[01:17] <W4sp> gmagno: That would be without any user intervention. Are you always in default resolution, e. g. 640 x 480? Also, not clear what you mean by 'no success'. Did you get an error message pointing to sysntax errors? IMO is does not recognize the params.
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> cronie2285, this might help. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/04/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[01:19] <cronie2285> Thanks alot
[01:19] <cronie2285> I'll have a look.
[01:20] <cronie2285> I've been using Fedora for years , but having some issues with ubuntu install.
[01:21] <bonhoeffer> i'm having a terrrible time with my mouse . . . it is moving, but the click isn't taking
[01:22] <bonhoeffer> alt-tab isn't swapping applications either
[01:22] <goddard> if I make a backup image of my disk using dd ... can I install that image using dd on a different drive?
[01:22] <gmagno> W4sp, yes, I'm always in 640x480. By no success I mean resolution keeps the same, the default one. I'm not sure I get any error, at least there is nothing popping up, but there might be messages behind the scenes... I'm a noob :-/
[01:23] <bonhoeffer> any troubleshooting options would be greatly appreciated
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> bonhoeffer, you running the unity de
[01:24] <bonhoeffer> wilee-nilee, not sure -- please let me know of any information i can provide -- 12.04 fresh install
[01:24] <bonhoeffer> or new install over old ubuntu
[01:24] <W4sp> gmagno: NExt time you get a change to boot into GRUB I woudl suggest to figure out what vbeinfo tells you.
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> bonhoeffer, try unity --reset to rest the desktop
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> reset*
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> not sure about the mouse though
[01:25] <gmagno> W4sp, I've done that, it outputs the allowed resolutions I think. But I don't think the output fits in one page... is there a less command in grub command line?
[01:26] <gmagno> something like vbeinfo | less
[01:26] <gmagno> that it didn't work
[01:26] <W4sp> gmagno: I think so but it is 'more'. I need to check the doc, brb.
[01:27] <gmagno> W4sp, ah ok
[01:27] <gmagno> W4sp, would it be helpful for you to see that output? How can I store that content in a file that I can read later?
[01:29] <bonhoeffer_> wilee-nilee: i can't click back into the window and alt-tab can't get me there either
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> bonhoeffer, try ctrl-alt-t to get a terminal then run the command
[01:30] <bonhoeffer_> that helps!
[01:30] <bonhoeffer_> still no idea why alt+tab doesn't work
[01:32] <pr0ndigy> how do i update the kernel in the iso?
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> pr0ndigy, is this a full install?
[01:32] <pr0ndigy> what other kind is there?
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> ah sorry ISO pr0ndigy
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> pr0ndigy, there are loads to a usb that are just the ISO for installs
[01:33] <bonhoeffer_> any idea how i can disable all visual effects with compiz
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> which can gave a persistent option to save your work
[01:33] <bonhoeffer_> from terminal ?
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> bonhoeffer, I would switch to the 2d as lof now
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> of*
[01:34] <bonhoeffer_> any idea how to do that
[01:34] <bonhoeffer_> not sure what you mean by 2d as lof
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> bonhoeffer, yes at the login is a dropdown
[01:34] <InferiorHumanOrg> can someone please help me with something, http://www.mvktech.net/components/com_joomlaboard/uploaded/files/GK104_VGABIOS_GB670WF3_MOD_EXAMPLE.pdf    can someone look at that and tell me what you would change 64 09 to to make 1202 say 1231, and why ?
[01:35] <pr0ndigy> wilee, how do i check the kernel version in the iso? where is it located?
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> pr0ndigy, I don't know that, myself
[01:35] <bonhoeffer_> i don't know, i can't click on logout
[01:35] <n2diy> what all do I need to watch youtube? I installed restricted extras, but I'm still getting missing plug in messages?
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> pr0ndigy, while using it or just accessing the ISO
[01:36] <W4sp> gmagno: I'll be back as I need to boot into my GRUB menu so see what can be done.
[01:36] <pr0ndigy> wilee, i didn't understand your previous answer 100%... is there a way to update the kernel in the iso before i burn it to CD so i don't have anymore kernel panics when trying to install ubuntu?
[01:37] <gmagno> W4sp, wait
[01:37] <bonhoeffer_> crap, i've lost all control -- what is ctl+alt+delete to restart?
[01:37] <W4sp> gmagno: OK.
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> pr0ndigy, not that I know of, there are ways to maske a ISO of a install
[01:38] <gmagno> just want to tell you that there is no less or more, you have to set pager=1
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> make*
[01:38] <gmagno> just found out that
[01:38] <gmagno> that's all
[01:38] <W4sp> gmagno: That's great!
[01:38] <gmagno> set pager=1
[01:38] <L3top> bonhoeffer_: try ctrl alt f2   to get to a terminal... and login, then sudo service lightdm restart       if you are in unity that is
[01:38] <gmagno> that's the syntax
[01:38] <Treaver> Hello my computer died while I was sleeping. I woke up, plugged it in, and turned it on. Now the menubar and the launcher bar are no where to be found? Can someone help me with this problem
[01:39] <gmagno> W4sp, ok, please proceed, I'll be waiting for feedback. Can't tell how much I appreciate this, thanks a lot
[01:39] <bonhoeffer_> L3top: did it, thanks!
[01:40] <W4sp> gmagno: I think now that we know that it is up to you to reboot and see if 1366x768 is supported.
[01:42] <Treaver> Hello my computer died while I was sleeping. I woke up, plugged it in, and turned it on. Now the menubar and the launcher bar are no where to be found? Can someone help me with this problem
[01:42] <gmagno> W4sp, ok. Do you know how to store that output to a file? Because I'm sure that there are several entries on that ouput that refer 1366x768, I think there are several because of number of colors and if it is 32 or 16
[01:44] <jesuschn> Hi
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> pr0ndigy, if you have the install on another computer with what you need you can make an ISO with this,  http://www.remastersys.com/  A ISO can probably be customized I don't know the process though, people come on that build custom ones there is a wiki somewhere.
[01:44] <jesuschn> Theres an specific channel for latin people?
[01:45] <W4sp> gmagno: No. But if you know that 1366x768 is listed we should proceed with 1024x768 and see if it accepts the parameters from the promt. I would give iteration a thumb up. :-)
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> pr0ndigy, here what you need I think https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[01:45] <pr0ndigy> wilee, i'm trying to do a fresh install on my laptop. No other pc has linux/ubuntu on it. Everything else has windows 7
[01:46] <n2diy> what all do I need to watch youtube? I installed restricted extras, but I'm still getting missing plug in messages?
[01:46] <gmagno> W4sp, ok. I should just add vga=1024x768, right?
[01:47] <gmagno> and if an error occurs is there a log file somewhere in the file system I could read?
[01:47] <jesuschn> I looking for Video Drivers for Dell n4010, where i can look?
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> jesuschn, you know the card?
[01:50] <jesuschn> Nop,
[01:50] <jesuschn> how i can know it?
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> jesuschn, this command will tell you post it lspci | grep VGA
[01:50] <jesuschn> wile, thanks gonna try..
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> cool np
[01:51] <jesuschn> wilee, return this > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
[01:51] <jesuschn> VGA its bold,
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> jesuschn, you sure you are not set already, what makes you think you need a driver?
[01:54] <jesuschn> wilee, nothing really, just wanna be sure i been already install this driver..
[01:54] <jesuschn> so, its already installed, no?
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> jesuschn, if everything is running you should be set.
[01:54] <gmagno> W4sp, nevermind, I'm rebooting the laptop, brb
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu is good at finding the right drivers jesuschn
[01:56] <jesuschn> Woot! this amazing.. thanks wilee..!
[01:56] <jesuschn> really thanks for help me :)
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> jesuschn, no problem. ;)
[01:57] <rypervenche> jesuschn: It's built right into the kernel.
[01:58] <pr0ndigy> wilee-nilee: i got the install to work on my laptop. I had to add "acpi=off" to the command line before i ran the install
[01:59] <jesuschn> thanks guys.. see ya later..
[01:59] <jesuschn> bye
[02:00] <rodrigues2k> how can I use google drive in Ubuntu?
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> pr0ndigy, cool.
[02:01] <usr13> What's "google drive"?
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> rodrigues2k, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/insync-brings-google-drive-to-ubuntu
[02:02] <pr0ndigy> usr13: it's google's version of dropbox
[02:03] <jardineworks_> can someone tell me where ANT is installed on Ubuntu (when I install it using apt-get)
[02:03] <jardineworks_> I can't seem to locate it
[02:03] <usr13> Oh ok....  rodrigues2k Looks like you do it from google chrome, (https://drive.google.com/start#home)
[02:05] <usr13> jardineworks_: It's launcher?
[02:05] <usr13> jardineworks_: Search...
[02:05] <usr13> jardineworks_: Read the documentation.
[02:06] <NickECE> is it possible that my broadcom BCM43224 will ONLY accept 108.11n connections?
[02:07] <rodrigues2k> Google drive is a 'folder' in the cloud where I can store my files, and then share it.
[02:07] <usr13> jardineworks_: Alt-F2-ant
[02:08] <rodrigues2k> But, I founded a link that explain how to configure it in Ubuntu.
[02:08] <usr13> NickECE: If it is only a 2.4GHz xvr, yes
[02:08] <jardineworks_> usr13, I don't need to execute the ant command, but thanks
[02:08] <NickECE> usr13, I'm sorry if this is a silly question, but how do I check?
[02:08] <usr13> jardineworks_: What do you need?
[02:09] <usr13> NickECE: http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN/802.11-Wireless-LAN-Solutions/BCM43224
[02:09] <jardineworks_> usr13. it's ok, I found it in /usr/share/ant .. I'm having a problem in eclipse. I click on an Ant target, but nothing happens. The error log is throwing an exception "SocketTimeout" which I can't understand.
[02:10] <usr13> jardineworks_: What is the exact error?
[02:10] <NickECE> hmm so it's fully a/b/g/n compatible... ok now im super stumped
[02:10] <jardineworks_> usr13, I just solved it by overiding the eclipse ant bundle with my install... but the exception I was getting was --
[02:11] <jardineworks_> java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Accept timed out
[02:11] <jardineworks_> 	at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketAccept(Native Method)
[02:11] <jardineworks_> 	at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.accept(PlainSocketImpl.java:408)
[02:11] <jardineworks_> 	at java.net.ServerSocket.implAccept(ServerSocket.java:462)
[02:11] <jardineworks_> 	at java.net.ServerSocket.accept(ServerSocket.java:430)
[02:11] <jardineworks_> 	at org.eclipse.ant.internal.launching.launchConfigurations.RemoteAntBuildListener$ServerConnection.run(RemoteAntBuildListener.java:91)
[02:11] <FloodBot1> jardineworks_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:11] <NickECE> lol
[02:12] <usr13> jardineworks_:  http://forums.adobe.com/thread/505090
[02:12] <usr13> NickECE: What is it?
[02:13] <jardineworks_> usr13, was that supposed to be helpful?
[02:13] <gmagno> hey W4sp problem solved! :D
[02:13] <W4sp> gmagno: Hi. I was eagerly awaiting the good news.
[02:14] <W4sp> gmagno: What was it - enlight me.
[02:14] <usr13> jardineworks_: I dono.  You tell me.
[02:14] <NickECE> I'm not sure if you are familiar with ardrones, but the create their own wireless network and I am trying to connect to it but I keep getting refused. however, I can connect to my home network (802.11n) with ease. I connected an external usb wifi adapter and it connected, but that is not a permanent solution
[02:14] <gmagno> it was my fault of course... I was trying to set 1366x768 (which is what nvidia settings tell about my current resolution), but the supported resolution by grub is 1360x768 :)
[02:14] <usr13> NickECE: No, I'm not familiar with ardrones.
[02:15] <NickECE> ok no worries, thanks for the help anyways
[02:15] <usr13> NickECE: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983905
[02:15] <gmagno> W4sp, so changing from 1366 to 1360 solved the problem... I know, it is disapointing...
[02:15] <W4sp> gmagno: That's what VBE listed you?
[02:15] <gmagno> W4sp, yup, that is correct!
[02:16] <W4sp> gmagno: Good news. Have fun.
[02:16] <gmagno> W4sp, thanks a lot!!
[02:16] <simplew> its already possible to chat with video using empathy and/or pidgin??
[02:16] <NickECE> usr13, yeah I've seen that, but thats not my problem. I CAN connect to certain networks, just not this one
[02:16] <gmagno> take care
[02:16] <simplew> its already possible to chat with video using empathy and/or pidgin  in precise??
[02:16] <xangua> simplew: yes, with xmpp
[02:16] <usr13> NickECE: Ok, .. just FYI ..
[02:16] <NickECE> usr13, no absolutely
[02:16] <NickECE> I appreciate it!
[02:17] <usr13> NickECE: So, the driver software is not the issue....
[02:17] <NickECE> it doesn't seem that way. I just can't seem to connect to this one network. I'm going to try reinstalling the drivers (again) anyways
[02:17] <usr13> NickECE:  I'm not familiar with ardrones, maybe someone else is.
[02:25] <mr-fool> I am just wondering is amd e300apu supported by ubuntu?
[02:26] <W4sp> gmagno: Good luck, take care too.
[02:26] <NickECE> what are some commands I can use to look at the different networks in terminal?
[02:29] <mr-fool> NickECE: netstat -a?
[02:30] <usr13> NickECE: iwlist
[02:32] <kristenbb> hello, how can I uninstall the report bug application, or at least prevent from being displayed ? I tried looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport, I think that's how it's called, but it seems to say it's disabled by default, yet I do see a window asking me to report the crash bug.
[02:35] <theadmin> !find /usr/bin/ubuntu-bug
[02:35] <theadmin> kristenbb: apt-get remove that ^
[02:35] <kristenbb> is it the only package doing that ?
[02:36] <theadmin> kristenbb: Well, all the other packages (such as GUI frontends to it) depend on it and will be removed along with it
[02:36] <mounir> hola
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> remove apport
[02:37] <mounir> hay alguien?
[02:37] <theadmin> !es | mounir
[02:37] <mounir> "/join #ubuntu-es
[02:41] <escapeplan> I need some serious help with Docky, I want it to intellihide, but I'm doing this from a MadBox OS (ubuntu with openbox) and it just does not seem to work out, can I do this the harder way ?
[02:41] <theadmin> escapeplan: We do not support unofficial derivatives, sorry.
[02:42] <theadmin> escapeplan: Maybe they have their own channel?
[02:43] <theadmin> escapeplan: Also do you have xcompmgr enabled? Might need that for those fancy docks...
[02:43] <escapeplan> xcompmgr ?
[02:43] <theadmin> escapeplan: Well, or any other compositing manager.
[02:44] <pr0ndigy> is there a way to update the newest kernel from the GNU GRUB? i can't get ubuntu normal or recovery mode to boot after installing it
[02:44] <theadmin> pr0ndigy: Boot to the old kernel then
[02:44] <pr0ndigy> how do i do that?
[02:44] <theadmin> pr0ndigy: Well, do you get to the GRUB menu? (hold left Shift on boot for that)
[02:44] <escapeplan> I'm installing xcompmgr this instant !
