[00:54] <Shirakawasuna> Hi all! I hope this isn't an inappropriate question to ask here, but I wanted to know if the software center has received significant speed improvements for the 12.10 release. It's a bit too slow for me, even with an i7 and 8Gb of ram, so I always use apt-get, but I used to love using it before the switch to html5
[00:56] <micahg> Shirakawasuna: if something is prohibitively slow, please file bugs
[00:58] <Shirakawasuna> It takes 15 seconds to even start
[00:58] <Shirakawasuna> My understanding is that this is normal, for 12.04, as I've used it on several different computers.
[00:58] <Shirakawasuna> Just wanted to know if anyone was aware of specific improvements/resolved bug reports on the matter
[01:02] <micahg> that might be the current status, but I wouldn't call taking 15 seconds to start normal
[01:03] <micahg> took about 10 seconds for me on a i7 w/a 7200rpm drive on precise, not sure about quantal
[01:05] <micahg> Bug #945524
[01:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 945524 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Applications Center starting too long" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/945524
[01:05] <ajmitch> as well as multiple apt-xapian-index bugs
[01:05] <micahg> aye, that too
[01:06] <ajmitch> the latter is probably what kills my system more
[01:06] <ajmitch> as a data point:
[01:06] <ajmitch> 2012-08-06 13:06:11,256 - softwarecenter.performance - DEBUG - ** main window fully ready after: 25.7654662132 seconds
[01:06] <ajmitch> just started it on my laptop with an SSD, with 12.04
[01:09]  * ajmitch does have an unusually large number of things in /etc/apt/sources.list, though :)
[05:07] <Shirakawasuna> micahg: thanks for the response earlier. I apologize for going afk without acknowledging it! That bug report looks very informative.
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[08:02] <X-tonic> Hi, does ubuntu, ubuntu+1 support BTRFS yet?
[08:06] <Streamstormer> X-tonic, yes of course
[08:07] <Streamstormer> X-tonic, but the standard is ext4
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[10:44] <simplew> isnt possible to have the sidebar tree in nautilus anymore???
[10:58] <graingert_ufo> simplew: you can use the nautilus from MATE
[10:59] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
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[14:02] <nlsthzn> Hi all. Running the latest daily build of Lubuntu 12.10 in VBox.  Just installed the Guest Addtions and Scale Mode works but when I try Full Screen it stays small (1024x768) and doesn't fill the screen... Any ideas?
[14:03] <edgy> Hi, I got kernel panic when I modified GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="vga=normal memmap=0x10000\$0x354d80000 memmap=0x100000\$0x1ca170000 quiet splash"
[14:03] <edgy> any hint what's wrong?
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[18:06] <shane_> can someone please tell me what are the required software sources for ubuntu 12.10, I think I must have deleted one two many when I reas removing some old ppa's where can I get a list please
[18:07] <shane_> my updates have stopped working
[18:11] <trism> shane_: default source.list from an install I just completed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1132951/
[18:11] <shane_> ok thanks I will take a look
[18:12] <trism> shane_: though you really only need main (but restricted universe and multiverse are nice to have)
[18:12] <shane_> thanks for your help trism, I was googling everywhere but it never come up with your link cheers
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[19:07] <ls612> I was using 12.04, but the support folks on that IRC said that my hardware was only supported in 12.10
[19:07] <ls612> Where do I go to get 12.10?
[19:08] <trism> ls612: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha3
[19:10] <ls612> trism: that would be a problem, as my issue with 12.04 is that I had no internet.
[19:10] <ls612> or cooling fan for that matter, but that's another story.
[19:11] <trism> ls612: there are links to downloading the cd there (and in the topic)
[19:12] <ls612> Oh, duh, I missed that what with it being clearly labeled. sorry.
[19:14] <ls612> trism: one more question, I have an intel i7 Ivy bridge proc. Should I get the PC (Intel x86) desktop CD or the 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD?
[19:21] <trism> ls612: depends on if you want to go 32 bit or 64 bit, I always go 64 bit myself now without many issues
[19:22] <trism> ls612: if you have 4gb+ ram you should probably go with the amd64 iso
[19:22] <ls612> Cool 64 bit it is. (I have 8 GB of RAM)
[19:22] <ls612> Thanks for your help.
[19:56] <Hanmac> some gnome dev say that my udev may be broken ... how can i check this?
[20:10] <edgy> Hi, I installed xubuntu-desktop and now the boot screen changed, I want my kubuntu-desktop screens back, how?
[20:11] <edgy> I tried sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[20:11] <edgy> and it's already set to: * 0            /lib/plymouth/themes/kubuntu-logo/kubuntu-logo.plymouth   150       auto mode
[20:12] <MrChrisDruif> edgy; if this is for version 12.04 or lower, please refer to #ubuntu for support
[20:12] <edgy> MrChrisDruif: this is quantal
[20:13] <trism> edgy: you would need to update the initramfs too, so it is usually easier to just reinstall the plymouth-theme-distro-logo package
[20:13] <edgy> trism: I did but still nothing changed
[20:13] <edgy> trism: I mean I did the initramfs but I haven't reinstalled that, let me try
[20:15] <edgy> trism: I now did sudo apt-get --reinstall install plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo plymouth-theme-kubuntu-text
[20:15] <edgy> trism: that's it?
[20:17] <edgy> I will reboot now and see
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[20:21] <edgy> trism: still same xubuntu screen
[20:21] <Hanmac> for some reason S.M.A.R.T. from udev is not detected anymore :( ... can someone helps me?
