[00:00] <Degorth> gvo: what do you mean
[00:00] <gvo> Degorth: What version of Ubuntu?
[00:00] <Degorth> gvo: 12.04 LTS
[00:00] <Degorth> gvo: running kernel 3.5
[00:01] <TrevMyster> Can someone tell me how to make Windows 7 seamless while using virtual box to run it?
[00:01] <gvo> Degorth: OK so who knows how to get to the equivalent of System/Administration/Hardware drivers on the piece of trash 120.4 has fostered on us?
[00:02] <tomreyn> TrevMyster: install the virtual box guest addons on it
[00:03] <Degorth> trying to install Nvidia drivers through Additional Drivers gives an error, and trying to go to the command shell to close the X Server for Nvidia's installer leaves me with a blank screen
[00:03] <tomreyn> gvo: do you mean jockey-gtk ?
[00:03] <gvo> Degorth: what error
[00:04] <Degorth> gvo: it points me to a log file, let me look
[00:04] <gvo> tomreyn: I have no idea, I refuse to install 12.03
[00:04] <gvo> 12.04 Is a piece of trash.  As is unity.
[00:04] <tomreyn> gvo: jockey-gtk is the 'Additional drivers' screen
[00:04] <gvo> tomreyn: Thanks.
[00:04] <gvo> I guess Degorth has found it.
[00:05] <tomreyn> gvo: i'm happy with 12.04 besides of the general direction ubuntu is taking since i've switched to xubuntu
[00:06] <gvo> tomreyn: I understand.
[00:08] <Degorth> gvo: I tried it again to generate the log file but it doesn't seem to be making it anymore, though the error still happens
[00:08] <Degorth> it's saying there should be a file called jockey.log in /var/log but there isn't one
[00:09] <gvo> wonderful.
[00:10] <gvo> So to get to a terminal window, you can Ctrl-Alt-F1, to get back to a gui you can use ALT-F7 (maybe>
[00:11] <Degorth> gvo: when I ctrl+alt+F1 it drops me into a blank screen
[00:11] <ekaj> Type something.
[00:11] <gvo> Right
[00:11] <Degorth> I found the log file, I guess it writes it when you close the program instead of when it actually refers to it
[00:12] <HermanDE> Hello world.  What is the beer flavor of the day?
[00:12] <ekaj> Anyone know when they will fix the "no 1920x1080" resolution bug?
[00:12] <gvo> !ot|HermanDE
[00:13] <Degorth> gvo: here's the log, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1129855/
[00:17] <hogehige> test
[00:17] <gvo> Degorth: This might be the cause http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57781-NVIDIA-drivers-for-GeForce-7300LE-in-Kubuntu-12-04-Beta-1
[00:17] <gvo> Otherwise I don't have a clue
[00:18] <keithclark> I'm trying to get the video capture feature of youtube to work for me but I get a Flash Players settings box come up that asks me to allow access but I cannot check any of the boxes to enable the feature.  Any way around this?
[00:20] <Degorth> gvo: I guess the driver isn't compatible with kernel 3.5 then since this only started happening when I upgraded
[00:21] <gvo> That's not surprising.
[00:22] <kantian> keithclark: of course, you might save yourself a lot of trouble by using a program from the ubuntu repositories called youtube-dl (that is, youtube downloader)
[00:22] <kantian> which runs in a terminal and uses wget
[00:23] <keithclark> kantian, how to capture in the first place though?  I tried VLC but it gives me some kind of audio feedback and locks up my computer.
[00:23] <tomreyn> gvo: the proprietary drivers usually take a while to adjust to updated kernel ABIs.
[00:23] <tomreyn> actually that was for  Degorth ^
[00:24] <cyphin> does anyone know why my HDMI sound driver won't show up in alsamixer?
[00:24] <kantian> keithclark:  you simply put the URL for the youtube video in the terminal command
[00:24] <Degorth> so then is there a way to set up multiple monitors without the drivers?
[00:24] <kantian> and youtube-dl does all the rest for you
[00:24] <keithclark> kantian, maybe you misunderstood.  I want to upload video.  I wanted to use youtube to capture video.
[00:24] <gvo> tomreyn: Yep
[00:26] <tomreyn> keithclark: looks like he misunderstood. and left. this bug has been around for a good while, and adobe seems to have more important things to deal with.
[00:26] <Dr_willis> cyphin,  you may want to check your exact chipset at the forums and askubuntu.com  for my GF108 (i think) i had to install the pavcontrol tool and twiddle with it..  then when i rebooted it started working.. not sure why, ive had to do this on the last 3 releases including 12.10
[00:27] <keithclark> tomreyn, ah, got you.  Is there some application that will record video for me?
[00:27] <Dr_willis> bbl
[00:27] <tomreyn> keithclark: you could file a bug report or search existing bug reports for workarounds, if any.
[00:27] <hogehige> test
[00:27] <hogehige> quit
[00:27] <tomreyn> keithclark: of course, plenty. i'm not so much into this srea, though. what do you plan to record?
[00:27] <cyphin> i have a ati hd 7750 how would i find the chipset?
[00:28] <keithclark> tomreyn, just video on my netbook
[00:28] <tomreyn> keithclark: are you looking for something like a desktop recorder, i.e. to record what you are doing on your screen?
[00:28] <tomreyn> keithclark: or do you want to capture from your webcam or similar?
[00:29] <keithclark> tomreyn, webcam
[00:30] <tomreyn> keithclark: try cheese for starters, but there can be something better, i'm really not into that.
[00:30] <keithclark> tomreyn, no problem at all.  Thanks and I'll start there.
[00:31] <tomreyn> you can search the software repository for 'webcam' or 'video recording'
[00:31] <Degorth> apparently some nvidia driver is still installed on this machine since the X server control program is still there, how do I delete it completely?
[00:32] <tomreyn> cyphin: something like this should tell: lspci -knnv | grep -A10 VGA
[00:33] <blackshirt> check it if nvidia still installed, you should sure if still there
[00:33] <Degorth> it appears to be deactivated in Additional Drivers but the X server settings program is still here
[00:33] <Luid> My wireless only works 50% of the time when I boot up my laptop, can someone please help me?
[00:34] <tomreyn> Degorth: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install && sudo apt-get purge nvidia\* && echo -e "\n\nstatus: $?"
[00:34] <tomreyn> Degorth: and tell me what it says in the last line
[00:34] <blackshirt> luid, what you mean with only worj 50%?
[00:34] <Luid> Well, I booted up my laptop and the wireless didn't work, but sometimes it does :/
[00:35] <Luid> Like it's not starting up something correctly
[00:35] <blackshirt> luid, what your wifi card?
[00:36] <addon> when iam trying to run a bash command via terminal it i dont have the permission needed what should i do to gain it?
[00:36] <tomreyn> Degorth: if it says "status: 0" then you: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf{,.orig}
[00:36] <Degorth> tomreyn: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:36] <Luid> What command is that? Sorry
[00:37] <addon> Luid:are you talking to me?
[00:37] <tomreyn> Degorth: close any other software which is using the package management system, such as synaptic, aptitude, jockey (the add-on driver installer)
[00:37] <addon> Luid:for installing adobe flash player ./libflashplayer.so
[00:37] <blackshirt> luid, you can use lspci command? And look at neteork/wifi controller
[00:37] <tomreyn> Degorth: and redo the whole line
[00:37] <blackshirt> Luid, maybe some broadcomm or atheros chipset i think
[00:38] <Degorth> tomreyn: status: o
 Degorth: if it says "status: 0" then you: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf{,.orig}
[00:38] <Degorth> 0*
[00:38] <Degorth> tomreyn: okay now what
[00:38] <tomreyn> and then you logout and login again
[00:38] <Degorth> okay
[00:38] <Degorth> brb
[00:39] <tomreyn> hopefully
[00:39] <Luid> Blackshirt: 'Network controller: intel corporation PRO/ wireless 3945ABG [Golan]'
[00:39] <tomreyn> ;-)
[00:39] <Degorth> it wants me to reboot for updates
[00:39] <NastyNaz> is there any way to attach multiple sessions to one 'screen' ? e.g. can I connect to irssi on my server from more than one client simultaneously without detaching?
[00:39] <tomreyn> well, do it
[00:39] <Degorth> okay :v
[00:39] <Degorth> brb
[00:40] <tomreyn> NastyNaz: first user does 'screen' to start the session, second user does 'screen -x' to join it.
[00:40] <Luid> Any idea what could be wrong?