[02:45] <theadmin> escapeplan: Good luck, because I don't have any suggestions but that.
[02:45] <escapeplan> If I change the way I ask the question then, Is there any way to configure Docky without using gconf-editor ?
[02:46] <pr0ndigy> theadmin: yes i get to the GRUB menu, it shows Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-23-generic... and the same but (recovery mode) at the end on the 2nd line
[02:46] <theadmin> pr0ndigy: When you upgrade the kernel, the old one is not removed by default, so it normally is there in the GRUB menu. Did you remove it?
[02:47] <InferiorHumanOrg> http://www.mvktech.net/components/com_joomlaboard/uploaded/files/GK104_VGABIOS_GB670WF3_MOD_EXAMPLE.pdf   can someone tell me what i need to change the bottom right line on the first page to to make it 1231 instead of 1202? i know nothing about hex editing
[02:47] <IntuitiveNipple> pr0ndigy: Does it not also list "Previous Linux versions" ?
[02:47] <IntuitiveNipple> pr0ndigy: if so, choose that - it is a sub-menu to the older kernel installs
[02:47] <pr0ndigy> theadmin: no, this is a fresh install from the windows installer
[02:47] <theadmin> pr0ndigy: Oh dear...
[02:47] <theadmin> I'm not helping anyone with that stuff :/
[02:48] <IntuitiveNipple> pr0ndigy: Have you tried the recovery option? If so, does it show boot messages before it fails?
[02:49] <pr0ndigy> IntuitiveNipple: yes, it shows messages before it fails and the caps lock starts flashing
[02:49] <theadmin> pr0ndigy: Panic. You *have* to boot to another kernel. This one will not boot.
[02:49] <theadmin> pr0ndigy: If you don't have another one, you can only reinstall pretty much.
[02:50] <IntuitiveNipple> pr0ndigy: Well that's a good thing ... at least the kernel is being started... does the screen freeze and leave the messages visible (so you could photograph it) or does it reset too fast for that?
[02:50] <theadmin> IntuitiveNipple: The kernel crashes though ;)
[02:51] <pr0ndigy> theadmin: i've reinstalled 5 times already. the problem is the kernel as confirmed from online forums. i need to get kernel 3.2.0-24 installed somehow and it will be fine
[02:51] <theadmin> pr0ndigy: Maybe you should just do a sane installation instead of trying to use wubi
[02:52] <theadmin> pr0ndigy: If you can't, well, mount the wubi drive, do an  apt-get update;apt-get upgrade
[02:52] <kristenbb> does ls not work with .. ? I can see the file is there, and the shell autocompletes the filename, but when I hit enter, it says no such file or directory
[02:52] <IntuitiveNipple> theadmin: maybe not; it might be triggered by something in the initrd
[02:52] <pr0ndigy> IntuitiveNipple: yes it keeps the messages up.
[02:52] <theadmin> kristenbb: It works with .. in the folder name. Something else must be the problem
[02:53] <kristenbb> can you help me figure out what it is please ? the filename autocompletes fine
[02:53] <IntuitiveNipple> pr0ndigy: On the GRUB menu, highlight the recovery option then press 'e' to edit it. You'll see a few lines including one starting "linux..." and including the word "recovery".  move the cursor to that location, delete "recovery" then replace it with "single init=/bin/bash" and then press Ctrl+X to boot the edited config... you may be lucky and reach a shell prompt. If so, that at least tells us its an init-script issue
[02:53] <theadmin> kristenbb: Well, what's the exact command you're trying?
[02:53] <samiam> Anyone know if PGP has a channel?
[02:54] <kristenbb> something like ls /home/kristen/MyDocuments/MyFolder/../myfile         where myfile is in MyDocuments. However MyFolder is a symlink, this might be the problem.
[02:55] <IntuitiveNipple> pr0ndigy: If you can take a photo of the screen when it locks up... you can upload it to http://imagebin.org
[02:55] <pr0ndigy> IntuitiveNipple: do i delete "nomodeset" also?
[02:55] <theadmin> kristenbb: Yes, it probably is the problem indeed
[02:55] <IntuitiveNipple> pr0ndigy: You don't need to but can... it won't affect things
[02:55] <kristenbb> how can I go back one directory, but in the original folder, rather than the symlink?
[02:57] <kristenbb> ls /home/kristen/MyDocuments/MyFolder/.. shows the contents of the parent of the symlink of MyFolder, rather than just MyDocuments.
[02:57] <W4sp> samiam: PGP was Phil Zimmerman, and is now Symantec. There's GnuPG, (gnupg.org). They are on #gpg
[02:57] <IntuitiveNipple> kristenbb: you could try using " ls `readlink -e  /home/kristen/MyDocuments/MyFolder/../myfile`  "
[02:58] <theadmin> kristenbb: pushd /home/kristen/MyDocuments/MyFolder/../ ; ls ; popd
[02:58] <kristenbb> what's the meaning of pushd/popd?
[02:58] <theadmin> kristenbb: pushd is basically "remember current directory, cd into a new one", popd = "cd back where pushd remembers"
[02:59] <kristenbb> IntuitiveNipple: yes that works too, thanks.
[02:59] <kristenbb> theadmin: that's cool. thanks. it works too.
[02:59] <IntuitiveNipple> kristenbb: readlink -e resolves all the symlinks in a path to a file that must exist
[03:00] <JoeR1> where can I find a list of the string values for the datetime?
[03:01] <IntuitiveNipple> JoeR1: do you meant the format specifiers?
[03:01] <JoeR1> yes, I suppose I do IntuitiveNipple
[03:02] <IntuitiveNipple> JoeR1: I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing, but check out (from a terminal) "man date" and look at the FORMAT section
[03:04] <cronie2285> wilee-nilee: thanks, for the link, got some improvements now!
[03:06] <JoeR1> perfect, that you IntuitiveNipple
[03:07] <mkquist> anyone know why open gl would not be enabled?
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> cronie2285, cool
[03:08] <theadmin> mkquist: Video drivers?
[03:09] <pr0ndigy> IntuitiveNipple: got the image of the screen when it fails
[03:09] <IntuitiveNipple> pr0ndigy: fab... can you post it to http://imagebin.org ?
[03:09] <pr0ndigy> IntuitiveNipple: http://imagebin.org/223477
[03:09] <theadmin> Speaking of those, can anyone help with uber-slow 2D with fglrx? 3D graphics work great, but various elementary 2D stuff such as a fade in or such is slow
[03:09] <cronie2285> do you know if yum works with ubuntu?
[03:09] <theadmin> cronie2285: No, and never will. It's for Fedora only.
[03:10] <theadmin> Well and Redhat stuff
[03:10] <cronie2285> theadmin: thanks
[03:10] <cronie2285> Im used to fedora, but it's been getting harder to use lately.
[03:10] <IntuitiveNipple> pr0ndigy: Could be 2 bits of good news there. I have a question. Was that error caused when you booted using the edited "linux" line which included "init=/bin/bash"  ?
[03:10] <icecube45> okay guys, my dell mini with ubuntu will not charge the battery, claiming it is not present, i get an error at startup telling me it is not recognized.... I used terminal and checked that it is in fact present
[03:11] <theadmin> cronie2285: Eh. APT is fairly easy to learn, most of yum commands will be translated to apt commands identically, yum install = apt-get install, yum remove = apt-get remove... The only r real important exception is "yum update" which translates to "apt-get update;apt-get upgrade"
[03:11] <pr0ndigy> IntuitiveNipple: yes, that is including the changes you asked me to make
[03:12] <Joe__> I am brand new to ubuntu and I tried using it today but for some reason my internet connection was terrible the whole time and after a while it gave me an Internal error does what can I do to fix it?
[03:12] <icecube45> Joe_ may just be your internet acting up
[03:12] <cronie2285> theadmin: okay, it's coming back to me, fedora used to use it years ago.
[03:12] <IntuitiveNipple> pr0ndigy: OK, just making sure... I didn't expect to see the line "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ..." but I see bash is mentioned... give me a few minutes to research that for you
[03:12] <icecube45> anyone on my battry problem?
[03:12] <pr0ndigy> IntuitiveNipple: ok thx
[03:13] <theadmin> cronie2285: Really? Fedora used APT?
[03:13] <Joe__> It is fine now that I am on windows again but what about the internal error do I have to re download or what?
[03:13] <cronie2285> yeah, they switched to yum a while back.
[03:13] <GoatCheese> I am really new to linux, what is the best tut out there?
[03:13] <icecube45> GoatCheese: i recommend utube
[03:13] <theadmin> GoatCheese: The best is learning by yourself. And honestly, Ubuntu is so easy that you don't need *any* tutorial to learn it.
[03:14] <xangua> !manual | GoatCheese
[03:14] <GoatCheese> Thanks!
[03:14] <cronie2285> theadmin: I thought maybe the repos would interchange somehow.
[03:15] <louiemat> ha all- what is the easiest back up program for Ubuntu 12.04 - and the easiest to set up
[03:16] <icecube45> no answer to my battery problem?
[03:16] <theadmin> louiemat: Deja Dup comes with Ubuntu (and if not, it's in the repos), and is fairly good
[03:16] <icecube45> okay guys, my dell mini with ubuntu will not charge the battery, claiming it is not present, i get an error at startup telling me it is not recognized.... I used terminal and checked that it is in fact present
[03:17] <L3top> icecube45: There is only one battery correct?
[03:17] <icecube45> yes L3top
[03:17] <louiemat> I attemped ro set that one up and it said the data exceded
[03:18] <IntuitiveNipple> pr0ndigy: Could you try again... repeat all the same steps but this time put the "init=/bin/bash" at the very end of the "linux..." line after nomodeset and anything else?
[03:18] <L3top> please pastebin the output of cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
[03:18] <icecube45> l3top: ill brb, then ill do that
[03:18] <louiemat> theadmin- how would you set it up
[03:19] <theadmin> louiemat: ...simply install it and run? You'll figure it out.
[03:19] <pr0ndigy> IntuitiveNipple: remove the recovery text too?
[03:20] <IntuitiveNipple> pr0ndigy: Yes please... the reason being, I realised that when bash was started with arguments... it tried to launch those arguments (nomodeset) as a program and then exited... so it WOULD crash!
[03:20] <IntuitiveNipple> pr0ndigy: So do the same... replace recovery with single
[03:20] <louiemat> theadmin-I'm a newbe I hope I can
[03:21] <theadmin> IntuitiveNipple: An emergency shell recovery line should looks simply like "kernel /vmlinuz rw init=/bin/bash"
[03:21] <theadmin> pr0ndigy: ^
[03:22] <maicod> hi if I want to backup partitions (so also the partition structure and not only tarballing the files) what is a good app?
[03:22] <theadmin> maicod: dd
[03:23] <IntuitiveNipple> theadmin: I want him to have the initrd there if this works
[03:23] <maicod> theadmin: I used it but I need to calculate myself how far the count is going (cause not all of the hdd is used by partitions)
[03:23] <pr0ndigy> IntuitiveNipple: ok trying now. here is what my GRUB looks like http://imagebin.org/223479
[03:23] <maicod> I'd rather have a gui backup program
[03:23] <theadmin> IntuitiveNipple: Well, the initrd line comes after the kernel line anyway -- that's the only thing you need on the *kernel* line.
[03:23] <luftikuss> What is a "DE mess" as in http://clipit.rspwn.com/ ?
[03:23]  * maicod knows dd :)
[03:24] <theadmin> maicod: Well, there is CloneZilla, but that's a livecd
[03:24] <maicod> thats fine !
[03:24] <maicod> I just boot it in my vmware
[03:24] <IdleOne> luftikuss: DE stands for Desktop Environment
[03:24] <maicod> thanks
[03:24]  * L3top hearts clonezilla
[03:24] <maicod> hehe
[03:24] <luftikuss> IdleOne, Thank you verymuch for your help.
[03:24] <IntuitiveNipple> pr0ndigy: That looks good
[03:25]  * maicod tried acronis (windows) first but its too dumb and doesnt know ext4 :)
[03:25] <L3top> maicod: the partition cannot be mounted
[03:25] <L3top> maicod: partition or disk
[03:25] <L3top> if cloning an entire disk
[03:25] <cronie2285> maicod: luckyBackup is a great gui app.
[03:25] <maicod> L3top: Its not mounted when I back it up don't worry :)
[03:26] <maicod> thanks cronie
[03:26] <pr0ndigy> IntuitiveNipple: it seems stuck, no flashing capslock light, but it's not doing anything else
[03:26] <theadmin> Feck it, I'm getting another IRC client >.< I'll brb
[03:27] <icecube45> L3top: both of them tell me no such file or directory
[03:28] <L3top> ls /proc/acpi/battery
[03:28] <icecube45> BAT1
[03:28] <L3top> there ya go :)
[03:28] <icecube45> ?
[03:28] <icecube45> thats my problem?
[03:29] <L3top> no icecube45... please pastebin the output of cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/info /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state
[03:29] <icecube45> o, kk
[03:29] <icecube45> gonna have 2 sudo it
[03:29] <L3top> sorry yes.
[03:29] <Belial> anyone running xorg edgers ppa know if the bug if fixed where the icons in the launcher weren't showing up?
[03:29] <cronie2285> maicod: btw, it uses the fast efficient rsync protocol.
[03:29] <icecube45> l3top, nano those?
[03:30] <L3top> No
[03:30] <L3top> I need to see them
[03:30] <icecube45> um
[03:30] <maicod> cronie: does it backup the partition structures ?
[03:30] <icecube45> command not found
[03:30] <icecube45> cat them right?
[03:30] <L3top> !pastebin | icecube45
[03:30] <icecube45> L3top: i know that
[03:31] <icecube45> L3top: i just typed it wrong XD
[03:31] <cronie2285> yeah, its on my fedora box, but ubuntu has it too
[03:31] <kristenbb> when using pushd and popd in a script, can I prevent it from writting anything to the output screen?
[03:31] <cronie2285> it does partions nicely.
[03:32] <icecube45> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1131862/
[03:32] <maicod> cronie: ok thanks will try it out
[03:32] <theadmin> Ah there we go, this is somewhat better
[03:32] <maicod> wb theadmin
[03:34] <maicod> cronie: can it backup the MBR too ?
[03:36] <icecube45|phone> L3top: away from my comp atm, u see the paste?
[03:37] <icecube45|phone> L3top?
[03:38] <L3top> yes
[03:38] <icecube45|phone> See my paste?
[03:38] <cronie2285> maicod: im checking, hang on.
[03:39] <L3top> sorry icecube45. I am having a problem on my end with DNS. Yes I saw the paste. This looks like a dead battery.
[03:39] <maicod> cronie:OK
[03:39] <icecube45|phone> I checked tho, it told me my battery had max cap yesterday
[03:40] <L3top> icecube45: remaining capacity:      0 mAh
[03:40] <L3top> icecube45: charging state:          charged
[03:40] <icecube45|phone> Yesterday it told me max
[03:40] <L3top> what told you max?
