[02:14] <JoeCoder_> what's the best option for handling spam on my postfix+courier mail server these days?  spamassassin?
[08:18] <AdvoWork> hi there, ive just installed 12.04 server, i've changed my /etc/network/interfaces to static, and am trying to edit /etc/resolv.conf but it just states: # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)  any suggestions where I can edit that then?
[08:20] <mardraum> yes, the same file (interfaces0
[08:20] <mardraum> (interfaces)
[08:20] <mardraum> dns-nameservers 1.2.3.4
[08:20] <mardraum> dns-search teh.world
[08:21] <mardraum> (it even told you the manpage that explains it btw)
[08:22] <AdvoWork> but won't that get overwritten?
[08:23] <mardraum> what?
[08:23] <mardraum> man resolvconf
[08:24] <mardraum> why would your static entry in interfaces get overwritten?
[08:26] <AdvoWork> i missed this off my paste, /etc/resolv.conf shows: DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN  but i changed etc/network/interfaces to have dns-nameservers ....  and rebooted, and now etc/resolv.conf shows the correct thing
[08:27] <mardraum> then I don't understand your question
[08:28] <AdvoWork> ive resolved it now, but i read that i needed to edit /etc/resolv.conf but then i saw that DO NOT edit thing, so i assumed I needed to change another file, which i did(i didn't get it at first, it makes sense now)
[08:35] <RoyK> anyone here that knows a good place to start if I want open source video on demand?
[08:36] <lifeless> vlc ?
[08:48] <RoyK> lifeless: I somewhat doubt that will scale very well
[08:52] <lifeless> RoyK: why do you say that ?
[08:52] <lifeless> RoyK: You know what vlc was *written for*, right ?
[08:59] <RoyK> lifeless: I just wonder how the I/O scheduling will be sorted out if 100 or 1000 concurrent viewers connect to vlc like that
[09:15] <lifeless> RoyK: well, you'd want enough IO bandwidth to handle however many concurrent streams you have going
[09:15] <lifeless> allowing for some buffering to smooth the IO out
[09:25] <AdvoWork> I installed postfix on 10.04 and i'm now trying to replicate this onto 12.04(new server). ive ran the installed on 12.04 and set no config(as I don't know what I did last time), and on my old server i had relaying (relayhost) setup in main.cf but that file doesn't exist on my 12.04. Any ideas please?
[09:27] <AdvoWork> or, if i reconfigure it, can i find out if what option i would have selected on the old version(ie the configuration)?
[09:34] <rbasak> AdvoWork: sounds like you want the "with smarthost" option.
[09:38] <rbasak> AdvoWork: install debconf-utils and use "debconf-get-selections|grep ^postfix" to see what you set last time. look for grep again for postfix/main_mailer_type
[09:40] <AdvoWork> i think its ok now, thanks for the tips rbasak . smarthost option seemed to work
[11:12] <alex88> hi guys, i've created two software arrays, called md4 and md5, they was there after creation, i've also added the mdadm --details --scan on /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and it was fine, with /dev/md/[4,5] now after a reboot i get to /proc/mdstat this http://pastie.org/4399215
[11:13] <alex88> and in /dev/md/ the devices has been renamed from 4,5 to fqdn:4 and fqdn:5 (fqdn is replaced by the real hostname)
[11:13] <alex88> how can i get it back to md 4 and 5?
[11:18] <RoyK> alex88: pastebin the mdadm.conf too, please
[11:20] <alex88> RoyK, second, i'm rebooting again
[11:25] <alex88> RoyK, actually it's http://pastie.org/4399258 but as the devices changed from /dev/md5 to /dev/md127 i need to change it right?
[11:27] <alex88> RoyK, you think that using http://superuser.com/questions/346719/how-to-change-the-name-of-an-md-device-mdadm option #2 works?
[11:46] <RoyK> alex88: looks right
[11:48] <alex88> RoyK, i had problems using update super-minor, i used update-name and it worked
[11:48] <alex88> now i've problems with drbd on those drives :/
[11:49] <RoyK> can't help you there, sorry
[11:49] <alex88> np, thank you anywaty
[11:49] <alex88> *anyway
[11:51] <alex88> on reboot they're back to m--update=name /dev/sd
[11:51] <alex88> *md126 : active (auto-read-only) raid1 sda7[0] sdb7[1]
[11:51] <alex88> wth
[12:25] <V1ru5xd> :D
[12:47] <V1ru5xd> who knows port 666 ?