[00:42] <tomreyn> Luid: your ubuntu version is?
[00:42] <NastyNaz> tomreyn: OMFG THIS IS AWESOME. Thank you. Literally the best line I have read in irc all year.
[00:42] <Luid> Latest. 12.04
[00:42] <addon> what are the location of the browser firefox plugins in nautilus?
[00:42] <tomreyn> NastyNaz: wow, sorry to hear that ;-)
[00:42] <tomreyn> NastyNaz: you know about man pages and all?
[00:43] <tomreyn> NastyNaz: i'm glad i could help, though
[00:43] <NastyNaz> tomreyn: yeah but usually they are too ofuscated to make any sense of
[00:43] <tomreyn> NastyNaz: well screen is a bit complex, i agree. look for "screen cheat sheet", possibly adding "GNU" on the web, you should find at least two good ones.
[00:45] <tomreyn> Luid: so sometimes it does not work at all after boot, and sometimes it works all the time?
[00:45] <tomreyn> Luid: or does it fail after some minutes of working fine?
[00:45] <NastyNaz> tomreyn: wow very useful, thanks.
[00:45] <tomreyn> yw
[00:45] <Luid> Tomreyn: Sometimes it works when I boot up (until I shutdown), sometimes it doesn't (until I keep restarting  until it works)
[00:46] <tomreyn> Luid: but does it fail sometimes without rebooting while it worked for a while?
[00:47] <Luid> Nope, works until I shutdown.
[00:47] <tomreyn> Luid: do you know what a wireless kill switch is?
[00:47] <Degorth> tomreyn: after rebooting I get a black screen with the words 'could not write byte: broken pipe' on all of my monitors
[00:47] <Degorth> I'm in recovery mode right now
[00:47] <Luid> Tomreyn: the physical switch? If not, no
[00:48] <tomreyn> Luid: yes, a physical switch, i was wondering whether you accidentially switched it off there.
[00:48] <tomreyn> Luid: sounds lame, i know, but it's happened to many people before.
[00:49] <tomreyn> Degorth: hmm okay that's not so great. sounds like X crashed there.
[00:49] <Luid> Tomreyn: nah, that is on. I boot up, it works, i boot up, it doesn't. Like there is a chance factor for it to work...
[00:49] <Degorth> tomreyn: so what do I do then?
[00:50] <tomreyn> Degorth: you mean X recovery mode, right? so you get the low resolution and slow and sketchy graphical desktop without acceleration?
[00:50] <Degorth> tomreyn: it looks normal right now, I just booted into recovery mode from GRUB and continued with normal boot
[00:51] <Degorth> tomreyn: if I don't do that it seems it comes up with  the broken pipe, I tried it twice
[00:51] <tomreyn> Luid: hmm, can you check whether you have the linux-firmware package installed? dpkg -l linux-firmware | grep ^ii
[00:51] <tomreyn> Luid: if it outputs something then you already have it installed.
[00:51] <Degorth> tomreyn: it appears to get my resolution correctly, though it's underscanning a bit
[00:52] <Luid> Tomreyn: error, unknown option
[00:52] <tomreyn> Degorth: okay so X fails when you boot up normally, but not when you boot up in recovery / single user mode.
[00:52] <Degorth> tomreyn: it appears that way
[00:53] <tomreyn> Degorth I think there must be more leftovers from the nvidea driver installed which we didn't remove, yet
[00:53] <tomreyn> I'll look up a how.to on cleaning up that mess properly
[00:53] <Degorth> tomreyn: it also tells me that it can't apply certain options to the screen (leftovers from Nvidia's driver when it was working and I had it configured to run three monitors)
[00:54] <tomreyn> Luid: try again, i think you had a typo there. it's dpkg, then dash and a lower case L
[00:54] <Degorth> tomreyn: would removing the xorg.conf help?
[00:54] <anonbit> anybody on know much about torrenting through a vpn?
[00:55] <tomreyn> Degorth: you already moved it out of the way earlier, if you did as i suggested
[00:55] <Luid> Tomreyn: it output something.
[00:55] <tomreyn> Degorth:  <tomreyn> Degorth: if it says "status: 0" then you: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf{,.orig}
[00:55] <Degorth> tomreyn: I did that
[00:56] <Degorth> tomreyn: doing it now returns with no file or directory
[00:56] <tomreyn> Luid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WirelessTroubleshootingProcedure
[00:56] <tomreyn> try this
[00:58] <nabil> hi
[00:58] <TrevMyster> Can anyone tell me some "must have" software for ubuntu?
[00:58] <nabil> I need help installing utorrent
[00:58] <TrevMyster> Nabil
[00:58] <TrevMyster> Don't use uTorrent it's not for Linux
[00:58] <Linux_Guy> TrevMyster,  ubuntu tweak  or MyUnity are good and come in very handy
[00:58] <mkquist> having a problem with desktop effects 11.04 nvidia not  working... driver activated but not in use and no effects
[00:58] <TrevMyster> Use Deluge
[00:59] <mkquist> TrevMyster: darktable for photos
[00:59] <TrevMyster> Search the Software Center for Deluge
[00:59] <nabil> how can I install it
[00:59] <TrevMyster> Thank you both(: I'm going to add those to the download que. Anything else?
[00:59] <TrevMyster> Nabil
[00:59] <TrevMyster> Open the Software Center
[00:59] <tomreyn> Degorth: please do: dpkg -l nvidia\* | grep ^i
[00:59] <Linux_Guy> TrevMyster,  depending on if you game, desura isn't too bad
[00:59] <Degorth> tomreyn: nothing happened
[01:00] <TrevMyster> Next search for Deluge, click on it, and click install.
[01:00] <mkquist> TrevMyster: google earth is always a fav, if not just for ubuntu
[01:00] <TrevMyster> Does anyone know any Novel Writing software? Specifically for writing novels?
[01:00] <Luid> Please provide that link again, I lost it
[01:01] <nabil> deluge install in progress
[01:01] <TrevMyster> Nabil, Congratz.
[01:01] <Degorth> I hope Nvidia really improves their drivers soon
[01:01] <TrevMyster> Now nabil go to your favorite torrent downloader site (Isohunt, Piratebay .etc) and just download away
[01:01] <tomreyn> Degorth: okay, no output, so you have no nvidia* packages installed (but you may still have files in place which are not packaged).
[01:02] <TrevMyster> Does anyone know how I can improve Zynga Poker it laggs
[01:02] <nabil> TrevMyster: some sites require utorrent as it allows to keep track of ratio
[01:02] <Degorth> tomreyn: so what do I do then, I don't know where those files could be
[01:03] <TrevMyster> Nabil, trust me. uTorrent is only a bittorrent client. Any torrent client can keep track of ratios.
[01:03] <nabil> TrevMyster: if you say so
[01:03] <Luid> Tomreyn: can you please link me again? I lost it
[01:03] <Degorth> I thought ratios were kept by the site not just the program
[01:04] <TrevMyster> Degroth
[01:04] <TrevMyster> They are
[01:04] <TrevMyster> Lol..
[01:04] <TrevMyster> Actually
[01:04] <TrevMyster> It's all in the .torrent file
[01:04] <tomreyn> Degorth: nor do i, nor does your operating system. that's why using non-packaged software is bad. you used the nvidia driver you downloaded from nvidia.com right?
[01:04] <FloodBot1> TrevMyster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 Luid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WirelessTroubleshootingProcedure
[01:04] <Degorth> tomreyn: no, I actually downloaded it from Additional Drivers
[01:04] <Degorth> tomreyn: I guess my mistake was not uninstalling it before upgrading the kernel
[01:05] <nabil> TrevMyster: can I use this path for downloaded files? /host/Users/Bonjour/Downloads
[01:05] <tomreyn> Degorth: oh only using additional drivers, that's good actually, but then i can't explain the unclean state we're in.
[01:06] <tomreyn> Degorth: give me a minute, i need to look more for an uninstallation tutorial
[01:06] <Degorth> tomreyn: okay
[01:07] <tomreyn> Degorth: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau && echo status $?
[01:07] <tomreyn> and tell me what it says on the last line
[01:08] <Degorth> tomreyn: status 0
[01:08] <Degorth> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[01:09] <tomreyn> Degorth: ok. for later reference, to break it again, here's the installation guide for the (proprietary) nvidia driver: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:10] <Degorth> tomreyn: would using apt-get autoremove help?