[03:41] <icecube45|phone> Same command
[03:41] <icecube45|phone> I was googling
[03:41] <L3top> max isnt what it returns icecube45|phone. It gives you mAh
[03:42] <icecube45|phone> Yes i know....
[03:42] <L3top> for instance remaining capacity:      6496 mAh     is mine icecube45|phone
[03:42] <icecube45|phone> It was around that tho..
[03:42] <L3top> icecube45|phone: what you are saying doesnt make sense.
[03:42] <icecube45|phone> Sorry, im a bad explainer
[03:43] <icecube45|phone> Whatever, ill try 2 get a new bat
[03:43] <cronie2285> maicod: http://luckybackup.sourceforge.net/   http://rsync.samba.org/
[03:43] <icecube45|phone> Cya
[03:43] <icecube45|phone> Thanks
[03:45] <maicod> cronie2285:thanks !
[03:56] <danny> hello was wondering if someone could help me chance open gl to the default on warcraft three i found this web site and under running slow its telling me to swicth ithttp://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3126 so tell me if u understand what the site wants me to do
[03:57] <IdleOne> danny: #winehq can help you
[03:58] <theadmin> Is there a reason why sound in Ubuntu is, like... *incredibly* loud when at max volume? No other OS exhibits such noise, but I never tested with pulseaudio, could that be it?
[03:58] <QubitSmuggler> good night nerds
[03:59] <kevin> hi all. does anybody know what causes this type of error? every now and then my usb devices stop working and replugging them back in does nothing: https://gist.github.com/3270000
[03:59] <maicod> hacker ?
[04:00] <maicod> scriptkiddie
[04:02] <keith> anyone know how to make mysql start earlier?
[04:02] <keith> does upstart even support anything like that?
[04:06] <mxgpode_> hi
[04:07] <FuriousScissors> oi
[04:08] <zamn> hey how can i get java applets to work in ubuntu? I have java 7 sdk installed already
[04:08] <theadmin> zamn: that's not what you need, you need icedtea-7-plugin or icedtea-6-plugin
[04:09] <theadmin> zamn: The SDK is for developers, and that's going too far
[04:09] <zamn> theadmin: i do develop in java so the sdk is good for me. was just throwing that out there heh
[04:09] <joejc> how do i check how much memory my graphics card has?
[04:11] <maicod> do I need to install .deb with apt-get too?
[04:11] <theadmin> joejc: grep -i memory /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:11] <theadmin> maicod: No, use gdebi or dpkg
[04:11] <maicod> theadmin: OK
[04:11] <maicod> thx
[04:11] <luftikuss> theadmin, My maximum sound level in Ubuntu 12.04is not »incredibly« loud but rather normal.
[04:13] <theadmin> luftikuss: Well, I'm on Kubuntu 12.04 here and it's louder than elsewhere. It's not too loud, it's acceptable and sounds fairly good, but way louder than it was in, say, Arch.
[04:14] <IntuitiveNipple> theadmin: pr0ndigy problem is in the 12.04 release notes: the Dell XPS 1340 has an onboard infra-red receiver and its driver needs blacklisting (ite_cir) until a later kernel is installed with the fixed driver module
[04:14] <theadmin> Well that would be incredibly simple, just dump a /etc/modprobe.d/its.conf with "blacklist ite_cir"
[04:14] <theadmin> Don't even have to boot
[04:15] <theadmin> Or, boot with ite_cir.blacklist=yes
[04:15] <IntuitiveNipple> theadmin: Which is what we've done
[04:16] <theadmin> IntuitiveNipple: Oh.
[04:17] <c_nick> Hey can someone do me a favor ?
[04:17] <IntuitiveNipple> theadmin: useful info in case anyone else reports the same issue
[04:17] <c_nick> i need an MP3 song but because its blocked i need someone to download and mail to me :D
[04:17] <theadmin> IntuitiveNipple: Not that I'd remember
[04:18] <theadmin> c_nick: Offtopic here, but PM me
[04:18] <c_nick> ok
[04:19] <IntuitiveNipple> theadmin: this channel is logged... a Google search might well bring it up for someone else in the future
[04:20] <theadmin> IntuitiveNipple: Ah, indeed.
[04:20] <IntuitiveNipple> I've benefited from that in the past, saved hours of messing about
[04:21] <Treaver> Can anyone tell me how to get Netflix on Ubuntu?
[04:21] <theadmin> Treaver: Divide by 0. (It's impossible)
[04:21] <jiohdi_> Treaver, can't be done because of that DMR thing silverlight has it  moonlight not so much
[04:22] <jiohdi_> however  oddly enough you can get it on android
[04:22] <kingston>  /join #piratenpartei
[04:23] <Treaver> Can someone tell me a site I can watch movies on Ubuntu because I have subscription to Netflix but can't use it :(
[04:23] <jiohdi_> movie2k.to
[04:23] <kingston> pardon. that was a mistake
[04:24] <jiohdi_> not sure of the legalities though
[04:24] <IntuitiveNipple> Treaver: You should be able to do it from a Virtual Machine with Windows and IE9/Silverlight installed
[04:25] <Treaver> thanks
[04:26] <IntuitiveNipple> Treaver: I found this: http://code.johnpbloch.com/2012/03/how-to-watch-netflix-instant-on-ubuntu/
[04:29] <luftikuss> theadmin, I am using GNOME Shell 3.4 and cannot confirm your Kubuntu findings.
[04:30] <theadmin> luftikuss: I see
[04:32] <L3top> theadmin: I am running kubuntu 1204 and do not have this issue.
[04:32] <theadmin> L3top: Hm, okay... I dunno then.
[04:32] <L3top> theadmin: in fact on this laptop I have 1004 and 1204, and they are the same.
[04:32] <theadmin> L3top: Um, they're not the same... But I get what you mean :D
[04:32] <L3top> equivelant volume I meant ;P
[04:33] <InferiorHumanOrg> i know this isnt really ubuntu related but can someone answer some hex edit questions for me? I need an expert
[04:34] <danny_> so ive done a lil more research cause no one knows how to change warcraft to run with open gl and i found this command env WINEPREFIX="/home/<yourname>/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\Warcraft III\Frozen Throne.exe" -opengl but it now says it cannot find it i am running kubuntu 12.04 with the newest version of wine
[04:35] <jiohdi_> the c directory is under .wine directory
[04:35] <_skpl> can someone help me? when i click on an app in the launcher it doesnt show up, running apps i mean, they wont fopcus
[04:36] <theadmin> danny_: Wrong slashes.
[04:36] <theadmin> danny_: Not "C:\Program Files\..." but "C:/Program Files/"...
[04:36] <danny_> theadmin: ok ill give her a shot
[04:36] <jiohdi_> _skpl if you type the name into a temrinal it will tell you why it does not open
[04:37] <aaas> any way to stream some flash content (justin.tv) over the network from a server ....i was thinking ov vlc but vlc doesn't start over a remote connection (x2go)?
[04:37] <n2diy> what all do I need to watch youtube? I installed restricted extras, but I'm still getting missing plug in messages?
[04:38] <theadmin> n2diy: You just need the flash plugin really, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[04:39] <danny_> theadmin: still didnt work any other suggestions ?
[04:39] <theadmin> danny_: Well, wine isn't supported here anyway, go to #winehq and ask them. Don't expect Windows apps to work well. They won't.
[04:40] <bfig> hello, i'm having trouble with alsa and my mic. i believe the computer cries at the fact that i have hdmi output too, so it appears as if i had two cards. any ideas about what could be going on?
[04:41] <aaas> bfig i think you can run gnome-alsaconfig and disable the other one
[04:41] <aaas> bfig there are ways to disable hdmi i just don't remember how... have to mess with some /etc files google disabling hdmi 12.04 or something like that
[04:41] <bfig> i don't have gnome-alsaconfig
[04:41] <aaas> bfig install it with apt-get
[04:41] <bfig> aaas, but the thing is this, i dont' know if this is the problem. do you have an intuition that it is?
[04:41] <n2diy> theadmin, ok, but is that going to give me conflicts with shockwave flash?
[04:42] <theadmin> n2diy: Uh, it *is* Shockwave (or, rather, Adobe) Flash
[04:42] <aaas> bfig hmmm
[04:42] <david_chen> anyone play Trine2 on ubuntu12.04？I have installed it ,but it can't run
[04:42] <aaas> bfig i know i've had problems with that before too, but i'm not certain either
[04:43] <aaas> bfig but if you don't use hdmi you can disable it to make sure
[04:43] <bfig> how could i test and make sure it was that or at least rule out other alternative problems? i'm convinced 1)the mic hardware works, 2) alsa is not configured correctly
[04:43] <n2diy> theadmin, ok, I'll give t a try,  thanks.
[04:43] <bfig> i use hdmi some times, so i would ideally prefer to avoid that option
[04:43] <aaas> bfig in dealing with these problems if you don't have any log errors or errors to help you along the way the only real thing you can do is try things to get more info
[04:44] <bfig> well, i know i can't do arecord
[04:44] <aaas> bfig if you disable hdmi and it works great, if not at least you know it's not that
[04:44] <bfig> yes, you're right
[04:44] <aaas> bfig your monitor doesn' have a builtin mic does it?
[04:45] <bfig> it's a laptop
[04:46] <bfig> so it's everything built in
[04:46] <aaas> bfig ah, what makes you think it's hdmi then, do you have something plugged into hdmi?
[04:47] <L3top> bfig: can I see the output of sudo aplay -l
[04:47] <L3top> bfig: in a pastebin please
[04:47] <m1chael> hello, does anyone knows how to disable gnome alert sounds from terminal and not from sound control panel. backspace sound in nautilus is annoying and i wish to stop it. the reason why not to useing sound panel is that i don't use pulseaudio so without it it can't mute it from there.
[04:48] <bfig> sure, one second
[04:48] <bfig> aaas, well, it doesn't show anything... and i have hdmi sound whenever i connect the hdmi port...
[04:49] <aaas> bfig ah it was gnome-alsamixer if you want to disable hdmi (i think it will let you disable)
[04:49] <bfig> http://hpaste.org/72674 L3top
[04:51] <L3top> bfig:  you have exactly what you are supposed to... a digital and an analog "card".
[04:51] <L3top> What is the actual problem... perhaps I missed it
[04:51] <bfig> my mic is not working
[04:51] <L3top> ah...
[04:51] <BullittEV> after editing grub, changing "quiet splash" to "text" for the boot to a CLI, when i use the startx command, it starts a GUI but its not fluxbox (what i have set) and not anything actually, just allows me to open a folder and look through files
[04:51] <BullittEV> is startx not the correct command? (I've only used slackware in the past)
[04:52] <theadmin> BullittEV: Write an .xinitrc and use xinit.
[04:52] <theadmin> BullittEV: Simpliest way I can think of
[04:52] <bfig> i am running debian 64 bit, i installed the 32 bit alsa lib and it worked for a while, then stopped working again
[04:52] <bfig> now, about that debian thing... it should be the same :p
[04:52] <theadmin> bfig: #debian :/
[04:52] <BullittEV> theadmin is a bot?
[04:52] <bfig> doubt it, he answered too slow :p
[04:52] <theadmin> bfig: Do y ou have any ideas how much difference in software versions is between Debian Stable and Ubuntu? TOO much to handle.
[04:52] <BullittEV> lol not sure if he is right
[04:52] <L3top> bfig: This is a common complaint on laptops. Mine probably doesnt work either. In a terminal open alsamixer    make sure that your mic volume is not muted, and that it is at an appropriate level in firstly.
[04:53] <theadmin> BullittEV: I'm not a bot.
[04:53] <BullittEV> oh ok
[04:53] <BullittEV> i remember getting an answer from a bot the other day so wasn't sure.
[04:53] <theadmin> BullittEV: The only bot that talks here is ubottu
[04:53] <bfig> mic volume is not muted
[04:53] <BullittEV> ahh ok
[04:53] <bfig> i spent a good five or so hours touching alsabase.conf and playing with the mixer
[04:54] <BullittEV> theadmin: do you know the name of the file that allowed me to change to text mode? wanted to change it back to normal.
[04:54] <bfig> with help from somebody at #debian
[04:54] <L3top> bfig: Good luck then. Afraid that that is where you will ahve to return. Debian is not supported here.
[04:54] <theadmin> BullittEV: Uh, GRUB configs are normally in /etc/default/grub, and the line you're looking for should start with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[04:54] <theadmin> BullittEV: Make sure to run update-grub after saving it
[04:54] <m1chael> hello, does anyone knows how to disable gnome alert sounds from terminal and not from sound control panel. backspace sound in nautilus is annoying and i wish to stop it. the reason why not to useing sound panel is that i don't use pulseaudio so without it it can't mute it from there.
[04:54] <BullittEV> theadmin: yes, that's right, thanks.
[04:54] <Tm_T> bfig: hi, this is not debian support channel (:
[04:55] <bfig> but this problem should be the same in both
[04:55] <bfig> the problem is already omre or less isolated: alsamixer configuration
[04:55] <aaas> bfig are you running debian or ubuntu?
[04:55] <bfig> and debian is like 90% ubuntu anyway
[04:55] <theadmin> bfig: You have NO idea how wrong you are.
[04:55] <BullittEV> theadmin: also, would you use that file to set the boot into text? then write an xinit for fluxbox ?
[04:55] <Tm_T> bfig: hi, this is not debian support channel (: (I don't like repeating though)
[04:55] <bfig> would you say how sound works is really different theadmin ?
[04:56] <theadmin> BullittEV: I'd use that file to set boot to text, then use Qingy (a CLI-based login manager) :P
[04:56] <L3top> bfig:  it is not supported. It is not supported for reasons you clearly do not understand... but your willingness to accept that notwithstanding... this is an unsupported distribution, and you are going offtopic.
[04:56] <bfig> just forget that i said debian, think about ubuntu 64 bits
[04:56] <Tm_T> bfig: also let's continue this discussion some other channel than this, thanks
[04:56] <bfig> which channel do you suggest?
[04:56] <L3top> !debian
[04:56] <theadmin> bfig: #debian
[04:57] <bfig> theadmin, i don't see you there
[04:57] <silverarrow> what is default DVD / video player in 12.04?
[04:58] <theadmin> bfig: I ain't there, but that's where you ask Debian stuff.
[04:58] <theadmin> silverarrow: Totem
[04:59] <bfig> ahh.. whatever >_>
[04:59] <aaas> bfig i can *try* and help
[04:59] <bfig> thanks for the ideas anyway
[04:59] <aaas> bfig ill msg you
[04:59] <silverarrow> theadmin, thanks
[04:59] <Tm_T> bfig: #ubuntu is busy channel already enough, so let's not have any offtopic chatter here please, you can try discussing the difference about ubuntu and debian on #ubuntu-offtopic for example
[05:00] <bfig> ok, well, thanks everyone who tried to help, i'll go back to #debian
[05:12] <striker10> hi there everyone!
