Can you please give an advice. Thank you.
[20:36] <ThinkT510> paolooo: how many OS's are you going to have on the disk?
[20:36] <paolooo> ThinkT510: just ubuntu
[20:36] <minimec> nooo: I guess the interfaces file is correct. Yet again I probably cannot help you with the dhcp3 server. Sorry.
[20:36] <ThinkT510> paolooo: any reason you have a swap partition inside an extended?
[20:36] <mrgenixus> well, have a good one
[20:36] <nooo> :<
[20:36] <lun0> Q3 TIME, plaga.upexia.nl
[20:37] <nooo> Im trying to run a tcpdump now to try to get a better idea of why its not working
[20:37] <CynepCupon> what does a swap partition do?
[20:37] <paolooo> ThinkT510: no, I just followed the installation tutorial in youtube.
[20:37] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  yeh killing Awm throws you out of X :P Just to make sure it's using ~/rc.lua , can you make a change to that becomes visible?
[20:37] <ThinkT510> paolooo: well it must be a bad tutorial if it suggests that layout
[20:38] <paolooo> ThinkT510: wew, yeah! she said it should be the twice of my RAM.
[20:39] <ThinkT510> paolooo: thats not the issue, why is it in an extended partition?
[20:39] <marsfligth> Dr_willis: and openvoid: Thanks for helping
[20:40] <paolooo> ThinkT510: I'm not really sure. :(
[20:40] <paolooo> ThinkT510: Should delete it?
[20:40] <nooo> my router is receiving the requests, I can see them with tcpdump, and it's sending the replies I think
[20:41] <minimec> nooo: How does this define the network range? range "10.1.2.100 10.1.60.254;" Are these ips correct?
[20:41] <nooo> yes they are in the same subnet 255.255.192.0 (10.1.0.0/18)
[20:41] <ThinkT510> paolooo: its doing no harm, it just doesn't make any sense
[20:42] <CynepCupon> how can i tell if my graphics card is MUXed or MUXless?
[20:42] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: well, I successfully killed X, but I still can't call awesome.  It can't open the display.
[20:42] <paolooo> ThinkT510: ah I see, but I can remove it in the future right? using gparted?
[20:42] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  Is that a new problem? Awesome won't start now?
[20:43] <ThinkT510> paolooo: you'd need to recreate the swap partition afterward but yeah
[20:43] <paolooo> ThinkT510: ah ok
[20:44] <livingdaylight> I installed 'anarchism' from Synaptic but can't find it. How can I see where it was installed to?
[20:44] <paolooo> ThinkT510: so what do you suggest now? Should I delete it? /sda1 and /sda5
[20:44] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: if it is a cli app it wouldn't show in the menus
[20:45] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: well, it's supposed to start by lightdm, so I'm going to reboot to get it up again.  But the thing is, $XDG_CONFIG_HOME is empty, and referred to in the awesome man, so I wonder if that's the problem.
[20:45] <nooo> ok, strange
[20:45] <ThinkT510> paolooo: up to you
[20:45] <nooo> I added a fixed address in the dhcpd.conf file and it worked for that machine
[20:45] <nooo> so why isn't it picking them from the range? O_o
[20:45] <paolooo> ThinkT510: but I just can't. delete option is disabled.
[20:46] <ThinkT510> paolooo: you have to delete the partition inside first
[20:46] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510, is there a clever command which would tell me where on my system synaptic installed it?
[20:46] <minimec> nooo: Well at least you are 'isolating' the problem. I would call that a success...
[20:46] <ThinkT510> paolooo: to do that you need to swapoff if it is in use
[20:46] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510, how would I launch it? is the other question. It didn't say that it was an app
[20:46] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  That's a really good idea. Define that var in /etc/profile
[20:46] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: i think you are thinking of windows layout
[20:47] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  define AND export
[20:47] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: type it from a terminal
[20:47] <nooo> minimec, indeed!
[20:47] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510, command not found
[20:48] <Dr_willis> XDG_CONFIG_HOME would default to the users HOME directory i would think. or ~/.config
[20:48] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: how did you install it?
[20:48] <paolooo> ThinkT510: yes, I just deleted the partition: http://imm.io/zgrt
[20:48] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510, synaptic
[20:48] <ThinkT510> !info anarchism
[20:48] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  and then reboot and it should be defined globally
[20:49] <minimec> noo if you use 'simple ranges' like this (for a change) "range 10.1.2.100 10.1.2.254;"
[20:49] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510, if you open synaptic and search, you'll find 'anarchism' It looks like info, so, don't know why its in synaptic. I was curious though, and installed it
[20:49] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: what is it meant to do?
[20:50] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510, provide information?
[20:50] <minimec> nooo: see here... http://nwlinux.com/how-to-configure-dhcp3-server-in-ubuntu-server/
[20:50] <ghano> oran
[20:50] <minimec> nooo: in firefox <ctrl>f "This block will define" as search term...
[20:50] <ThinkT510> livingdaylight: check if it has a man page
[20:51] <ghano> machicola
[20:51] <livingdaylight> man anarchism
[20:51] <nooo> minimec, thanks, the only new thing I see there is the 'allow unknown-clients'
[20:51] <nooo> looking that up now
[20:51] <livingdaylight> ThinkT510, livingdaylight@voyager:~$ man anarchism No manual entry for anarchism
[20:52] <vbendeb> guys, anyone knows what
[20:52] <vbendeb> 's the deal with intermittent etherenet connectivity in 11.10?
[20:52] <Dr_willis> why not fire up synaptic and look at what files  the anarchism package installed.. if its some sort of books - the /usr/share/docs/ dir may be where its at
[20:53] <Dr_willis> samba-doc package also just installs a lot of books to one of the docs directories.
[20:53] <vbendeb> I experience 50% or so packet loss even pinging the local router
[20:53] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: Just made those changes, I'll reboot now
[20:54] <tomreyn> livingdaylight: i think the implementation is still missing, therE's only a set of documents so far.
[20:54] <livingdaylight> tomreyn, and where are they? I used commands 'locate' and 'which' but got nothing. I don't know where synaptic installed these docs to
[20:55] <tomreyn> dpkg -L anarchism
[20:55] <tomreyn> lists all files of this package
[20:57] <hjubal> What is the syntax to save the password value in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/XXX ?
[20:57] <subman> I don't seem to be able to get a folder to be writable from another computer over the network.  I have enabled sharing and can read files from the folder, but I cannot write to it.  Is there some hidden setting that I'm missing?
[20:57] <emjayess> ThinkT510: advice from #rhel indicates it to be an ubuntu vps virtualized (via openvz) over a custom rhel kernel (so, administer as ubuntu)
[20:57] <CynepCupon> is it possible that openSUSE will be better for gaming on a laptop?
[20:58] <sprink> in aptitude, when I do a search, how can I search for exactly "ruby", and not "ruby-blah blah"
[20:58] <sprink> There's like a billion ruby packages, but I just want to look at the information for the "ruby" package
[20:58] <sprink> is there some way to tell aptitude to be exact?
[20:59] <livingdaylight> tomreyn, thank you. I knew there had to be a command which shows where synaptic installed what it installed
[20:59] <livingdaylight> tomreyn, what does the -L mean?
[21:00] <zelesnikar101> need help! my touchpad is not working in 12.04 its an elantech touchpad! it is detected and has driver but it does not respond to any input!
[21:00] <tomreyn> livingdaylight: I guess it stands for "list", but the man page may tell you, or --help
[21:00] <zelesnikar101> any suggestions?