[01:10] <tomreyn> Degorth: no, but you can safely do it nevertheless. now do this again: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf{,.orig}
[01:10] <Degorth> tomreyn: no such file
[01:11] <luid_> tomreyn: I rebooted my laptop until the wireless worked, to try that link. that link didn't help much, but I entered what It said.
[01:11] <Nicekiwi> help! amarok has stopped responding and i cant kill it
[01:11] <tomreyn> Degorth: you only have this one PC, right? so you're working on ti right now=?
[01:11] <Degorth> tomreyn: yes
[01:11] <luid_> tomreyn: when I do rfkill list when wireless is off, the device doesn't even show up. When I try it when it's working, it shows up
[01:12] <tomreyn> Degorth: note this down on a sheet of paper: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:12] <nabil> TrevMyster: still here?
[01:13] <Degorth> tomreyn: done
[01:13] <tomreyn> Degorth: then press ctrl-alt-f1 and login there. then type the command you wrote down there. then reboot again.
[01:13] <Degorth> tomreyn: the last time I did that combination I got a blank screen
[01:13] <Degorth> this must be frustrating :P
[01:13] <tomreyn> Degorth: what exactly triggered the blank screen?
[01:14] <tomreyn> the dpkg-reconfigure command?
[01:14] <Degorth> tomreyn, I pressed CTRL+ALT+F1 and got a blank screen
[01:14] <Degorth> I assume it's supposed to give me a terminal instead
[01:14] <Vlan> gvo: i did it, thank you!
[01:14] <Degorth> but no words or anything appear
[01:15] <tomreyn> Degorth: oh right, you may need to press shift key or enter then if the screen saver is active.
[01:15] <NastyNaz> I want to copy a local directory over to my other computer running ubuntu server. How do I do it using ssh?
[01:15] <Degorth> tomreyn: so if I get a blank screen press shift or enter?
[01:15] <tomreyn> Degorth: if ctrl-alt-f1 does not work try all the way through ctrl-alt-F1 to ctrl-alt-f8
[01:15] <Degorth> tomreyn: okay
[01:15] <tomreyn> Degorth: yes, try pressing keys first
[01:15] <tomreyn> shift + enter first
[01:16] <tomreyn>  then all the Fx
[01:16] <Degorth> okay, should I do it now?
[01:16] <tomreyn> yes please
[01:16] <Degorth> okay
[01:16]  * tomreyn crosses fingers
[01:17] <Nicekiwi> help! amarok has stopped responding and i cant kill it
[01:17] <nabil> i just installed deluge but doesnt work
[01:17] <nabil> anyone knows why?
[01:17] <tomreyn> Nicekiwi: then kill -9 it
[01:18] <Nicekiwi> tomreyn: HOW?
[01:18] <Nicekiwi> caps
[01:18] <djzn> trism: any news on that bug
[01:18] <Degorth> tomreyn, it worked and I typed the command, there was no output
[01:18] <Degorth> oh I'm supposed to reboot
[01:19] <Degorth> brb xD
[01:19] <tomreyn> Degorth: check what's in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf now
[01:19] <Degorth> tomreyn: no file
[01:19] <tomreyn> Nicekiwi: open a terminal window, then type: kill $(pidof amarok)
[01:20] <Degorth> tomreyn: I only see xorg.conf.backup and xorg.conf.orig
[01:20] <Degorth> I haven't rebooted yet
[01:20] <tomreyn> Degorth: okay, is there a reference to 'nouveau' in xorg.conf.backup?
[01:20] <trism> djzn: figured out what lightdm-gtk-greeter, unity-greeter and compiz have in common, they all set the cursor on the root window, and I can fix the cursor after a resize by doing the same (I have no idea why doing that breaks resizing though)
[01:21] <tomreyn> Nicekiwi: if this does not work then do this instead: kill -9 $(pidof amarok)
[01:21] <Degorth> tomreyn: no
[01:21] <tomreyn> Degorth: okay, don't reboot yet, another command is coming up
[01:21] <trism> djzn: also managed to break resizing on fedora by setting the cursor on the root window
[01:21] <Nicekiwi> tomreyn: neither commands worked
[01:22] <trism> djzn: so not really an ubuntu specific bug it seems
[01:23] <Guest65357> ?
[01:24] <djzn> trism: what do you mean root window
[01:24] <tomreyn> Degorth: echo -e "Section \"Device\"\n     Driver      \"radeon\"\nEndSection" | sudo tee /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:24] <tomreyn> Degorth: ten reboot
[01:25] <tomreyn> Nicekiwi: run this and point + click on the window of the nono-responding application: xkill
[01:26] <tomreyn> Degorth: *then
[01:26] <Degorth> rebooting
[01:27] <Degorth> btw it echoed Section "Device" Driver "radeon" EndSection, nothing else
[01:27] <tomreyn> Degorth: that's ok
[01:27] <TrevMyster> Thanks for who ever told me to install guest drivers to enter seamless mode.
[01:27] <nabil_> TrevMyster: still not working
[01:28] <tomreyn> TrevMyster: you're welcome
[01:28] <TrevMyster> nabil, I don't know what to tell you.
[01:28] <rudle> hi all - some websites are using this font (https://typekit.com/fonts/open-sans) and it looks kinda crummy. any pointers?
[01:28] <TrevMyster> nabil, uTorrent I don't think even works in Linux
[01:28] <nabil_> TrevMyster: tried to run it via terminal, want to hae the message error??
[01:29] <trism> djzn: the root window in x is the parent of all the other windows
[01:29] <NastyNaz> quick question: if I change my root password, will the SSH keys I use to login remotely need to be changed as well?
[01:29] <rudle> NastyNaz: no. the two things are independent
[01:30] <nabil_> (deluge:2128): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. 	Using the fallback 'C' locale. [ERROR   ] 02:25:47 gtkui:69 Unable to initialize gettext/locale! [ERROR   ] 02:25:47 gtkui:70 unsupported locale setting Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/deluge/ui/gtkui/gtkui.py", line 58, in <module>     locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, '')   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/locale.py", line 539, in set
[01:30] <NastyNaz> rudle: thanks
[01:30] <djzn> trism: oh ok
[01:30] <Nicekiwi> tomreyn: theres no window
[01:30] <djzn> trism: could it be a permission issue?
[01:30] <rudle> can someone please visit https://typekit.com/fonts/open-sans and tell me how it looks to them?
[01:31] <tomreyn> Nicekiwi: what makes you think amarok is still runniung then?
[01:31] <Nicekiwi> tomreyn: its running in the taskbar, all xkill did was kill that. and its still running
[01:31] <Nicekiwi> tomreyn: and it showins in process manager
[01:31] <tomreyn> oh okay that sucks ;-) well just logout and back in again then
[01:31] <randy__> fhujg
[01:32] <randy__> hola
[01:32] <trism> djzn: probably not, you can set the cursor as a normal user, it's either an xorg bug or a bug with how gnome updates the cursor size (no idea which)
[01:32] <randy__> vddefdxdefsfs
[01:32] <randy__> ghff
[01:32] <randy__> dgdged
[01:32] <randy__> dgd
[01:32] <randy__> d
[01:32] <randy__> gd
[01:32] <FloodBot1> randy__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:32] <rudle>  /ignore -channels #mwsf * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[01:32] <rudle> how do i use IRC?
[01:32] <tomreyn> :)
[01:33] <tomreyn> Degorth: any improvement, yet?
[01:34] <Degorth> No, in fact, now it won't work at all
[01:34] <tomreyn> gah, but you're still here?
[01:34] <rudle> can someone on an ubuntu machine take a look at this font please? it'll take two seconds! https://typekit.com/fonts/open-sans
[01:34] <Degorth> It tells me it's running in low graphics mode then never actually loads the gui
[01:34] <Degorth> On a phone
[01:35] <tomreyn> Degorth: sorry about it. well just delete the xorg config this time: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:35] <Degorth> Tomreyn: done
[01:36] <tomreyn> Degorth: are you in recovery mode now?
[01:36] <Degorth> Tomreyn: yes, at the command shell
[01:38] <tomreyn> Degorth: sudo rm /var/log/Xorg.* && rm ~/.xsession-errors
[01:38] <Degorth> Tomreyn: done
[01:38] <tomreyn> Degorth: then reboot once more (sorry). it will again not work but you should be back to recovery mode. and then i need you to post some logfiles.
[01:39] <tomreyn> i mean graphical recovery should work
[01:39] <Degorth> Tomreyn: okay rebooting
[01:41] <Degorth> Tomreyn: it's loading the gui, but it's still telling me it can't apply stored configurations for monitors
[01:41] <Degorth> Switching
[01:41] <tomreyn> Degorth: is that after you logged in?
