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JohnHere it goes. Please excuse me if I offend you. It is not my intent.04:20
JohnFor a long time kernel devs have been ignoring users.04:21
JohnI believe they simply don't care. If for a year there04:21
Johnhas been an OPEN SOURCE drivers for the LARGEST laptop04:21
Johnmanufacturer with millions of computers sold with this04:21
Johnparticular hardware and at least 20 versions of kernel04:21
Johnsince, where does that leave us?04:21
JohnHere it goes:04:21
JohnHere are the OS drivers that are available:04:21
Johnhttp://www.ralinktech.com/en/04_support/support.php?sn=50104:21
JohnThe drivers I mean are:04:21
JohnRT539x PCIe 09/26/2011 2.5.0.304:21
JohnOur lspci -k:04:21
JohnNetwork controller: Ralink corp. RT5390 [802.11 b/g/n 1T1R G-band PCI Express Single Chip]04:21
JohnKernel driver in use: rt2800pci04:21
JohnKernel modules: rt2800pci04:21
JohnThese ARE NOT GOOD. They work, but are designed for other Ralink hardware.04:21
JohnThey have bugs.04:21
JohnFor the above module it should be the OS drivers from the above website.04:21
JohnThey are OPEN SOURCE and AVAILABLE!04:21
JohnThe RT5390 PCI is in shit loads of HPs laptops. Shit loads of!04:21
JohnAnd the hardware is great! The drivers for Windows are awesome!04:21
ohsixuh, no04:21
JohnAnd the drivers for Linux have been available for a long long time!04:21
JohnAnd yet WE ARE IGNORED for shit load of kernel versions, shit loads04:21
Johnof versions! WTF?!04:21
JohnPS. You have to probably blacklist some other shitty drivers like:04:21
Johngksudo leafpad /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf04:21
John# Blacklist conflicting RaLink driver modules:04:21
Johnblacklist rt2800pci04:21
Johnblacklist rt2800lib04:21
Johnblacklist rt2x00usb04:21
Johnblacklist rt2x00pci04:21
Johnblacklist rt2x00lib04:21
Johnblacklist rt2860sta04:21
Johnoh, no?04:22
ohsixthis isn't even the right place for that, if there was a place to flood a screed04:22
ohsixdo you think the linux wireless people don't know of, or have a real reason to not include those drivers?04:22
Johnoh yeah not the place, just another FU user! You are nice as those kernel devs who care more about google and android than users!04:22
ohsixyou don't know what you are talking about04:23
ohsixif you presume to put yourself in the place of a person who can make that decision, decide to use the driver yourself and forget about the actual people who are04:23
Johnthere has been at least 20 versions and they ignored us. I don't simply understand why android is more important than us.04:24
JohnThey always cry that there are no drivers, but there are and even Open Source. In a moth there will be a YEAR!04:25
ohsixif you post that every time, i'm not surprised you are ignored; you are not ignored04:26
ohsixyou aren't even asking the right people, in this case04:26
John?04:26
ohsixfurther, you assume the people who decide these things have no other reason to not do it, besides ignoring you04:26
JohnI only care about resaults. The resault is NO DRIVER.04:27
ohsixif you only care about results then you can't factually say that you have been ignored, as you have made no obvious attempt at actually meeting your goals04:27
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ppisatimoin Stefan :)07:48
smbppisati, Morning Paolo. Right back within one second. Not bad. :)07:50
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oumpahello, on my samsung laptop, xubuntu 12.04 the screen-brightnes-control with fn keys was working with kernel 3.2.0-23 and after update to 3.2.0-27 there is only low light and bright, nothing in-between and the notification (with the sun) doesnt appear anymore10:24
oumpawhat can i do?10:24
oumpato fix this?10:24
oumpathe grub entries are the same, just the kernel changed, semms to be a bug of 3.2.0-2710:29
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apwoumpa, if you were still here i would suggest fileing a bug and testing the kernels in between from launchpad to see which broke it12:41
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jeremiahI'd love to have the AF_BUS patch added to the kernel for the i.MX53 QSB. 15:51