[21:01] <livingdaylight> tomreyn, how did you know to use dpkg -L ?
[21:01] <zelesnikar101> i used apt-get install
[21:02] <tomreyn> sprink: i'm not using apritude these days, i have the feeling it's deprecated, but if i recall correctly, it uses regular expression syntax for the search.
[21:02] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: my awesome came back up after the reboot... with nothing different at all.  And I remembered to export that variable, it's visible from my term.
[21:02] <tomreyn> sprink: meaning that ^ruby$ or ruby$ _may_ get you what you are looking for
[21:03] <tomreyn> livingdaylight: i've used dpkg for a while. it's a basic debian / ubuntu utility.
[21:03] <sprink> tomreyn: perfect. thank you
[21:03] <sprink> that worked
[21:04] <NewWorld> XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/home/danb/.config , XDG_CACHE_HOME=/home/danb/.cache . Like that? Dunno if no cache dir is what's breaking it. But whenever something in my rc.lua is messed up, awesome throws me back to the default RC
[21:04] <tomreyn> livingdaylight: and if you run "man dpkg" or "dpkg --help",  which works with most commands, you'll see what options are supported
[21:04] <livingdaylight> tomreyn, thx
[21:05] <tomreyn> sprink + livingdaylight: you're welcome
[21:05] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  Check msg ^^ . Also, can yo umake a visible change in ~/rc.lua and reload to see if that rc.lua is the one that's used or not?
[21:05] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: the menu change and delightful widgets would have popped up.
[21:06] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  so it seems that it's using /etc/xdg/awesome/rc.lua instead?
[21:06] <xrq> I have a monitor (catleap yamakasi Q270), with 2560x1440 @100mhz. ubuntu can't detect *any* resolution, how do I force this settingt?
[21:07] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I feel like making a visible change to /etc/xdg/awesome/rc.lua to test that theory.
[21:08] <emjayess> so, a follow up question to anyone who might have been paying attention? if i have an ubuntu vps virtualized via openvz on a rhel host, will i be able to admin iptables like I'm used to? or shouldnt' I even try
[21:09] <brophat> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:markus-tisof/rt3090 returns cannot access PPA please check internet connection
[21:09] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: It indeed is still loading the global one.
[21:11] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  I've had a thought. Check `ps -elf | grep awesome` and see what user runs it? maybe root?
[21:13] <pmdz> Hi all. My 64bit installation of Ubuntu can see only 3.2GB of RAM out of 4GB. Graphic cards is Intel HD3000. Any ideas why?
[21:13] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I think it'll just be easier to change the global file.  Noone else uses this system.
[21:13] <davidrsmorris> And I have other wms and am keeping a backup.
[21:13] <DJones> pmdz: Shared graphics with the Intel card?
[21:14] <DJones> !atemyram | pmdz This may have some pointers as well,
[21:14] <tomreyn> pmdz: either what DJones said or you installed a 32 bit variant
[21:14] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  I was gonna suggest that, but check if you have an stderr / stdout file like I do in ~/.cache/awesome
[21:14] <pmdz> pmd@daftbook:~$ uname -a
[21:14] <pmdz> Linux daftbook 3.2.0-29-generic #46+kamal5~DellXPS-Ubuntu SMP Sun Jul 29 18:49:08 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:15] <tomreyn> pmdz: okay that indeed looks like 64 bit
[21:15] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  see you are missing those and the rest of the files in directories ~/.config/awesome and ~/.cache/awesome
[21:16] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: Well, that broke it.  But the syntax is fine.
[21:17] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  what broke?
[21:17] <davidrsmorris> Moving my rc.lua to the global one broke awesome.  SO I think I'll copy the backup back there.
[21:18] <tomreyn> pmdz: that's a custom built kernel image, based on ubuntu's generic one, right? have you tried to run the original ubuntu one?
[21:19] <tomreyn> pmdz: and finally, how do you "see" your RAM?
[21:19] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  I'm really curious, could you check which user owns process awesome? root?
[21:19] <vbendeb1> guys, anyone knows what's the deal with intermittent IP connectivity on Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:19] <vbendeb1> It looses 50% of the ping packets or so even when pinging the local gateway
[21:20] <vbendeb1> the same machine over the same interface is perfectly fine when running Windows...
[21:20] <blz> Hello, I'm looking for an open source network music player.  I have an XBMC box setup in one room and I'd like to access the *music only* in another room.  Any suggestions?
[21:20] <DJones> pmdz: Try running this command to see how much memory is being used by the graphics card, mine says AGP aperture is 256M and when I check memory, I see 3.7 out of 4gb which makes sense -> dmesg | grep AGP
[21:21] <blz> It should go without saying that it should run on ubuntu ;-)
[21:21] <pmdz> tomreyn: I tried stock kernel, same situation. free -m, top, htop - every tool is reportin 3.2GB
[21:21] <zelesnikar101> need help! my touchpad is not working in 12.04 its an elantech touchpad! it is detected and has driver but it does not respond to any input!
[21:21] <pmdz> DJones: agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xe0000000
[21:22] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: dmorris  13832  0.1  0.2 158552  8772 ?        Ss   17:19   0:00 awesome
[21:22] <louiemat> What is the best way to file share between to ubuntu machines?
[21:22] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I think it knows it would fail, and so loads the global one -- I had to use the unity wm to fix that.
[21:23] <tomreyn> pmdz: does this report the same meory usage by your intel GPU? sudo lspci -knnv | grep -A10 VGA
[21:23] <anonbit> hey there folks, was wondering if I could get some help with an issue I started having after updating to 12. Immediately after updating all of my active torrents stopped and I started getting a "Tracker gave HTTP response code 0 (No Response)
[21:23] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  I agree. Whenever I loaded a broken rc.lua it used the default one. Probably those delicious widgets :P
[21:23] <tomreyn> pmdz: maybe opst that output and also that of 'free -m'
[21:23] <tomreyn> *post
[21:24] <CynepCupon> is it ok to upgrade to kernel 3.4.7????
[21:24] <tomreyn> ...on a pastebin, not here
[21:24] <NewWorld> louiemat:  To just send files over? Or have a shared hard drives? So it would be like accessing a normal folder - just over a network?
[21:24] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I'll try commenting out those widgets then adding them one by one if it loads.
[21:24] <pmdz> tomreyn: http://pastebin.com/Di7FTjkG
[21:25] <louiemat> Shared hard drives accessed like normal folders.
[21:25] <zorael> How can I regenerate /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin?
[21:25] <DJones> pmdz: Try "sudo lshw" you should get something like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/171881/only-3-2gb-ram-out-of-4gb-usable-on-64bit-installation-dell-xps-13
[21:26] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  Btw so you get dirs like ~/.cache/awesome , here is a list of my XDG vars that were there automatically since yours seem to be missing. Maybe you can adapt them: http://pastebin.com/ddPaiwr3
[21:26] <zorael> (nevermind, dist-upgrade fixed it)
[21:26] <louiemat> NewWorld: Share hard drives accessed like normal folders.
[21:26] <NewWorld> louiemat:  samba
[21:26] <pmdz> DJones, actually question that you pasted is posted by me
[21:26] <louiemat> NewWorld: Thanks very much!
[21:26] <NewWorld> np)
[21:27] <DJones> pmdz: Ah, didn't notice that that, my 4gb system gives the same response to lshw but I see 3.7gb available
[21:27] <Sinusoidal> How do I upgrade my mono runtime to 2.8? The software center has an older version
[21:27] <pmdz> DJones, trust me, I will not digg around for answer If I will se 3.7 GB :) but I think 800GB reserved by system is way too much
[21:29] <CynepCupon> is it recommended to keep kernel 3.2?