[01:41] <Degorth> Yes
[01:41] <tomreyn> ooh ok
[01:42] <tomreyn> ook i expected that to be a result of failsafe X
[01:42] <Degorth> what now
[01:43] <tomreyn> but if it's after login then it's actually just telling you that the stored screen settings which were specific to the mutli-head output of the nvidia driver don't work now
[01:43] <Degorth> okay
[01:43] <tomreyn> can you remind me what the overall goal was, i guess i lost track a bit
[01:44] <Degorth> delete Nvidia drivers and get back to default ubuntu video drivers
[01:44] <Degorth> right now the X Server is crashing when not booting in recovery mode
[01:44] <Murd0ck> windows 7 room?
[01:45] <Degorth> two doors down on your left
[01:45] <Linux_Guy> just above the trap door
[01:46] <Murd0ck> hahah
[01:46] <tomreyn> Degorth: thanks. ok do this about the warning message: mv ~/.config/monitors.xml{,.orig}
[01:46] <Murd0ck> hmm
[01:46] <Murd0ck> #???
[01:46] <Degorth> tomreyn: done
[01:46] <jqbot> !ot | Murd0ck
[01:47] <Murd0ck> FTR I use ubuntu, but I got a job I need win 7 for is all..
[01:47] <pi___> ls
[01:47] <jblack> Are questions about universe packages appropriate here?
[01:47] <tomreyn> Degorth: and then please paste all the /var/log/Xorg* files as well as ~/.xession-errors (that's a hidden file in your home directory) to http://paste.ubuntu.com or another pastebin of your choice
[01:48] <Degorth> as separate pastes or all one paste
[01:48] <tomreyn> Degorth: sorry this is taking so long, i'm not very good on fixing X apparently. and getting a little tired (but not tired enough to want to cancel, yet).
[01:48] <Degorth> it's alright
[01:48] <tomreyn> Degorth: separate would be better since there can be limits
[01:48] <Degorth> okay
[01:50] <tomreyn> jblack: to my knowledge, yes, but that is limited.
[01:50] <tomreyn> jblack: just try, and if i'm wrong someone else will tell
[01:50] <Degorth> tomreyn: errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1129954/ log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1129955/
[01:50] <jblack> Hello, I'm trying to get anon-proxy, which is in universe to work. when I ru "anon-proxy --help"  I get a core dump and "*** buffer overflow detected ***: anon-proxy terminated
[01:51] <jblack> I wanted to see if anyone had thoughts, or if I should just file a bug
[01:51] <felipe_Brz> can i use the same private key for more than one server?
[01:52] <jblack> This is a fresh install of 12.04, x64.
[01:52] <felipe_Brz> like, I store a private key on  my box  and the public key on several boxes
[01:54] <glitsj16> ub anon-proxy
[01:55] <tomreyn> Degorth: okay, i'm having a look. this will take a while and i'll ask some questions. first one: you're on ubuntu 12.04, right? you are using an updated kernel then. does this problem also occur with the relase version kernel?
[01:56] <Degorth> I'm running kernel 3.5 with Ubuntu 12.04, I haven't had this issue in the release kernel
[01:56] <Degorth> in the release kernel the driver installed properly
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> Degorth, you want to awre of what is supported here the stock kernel is any other basically is not, but you may get help if you are lucky. ;)
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> aware*
[01:59] <Odra> Hello
[01:59] <Odra> Is there a way to make my mouse pointer move at a constantspeed?
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> Odra, in relations to how fast you actually move it?
[02:00] <Odra> yes
[02:00] <Odra> Right now its "accelerating"
[02:00] <Odra> And it feels very werid to me
[02:01] <Odra> It takes too long to start and too long to stop
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> Odra, meaning if you whip it fast it runs the same?
[02:01] <Odra> Yes
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> Odra, I doubt it without a hack
[02:01] <Odra> What
[02:01] <Odra> Why
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> Odra, it is supposed to move the cursor in relation to how fast you move the mouse
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> Odra, or be adjusted in the mouse settings
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> and or
[02:02] <Degorth> wilee-nilee, doesn't that also mean the mouse stops as soon as the mouse itself stops
[02:02] <Degorth> cursor*
[02:03] <Odra> It starts moving but then it drags
[02:03] <tomreyn> Degorth: okay then my guess is that the noveau X driver you have is just not compatible with the kenrle you have there. if you want updated kernel an accelerated (i.e. non VESA) X then try the xorg-edgers PPA
[02:03] <Odra> There is no "speed" setting
[02:03] <Odra> Only acceleration
[02:03] <Degorth> Odra, maybe the system is lagging?
[02:03] <Odra> That doesnt make sense
[02:03] <cschneid> is there a simple way to define firewall rules? A curses "gui" would be perfect
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> Degorth, yes but what is described is not normal
[02:03] <Guitar_Pro> What This People Talking About !!!
[02:03] <ed-1> *alot of times if my pc is up for like a day or so, on the network icon on the right side I can't open VPN or Wireless networks, the dropdown menu doesn't work
[02:03] <Guitar_Pro> Fuking Shiit
[02:04] <ed-1> it just shows a small line no dropdown list
[02:04] <Guitar_Pro> good nigth fuckers
[02:04] <Degorth> tomreyn how would I do that
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> !op | Guitar_Pro
[02:04] <tomreyn> Degorth: based on your logs the nouveaudriver is properly selected as the intended driver to be used, but while loading it quits with (EE) [drm] failed to open device
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> sorry ops they left
[02:04] <ubuntu-studio> how do I install adobe flash on unbuntu..
[02:04] <tomreyn> Degorth: before i explain this, please tell me why you want to run the updated kernel anyway?
[02:05] <cschneid> is ufw still current? I see an 8.04 doc about it, but that's pretty old
[02:05] <Degorth> tomreyn: I have some software that the updated kernel supports where the release kernel doesn't (sound card and some other peripherals)
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-studio, easiest way is to install the restricted-extras
[02:05] <javierf_> Hi! I use ubuntu 12.04. I'm spanish, so when I play movies (generally in VLC) I use spanish subtitles. But every letter not existing in english becomes an ? (such as á, é, ñ, ...) How could I solve that? thanks!!!
[02:06] <Linux_Guy> heck of a pager call wilee-nilee   thank you for getting that taken care of
[02:06] <Linux_Guy> :)
[02:06] <ubuntu-studio> how do I install the restricted extras
[02:06] <tomreyn> Degorth: oh such new hardware then. okay, let me fetch the link
[02:06] <Degorth> ubuntu-studio, go to the Software Center and search for it
[02:06] <Degorth> tomreyn, the kernel also added support for the newer Nvidia cards, correct? I have the 680
[02:06] <jblack> I decided to file a bug. an anonymous proxy complaining about buffer overflows after a clean install sounds scary to me
[02:07] <nolpek> off-topic: Does anyone know how to request an invite to the #java channel?
[02:07] <Degorth> isn't there an irc command for it?
[02:07]  * nolpek googles
[02:07] <joint2k> ubuntu.. go to the software center and search for flash. then install the flash player plugin
[02:07] <Degorth> nolpek, try /knock?
[02:07] <jblack> nolpek: /topic #java
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> Linux_Guy, I rarely call the op's and missed the sign of while doing it oh well. I usually just put them in ignore.
[02:07] <jblack> it says to join ##java
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> sign off*
[02:08] <usr13> !register | nolpek
[02:08] <tomreyn> Degorth: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa read this, read it again, and if you want what you read, do: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[02:08] <Linux_Guy> wilee-nilee, still good to nab when you can.
[02:08] <nolpek> thx guys
[02:08] <ubuntu-studio> is there a way to run my old .exe files on this?
[02:08] <usr13> nolpek: (you just need a registered nick)
[02:09] <joint2k> install wine
[02:09] <Linux_Guy> wine + playonlinux
[02:09] <theadmin> How can I associate Vuze with magnet links? Tried messing around with stuff in /usr/share/applications to no extent.
[02:10] <myersg7> is there any Ubuntu Linux driver for a Lexmark 8300 all-in-one printer?
[02:10] <Degorth> to,reyn: I'm trying the ppa
[02:10] <bullitt> i just installed fluxbox under ubuntu.. amateur question: how do i switch the desktop environment ?