[12:50] <AdvoWork> i've just done and update and upgrade, but it says: linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server   were kept back. Why?
[12:52] <Pici> AdvoWork: Likely because they require other packages, if you do a dist-upgrade they should be pulled in.
[12:52] <Pici> !dist-upgrade
[12:53] <AdvoWork> !upgrade
[12:53] <AdvoWork> Pici, but i already have: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS \n \l
[12:54] <Pici> AdvoWork: A dist-upgrade is *not* for upgrading to a new release.
[12:55] <Pici> AdvoWork: linux-headers-server, linux-image-server and linux-server now depend on newer packages, which fits the first part of the description of a dist-upgrade (see above)
[12:59] <AdvoWork> Pici, ahh I see
[13:13] <pellaeon> Hi, I'm having some problem with MAAS, when I access http://ip/MAAS , it replies an internal server error. The apache error log reads "FATAL:  password authentication failed for user "maas""
[13:13] <pellaeon> looks like MAAS couldn't access postgresql
[13:14] <pellaeon> but I'm not familiar with postgresql so I wish someone could help me here
[13:35] <AdvoWork> anyone know, or know of a guide to reinstall apache on ubuntu 12.04 but the worker version? ie got the normal version but want the worker one
[13:42] <melmoth> AdvoWork, not usre, but what about trying to install apache2-mpm-worker ?
[14:06] <AdvoWork> melmoth, i've seen that you can only do that with > apache 2.2 and the ubuntu version is 2.2
[14:07] <AdvoWork> if you get me
[14:13] <hallyn> zul: bug 1030612, any opinion?
[14:13] <hallyn> there's the analogous bug for qemu-kvm.
[14:27] <mdeslaur> hallyn: does libvirt even work without dnsmasq?
[14:27] <Ormie> does anyone here installs Ubuntu Server on their laptop?
[14:27] <hallyn> mdeslaur: it won't be able to set up virbr0
[14:27] <hallyn> of course we've also had requests to disable that on server installs
[14:28] <mdeslaur> meh
[14:28] <hallyn> Perhaps all these bugs should be lumped into a feture requests for q+1 to have different defaults for server and desktop installs
[14:28] <hallyn> that, or marked opinion
[14:34] <hallyn> jjohansen: hey, apparmor doesn't seem to play nice with no_new_privs.  It refuses all execs (not just the ones with a domain transition) once nnp is set
[14:35] <hallyn> i can email you a test case (using libseccomp, not nnp directly) if you like
[14:35] <hallyn> not sure we care.  for lxc, we just don't use nnp
[14:35] <hallyn> so, we'll care eventually :)  just not urgent
[14:59] <roaksoax> smb: howdy! would it be possible for you to take a look at bug #1032724 when you have the chance? Thanks!
[15:00] <smb> roaksoax, yes
[15:00] <roaksoax> smb: thanks!
[15:19] <smoser> zul, what is your home netwokr provider's dns server?
[15:30] <RoyK> with zfs, one can use SSDs for caching - anyone that knows if something like that is in the works for ext4 and friends?
[15:30] <patdk-wk> royk, flashcache
[15:30] <patdk-wk> there are others also I believe
[15:30] <patdk-wk> but flashcache has been used for years by facebook
[15:34] <RoyK> hm....
[15:34] <RoyK> I wonder how well that thing will work for video streaming :)
[15:34] <RoyK> as in VoD
[15:35] <patdk-wk> dunno, I have attempted to use it
[15:35] <patdk-wk> but never seem to ever make it to trials, always get distracted, or find I really don't need it
[15:35]  * RoyK may have to setup some streaming solution for his employer, HiOA.no
[15:37] <RoyK> with potentially thousands of viewers of college lessons, I guess we'll need some pretty cool caching to offload the SAN
[15:52] <RoyK> patdk-wk: looks like flashcache is pretty far from a merge - http://bcache.evilpiepirate.org/ might be closer
[15:59] <patdk-wk> well, I never said what one is likely to end up in the kernel :)
[15:59] <patdk-wk> I don't know of anyone using bcache
[15:59] <patdk-wk> but do know flashcache is pretty proven
[16:05] <RoyK> seems varnish supports caching streams these days - perhaps I'd better try that
[16:05] <patdk-wk> ram, it fixs everything :)
[16:06] <RoyK> patdk-wk: except it's a bit hard to fit 4TB of RAM into most systems :P
[16:11] <AdvoWork> argh, i've got a problem, running XEN, with an ubuntu server VM. I think the etc/fstab on that VM has broken, and I can't get it to boot. I'm connected to it via a VPN (i press ESC and I can see the Ubtunu 12.04 loading screen) but going no further. at thetop it says fsck from util-linux, and it seems to be stuck on stopping userspace boot any idea what it could be doing? i think /etc/fstab may have broken it but i dont know
[16:30] <AdvoWork> when i boot the server up, it says Ubunut, with linux 3.2.0-27-generic, and then the same with reovery mode, what will recovery mode do(obv recover, but what options, or automatic or?)
