[00:25] <earthling_> How do I know if Firefox Add-ons are safe to install?
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> earthling_, here is a question page from mozilla. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/faq
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> that question is addressed
[00:28] <earthling_> ty
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[00:36] <earthling_> do you know where add-ons are installed?
[00:36] <holstein> you mean physically? i would look in the ~/.mozzilla or whtever FF stores things
[00:38] <Unit193> .mozilla/firefox/%profile%/extensions/
[00:44] <earthling_> I don't see any profile folder
[00:45] <holstein> earthling_: i would just poke around in what you do see
[00:46] <earthling_> I see extensions folder with .api files
[00:46] <earthling_> xpi I mean
[00:46] <holstein> earthling_: i would expect to find things relating to FF in that directory
[00:48] <earthling_> that must be them
[00:48] <earthling_> interesting they say chrome
[00:49] <earthling_> do you use add-ons?
[00:49] <holstein> i dont use firefox
[00:49] <holstein> though, it is pretty nice again
[00:49] <earthling_> chromium?
[00:50] <holstein> i use chrome
[00:50] <earthling_> on ubuntu?
[00:50] <holstein> on most everything
[00:50] <earthling_> I thought chromium was the linux version of chrome
[00:51] <earthling_> or open source at least
[00:51] <holstein> its fast.. the sync works well, and chrome has its own flash version, which is the last place flash will be supported on linux
[00:51] <holstein> earthling_: chrome is not open source, it just works well for me
[00:52] <holstein> chromium is nice, but there were a few glithces and with the flash issue, i decided to use chrome
[00:52] <holstein> nothing wrong with firefox
[00:52] <earthling_> I like chromium, never tried chrome
[00:52] <earthling_> it feels faster than firefox for me
[00:53] <earthling_> do you use extensions for chrome?
[00:53] <holstein> i wish i didnt need flash at all... id just get with chromium
[00:53] <holstein> earthling_: i use a few
[00:53] <earthling_> how do you know if they are safe?
[00:53] <holstein> i trust the creators
[00:54] <holstein> plus, you have to define "safe"
[00:54] <earthling_> that they aren't malware,adware,spyware,etc...
[00:55] <earthling_> I assume ubuntu is more secure than windows
[00:56] <holstein> yeah?... assume nothing
[00:56] <earthling_> I just wonder how bad an extension/add-on could be
[00:56] <holstein> check for your self, and turst who you trust
[00:56] <earthling_> hehe prepare for the worst, expect the best
[00:56] <holstein> we (ubuntu, cannonical, you, me) dont make firefox or any add-ons
[00:57] <holstein> there is a signing method to packages in the repos for ubuntu that make then "trustworthy"
[00:57] <holstein> as much as you trust the repos... can a "bad" package get in? i suppose
[00:57] <holstein> am i worried about it? no
[00:57] <earthling_> yeah, not extensions and add-ons though I think , although Firefox has an approval process
[00:58] <earthling_> and perhaps Chrome has one too
[00:58] <holstein> earthling_: just clear up that "perhaps" and you are good to go
[00:58] <earthling_> ok :)
[00:58] <holstein> this is almost all open, and free, meaning *anyone* can look and check and see, and ask
[00:59] <earthling_> add-ons and extensions are not open source I think, except perhaps to the approval people
[01:00] <bud1> First time on chat, and I don't see instructs. on how it works. So how do I get to post/chat?
[01:03] <holstein> bud1: you type, and hit enter... you are doing well so far
[01:04] <holstein> bud1: chec the topic of the channels you join
[01:04] <holstein> bud1: welcome!
[01:04] <holstein> earthling_: AFAIK, you can have open ones if you want to write an open one
[01:04] <bud1> Thanks. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 with kde desktop. where can I find these two programs that will Ubuntu and kde? I cannot find them in the Ubuntu backports: notecase and treesheets are the two programs.
[01:05] <holstein> bud1: what are you looking for?
[01:06] <bud1> these to programs: notecase and treesheets
[01:07] <earthling_> holstein, probably true
[01:07] <holstein> bud1: i would open up the package manager of your choice and search for them
[01:08] <bud1> that was the first thing I did along with searching backports for kubuntu and the web.
[01:10] <holstein> bud1: they might not be in the repos... i'll look...
[01:13] <holstein> notecase is not there
[01:13] <bud1> Tell me how to get to the ubuntu repos?
[01:14] <holstein> ?.. you open a package manager and search it
[01:14] <holstein> you are using it now
[01:14] <earthling_> have a good night fellas, keep up the good work!