[02:11] <joint2k> at the sign in screen
[02:11] <iceroot> bullitt: logout and then choose the DE you want there
[02:11] <myersg7> Can anyone help me?
[02:11] <bullitt> that will become the default? I will be using text mode to start up.
[02:11] <iceroot> !printer | myersg7
[02:11] <W4sp> myersg7: You should be able to get PPD driver from Lexmark web site, I use CUPS do integrate them into our systems.
[02:12] <Degorth> tomreyn, I've added the repository and done sudo apt-get update, should I reboot now
[02:12] <theadmin> Degorth: That's unnecessary.
[02:12] <ubuntu-studio> ok so I installed that restricted extras thing, but it wont let me use flash still on firefox?
[02:13] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: Have you restarted Firefox?
[02:13] <ubuntu-studio> Yes.
[02:13] <ubuntu-studio> It comes up with no addons or anything either.
[02:13] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: Is flashplugin-installer actually installed? Not sure if it's a part of restricted-extras
[02:13] <ubuntu-studio> it says it has flash in it
[02:13] <myersg7> can some one help me find the PPD file then..I have been looking
[02:13] <tomreyn> Degorth: you'll also want to: sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:14] <Degorth> ubuntu-studio, go back to the install page in the Software Manager, scrol down to addons or plugins and see if flash is checked
[02:14] <ubuntu-studio> and it says I have it installed on Ubuntu software center
[02:14] <ubuntu-studio> It is
[02:14] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: If you are using Firefox, I recommend downloading the "FlashAid" addon. It helps with Flash problems on Firefox on Ubuntu :/
[02:14] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: Such problems were always there, so.
[02:14] <myersg7> I looked at openprinting.org and mine isn't on the list.
[02:15] <Degorth> tomreyn, done
[02:15] <NastyNaz> how do I get the size (columns*rows) of the current terminal?
[02:15] <theadmin> NastyNaz: echo "$COLUMNS*$ROWS"
[02:15] <ubuntu-studio> Nothing comes up when I type in flashaid
[02:15] <NastyNaz> theadmin: thanks
[02:15] <theadmin> Huh.
[02:15] <theadmin> NastyNaz: Actually, that doesn't seem to be valid
[02:16] <Degorth> ubuntu-studio, is the Adobe Flash plugin installed?
[02:16] <theadmin> NastyNaz: Bah, it's $LINES, not $ROWS
[02:16] <ubuntu-studio> yes
[02:16] <NastyNaz> theadmin: lines works, thanks
[02:16] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: Where are you searching for FlashAid? It's on addons.mozilla.org
[02:16] <ubuntu-studio> oh I was looking on the software center
[02:17] <myersg7> I really need help on getting this printer working if possible...
[02:17] <tomreyn> Degorth: here's your bug for the proprietary driver, you may want to subscribe to it to know when that's fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1029082
[02:18] <ubuntu-studio> I still don't see any FlashAid when I type it in on mozilla addons
[02:18] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: Ah, seems it's a dead project now. Never mind.
[02:19] <Degorth> tomreyn thanks for the help, is there anything else I need to do now?
[02:19] <ubuntu-studio> So what can I do?
[02:19] <ubuntu-studio> It still asks me to install Adobe Flash Player
[02:19] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: Well, for starters pastebin the output of this: find / -iname '*libflashplayer.so*' -print 2>/dev/null
[02:19] <tomreyn> Degorth: nothing i can think of now, i suggest you reboot
[02:19] <Degorth> tomreyn okay, thanks
[02:20] <tomreyn> Degorth: still there?
[02:20] <Ugly_Duck> anyone have ifolder up and running?
[02:20] <Degorth> tomreyn: yes
[02:21] <ubuntu-studio> umm
[02:21] <ubuntu-studio> How do I do all that..
[02:21] <tomreyn> Degorth: you may have two linux 3.5 kernels installed now. or still the old 3.5er, or the new 3.5er from xorg-edgers. we should make sure you boot the xorg-edgers one.
[02:22] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: Do what? Open a terminal, type what I said in -- it's one line, by the way.
[02:22] <ubuntu-studio> ok
[02:22] <Degorth> tomreyn: yeah I noticed it downloaded 3.5.0.8 or something similar to that
[02:22] <tomreyn> Degorth: can you should me (pastebin) /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[02:22] <ubuntu-studio> it said no such file
[02:23] <tomreyn> Degorth: also the output of: dpkg -l linux-image\* | grep ^i
[02:23] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: You're doing something wrong, "find" does not produce such output.
[02:23] <Degorth> tomreyn okay
[02:23] <ubuntu-studio> am I supposed to put spaces?
[02:23] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: Just paste the command in, and you're supposed to enter it exactly like it appears
[02:25] <ubuntu-studio> I pressed enter and nothing comes up
[02:25] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: Seems Flash failed to install. You'll have to reinstall it: sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-installer
[02:26] <myersg7> Can some one please help me..I can't install this printer on my own, I have tried.
[02:26] <cfhowlett> myersg7: details
[02:27] <ubuntu-studio> ok done, now what?
[02:27] <myersg7> I have a Lexmark 8300 all in one printer
[02:27] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: Well, now try again.
[02:28] <myersg7> Im using Ubuntu 12.04 32 bit
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> myersg7, you tried through printers?
[02:28] <cfhowlett> myersg7: ok.  direct connection or network
[02:28] <myersg7> Direct connection
[02:28] <ubuntu-studio> Now it says you need to upgrade it
[02:29] <cfhowlett> myersg7: I'm seeing a downloadable driver for that series on the lexmark site.  Have you got the driver?
[02:29] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: Well, that's already going somewhere. Just tell it to use the current version (Ubuntu isn't too up-to-date, especially if you're using an old version of it)
[02:29] <myersg7> no..can you send me a link.
[02:29] <cfhowlett> myersg7: http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=lexmark+8300+ubuntu&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35
[02:31] <myersg7> what site are you talking about?
[02:31] <ubuntu-studio> how do I do it to do that?
[02:31] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: Uh, isn't there a "Load anyway" button?
[02:31] <cfhowlett> myersg7: try the first couple of hits.  They showed lexmark download links.
[02:31] <ubuntu-studio> No
[02:32] <myersg7> I did but I see nowere to download a file
[02:32] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: Ugh. Okay, head over to the Adobe website, grab the .deb package from there (for Ubuntu) and use that.
[02:32] <Ormie> Hi, Most features on Byobu doesn't work. eg. new session. Nothing happens when I do the key shortcut and sometimes the application i'm running takes that keyboard shortcut. What can I do?
[02:32] <myersg7> http://ptf.com/lexmark/lexmark+8300+series+driver+for+linux+ubuntu/
[02:32] <cfhowlett> myersg7: right.  try that.
[02:32] <ubuntu-studio> there is no .deb package
[02:32] <ubuntu-studio> only tar rpm and yum
[02:33] <myersg7> there is no download link though
[02:33] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: They call it "apt"
[02:33] <myersg7> and here is http://support.lexmark.com/index?page=productSelection&locale=EN&userlocale=EN_US    but my printer isn
[02:33] <ubuntu-studio> I dont see a apt either
[02:33] <myersg7> on the list
[02:33] <usr13> msg ubottu !flash
[02:33] <myersg7> *it is not on the list
[02:33] <ubuntu-studio> only tar rpm and yum
[02:34] <usr13> ubuntu-studio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[02:34] <Ormie> ?
[02:34] <Ormie> i read the man page
[02:34] <Ormie> but tried, not work
[02:34] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ - select your architecture (32 or 64-bit) and then "Flash player for Ubuntu (apt)"
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu-studio, Doesn't ubuntu studio have a restricted-extras package?
[02:35] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: Apparently, Firefox won't run the flashplugin Ubuntu provides because it's "out of date"
[02:35] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio: try xubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:35] <ubuntu-studio> ok
[02:35] <theadmin> cfhowlett: See my response to wilee-nilee too
[02:35] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio: as ubuntustudio is built on xubuntu
[02:35] <myersg7> I am not finding the Driver anywere
[02:36] <cfhowlett> theadmin: ah.  for some reason my flash installed without issue - then again I installed extras & medibuntu?
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, I have seen that with using the flashaid addon when a supposed beta is installed, runs it but shows missing plugins.
[02:36] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: FlashAid no longer exists.
[02:36] <theadmin> cfhowlett: Might not be on Precise?
[02:37] <cfhowlett> theadmin: entirely possible
[02:37] <theadmin> cfhowlett: Which is why I'm guessing to use the Adobe's repo. Works anyway.