[05:16] <caixa> ubuntu = king
[05:18] <kukulambar> caixa: i use ubuntu since version 5 :-)
[05:20] <mrgenixu1> i'd like to install nvidia-96 (I have an mx440) but there is a blocking package I don't recognize
[05:21] <mrgenixu1> xorg-video-abi-10 is the blocking package
[05:21] <mrgenixu1> it seems xorg-video-abi-10 is unavailable
[05:22] <cfhowlett> mrgenixu1: apt-cache policy shows installed/candidate: none
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> 7 mins to touchdown mars lander http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
[05:23] <xiambax> http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/nasatv/
[05:23] <mrgenixu1> so, the package doesn't exist? -> I can't have nvidia-96 because it depends on non-existent packages?
[05:23] <xiambax> :D
[05:24] <cfhowlett> mrgenixu1: doesn't seem to exist *in ubuntu repositories*.
[05:24] <theadmin> mrgenixu1: Do you have the restricted repo enabled?
[05:24] <mrgenixu1> cfhowlett: xrog/gtk/gnome/unity runs like crap without the driver; I've got to find a way to make this work.  Any ideas would be a huge help
[05:25] <Gyro54> Hi!
[05:25] <mrgenixu1> theadmin: how do I check for restricted repos
[05:25] <theadmin> mrgenixu1: You normally just install "nvidia-current" to get NVidia stuff running.
[05:25] <theadmin> mrgenixu1: Specific versions may depend on stuff that's already missing...
[05:25] <mrgenixu1> ah, but nvidia-current is not compat with my hw ( theadmin )
[05:25] <theadmin> mrgenixu1: Hm...
[05:25] <mrgenixu1> I need pre-legacy
[05:26] <mrgenixu1> theadmin: but how do I check for the restricted repo?
[05:26] <theadmin> mrgenixu1: Never mind. I have the same issue, I have all the repos enabled. Seems your only option is to contact the repo mantainers.
[05:27] <mrgenixu1> .... theadmin ...
[05:27] <mrgenixu1> I've been around linux for a long time, but I have no idea how to do that
[05:27] <theadmin> mrgenixu1: Meh, me neither :D
[05:28] <theadmin> mrgenixu1: Maybe you can just get the driver off nvidia.com somehow?
[05:28] <mrgenixu1> yeah, that's great, but I don't maintain the system; I need a package or the driver will have to be run manually after every kernel change
[05:28] <mrgenixu1> I have several large, sharp sticks here
[05:28] <mrgenixu1> I can probably put them in my eye
[05:28] <medajke> hi
[05:29] <mrgenixu1> medajke: hi -- back
[05:29] <cfhowlett> medajke: greetings
[05:29] <mrgenixu1> its official; I want to slap nvidia for doing this. I've no doubt its their fault
[05:29] <medajke> It's my first time here
[05:29] <medajke> never use ubuntu early
[05:30] <theadmin> mrgenixu1: No, it's the Ubuntu repo mantainers' fault in this case.
[05:30] <medajke> can U help me
[05:30] <theadmin> mrgenixu1: NVidia are far better than AMD, trust me.
[05:30] <cfhowlett> medajke: welcome.  this is the support channel.  Have you a specific ubuntu problem?  please state issue?
[05:30] <theadmin> medajke: Just ask the questions.
[05:30] <mrgenixu1> theadmin: oh, preachin' to the choir
[05:30] <mrgenixu1> medajke: I'm pretty sure I can't help
[05:30] <medajke> how I can to install wine for my ubuntu 12.04
[05:30] <mrgenixu1> wine has a great guide on their site
[05:30] <theadmin> medajke: Simple! Open the Software Center, search for Wine, install it
[05:31] <DarkAceZ> error: file not found. Grub rescue:
[05:31] <cfhowlett> medajke: best method is software center
[05:31] <DarkAceZ> now what?
[05:31] <DarkAceZ> on boot, or, before boot.
[05:31] <DarkAceZ> Ubuntu 12.04, or, it used to be.
[05:31] <theadmin> DarkAceZ: Seems like you're missing a kernel image.
[05:31] <mrgenixu1> DarkAceZ:  sounds like your grub isn't installed to wher it was, or it got deleted
[05:31] <medajke> I can't like that's from Software center... some problems ((
[05:31] <mrgenixu1> medajke: I'm pretty sure wine has a great guide on their site: http://winehq.com
[05:32] <theadmin> medajke: Oh, okay, then open a terminal, type "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo apt-get install wine".
[05:32] <DarkAceZ> this is now what my laptop's OS looks like: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22806246/Screencaps/OS12041.png
[05:32] <mrgenixu1> IIRC, they have a seperate repo they distribute from
[05:32] <cfhowlett> paste
[05:32] <cfhowlett> !paste
[05:32] <theadmin> mrgenixu1: Wine only has official repos for fairly old Ubuntu versions, wine is in the official Ubuntu archives now.
[05:32] <medajke> ok wait theadmin
[05:32] <DarkAceZ> theadmin, mrgenixu1, so, reinstall the whole OS?
[05:32] <mrgenixu1> theadmin: AWESOME!
[05:32] <mrgenixu1> theadmin: no.
[05:32] <cfhowlett> DarkAceZ: use imagebin.org to paste images.
[05:33] <mrgenixu1> er XD nvm theadmin |  DarkAceZ you need a livecd
[05:33] <mrgenixu1> you should be able to repair grub
[05:33] <theadmin> Ohwait, seems like winehq.org mantainers woke up and made repos for Precise
[05:33] <theadmin> But still, the official repos' wine is just fine
[05:35] <mrgenixu1> XD -- connection oddness -- DarkAceZ , you can probably save your install
[05:35] <mrgenixu1> DarkAceZ:  did anything precipitate the issue?
[05:35] <DarkAceZ> mrgenixu1, really? what about all the other data? On my 10.04 OS, it shows what's in that screenshot, but when I "ls /" from grub, it gives me much more, and I only notice that my /home/justin is missing... (My one and only home folder)
[05:35] <Gyro54> I am setting up a new 12.04 install to use as a clone for all our office machines. Is it best to use root as the original user name?
[05:36] <mrgenixu1> likely, your home folder is in an unmounted (and seperate) partition
[05:36] <cfhowlett> DarkAceZ: agree that your data is likely still there.  don't despair.  do a grub recovery
[05:36] <DarkAceZ> so,most likely none of my data is gone?
[05:36] <DarkAceZ> ah
[05:37] <cfhowlett> DarkAceZ: first rule of ubuntu - chill out.
[05:37] <DarkAceZ> Okay, get the disc to recover?
[05:37] <mrgenixu1> DarkAceZ: yeah
[05:37] <wad> Is anyone paying attention to the Mars landing? Did it land?
[05:37] <DarkAceZ> :P
[05:37] <theadmin> wad: Offtopic.
[05:37] <cfhowlett> wad: off topic
[05:37] <cfhowlett> !ot|wad
[05:37] <dumbguy> can somebody please tell me how do i drop to command line in lubuntu
[05:37] <Pici> wad: we're discussing it in -ot
[05:37] <mrgenixu1> 'drop' ?? dumbguy
[05:38] <cfhowlett> dumbguy: you mean start a terminal?
[05:38] <theadmin> dumbguy: Do you want to boot into a text-only session?
[05:38] <mrgenixu1> dumbguy: I think you want to either run an term or ctrl+alt+f1
[05:38] <dumbguy> yes
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> wad, yep showing images of mars on nasa
[05:38] <Relondo> dumbguy: If you mean a drop-down terminal, there's a great application called Guake in the software center.
[05:38] <DarkAceZ> but why is very little random bits of my data showing in 10.04?
[05:38] <dumbguy> boot to commandline interface
[05:38] <theadmin> !text | dumbguy
[05:38] <vvpalin> io is the hardest thing to master i swear
[05:38] <DarkAceZ> when mounted in my 10.04*
[05:39] <mrgenixu1> DarkAceZ: its hard to say, without seeing the system
[05:39] <Gyro54> dumbguy: ctr, alt, T
[05:39] <mrgenixu1> DarkAceZ: don't focus on that
[05:39] <mrgenixu1> DarkAceZ: just focus on getting the system booting
[05:39] <cfhowlett> DarkAceZ: one issue at a time.  First fix the grub so you can boot...
[05:39] <vvpalin> wilee-nilee, where are pictures ?
[05:39] <DarkAceZ> okay, I'll get, and boot from the disc then.
[05:39] <dumbguy> ubottu thanks i will try that
[05:40] <icecube45> XD
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html vvpalin
[05:40] <icecube45> Ikr :D
[05:40] <icecube45> first picture :D
[05:40] <icecube45> of a wheel...
[05:41] <vvpalin> it made it thats all that matters
[05:41] <icecube45> Yes i know
[05:41] <icecube45> :D
[05:41] <icecube45> time to reloase the cables
[05:41] <icecube45> actually
[05:41] <icecube45> it has touched
[05:41] <icecube45> hasnt made it yet
[05:42] <theadmin> Stop with the mars stuff everyone, THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR IT.
[05:42] <Relondo> Is there any reason why Cinnamon would be VERY slow on Ubuntu 12.04?
[05:42] <theadmin> Relondo: Do you have your graphic drivers installed? Cinnamon is very 3D accelerated, so you'll need a decent video card and the official drivers for it.
[05:43] <DarkAceZ> discs, discs, everywhere
[05:44] <mrgenixu1> well, thanks, theadmin, and others, for help; I think I'm going to have to tell my users that the system has passed beyound use as a graphical system, except in a capacity as a hobiest platform
[05:44] <DarkAceZ> might be a while until I find the live CD :P
[05:44] <Relondo> theadmin: Well, I have two laptops. One is mine, which defaults to Unity but runs Cinnamon just fine, and the other is configured for my younger brother, who I just managed to get to use Linux. His runs Windows XP far better than Cinnamon, and that is scary.
[05:44] <Relondo> theadmin: That extra info was really unnecessary. Sorry about that.
[05:44] <theadmin> Relondo: Well, that doesn't tell me *anything*. Just open the "Additional Drivers" tool and see if your video card drivers can be found there.
[05:44] <cfhowlett> Relondo: same make/model/hardware?
[05:45] <Gyro54> I would like to clone several computers from a master. Should I use "root" as the original user or does it not matter?
[05:46] <Relondo> I definitely need to explain better, sorry. Different models, I was just using mine as an example, in case you were to say it was a 12.04 problem.
[05:46] <theadmin> Gyro54: Ubuntu typically doesn't have a root account enabled.
[05:46] <Relondo> And the older laptop has full driver support.
[05:46] <Raiga> Hello everyone
[05:46] <cfhowlett> !OEM|Gyro54
[05:46] <icecube45> how do i set the default window manager (set it to compiz)?
[05:46] <theadmin> Relondo: Okay look. Go to the laptop where it doesn't work. Open the menu. Find "Additional Drivers". Open the app. Search for videocard related stuff. Activate that.
[05:47] <cfhowlett> Gyro54: maybe the OEM installation might be best?
[05:47] <cfhowlett> Raiga: greetings
[05:47] <Relondo> theadmin: Yep. All the driversare active.
[05:47] <icecube45> anyone?.....     Compiz is so fun :D
[05:48] <theadmin> icecube45: Just make your desktop environment start "compiz --replace" on startup.
[05:48] <Raiga> I just installed Ubuntu (again) and now I think I'll actually take the time to learn how to use it
[05:48] <theadmin> Relondo: Hm, okay... That's... sad. Because I can't think of anything else.
[05:48] <icecube45> theadmin: i did that... i thought there would be a better way
[05:48] <icecube45> theadmin: thanks tho :D
[05:48] <theadmin> icecube45: Might be, lol, I have no idea, depends on your desktop
[05:49] <DebolazW> Raiga: Good choice. :)
[05:49] <icecube45> theadmin: ill search around, thanks
[05:49] <Gyro54> Thanks
[05:49] <icecube45> Ubottu: gotta love you, i know you arnt intellegent..
[05:50] <Relondo> theadmin: Hm. Do any other Desktop Environments feel that similar to Windows?
[05:50] <theadmin> Relondo: Uh. KDE?
[05:50] <cfhowlett> Relondo: depends on which windows you mean.  XP and XFCE are rather similar.  KDE aspires to the Mac-like
[05:51] <icecube45> o quick question, my default menu bar, changed to a different one randomly... what could cause this? it happened after installing compiz, but there are no settings for that
[05:51] <hellyeah> hey
[05:51] <cfhowlett> hellyeah: welcome back
[05:51] <DarkAceZ> !CD
[05:51] <hellyeah> can i ask question about btrfs no one there in btrfs channel
[05:52] <Raiga> Debolazw: Well at first I didn't mind windows, then I had to wipe my hard drive in order to get it back to a usable state (I just rewrote Ubuntu over everything). And I'm in the process of reinstalling and reconfiguring windows. I had to install a bunch of drivers that  Ubuntu didn't even need to begin with, and when I was trying to bulk up on anti-virus and anti-malware, my computer started acting up again. Long story short, it seems as if I j
[05:52] <Raiga> ust actually learn Ubuntu then I'll never run into any problems like that.
[05:52] <bond_> is there a way to know if a process is terminated or not? (i am not talking about child process)
[05:52] <Relondo> theadmin, cfhowlett: I've used KDE before, and it feels very Mac-like to me. LXDE is fast and reminiscent of Windows XP, but very ugly. I will have to look into XFCE.
[05:53] <cfhowlett> Relondo: fyi, the newest xfce will appear in 12.10 but may be available now via PPA
[05:53] <samholmes> I'm running an ubuntu server. How can I change my server's timezone settings to UTC?
[05:53] <IntuitiveNipple> bond_: You can look at the process list using "ps -ef" or do "psgrep <someprocessname>" to look for running instances
[05:53] <cfhowlett> Raiga:  so you want to dual boot windows and ubuntu or ubuntu only?
[05:53] <icecube45> IntuitiveNipple: i use ps x
[05:54] <IntuitiveNipple> bond_: correction... typo... "pgrep <someprocessname>"
[05:54] <theadmin> samholmes: ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC /etc/localtime
[05:54] <Lebby1> IntuitiveNipple: pgrep return process id
[05:54] <Relondo> cfhowlett: Alright. Also, does Linux Mint use the Ubuntu repositories?
[05:54] <bond_> IntuitiveNipple: I need to run three commands, and even if one of the commands terminate i should be notified
[05:54] <theadmin> Relondo: Mint is not supported here.
[05:54] <cfhowlett> !mint|relondo
[05:54] <icecube45> How can i move a window to a different workspace?
[05:55] <theadmin> icecube45: Normally by dragging it to the edge of the current one
[05:55] <Relondo> theadmin, cfhowlett: Yes, I know, just thought one of you might be able to answer the one question...
[05:55] <IntuitiveNipple> bond_: I'd suggest writing a shell script that starts them and reports if they fail
[05:55] <theadmin> Relondo: The answer is "yes".
[05:55] <icecube45> theadmin: doesnt work
[05:55] <Relondo> theadmin: Thanks.
[05:55] <Lebby1> icecube45:  right click on title bar -> move to
[05:55] <Relondo> theadmin, cfhowlett: Well, thanks to both of you for your help. Later.
[05:55] <bond_> IntuitiveNipple: yeah, i know that part. But, how exactly?
[05:55] <icecube45> Lebby1: thanks!