[20:22] <trism> edgy: yeah seems that the xubuntu ones have higher priority so that won't work, hmm
[20:22] <edgy> trism: how did you figure out it has higher priority?
[20:23] <Hanmac> and it seems that the xserver does play ugly games with me :'(
[20:23] <lamalex> hello, i'm trying to upgrade to quantal- but none of my normal methods are working! i'm doing do-release-upgrade -d and update-manager -d but neither one sees a new development releas
[20:23] <lamalex> is there  a trick im missng?
[20:25] <edgy> lamalex: isn't it better to make a fresh install?
[20:25] <trism> edgy: you can see the priority in the update-alternatives list, you may have to set default.plymouth and text.plymouth to your choices manually and then run update-initramfs
[20:25] <trism> edgy: or perhaps just uninstall the ones you don't want
[20:25] <lamalex> edgy, shouldnt be
[20:26] <edgy> trism: but in my case the first entry which is 0 is kubuntu like:  * 0            /lib/plymouth/themes/kubuntu-logo/kubuntu-logo.plymouth   150       auto mode
[20:27] <edgy> lamalex: trism I think the new version won't be available from that command till the developers think it's somehow usable
[20:28] <edgy> trism: but fresh install is always better because you avoid old configuration files and packages that are obseleted
[20:28] <trism> lamalex: you need to select all available upgrades in software-properties-gtk on the updates tab, since lts defaults upgrading lts to lts
[20:30] <Hanmac> soo ... can someone help me with my udev problem?
[20:31] <edgy> Hanmac: what's the command that shows SMART is not detected?
[20:31] <chris|> lamalex, vim /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and change Prompt to normal, then run update-manager -d
[20:31] <Hanmac> edgy: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=681311 << there is the bug history
[20:31] <ubottu> Gnome bug 681311 in general "can not found SMART, but its available" [Normal,Resolved: notgnome]
[20:32] <lamalex> chris|, ah thank you
[20:32] <edgy> chris|: isn't that a default?
[20:32] <chris|> lamalex, for the future, update-manager uses http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/ to check for new upgrade targets
[20:32] <chris|> edgy, not on lts
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> Hello, what is the daily zsync link I get a failed URL with this zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/quantal-desktop-i386.iso.zsync
[20:35] <edgy> Hanmac: if you run smartctl manually does it work?
[20:37] <Hanmac> edgy ... yeah you could see the output that i added as attachment ...
[20:37] <Hanmac> i wonder why it does not work with gnome-disks ...
[20:38] <edgy> Hanmac: in gnome-disks you get what?
[20:38] <Hanmac> "SMART is not enabled" :(
[20:39] <edgy> Hanmac: you get that when  you click "view smart data?
[20:40] <Hanmac> i cant normaly because its greyed out ...
[20:40] <Hanmac> its seems to work after i do this 'echo change > /sys/block/sda/uevent' manualy
[20:40] <trism> wilee-nilee: looks like it failed to build today (that is the correct link)
[20:40] <edgy> Hanmac: on the bug they it's a distro thing, but in my case it works well
[20:41] <edgy> Hanmac: is this  a fresh installation?
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> trism, thanks I was wondering.
[20:42] <Hanmac> edgy no its an updated one ... (from oniric -> precise -> quantal)
[20:42] <edgy> Hanmac: I guess that could be the problem, can you try a liveCD or a fresh installation?
[20:43] <edgy> Hanmac: if that worked, and you are still curious, you can do a diff for the relavent dirs to see the cause but I doubt it's useful
[20:44] <Hanmac> hm ... i can test live cd later ... but a fresh installation, will do very later (October)
[20:44] <Hanmac> edgy can i ask you about xserver problems?
[20:44] <edgy> Hanmac: i am not an expert but feel free to ask
[20:46] <Hanmac> i dont know why but sometimes i get an white sceen, (that does not go away) and even the tty are white ... an idea what i can do? (i use ati card with mesa)
[20:47] <Hanmac> try to reboot your system when you see nothing :P
[20:48] <edgy> Hanmac: you installed the proprietary drivers?
[20:48] <edgy> Hanmac: try to use nomodeset on the kernel options or disable the framebuffer with vga=normal e.g
[20:49] <edgy> Hanmac: you can also check the X log files for any errors
[20:49] <edgy> Hanmac: I have to go now, good luck
[20:49] <Hanmac> no i use mesa ... fglrx is gone after last upgrade
[20:49] <edgy> Hanmac: did you check the logs?
[20:50] <edgy> Hanmac: still try the options I mentioned
[20:50] <edgy> bye
[23:27] <litropy> So, I'm using my laptop as a wireless repeater. It's receiving my network via wifi, and then I have it wired to another router (this router doesn't bridge). I find that during times of heavy data transfer, my laptop stops sending/receiving packets. It's still connected - iwconfig confirms that. What I have to do in order to resolve the issue is click the wireless icon in the menubar, then click the network I'm connected to. This te
[23:27] <litropy> lls network-manager to disconnect then reconnect, and then I start sending packets again. I'm trying to write a script to do this automatically. So, I need to know what command(s) network-manager is running when I do the "click the network again" dance.
[23:28] <litropy> Yes, I could rig up a better solution via wires, but I'm short of cash right now.
[23:30] <litropy> Furthermore, I understand this issue might be because "There is no any anti-flood protection enabled by default on ubuntu." (link at end), and I'm wondering if there are anti-flood solutions I can delve into. http://superuser.com/questions/320048/ubuntu-network-stop-working-after-heavy-load-of-packets-received