[01:16] <bud1> ?.. you open a package manager and search it, I can find the repos in package manager?
[01:16] <holstein> bud1: the package manager searches the online repos
[01:16] <holstein> bud1: when you open a package manager and search, you are accessing the repos
[01:18] <bud1> I knew that when using ubuntu 10  but I'm using 1204 and I can't see it in the resipotories
[01:18] <holstein> bud1: right, its been removed
[01:19] <holstein> http://www.notecasepro.com/download.php is where my search leads
[01:19] <bud1> Before using 10 I could go to the repos website and download. Will that work for 1204?
[01:19] <holstein> http://treesheets.com/ has ubuntu packages
[01:20] <holstein> bud1: it the developers support 12.04 it will.. i would just try it
[01:20] <bud1> I'm not following you, try what?
[01:23] <SeaDaddy46> Bud1: this is my first time on the channel as well. As far as I know, one of the main places I find progs that aren't in the distros. is http://sourceforge.net.
[01:25] <bud1> I tried here to. Hey thanks a bunch, lots  luck to u!
[01:25] <holstein> bud1: try installing the packages
[01:25] <bud1> What packages?
[01:26] <holstein> bud1: the 2 you are asking about... treesheets and notecasepro, which is what is suggested now instead of notecase
[01:26] <SeaDaddy46> Bud1, have you tried the Aptitude Package Manager it 12.04 LTS?
[01:27] <bud1> holstein, thanks but like I said that was the first thing I tried. Thanks again.
[01:28] <holstein> bud1: what were the errors?
[01:28] <holstein> bud1: you tried downloading from the pages i linked and installing?
[01:28] <holstein> they wont be in the repos, you'll need to download and install.. you can report errors as needed
[01:29] <bud1> holstein,  notecase is nolonger on the forge and I can't find a treesheet package for Ub.1204.
[01:31] <bud1> SeaDaddy46, " have you tried the Aptitude Package Manager it 12.04 LTS?" Thanks SeaDaddy46 I will give that a try!
[01:31] <holstein> bud1: notecase is notecasepro now..
[01:31] <holstein> bud1: those packages are not in the repos
[01:32] <bud1> Thanks, but it is so slow I removed it.
[01:33] <holstein> http://www.notecasepro.com/get.php?ub12.04/notecase-pro_3.6.8_i386.deb is for 32bit ubuntu 12.04
[01:33] <SeaDaddy46> bud1: have you tried this link? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/treesheets/
[01:33] <holstein> bud1: if you have the old .deb you can try it, but i would expect the new version to be just that, the new version
[01:34] <bud1> holstein, I tried the old ver. no good, it wont even try to install it.
[01:35] <holstein> bud1: then, i would ask the maintainers what to do with the newer version if it has bugs
[01:36] <bud1> eaDaddy46, yes I went there and tried to get my software installer to install treesheets and it refused.
[01:36] <holstein> bud1: what errors?
[01:36] <holstein> enjoy! gtg...
[01:37] <bud1> the error was "reinstall", thats what I got evertime I tried.
[01:38] <bud1> Thanks for all the help!
[01:59] <SeaDaddy46> bud1: I just used Ubuntu Software Center, and it worked just fine. I did have to create a Ubuntu Single Sign-on acct.
[02:01] <SeaDaddy46> Ubuntu Software Center said I had to buy the software, but the price was $0.00. As soon as I clicked on the Buy (instead of Install) button, I had to sign into Ubuntu Single Sign-on, then everything work like normal.
[02:05] <SeaDaddy46> After playing around with treesheets to be sure it actually did install correctly, and worked, (everything worked fine!) I think I want to leave it installed, and use it for some of my storyline editing. Thanks for asking about Treesheets.
[02:15] <HiddenSanity> So...
[02:15] <HiddenSanity> I am trying to get gametable working... it seems not to, although it should just be a java program...
[02:20] <HiddenSanity> http://gametableproj.sourceforge.net/ is the java program in question.  I'm trying to run it with OpenJDK Java 7 runtime and tried 6 too....
[03:05] <HiddenSanity> So... anyone know how I can get gametable up and running?  Would it be a problem with Java? Or am I just missing something obvious?
[03:10] <stlsaint> sorry i dont know what gametable is
[03:13] <HiddenSanity> http://gametableproj.sourceforge.net/http://gametableproj.sourceforge.net/
[03:13] <HiddenSanity> It's a virtual gametable or whiteboard.. java based
[03:14] <HiddenSanity> It runs fine on my windows machine at home, but my laptop doesn't seem to like it.