[16:32] <RoyK> it will allow you to recover from unmontable drives etc
[16:32] <RoyK> if you need to boot another kernel, choose another from the grub menu
[16:32] <RoyK> but then - normally, the kernel is ok, but something else is wrong...
[16:34] <AdvoWork> the thing is, i just dont know the problem, its hanging on a screen, it states staring load fallback graphics devices fail  but there is no graphics etc, I dont know if its a fstab problem within the VM, and it stuck on the line stopping userspace boot  just after it did starting
[16:36] <AdvoWork> the other failure I see is: rcpbind: Cannot open '/run/rcpbind/rcpbind.xdr' file for reading, errno 2 (no such file or directory)
[16:36] <jjohansen> hallyn: hrmm, it should be working, can you send me the test case and I'll poke
[16:37] <RoyK> AdvoWork: sorry - no idea
[16:42] <hallyn> jjohansen: sure, i'll fwd my email to libseccomp-devel, just a sec
[16:48] <hallyn> kirkland: is manpages.ubuntu.com automatically updated?  Should quantal manpages be showing up there?
[17:31] <zul> smoser: rogers
[17:32] <smoser> zul, thats not a dns server :)
[17:32] <smoser> you have the IP address?
[17:32] <zul> smoser: oh you want a fully resolvable dns server?
[17:32] <zul> smoser: gimme a sec
[17:33] <smoser> i'd like the 1 or 2 IPs that they give you in your dhcp request
[17:33] <smoser> so i can try them from here (assuming they allow access outside of their networks)
[17:34] <zul> smoser: 64.71.246.28
[17:37] <smoser> zul, this is curious
[17:37] <smoser> what do you get when you do:
[17:37] <smoser>  dig @64.71.246.28 +noall +answer nova.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com
[17:37] <zul> smoser: nada
[17:38] <smoser> it would surely seem that you *did* get something in the past, right?
[17:38] <smoser> dude that is weird.
[17:38] <zul> smoser, persumably
[17:39] <zul> smoser: my isp does dns hijacks if it cant find a resolvable domain as well though
[17:40] <smoser> well, what you're showing me now is that they're not doing that.
[17:40] <smoser> but they presumably were.
[17:42] <zul> smoser, they are doing it everytime i but a bad url in my web browser i get this crappy cant find the site use our search egninge branded by rogres
[17:42] <zul> er...rogers
[17:42] <smoser> right. i'm just wondering how.
[17:42] <smoser> so does
[17:42] <smoser> host nov.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com
[17:43] <smoser> what does that show?
[17:43] <smoser> in the bug you said it was resolving
[17:44] <zul> smoser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1132906/
[17:44] <zul> smoser: which bug is this?
[17:44] <smoser> i'm really confused.
[17:45] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/cloud-init/+bug/974509
[17:45] <smoser> i assumed that the dig command i gave you above and the host command you showed there were roughly equivalent.
[17:45] <zul> smoser: oh right...that bug...we discussed this before, we said my dns is crap :)
[17:45] <smoser> could you also pastebin the command you ran?
[17:46] <smoser> ah. and also cat /etc/resolv.conf ?
[17:46] <zul> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1132912/
[17:47] <zul> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1132916/
[17:48] <smoser> oh. awesome.
[17:49] <smoser> could you pastebin one more thing?
[17:49] <smoser> dig @64.71.246.28 +noall +answer nov.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com
[17:49] <smoser> and
[17:49] <smoser> dig @64.71.246.28 nov.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com
[17:50] <smoser> its pretty awesome... they give empty results for all queries outside of their network to that server.
[17:50] <smoser> oh, and explicitly give the dns server to 'host'
[17:50] <smoser> please
[17:51] <smoser> host nov.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com 64.71.246.28
[17:51] <zul> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1132924/
[17:52] <smoser> and the host with the server?