[21:29] <DJones> pmdz: Just saw in another thread, somebody with same issue on a dell inspiron was using an old bios which had a wrong memory map, causing the bios to only recognise 3.2Gb of the installed 4gb
[21:29] <CynepCupon> or can i upgrade to 3.4.7?
[21:29] <tomreyn> DJones: THIS OTHER THREAD WAS POSTED BY THE SAME PERSON ;)
[21:29] <pmdz> DJones, my bios is newest available and reporting 4096 MB of RAM
[21:30] <tomreyn> whoops sorry about the caps
[21:30] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I'm gonna also undo the change to my /etc/profile... that's sure to mess something up.
[21:30] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  They point to the right place? What would they mess up?
[21:31] <DJones> pmdz: Seems odd, I'd be tempted to try a livecd of another distro to see if it can be narrowed down to ubuntu or hardware
[21:31] <tomreyn> pmdz: your output looks fine, i have no explanation other than a kernel issue. have you reviewed the logs?
[21:31] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: I guess I'm just being superstitious.
[21:31] <tomreyn> pmdz: yes, try grml or similar
[21:32] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  I think logically, if anything else after /etc/profile want to set that var it will just supersede it
[21:33] <pmdz> tomreyn, nope, I wasn't reviewing the logs, I'm too newbie to read them. I can post dmesg output if you wish to read it.
[21:34] <pmdz> tomreyn, DJones: thank you guys for helping. I will try some live distros, and depending on result the next step will depend on results. Hope to see explanation fast since Ubuntu will support my laptop officially in close future (Dell XPS 13, see project sputnik)
[21:34] <davidrsmorris> NewWorld: yup, and it looks like it was my delightful widgets.  Thanks, I'll be looking through those very carefully.
[21:35] <pmdz> tomreyn, DJones: omg, what a mess I wrote. Hope you get the point :) thanks again
[21:35] <NewWorld> davidrsmorris:  why did this problem take so long to fix? XD
[21:35] <tomreyn> pmdz: /var/log/kern.log is what yuou should look into, not so much dmesg in this case
[21:36] <tomreyn> pmdz: but, yes, try another distro's live cd first, just to see whether it's generic
[21:36] <hjubal> Why if I select "Wireless --> security" different from "None" then "Save" button get disabled?
[21:37] <tomreyn> pmdz: try ones with very different kernel versions, and if you can reproduce it on all of them, try on a different OS, too. e.g. there's windows live CD's (based on Bart PE) which could work for this, too.
[21:39] <theadmin> Anybody know if Muon (in Kubuntu) grants access to everything that the Gnome version's Software Center does?
[21:39] <cypher-neo> theadmin: Yes, it does
[21:40] <shadaloo> hi
[21:40] <theadmin> cypher-neo: Including the paid stuff? Because that's what interests me, I see no "Paid applications" group
[21:40] <shadaloo> my ubuntu distro upgrade froze during install and the sytem doesn't start anymore
[21:40] <cypher-neo> theadmin: The only things that are not included in Muon are the paid advertising packages that USC pushes on every page.
[21:40] <shadaloo> is there a key shortcut for recovery console?
[21:40] <shadaloo> my screen just goes blank during startup
[21:41] <Alycat> Could somebody help me access the internet please?
[21:41] <cypher-neo> theadmin: And why would there be a paid section? Kubuntu is no longer supported by Canonical.
[21:41] <klj613> with 'screen'. how do i delete a session/screen.
[21:41] <cypher-neo> theadmin: You can install the USC on Kubuntu though if you need to.
[21:41] <BluesKaj> shadaloo, hold the left shift down right afte the bios scrn
[21:41] <theadmin> shadaloo: AFter your BIOS POST, hold Left Shift, there is a "Recovery mode" entry in the Grub menu which'll appear
[21:41] <theadmin> cypher-neo: Thanks, that's all I needed to know
[21:41] <shadaloo> theadmin righteous
[21:41] <tomreyn> shadaloo: hold down shift during boot, then from the menu select the recovery option
[21:42] <tomreyn> oops i'm late
[21:42] <minimec> shadaloo: can you start the system with the old kernel? --> press left "shift" button after the bios boot screen of your computer.
[21:42] <Alycat> *I am on my Windows 7 laptop. I need help getting the internet on my desktop, which I just installed Ubuntu on.
[21:42] <BluesKaj> I guess the left shift is unanimous then :)
[21:43] <cipi> hi
[21:43] <hjubal> klj613, just logout the console
[21:43] <devtekalpha> I think you need to look up what internal wificard your laptop has and find the linux driver
[21:43] <cipi> do you speak freanch plese
[21:43] <Alycat> There is no wifi card. I'm on a LAN network.
[21:43] <BluesKaj> !fr | cipi
[21:44] <klj613> lol. thanks.
[21:44] <cipi> lol
[21:45] <Alycat> Okay, this is unhelpful. Is there a phone number I can call to get personalized service?
[21:45] <BluesKaj> cipi, lol?
[21:45] <tomreyn> yes there's commercial support available from canonical
[21:45] <tomreyn> amongst other
[21:45] <BluesKaj> !volunteers
[21:46] <Alycat> I was unaware that these are volunteers. Pardon me for being frustrated. Thank you for you help!
[21:47] <klj613> on 'screen -list' the list is ugly, is there anyway to set title for each screen session? i've stried ctrl+a A but doesnt affect the list
[21:49] <pleclerc38> hi
[21:49] <pleclerc38> je peut avoir de laide svp
[21:49] <theadmin> So, I heard Aptitude on Ubuntu is pretty much broken when working with multiarch, is that so?
[21:49] <theadmin> !fr | pleclerc38
[21:49] <hirsty> Good evening gurus my wireless i have finally got running :D
[21:49] <pleclerc38> !fr
[21:50] <theadmin> hirsty: Congratulations, anything else we can help with?
[21:50] <hirsty> now another problem..........my Microsoft wireless mouse keeps freezing after a while -_-
[21:50] <hirsty> Microsoft Wireless Mouse 1000
[21:51] <hirsty> however, my wireless keyboard on the same transceiver seems to work fine regardless
[21:51] <theadmin> hirsty: Have you tried removing the accursed Microsoft logo? (just kidding, don't mess with your mouse lol)
[21:51] <hirsty> im assuming ubuntu cant wake it from a sleep state or something
[21:52] <theadmin> hirsty: Actually I have experienced random mouse freezes in Ubuntu even with wired devices, but that was ages ago (10.04)
[21:52] <ozpy> Hello. I run ubuntu 12.10. Unity does not start when I initialize. I have to go to the terminal and run it from there
[21:52] <hirsty> well this happens like 10 minutes in and the only fix ive found so far is a reboot.....and yea...thats annoying
[21:53] <ascheel> LVM question.  Is it possible to add a 3TB partition to an LVM pv?
[21:53] <tomreyn> ozpy: Ubuntu 12.10 is not released, yet.
[21:53] <minimec> ozpy: Try #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 questions
[21:54] <ozpy> thanks
[21:55] <tomreyn> hirsty: try plugging the transceiver into another usb port, like on the back of your PC if it's a desktop, or the other side of your notebook if it is one. this can help.
[21:55] <theadmin> ascheel: I'm not sure, but I honestly don't see why not, as long as that size does not exceed your filesystem's limits. And I have no idea what the limits are.
[21:55] <tomreyn> hirsty: also consider using the PS connector of the transceiver, this almost always helps in such cases.
