=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [00:10] hamitron: according to Azelphur they are heading the same way as cpu's. eg useless. [00:14] they are [00:14] but I want one anyways [00:14] haha [00:14] lol [00:14] obviously making too much money mining :P [00:14] ;/ [00:14] I bought the 6770 instead of fpga [00:15] because I wanted better gpu in a couple of my machines at the time [00:15] it is the ASIC that are only useful for bitcoin mining, I struggle to convince myself to buy [00:16] ASIC doesn't obsolete GPU in the same way as GPU did to CPU... the jump is not so big [00:16] * penguin42 wonders how much of an ASIC it is - there are companies that have a FPGA-XASIC system that's not very optimal but will give an improvement [00:17] a lot cheaper than the few $1M or more for a full ASIC build on a modern process [00:17] ali1234: 450MH to 40,000MH is not a jump? [00:18] not when you consider power usage [00:18] after factoring the probability that the thing uses 2x more power than they claim, and gets only 0.5x the hash that they claim [00:19] hehe, yeh [00:19] I've decided I'm not buying any ASIC, until I see it [00:20] I may lose out on the initial high profit [00:20] but better than risking a load of cash imo [00:20] buy a used fpga cheap [00:20] butterfly labs are offering a trade in for their fpga units [00:21] I'm wondering if they may offer reconditioned units cheap later [00:21] which would be kind of cool, because you can re-program them to calculate other things [00:21] * penguin42 wonders why they sell their own FPGA cards as opposed to just selling an image for someone elses [00:22] someone elses? [00:23] FPGA dev cards are pretty common [00:24] yeh, but they tend to be more expensive from what I've seen [00:24] but more flexible ofc [00:24] there are some cheap ones [00:24] probably because they don't want some toe-rag to steal their firmware and rip them off [00:24] that too [00:25] and also because they have a chip fab plant [00:25] penguin42: where? :/ [00:25] hamitron: http://www.xess.com/prods/prod055.php are kind of low end ones [00:25] i suspect their original fpga design has some accelerated sha asic blocks too [00:25] they use the Xilinx Spartan series [00:25] but maybe it's just a generic fpga design with the serial numbers filed off [00:26] ali1234: It's probably a one-time-programmable FPGA [00:26] they're cheaper than the programmable ones - but you have to make sure you get it right :-) [00:26] maybe [00:26] it can't be, you can upload new "functions" [00:27] the larger/more complex FPGAs cost more of course [00:27] but there again, if as you're saying the data rate is very low - then why make it a PCI board [00:28] it isn't [00:28] it's a box that you plug in on usb [00:29] even appears as a serial port [00:29] :) [00:29] "Ok, so now we are in the desert, and you find a genie, and you ask the genie to make the carrot fresh again, and then wish a starving billionaire would appear in front of you" [00:29] oh right then, probably pretty easy to build yourself that type of thing in a few days using the free FPGA tools [00:30] lolarguments [00:30] then it's just proportional to how much you'll pay for the FPGA [00:31] the results on the fpga dev boards I've seen, don't seem that cost effective [00:31] :/ [00:31] otherwise I'd have grabbed one [00:31] as things stand, I'd get a de0-nano just for playing with, then another for btc mining [00:31] they don't clock particularly fast [00:32] altera better supported on linux [00:32] or so i'm told [00:33] I've done Xilinx on Linux (on Ubuntu) [00:33] I used altera at uni on linux [00:33] (a few years ago - haven't done much with my board for a while) [00:33] seemed ok [00:35] hamitron: Well then, go build yourself a SHA256 FPGA [00:36] heh [00:36] always seem to be busy these days [00:36] yeh [00:37] doing 4x15 hour days each week atm [00:37] so whilst I do have days off, I like to recover [00:37] ;) [00:38] why does nobody want to recommend some nice small laptops :( [00:38] I saw a nice lenovo in staples [00:38] hamitron: link? [00:38] bah [00:38] * hamitron goes look [00:40] http://www.staples.co.uk/technology/computing/computing/ideapad-s205-4gb-11-6-black?r=bf [00:41] that's pretty good actually, nice price too [00:41] you'd ahve to do price checks [00:41] I not looked around [00:41] 5 hours