[17:53] <zul> smoser: gets nothing aback
[17:53] <smoser> chuck.
[17:53] <smoser> why did you give me 64.71.246.28 above?
[17:54] <zul> i thought that was the dns i was using
[17:54] <smoser> and not 64.71.255.198
[17:54] <zul> hmm...my laptop and my workstation seems to be using two different dnses
[17:56] <zul> anyways back to my day off
[17:56] <smoser> thank you zul
[18:23] <hallyn> ahs3: hey, is there anything we need to chat about for netcf 0.2.0?
[18:28] <hallyn> ahs3: otherwise, http://people.canonical.com/~serge/netcf5/netcf_0.2.0-1.dsc should imo be ready to upload
[18:38] <ahs3> hallyn: ah, ok.  let me snag those and see if i can get them in today or tomorrow
[18:39] <ahs3> hallyn: i don't think i had any comments so far, but i'll let you know if i do
[18:41] <thesheff17> join #mtred
[18:45] <hallyn> ahs3: thanks.  do you know when you might have time?  if it'll be awhile, i'll push a 0.2.0~ubuntu1 soon
[18:46] <ahs3> hallyn: i'm planning on this afternoon, if at all possible
[18:46] <MoleMan> what DNS server would you recommend? preferably with a ControlPanel of some sort?
[18:49] <hallyn> ahs3: awesome, thanks, then i'll wait.  (I just want the ubuntu version soon so i can hopefully finish the MIR this cycle)
[18:49] <ahs3> MoleMan: if i just want something lightweight, i use something like maradns.  if i want speed, i use NSD.  if i want all the bells and whistles, i use BIND.
[18:50] <ScottK> MoleMan: If you feel you need a control panel to run a DNS server, my recommendation is that you sign up for a service provider and pay for it.  DNS is not really a thing for amateurs.
[18:50] <ahs3> MoleMan: i admit to being Old Skool, tho.  the only control panel i use is vi :).
[18:50] <ScottK> Personally, I like unbound.
[18:50] <ahs3> for caching, yeah.  i guess i was thinking authoritative
[18:52] <MoleMan> I don't NEED as such, I would just prefer, and I don't actually want to pay for a domain, just set up a local server for some internal network stuff
[18:54] <ScottK> The Ubuntu Server Guide has decent information on how to set up bind9 for Ubuntu.  I'd suggest just use that and follow the documentation closely.
[18:54] <MoleMan> okay, thanks
[18:55] <ahs3> +1 on BIND for that case -- and there's tons of HOWTOs for BIND elsewhere, if you get stuck
[19:21] <jcastro> smoser: is utlemming on holiday?
[20:22] <GreenGoblin> katy perry baby girl i am only a crack in this castle of glass baby why dont you see me anymore i thought you loved me =(
[20:22] <GreenGoblin> !ops
[20:25] <qhartman> Been using the ec2-api tools for some time with no problems. Something changed in the last week or so that causes them to exit with a "permission denied" message. Digging in, I'm finding a NoClassDefFoundError with  com/amazon/aes/webservices/client/cmd/. Any ideas?
[20:25] <qhartman> It seems that the class path isn't getting set right, but as far as I can tell it is.
[21:41] <TheLordOfTime> SpamapS:  around?
[21:42] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: yes
[21:43] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: re the php thing.. its been delayed until after 12.04.1 .. since php5-fpm is not part of the default install/lamp task
[21:43] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: it should be one of the first things we upload too precise-proposed once 12.04.1 is released.
[21:44] <TheLordOfTime> SpamapS:  check the bug(s) again, i uploaded a quantal debdiff
[21:44] <TheLordOfTime> you might be able to process that one now.
[21:44] <TheLordOfTime> (for the segv bug)
[21:45] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: there's no point in doing a quantal debdiff.. 5.4.5 is coming in a merge from Debian soon.
[21:45] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-php/php.git;a=commit;h=101511604791094f9f47450a84fe1179e467d226
[21:51] <TheLordOfTime> SpamapS:  Debian's on freeze...
[21:51] <TheLordOfTime> you sure it got in before the freeze?
[21:51] <maxb> !info php squeeze
[21:51] <TheLordOfTime> (according to the other MOTUs, its on freeze)
[21:51] <TheLordOfTime> !info php unstable
[21:51] <TheLordOfTime> !info php5 unstable
[21:51] <TheLordOfTime> ^
[21:52] <TheLordOfTime> that's sid, but...
