[00:45] <desrt> jhansonxi: it's not possible to do keyfile-based settings per-user
[01:15] <jhansonxi> desrt: Annoying.  It was possible with gconf and gconf-tool.
[01:21] <smspillaz> desrt: of course :)
[01:22] <smspillaz> desrt: I guess the larger issue here is that gobject is an API that favors stealing :)
[02:28] <desrt> jhansonxi: if you want to talk about gconf-tool and keyfiles, the dconf commandline tool also supports loading from keyfiles
[02:28] <desrt> jhansonxi: i was under the impression that you were looking for a just-drop-a-file solution (where the file in question is not a shellscript named ".profile")
[02:35] <jhansonxi> desrt: I was just looking for an existing implementation.  I'll examine dconf.  Would be helpful if dconf had a man page (bug #950154).
[02:35] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 950154 in d-conf "dconf-tools package provides no help, no manpage, no icon for dconf-editor menu item" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950154
[02:35] <desrt> ubot2: matthias clasen wrote a manpage recently and i plan on merging it this evening
[02:35] <ubot2> desrt: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[02:35] <desrt> erm.  jhansonxi, i mean :)
[06:49] <didrocks> good morning
[07:04] <jasoncwarner_> morning didrocks
[07:05] <didrocks> hey jasoncwarner_
[07:05] <jasoncwarner_> hey didrocks & popey...are we going to get a unity release today?
[07:05] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: not today, but they are doing it this week (freeze today)
[07:06] <didrocks> apparently, PS already planned for feature freeze exception (a lot)
[07:06] <didrocks> I asked popey to come with a wiki page about them
[07:06] <didrocks> planned release date
[07:06] <didrocks> risk
[07:06] <didrocks> and so on
[07:06] <didrocks> didn't get the answers on that yet
[07:07] <didrocks> I warned PS once again that FFE are *exceptions* and they are not granted to get one
[07:15] <jasoncwarner_> didrocks: sorry, lost my connection there for a second
[07:15] <jasoncwarner_> didrocks: thanks...let me know when you get the wiki page.
[07:16] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: I'll keep you posted
[07:17] <didrocks> grrr, why my external monitor isn't recognized at its native resolution
[07:17] <didrocks> let me reboot
[07:21] <didrocks> I think I'll need a xorg guy
[07:26] <didrocks> ah finally got it :)
[08:10] <Laney> morning
[08:10] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:11] <Laney> hey didrocks, how are you?
[08:15] <didrocks> Laney: I'm fine, thanks, yourself?
[08:16] <seb128> hey desktopers
[08:16] <seb128> hey Laney, didrocks
[08:16] <Laney> yeah great thanks - was away for most of last week doing some volunteering, which involved sleeping in a hammock
[08:16] <Laney> the bed was good last night ;-)
[08:17] <jasoncwarner_> hey Laney, hey seb128 happy monday!
[08:17] <seb128> jasoncwarner_, hey, happy monday evening! ;-)
[08:17] <jasoncwarner_> sure is!
[08:17] <seb128> Laney, hehe, I can imagine ... did you have good weather?
[08:18] <Laney> those crazy future people!
[08:18] <Laney> seb128: mixed, but mostly good yeah
[08:18] <didrocks> hey seb128
[08:18] <Laney> we were taking tents down, so the rain was annoying there
[08:19] <Laney> https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/539108_10151971665345643_396612420_n.jpg for example :-)
[08:20] <chrisccoulson> good morning everyone
[08:20] <didrocks> hey chrisccoulson!
[08:20] <chrisccoulson> hi didrocks, how are you?
[08:22] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: I'm fine, thanks, what about yourself? did you manage to get any sleep?
[08:23] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, i had a fairly busy weekend. but jo is going to visit her parents today with ruby and maisie, and staying overnight. which means - sleep!! :-)
[08:24] <didrocks> heh, good! try to enjoy it as much as possible :)
[08:41] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey, how are you?
[08:42] <chrisccoulson> seb128, yeah, good thanks. how are you?
[08:42] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[08:52] <Laney> oh cool, we got new dbus!
[08:53] <mlankhorst> hahaahha
[08:53] <mlankhorst> If you are reading this book and flipping out at every third sentence because you feel I'm insulting your intelligence, then I have three points of advice for you:
[08:53] <mlankhorst>     Stop reading my book. I didn't write it for you. I wrote it for people who don't already know everything.
[08:53] <mlankhorst>     Empty before you fill. You will have a hard time learning from someone with more knowledge if you already know everything.
[08:53] <mlankhorst>     Go learn Lisp. I hear people who know everything really like Lisp.
[08:53] <mlankhorst> :D
[09:17] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: popey is out this week, so I guess we'll have to wait one additional week to get the list of features that are yet to come
[13:06] <cyphermox> morning
[13:06] <kenvandine> good morning cyphermox
[13:06] <cyphermox> hey kenvandine, how are you?
[13:06] <kenvandine> good
[13:06] <kenvandine> and you?
[13:08] <seiflotfy> what is robs name?
[13:08] <cyphermox> not bad
[13:08] <seiflotfy> rob ancell
[13:09] <larsu> seiflotfy, robert_ancell, but I think he's on vacation this week
[13:10] <seiflotfy> hi larsu
[13:10] <larsu> hi :)
[13:16] <bcurtiswx> good morning
[13:20] <seb128> seiflotfy, what larsu said, he's robert_ancell and he's off this week
[13:20] <seb128> bcurtiswx, hey
[13:20] <bcurtiswx> hi seb128
[13:20] <seiflotfy> ok where is thumper
[13:20] <bcurtiswx> how was GUADEC
[13:20] <seb128> very good
[13:20] <kenvandine> seiflotfy, probably sleeping
[13:20] <seb128> seiflotfy, sleeping I guess, it's past midnight in NZ
[13:21] <seb128> kenvandine, hey
[13:21] <kenvandine> hey seb128
[13:21] <seb128> kenvandine, how are you?