jeremiahShould I submit that to Linaro? Or is there somewhere in Ubuntu I should ask?15:51
ogra_linaro ... 15:52
jeremiahOkay, thanks15:52
ogra_since the kernel package for mx5 is maintained by them15:52
ogra_ogasawara, thx for the update !16:18
ogasawaraogra_: np 16:19
rtgkees, finally! http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commitdiff;h=800179c9b8a1e796e441674776d11cd4c05d61d716:45
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rtgtyhicks, re 3.6-rc1 'The write-through cache changes are being reverted due to bugs...' - should we be backporting those patches ?17:07
tyhicksrtg: Probably so17:10
tyhicksrtg: I didn't feel comfortable marking them for the stable kernel just yet because I haven't had a chance to look at the backport17:10
rtgtyhicks, ack17:10
tyhicksrtg: I was going to speak with cking about it because he is mostly familiar with the bugs caused by the reverted code17:11
rtgtyhicks, I think he's on vacation for a couple of weeks17:11
tyhicks(he wrote a test case for one of them)17:11
tyhicksoh17:11
rtgtyhicks, prolly for the empty files case ?17:12
tyhicksrtg: Nope. The biggest problem is that ENOSPC can't be detected at the correct time to return from write().17:13
rtgah17:13
tyhicksrtg: So userspace thinks everything is fine and may keep writing but eCryptfs can't detect a full lower filesystem until the page writeback is performed.17:14
rtgtyhicks, wouldn't an unlayered FS have the same problem ?17:15
tyhicksrtg: No, because they are able to do internal tracking of available space17:15
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rtgogasawara, pushed quantal master-next to fix 'II: Checking modules for generic...19:36
rtg   reading new modules...read 3474 modules.19:36
rtg   reading old modules...19:36
rtg      MISS: aufs19:36
rtg      read 3475 modules : new(0)  missing(1)19:36
rtgEE: Missing modules (start begging for mercy)19:36
rtgma'19:36
ogasawarartg: ah, thanks19:36
rtgogasawara, am working through recent ecryptfs updates to see what might be SRU worthy.19:37
ogasawarartg: ack19:37
tyhicksrtg: Sorry, I'm now seeing that I forgot to set the "Cc: stable@..." tag on any of the patches in my last pull request19:40
tyhicksrtg: Let me get you a list of what I think is SRU-worthy19:40
rtgtyhicks, that would be great, thanks.19:40
tyhicks821f749 eCryptfs: Revert to a writethrough cache model19:40
tyhickse3ccaa9 eCryptfs: Initialize empty lower files when opening them19:40
tyhicks8bc2d3c eCryptfs: Unlink lower inode when ecryptfs_create() fails19:41
tyhicks069ddcd eCryptfs: Copy up POSIX ACL and read-only flags from lower mount19:41
tyhicksrtg: ^ I see that you've already got the ball rolling on that last one19:41
rtgtyhicks, yep, it looked like a good one19:41
tyhicksrtg: The empty lower files fixes should solve one of the most nagging usability problems19:42
rtgtyhicks, I'm also looking at 2.6.32.y to see if it would benefit from a backport of 069ddcd. All the other kernel versions are a clean cherry-pick19:43
rtgtyhicks, agreed about lower files fixes...19:43
tyhicksrtg: re 2.6.32.y> I would say so19:49
rtgtyhicks, k, I'll look into it19:49
tyhicksrtg: I see the if "(... !IS_POSIXACL(inode)) { mode &= ~current_umask(); }" pattern several places in fs/namei.c19:50
hertontyhicks, I saw we had on precise/oneiric commit 4a26620 "eCryptfs: Improve statfs reporting" and forwarded to stable. It seemed worth to have on stables, cking was in favour too. But by Ben's response, not sure he will pick.19:51
tyhicksherton: Yeah, I was about to respond to that. I think Ben is right. :/19:51
tyhicksherton: I hadn't considered his use case19:52
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xmltoki'm running ubuntu 12.04 LTS in a KVM VM on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, if I bidirection iperf my VM from the host node the NIC will lock up requiring if up/down after a few hours22:55
xmltoki've tried to reproduce this with centos5 VM on the same host (its the only other readily available template right now) and I was unable to reproduce the bug. I'm currently testing 10.04 but it will be a few hours until I know if its working22:56
xmltokhas anyone seen this kind of issue before?22:56

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