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, thanx  had it still loaded, lol.
[02:37] <cfhowlett> myersg7: what happens when you try to install the printer without the drivers?
[02:38] <cfhowlett> theadmin: excellent advice there
[02:39] <ubuntu-studio> it works now thanks
[02:39] <myersg7> how do I do that? Oh it ask me to select the printer from the list or provide the PPD file because it can't find it.
[02:39] <theadmin> ubuntu-studio: Great
[02:39] <cfhowlett> myersg7: OK - so it appears you WILL have to go to lexmark support and find that driver.  Sorry, but that's the best advice I can offer.
[02:40] <pix3>  /cler
[02:42] <W4sp> myersg7: http://support.lexmark.com:80/lexmark/index?page=content&productCode=&locale=EN&segment=SUPPORT&viewlocale=en_US&searchid=1344134341460&actp=search&userlocale=EN_US&id=DR860
[02:43] <cfhowlett> !cookie|W4sp
[02:45] <felipe_Brz> i have a private key which works for logging into a server but doesn't work to log into another server, and i've double checked that both remote servers have the same public key files and permissions... where could I look in order to troubleshoot this?
[02:49] <moreno> Hello World
[02:49] <Unix-Dude> Hello moreno
[02:49] <moreno> Nada using Xchat just experimenting
[02:49] <moreno> Whats your client?
[02:49] <moreno> I also use AndChat
[02:49] <Unix-Dude> Xchat :)
[02:50] <Unix-Dude> Are you new to Linux?
[02:50] <moreno> It's pretty cool... question. What other way would there have been to find the channels with freenode server?
[02:50] <moreno> Yes I am.
[02:50] <theadmin> !alis | moreno
[02:50] <Degorth> I've been trying to get chatzilla working but it's being a pain
[02:50] <Unix-Dude> You can use /list
[02:50] <moreno> Yea I hear chatzilla is good client
[02:50] <theadmin> Unix-Dude: One does not simply use /list on Freenode :/
[02:51] <diamonds> where are official torrents
[02:51] <Unix-Dude> Yea, chatzilla can be pretty annoying
[02:51] <moreno> I'm enjoying Xchat though
[02:51] <diamonds> for 12.04
[02:51] <Unix-Dude> You can grep it haha
[02:51] <Degorth> I got it working in Mint just fine
[02:51] <Unix-Dude> Tho not in xchat i guess
[02:51] <Degorth> I think xulrunner's being a pain
[02:51] <theadmin> !torrents | diamonds
[02:51] <Degorth> if anyone wants to help me get chatzilla working? :P
[02:52] <diamonds> ty
[02:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Yo, does anyone have a problem (in 12.04) where lightdm just loops after you proceed to log in?
[02:52] <TomM2> So like.
[02:52] <TomM2> Do LTS users get better support in here than non-LTS users?
[02:52] <moreno> Thanks UD
[02:52] <diamonds> should I have any trouble putting it on a DVD?
[02:52] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: That often happens when your user configs are messed up. Desktop stuff and the like. Create a new user, see if it works
[02:52] <diamonds> any diff. from CD?
[02:52] <SonikkuAmerica> theadmin: OK
[02:52] <theadmin> TomM2: "better"? Nope. Longer.
[02:52] <cfhowlett> Diamonds y u no use USB?
[02:53] <TomM2> theadmin, Oh so it means Long term support like for the OS not for actual support for problems?
[02:53] <TomM2> I dun goofed.
[02:53] <TomM2> That's why 8.04 LTS is still supported?
[02:53] <theadmin> TomM2: Well, "support" means 2 things: 1) Keeping the software repositories online, 2) Answering questions related to this version in the IRC/forums/etc
[02:54] <TomM2> Ah.
[02:54] <diamonds> cfhowlett: just don't have one on hand
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> TomM2, only the server I believe
[02:54] <TomM2> 10.10 = obsolete?
[02:54] <SonikkuAmerica> TomM2: yes
[02:54] <TomM2> Why is it only the .04 versions are LTS?
[02:54] <theadmin> TomM2: LTS come around every two years. And the scheme is "year.month". Canonical tends to release LTS'es in April, thus .04
[02:55] <BlackAngelPR> here is the list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[02:55] <cfhowlett> TomM2: sayeth Mark Shuttleworth; so shall it be written, so shall it be done.  04 forever.
[02:55] <trism> TomM2: 6.06 was LTS
[02:55] <TomM2> Oh.
[02:55] <Linux_Guy> TomM2, not all 04s are LTS
[02:55] <TomM2> I have never seen a .10 LTS
[02:55] <TomM2> trism, There was a .06?
[02:55] <Linux_Guy> 0.04 was not and 11.04 was not an lts
[02:55] <diamonds> I have a 500gb usb drive
[02:55] <diamonds> can I use this? I'll try
[02:55] <TomM2> I thought it was stuck to .04 and .10
[02:56] <Linux_Guy> 9.04*
[02:56] <trism> TomM2: yeah, it was delayed two months
[02:56] <W4sp> cfhowlett: Thanks for the cookies. :-)
[02:56] <myersg7> Can I use the Driver cd to install it using wine?
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> TomM2, actually the 8.04 server is eol
[02:56] <TomM2> Ah.
[02:56] <theadmin> TomM2: Well, Ubuntu has a stable release schedule by now, once every 6 months (April and October), and LTS releases - once per two years, in April.
[02:56] <Linux_Guy> the .06 was in the early days. it's 04 and 10
[02:56] <TomM2> So 8.04 server will be dead soon?
[02:56] <theadmin> !hardy
[02:56] <cfhowlett> TomM2: next year EOL
[02:56] <theadmin> TomM2: ^
[02:57] <TomM2> Ah.
[02:57] <diamonds> what is going on with this .torrent download...
[02:57] <TomM2> How long do LTS's last?
[02:57] <myersg7> 5 years
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> TomM2, 5 years now
[02:57] <diamonds> it looks like it's going to take several minutes o_O (to download the tracker)
[02:57] <theadmin> TomM2: Desktop - 3 years, Server - 5
[02:57] <TomM2> Ah.
[02:57] <theadmin> Or... huh
[02:57] <theadmin> TomM2: Never mind, they all last 5 years now :/
[02:57] <TomM2> What was the first version of Ubuntu?
[02:57] <diamonds> I'm down to 190 Bps and dropping
[02:57] <theadmin> diamonds: Which client are you using?
[02:57] <Linux_Guy> 5 for the offical ubuntu and kubuntu
[02:58] <diamonds> Chromium < theadmin
[02:58] <Linux_Guy> xubuntu is still only 3 and lubuntu is only 18 months last I read for it
[02:58] <diamonds> I'm d/ling the .torrent file via http
[02:58] <SonikkuAmerica_> theadmin: No sale on the new user thing.
[02:58] <theadmin> TomM2: 4.10 was the first, IIRC.
[02:58] <diamonds> OK it's done, something was wrong....
[02:58] <TomM2> Okay.
[02:58] <theadmin> diamonds: Oh geez... Here, let me find you another link :/
[02:58] <theadmin> diamonds: Ah, never mind then
[02:58] <TomM2> 4.10 still available on releases.ubuntu.com?
[02:59] <theadmin> TomM2: No, it *is* available on old-releases.ubuntu.com but it will not work properly (you won't be able to install any extra apps), repos are long down
[02:59] <TomM2> Okay.
[02:59] <TomM2> I will just be running it in a vm for testing.
[03:00] <Linux_Guy> why run such an old dist?
[03:00] <theadmin> Linux_Guy: For fun? Seeing the origins etc?
[03:00] <TomM2> Linux_Guy, What theadmin said.
[03:01] <Linux_Guy> fair enoough :)
[03:01] <SonikkuAmerica> theadmin: No sale on that suggestion. At least gdm works.
[03:01] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: Huh... Odd.
[03:01] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: Well, long as it works...
[03:01] <SonikkuAmerica> It's a nice 10.04-ish April Fool's joke... XD
[03:02] <TomM2> How did canonical find out about Linux?
[03:02] <diamonds> hrm
[03:02] <diamonds> I can't get my tracker to open these .torrent files :/
[03:02] <diamonds> (transmission)
[03:02] <theadmin> What is the name of the network management tool Kubuntu uses? It would appear it's NetworkManager, but if I recall correctly, that has no KDE frontend.
[03:03] <W4sp> TomM2: Mind that there are no security patches anymore, and SSH v1 is flawed big time.