battery life is a bit meh, but I do have the extra universal battery [00:41] or looked at specs closely [00:41] but it looked good [00:41] ;) [00:41] oh hey it has a radeon, that's nice too [00:42] and felt good [00:42] could probably do a little bit of gaming on that [00:43] http://shop.lenovo.com/us/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x220 [00:44] ali1234: that's nice, bit too big though, ideally looking <=11" [00:45] 11" fits in my coat pocket :D [00:45] chromebook? [00:45] oh god, google taking over my everything [00:45] well obviously you wipe it and put ubuntu [00:45] nah, would prefer a standard computer, I already have a Galaxy S3 and probably getting a nexus 7 [00:45] chromeOS sucks [00:45] oh, they can take Ubuntu? [00:45] yeah [00:45] don't they have an ARM chip which has limited compatibility? [00:45] no [00:46] i5 dual core [00:46] do they have any local storage? [00:46] 16GB ssd [00:46] probably would want to swap that SSD out, a bit too small [00:46] so no then :-) [00:46] (I have a 40GB SSD on the table that would do fine) [00:46] you want the moon on a stick [00:46] ali1234: you've worked it out [00:46] :) [00:46] i dont knw if you can swap the hd on chromebook [00:46] ali1234: Problem is chromebooks just seem to be more expensive than stuff with windows on which seems sad [00:47] * hamitron just uses windows [00:47] not really, cheap windows laptop/netbooks are pretty bad [00:47] chromebook is actually nice hardware apparently [00:48] I like the idea of the decent bios that the chromebook has [00:48] I bet it'd boot fast [00:48] 8 seconds [00:48] 8 seconds with Ubuntu? [00:48] probaly not [00:48] lol was gonna say [00:48] would be cool to dual boot it [00:50] bit pricey for my requirements though [00:51] moon on a stick [00:51] I still think you are missing out, not having a windows phone [00:51] ;) [00:51] ali1234: not really, I want a laptop for web browsing / im and decent battery life. An atom would be fine [00:51] get a second hand netbook from ebay [00:52] hehe [00:52] them acer ones are cheap [00:52] maybe for a reason [00:52] * hamitron shrugs [00:52] I've had bad experience with acer, they seem to make terrible touchpads [00:53] moon... stick... [00:53] the acer ones are cheap because they sold millions of them [00:53] ali1234: I'd like it to turn on [00:53] * Azelphur waits for moon, stick [00:54] http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acer-Aspire-One-ZG5-Netbook-Windows-7-Ultimate-/140812406269?pt=UK_Computing_Laptops_EH&hash=item20c912cdfd [00:54] yea, that's actually the exact netbook I was referring to when I said bad touchpad [00:54] I had the privilege of working with one of those for a while, I ended up vncing it because it was just totally unusable. [00:55] ali1234: as a sidenote I'd like 1080p video playback too [00:55] it has a great touchpad [00:55] is today opposite day [00:56] also from what I hear anything less than N4xx atoms chug battery, which is also not great :) [00:57] I wish I could get my hands on that Eee PC that had the AMD Geode cpu in it [00:58] unfortunately, it appeared to be targeted for poor countries like Italy and Poland [00:58] yea, I had an eee before it was really nice, sold it to jacobw [00:58] * Azelphur is filled with regret [00:58] they are nice [00:58] but also this Geode version used a weird SiS chipset [00:59] and there were still windows 98 drivers for it [00:59] :D [00:59] lol [00:59] battery life was really bad though [00:59] and the cpu was only an i586 [00:59] so 10.04 only, or debian [00:59] ;) [01:00] hehe [01:00] http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASUS-Eee-PC-1225B-SIV064M-Netbook-/330767469369?pt=UK_Computing_Laptops_EH&hash=item4d03470b39#ht_570wt_907 this looks quite nice, maybe this o.O [01:06] ali1234: hmm, I'm actually having trouble finding the i5 chromebooks, you got a link? [01:06] on the chromebook website they are all atoms or "intel core" processors [01:07] it's because the chromebox is i5 [01:07] the chromebook is atom [01:07] oh [01:07] or maybe not [01:07] i dunno [01:18] Is it possible to have the same wallet files shared to different pc's [01:25] dogmatic69: you need a determinalistic wallet for that, use electrum [01:25] ah [06:41] cool [06:41] since today's upgrades, banshee crashes every time it switches to a new song