[21:56] <manas_b> hi. I am having difficulty with getting a microphone to work. is there somewhere that i can check if the microphone is muted?
[21:56] <theadmin> hirsty: Are you on a laptop (notebook)? If so, do you have a touchpad? If so, try disabling it. Somehow, this helped with the mouse problems I had back on 10.04
[21:56] <ascheel> theadmin: the confusion is that you can't label a partition as lvm if it's >2tb.  I think i can still add a GPT partition to an LVM pv, though.
[21:56] <NewWorld> manas_b:  try `alsamixer`
[21:56] <hirsty> no i am on a custom built desktop
[21:57] <theadmin> manas_b: Run "alsamixer" on the terminal, look for things that say "MM". Scroll to them with arrows, press "m" and then hold the up arrow. Mics seem to be muted by default.
[21:57] <hirsty> and have tried turning the mouse off and on changing usb port whilst still logged in
[21:57] <hirsty> and as it stands i do not have a ps2 to usb converter
[21:57] <hirsty> is there a more permenant fix that you know of?
[21:57] <manas_b> NewWorld: theadmin: I will try that
[21:59] <manas_b> i have changed the three things under "capture" to full volume. i am still not able to record voice in sound recorder
[21:59] <tomreyn> hirsty: not off the top of my head. look into power management. or try a newer kernel version.
[22:00] <NewWorld> manas_b:  In Capture (F4) try changing input source to your mic
[22:00] <brophat> supposedly 12.04 fixed the rt3090 chipset problems yet my connections runs slow and sometimes disconnects
[22:00] <tomreyn> hirsty: also what theadmin said about turning off touchpad is worth a try
[22:01] <NewWorld> manas_b:  And makes sure that Capture sliders are activated (with spacebar)
[22:01] <hirsty> its a PC
[22:01] <manas_b> how do i do that, NewWorld?
[22:01] <tomreyn> hirsty: oh right :)
[22:01] <brophat> and the network manager says the driver being used is rt2800pci
[22:01] <NewWorld> manas_b:  for Input Source slider Up/Down
[22:01] <hirsty> and there it goes again :/
[22:02] <moment> hey guys how do i find out what package manager is installed on linux
[22:02] <tomreyn> hirsty: is this a new development? has this happened before?
[22:02] <hirsty> hmm?
[22:02] <tomreyn> moment: if you're on ubuntu then your package manager is dpkg
[22:02] <hirsty> its been happening since i installed
[22:03] <tomreyn> hirsty: i'm wondering whether this happens with other ubntu / other linux distro / other OS versions, too
[22:03] <Rpley> dpkg, oh course
[22:04] <zorael> Anyone using fcitx? I can't make sense of some of the settings
[22:04] <tomreyn> hirsty: ...with the same hardware / firmware configuration
[22:04] <hydrox24> hirsty: does the mouse still appear (or does the receiver) in the output of lsusb?
[22:04] <manas_b> NewWorld: I changed where it says capture to be 'Mic'. I am using sound recorder to test, still no voice.
[22:04] <CynepCupon> how can i tell if i have a MUXed or MUX-less video card?
[22:05] <NewWorld> manas_b: what kind of mic is it? USB? Internal laptop mic?
[22:05] <manas_b> NewWorld: it is a simple mic, it attaches to the microphone jack on the back of my computer
[22:06] <zachP> Thanks for the help all, night
[22:06] <NewWorld> manas_b:  Could you take a screenshot of your alsamixer in the Capture view?
[22:08] <manas_b> NewWorld: http://manas-0.no-ip.org/png/alsamixer.png
[22:08] <klj613> i ssh with -X. can open chromium (as its not already open) but firefox is. anychance i can open up a pre-existing browser? so i can look at tabs etc. (i assume this is a no but want to make sure).
[22:10] <manas_b> I have used this mic on another computer and I believe it is fully functional
[22:11] <NewWorld> manas_b:  hmmmm sorry I'm out of ideas on how to troubleshoot this
[22:11] <manas_b> i appreciate the help
[22:12] <xrq`> I'm trying to set up a new monitor. right before the login screen the monitor goes black.  I've tried a manual setting for GRUB_GFXMODE in /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/00_header but still no luck.  how do I get my monitor working?
[22:15] <xrq`> !monitor
[22:16] <claque> monitor
[22:16] <claque> !monitor
[22:16] <claque> what
[22:16] <tomreyn> CynepCupon: you'd need to ask your hardware vendor to know for sure. But you can also just try whether Ubuntu detected that you have a MUXed one. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[22:22] <HaltingState> I cannot watch movies in full screen and i cant prevent the screen from being maximized
[22:22] <HaltingState> the launcher is going over the movie in full screen and its resizing the window when i defocus
[22:25] <hydrox24> HaltingState: are you talking about youtube?
[22:26] <HaltingState> OMFG I hate Unity!!! I am watching video in mplayer and i set it to a size and then it is resizing it maximize when i defocus
[22:26] <HaltingState> and this happens in other apps too; like sublime
[22:26] <HaltingState> and i cant play video in fullscreen either in mplayer because unity sidebar pops out
[22:26] <HaltingState> i went in CCSM and i disabled everything and UNITY is still resizing my windows; this is unusable
[22:28] <klj613> penis
[22:29] <brophat> I did an apt-get update and it W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/markus-tisoft/rt3090/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[22:30] <Dr_willis> as a test. try making a new user and see if the issue also affects them HaltingState
[22:30] <Dr_willis> brophat,  that ppa seems to be down, or has been removed
[22:30] <spectrumfever> hello
[22:30] <HaltingState> Dr_willis, how do i create a new user
[22:30] <Dr_willis> sudo adduser billgates
[22:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[22:30] <tomreyn> brophat: you have configured a PPA which is not/no longer working
[22:31] <brophat> how do I find out if it is just temp down or perm down?
[22:31] <Dr_willis> look at the ppa's homepage perhaps.
[22:31] <spectrumfever> have a little problem with gens and kega fusion on the newest ubuntu. I get no menus at all with it. Here is a screenshot i took. http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg576/preston1975/Screenshotfrom2012-08-04232241.png
[22:32] <torched_platypi> am I connected to this right?
[22:32] <spectrumfever> I hope someone can help as its doing my head in lol
[22:32] <Dr_willis> spectrumfever,  you could try disabling the global menu with spefific apps. I forget the exact way to do it. but the webupd8 site i recall showed how. You export a variable befor you run the app via the cli.
[22:32] <torched_platypi> oh hi. excellent, I think I got my IRC working.
[22:32] <addon> how can i have all the priveleges on a specific folder on an account?
[22:32] <manas_b> hello torched_platypi
[22:33] <torched_platypi> hi. I am glad I managed to get IRC working.
[22:33] <manas_b> irc can be difficult
[22:33] <tomreyn> spectrumfever: start here: https://launchpad.net/~markus-tisoft
[22:33] <n2deep> On 12.04, How do I stop the update-manager GUI from trying to upgrade a package I need to hold back at a specific version?
[22:33] <tomreyn> spectrumfever: it doesn't seem to exist anymore, though
[22:33] <spectrumfever> ok thank you
[22:34] <torched_platypi> yeah. took me a sec to figure out servers vs. channels
[22:34] <spectrumfever> damn
[22:34] <cipi> re
[22:34] <cipi> slt
[22:34] <cipi> sa va
[22:34] <brophat> tomreyn that is too bad cause that was supposed to be the fix for my crapy hardly working rt3090 wifi network chipset
[22:34] <cipi> and you
[22:34] <spectrumfever> some distros i can run these emulators but in others i get this all the time
[22:34] <Dr_willis> export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=    && appname
[22:34] <cipi> what are you doing ?
