=== _salem is now known as salem_ === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:45] Hi [12:46] phillw, you here? [13:27] Someone write testimoinials for me and +1s in the Ubuntu Forums membership part, I want to apply for Membership...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2038322 [14:52] phillw, ping [14:52] Yeah, balloons, you're here! [14:54] balloons: I'm working on a draft for UEFI, Want to see? [14:55] smartboyhw, sure [14:56] Wait, putting it in Skydrive. [15:00] balloons: http://sdrv.ms/ROS6Cz [15:02] balloons: Got that? [15:06] smartboyhw, yep [15:07] did you go through this yourself? [15:07] No, I asked phillw to do so. [15:11] hi smartboyhw balloons, [15:11] * smartboyhw waves at phillw and balloons. [15:11] balloons: I did email you - was awaiting you to come reply. [15:12] phillw, hey [15:12] yes.. I think I sent one back [15:12] Anyone read my e-mail to add two things to the agenda? [15:12] okies. I'm just back from shopping :) [15:12] I was pinging you on the dvd overwriting issue [15:12] remember that bug from last week? [15:12] How's your vacation? [15:12] with wubi? [15:12] Wubi? [15:12] WHich one? [15:13] There has been some falling out with one of them. I await the dust to settle... [15:13] phillw, ahh ok. Well I did confirm wubi cannot write to a cd or dvd [15:13] we always fight like cat & dog, but this time it got a more serious :/ [15:13] it doesn't contain code to do so [15:14] balloons: thanks, in that case I'm not sure what it happening - as Jason did replicate it. [15:14] phillw, did he? [15:14] smartboyhw, bug not reported [15:15] yes, he did while you were in IRC with him. [15:16] I need to go. Bye! [15:16] phillw, right right [15:17] i can only assume user error [15:17] the problem he is describing is impossible according to the dev [15:17] which confirms my thoughts.. [15:18] hmm, well. When the dust settles (hopefully in next couple of days) I will bring the matter back up with him. [15:19] balloons: okies, I'll go through that test case with Ho Wan. [15:19] phillw, yes [15:19] I continnue to be currious [15:19] heh [15:20] I don't have a copy of vista, so I cannot install it onto my other hard drive and try myself. [15:20] phillw, yes if you wouldn't mind helping him that would be good.. something in the proper format could be usefull to add [15:20] right, same [15:21] TBH I'm very suprised at Derrick still running Vista! It is releases what ME was ... best quietly forgotten :P [15:21] I spent months putting XP back on computers that came shipped with Vista ;) [15:23] I couldn't on my own laptop as there were no XP drivers for it :( It is now my sister's laptop with lubuntu on it & flies like the devil! [15:25] hehe [15:25] yes, seems more people are hearing about lubuntu [15:26] for any basic XP or Vista computer it is a good one to at least try. If they like their candy (and some do), then they can try one of the members of our family. Having a choice is brilliant :) [15:30] balloons: as you get chance, can you onto an email your thoughts of iso's being archived as you mentioned. I estimate that at 6 milestones / flavour / arch it is actually not an inconsiderable amount of work! [15:31] phillw, http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/xp3q5/stepmothers_emachines_t3120_revived_with_lubuntu/ [15:31] phillw, well, do you archive the dailys or milestones right now for lubuntu images? [15:32] do you have the alpha 1 from this cycle? [15:32] from last cycle? [15:34] when I was actively testing, I did keep them on my local machine. But it was only at the close of 12.04 did I switch over to the new server. The previous hosting company unilaterally deleted all my archives of lubuntu - I was not pleased, but there was little I could do, it was in the fine print somewhere. [15:35] nice posting. I'm sure I saw something aboyt nVidia going to liase with lunix for drivers? [15:37] I'm guestimating about 250 - 300 GB of disk space per cycle if I archive 6 milestones across each flavour / arch. [15:38] maybe one of the admins from cd.image could tell me what is on each milestone as per the iso.tracker so I have a better idea? [15:46] phillw, yes I'm guessing we could get the numbers [15:52] balloons: I've just sent off a support ticket to find the cost of a 2TB usb drive to be added, as it is archiving and hopefully infrequently accessed a usbV2 drive should be fast enough for us. [15:52] YAY!!! GB have just got another Gold medal in Equestrian event :D [15:53] oops, sorry... I'm also wathich the Olympics :) [15:53] 1st Gold in 60 years at show-jumping :) [15:57] I can have 2 of them, to back up my exisiting 2TB internal drive. I don't think I need the 2nd one yet, I still have over 700 GB in the 'pool' that can be allocated as and where needed. [16:35] phillw, :-) [16:35] one more week to go [16:37] ?? [16:39] phillw, the olympics [16:39] i was sidebarring with you [16:39] haha [16:39] on the iso thing, yea, it would be potentially a lot of bandwidth [16:39] for images, well, let's take a look [16:40] if we wanted to store say every flavor image(s) for every milestone for the entire development cycle? [16:42] provided you suddenly did have 100 people grab the alpha 1 of kubuntu after the beta 1 of kubuntu, bandwidth is not a real issue, we have 10 Tb / month as an allowance. I've peaked at 1.5 Tb for the month after 12.04 Lubuntu was released. We're only a secondary server. [16:42] *you did not suddenly have* [16:50] ok, so something 8 Gig per milestone for ubuntu [16:50] that was a really fast guess [16:51] 50 G out to cover all the milestones then [16:51] that simply for ubuntu of course.. Then you have the other flavors, none of which have that many images [16:51] I think your 200 G estimate is about right [17:13] balloons: my maths is not that bad - honest :P [17:14] phillw, hah [17:14] I did have a look at the releases & iso sizes before doing my guestimate :) [17:14] I knew you had it figured out [17:15] balloons: It is important, that is why I asked for a 2nd opinion. Having a decimal point in the wrong place would have been somewhat embarressing! [17:15] ask nasa about that one [17:15] or the French, when a +1 was a -1 and crashed an Arien Rocket :P [17:16] but, on NASA, they got the rover safely down.... Fantastic news! === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 === salem_ is now known as _salem