[21:52] <TheLordOfTime> last i heard, Debian was already under a freeze
[21:52] <TheLordOfTime> and that was earlier today
[21:53] <TheLordOfTime> was geser who suggested merge-requesting a fix (or debdiffing one) would be a good idea in case it doesnt get into Debian immediately
[21:53] <TheLordOfTime> damn mouse-lag, was setting it back to Triaged and the damn thing hit opinion
[21:53]  * TheLordOfTime slaps his computer
[21:54] <TheLordOfTime> !info php5 testing
[21:54] <TheLordOfTime> !info php5 stable
[21:58] <TheLordOfTime> SpamapS:  just confirmed, in #debian @ irc.oftc
[21:58] <TheLordOfTime> Debian's under a freeze.
[21:59] <Rawrbound> Hi. I am looking for some assistance with setting up DNS servers for use with a domain on a VPS box I got. OS is of course Ubuntu.
[22:03] <TheLordOfTime> SpamapS:  and since that freeze / partial-freeze(sid) might not release for many months, well...
[22:04] <TheLordOfTime> quite inconvenient that the debian freeze comes in approach of a beta 12.10 release, no?
[22:06] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: Yes Debian unstable is frozen. But I imagine Ondrej will upload to experimental at some point
[22:06] <TheLordOfTime> possibly, i didnt check there yet.
[22:06] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: its not that inconvenient. Allows us to catch up and get more stable as well :)
[22:06] <TheLordOfTime> indeed.
[22:06] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: Also we can merge from Debian git
[22:06] <TheLordOfTime> in any case, if an upload to $debian_release_of_choice doesn't happen by the milestone you've set, the debdiff exists
[22:07] <TheLordOfTime> SpamapS:  indeed.
[22:07] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: I don't think we even need an FFE for that one.. 5.4.5 is bugfix only. I think 5.4.6 is almost ready too
[22:09] <TheLordOfTime> well, just keep me in the loop, i'm still pushing for the precise sru
[22:09] <TheLordOfTime> you may want me to resubmit the precise debdiff, though,
[22:09] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: the precise SRU will happen, no doubt
[22:09] <TheLordOfTime> apparently patch filenames diverged :/
[22:09] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: Oh, actually, can you add a test case to the segfault bug for the precise SRU?
[22:10] <TheLordOfTime> SpamapS:  not entirely sure how to confirm, i dont run anything that would pass null to strstr (according to the bug)
[22:10] <TheLordOfTime> bug the poster, have them give a test-case
[22:10] <TheLordOfTime> and if you want, direct them to my SRU builds ppa for php, to test if it fixes it
[22:10] <TheLordOfTime> i know it fixed the PHP error reporting thing
[22:11] <TheLordOfTime> bleh, evil lag
[22:11]  * TheLordOfTime slaps launchpad
[22:11] <TheLordOfTime> apparently i cant access anything on LP :/
[22:12] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: no, we need an actual repeatable test case, or a good assertion that its some kind of race condition or impossible to test reliably for.
[22:12] <TheLordOfTime> i understand.  i was planning on separating the debdiffs anyways
[22:12] <TheLordOfTime> or rather not apply one or the other
[22:13] <TheLordOfTime> SpamapS:  i seriously don't have anything in which i can create a testcase from, at least not at the moment
[22:13] <TheLordOfTime> and if i did i can't add it
[22:13] <TheLordOfTime> (LP is timing out for me)
[22:14] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: understand. The upstream report was pretty vague on details, and I understand why. The patch is simple and the reasons for hitting it not super well understood. I think with a segfault we can say "no test case, just test that php5-fpm works"
[22:14] <TheLordOfTime> indeed.
[22:15] <TheLordOfTime> you'll have to post on that, apparently my system is running into the highly-repeatable issue with comcast-random-timeouts-for-extended-periods
[22:20] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: ugh
[22:20] <ScottK> Well Comcast is nothing but repeatable errors and outages.
[22:21] <TheLordOfTime> tell me about it
[22:21] <TheLordOfTime> actually, the most recent ZNC disconnect was a weird issue with rfkill
[22:21] <TheLordOfTime> where the only way to fix it was to  restart o.O
[22:21] <TheLordOfTime> (apparently the hardware switch for wifi no longer works)
[22:41] <pmatulis> kirkland: i'm reading your blog on overlayfs, fyi the dmcrypt.png does not render well
[22:41] <pmatulis> (when clicked upon)