after playing one [07:14] morning [07:20] \o [07:26] GB @ #3 :) [07:33] yeow [07:38] meow [08:57] good morning everyone. [09:01] morning [09:01] morning jacobw === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [09:16] heh [09:16] http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/reading/articles/2012/08/05/61606-mums-anger-at-free-bus-pass-refusal/ [09:16] i don't understand the schooling system here [09:17] uphill both ways! [09:18] lol [09:38] LUXURY! [09:41] on the other hand, I cycle downhill to work - I wouldn't want it to be uphill on the way in [09:57] Hello peeps :) [09:57] hello bigcalm :) [10:10] If I greet peeps in here, it would be less rude if I were to not then leave the room for ages [10:10] Hi brobostigon, having a good day? [10:11] bigcalm: not bad upto now, still half asleep, and you? [10:12] Looking forward to the thunderstorms that are forecast for later today :D [10:12] Humm, well they were forecast on my phone [10:12] BBC weather doesn't think we'll be getting any [10:12] Ho-hum [10:13] Lots of rain though, maybe I should mow the lawns while it's still dry :S [10:16] same here yes, loads of rain. and maybe thinder etc. [10:17] thunder* [11:15] Hi all, lauchpad is asking for my ssh key, how do i extract said key from my laptop? [11:15] wayne__: it's in ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub [11:15] or possibly not rsa but something else [11:15] but you need the .pub file not the other one [11:16] gotcha thanks [11:27] wayne__: use ssh-keygen to generate the keys if they don't exist [11:38] jacobw: thanks but im sorted now [11:50] whats the command to change irc chat name? [11:51] /nick newnick [11:51] cheers [11:51] :) [11:51] dosnt work [11:52] no spaces at the front, [11:52] nope none [11:52] you client doesnt support that then. [11:53] what client do you recommend for unbuntu 12.04? [11:53] i use irssi, and have for years, it a terminal client, i do not recommend it, but i dont know any others to be honest. [11:53] fair enough [11:54] thanks for your honesty [11:54] :) [11:58] thunder? you send me thunder?! Oi! you upstairs! this is *not* suitable weather for my day off - #sortit ! [11:58] but thunder is cool [11:59] [only if you get inside b4 wet stuff falls from the sky [12:00] !xchat [12:00] A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines [12:10] is it possible to launch ncurses (debian style) installer from live ubuntu cd? [12:21] ...having read around, it would appear I've to install using the alternative iso, create the raid there, and I can then install mythbuntu-desktop. Far too long winded, is it not possible to include raid and lvm in the gui installer? [12:40] n1md4: I don't think so but it's a while since I tried [12:42] n1md4: but I wouldn't worry about using the alternative iso - it's easy enough, just not pretty [13:44] n1md4: I can find a note that there were plans to support software raid in the standard install bu tit looks like it never happened: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-lucid-software-raid-in-ubiquity-for-desktop-install [15:04] Today's lesson #1 - when running a bath... don't forget you're running a bath! [15:05] Today's lesson #2 - when using just the hot tap... don't stick your arm in to pull pull plug! [15:05] * pull the... [15:06] ouch [15:07] Today's lesson #3 - there isn't an app in the s/w centre to politely translate subsequent swearing! [15:07] ;) [15:07] oh that could be an interesting challenge [15:07] the bug entries for it would be fun; 'Does not provide suitable translation for _____' [15:07] ... me likey [15:11] ['spose it could be quite easy - all nasties translated to a polite "oh darn", or "oh drat"!] [15:11] nah!!! [15:13] SuperEngineer: Oh it would have to find the appropriate time to use such phrases as sugar, drat, turlingdrome, swut and joojooflop; or maybe even Belgium [15:14] perhaps app should translate all phrases to "shout that louder - you'll feel better"! [15:15] ...followed by - "next time, don't be so stupid!" [15:15] I'm sort of jealous of anyone who can fill the bath with hot water in one shot [15:16] shauno: que? [15:17] i really need to figure out how to turn the gas on in this flat [15:17] btw - Andy Murray just won [15:17] shauno - don't! [15:18] * penguin42 wonders where that lightening/thunder suddenly came from [15:18] if you