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jbichamicahg: I saw the bug a minute after I synced :(00:28
micahgjbicha: well, there's cleanup still :), you could've found an AA to take care of the removal of tob00:28
micahgjbicha: it also needs to be moved to multiverse most likely00:30
micahgthe RC bug was for the licensing00:31
jbichauniverse shouldn't depend on multiverse, right?00:32
micahgright00:33
micahgwhich is why tob needs to be removed00:33
micahg(normally would be moved to multiverse, but it's being removed from Debian)00:33
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bdrungjtaylor: about which package are you talking?08:02
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yaffs!ops11:55
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_rubenerrr, ok :)11:58
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LoTso i have a very generic question, perhaps a MOTU would be able to answer...13:41
LoTif i have SRU'd a main package, and uploaded a debdiff, and I've subscribed the sponsors team... should i poke the sponsors mailing list if the SRU should be included in 12.04.1?13:42
LoTsince that release date is fast approaching13:46
geserwe have a sponsors mailing list?13:57
geserLoT: is it important that the SRU gets on the discs?13:58
LoTgeser: not sure if it'd hit the discs, might hit the server discs if any, though, because it fixes a medium and a high importance bug in PHP (one being a segfault, and one being a fix to allow php to report errors to the webserver)14:14
LoTit was suggested by SpamapS, though, that it might be included in 12.04.114:15
LoTgeser: the other problem is that part of the SRU might not be accepted, as its fix is upstream, and awaiting inclusion in Debian (and therefore waiting inclusion in Quantal)14:17
LoTand since this is in Main, i was hesitant to drop in here and poke around.14:17
LoT(and the php-error-reporting bug was a regression in Precise, that wasnt present in Oneiric)14:18
LoTso if only because its a regression, it should be included/fixed (in my opinion)14:18
geserLoT: you could create a patch for quantal too (even if it's gets dropped again with the next php5 merge), so it can get SRUed14:28
LoTgeser: indeed, although its already incorporated into the PHP upstream14:28
geseras Debian is in Freeze it might take some time till a new upstream version gets into Debian which then can get merged/synced14:28
* LoT will have to dig around for the patch and update/refresh the patch in case parts dont apply)14:29
LoTgeser: apparently i am unable to create bzr branches of my own, so i would have to put the patch up, but i cant include it in the bzr code.14:29
LoTi think somewhere my perms got busted.14:29
LoTs/busted/screwed up14:29
geseryou mean pushing to lp:~$user/ubuntu/quantal/php5?14:30
geser(assuming you branched lp:ubuntu/quantal/php5)14:32
LoTgeser: can't even do that14:33
LoTapparently, either (1) my SSH keys are no longer valid14:33
LoTor (2)14:33
LoTbzr is broken on my computer14:33
LoTeven then, the comp with my PGP keys has no internet here, so i cant do anything now14:34
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geseryou don't need pgp/gpg for this (gpg is only needed when uploading a package)14:35
geserre (1) check the ssh key on your computer with that listed on your LP profile page14:35
geserif those match than try to get help in #launchpad for why it isn't working for you14:36
LoTgeser: i plan to, the issue i'm having right now is no internet14:36
LoTthen again, i AM at work :P14:37
LoT(Windows only :/)14:37
LoTi'll try branching again, although if bzr is busted on my system, that'll be a problem14:37
* LoT might have to generate a key specific to his server(s) in order to use those14:37
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heraclidehello15:23
heraclidesorry to disturb, I'm new to ubuntu-motu, I have make some fix to some ubuntu packages swift_1.4.8-0ubuntu2_all.deb, I have created a new package, can someone point me good url to know to to submit it for review please ?15:24
LoTgeser: is there an SRU freeze right now on Precise?15:25
Laneyheraclide: probably this…15:25
Laney!sponsprship | heraclide15:25
LoTif so, when did that go into effect?15:25
Laney!sponsorship | heraclide15:26
ubottuheraclide: You can find out about the package sponsorship process here http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess - For !UDS sponsorship see http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/sponsorship/15:26
Laneythe first link there15:26
heraclidethanks, I'll read it :)15:26
micahgLoT: seeded packages or stuff affecting seeded packages will on be accepted into proposed if it'll bring us closer to the 12.04.1 release, everything else should be unaffected15:35
micahgs/on/only/15:35
LoT.w 515:52