[05:56] <Raiga> cfhowlett: I'm dual booting at the moment, but I might have to reinstall Windows again. But really, I think the next computer that I get, I'll build. And I'll just run a linux distro on it instead of paying for windows. The problem I'm having is now, after installing several antivirus programs and a sandbox utility, I'm not sure where it happened, but I'm getting a lot of issues with my wireless connection and windows network and sharing center
[05:56] <Raiga>  freezes up intermittently
[05:56] <samholmes> how do I check the current timezone?
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Relondo: good luck have fun
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows a solution for corrupt square mouse pointer at first boot?
[05:56] <icecube45> Just throwing stuff out here that i have encountered... Prefix not set on wubi install?
[05:57] <cfhowlett> Raiga: for best results and peace of mind, install windows before ubuntu.  note that the LAST installed OS controls the bootloader and Windows doesn't play nice with other.
[05:57] <cfhowlett> raiga several AV's?  Conflicting permissions would be my guess.
[05:57] <Lebby1> samholmes:  date
[05:58] <Raiga> cfhowlett: That's what I did, and Ubuntu does a nice job of giving a bootload
[05:58] <Raiga> I like the interface :D
[05:58] <samholmes> "Mon Aug  6 07:58:06 CEST 2012" That's not UTC?
[05:58] <IntuitiveNipple> bond_:  use trap. see http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_12_02.html
[05:58] <cfhowlett> Raiga: EXcellent.
[05:59] <Lebby1> samholmes:  cest is utc+1
[05:59] <Raiga> I installed multiple antivirus programs on the recommendation of a friend
[05:59] <Raiga> although I guess sandboxing alone would take care of the problem
[05:59] <cfhowlett> Raiga: AV's on ubuntu?
[05:59] <Raiga> no
[05:59] <Lebby1> samholmes:  i hope but you can verify searching on web
[05:59] <Raiga> windows 7
[05:59] <cfhowlett> Raiga: ok, well, what to say?
[05:59] <samholmes> Lebby1: But I ran theadmin's command which was suppose to change my timezone to UTC
[05:59] <Raiga> I'm not even worried about viruses on ubuntu
[06:00] <Raiga> at the very least, if I actually did get infected, it would take me less than an hour to reinstall
[06:00] <Lebby1> samholmes:  then run: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[06:01] <samholmes> I can't seem to find UTC in that command
[06:01] <samholmes> when I run dpkg-reconfigure
[06:01] <danielcg25> HOLY SHIT
[06:01] <danielcg25> SPACE
[06:02] <Raiga> cfhowlett, really my only question would be, How does code-blocks compare to Visual Studio 2012
[06:02] <Raiga> ?
[06:02] <samholmes> Lebby: Nevermind I found it actually.
[06:02] <Lebby> samholmes:  :)
[06:02] <cfhowlett> Raiga: IDK.
[06:02] <danielcg25> A robot just literally landed on Mars 5 minutes ago.
[06:02] <cfhowlett> !ot|danielcg25 understand you're excited but you're also OT
[06:03] <danielcg25> sorry
[06:03] <Raiga> cfhowlett: hmmm, lol. Oh well, I own a copy of windows, so I'll use it if I must. Otherwise, the Next weeks between now and the start of College will be spent learning hardcore Ubuntu
[06:03] <Lebby> danielcg25:  tnx about info! :D
[06:03] <bond_> IntuitiveNipple: Actually, I have to run three commands in the background. These are processes that continue to execute for a long time. And my requirement is to wait on these processes and if any of them exits, i'll have to run that command again.
[06:03] <danielcg25> NASA.gov
[06:03] <DarkAceZ> cfhowlett, mrgenixu1, you guys going to be on in 5-10 hours? I can't find the disc and I gotta sleep, so I'll download it, and try this tomorrow.
[06:03] <cfhowlett> Raiga: very best of luck.
[06:04] <cfhowlett> DarkAceZ: someone will be here
[06:04] <IntuitiveNipple> bond_: so you want them to automatically respawn
[06:04] <DarkAceZ> but they will know what I was doing?
[06:04] <Raiga> cfhowlett: thanks
[06:04] <cfhowlett> DarkAceZ: pretty sure you can explain, you silver tongued devil, you ...
[06:05] <DarkAceZ> XD
[06:05] <DarkAceZ> okay
[06:05] <DarkAceZ> but not everyone here is willing to help...
[06:05] <cfhowlett> DarkAceZ: faith you must have...
[06:05] <Lebby> DarkAceZ:  don't worry ... one problem at time :)
[06:05] <antonio_> Is there a really good productivity program for ubuntu (timer, notes, etc)?
[06:06] <bond_> IntuitiveNipple: No, I can do it using scripting. The real problem is to wait on all the three processes simultaneosly and resume if any one of them terminate/stop/abort
[06:06] <Lebby> antonio_: what kind of program are you interested?
[06:06] <DarkAceZ> well then, night.
[06:07] <Lebby> DarkAceZ:  sweet dreams!
[06:07] <IntuitiveNipple> bond_: I'd think I'd use trap for SIGEXIT and SIGABORT and other similar signals, and run a command that checks which process has stopped using pgrep and then restart it
[06:07] <antonio_> lebby: I want a kind of alarm to go off every 25 minutes to remind me to take a break...
[06:07] <antonio_> lebby: also if this program had some kind of todo lists would be awesome
[06:07] <Lebby> antonio_:  alarm-clock
[06:07] <Lebby> antonio_:  enjoy!
[06:08] <Lebby> antonio_:  alarm-clock has a list of event
[06:09] <Lebby> antonio_:  if you want something of more complex ... you can use lighting ( related to thundirbird ) or ... Google calendar ... but i thing that for a 25 min alarm, alarm-clock is enough and for a todo list, a sticky note could be more productive !
[06:10] <Lebby> antonio_:  sorry for typo ... :/
[06:10] <IntuitiveNipple> bond_ if you are running the processes in the background you could consider writing an upstart config for them
[06:12] <trune> anyone here speak portuguese?
[06:12] <bond_> InvalidHandle: Can u mention a link for the same?
[06:13] <caixa> trune, a lil
[06:13] <trune> can you read it well caixa?
[06:13] <DebolazW> trune: #ubuntu-pt if you need support in portugese.
[06:13] <trune> ty
[06:13] <caixa> trune, i can speak it fluently, but not the best at reading/writing
[06:14] <trune> just have this question im trying to answer, but google translate is confusing me
[06:14] <caixa> what is it?
[06:14] <trune> ill pm you
[06:14] <caixa> ok
[06:30] <samholmes> I figured out that C-a q C-d is the only way I found out to terminate a screen session
[06:30] <samholmes> is there a way to do it when you aren't in a screen session?
[06:30] <FrankLv> C-a q C-d is detach the screen session, not terminate
[06:31] <Gyro54> Is there an OEM version of the office mix 12.04?
[06:38] <Gyro54> Is the alternate iso the correct choice for an OEM install?
[06:39] <onetwo> hey guys, can someone pls pls help me run league of legends on my kubuntu 12.04?pls
[06:39] <icecube45> quit
[06:39] <onetwo> quit what?
[06:42] <RyanP> yeh
[06:43] <timClicks> slightly n00b Q, but when I SSH into a server and run a command, how can I get the command to continue to run after I exit?
[06:43] <antonio_> has anyone ever used the osmo personal organizer program?
[06:46] <AzzIzzA> timClicks: check out "nohup", "screen" and maybe tmux (?)
[06:46] <timClicks> AzzIzzA: ty
[06:47] <AzzIzzA> oh, and the using "&" for fork a process into the background
[06:47] <highbuzz> Anyone know what could be causing this upon boot? When I boot, this happens: http://i.imgur.com/6PbvE.jpg
[06:47] <highbuzz> it's a fresh install
[06:50] <blazing> how can i get kmail to run in the background so it periodically checks email
[06:50] <AzzIzzA> highbuzz: what do you see before that? do you get the grub menu? the start up text? I'm reasonably sure it is something using incorrect video settings, but not sure whether it would be , grub, X or the framebuffer console
[06:50] <blazing> i dont want to manually open the program at start up,
[06:51] <AzzIzzA> although my first guess would be X
[06:51] <blazing> and i want it to be in the tray
[06:51] <highbuzz> AzzIzzA: I don't see anything, GRUB doesn't even load up. I can't alter the video settings (or I don't know how rather) because it doesn't give me the option. I had to use the alternative CD to even install because this would happen if I tried the liveCD as well
[06:55] <AzzIzzA> highbuzz: ok, out of my league I'm afraid, I'm more of a slackware guy in general. It is strange though, the fact that you don't see grub suggests it is grub that is messing up the display, but I'm fairly sure that the livecd just uses syslinux without grub
[06:56] <AzzIzzA> as a quick and dirty fix, can you replace the graphics card (pref. with one using a different brand of chip)
[06:58] <highbuzz> I don't have another brand of card unfortunately. thanks for answering though! I'll post on the forums tomorrow and see if I can get a work around with the card I have. i've heard nvidia cards sometimes don't like to play nice.. guess that turned out to be true
[06:59] <Raiga> nvidia is the most user friendly card I've personally came across
[07:02] <highbuzz> works fine in windows
[07:02] <highbuzz> they're not that great with linux
[07:05] <peetaur> Some Ubuntu 10 virtual servers in a proxmox KVM virtual host started saying all the passwords expired. But Ubuntu 12 didn't seem to do this. Is this a known problem?
[07:08] <whyohwhy> Hello Everyone! We've upgraded some of our servers to 12.04 recently, and i've noticed that when I run nmap from some other server to check open ports on these 12.04 servers it take WAY longer that before. is this a known issue?
[07:08] <subdesign> how to easly list what apps are installed on my system? after an os reinstall i dont want to miss them
[07:09] <DJones> !cloning | subdesign I think this will give you a text file of what has been installed,
[07:10] <subdesign> omg thats an answer, thx
[07:10] <DJones> subdesign: Heh, your welcome
[07:10] <subdesign> and you were quick too
[07:10] <subdesign> ;P
[07:11] <DJones> Just lucky I saw the question, only just connected
[07:11] <jaymeskeller> Hi all. Quick question. I've updated my GPG key and sent it to the Ubuntu keyserver. What is the ETA on key updates?
[07:12] <IdleOne> jaymeskeller, there is a script that autoruns every ?hour? or so iirc
[07:12] <jaymeskeller> IdleOne, Cool, thanks. :)
[07:13] <subdesign> DJones, one more question, this command makes a list only or collects all apps/files in a dir ?
[07:14] <DJones> subdesign: As far as I know, it just asks the package manager what packages are installed and outputs it to a text file, it doesn't collect the files in a single folder
[07:15] <subdesign> okay thank you
[07:17] <peetaur> whyohwhy: Does nmap -Pn also take longer? are pings blocked?
[07:18] <whyohwhy> peetaur: yep.. i'm running it with that option, it's relay slow, -above 200 sec
[07:19] <peetaur> 200 seconds?? :O
[07:20] <peetaur> and it takes long even if you run nmap from a different OS than 12.04?
[07:23] <peetaur> whyohwhy: I ran a "nmap -Pn hostname" from my openSUSE machine to 3 other servers. Ubuntu 12.04 took 16.558 seconds. FreeBSD 8.3 took 6.745 seconds. Ubuntu 10.04 took 5.563 seconds.
[07:24] <infinityartworx> i have installed netatalk and mounted 2 different hard disks…   if i look at the share from another computer the size of the harddisk is the size of the ubuntu partition only… how can i show the size of the mounted harddisk ??
[07:25] <gvo> sudo fdisk -l will show details on all connected hard drives
[07:25] <gvo> infinityartworx: ^^
[07:26] <timaaarrreee> gvo: sweet
[07:26] <arvislacis> Can anyone suggest me a good web-camera software?
[07:26] <timaaarrreee> arvislacis: cheese
[07:26] <infinityartworx> gvo: when i enter my shared folder it says 20 GB    and the mounted hard drive is 2 TB… so it only shows 20gb of free instead of 2TB
[07:26] <arvislacis> timaaarrreee, Thanks a lot :)
[07:26] <gvo> infinityartworx: Did you do the fdisk -l?
[07:27] <infinityartworx> yeah that is only shown in terminal
[07:27] <infinityartworx> not on my mac
[07:27] <timaaarrreee> arvislacis: you're welcome
[07:27] <gvo> infinityartworx: Are you running Ubuntu on your MAC?
[07:28] <infinityartworx> no i have a server running Ubuntu   and i'm accessing it from my mac
[07:28] <infinityartworx> i got netatalk and avahi  so i can access the files from AFS
[07:29] <jalexandru> Hi, I must be missing a step here I'm trying to set up httpd so I have an index.html file in /var/www/html/index.html I have httpd pid on but the browser give's me connection error
[07:29] <gvo> infinityartworx: connect via ssh and run fdisk.  It'll tell you the partitioning of the drives.
[07:29] <infinityartworx> gvo: buddy i know
[07:29] <jalexandru> anybody has any suggestions where should I start looking for errors? is a new install of os so httpd is brand new
[07:30] <gvo> infinityartworx: So what's the problem?
[07:30] <infinityartworx> gvo: but when i connect thru afs on my mac it only gets the size of the ubuntu partition
[07:30] <infinityartworx> not of the mounts
[07:31] <gvo> infinityartworx: I know nothing about afs but I assume it is similar to nfs.
[07:31] <AzzIzzA> infinityartworx: have you created a 20GB partition for ubuntu and left the rest unpartitioned? and now you want to share the unpartitioned space with the mac?
[07:31] <timaaarrreee> jalexandru: try tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log Or access.log you might need to sudo it to read the logs
[07:32] <gvo> So pastebin the output of fdisk so we can see what it looks like.  AzzIzzA Likely.
[07:32] <jalexandru> timaarrreee thank you for your time, just checked it and it's working on the same machine as the file but it doesn't work in network I'll check the logs and the set up of the network, thank you again.
[07:32] <infinityartworx> AzzIzzA: no. i have a ubuntu server with 50GB partition on Ubuntu.   Then i added 2 extra hard drives and mounted them.  then i've shared the two extra hard drives with netatalk - avahi   but it only shows 20GB free on my mac when i enter them thru AFS
[07:33] <infinityartworx> and i can see the 2 hard drive contents… but it shows the free size of the ubuntu partition only
[07:35] <trijntje> I want to display a very simple static webpage on my internal network. What is the best way to do this?
[07:36] <infinityartworx> i hate the word simple
[07:37] <infinityartworx> if it was simple then you'd had it running
[07:37] <infinityartworx> but try ajenti
[07:37] <jalexandru> trijntje create the html page and save it in /var/www/html as index.html you will be able to browse to it with "host-ip" in the browser
[07:37] <theadmin> trijntje: You need any web server. They all are about equally simple to setup, just search for something lightweight (lighttpd?)
[07:37] <whyohwhy> peetaur: yeah, it is
[07:38] <trijntje> simpel refers to the static webpage infinityartworx
[07:38] <trijntje> jalexandru: I'll try that, thanks!
[07:38] <jalexandru> trijntje you
[07:38] <infinityartworx> trko
[07:38] <infinityartworx> ok
[07:39] <theadmin> trijntje: Ignore jalexandru. That will only work if you already have a web server installed, and none come on the default Ubuntu setup. Install one first.
