[12:45] <smartboyhw> Hi
[12:46] <smartboyhw> phillw, you here?
[13:27] <smartboyhw> Someone write testimoinials for me and +1s in the Ubuntu Forums membership part, I want to apply for Membership...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2038322
[14:52] <balloons> phillw, ping
[14:52] <smartboyhw> Yeah, balloons, you're here!
[14:54] <smartboyhw> balloons: I'm working on a draft for UEFI, Want to see?
[14:55] <balloons> smartboyhw, sure
[14:56] <smartboyhw> Wait, putting it in Skydrive.
[15:00] <smartboyhw> balloons: http://sdrv.ms/ROS6Cz
[15:02] <smartboyhw> balloons: Got that?
[15:06] <balloons> smartboyhw, yep
[15:07] <balloons> did you go through this yourself?
[15:07] <smartboyhw> No, I asked phillw to do so.
[15:11] <phillw> hi smartboyhw balloons,
[15:11]  * smartboyhw waves at phillw and balloons.
[15:11] <phillw> balloons: I did email you - was awaiting you to come reply.
[15:12] <balloons> phillw, hey
[15:12] <balloons> yes.. I think I sent one back
[15:12] <smartboyhw> Anyone read my e-mail to add two things to the agenda?
[15:12] <phillw> okies. I'm just back from shopping :)
[15:12] <balloons> I was pinging you on the dvd overwriting issue
[15:12] <balloons> remember that bug from last week?
[15:12] <smartboyhw> How's your vacation?
[15:12] <balloons> with wubi?
[15:12] <smartboyhw> Wubi?
[15:12] <smartboyhw> WHich one?
[15:13] <phillw> There has been some falling out with one of them. I await the dust to settle...
[15:13] <balloons> phillw, ahh ok. Well I did confirm wubi cannot write to a cd or dvd
[15:13] <phillw> we always fight like cat & dog, but this time it got a more serious :/
[15:13] <balloons> it doesn't contain code to do so
[15:14] <phillw> balloons: thanks, in that case I'm not sure what it happening - as Jason did replicate it.
[15:14] <balloons> phillw, did he?
[15:14] <balloons> smartboyhw, bug not reported
[15:15] <phillw> yes, he did while you were in IRC with him.
[15:16] <smartboyhw> I need to go. Bye!
[15:16] <balloons> phillw, right right
[15:17] <balloons> i can only assume user error
[15:17] <balloons> the problem he is describing is impossible according to the dev
[15:17] <balloons> which confirms my thoughts..
[15:18] <phillw> hmm, well. When the dust settles (hopefully in next couple of days) I will bring the matter back up with him.
[15:19] <phillw> balloons: okies, I'll go through that test case with Ho Wan.
[15:19] <balloons> phillw, yes
[15:19] <balloons> I continnue to be currious
[15:19] <balloons> heh
[15:20] <phillw> I don't have a copy of vista, so I cannot install it onto my other hard drive and try myself.
[15:20] <balloons> phillw, yes if you wouldn't mind helping him that would be good.. something in the proper format could be usefull to add
[15:20] <balloons> right, same
[15:21] <phillw> TBH I'm very suprised at Derrick still running Vista! It is releases what ME was ... best quietly forgotten :P
[15:21] <phillw> I spent months putting XP back on computers that came shipped with Vista ;)
[15:23] <phillw> I couldn't on my own laptop as there were no XP drivers for it :( It is now my sister's laptop with lubuntu on it & flies like the devil!
[15:25] <balloons> hehe
[15:25] <balloons> yes, seems more people are hearing about lubuntu
[15:26] <phillw> for any basic XP or Vista computer it is a good one to at least try. If they like their candy (and some do), then they can try one of the members of our family. Having a choice is brilliant :)
[15:30] <phillw> balloons: as you get chance, can you onto an email your thoughts of iso's being archived as you mentioned. I estimate that at 6 milestones / flavour / arch it is actually not an inconsiderable amount of work!
[15:31] <balloons> phillw, http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/xp3q5/stepmothers_emachines_t3120_revived_with_lubuntu/
[15:31] <balloons> phillw, well, do you archive the dailys or milestones right now for lubuntu images?
[15:32] <balloons> do you have the alpha 1 from this cycle?
[15:32] <balloons> from last cycle?
[15:34] <phillw> when I was actively testing, I did keep them on my local machine. But it was only at the close of 12.04 did I switch over to the new server. The previous hosting company unilaterally deleted all my archives of lubuntu - I was not pleased, but there was little I could do, it was in the fine print somewhere.
[15:35] <phillw> nice posting. I'm sure I saw something aboyt nVidia going to liase with lunix for drivers?
[15:37] <phillw> I'm guestimating about 250 - 300 GB of disk space per cycle if I archive 6 milestones across each flavour / arch.
[15:38] <phillw> maybe one of the admins from cd.image could tell me what is on each milestone as per the iso.tracker so I have a better idea?
[15:46] <balloons> phillw, yes I'm guessing we could get the numbers
[15:52] <phillw> balloons: I've just sent off a support ticket to find the cost of a 2TB usb drive to be added, as it is archiving and hopefully infrequently accessed a usbV2 drive should be fast enough for us.
[15:52] <phillw> YAY!!! GB have just got another Gold medal in Equestrian event :D
[15:53] <phillw> oops, sorry... I'm also wathich the Olympics :)
[15:53] <phillw> 1st Gold in 60 years at show-jumping :)
[15:57] <phillw> I can have 2 of them, to back up my exisiting 2TB internal drive. I don't think I need the 2nd one yet, I still have over 700 GB in the 'pool' that can be allocated as and where needed.
[16:35] <balloons> phillw, :-)
[16:35] <balloons> one more week to go
[16:37] <phillw> ??
[16:39] <balloons> phillw, the olympics
[16:39] <balloons> i was sidebarring with you
[16:39] <balloons> haha
[16:39] <balloons> on the iso thing, yea, it would be potentially a lot of bandwidth
[16:39] <balloons> for images, well, let's take a look
[16:40] <balloons> if we wanted to store say every flavor image(s) for every milestone  for the entire development cycle?
[16:42] <phillw> provided you suddenly did have 100 people grab the alpha 1 of kubuntu after the beta 1 of kubuntu, bandwidth is not a real issue, we have 10 Tb / month as an allowance. I've peaked at 1.5 Tb for the month after 12.04 Lubuntu was released. We're only a secondary server.
[16:42] <phillw> *you did not suddenly have*
[16:50] <balloons> ok, so something 8 Gig per milestone for ubuntu
[16:50] <balloons> that was a really fast guess
[16:51] <balloons> 50 G out to cover all the milestones then
[16:51] <balloons> that simply for ubuntu of course.. Then you have the other flavors, none of which have that many images
[16:51] <balloons> I think your 200 G estimate is about right
[17:13] <phillw> balloons: my maths is not that bad - honest :P
[17:14] <balloons> phillw, hah
[17:14] <phillw> I did have a look at the releases & iso sizes before doing my guestimate :)
[17:14] <balloons> I knew you had it figured out
[17:15] <phillw> balloons: It is important, that is why I asked for a 2nd opinion. Having a decimal point in the wrong place would have been somewhat embarressing!
[17:15] <balloons> ask nasa about that one
[17:15] <phillw> or the French, when a +1 was a -1 and crashed an Arien Rocket :P
[17:16] <phillw> but, on NASA, they got the rover safely down.... Fantastic news!