[03:53] <earthling_> I want to list all files that were modified today. Will this work:  ls -lR /  | grep '2012-08-04'
[03:53] <earthling_> don't want to list all files again, takes awhile
[04:28] <stlsaint> hrm, strange command
[04:28] <stlsaint> earthling_: have you tried that?
[04:29] <earthling_> it seems to work
[04:29] <stlsaint> earthling_: gerat
[04:30] <stlsaint> HiddenSanity: could it run under wine?
[04:30] <earthling_> indeed, now I'm trying to pause it
[04:30] <HiddenSanity> It's Java... haven't tried WINE for that.
[04:33] <stlsaint> earthling_: pause with ctrl+z
[04:35] <stlsaint> HiddenSanity: jar file?
[04:35] <earthling_> I set that for a keyboard shortcut with gnome
[04:36] <stlsaint> earthling_: oh, well that is key to pause a runnign process. to kill it first find it with ps aux | grep ls
[04:37] <stlsaint> then sudo kill -9 pid
[04:37] <earthling_> oh
[04:37] <HiddenSanity> yes
[04:37] <stlsaint> pid being the process id listed from the ps command
[04:37] <stlsaint> HiddenSanity: what is name of jar file?
[04:37] <HiddenSanity> gametable.jar
[04:40] <stlsaint> HiddenSanity: have you tried command: java -jar gametable.jar?
[04:41] <HiddenSanity> Not yet... I wasn't aware that was a thing.
[04:41] <HiddenSanity> In terminal, I assume?
[04:42] <stlsaint> HiddenSanity: yes
[04:42] <stlsaint> HiddenSanity: if you get an error that is long paste it into paste.ubuntu.com and paste url here
[04:42] <stlsaint> hrm wonder if there is a facto for that
[04:42] <stlsaint> !paste
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[04:43] <stlsaint> sweet
[04:43] <HiddenSanity> hey, it works, thank you.
[04:43] <HiddenSanity> That how I always need to run it?
[04:43] <stlsaint> aye
[04:44] <stlsaint> well i dont know what this game/tool is so i cant say for sure but for now it works, seems there is a forum at that link you posted. try there http://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/gametableproj/
[04:55] <earthling_> stlsaint, can I show only executable files?
[04:55] <stlsaint> earthling_: ?
[04:55] <stlsaint> oh
[04:55] <earthling_> a command for LS
[04:55] <stlsaint> earthling_: something like
[04:55] <earthling_> don't see any in man page
[04:55] <stlsaint> earthling_: ls -la *.exe
[04:55] <earthling_> don't think that works
[04:55] <stlsaint> earthling_: that will list all .exe in current dir
[04:56] <stlsaint> again...in current dir
[04:56] <earthling_> ls: cannot access *.exe: No such file or directory
[04:56] <earthling_> I'm trying to find out if a firefox add-on install programs on my computer other than the firefox directory
[04:56] <stlsaint> i doubt it
[04:56] <stlsaint> in any case you need the find command
[04:56] <earthling_> so many executable files are created in a day, I guess normal activity
[04:57] <stlsaint> not on linux
[04:57] <stlsaint> no .exe are create within any *nix machine without being manually created
[04:57] <earthling_> try this     ls -lR /  | grep '2012-08-04'
[04:57] <stlsaint> o_O
[04:57] <earthling_> seems to show alot of executables
[04:58] <stlsaint> what do you mean by executables
[04:58] <earthling_> srwxr-xr-x
[04:58] <earthling_> is that executable file permissions?
[05:00] <earthling_> alot of directories are created
[05:00] <earthling_> I guess they're considered executable
[05:00] <stlsaint> so you mean files are executables, not the .exe extension as in widnows?
[05:00] <stlsaint> well in that case have fun lol
[05:01] <stlsaint> too many -x files to sort through with that...i dont think thats a very effective way to find what you are looking for
[05:01] <earthling_> as I understand it, files are executable if they have certain permissions
[05:01] <earthling_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_permissions
[05:01] <shahan> I have installed Gnome-Shell . How can I remove it from the Recovery Mode.
[05:02] <shahan> I am usually use LXDE due to my slow configured computer.