[07:39] <jalexandru> trijntje you'll also have to install a web server like theadmin mentioned
[07:39] <theadmin> Ah there we go
[07:39] <theadmin> jalexandru: Also, the path is /var/www/, the "html" folder is entirely unnecessary.
[07:40] <trijntje> ah ok, installing lighttpd now, thanks
[07:40] <jalexandru> theadmin still trying to wake up sorry for the wrong info :)
[07:40] <theadmin> jalexandru: No problem, I'm sleepy as well.
[07:42] <timaaarrreee> or you could read all the RFCs and learn the http protocol inside out and write one :)
[07:42] <timaaarrreee> just thought i'd throw that idea in too
[07:42] <theadmin> That'd work too.
[07:42] <trijntje> awsome, it works! Thanks all
[07:42] <trijntje> that would work, but would probably take a bit longer :P
[07:44] <wolfgang_> how do i message some one pm?
[07:44] <wolfgang_> what is command
[07:45] <IdleOne> /msg nickname
[07:46] <gvo> wolfgang_: It is considered rude in some circles to do so without permission.
[07:46] <wolfgang_> ?
[07:46] <wolfgang_> what do you mean?
[07:47] <gvo> Some people do not want pm without you asking them first if it's OK
[07:47] <whyohwhy> does 12.04 auto update packages ? I got rkhunter crying out about all kind of files that are getting changed
[07:47] <wolfgang_> gvo, oh ok, i will keep that in mind. thank you
[07:48] <IdleOne> whyohwhy, it will offer to update but not do it without your permission.
[07:49] <whyohwhy> I am using it remotely only, by ssh, how can I turn off those updates?
[07:50] <IdleOne> whyohwhy, just don't run apt-get upgrade and/or dist-upgrade
[07:51] <IdleOne> whyohwhy, not a very good idea though because you won't be getting any security updates unless either
[07:51] <gvo> whyohwhy: See if you have "unattended-upgrades" package installed
[07:52] <whyohwhy> thanks, i'll check it now
[07:56] <tonvin> It was very slow when using vim -d
[07:57] <Costeelation> hi guys
[07:57] <infinityartworx> lol found it.   I had to mount the two extra hard drives separately to AppleVolumes.default and then had to connect seperatly
[07:58] <Costeelation> i have a problem installin vmware player  in ubuntu 12.04 ther error is
[07:58] <Costeelation> Unable to start services.
[07:58] <Costeelation> See log file /tmp/vmware-root/modconfig-8484.log for details.
[07:58] <Costeelation> any idea?
[07:58] <FloodBot1> Costeelation: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:59] <MonkeyDust> Costeelation  use virtualbox, it's better supported here
[07:59] <Costeelation> :(
[07:59] <gvo> Costeelation: Besides, it's usually faster.
[07:59] <zinwa> actually , virtualbox is not a stable solution.
[07:59] <MonkeyDust> and it's in te repos
[08:00] <Costeelation> i have the virtual disks in format vmware only open with vmware products :(
[08:00] <gvo> zinwa: Other than being owned by Oracle what's not stable?
[08:00] <infinityartworx> gvo: i found the solution
[08:00] <gvo> infinityartworx: Good.  I see that.
[08:00] <infinityartworx> did you understand the problem ? and the solving ?
[08:01] <Kingsy> guys, anyone got some good info on drivers? more specifically the radeon open driver that ships with ubuntu ?
[08:01] <gvo> I care not a hoot about apple but yes.
[08:01] <infinityartworx> ok.. sometimes it's hard to explain the exact problem :) thats why i ask
[08:01] <silverarrow> is it true that there will be no more adobe flash player for ubuntu?
[08:02] <silverarrow> I got a bit worried when I read 11.2 flash player would be the last one for linux in general
[08:02] <Kingsy> no way.. that cant be true
[08:02] <silverarrow> it looks like I will depend on adobe flash at some point,
[08:03] <zinwa> gvo:  i used virtualbox running windows xp for about 2 months, and it crashes several times one day.
[08:03] <DJones> silverarrow: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/250784/for_flash_on_linux_there_are_open_player_alternatives.html
[08:03] <silverarrow> hopefully there will be ways about it
[08:03] <silverarrow> thanks DJones
[08:03] <L3top> Kingsy: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[08:03] <gvo> zinwa:lol I ran xp for a while on my latpop and it crashed often too. ;)
[08:04] <Kingsy> L3top: well kinda, do you use that driver? if so have you noticed that its got really bad performance? I even get jumpy screensavers
[08:04] <PicCard> Freaking adobe killing flash development for Linux now?
[08:04] <infinityartworx> i love the word latpop
[08:04] <infinityartworx> :)
[08:04] <zinwa> gvo:  if crash scenarios not happened, it will be perfect, but i quit.
[08:04] <Kingsy> which surely on a 1GBDDR5 6850 is totally crazy
[08:04] <PicCard> Android support drooped, now Linux.
[08:04] <Kingsy> I should be able to run pretty much anything full resolution..
[08:04] <gvo> infinityartworx: fingers run at different rates...
[08:05] <infinityartworx> gvo: hehehehe
[08:05] <L3top> Kingsy: the open driver is rarely as capable of handling newer high end cards than the proprietary.
[08:05] <silverarrow> DJones, trouble is with sites that stream TV and copyrigh material they are forced to encode, and adobe flash seems to be the only alternative at the point. I suspect they will struggle with html5 for years until it works fine
[08:06] <Kingsy> L3top: do you know much about the AMD proprietary driver? it seems really flakey to me, or is that only because I used the catalyst control center ?
[08:06] <Kingsy> L3top: it was so flakey I binned it
[08:06] <zinwa> X-server crash every day on ubuntu 12.04, what's the schedule for deploying wayland ?
[08:07] <Costeelation> i solved the problem :D
[08:07] <Kingsy> does anyone here use the proprietary amd driver?
[08:08] <L3top> Kingsy: the repository version of the radeon driver may not fully support your card. You can try downloading and installing from ATI.
[08:08] <DuppyWeb> Hi, does anybody know why I cant access apache from localhost but from the Internet I can?
[08:08] <DuppyWeb> Ubutnu 12.04 / Apache 2.2.22
[08:08] <L3top> Kingsy: Stop asking if anybody uses a driver that covers literally hundreds of chipsets.
[08:09] <Kingsy> L3top: I was asking more generically to get a feel if its giving good performance + stability
[08:09] <L3top> !poll | Kingsy
[08:09] <Kingsy> L3top: download it from "ATI" ? is this a resource?
[08:10] <L3top> Kingsy: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[08:10] <zinwa> ubottu, Kingsy :  log
[08:10] <Kingsy> L3top: I am not on the pc right now.. so nm
[08:10] <Kingsy> zinwa: ?
[08:11] <zinwa> ubottu, i do, indeed. :(
[08:11] <L3top> Kingsy: AMD/ATI is the card manufactuerer.
[08:11] <zinwa> Kingsy, just mistake
[08:11] <Kingsy> L3top: ah ok.. so just download the driver from the official site
[08:11] <L3top> well... the chipset manufacterer at least... and the one who MAKES the driver.
[08:12] <L3top> the radeon driver is open source, but cannot always keep up with the  very latest cards.
[08:13] <manata> hello there
[08:13] <Kingsy> L3top: well my card the HD 6850 is pretty old.. but I know what you mean.. I guessed the proprietary driver would be better.. I will give it another go when I get in from work
[08:14] <manata> I have a question about ubuntu system
[08:14] <zinwa> manata, say it:)
[08:14] <manata> Is it possible for example to type in skype in one language and while surfing to use another
[08:15] <manata> like in windows 7
[08:15] <L3top> Kingsy: you cannot simply uninstall fglrx and run radeon btw. You must purge things... reinstall mesa... reconfigure xserver... That is probably at issue currently.
[08:15] <L3top> Kingsy: I would love to help you do all that... but you arent here for support it seems.
[08:15] <manata> let's say I type in russian in skype and use english while surfing
[08:16] <Kingsy> L3top: yeah just here to discuss this really.. I will be on the terminal later tonight if your around?
[08:16] <L3top> This is not the place to discuss things... for future reference. This is a support channel. In the future try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:17] <silverarrow> manata, yes I think there are, not sure about skype, but you can easily control word processor and browser in that sense
[08:17] <zinwa> manata, i think that u mentioned is about input methods configuration, right?
[08:17] <L3top> It is 4 am here Kingsy. I will be gone shortly.
[08:18] <manata> what I mean is now I have to switch layout everytime between applications
[08:18] <silverarrow> manata, if I remember correctly there some plugin for pidgin, it might have both skype and language support
[08:19] <silverarrow> manata, yes, different alphabets are a challenge
[08:19] <Kingsy> ah lol .. wow
[08:19] <manata> I don't have problem with the language support, it is annoying to switch layout everytime between applications
[08:20] <silverarrow> a russian or greek forum would know about this I should think
[08:21] <MonkeyDust> manata you could submit a request at !brainstorm
[08:21] <manata> how?
[08:21] <MonkeyDust> !brainstorm
[08:22] <L3top> Kingsy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-restore-default-video-drivers
[08:25] <manata> thanks for your replays
[08:26] <Kingsy> L3top: wow yeah I didnt do that :P
[08:30] <chenhangwei> ok
[08:32] <AdvoWork> i know I can look in the bash history for a list of commands, but is there anything that goes back even further than that at all? I ran something on a server about a month ago, and i need to remember what I did :p
[08:35] <theadmin> AdvoWork: Well, nothing goes further than ~/.bash_history
[08:36] <ThinkT510> theadmin: unless he has some sort of logging backup system
[08:36] <theadmin> ThinkT510: And what are the chances of that? ;)
[08:36] <ThinkT510> theadmin: slim
[08:37] <theadmin> ThinkT510: Uhm... The login manager?
[08:37] <ThinkT510> theadmin: the chances are slim
[08:37] <theadmin> ThinkT510: Ah, I get it now
[08:43]  * NoFace kalh xronia eutixismeno to neo etos xristos anesth
[08:44] <theadmin> NoFace: English here, please.
[08:44] <DJones> !gr | NoFace
[08:45] <Nikon> meganerd
[08:46] <Nikon> Hi all
[08:47] <meshuggah> heya Nikon, how are ya?
[08:47] <Red_M> oh.. i was gonna do python code then realized that this is #ubuntu
[08:47] <Red_M> sigh
[08:48] <Nikon> Lord nikon is just bein needy at1:46 in the morn
[08:48] <Nikon> Nerdy
[08:48] <meshuggah> damn that i need to pee
[08:49] <ThinkT510> !ot
[08:49] <Nikon> Your funny
[08:49] <peetaur> I have an Ubuntu 10.04.1 machine that I want to upgrade to 10.04.3. What sort of upgrade is that? it's not a dist upgrade... would "aptitude safe-upgrade" do it?
[08:50] <ThinkT510> !dist-upgrade | peetaur
[08:50] <SpaceAviator> while selecting the ubuntu boot media in the BIOS i am give the option to use the normal or UEFI - which one should I pick??
[08:50] <theadmin> peetaur: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:51] <theadmin> SpaceAviator: If you don't know, choose normal.
[08:51] <peetaur> "dist-upgrade" from the apt-* and aptitude is defined as what ubottu said above... but I am asking simply is the "apt safe-upgrade" (similar to full-upgrade, formerly known as dist-upgrade) is what I want.
[08:52] <ThinkT510> peetaur: we are saying dist-upgrade is what you need
[08:52] <peetaur> so rephrased, When I use aptitude dist-upgrade (proper new name is full-upgrade rather than dist-upgrade), will it change the .1 to a .3 in 10.04.1?
[08:53] <ThinkT510> peetaur: why haven't you been updating regularly anyway?
[08:54] <peetaur> okay, then next question: I ran aptitude safe-upgrade, and my ssh client lost connection, the server was no longer pingable, and the local screen was blank. Is this a bug or an intended feature?
[08:54] <peetaur> because I am short manned, and I'm upgrading the oldest things now.
[08:55] <peetaur> before the server hung up, it was just listing things about dependencies and conflicts.
[08:56] <peetaur> and second reason, is this is just a nagios server... nothing needing urgent updates.
[08:57] <peetaur> and third reason, every single time I tried the "do-release-upgrade" thing, it failed horribly, needing a full reinstall to repair dependency problems, missing packages, etc.
[08:57] <peetaur> so upgrading Ubuntu is a hassle
[08:57] <chris|> peetaur, aptitude will not intentionally kill your network
[08:58] <peetaur> it wasn't just the network... the local screen was blank and ctrl+alt+delete did nothing
[08:58] <peetaur> So I'll just try it again.
[08:58] <peetaur> I'll use apt isntead of aptitude this time.
[08:59] <chris|> peetaur, if the machine is unresponsive, then something else is wrong. Try Sysrq
[09:00] <gvo> peetaur: I've been running multiple instances of Ubuntu since 6.??  While once in a while I saw a hickup, Ubuntu updated easily and reliably. Just saying...
[09:01] <peetaur> it updates 'easily and reliably', but afterwards, it spews out conflicts and errors when you try to install things, like the dpkg system is all messed up. I'll fetch you a pastebin of a similar problem on a system (although not caused by do-release-upgrade as far as I know)
[09:01] <gvo> peetaur: Do you use 3rd party repos?
[09:02] <peetaur> Mostly no... but on one such server there was a virtualbox repo.
[09:02] <chris|> Virtualbox on a server? oO
[09:02] <gvo> peetaur: OK that's a mystery then
[09:03] <peetaur> virtualbox does a better job than VMware actually :P
[09:03] <peetaur> and virtualbox is not my main vm platform.
[09:03] <theadmin> chris|: Why not? VirtualBox has a headless way to start stuff, and then you can access it via VNC I think
[09:03] <theadmin> Or RDP or something.
[09:03] <MonkeyDust> but vmware is commercial, so more MainStream
[09:04] <Lorra> Hi everybody! I've had this problem for some time now: whenever I try to use Ubuntu 12.04's default graphical login manager and type in my password and hit the enter key I am sent back to the login screen. I can login with gdm and in text mode of course, so what's wrong with lightdm. It's distro default, so it's a bit of a pity needing to drop it
[09:04] <peetaur> The ONLY issue I've ever had with virtualbox that puts it behind xen, kvm, etc. is that when a virtual disk is on the Linux client NFS and the nfs server goes down, not only that vm fails, but all of vbox hangs and you need to either rescue the NFS server or reboot the vbox host.
[09:04] <peetaur> kvm for example just fails that vm, and everything else runs without a hicup
[09:05] <peetaur> but anyway, I am trying to upgrade some Ubuntu servers... and so far apt-get seems to be better than aptitude for this. It is actually downloading things now.