can't work out how to turn it on - using it will be dangerous [15:18] irritatingly, my flat has 4 boilers, the kitchen and bathroom sinks each have an electric boiler, while the bath and radiator each have a gas boiler [15:18] penguin42: I sent it away from here - it was getting me down ;0 [15:19] jacobw: hmmm... pay the bill? [15:20] i have to work out how to pay the bill, i live in germany and i don't speak german [15:21] btw - we've got silver & bronze in the "jump the dead horse" event [15:21] * jacobw resolves to learn more german [15:21] ...apparently - a.k.a. pommel horse [15:28] jacobw: how long are you there for? [15:29] i don't know yet [15:29] really heavy rain after that thunder; I bet some places will have flood problems [15:29] it's just finised raining here [15:31] jacobw: Ich möchte meine gasrechnung bitte. Ich fühle mich dumm Bohrungen durch mein Nachbar's wall. [15:32] ja, und wie kann ich antworted verstehen? :) [15:33] s/antworted/antworten [15:34] ;) [15:34] jacobw: you could use e-mail to contact them, in theory [15:34] i'll sort it out before winter [15:34] A lot of Germans tend to speak pretty good English in my experience, but that's mainly from talking to people in the IT industry, where it's probably more likely. [15:34] ah, rural area ;) [15:35] it's like finding french speakers in hull [15:35] You could always call them up and ask politely "Es tut mir leid, ich bin Englander, sprechen Sie Englisch?" [15:35] (yes, apologise for being english, go on...) [15:35] playing on stereotypes often helps [15:35] i haven't tried hard enough yet, it's on my to do list :) [15:36] that is true, sometimes it's easier to pretend that i don't speak any german to avoid starting anything in german [15:36] it's easy for conversations to escalate from simple to complex language [15:37] ooh that one was directly over head [15:51] Getting confused. One of the clouds over here keeps getting brighter... seems to be a wierd yellow circle in it. [15:52] sounds unlikely === shane is now known as Guest34609 === zz_diddledan is now known as diddledan === Guest34609 is now known as Shane_ === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [16:52] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L75ESD9PBOw inspired use of an exercise ball [17:24] penguin42: yeah, I'm surprised it didn't pop [17:33] oh those things take quite a bit of abuse; I only know of one case of one popping in our office - under our lightest employee === brobosti1on is now known as brobostigon [19:06] . [19:10] : [19:10] # === diplo_ is now known as diplo [19:11] oh curious; synergy has started working - it only does that very very rarely [19:11] :) [20:02] Any londoners about ? [20:02] diplo, Im not a Londoner but I live in London [20:03] That's enough, decided to take my kids to national history museum about an hour ago and working out my way down [20:03] Nr Bath [20:03] Was going to Hounslow Central and tube/train to there [20:03] Piccadily line from what i can work out [20:04] Just wondering on tickets etc, I've heard Oyster cards mentioned on here.. go that route or just buy tickets when i get there ? [20:04] me and a 4&5 year old [20:04] Oyster is cheaper and the deposit on the card itself is 100% refundable [20:05] however if you're not planning on coming back any time soon I wouldn't bother [20:05] Nah, well not for a month or 3 anyway [20:05] with your kids... I dont know if they get on the tube for free or if they need their own cards to [20:05] only 24.... kids are a long way off hopefully [20:05] under 5 did for defo, havn't checked to see if 5 year olds are free as well [20:05] diplo: Might be worth looking at rail passes as well (As you can get them with the tube on the card) [20:06] I was trying for my first then alanmac :) [20:06] This is for the morning though, how easy is it to get these cards etc ? [20:06] rush hour is likely to be hell [20:06] diplo: When I go to London I get them from the machine on the platform [20:07] I would aim for 10:00/10:30 + [20:07] Yeah, you'll get off peak cards then too (much much cheaper) [20:07] yeah, leaving here 9am ish, aim to be in hounslow for 10-10:30 [20:08] diplo: They're travelcards [20:08] http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/ticket_types/travelcards_oyster.html [20:09] ta reading now [20:09] just booking us into dino