=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [05:37] morning everyone [05:39] safe on mars [05:39] more oom kilos [05:40] more kerbie als goed? [05:40] jip geen probleme [05:53] Morning oom Kilos, Kerbero [05:54] hi superfly [05:54] * superfly is on the train again after a 2 week "break" [05:55] lol then you should be able to tackle work with a new energy [05:55] vigour [05:55] Maaz, spell vigour [05:55] Kilos: Yup, that's a word all right [05:55] Kilos: after a night of little sleep? [05:56] aw which one kept you up? [06:00] superfly, to sync means to make 2 folders the same doesnt it? [06:04] o/ mornings oom Kilos, superfly, Kerbero [06:04] morning nuvolari [06:05] Kilos: both of them, and yes. "sync" is just an afkorting of synchronisation [06:05] morning nuvolari [06:05] Maaz: define synchronisation [06:05] superfly: synchronisation n 1: the relation that exists when things occur at the same time; "the drug produces an increased synchrony of the brain waves" [syn: {synchronism}, {synchrony}, {synchronicity}, {synchroneity}, {synchronization}, {synchronisation}, {synchronizing}] [ant: {asynchronism}, {asynchrony}, {desynchronisation}, {desynchronization}, {desynchronizing}] 2: an adjustment that causes something to occur or recur in unison [syn [06:06] im struggling to get ubuntuone to take the last 200 meg of a folder up there [06:06] upload stopped at 465 and shoulda been 677 meg [06:07] and #ubuntuone never answer [06:07] sigh [06:07] Kilos: use the touch command on the file [06:07] (or folder) [06:07] $ touch ubuntu.iso [06:08] That might trigger UbuntuOne to sync the last 200 megs [06:08] Kilos: also, are you sure Ian has bandwidth? [06:08] he has uncapped mweb at work superfly [06:09] ah ok [06:09] Kilos: did he ge a new job recently? [06:10] *get [06:10] nope still trying to keep that same place going [06:10] only his section is still bringing in any income [06:11] * superfly can't remember all the ins and outs [06:11] so all the extras he can do is helping the whole company [06:11] Ah, OK [06:11] they do finger/hand/et al scneers and stuff [06:12] scanners [06:12] Oh right, that place [06:12] What is Ian doing specifically? [06:12] now i have a gigabyte mb cd iso for him to fix a pc and i cant get the full iso to ubuntuone [06:13] grrr [06:13] he is doing all the pc repairs and the software installs and fault finding and client help for them [06:18] superfly, the folder on my desktop is called my iso and the file inside is called my.iso [06:18] tried touch with both but no data went [06:19] must the touch command have paths etc in? [06:21] tried sudo touch my.iso [06:21] and nothing happened either [06:21] must i pount it to ubuntuone somehow [06:21] Kilos: touch just updates the modified time [06:21] point [06:21] oh [06:22] Kaapstad, I have crowds to surf... Later. [06:22] now i must tell ubuntuone to explore again? [06:22] toods superfly [06:42] inetpro, good morning your knowledge of rsync is needed desperately here [06:42] dont say man rsync [06:49] good morning [06:49] Maaz: coffee on [06:49] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [06:53] Coffee's ready for charlvn! [06:53] yo charlvn [06:53] Maaz, coffee please [06:53] Kilos: There isn't a pot on [06:53] aw [06:54] Maaz, coffee on [06:54] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [06:57] morning [06:57] Maaz: coffee please [06:57] Squirm: Alrighty [06:58] Coffee's ready for Kilos and Squirm! [06:58] Maaz, ty [06:58] You are welcome Kilos [06:58] hi Squirm [06:59] I feel like death [06:59] ]:/ [06:59] :/ [06:59] don't like being sick [07:00] aw [07:00] death warmed up or just death? [07:01] heh [07:01] hi Symmetria [07:01] ouch, my current desktop (which is my home machine and my work machine) is simply not powerful enough for what I want anymore [07:01] so I ordered an upgraded machine, holy crap that cost money [07:02] heh, got an I7 X3960 cpu, 64gigs of ram, a top end video card and a bunch of 3TB drives [07:02] if you have a permanent residence why not