[03:03] <SonikkuAmerica> theadmin: But if it's a user config error, shouldn't there be a way to manage it in [Users and Groups]?
[03:03] <TomM2> W4sp, I won't be using ssh.
[03:03] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: Not necessarily... That doesn't let you manage all the ~/.* stuff
[03:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Or the *@(!&@*$^()(@^##*$, either. LOL
[03:03] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: Uh, I mean the hidden (config) files in your home directory.
[03:04] <diamonds> neither does deluge open it
[03:04] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: They start with ., and the common notation for the home directory in Linux is ~, so ~/.*
[03:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah ik, I was jokingly referring to the swear words one uses when they find out Ubuntu is looping itself. :-)
[03:04] <TomM2> Is 12.04 worth it? or should I wait for 12.10?
[03:04] <SonikkuAmerica> TomM2: Get 12.04 but immediately put GNOME Fallback on it.
[03:04] <theadmin> TomM2: Totally worth it honestly, I downloaded it and was amazed at how much progress Ubuntu has made since the total failure called Lucid Lynx :/
[03:05] <cfhowlett> TomM2: 12.04 is LTS and will be longer and better supported than 12.10
[03:05] <Linux_Guy> 10.04 isn't that bad
[03:05] <TomM2> I see.
[03:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh come on, 10.04 wasn't THAT bad was it? 10.10 was a fail.
[03:05] <SonikkuAmerica> At least it wasn't LTS
[03:05] <theadmin> 10.04 was alright, but it totally failed with, like, half of the devices for me. Sound, graphics, network :/
[03:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh.
[03:05]  * Linux_Guy has never had it fail on me :)
[03:06] <TomM2> Linux_Guy, I was on 10.04 then moved to 10.10 but flightgear was not supported at the latest version for 10.x
[03:06] <Linux_Guy> but everyone has varying mileage
[03:06] <cfhowlett> TomM2: in fact, I've had a whole lot less angst, anger and issues by adopting and LTS only policy.  But perhaps that's just me...
[03:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Just 4 kix I think I'll get all the other DEs as well.
[03:06] <TomM2> I will probably just use LTS.
[03:06] <TrevMyster> Quick question everyone : Is there a way to get netflix?
[03:06] <b1tgl0w> I'm looking for a list of distros that _aren't_ rolling release. Having trouble with google. Can someone provide a link?
[03:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Ya know, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, FHDE, JWOFHDE, OIEHORIHWEPDE, and the like. :-)
[03:06] <TomM2> Probably upgrade every time a new LTS comes out.
[03:06] <TrevMyster> Oh also I can't get NixNote to start up can someone help me with that too?
[03:07] <SonikkuAmerica> bltgl0w: There's always Bing.
[03:07] <TomM2> If ubuntu was on KDE be default would Kubuntu be called Gubuntu? :P
[03:07] <theadmin> TomM2: Actually, they are developing a Gnome-based fork now, I think the name was "Gnobuntu".
[03:07] <SonikkuAmerica> TomM2: It should be, now that Ubuntu's default DE is Unity.
[03:08] <hydrox24> b1tgl0w: try searching 'linux distributions -"rolling release"'
[03:08] <TomM2> Ah.
[03:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Gnobuntu = "No 'Buntu.
[03:08] <SonikkuAmerica> :
[03:08] <SonikkuAmerica> "
[03:08] <TomM2> I am 50/50 on Unity because it's sexy at the same time it's ugly.
[03:08] <theadmin> So any help on getting magnet links to open with Vuze?
[03:08] <SonikkuAmerica> I'm of the school that says Ubuntu and GNOME are inseparable. Canonical has just broken my heart.
[03:09] <hydrox24> TomM2: I'm more than happy with GNOME-shell and would recommend it.
[03:09] <hydrox24> SonikkuAmerica: Indeed.
[03:09] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: It was a sane choice considering how "featureful" the original GNOME3 release was, sadly.
[03:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Not to mention I absolutely hate lightdm.
[03:09] <TomM2> I like how Microsoft is implementing the tablet feel to windows 8, Microsoft copied Ubuntu it's quite obvious.
[03:09] <TomM2> hydrox24, I know.
[03:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Unity can run on my machine but GNOME 3 Shell can't.
[03:10] <TrevMyster> Could someone message me on how to get NixNote to work? It's something I really need. Also if you know how I can get Netflix working that would be great too.
[03:10] <SonikkuAmerica> theadmin: You mean featureLESS. I got the White Screen of Death.
[03:10] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: That's why I took it in quotes ;)
[03:10] <hydrox24> TomM2: I don't like it, I think that Apple has it right, with having seperate interfaces for mobile and PC and then mixing the best bits.
[03:10] <hydrox24> TomM2: But this needs to continue in !offtopic.
[03:10] <TomM2> Does Ubuntu One sync from LAN? Cause it's easier to do it internally than externally?
[03:10] <TomM2> Okay.
[03:10] <TomM2> !offtopic
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> But no Java or Flash on iOS devices and ::punches the Apple off the tree::
[03:11] <Linux_Guy> netflix does not support linux and so far I've not seen it run on anything other than a boxee box, android tablet/phone or other proprietary item
[03:11] <cfhowlett> TomM2: yes.  Uone will synch from every network connection.
[03:11] <TomM2> Okay.
[03:18] <TrevMyster> :( NixNote still won't work
[03:21] <HelloWorld321> I'm trying to connect to an oracle database, and I have ojdbc14.jar in /usr/share/java.  I'm using Test Class on LibreOffice Base, and it says that the oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver driver could not be loaded.  What do I need to connect to an oracle database?
[03:23] <felipe_Brz> is it possible that i can't log into my amazon 64-bit box because it is 64 bit? i have another (32-bit) with the exact same configurations and I do get to log in
[03:24] <felipe_Brz> * using private/public keys on ssh
[03:26] <awaludin> hello
[03:27] <cfhowlett> awaludin: greetings
[03:32] <ert> could you help me? i'm attempting to set up a dual boot for my mac, but i can't partition my hard drive.  people have told me to repair it, but it never works. for obvious reasons, i can't repair it while booted to it, and booting to an ubuntu live dvd won't fix it
[03:33] <cfhowlett> ert: why can't the HDD partition?
[03:33] <ert> no clue
[03:34] <cfhowlett> ert: error msgs?
[03:35] <ert> partition failed with the error: Couldn't modify the partition map because file system verification failed
[03:35] <ert> that was when i tried it using the mac disk utility
[03:36] <cfhowlett> ert: ...and?
[03:36] <ert> it didn't work?
[03:37] <cfhowlett> ert: ok.  Well, if the mac partitioner fails I would say you have a fundamental hardware issue and should perhaps consider replacement.
[03:38] <ert> really? i doubt it. i've had it for less than a year.
[03:38] <cfhowlett> ert: assume you're following the methods described on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[03:40] <cfhowlett> ert: also, you bought used?  Cuz certain things will act screwy, e.g. my previously ihackintosh wouldn't display the windows partition when upgrading 10.04 to 12.04.  Finally found that even though I had formatted the drive, the previous osx/gpt partition table rendered win7 invisible.
[03:40] <ert> bought new
[03:45] <cfhowlett> ert: hmm.  suggest you consult ubuntu forums / mac users  http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=328
[03:46] <ert> alright. thanks
[03:51] <diamonds> startup disk creator will only erase my disk :/
[03:52] <diamonds> http://pastie.org/pastes/4392714/text
[03:52] <cfhowlett> diamonds: by design - yes
[03:53] <diamonds> step 1: "Insert a USB stick with at least 2GB of free space."
[03:53] <diamonds> cfhowlett: if that's true it's not reflected here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[03:54] <diamonds> Alright well is there another option?
[03:54] <diamonds> because that won't do
[03:54] <blueguy19> hello there
[03:55] <cfhowlett> diamonds: hey are you trying to install to the USB drive as a separate HDD or use the USB drive as a startup disk?
[03:55] <cfhowlett> blueguy19: greetings
[03:56] <diamonds> cfhowlett: not sure what you mean by that
[03:56] <diamonds> I intend to use as live disc for gparting, then to install from it
[03:57] <diamonds> anyway are these instructions just wrong?