[09:06] <peetaur> Either that, or stage1: crash and reboot is complete, and I am merely in stage2: install things indexed by stage1
[09:06] <ThinkT510> peetaur: aptitude is no longer shipped by default with ubuntu releases due to multiarch
[09:07] <Lorra> UP
[09:07] <ThinkT510> !aptitude | peetaur
[09:07] <silverghost> ;
[09:08] <silverghost> what is the irc channel of lubuntu
[09:08] <ThinkT510> silverghost: #lubuntu
[09:13] <silverghost> guys i am not getting support of lubuntu
[09:13] <ThinkT510> silverghost: you haven't told us your issue
[09:13] <peetaur> Why not ask here if your question isn't specific to whatever they modified?
[09:14] <silverghost> is this lubuntu 12.04 lts release
[09:15] <ThinkT510> silverghost: 12.04 is lts yes
[09:15] <silverghost> areee i am talking about lubntu
[09:16] <Anomie21> Is there a way to get updates to install automatically at a set time? I know this could be achieved via a cron job (2008 post on ubuntu forums) but I'm wondering if there's a setting I'm overlooking in 12.04
[09:16] <ThinkT510> silverghost: lubuntu uses the same repos as ubuntu, so they are equally supported
[09:16] <gvo> Anomie21: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html
[09:17] <k1l> silverghost: can you rephrase your question pls?
[09:17] <silverghost> is this lubuntu 12.03 lts release wiki says it is not
[09:18] <W4sp> Anomie21: There is no daemon for unattended-upgrades, hence you will need crond for it.
[09:18] <gvo> lubuntu 12.04 is an lts release.
[09:19] <k1l> silverghost: can you link this wiki page?
[09:19] <Anomie21> W4sp: just used 'apt-get install gnome-schedule'
[09:19] <ThinkT510> silverghost: they use the same repos, 12.04 will be supported for 5 years
[09:19] <virato> Hi, all. I'm trying to get Ubuntu Server to connect to the internet as a Guest OS in VirtualBox. Whenever I try to ping my router (192.168.1.1), I get "connect: Network is unreachable".
[09:19] <silverghost> Current version. Unlike Ubuntu this is not a long term support release..
[09:19] <ottoshmidt> is it possible to apt-get remove and break dependency deliberately
[09:19] <ottoshmidt> ?
[09:20] <ottoshmidt> leaving unmet deps temporarily
[09:20] <silverghost> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu
[09:20] <k1l> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu  silverghost
[09:21] <silverghost> why is wiki saying 12.04 lubuntu is not a lts release
[09:22] <gvo> How interesting.
[09:22] <k1l> it is not labled as lts because there is a lack of manpower to maintain the lubuntu specific packages for the 5 years. but all the pakets from the ubuntu-base are maintained for 5 years
[09:22] <ThinkT510> gvo: i concur
[09:22] <silverghost> 12.04 	Precise Pangolin 	26 April 2012 	October 2013 	Current version. Unlike Ubuntu this is not a long term support release.
[09:22] <k1l> silverghost: read the ubuntu-wiki page i just linked
[09:23] <silverghost> it is about lubuntu 12.10
[09:23] <Anomie21> Is there a way to include your root password in the line you type 'sudo' so it doesnt prompt you for a pw?
[09:23] <silverghost> it is about lubuntu 11.10
[09:23] <k1l> silverghost: dont stop reading after the first words :)
[09:23] <gvo> Anomie21: Are you trying to script sudo?
[09:23] <silverghost> i am using 12,04 lubuntu if this is not an lts release i will switch to xubuntu it has 3 yrs support
[09:24] <silverghost> when i ask this question they are not answering in lubuntu irc wtf
[09:24] <Lorra> Anomie21, if you wish you can do multiple commands as root by executing «sudo su»
[09:24] <Anomie21> gvo: Not sure what that means? I'm trying to get a command to run at a scheduled time. But the command I'm using sudo apt-get update --yes && apt-get upgrade --yes requires a password prompt to continue (which I wont be around for)
[09:25] <W4sp> Anomie21: gnome-schedule uses crond as stated. It will use the crontabs to read and write the entries, AFAIK. It will make crond as stated on the page you posted.
[09:25] <Lorra> Anomie21, you can become root with sudo su and then set cron appropriately
[09:25] <silverghost> i need some info abt .rpm vs .deb yum vs apt pls throw some light on this
[09:26] <gvo> Anomie21: The usual fix for that is to either run as root or add apt-get as a command without password in visudo
[09:26] <k1l> silverghost: read the 4th paragraph on the wiki link i posted for the lts issue.
[09:26] <silverghost> no i will ditch lubuntu xubntu has good support i am not happy with lubuntu support
[09:27] <peetaur> silverghost: The info you are requesting would be many pages long, but maybe you would find the tools "alien" and "rpm2cpio" interesting. Try "man alien" for example.
[09:27] <gvo> Anomie21: Are you familiar with the workings of /etc/cron.d/ files?
[09:27] <silverghost> can i use rpm in ubuntu
[09:27] <ThinkT510> silverghost: no, it will likely break stuff
[09:28] <ThinkT510> !rpm | silverghost
[09:28] <W4sp> gnome-schedule is an excellent example for a bloated DE. :-)
[09:28] <silverghost> hey but i have heard u can use .deb in fedora
[09:28] <peetaur> silverghost: yes if you convert them. Usually you can use "alien" but instead of converting to dpkg, convert to zip and extract.
[09:28] <silverghost> kk
[09:28] <Odra> Hello
[09:28] <peetaur> or try rpm2cpio | cpio -some-args-i-forget
[09:29] <jalexandru> Hi, I've connected a new computer to a network that uses dhcp and took a random ip, I need to change the ip to a specific one.My question at this point is: I need to make changes to the new computer or on the server?
[09:30] <ottoshmidt> why can't I su to root?
[09:30] <gvo> ottoshmidt: By default ubuntu has no root password.
[09:30] <gvo> Use sudo su -
[09:30] <Odra> For whatever reason my C# .net 2.0 compiler seems to be missing, how can I reinstall it?
[09:31] <gvo> jalexandru: new
[09:31] <ottoshmidt> what if sudo is broken?
[09:31] <gvo> ottoshmidt: How is it broken?
[09:31] <dontknow> ottoshmidt: ubuntu root account is locked
[09:31] <ottoshmidt> gvo i have broken its dep
[09:32] <ottoshmidt> dontknow, which is bad
[09:32] <veiliance> hey guys
[09:32] <gvo> ottoshmidt: Boot single user and use dhcp to fix the dep maybe
[09:32] <Odra> What is the package name of mono? .___.
[09:32] <veiliance> does ubuntu 12.04 support unity 2d?
[09:32] <jalexandru> gvo: thank you, and what config file should I change? the new computer will take the ip of an old one hope this won't affect the dhcp server...
[09:32] <dontknow> ottoshmidt: if you can't use sudo, open with root acces at boot
[09:32] <DebolazW> veiliance: Yes.
[09:32] <ThinkT510> veiliance: yes
[09:33] <ottoshmidt> dontknow, how?
[09:33] <veiliance> and 11.04 ( nattty) is defaulted to  unity 2d correct?
[09:33] <dontknow> ottoshmidt: hold the shift when booting
[09:34] <dontknow> and chose root
[09:34] <gvo> jalexandru: You shouldn't set the IP to a number in the range of the dhcp served addresses.
[09:34] <veiliance> im sorry ima noob ^^ but i am addicted to 11.04 ( natty)'s  deualt layout from what i could tell its unity 2d :)
[09:34] <Odra> I don't understand. Why mono develop can't compile. :|
[09:34] <Odra> It doesn't make any sense.
[09:34] <gvo> jalexandru: Is this a server?
[09:34] <infinityartworx> how do i create apple DMG files with a format: Mac OS Extended (Journaled) Encryption: 128-bit in Ubuntu ?
[09:34] <ThinkT510> veiliance: if it uses compiz it is unity, if it uses metacity it is unity2d
[09:35] <jalexandru> the new computer is a virtual server that will host a website
[09:35] <gvo> jalexandru: Is network-manager running on it?  OK
[09:35] <ThinkT510> veiliance: unity from 11.04 was based on gnome2, from 11.10 onwards it is based on gnome3
[09:35] <jalexandru> gvo: yes
[09:35] <gvo> jalexandru: Ubuntu 12.04?
[09:35] <jalexandru> yes
[09:35] <gvo> OK
[09:36] <veiliance> awww :( i like the small cute lil launcher button :) its thin and slim and sexy
[09:36] <veiliance> :P
[09:37] <gvo> jalexandru: Edit /etc/network/interfaces.
[09:37]  * Odra facepalms
[09:37] <jalexandru> gvo thank you
[09:37] <gvo> jalexandru: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux-basics-set-a-static-ip-on-ubuntu is a start
[09:37] <Odra> Why mono-develop does not work D:
[09:38] <gvo> jalexandru: Be sure you use the right device.  Eth0 is probably not what the virtual system uses.
[09:38] <Odra> How I am supposed to port my applications to ubuntu if mono-develop does not work D:
[09:38] <gvo> jalexandru: what virtual system?  VirtualBox?
[09:38] <jalexandru> gvo: i checked it with ifconfig and this one is using eth0 but thanks for the heads up; it's a vSphere hyperviser
[09:41] <gvo> jalexandru: If that doesn't work, you may have to go to the vsphere manual
[09:41] <jalexandru> gvo thanks for your time, now I have a starting point so I'll get in to it...
[09:42] <Odra> >:C
[09:42] <Odra> How do I re install mono :C
[09:43] <Odra> Is there a command like apt-get unbreak mono
[09:43] <veiliance-dc> xD
[09:43] <veiliance-dc> ]i think you should make one :P
[09:43] <Odra> Apparently when I upgrade to precise pangolin mono broke
[09:43] <Odra> So it doesnt work
[09:44] <Odra> So I tried to uninstall it
[09:44] <Odra> But I CANT
[09:44] <Odra> Because it doesnt work!
[09:44] <AdvoWork> you know how you can do grep -R 192.168.0.1  * to find all occurences of that ip, is there a way(at the same time) of doing a find/replace on all of them files, changing it to say 0.2?
[09:44] <Odra> It doesnt work because some stuff is missing and I cant uninstall because some stuff is missing what is this I dont evne
[09:44] <veiliance-dc> lolz i rate you just reinstall cos like ubuntu reinstalls within 25 minutes
[09:45] <BrainBug[BE]> jalexandru, not totally in the loop of your problem ,but did you check in vsphere that on the settings of your machine the: "connected" and "connected at power on" are enabled in your network adapter?
[09:45] <geirha> Odra: Pastebin what you're trying, and the output it produces
[09:45] <Odra> I am trying to reinstall mono
[09:45] <Paola> Hello all !
[09:45] <Paola> please to help me
[09:46] <Paola> I done new install ubuntu 10.4 lucid
[09:46] <Odra> It says that "Package dependencies cannot be resolved" and aborts the uninstall
[09:46] <Paola> but why slow  on youtube ?
[09:46] <Odra> BUT I AM TRYING TO UNINSTALL BECAUSE THEY ARE MISSING
[09:47] <Odra> Holy mother of god its the second person who PM's me for help when I am searching for help myself.
[09:48] <ghano> i tryed toopen a skype link from a web browser but doesn't work
[09:49] <BrainBug[BE]> Odra, maybe as you say, the package is broken. try this: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade  try to reinstall/uninstall if this persist try : sudo apt-get install -f
[09:50] <jalexandru> BrainBug[BE]: just checked that and they are both checked but I have no options to set up the ip manually in the vsphere client so it's back to code for me.
[09:51] <ghano> skype doesn't associated with any program
[09:51] <Odra> BrainBug[BE]: Nothing happened.
[09:52] <veiliance-dc> hey guys
[09:53] <ThinkT510> veiliance-dc: straw dudes
[09:54] <BrainBug[BE]> Odra, try : apt-get install --force-reinstall true <package>
[09:54] <veiliance-dc> i have a ati 1600 pro graphics card where can i find drivers for it cos  the additional drivers thing installs but wont allow me with dual screen config it just mirrors it the whole time and tells me that the virtual size cant fit and i then googled the issue  and changed the xorg.conf file to make my virtual size bigger but still no sucess :'( i need the drivers to paly games :$
[09:54] <veiliance-dc> play*
[09:55] <veiliance-dc> um what is straw?
[09:55] <ThinkT510> veiliance-dc: a lot like hay
[09:55] <veiliance-dc> haha o ok :) you got any ideas on my issue :\
[09:56] <ThinkT510> veiliance-dc: sorry, i use nvidia
[09:57] <veiliance-dc> haha same here for home nvidia & ubuntu are like :DDDDDD
[09:57] <BrainBug[BE]> jalexandru, maybe this one can help: http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=4309499
[09:57] <veiliance-dc> but ati is like bleah
[09:58] <veiliance-dc> but beggers cant be choosers :\
[09:59] <jalexandru> BrainBug[BE]: thank you for the the link, will read it right now.
[09:59] <gvo> jalexandru: Once you make changes you'll have to restart networking
[10:05] <kexwork> hey guys, does anyone know a tool where i can select a certain reigon to see how big it is? (I am designing a website from a PDF design, and it needs to be pixel-perfect)
[10:09] <BrainBug[BE]> kexwork, screenruler?
[10:09] <BrainBug[BE]> kexwork, http://gnomecoder.wordpress.com/screenruler/
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> !info screenruler
[10:18] <ldsgfd> hi?
[10:18] <ldsgfd> apt consumes 100% CPU on a Pentium Celerom M
[10:20] <BrainBug[BE]> ldsgfd, how long has it been running?
[10:21] <ldsgfd> always i install anything
[10:21] <ldsgfd> apt-get upgrade, synaptic, update manager ....
[10:21] <ThinkT510> i'm not surprised, its an old processor
[10:22] <BrainBug[BE]> ldsgfd, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -a
[10:22] <ldsgfd> yes, ubuntu 7.10 worked fine
[10:22] <ThinkT510> ldsgfd: back in 2007
[10:24] <silverghost> hello guys am having a strange problem after i do sudo apt-get upgrade my browsing speed is very slow but my download speeds are normal
[10:26] <sparka> Hi, is there any way to resume a do-release-upgrade?
[10:26] <sparka> must have accidentaly closed the screen :/
[10:26] <BrainBug[BE]> silverhost, is your browser scrolling expirience slow or just connecting to websites?
[10:26] <silverghost> some websites are taking 2 minutes to open
[10:27] <BrainBug[BE]> sparka, maybe this site can help : http://askubuntu.com/questions/45622/how-to-resume-the-upgrade-of-package-downloads-10-04-10-10
[10:27] <BrainBug[BE]> silverghost, try google enter " test" take the first page, is it fast or slow?
[10:27] <sparka> BrainBug[BE]: It only says that apt-get or aptitude is already running
[10:28] <nc495> i need a media player for ubuntu,any suggestions?
[10:28] <ldsgfd> solved
[10:28] <silverghost> smplayer nc495
[10:28] <DebolazW> nc495: I tend to prefer VLC for video playback.
[10:28] <BrainBug[BE]> nc495, depend on what you want to do with it, mplayer is fun to start from command line, vlc for all purposes...
[10:29] <nc495> i will download all,thanks all :D
[10:29] <ldsgfd> midori spend more CPU on HTML5 than chromium Lol
[10:29] <BrainBug[BE]> ldsgfd, great you found out
[10:30] <ice_flame> Hello people, do you have solution for compiz big cpu usage?