build up your own super computer like nasa did [07:03] that sounds expensive [07:04] heh the cpu was 10 grand alone [07:05] ouch [07:06] * Squirm looks at Symmetria [07:06] I have 2Gb of ram [07:06] dual core processor [07:07] ok, office machine is i5 with 8Gb ram [07:07] does anybody want to do a python pyramid project, few months, stellenbosch area [07:07] clearly the university of FS paid symm too much [07:08] snakes in pyramids? [07:08] heh Kerbero this is more of a business expense [07:08] there is software and stuff I need to work with that typically would run on large vmware clusters [07:08] so you need storage space for that? [07:08] th storage space is cheap :p [07:08] haha true [07:08] its the cpu/ram thats a problem [07:09] heh the problem is, most desktop cpus/boards only address 32gigs of ram [07:09] jip [07:09] if you want 64, you gotta start spending money on cpus and boards [07:09] tonberry352_: haha well sortof [07:09] the ram itself is dirt cheap [07:09] the board/cpu to address it is another story [07:09] :p [07:09] Symmetria: what OS you running? [07:09] and *shrug* if Im gonna throw that kinda board/cpu at a machine, there aint no way Im doing it without one beautiful graphics card :p [07:10] Squirm dependant on what Im doing, pretty much, all of them :p [07:10] lol [07:10] very good answer [07:11] heh, I have windows for my office applications (because MS Office is still the most compatible with the rest of the world and still works better than most things), I run linux for stuff like junos space, I run bsd for simulation of junos routers, I run OS-X for junos space iphone development [07:11] :p [07:11] Ive yet to find a reason to run solaris at home :p [07:12] so yeah, quite simply, I run it all :p [07:12] junos = juniper? [07:12] Kerbero yeah [07:12] junos space is their network management application, its built ontop of linux and opennms [07:13] but heh, so heavily developed and customized its unrecognizable from the original [07:13] and contains a full SDK/API [07:13] you can do some interesting things on it [07:13] o ok [07:13] like junos space aware iphone applications which talk indirectly to all your network gear [07:14] and they encourage dev on it of third party apps, and *shrug* there are some nifty little features which are missing out there so throwing together a few android/iphone apps to run with it [07:14] :P which I'll stick in the store and hopefully make a few bucks off of :p [07:14] but it is not free/oss? [07:14] Kerbero no, its not free/oss, heh, the network world doesnt do free/oss :p [07:15] people gotta make a living :) lol [07:15] yeah :( [07:15] it is the things i would like to play with [07:15] heh though the thing about the juniper stuff is interesting, its built on top of oss platforms [07:15] on a juniper router you can even type system cli and end up at a freebsd prompt [07:16] hiya maiatoday [07:17] good morning Kilos, Kerbero, Symmetria, maiatoday, Squirm [07:18] not bad activity for a monday morning :) [07:18] lo charlvn [07:18] btw, has anyone here worked with netdot [07:18] i see everyone is working hard to recover from the weekend :) [07:18] lol, I phoned the pc shop here in east london and asked for a quote for the new machine and the guy kinda choked [07:18] and asked me wtf I wanted specs like those for [07:19] in a town the size of this, you arent meant to buy machines like that [07:19] hahaa no [07:19] hi Kilos, charlvn and everybody [07:21] hello charlvn [07:22] hrm [07:22] anyone know an6ything about video cards? [07:22] Im looking at the nvidia gtx 960, any thoughts? [07:22] i know that i'm very happy with my intel one in ubuntu [07:24] +1 [07:25] i recently bought a new laptop and opted for an core i3 (with hyperthreading) and an intel hd graphics card [07:25] everything worked out of the box with ubuntu [07:39] charlvn, whats that hyper threading thing [07:39] i see in bios here i can enable it [07:39] but left it because i didnt know what it does [07:39] cpu hyperthreading [07:41] heh [07:41] hyperthreading is fake multi-coring [07:41] oh isa it safe to use? [07:41] yeah, though Ive never seen real performance benefits from it [07:42] ah ty [07:43] http://www.intel.co.za/content/www/za/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/desktop-board-dx79si.html [07:43] heh thats the motherboard Im putting in [07:43] http://www.pricecheck.co.za/offers/28134918/Intel+Core+i7+3960X+Sandy+Bridge+3.3GHz+Socket+LGA2011/ [07:43] with that cpu [07:49] Kilos: i have two cores but both have hyperthreading and i have four effective threads [07:49] ah [07:50] Symmetria: it depends on what you are doing [07:51] bbl [07:51] we did a linpack test a few weeks ago on a sandybridge i5 and i7 (i7 only has extra hyperthreading) and we got about 2 gigaflops increase in performance [07:51] that is about 2% more performace [07:52] at almost 30% increase in price [07:58] Kerbero which I7 cpu btw? [07:58] 3500K [07:58] iirc [07:59] cause that 3960X is rather... a different beast [07:59] hmm [07:59] no [07:59] it was sandybridge [07:59] that 3960X has sick amounts of cpu cache and is a 6 core cpu [07:59] 2500K i asume [07:59] aha yes, we tested 2500K vs 2600K [08:00] yeah, i suspect if you went ot the 3960X you'd see... a lot better performance [08:00] yes indeed [08:01] my i5 ivybridge outperforms that i7 anyway [08:06] hi :D [08:06] charlvn: I'm listening to jacaranda :) [08:11] hi smile [08:12] hi Kilos :) [08:12] you like http://www.jacarandafm.com/kagiso/content/en/jacaranda/jacaranda-listen ? [08:12] :p [08:12] yeah we get it here on the radio === deegee__ is now known as drussell [08:14] :D [08:14] Kilos: I don't like the fact that they mention "Jacaranda" every minute xD [08:14] its advertising [08:15] to get it into thick heads that found it by accident [08:15] Yeah, that everyone knows that it's called Jacaranda :) [08:19] Kilos: is your radio turned on? [08:19] :p [08:21] nope [08:21] silence is golden [08:23] Silence is gold? :D [08:36] there is a song called silence is golden i think [08:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe4qk7Mijlo [08:48] Kilos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuYvKLZXKhI <- worth listening :) [08:49] i dont go to youtube if at all possible [08:49] data hog [08:50] ok :) [08:58] good morning all [09:01] good morning magespawn :) [09:03] hey smile [09:04] :p [09:05] hi there magespawn [09:05] hi Kilos [09:35] anybody familiar with the df command? [09:36] holy CRAP [09:36] I just saw the quote on the video card I want [09:36] * Symmetria falls over and dies [09:37] motherboard/cpu/ram/disks combined = R26.8k, add the video card, total price goes up to R40k :p [09:37] * Symmetria chokes [09:37] nice what card? [09:38] the GTX690 [09:39] that is expensive, is that here in SA? [09:39] yeah, its basically R13k for the video card [09:40] motherboard/cpu is a combined R15k [09:40] ram is R4k [09:40] only price i can get is in dollars [09:40] drives are R8k combined for the lot [09:40] (R5k for the 3 x 3TB disks and 3k for the 250gig SSD) [09:41] but yeah, the cpu and the video card are the 2 real pricy pieces [09:43] what cpu? [09:43] the 3960X [09:43] (i7 6core 16meg cache) [09:44] what would you be doing with a mchine like that? [09:45] same thing we do every night pinky [09:45] try to take over the world! [09:45] lol [09:45] magespawn heh, vmware shit for a lot of it [09:48] seems like a lot of processing power [09:48] heh magespawn its more about the ram [09:48] you cant address more than 32gig of ram on most desktop boards/desktop cpus [09:48] when you want 64 you gotta start paying big money for the cpus / boards [09:49] why not run a server chip and board? [09:50] heh because thats not that much cheaper :) [09:50] true [09:50] do you have to have the card? [09:51] gonna be ordering shortly [09:51] was just gathering quotes :) [09:52] is sounds more like a win gamers pc, with those specs [09:53] magespawn lol, dual purpose machine :p [09:53] ;P my world of warcraft will play nicely with that [09:53] haha [10:03] Symmetria: I don't see what your problem is with that card. I mean, it's not like you're short on money. [10:06] superfly lol, still choking on paying that much for a video card [10:06] :p [10:06] its worth double what my current desktop is worth :P (ok, excluding my monitors) [10:07] :P thats the thing about having money, you become very resistant to spending it for some reason haha [10:07] Symmetria: well then why don't you just pay for my medical bills, they're only R15k - I certainly don't have the money for that. [10:07] superfly why not have medical aid pay :( [10:07] Symmetria: because they refuse to [10:07] why?! [10:08] brb, eten :p [10:08] under what grounds? [10:12] that sucks superfly [10:13] "This amount exceeds the maximum payable amount allowed by the Scheme" [10:13] eina [10:14] for mrsfly and the larvae? [10:14] you need one of them other policies that pay a daily amount while in hospita as well then that woulda helped [10:15] that guy barko had an uncle that did it methinks [10:15] just get all ports covered for next larvae [10:17] magespawn: for mrs_fly's c-section [10:18] was it an emergency or planned? [10:58] magespawn: technically it was an emergency [10:59] something is not right there, if it is an emergency then it is covered bt different rules [11:00] also if the admission to the hospital was cleared through the medical aid then they should cover it [11:00] yeah, well, they're "investigating" [11:01] magespawn: the hospital part is not the problem, they're paying for that. It's the doctor's fees they don't want to pay [11:02] they generally only pay the medical aid rate but again the doctors rate would have be part of the authorization before hand [11:02] they should have stated what they would and would not pay for [11:03] hectic stuff. [11:03] also you can appeal any decision the medical aid takes. [11:05] rebooting brb [11:05] magespawn: well, I've got Discovery investigating, so we'll see where we get [11:06] let me know if you want some detailed help [11:08] magespawn: have you had to deal with stuff like that? [11:09] not directly with a c-section no [11:10] magespawn: well, with medical aids not paying out, I meant [11:11] yes also with hospital stays [11:12] there are usually other options for payment, like the savings plan etc [11:12] it also helps to understand the rules of medical aids [11:18] *yawn* [11:37] hrm [11:38] technically the medical aid dependant on the plan will by default pay medical rate * multiplier [11:38] so like, when i was in hospital in 2009 for a month [11:38] the doctors rate was 300% [11:38] my plan was medical aid rate * 2 [11:38] so I ended up like, 50k outta pocket [11:38] which sucked :) [12:36] brb [13:22] hi uncle Kilos [13:25] Maaz: is http://en.wikipedia.org/ down? [13:25] inetpro: No, it's just you [13:25] hmm... [13:26] o/ inetpro problems getting the knowledge from the web? [13:26] nlsthzn: yep, timing out for me [13:26] resolving to 208.80.154.225 [13:27] seems to be timing out for me too [13:27] hi nlsthzn inetpro [13:27] hi Kilos [13:29] hey guys [13:30] eh magespawn [13:30] what is the better way to ssh password or pgp? [13:30] nlsthzn: now I wonder whether it's just wikipedia or whether it's a line issues somewhere beyond Africa [13:31] well it opened for me eventually... [13:31] so perhaps you are correct [13:32] with wget -S -O /dev/null http://en.wikipedia.org/ I get: [13:32] Connecting to en.wikipedia.org|208.80.154.225|:80... failed: Operation timed out. [13:32] oh and [13:32] Connecting to en.wikipedia.org|2620:0:861:ed1a::1|:80... failed: Protocol not supported. [13:32] Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem. This is probably temporary and should be fixed soon. Please try again in a few minutes. [13:33] obviously we don't use IPv6 yet [13:33] You may be able to get further information in the #wikipedia channel on the Freenode IRC network. [13:34] inetpro, ^^ [13:34] Kilos: where did you get that? [13:34] from firefox [13:34] hehe [13:34] Kilos: thanks [13:35] tried to go there and got lotsa info back [13:35] yw [13:35] If you report this error to the Wikimedia System Administrators, please include the details below. [13:35] Request: GET http://en.wikipedia.org/, from 10.64.0.141 via cp1014.eqiad.wmnet (squid/2.7.STABLE9) to () [13:35] Error: ERR_CANNOT_FORWARD, errno [No Error] at Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:32:41 GMT [13:35] hehe [13:37] hmm... [13:37] #wikimedia takes me to #wikimedia-overflow [13:37] i try [13:37] looks like they have lotsa problems [13:38] see: http://status.wikimedia.org/ [13:38] nee man [13:38] i did /j #wikimedia [13:38] and im there [13:39] Maaz: last tweet by alrightthenills [13:39] inetpro: "Whoever is responsible for stealing wikipedia, please return it now and we'll say no more about it. Thank you." 59 seconds ago, http://twitter.com/Alrightthenills/statuses/232470642862202880 [13:39] wiki media inetpro [13:39] not pedia [13:39] brb [13:40] they talking bout network probs [13:40] Kilos: haha, no I'm looking for stuffs on *pedia [13:40] ah [13:41] skuus [14:01] hey having a bit of a problem setting up a quassel core? [14:01] cannot connect to it [14:02] wow #wikipedia is really busy, just got in there when I tried again [14:02] like 420 nicks [14:03] Nerd rage [14:03] 06/08 16:01:34 Wikipedia is currently down due to networking issues. No ETA is known at the moment. English Mobile site is going up and down. To see current Wikipedia status go to http://status.wikimedia.org. If you want to browse the wiki, please try other tools such as Archive.org and Google Cache. [14:03] nlsthzn, what do i do with that [14:03] ouch [14:04] /home/username/. profile [14:04] cant cd to it [14:04] or gedit [14:04] nothing there [14:05] then there is nothning set up in there I assume... [14:06] I thought that you could access it from terminal but not edit it and with SU you got the error so all I was suggesting was to use the full path name name and not ~ (not that is should have been needed)... [14:06] ya opens 2 tabs, username and profile [14:06] both empty [14:06] i dont understand what wesley wanted me to do [14:08] seems there is a way to add start-up applications somewhere in the power configuration settings or something [14:08] * nlsthzn not Ubuntu so can't go look [14:10] Kilos: maybe the space doesn't belong there [14:10] :p [14:10] hehe [14:11] what space [14:11] /home/username/. profile [14:11] check if you find a space there [14:11] should be /home/username/.profile [14:11] looks like there is one but i tried [14:13] gedit still opens an empty page [14:13] i can open startup apps [14:13] then can add [14:14] name command and comment [14:14] but dunno what they must be [14:16] seems you can name it what you like and then you can add "nm-applet" without the quotations as the command [14:17] it will do what kbmonkey was suggesting without needing to use the terminal [14:17] inetpro, "Hmm,.. Wikipedia has now been down for about an hour, possibly due to a 'cut' line/cable, in Florida; just in case anyone's interested.." [14:17] from antoher channel [14:19] nlsthzn: yeah, that's kind of the message I see on the channel as well, but still sounds fishy [14:19] it should not be that easy to bring it down [14:21] issues in the Tampa Datacenter [14:21] No ETA is known at the moment. [14:22] nicks in the channel are up to 481 already [14:24] and it looks like they're getting back online again [14:27] im still lost nlsthzn got a blank page in gedit [14:27] what part of this do i put in there [14:27] ~/.profile gets run at logon. You can place any startup commands in there. To start nm after a short delay try: (sleep 20s && nm-applet) & [14:28] sure... but don't edit anything there [14:28] only the (sleep 20s && nm-applet) & [14:28] or that whole thing [14:28] if you add it to the start up apps you can just add nm-applet [14:28] no need for it to sleep I would think... [14:29] also the brackets and & are terminal command :p [14:29] oh nm-applet in command [14:29]