[03:57] <diamonds> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[03:57] <cfhowlett> diamonds: add the USB drive as an additional HDD and install ubuntu there OR use the USB drive as a startup disk medium instead like a cdrom or a USB
[03:57] <diamonds> I have the same freespace (incidentally) as they do in the example
[03:57] <cfhowlett> diamonds i.e. liveboot from the USB drive
[03:57] <diamonds> yes
[03:57] <diamonds> that's what I want
[03:57] <blueguy19> cfhowlett: hi there
[03:58] <cfhowlett> diamonds: ok so you want to use the USB drive as a liveboot startup disk.  Note: ubuntu startup disk creator *WILL* wipe that drive before installing ubuntu.
[03:59] <diamonds> cfhowlett: so the tutorial is inaccurate :(
[03:59] <diamonds> this one : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[03:59] <diamonds> is there any other way?
[03:59] <diamonds> I'm downloading the DVD version now
[04:00] <diamonds> I don't wish to delete the contents of my thumb drive
[04:00] <cfhowlett> diamonds: so burn a DVD, CDROM or USB stick
[04:01] <diamonds> what do you mean burn a usb stick?
[04:01] <cfhowlett> diamonds startup disk creator to a 2 gigabyte usb memory stick
[04:01] <joustin> diamonds, if you are going to boot off of any media it needs to be clean, additional files could cause issues
[04:02] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu>blueguy19
[04:02] <diamonds> joustin: it's funny cuz I didn't do this before
[04:03] <diamonds> i think I was booting mint (I just deleted the files from this usb drive :p)
[04:03] <joustin>   /shrug
[04:03] <theadmin> diamonds: Burn a USB stick as in "sudo dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdz"
[04:04] <theadmin> diamonds: But, that *will* wipe /dev/sdz (replace "z" with the appropriate drive letter of your stick)
[04:04] <vokevybez> my external hardrive cannot be written to by gparted or testdisk and when i try to change any permissions it returns this error ¨http://pastebin.com/ijJHfiVw¨ how do i fix this
[04:05] <blueguy19> how to get hdmi out working on ubuntu 12.04
[04:05] <Degorth> can anyone help me with getting chatzilla standalone to run on Ubuntu 12.04?
[04:05] <theadmin> blueguy19: That's not a question you know, it depends on your video card. Install the propertiary drivers for your GPU and you should be good to go :/
[04:05] <cfhowlett> vokevybez: open the file properties for the drive, change settings to read/write.  Probably need to be root though.
[04:06] <blueguy19> theadmin: I have installed NVIDIA drivers
[04:06] <blueguy19> @theadmin but it still didnt work
[04:06] <theadmin> cfhowlett: Eh, are you sure you want to change permissions under /dev? udev should be the only one to touch that
[04:06] <theadmin> blueguy19: Well, I think you can use the nvidia settings tool to configure it now
[04:06] <Lollerblader> hey
[04:06] <blueguy19> @theadmin is there something I need to set
[04:06] <vokevybez> cfhowlett: when i try to it change it return this error ¨http://pastebin.com/ijJHfiVw¨
[04:06] <Lollerblader> my ubuntu doesnt work, what do?
[04:07] <blueguy19> @theadmin let me try doing that
[04:07] <theadmin> Lollerblader: Details
[04:07] <cfhowlett> theadmin: plz correct me if I misspoke
[04:07] <cfhowlett> vokevybez: note theadmin's feedback
[04:07] <Lollerblader> holdon
[04:07] <theadmin> cfhowlett: Well, I have no idea what you actually meant, but chmodding/chowning anything under /dev will actually give no result (even as root), because the stuff there is *not* a regular file/folder
[04:07] <Lollerblader> calling geeksquad
[04:08] <Odra> Hello
[04:08] <theadmin> cfhowlett: If you meant something along the lines of "mount -o defaults,rw /dev/sdz1 /mnt" then yeah, I guess that's the fix
[04:08] <Odra> How do I upgrade ubuntu?
[04:08] <cfhowlett> theadmin: thanks.
[04:08] <cfhowlett> Odra: what version are you currently running
[04:08] <Odra> Lucid
[04:09] <theadmin> Odra: Do you want to change the release to 12.04, or simply upgrade your software packages?
[04:09] <vokevybez> theadmin: so i need to mount the device manually then?
[04:09] <theadmin> vokevybez: *might* need to. I have no idea, automount fails on some devices. See also !fstab
[04:09] <Odra> I want to upgrade to 12.04, but my update manager only shows 10.10
[04:10] <cfhowlett> Odra: in your update manager, change settings to show LTS only and you should see 12.04
[04:10] <Degorth> can anyone help me run chatzilla standalone on ubuntu 12.04? xulrunner doesn't seem to install and the program doesn't run
[04:10] <cfhowlett> Odra: can't update 10.10 to 12.04 directly.
[04:10] <MonkeyDust> Odra  backup and fresh install may be te most efficient way
[04:11] <Odra> cfhowlett: I changed the settings but it still shows 10.10 as the upgrade option
[04:11] <cfhowlett> Odra: what monkeydust said +1
[04:11] <theadmin> Odra: Open "software-properties-gtk" or "software-properties-kde" as root. Go to "Updates", find the release train setting (can't remember the actual name), set it to "Long-term support releases only". Apply. Run "update-manager -d"
[04:11] <blueguy19> @theadmin how do I setup hdtv view?
[04:11] <blueguy19> @theadmin in the nvidia x configuration?
[04:11] <theadmin> blueguy19: I dunno, I'm an AMD person (unfortunately :/ That's just how it ended up)
[04:12] <theadmin> blueguy19: Also get rid of the "@" in your messages, you're ruining my highlight
[04:12] <blueguy19> ohk
[04:12] <blueguy19> theadmin - I removed @
[04:12] <theadmin> blueguy19: Appears to work now, thanks.
[04:12] <Odra> theadmin: It worked :O
[04:12] <theadmin> blueguy19: Anyway, what happens when you plug the HDMI cable in?
[04:13] <Odra> Thanks. bbl upgrading
[04:13] <vokevybez> theadmin:am supposed to add my device and resective mount points?
[04:13] <theadmin> vokevybez: Possibly so -- depends on whether automount works for the device or not. If not, add it to fstab with the desired mount options
[04:15] <vokevybez> theadmin: the device is supposed to auto-mount but these days i have to click it to mount it.
[04:15] <theadmin> vokevybez: Well, I think that's about as good
[04:15] <theadmin> Even better since sometimes automount is not what you want
[04:16] <vokevybez> theadmin:ok will add device to fstab
[04:16] <Boogeyman> dumb question, how do you open a terminal through cli?
[04:16] <wingnut2626> hi all i have ubuntu host with a windows xp guest.  What are the NAT settings to use so that i can use my wlan0 connection on the xp guest
[04:16] <blueguy19> theadmin: not able to setup x server display settings
[04:17] <theadmin> vokevybez: Okay, add it like this: /dev/sdz1 /mnt ext4 defaults,rw 0 0 # That's the basic idea. "defaults,rw" is the mount option field here. Everything else should be self-explanatory.
[04:17] <theadmin> Boogeyman: Depends on what terminal you're using. In KDE, it's normally "konsole", in regular Ubuntu, "gnome-terminal". In Xubuntu, "xfce4-terminal" and finally in Lubuntu, "lxterm".
[04:17] <cfhowlett> Boogeyman: we have to go deeper to open a terminal IN a terminal ...
[04:18] <Boogeyman> gnome terminal, thats it, i'm making a shortcut for an unused button on my mouse
[04:19] <Boogeyman> thanks
[04:22] <Degorth> I need help getting Chatzilla standalone (xulrunner) to run on Ubuntu 12.04,
[04:23] <Degorth> I can't get xulrunner to install and run it
[04:23] <blueguy19> theadmin: I was able to clone notebook screen on hdtv. but the problem is the movie that I'm playing - the sound comes from notebook as well as hdtv
[04:24] <blueguy19> theadmin and when I mute the sound on notebook
[04:24] <blueguy19> theadmin: it mutes hdtv as well
[04:24] <theadmin> blueguy19: Sorry, I have to be going now. Hope you figure it out. Check the Ubuntu Forums and askubuntu.com as well.
[04:24] <blueguy19> theadmin - thanks
[04:25] <Linux_Guy> hdmi connection?
[04:40] <jd2> how can i have a java -jar file that has a gui interface run in the background and remain hidden?
[04:40] <jd2> is that even possible?
[04:50] <TiZ> Hi. When I play WebM videos through gstreamer-based video players, the video is discolored to a blueish tint. Likewise, when I play certain youtube videos, the same discoloration occurs. How do I fix this?
[04:50] <Linux_Guy> on the fleshtone they are smurfed?