[22:34] <Dr_willis> would set the global menu off for that specific app.
[22:34] <spectrumfever> ah ok i will try that now
[22:34] <Dr_willis> APPMENU_DISPLAY_BOTH=1 digikam
[22:35] <addon> how can i have all the priveleges for a specific folder on an account?
[22:35] <Dr_willis> might also work.. :)
[22:35] <manas_b> do you use ubuntu torched_platypi
[22:35] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/67767/how-do-you-disable-the-global-menu-in-digikam
[22:35] <torched_platypi> i dual boot it with windows7
[22:35] <tomreyn> spectrumfever: brophat: https://launchpad.net/~markus-tisoft/+archive/rt3090/
[22:35] <tomreyn> << was blind
[22:35] <n2deep> Dr_willis: does that go in my ~/.bashrc file??
[22:36] <manas_b> nice setup
[22:36] <tomreyn> spectrumfever: brophat: it's no longer supported, though
[22:36] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/10481/how-do-i-disable-the-global-application-menu/133005#133005
[22:36] <Dr_willis> n2deep,  you can test it from a shell.
[22:36] <brophat> tomreyn how is it possible that the rt3090 chipset is supported by the manufacturer but does not work in ubuntu?
[22:37] <Dr_willis> brophat,  bug in the kernel i would imagine.
[22:37] <brophat> tomreyn ralink supplies the sourcecode
[22:37] <n2deep> Dr_willis: thank you, I will look at that.
[22:38] <n2deep> Dr_willis: the udev update that just went out is broken, so I'm trying to hold that back without having to remebre to uncheck the box everytime.
[22:39] <n2deep> its kind of a big deal, udev. I hope there is a patch soon.
[22:39] <brophat> Dr_willis wouldn't I be able to get the driver for the rt3090 in the software center?
[22:39] <medeman> Hey there!
[22:39] <addon> hi how can i have all the priveleges for a specific folder on an account?
[22:39] <medeman> I have a problem with the trackpad in an ASUS EEEPC
[22:40] <Dr_willis> !permissions | addon
[22:40] <medeman> The X101H model of the EeePC
[22:40] <medeman> The cursor is going around randomly sometimes.
[22:41] <addon> Dr_willis:thanks
[22:41] <tomreyn> brophat: it's supported, the code is even mainline, i.e. no need to install any drivers.
[22:41] <medeman> That problem first happened with 11.10 after a few weeks, then I thought that it might be fixed in 12.04, so I upgraded to that version. The problem was gone. However, now the problem started again...
[22:41] <medeman> Any ideas how to fix that?
[22:42] <brophat> tomreyn then why does my wifi work like junk?
[22:42] <tomreyn> brophat: the kernel module is rt2800pci. you do need the firmware blob, though.
[22:42] <tomreyn> brophat: have a look at this, might help you: https://wiki.debian.org/rt2800pci
[22:42] <brophat> tomreyn my wifi manager is showing rt2800pci is the driver being used
[22:43] <tomreyn> brophat: do you have the firmware installed?
[22:43] <brophat> tomreyn I never installed any firmware no
[22:43] <brophat> tomreyn how do I do that?
[22:44] <medeman> Anyone?
[22:46] <brophat> tomreyn what is it called that I need to do? get the firmware for the rt3090 chipset?
[22:46] <zh> When I run $PATH the output ends with "No such file or directory." Is that in reference to the last path in the list? If so, I have this path, what's going wrong?
[22:47] <Dr_willis> zh,  run? $PATH is a system variable..
[22:47] <Dr_willis> echo $PATH
[22:47] <medeman> No one to help me?
[22:47] <iza> ja
[22:47] <iza> siema
[22:47] <tomreyn> brophat: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[22:48] <zh> Dr_willis: Thanks. Lesson learned. :)
[22:48] <brophat> tomreyn and then reboot and I am done?
[22:48] <medeman> Guys,
[22:48] <tomreyn> brophat: you shouldn't need to reboot, but this should work, yes
[22:48] <medeman> I need help^^
[22:49] <iza> hey
[22:49] <tomreyn> brophat: i'm assuming you're on ubuntu 12.04 all along btw.
[22:49] <iza> how about that ?
[22:49] <brophat> tomreyn yes haha :)
[22:50] <brophat> tomreyn so after that command a reboot and I am done?
[22:50] <iza> gan ce gal
[22:50] <iza> hey merval
[22:50] <medeman> Guess I'll ask again tomorrow then
[22:51] <tomreyn> brophat: it's worth a try. i don't have any experience with this driver since i tend to buy hardware which is well supported on linux
[22:52] <n2deep> The correct way to tell the update-manager GUI to keep a package at a specific version forever is to open synaptic package manager and select the package, then from the menu choose, "lock version"
[22:52] <brophat> tomreyn I would pay a thousand bucks for the book you got that tells you the well supported hardware
[22:52] <n2deep> update-manager will honor what you force in synaptic. Which is really nice!!
[22:53] <HaltingState> Dr_willis, i fixed it; you have to disable snapping windows and the other one in ccsm
[22:54] <HaltingState> place windows and snapping windows
[22:54] <tomreyn> brophat: find 5 others like you and pass half the money in advance and i'll write it. ;-)
[22:54] <brophat> tomreyn what I don't understand is that command seems to be installing all non free firmware. so how does that new firmware for my rt3090 know to go to my card?
[22:54] <Dr_willis> HaltingState,  cant say ive had any issues with snapping windows. ;)
[22:54] <tomreyn> brophat: alternatively you could save your money and just look on the web.
[22:55] <brophat> tomreyn looking on the web does not save money because of the opportunity cost
[22:55] <brophat> the 300 hours it takes to make ubuntu work, it turns out to cost the same as windows bwahahaha
[22:55] <merval> 300 hours?
[22:55] <Yvan256> Test
[22:55] <brophat> tomreyn ok i am gonna reboot
[22:56] <brophat> merval i been trying to get this rt3090 to work for a long time
[22:56] <Yvan256> Hello, I need help to burn a bootable Ubuntu ISO from Mac OS X. Can anyone tell me how?
[22:56] <tomreyn> brophat: so this firmware package installs several different firmwares to your hard disk. when the kernel driver starts up it looks whether this firmware is present. if it is, it uses it. if it is not, it may try to do things as well as it can.
[22:58] <tomreyn> Yvan256: this sounds like an OS X question to me. I would assume you'd insert the blank cdrom / dvd, a cd logo would display on your launcher, and you could drag and drop the iso image to it. but that's just a guess, i hardly know OS X, and this is #ubuntu ;)
[22:59] <tomreyn> i bet there is something like #osx
[22:59] <merval> brophat I had that same kind of issue with a broadcom card on my laptop a few years ago, recent versions of ubuntu find it no problem now
[22:59] <tomreyn> merval: try again, he was gone
[22:59] <devtekalpha> Im trying to install a torrent client called transmission but i get error: dpkg dependency problem prevents configuration.... Transmission deoends on transmission-gtk(+/=2.61-0ubuntu1) does this mean if i install gtk 3 it will work?
[23:00] <merval> brophat I had that same kind of issue with a broadcom card on my laptop a few years ago, recent versions of ubuntu find it no problem now
 brophat: so this firmware package installs several different firmwares to your hard disk. when the kernel driver starts up it looks whether this firmware is present. if it is, it uses it. if it is not, it may try to do things as well as it can.