[05:02] <stlsaint> shahan: no need to be in recovery mode
[05:02] <shahan> its 12.04
[05:02] <stlsaint> if you have another DE installed than use that DE and remove gnome-shell
[05:02] <shahan> stlsaint: I have no option. Because the
[05:03] <shahan> stlsaint: Gnome shell not loading. And it has become the default
[05:03] <stlsaint> shahan: so change it
[05:03] <shahan> now I have only option is the recovery mode.
[05:03] <stlsaint> at the login menu you have the option to change
[05:03] <shahan> the login option doesnt shows because I dont use any password to login
[05:04] <shahan> stlsaint: I think the only option now is the Recovery Mode
[05:04] <stlsaint> *facepalm*
[05:07] <shahan> is there any solution from Rocovery Mode?
[05:08] <stlsaint> should be able to just purge shell, except i would not recommend that until you install something that you knwo works
[05:08] <stlsaint> first remove the autologin option
[05:09] <stlsaint> that is what you want to do
[05:09] <stlsaint> remove option to autologin
[05:09] <shahan> stlsaint: I already have the installed LXDE
[05:09] <shahan> yes... not to remove the autologin option?
[05:09] <shahan> sorry!!!
[05:10] <shahan> stlsaint: how to remove the auto login option?
[05:10] <shahan> from Recovery Mode?
[05:10] <stlsaint> one sec
[05:11] <shahan> stlsaint: okey
[05:11] <stlsaint> shahan: are you at recovery mode now on the system?
[05:12] <shahan> stlsaint: ya... in my another room :)
[05:13] <stlsaint> kk, need to test command first before giving to ya, one sec
[05:14] <shahan> ok
[05:14] <stlsaint> shahan: are you running ubuntu 12.04?
[05:15] <shahan> lubuntu 12.04
[05:15] <shahan> I think the backend are almost same
[05:16] <stlsaint> ok
[05:16] <stlsaint> enter command:
[05:16] <stlsaint> cd /etc/lightdm
[05:16] <stlsaint> there you sould see some conf files
[05:16] <stlsaint> lightdm.conf is what you want to edit
[05:16] <stlsaint> change autologin user to false or whatever the option is
[05:18] <shahan> let me do ....
[05:25] <shahan> stlsaint: how to open the lightdm.conf file in recovery mode?
[05:25] <stlsaint> shahan: nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[05:32] <stlsaint> shahan: ?
[05:32] <stlsaint> did it work?
[05:33] <shahan> hmm
[05:33] <shahan> let me do more
[05:33] <stlsaint> shahan: what do you mean more?
[05:33] <stlsaint> did editign the file stop the autologin?
[05:37] <shahan> stlsaint: the file has opened
[05:37] <shahan> which line to change? do I need to save? how to save
[05:37] <shahan> ?
[05:39] <stlsaint> the line that says autologin-user=shahan (or whatever name) change shahan to false
[05:39] <stlsaint> hit ctrl+o then the enter key to save
[05:40] <stlsaint> hit ctrl+x to close after saving
[05:41] <shahan> ctrl+o will it save? or ctrl+s?
[05:42] <stlsaint> ctrl+o if you are in nano as i said earlier
[05:46] <shahan> stlsaint: it doesn't save
[05:46] <shahan> stlsaint: it says that its a read only file
[05:48] <shahan> stlsaint: wow... I have solved the issue in another way... tnx
[05:48] <shahan> stlsaint: I have sudo mount -n -o remount /
[05:49] <shahan> then sudo apt-get remove gnome shell
[05:49] <shahan> its solved the issue
[05:49] <shahan> now the gnome classic is loading
[05:49] <shahan> now I can do graphically
[05:49] <stlsaint> cool
[05:49] <shahan> I am going to login into the #ubuntu with that PC now
[05:49] <shahan> bye for now :)
[05:49] <stlsaint> glad to have ti worked out
[06:02] <gr1d> Can anyone help me with an internal-mic issue?
[06:02] <stlsaint> gr1d: i am just about to head out but have you checked otu the sound troubleshooting wiki?
[06:02] <stlsaint> gr1d: sound issues usually mean drivers must be modprobed and what not
[06:03] <gr1d> I will give it a look.
[06:03] <gr1d> Thank you.
[09:08] <shahan> nothing shows :(
[09:59] <smartboyhw> Anyone here?
[10:01] <JoseeAntonioR> smartboyhw: how may we help you?
[10:33] <josh13> Hi everyone
[11:01] <josh13> Does anyone have a guide to installing the latest NVIDIA drivers? I cant seem to get video / audio HDMI output working
[12:48] <smartboyhw> josh13, go to #ubuntu
[12:49] <josh13> will do smartboyhw