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micahgscottK: I was wrong, not gcc-4.7, same failure in precise, it's just missing an include I think18:34
ScottKOK.18:35
micahgmaybe if I examine the problem I'll get a better answer :), those variables are defined in various places in the file, but not in that function, seems like some refactoring it needed for a proper fix, possible a copy/paste for a temporary fix18:38
micahgscottK: ^^18:39
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ScottKmicahg: If you could have a look at it, that'd be absolutely lovely.18:39
micahgScottK: sorry, can't right now, already doing too many things at once18:42
ScottKSure.  Thanks for looking.18:42
micahgscottK: since it has the same issue in unstable, I'd throw it over the fence as an RC bug and see if that elicits a removal RoM response :)18:51
ScottKmicahg: Good point.  Thanks.18:51
ScottKmicahg: Debian Bug 684078, in case you care to watch the fun.19:25
ubottuDebian bug 684078 in wv2 "calligra: Buffer overflow" [Grave,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/68407819:25
micahgscottK: thanks19:26
LoTdoes the MOTU recommend using pbuilder, or sbuild for building packages locally (for testing)19:28
ScottKYes.19:30
LoTScottK: lemme rephrase19:33
LoTwhich is recommended more, pbuilder, or sbuild?19:34
maxbThey both have their ups and downs19:34
LoTgiven that pbuilder is breaking on my precise system, i'm curious which would be more recommended.19:35
ScottKOdd.  It's working here for me.19:35
ScottKIn 5 1/2 years of Ubuntu/Debian development it's what I've always used.19:35
LoTScottK: apparently my system isnt autoincluding universe and multiverse19:36
maxbNeither is intrinsically superior in all use cases19:36
Laneyusually it's helpful to share the way in which you're seeing breakage19:36
LoTeven though i have a devscripts that says to19:36
LoTLaney: i'd have to retest, i'm still recovering my PGP keys on my main dev system xD19:36
ScottKLoT: Use pbuilder-dist from ubuntu-dev-tools as a wrapper.  It makes it much easier.19:36
* LoT ran into partial partition corruption19:36
LoTScottK: see previous /me19:36
LoTi ran into partial system corruption, recovered my /home, and am now working on restoring the data :/19:37
LoTuntil then, well...19:41
* LoT has been using a build-testing PPA19:41
maxbUsing a PPA is inadvisable; unnecessary waiting, no ability to break in and examine the state of a failed builds files19:59
LoTwell generally all i do is build packages with patches (SRU tests)19:59
LoTso if it fails, then the patch was invalid :P20:00
maxbIf you use pbuilder, I highly recommend the cowbuilder addon - makes build startup considerably faster20:00
LoTrarely, if at all, do I end up writing the patch, its usually from upstream.20:00
QuintasanLoT: You can try sbuild, the downside is that it will download dependencies EVERYTIME (unless I'm configuring it wrong) you build something20:02
LoTQuintasan: pbuilder does the same when you daily-purge the base tgz in the cache20:02
QuintasanLoT: Who does that actually?20:03
* LoT grins20:03
QuintasanLoT: There is also cowbuilder which uses copy-on-write chroots instead of base.tgz20:03
LoTneed I say more? :p20:03
LoTanyways, time to go home, end of day!20:03
maxbQuintasan: Run a local apt caching proxy20:08
maxbI use approx, and all my sbuild chroots are set up to download from http://localhost:9999/20:08
maxb(or bindmound /var/cache/apt/archives into the chroot, I suppose)20:08
TheLordOfTimegeser:  you know, its almost easier to make a damn debdiff instead of branching php5's quantal code20:50
* TheLordOfTime has been running the branch for twenty minutes and hasnt finished20:51
Laneynothing wrong with debdiffs20:52
TheLordOfTimeLaney:  so if i have a patch, for Quantal, and i upload the debdiff *with* the upstream patch, that'd have just as much chance of being accepted as if I requested a code merge from a project branch of my own with the fix?20:54
ScottKProbably more.20:54
ScottKI don't know of any sponsors that are unwilling to use debdiffs.20:55
TheLordOfTimethat's typically how i've handled bugs, upload the debdiff rather than branch the code20:57
TheLordOfTimegiven that bzr is horridly evil on this system20:57
TheLordOfTimeesp. when you're working remotely20:57
TheLordOfTimeoh, that's interesting...20:59
TheLordOfTimeapparently the bugcontrol-managed plugin for launchpad improvements is incompatible with Firefox latest on precise...?20:59
TheLordOfTimewhoops wrong channel :P20:59
* TheLordOfTime intended that to go to -bugs :p20:59
TheLordOfTimebtw, any of you happen to notice if the wiki's lagging like hell?21:01
LaneyIt's never snappy.21:01
LaneyAnd yeah, everyone knows how to drive patch. Go go debdiff21:02
* TheLordOfTime agrees with debdiffs21:03
TheLordOfTimei do not agree with bzr xD21:03
micahg\o/ ghc 7.4.2-2 in unstable23:33

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