[13:21] <kenvandine> seb128, i have 2 more packages coming your way!
[13:21] <kenvandine> great
[13:21] <kenvandine> and you?
[13:21] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[13:21] <bcurtiswx> hey kenvandine, i saw a guy at friendly's yesterday that looks a lot like you. Small world dude..
[13:21] <kenvandine> hehe
[13:22] <kenvandine> i have been told that quite a few times...
[13:22] <kenvandine> :-D
[13:22] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine: the first human cloning success story.
[13:25] <kenvandine> bcurtiswx, and what a fine specimen for the first success
[13:26] <bcurtiswx> don't get too ahead of yourself now... ;)
[15:23] <seb128> mterry, hey
[15:23] <mterry> seb128, hi
[15:24] <seb128> didrocks, mterry, cyphermox: do you have experience making "make check" run under xfvb,dbus-launch?
[15:24] <seb128> do you have anything better than "making a wrapper script and calling that"?
[15:24] <cyphermox> seb128: in NM I run it in dbus-test-runner IIRC
[15:24] <seb128> not sure why "xvfb-run make check" doesn't work
[15:25] <mterry> seb128, yeah that usually works fine for me
[15:25] <mterry> seb128, what kind of errors?
[15:25] <cyphermox> seb128: in NM; I use override_dh_auto_test:\n\tdbus-test-runner -t dh_auto_test
[15:26] <didrocks> seb128: dbus-test-runner is wrapping this up for you normally
[15:26] <seb128> mterry, cyphermox: it still complains it can't find X11, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1132510/
[15:26] <cyphermox> ah yes
[15:27] <mterry> seb128, with xvfb-run?  Something must be stripping the env
[15:27] <seb128> mterry, I did
[15:27] <seb128> override_dh_auto_test:
[15:28] <seb128>     xfvb-run make test
[15:28] <seb128>  
[15:28] <seb128> but maybe that's not a good way to do it
[15:28] <cyphermox> that should be working fine though
[15:28] <didrocks> indeed, this should work
[15:28] <seb128> that's libsecret from quantal
[15:29] <cyphermox> seb128: try dbus-test-runner -t make -p check in override_dh_auto_test :) sorry for being so insistent, but I know this works; though it adds a build-dep.
[15:32] <kenvandine> that's handy
[15:34] <seb128> cyphermox, hum, test fails and no useful output
[15:35] <cyphermox> wow
[15:35] <cyphermox> seb128: you mean the test or running the test?
[15:36] <seb128> task-0:   /value/to-password:                                                  FAIL
[15:36] <seb128> task-0: GTester: last random seed: R02S322e69ce258b9d35eb7bd3fb9aa01bd2
[15:36] <seb128> but it seems to eat stdout or stderr
[15:36] <seb128> so I don't know what the issue
[15:37] <seb128> oh, that was a real bug, with that one fixed I get
[15:37] <seb128> dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[15:37] <seb128> ERROR:test-prompt.c:47:setup: assertion failed (error == NULL): Error sending credentials: Error sending message: Operation not permitted (g-io-error-quark, 14)
[15:37] <seb128> task-0:   /prompt/run:                                                         FAIL
[15:42] <cyphermox> weird. i didn't expect there would be any kind of security policy there, unless it's set after by make check somehow
[15:50] <seb128> dunno, running it manually works
[15:54] <cyphermox> seb128: does it use the system or session bus?
[15:54] <seb128> cyphermox, session
[15:55] <seb128> libsecret/tests/mock/service.py", line 480, in __init__
[15:55] <seb128>     bus = dbus.SessionBus()
[15:55] <cyphermox> no idea.. so far that has been a great way to test things that required dbus
[15:55] <cyphermox> I'm using it in the eds autopkgtest as well
[15:55] <cyphermox> speaking of EDS... another soname change :)
[15:56] <cyphermox> I'm updating eds to 3.5.5 so that evolution-ews can be taken off the nbs list as well
[19:53] <kenvandine> mterry, new MIR whenever you have a chance to look, bug 1033614
[19:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1033614 in libunity-webapps "[MIR] libunity-webapps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033614
[19:53] <kenvandine> tests run and all :)
[19:53] <mterry> kenvandine, yay  :)
[19:53] <kenvandine> now i need to go back and fix more of the online-accounts ones :)
[19:57] <seb128> ok, I give up on running tests during the build
[19:57] <seb128> that's harder than it should be
[19:57] <seb128> I will wait for pitti to be back from holidays
[19:59] <kenvandine> seb128, i know!
[20:00] <kenvandine> signond is going to suck
[20:00] <kenvandine> which is why i wanted to wait for mardy to get back and rewrite some of the test stuff
[20:29] <kenvandine> mterry, libaccounts-qt tests enabled
[20:29] <mterry> ok
[20:30] <seb128> *whining*
[20:30] <seb128> why other manage to enable their tests :p
[20:30] <kenvandine> seb128, so what is the latest failure you're getting?
[20:32] <seb128> kenvandine, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1133193/
[20:32] <seb128> dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply
[20:32] <seb128> "ERROR:test-prompt.c:47:setup: assertion failed (error == NULL): Error sending credentials: Error sending message: Operation not permitted"
[20:33] <kenvandine> seb128, i haven't seen that before
[20:35] <seb128> it's weird, the call that fails is "bus = dbus.SessionBus()"
[20:38] <seb128> it happens when running make check under fakeroot