[23:00] <Yvan256> Okay then, Ubuntu question... is there any media server program compatible with iTunes? ex: have a Ubuntu server that can serve files to an AppleTV, etc.
[23:01] <merval> RhythmBox is the best thing I've seen to iTunes.
[23:01] <Yvan256> not looking for DRM-compatibility, only the media server/client side of things
[23:01] <Yvan256> I'd rather install Ubuntu on my mother's laptop then subject her to Vista once again
[23:02] <tomreyn> Yvan256: i did that, and it works well for both of us for some years now.
[23:02] <brophat> tomreyn well my wifi is still wroking crappy
[23:02] <brophat> tomreyn you sure firmware for my rt3090 was in that list of firmware that I downloaded?
[23:03] <tomreyn> brophat: i'm not
[23:04] <Yvan256> tomreyn: you did what that works well?
[23:04] <kantian> devtep: you might consider 'Deluge' as an alternate torrent clinet
[23:05] <dpupp> Hi, Im running ubuntu 12.04 and I am having issues running my bluetooth Targus mouse.  It shows as connected but it is not pairing. I was wondering what I can do to trouble shoot this?
[23:05] <kantian> jianfi hi
[23:05] <tomreyn> brophat: sorry, wrong package. i'll look into it.
[23:06] <tomreyn> Yvan256: install ubuntu on my mom's laptop
[23:06] <tomreyn> and remotely support her from time to time
[23:06] <Yvan256> tomreyn: ah ok, thanks
[23:06] <Yvan256> why is the ISO 700MB when a regular CD-R is only 650MB?
[23:08] <Yvan256> All I have to burn the ISO is either 650MB CD-Rs or 4.7GB DVD-Rs. Will it work anyway?
[23:08] <tomreyn> brophat: the package you need is just linux-firmware, not linux-firmware-nonfree.
[23:08] <tomreyn> brophat: but i assume you already have the linux-firmware package installed
[23:09] <brophat> tomreyn cool bro so what is the command I use?
[23:09] <brophat> tomreyn it is ok i installed the non free maybe now some other stuff will work better bwahahaha
[23:10] <tomreyn> brophat: ro see if you already have it:  dpkg -l linux-firmware | tail -n1
[23:10] <brophat> I get ii  linux-firmware                         1.79                                       Firmware for Linux kernel drivers
[23:11] <brophat> tomreyn does that mean I have it?
[23:11] <tomreyn> brophat: it's already installed.
[23:11] <brophat> tomreyn so is that it? wifi is working as best it can on linux?
[23:13] <JohnTeddy> Is there an explanation anywhere why the partitions are the way they are by default on Ubuntu?
[23:13] <JohnTeddy> eg, swap, boot, /home, etc
[23:14] <Vlan> sorry guys, how do i show grub at the startup to choose recovey mode? ESC doesnt work...
[23:14] <brophat> tomreyn can you recommend a good pcie or mini pcie wifi network card for ubuntu
[23:14] <gvo> vlan hold left shift key down.
[23:14] <Vlan> gvo: thank you i will try that now
[23:15] <brophat> anybody can you recommend a decent not too expensive pcie or mini pcie wifi network card  that definitely is well supported by ubuntu?
[23:16] <tomreyn> brophat: not off the top off my hat. i didn't need to buy one lately, and now you'd probably want a proper 802.11n one.
[23:16] <davidrsmorris> Hey, anyone still here who uses Awesome?  I'm looking for debug information.
[23:16] <merval> brophat I've not had much experience with wireless on ubuntu. I have a USB 54g wireless I use from time to time but it just works when I plug it in.
[23:18] <brophat> merval i was looking for a specific make and model
[23:18] <Vlan> gvo: unfortunately i just get a prompt for half a second ad then it loads the desktop
[23:18] <Vlan> i'm using 12.04
[23:18] <brophat> tomreyn yeah for sure 802.11 n, and another twist now with ubuntu is you gotta worry bout 32bit or 64bit
[23:18] <merval> brophat have you checked the Supported hardware help page?
[23:18] <tomreyn> brophat: start by finding a good driver and chipset. then look for products including this chipset. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_wireless_drivers#Linux
[23:19] <gvo> Vlan Don't just press it, hold it down
[23:19] <brophat> merval that hardware page will say someting works even if it barely works
[23:19] <brophat> tomreyn yeah easier said than done
[23:19] <Vlan> gvo: i've hold it down for like 2 minutes, is it possible that i have no grub installed?
[23:20] <tomreyn> brophat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWireless
[23:20] <tomreyn> brophat: and for your current hardware: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WirelessTroubleshootingProcedure
[23:20] <brophat> tomreyn been there done that
[23:21] <tomreyn> brophat: all of it?
[23:21] <brophat> tomreyn i think the elephant in the room is that lets face it, hardware manufacturers don't support linux, therefor, we are toast
[23:21] <gvo> vlan If you saw it come up for a half second it's there. I have never had that problem.
[23:21] <merval> brophat I feel your pain man.. I was in your shoes about 3 years ago.
[23:21] <tomreyn> brophat: nah that's wrong
[23:22] <merval> it's not that were toast.
[23:22] <merval> Dev's will write drivers for hardware. it just takes time
[23:22] <brophat> merval i think we all need to form a circle, get on our knees and just realize hardware manufacturers don't support linux. game over
[23:22] <DethSone> my Ubuntu just randomly logged itself out, but un-like all the other times it keeps logging itself out, it wasn't under any full-screen graphics environment, is there some sorta log I can access?
[23:23] <davidrsmorris> Or we could picket hardware driver writers with bricks as signs.
[23:23] <merval> it's no upto the hardware mfg though brophat. People can write drivers for hardware.
[23:23] <brophat> I think what linux needs to do is have specific linux hardware, and if yu want to use linux then you gotta buy this hardware, much like apple does
[23:23] <brophat> I think linux should adopt the apple model
[23:23] <tomreyn> lol
[23:23] <merval> brophat, 90% of apple hardware is designed by apple to run apple. that's why it works so well.
[23:23] <gvo> brophat: fud
[23:23] <Yvan256> thanks for the help, gotta run
[23:23] <Qualia> So while using 'mv' utility, how do I type my current folder ?
[23:23] <brophat> merval exactly and that is what linux should do
[23:24] <tomreyn> Qualia: .
[23:24] <merval> Mac OS X = Spin off of neXT OS = Spin off of BSD = Type of Unix
[23:24] <brophat> but of course you can always try your own hardware, but however, have official linux hardware
[23:24] <davidrsmorris> Qualia: you shouldn't need to.  If you type without beginning with a /, it will be a relative path, and each folder contains a folder called ".." which is its parent.
[23:26] <brophat> ok, at least be better at listing what hardware definitely works
[23:26] <Qualia> davidrsmorris, yeah but moving a file from my home folder to the current folder, it doesnt work
[23:26] <Qualia> mv ~/myfile.c <current folder>
[23:27] <brophat> cause as it is now if a network cared is supposed to provide speeds of 10 mb/s and linux gets you 1 bit/s it will go down as supported bahahahahaha
[23:27] <merval> something I always dislike about Operating Systems is the fact that some of them are designed for people who want stuff to just work. While you have other operating systems that can be tweaked and hacked and made to do whatever you want them to do but you get people who want them to simply work trying to use it and then you end up with frustration and people walking away from such an amazing operating system.
[23:27] <davidrsmorris> Qualia: mv ~/myfile.c myMovedFile.c
[23:27] <Qualia> i should type the name again ?