area as well [20:09] When I used to go off peak fro reading -> paddington one of those with tube was ¬£25-30 [20:10] My ex wife would be going looney now if i said right were going to london tomorrow without organising anything a few weeks in advance [20:10] :D [20:10] Looks like about £8 when i checked earlier from hounslow [20:11] diplo: The travelcards cover your train journey to London as well (if you're taking the train to London) [20:12] yeah, so basically driving to Hounslow Central ( mates advised me to go there ) park there with the car for the day [20:12] And train/tube it direct from there [20:12] Ah, in that case you don't want a travel card :) [20:14] 30 min tripi [20:15] no mention of prices on tfl site [20:15] ah blimey hard work to plan this [20:15] :D [20:16] http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/user/XSLT_TRIP_REQUEST2?language=en&sessionID=TLJJP15P1_4257200302&requestID=1&tripSelector1=1&itdLPxx_view=detail&tripSelection=on&command=nop&calculateDistance=1 [20:16] Does this mean im going through Zones 4-1 ? [20:19] Short about the 100m final on BBC1 "Alan Bell - Official Starter" [20:19] * DJones realises why AlanBell hasn't been on IRC much in the last few days, BBC have just interviewed him as the offical starter [20:19] AlanBell: ^ [20:19] :) [20:22] ooooh [20:22] http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wdr4300 [20:24] ^ teh shiney [20:25] I'm thinking about buying 4 of these http://bit.ly/OCDm9e o.O [20:25] your house is that big? [20:25] haha [20:35] AlanBell: what would you use them for though? [20:35] r [20:35] Azelphur: ^ [20:38] MartijnVdS: to replace my current ones [20:38] I have 4 monitors atm, 1920x1200, wanna upgrade :) [20:38] thanks for help daubers / alanmac [20:38] Azelphur: do you use them? [20:38] MartijnVdS: yep, using them right now :) [20:39] how do i use boot options with linux boot: [20:39] Seems simple enough. leave at chippenham off at juncton 3 of m4 hounslow central then South kensington [20:39] As my son says 'simples' [20:39] Azelphur: ALL of them? [20:39] MartijnVdS: yes [20:39] Azelphur: that's one big irssi terminal [20:39] MartijnVdS: can't use irssi effectively while chatting on lots of channels at the same time [20:40] I have a tiled IRC setup [20:40] zleap: Hold shift while starting, you get the boot loader screen, it has a list of keys you can use at the bottom [20:40] ok [20:40] diplo: ?!?! [20:40] friend is trying to boot a macboot (old one) with 10.10 [20:40] powerpc mac? [20:41] he got the boot: prompt pressed enter and he gets a blank screen so I guess there is a option somewhere to disable or enable things [20:41] yeah ppc mac [20:41] those are different :) [20:41] its power pc [20:41] as in processor [20:41] MartijnVdS: Off to National history museum in the morning, guys were giving me some advice [20:41] zleap: yeah, I don't know which bootloader they use these days [20:42] zleap: I used my last PPC mac in '01 or something [20:42] hmm [20:42] i am sure there is something you caqn type at the boot: bit just can't remember [20:42] you can [20:42] it's openfirmware [20:42] oh wait [20:42] are they still using yaboot?! [20:43] or are they on grub2 [20:44] zleap: http://swoolley.org/man.cgi/8/yaboot [20:45] zleap: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot ? [20:46] thanks [20:48] random UK olympic question, did we end up sending Dwane Chambers in the end ? [20:48] watching the 100 meters final, and discussing if he didn't get sent or just didn't get through [20:50] ikonia: http://www.london2012.com/athlete/chambers-dwain-1250041/ [20:50] can't find any info on his heats, I guess he just didn't get through then [20:51] he didn't get through [20:51] after all that.... [20:52] It's an iBook g3 800mhz [20:52] bolt just beat the olympic record [20:52] stunning [20:52] zleap: same generation as my green imac ;) [20:53] AH [20:53] wil see if the video boot options work [20:54] http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/news/msl20120805.html [20:54] I used to run Debian on it [20:54] diplo: yes! Tomorrow morning! [20:54] \o/ [20:54] yay [20:59] 12.53.178.253 31337 [21:03] I have a hard time understanding Blake :| === shane is now known as shane_ === shane is now known as shane_ === livingdaylight is now known as nobodhi === nobodhi is now known as bodhilicious