[23:27] <Qualia> :(
[23:28] <brophat> merval the only reason I have not walked away from linux is because where I am going to go?
[23:28] <davidrsmorris> qualia: when using mv, you always have to type out the full filename for the target (destination).  You can use that to rename files, too.
[23:28] <gvo> Qualia: . is the current folder/directory.
[23:28] <Qualia> great
[23:29] <Qualia> dot!
[23:29] <gvo> Yes
[23:29] <merval> brophat do what I did for my wife. Buy a used Mac
[23:29] <Qualia> i appreciate your help guys, have a nice day
[23:29] <gvo> mv /home/xxx/afile.c .
[23:29] <davidrsmorris> Um, so does anyone here play around with window managers?
[23:29] <hutch6072> hello... umm sad so say it but a got a SUPER noob question for you guys
[23:30] <merval> hucth6072 what's up?
[23:30] <merval> hutch*
[23:30] <brophat> merval I am just saying that linux should do  much better job at making a list of supported harware. and when it claims it is supported it should meet a high standard. even if it comes down to only one mother board, on wifi card, etc.....
[23:30] <hutch6072> I want to get ride of windows but.... the only last problem iam am having is seeing the HD I have hooked to my router
[23:30] <tomreyn> brophat, merval could you please take it to a more suitable place, such as #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[23:30] <hutch6072> i am beyond a noob to the unix life and need a crazy amount of help
[23:30] <hutch6072> lol....
[23:31] <brophat> tomreyn did not know that room existed thanks I am gonna check it out
[23:31] <manas_b> help there is plenty of
[23:31] <roninn> force you use must
[23:31] <davidrsmorris> I'm trying to figure out why awesome rejects my ~/.config/awesome/rc.lua, does anyone know what files to check?
[23:31] <gvo> brophat Linux isn't one person/group/company etc.  Your comments are out of line
[23:31] <merval> hutch6072 You have a hard drive hooked to your router and want to see it in ubuntu?
[23:31] <davidrsmorris> hutch6072, check out linux phrasebook, it helped move me along.
[23:31] <hutch6072> yes sir i do
[23:32] <davidrsmorris> And what is the HD?
[23:32] <hutch6072> I have given about 10 attempts to this situation I am trying to deal with.... but no fix will work
[23:32] <merval> hutch6072 is the hard driving acting a backup for your network?
[23:33] <davidrsmorris> hutch6072: you mean a network attached storage?
[23:33] <theforgewright> Hello! Having an issue installing Ubuntu on a laptop with a broken monitor. I can't get it to swap to the external.
[23:33] <Vlan> gvu: sorry, how do i check if i have grub installed?
[23:33] <hutch6072> no its an active drive... I download my movies and music straight to it than use them from all other devices such as my cell and tablet
[23:33] <theforgewright> The install itself went well, but now booting it up it seems it's defaulted to the laptop monitor and is ignoring the HDMI one
[23:33] <merval> theforgewright: generally laptops have built in display changers, I believe FN + F2 is the standard
[23:34] <theforgewright> FN+f4 does nothing, it seems
[23:34] <theforgewright> That's the display changer on this laptop
[23:34] <davidrsmorris> hutch6072: so you mean it stands alone, or you're trying to share a drive?
[23:34] <tomreyn> Vlan: do you mean the grub package or the boot sector?
[23:34] <merval> hutch6072: When you are in windows does the drive mount into windows like a network drive?
[23:35] <merval> theforgewright: can you see anything on the montior you have? or is it fubar
[23:35] <hutch6072> the drive is hard lined into my router my windows laptop, droid, and tablet can get into it easy.... but not my laptop with ubuntu 12.04
[23:35] <hutch6072> I have it set as a mapped drive
[23:35] <theforgewright> It's fubar, backlight's dead. I can kinda make out shapes with the aid of a flashlight, but I can't see the mouse or anything detailed.
[23:35] <davidrsmorris> Hmm, might want to try samba if you can use it with windows.
[23:35] <merval> hutch6072: mapped drive is windows speak for network drive
[23:35] <tomreyn> theforgewright: chances are it doesn't activate the external monitor by default but you need to do it manually (using software and configurations)
[23:36] <hutch6072> it took no effort at all but with ubuntu... kinda wannna smash my screen
[23:36] <tomreyn> theforgewright: are you into the linux shell, i.e. working with a temrinal?
[23:36] <tomreyn> *terminal
[23:36] <hutch6072> I hate windows.... but for some small time user it seems easyer... *is that a word?
[23:36] <merval> hutch6072: have you tried searching for network drives?
[23:36] <theforgewright> I'm fine working with the terminal
[23:37] <merval> hutch6072: the word your looking for is easier
[23:37] <theforgewright> If the monitor was set as a secondary, working at all, I know how to get xrandr to set things straight
[23:37] <tomreyn> theforgewright: do you know which video card you have ther eon this laptop?
[23:37] <theforgewright> 9800 GTS mobile
[23:37] <merval> hutch6072: What version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:37] <tomreyn> theforgewright: okay, xrandr would be my plan, too
[23:37] <davidrsmorris> hutch6072: if you're comfortable using the terminal, you might be looking at smbclient and other samba stuff.  It uses the same protocol as windows network drives.
[23:38] <hutch6072> iam using 12.04
[23:38] <theforgewright> I would do that blind even if I could get through the initial install configuration screens XD
[23:38] <tomreyn> theforgewright: do you have an integrated grpahics chipset, too?
[23:38] <merval> hutch6072: give me a minute
[23:38] <hutch6072> and I hate to say it but the terminal is something that is still new to me.... iam use to dos but lets be honest... not that hard to use dos
[23:38] <Ologn> When resizing a terminal, a little widget or whatever would pop up and tell you what the new size is.  They did away with that, but I know there is a way to reenable it.  I forget how though.
[23:39] <theforgewright> No, this is a laptop. That is the integrated. Gaming motherboard.
[23:39] <Ologn> Does anyone know?  The little info popup that tells you the new window dimensions when you resize a terminal?  How to enable that?  I know it can be done.
[23:39] <hutch6072> is there some kind of an app thats well "idiot proof" that would work for this?
[23:40] <tomreyn> theforgewright: are you using the nouveau (open source) or (proprietary) nvidia drivers?
[23:40] <merval> hutch6072: I don't know that there is
[23:40] <ekaj> Does Natty not have 1920*1080 resolution?
[23:41] <tomreyn> theforgewright: and which "initial install configuration screen" are you referring to?
[23:41] <theforgewright> Whatever's on Ubuntu to start with. I'm on a fresh install, looking at a set of black screens.
[23:41] <theforgewright> Damned if I know. Screen's black.
[23:41] <hutch6072> so how in the world does one mount a network drive with ubuntu? linix and have thought of a easy solution for this problem
[23:41] <theforgewright> I assume setting username and the like. Might be a login screen.
[23:41] <merval> hutch6072: are you able to access the hard drive on your router through a web browser?
[23:41] <theforgewright> Could be a big clown dancing the macarena =P
[23:42] <hutch6072> yes jsut a simple ip web address
[23:42] <merval> hutch6072: give this a try. http://linhost.info/2012/05/mount-a-network-share-in-linux-ubuntu/
[23:42] <tomreyn> theforgewright: okay, sorry i didn't think much there ;-)
[23:42] <hutch6072> but the connection rate is epic in it slowness
[23:42] <tomreyn> theforgewright: how did you install in the first place then?
[23:42] <Ologn> Oh I think I figured it out
[23:42] <hutch6072> ill try that site, thank you for the help!
[23:42] <merval> You're welcome
[23:42] <theforgewright> The install worked fine, I assume it just sends the display to all the screens for that
[23:42] <theforgewright> Once installed? Nothing
[23:43] <theforgewright> It defaults to the laptop screen and I'm screwed
[23:44] <tomreyn> theforgewright: does it output to both screens during boot?
[23:44] <theforgewright> No
[23:44] <wolfe_> I need some help with bluetooth mouse. It was working, and after building some patched wifi drivers, the bluetooth mouse stopped working. Im not sure where to start looking.
[23:44] <theforgewright> I'm gonna fiddle with it real quick, might take a sec to respond
[23:45] <hutch6072> lol... I wish that there was a local class (workshop) I could goto in person for ubuntu...
[23:45] <tomreyn> theforgewright: i'd say reinstall using the alternative installer, and make sure you install an ssh server on it in the end, and test that you can connect to it fine.
[23:45] <merval> hutch6072: yeah. I hear ya. when I was starting with ubuntu I read forums until my eyes bled lol (not literally)
[23:45] <wolfe_> Is there a way to reset all/any bluetooth settings to original settings?
[23:46] <hutch6072> lol.... Merval: how long have you been at this game?
[23:46] <theforgewright> So configure it remotely?
[23:46] <merval> hutch6072: 2004~
[23:46] <wolfe_> Hutch6072, an awesome way to learn is watch plenty youtube videos.
[23:46] <hutch6072> wow
[23:46] <hutch6072> youtube is the best ;)
[23:47] <merval> hutch6072: only been using Ubuntu since 2005 though
[23:47] <tomreyn> theforgewright: tat'd be my suggestion. so you can change configuration back and forth easily and can always see what's going on.
[23:47] <hutch6072> Merval: did you use windows before linux?
[23:47] <Sassy_Mushroom> I am new to all of this. I just got my Raspberry Pi and was wondering if Thunderbird will work on it. Anyone know?
[23:47] <tomreyn> theforgewright: otherwise it'll just be annoying.
[23:47] <theforgewright> Sounds like a plan, I'll have to spend some time and learn what I'm doing there
[23:47] <merval> hutch6072: Yeah. about 9 years or so. I still use it at work though
[23:48] <gvo> Sassy_Mushroom: Thunderbird might be a bit large.
[23:48] <theforgewright> I'm gonna pound my head against it for a little more before I reinstall, maybe try xrandr blind again
[23:48] <Sassy_Mushroom> Is there a lighter email client that will work?
[23:48] <hutch6072> Merval: so for ease of use... (simple network media/ headless pc to do simple movie downloading and such) would u pref Ubuntu or Windows?
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> Sassy_Mushroom, what OS is it using?
[23:49] <merval> theforgewright: too bad you can't get SSH running on that thing and just do all your config remotely
[23:49] <Sassy_Mushroom> Raspbian.
[23:49] <tomreyn> theforgewright: so when the alternative installer is done and wants to reboot, cacel and get back to that main menu where all the installation steps are listed. on the very bottom you should see an option to run a shell.
[23:49] <merval> hutch6072: Ubuntu. I have one doing just that :-P
[23:49] <wolfe_> Is there an equivalent key shortcut to ALT+TAB to switch among open windows?
[23:49] <theforgewright> kk
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> Sassy_Mushroom, you might try ##linux this is ubuntu
[23:50] <hutch6072> Marval: so you have mapped a netword hardrive to you Ubuntu sysytem?
[23:50] <Vlan> does somebody know if it is possible to recovery the root password w/out grub?
[23:50] <Sassy_Mushroom> wilee-nilee, Okay.
[23:50] <Eitan> hey gents, having issues with a new virtual IP i set up from my host. ive done this before, but for some reason i cant get apache2 to recognize it. i added it to /etc/init.d/interfaces and added all the right info and restarted the interfaces
[23:50] <merval> hutch6072: yeah. a couple of times but never through a router
[23:50] <tomreyn> theforgewright: i think it also provides instrcutions on how to access the location where it has installed ubuntu to. you will probably have to chroot to that and install the openssh package there manually
[23:50] <Chamunks> is there some way i can temporarily set my right click to toggle instead of click in ubuntu?
[23:50] <tomreyn> theforgewright: openssh-server, that is.
[23:50] <Eitan> and its in ifconfig. but i cant get the site to load with that IP... having issues troubleshooting it
[23:50] <merval> usually It's a windows machine or a server using Samba or NFS
[23:50] <hutch6072> Marval: through what than?
[23:50] <theforgewright> Right, okay.
[23:51] <gvo> vlan you can boot a live disk, mount the drive and use chroot, maybe
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> Sassy_Mushroom, it is debian based they might help as well #debian
[23:51] <merval> hutch6072: usually It's a windows machine or a server using Samba or NFS
[23:51] <wolfe_> is there a way to uninstall bluetooth and reinstall it on ubuntu 12.04??
[23:52] <theforgewright> Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
[23:52] <pointexta> ...looking for experienced exaile&exfalso users...
[23:52] <hutch6072> Merval: Do you use usenet by chance? I DL allot of movies/music
[23:53] <Degorth> hello
[23:53] <Vlan> gvo: yes, i have a recovery disk, could you please link me a tutorial to do this?
[23:53] <gvo> vlan however by default ubuntu doesnt have a root password.
[23:53] <merval> hutch6072: I don't
[23:53] <HaltingState> Dr_willis, I did unity --reset and the problem is back
[23:53] <Vlan> gvo: i setted up a server, told it not to prompt me for pwd, and then after 4 months i forgot it!
[23:53] <HaltingState> it occurs in Sublime Text and Blender and deminizes windows when you switch tabs without application
[23:53] <Degorth> how do I close Ubuntu's X Server to install Nvidia drivers?
[23:54] <HaltingState> i disabled it in ccsm but then it causes other more horrible issues
[23:54] <hutch6072> Merval: I hate it and iam sad to say.... but it just seems like so much that I do reqs. me to use windows.... I want to leave windows but iam used to what it is that I do...
[23:55] <merval> hutch6072: I had that same trouble with migrating from windows
[23:55] <gvo> vlan I don't know of one.  boot the live disk,  sudo -s , mount the disk on /mnt  chroot /mnt passwd root
[23:56] <merval> hutch6072: if you use a lot of windows software Wine would be a good thing to have on hand
[23:56] <Vlan> gvo: k tnx, i'll try that
[23:56] <hutch6072> Merval: Just seems odd that something that is so easy to do in Windows and is some commen is such a pain in the ass in Ubuntu
[23:57] <gvo> vlan hope that makes sense
[23:57] <hutch6072> Merval: I hear of this prog allot as of late
[23:57] <Degorth> how do you close ubuntu's X Server
[23:57] <merval> mounting network drives in and of itself is pretty easy
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> dualboot, it is okay to have windows on your computer. :)
[23:58] <Vlan> gvo: hope that'll teach me to use a password that i will actually remember
[23:58] <pointexta> newbe needs help with exaile & exfalso plugin
[23:58] <gvo> Degorth: Ubuntu?
[23:58] <pointexta> !!
[23:58] <hutch6072> Merval: but my issue still lays in connecting my Ubuntu laptop with my network HD
[23:58] <Degorth> gvo: yes, I've tried to do it but I get a blank screen
[23:59] <gvo> Degorth: Recommend you go to System/Administration/Hardware drivers instead.
[23:59] <merval> hutch6072: I hear ya. I'm at work give me a moment I've got a call