[10:30] <ldsgfd> flash player are useless on 1.4 GHz processor
[10:30] <ldsgfd> *is
[10:31] <ice_flame> when monitor turn off and my cpu fan start to spin very fast.
[10:33] <ice_flame> This is for ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
[10:33] <ice_flame> and ati hd 5770
[10:34] <BrainBug[BE]> ice_flame, are you using ati driver or the open one?
[10:35] <ice_flame> i had drivers downloaded and compiled from amd site
[10:35] <ice_flame> have*
[10:36] <ice_flame> this only happens when monitor turn off.
[10:37] <BrainBug[BE]> ice_flame, why not use apt-get?  sudo apt-get install fglrx ; sudo aticonfig --initial ; anyway, there should be a catalyst control center where you can edit powerplay options
[10:39] <ice_flame> Maybe I;m wrong, because I read post where people say drivers for ati is better on their site.
[10:39] <ice_flame> posts*
[10:39] <ice_flame> I mean amd site.
[10:39] <ice_flame> And that was the reason using them.
[10:40] <BrainBug[BE]> ice_flame, depends what you want from your video card; ati's proprietary driver is intended to have 3D acc. and maximum usage whereas the radeon hd driver is stable
[10:41] <ice_flame> mhm....
[10:41] <BrainBug[BE]> ice_flame, if your watching 1080p's, HD movies, playing high end games, you should try to fix ati's driver else i suggest you try the open source one
[10:42] <simplew> isnt possible to have the sidebar tree in nautilus anymore???
[10:43] <simplew> i have installed quantal
[10:43] <BrainBug[BE]> ice_flame, maybe this link would help you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/32995/amd-radeon-hd-4250-fan-noise-and-driver-choice
[10:43] <coellobranco> i need help with a NVIDIA driver problem...
[10:43] <ThinkT510> !12.10 | simplew
[10:43] <ice_flame> I look link you give me, 10 for your help. BrainBug!
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> anyone can help fixing this mouse pointer problem? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+question/144040
[10:43] <ice_flame> 10x*
[10:44] <mnice> hello
[10:44] <BrainBug[BE]> ice_flame, your welcome
[10:44] <coellobranco> muy error is: http://pastebin.com/mQA6DVvN
[10:44] <mnice> not real problem but now in charge with friend of mine
[10:44] <mnice> he wants to convince me that chrome includes some flash player in ubuntu diffrent from standard adobe flash plugin
[10:45] <mnice> true/false ?
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> mnine: got flash issues?
[10:45] <mnice> lotuspsychje: no
[10:46] <BrainBug[BE]> mnice, look at the first pointer: http://lifehacker.com/5505518/chrome-officially-integrates-flash-plug+in-by-default
[10:46] <ThinkT510> mnice: chrome isn't in the repos, you'd need to ask the chrome devs
[10:46] <mnice> lotuspsychje: just need to know if chrome uses libflashplayer.so for displaying flash content or something else buil-in
[10:46] <mnice> BrainBug[BE]: thanks
[10:46] <StarOnD> Hello everyone, my brasero is not recognizing a new blank CD R ,can someone help me ? I am in ubuntu 10.04
[10:47] <BrainBug[BE]> StarOnD, tried another empty dvd?
[10:47] <BrainBug[BE]> cd*
[10:47] <StarOnD> hold please let me try
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> someone got a clue about a corrupt square mouse pointer at first boot? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+question/144040
[10:48] <elspuddy_> hi, im trying to figure out why my drive shaire has stoped working, here is a copy of my log file for samba/nmbd http://paste.ubuntu.com/1132196/
[10:49] <BrainBug[BE]> lotuspsychje, dont know if it is relevant for your case but the have this issue too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21295/mouse-pointer-strange-problem
[10:50] <StarOnD> BrainBug, it still says please replace CD with supported CD or DVD
[10:51] <BrainBug[BE]> StarOnD, can you try with an alternative (gnomebaker?)
[10:51] <StarOnD> similar error with k3b
[10:51] <BrainBug[BE]> oke
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> BrainBug[BE]: worg file does not exist for me, maybe i can try the BIOS setting, but i got this strange mouse pointer on an older laptop too, where i cant increase video ram neither..
[10:52] <Chris-D> Setting up Ubuntu Server 12.04 now... as a web server
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> StarOnD: what kind of brand/speed cd/dvd you bought?
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | Chris-D
[10:53] <Chris-D> thanks ubottu :)
[10:53] <StarOnD> lotuspsychje,52X Recordable Moser Baer
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> StarOnD: did you try another brand too? are you sure your dvd-writer is still working?
[10:54] <StarOnD> k3b says please insert into an empty medium
[10:54] <BrainBug[BE]> StarOnD, can you play a dvd? that has been burned
[10:55] <StarOnD> BrainBug,good question
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> BrainBug[BE]:where could i add this line swcursor:true on precise, worg file does not exist
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> xorg
[10:56] <BrainBug[BE]> yes xorg
[10:56] <BrainBug[BE]> you can generate it depends on your driver
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> cant open the xorg file
[10:57] <BrainBug[BE]> sudo Xorg -configure
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> Fatal server error:
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> Server is already active for display 0
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> 	If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> 	and start again.
[10:58] <FloodBot1> lotuspsychje: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:58] <mnice> this chan is awsome .. can't quit staring
[10:58] <dsadfsafdsa> hola
[10:59] <BrainBug[BE]> lotuspsychje, you could try from console, boot withouth x for a second and generate the xorg file
[10:59] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:59] <sparka> after do-release-upgrade to 12.04 i get "mountall: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version 'GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /lib/libplt.so2)" :( How can i solve this?
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> brainbug: seems something like this too here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747023&page=4
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> !xorg
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> does lightdm eplace xorg maybe in precise?
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> replace
[11:04] <dsgvasdf> ALERT! http://pastebin.com/aacTUjjb Freenode is infiltrated by PEDOPHILES from the top down to the bottom! Notice in this log how staffers tolerate graphic descriptions of child sex and the solicitation in open channel to distribute child porn via pm without banning!  Check out the Pastebin of this! http://pastebin.com/aacTUjjb
[11:05] <cfhowlett> dsgvasdf: seriously?  take your tired act elsewhere or check your facts.
[11:05] <BrainBug[BE]> lotuspsychje, i do not have any experience with lightdm for the xorg you could generate it from command line on xinit3 then place it in the right location and reboot.
[11:06] <Auzy> I'm pretty sure dsgvasdf was simply warning us about his fetishes
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> BrainBug:will it not harm my system to generate a new xorg, cause it does not exist yet?
[11:10] <folmer> I have an older laptop (core2duo, 2gb ram, 5400RPM hdd), and I installed ubuntu on it in hope that it would speed things up because of lower sys reqs. However, after some use, I still experience that, say, rightclicking on the desktop to bring up the menu takes as much as 10sec (while there is heavy disk activity)
[11:11] <folmer> the user experience goes to hell and I'm tearing my hair out when that happens. Is there anything I can do or do I have to buy a new laptop?
[11:12] <ice_flame> you hardware is it ok?
[11:12] <ice_flame> Do you test your hard drive for errors?
[11:12] <folmer> I donøt know.
[11:12] <folmer> I haven't no
[11:13] <folmer> what's the command for it?
[11:13] <alankila> lengthy UI pauses when other disk activity is occurring sound pretty normal to me though. linux has always been like that.
[11:13] <cfhowlett> folmer: older lappy?  try lubuntu or xubuntu - both are designed for older, lower spec devices.
[11:13] <cfhowlett> folmer: also, ram matters.
[11:13] <alankila> the other operating systems are not immune either
[11:14] <folmer> cfhowlett: I installed xfce4 on ununtu and I'm running it now. Same problem
[11:14] <cfhowlett> folmer: what's your ram?
[11:14] <folmer> 2gb
[11:14] <alankila> that being said, collecting statistics with iotop/vmstat/atop/top etc. would help, to try to figure out what programs are using the various resources.
[11:14] <W4sp> folmer's spec are fine for anything. I would suggest to check with iotop, top if something hangs.
[11:14] <Auzy> folmerif they aren't all immune, could be a lot of things.. Could even be the HDD
[11:15] <BrainBug[BE]> folmer, maybe this one helps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/96216/right-click-on-xubuntu-home-screen-is-slow-is-it-normal
[11:15] <kristenbb> where is the content of ~/ubuntu one/Shared with me ?
[11:16] <folmer> I mean, I know the specs aren't the greatest, but I really did expect an improvement switching to Linux
[11:16] <folmer> alankila: How would you go about doing that?
[11:16] <folmer> BrainBug[BE]: thanks, 'll check the link now
[11:18] <BrainBug[BE]> folmer, maybe ice_flame has a point, if everything becomes slow on all and everything, it maybe due to bad sectors or corrupt disk, from your bios you can scan / test hard drive. you have to check it's vendor specific (press F2, F10, del,... key on booting your computer)
[11:18] <subdesign> any idea what is the correct url handler for Chrome in XChat?
[11:19] <folmer> BrainBug[BE]: Yeah, ok, I see the point of the article. It just bypasses the need to access the disk in order to fetch the icons. I guess it's a workaround, but the general sloppyness doesn't limit itself to the menus alone
[11:19] <alankila> I haven't seen bios-based disk scanners ever.
[11:19] <rvgate> With remmina, how do i enable the save password option for ssh connections
[11:19] <ice_flame> HP laptop have
[11:19] <alankila> anyway if there are unreadable sectors they appear with kernel complaining in its log (dmesg) about it
[11:19] <folmer> BrainBug[BE]: I guess it's the need to access the disk that's killing the user experience (because it's so terribly slow 5400RPM), but STILL I hadn't imagined it would be that gross
[11:20] <kristenbb> where does the symink  ~/ubuntu one/Shared with me point to?
[11:20] <folmer> alankila: I have a rather full HDD (only ~15gigs free) would it affect performance?
[11:20] <milsabor> hi
[11:20] <BrainBug[BE]> folmer, i have one around the specs your saying, and it's decent. so that's why you should do a memory / disk check from bios to see if anything is wrong there
[11:20] <cfhowlett> milsabor: greetings
[11:21] <Paola> hello
[11:21] <alankila> folmer: 15 GB still sounds like a lot to me.
[11:21] <folmer> BrainBug[BE]: Right, I'll try to do some memory/disk diagnostics
[11:21] <cfhowlett> Paola: greetings
[11:21] <Paola> i want know about version on ubuntu 10.10 maverick desktop ist good work and have drivers  ?
[11:21] <alankila> running linux for long time with very full disk is almost certain to fragment all commonly used files, though.
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> Paola  10.10 is no longer valid or supported
[11:22] <folmer> alankila: yeah I'd think so too. Still It's said that HDD's slow down when they fill up
[11:22] <BrainBug[BE]> subdesign, maybe this one can help: http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=5576
[11:22] <Paola> oh
[11:22] <ice_flame> Folmer if you a not familiar with linux diagnostics, you can try Hirens boot cd
[11:22] <cfhowlett> !eol|paola
[11:22] <folmer> alankila: I just don't know if it applies to my situation
[11:22] <folmer> ice_flame: Right, I'll give it a try. Is it a linux dist?
[11:22] <alankila> folmer: there exists a tool called e4defrag to estimate disk fragmentation. It usually says 0 to everybody because the filesystem is fragmentation resistant.
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> Paola  keep it in the channel please
[11:23] <Paola> ok
[11:23] <Paola>  im here on ubuntu 10.4 lucid
[11:23] <Paola>  but why slow here and video youtube is slow
[11:23] <ice_flame> it;s live cd
[11:23] <ellab> what does "1;" mean perl?
[11:23] <ice_flame> it's dosn't needlinux or windows
[11:23] <cfhowlett> Paola: 10.04 is LTS so has 36 months support in the desktop edition
[11:23] <folmer> alankila: there's no package with that name in apt
[11:24] <Paola> yeah
[11:24] <alankila> folmer: it's part of e2fsprogs, so in a 12.04 ubuntu it is already installed.
[11:24] <Paola> its good 10.04.4 lts ?
[11:24] <folmer> alankila: ah, right
[11:24] <W4sp> folmer 's hardware spec is fine, I run on Centrino with 1.2GHz that I step down to 600 Mhz with 1.4GB RAM. Everything works with good performance. I suggest folmer you follow BrainBug[BE] and alankila advice to identify where the issue is.
[11:24] <Paola> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[11:24] <Paola> Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[11:24] <Paola> Release:	10.04
[11:24] <Paola> Codename:	lucid
[11:24] <Paola> charlos@Charlos-Desktop:~$
[11:24] <FloodBot1> Paola: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:24] <ice_flame> I thing is fine too
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> Paola  you might as well upgrade to 12.04
[11:25] <kristenbb> where does the symink  ~/ubuntu one/Shared with me point to?
[11:25] <Alir3z4> I am on the Ubuntu 10.04, if i issue "# apt-get upgrade" the distro itself will be upgraded?
[11:25] <Paola> but how to make command for upgrade  ?
[11:25] <W4sp> Don't make it worse by guessing.
[11:25] <cfhowlett> Alir3z4: no it will not
[11:25] <milsabor> I've got a slow connexion issue only at my parent's, and only with my laptop (I mean that i never have issues to connect at any wifi connexion except at my parent's, and that an other ubuntu laptop is connected to the wifi and works perfectly well)
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> Paola  fresh install may be faster and more efficient -- don't forget to backup, first
[11:25] <Alir3z4> cfhowlett: Thank you, so if i want to upgrade to 12.04 what i have to do then ?
[11:25] <kristenbb> where does the symlink  ~/ubuntu one/Shared with me point to?
[11:25] <Ristovski> hello, Im on linux mint 12 on my ASUS laptop, when I cannect my headphones, both headphones and speakers work, any help?
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[11:26] <DJones> !mint | Ristovski
[11:26] <alankila> my advice to linux disk access woes is to invest in SSD. I don't use non-SSD systems anymore.
[11:26] <cfhowlett> Alir3z4: from ubuntu software center, you should have the option to upgrade the distro
[11:26] <Alir3z4> cfhowlett: It's production server
[11:26] <cfhowlett> Alir3z4: but ONLY from 10.04 to 12.04 as they're both LTS
[11:26] <cfhowlett> cfhowlett: so command line only?
  please privat me better
[11:26] <Paola> i dont know all command for ubuntu
[11:27] <cfhowlett> Alir3z4: command line only then?
[11:27] <spina89> hollo
[11:27] <folmer> W4sp: yeah I'd expect something is wrong too. I mean, it's really frustrating when it happens, but then again I don't know if I'm asking too much of the hardware. I do tend to have a lot of tabs open i na browser ie, but it's really astonishing if that's the reason the system gets handicapped like that
[11:27] <kristenbb> can someone please help me?
[11:27] <spina89> !list
[11:27] <Alir3z4> cfhowlett: Yes
[11:27] <cfhowlett> Alir3z4: see http://blog.sven.co.za/2010/06/01/upgrade-your-ubuntu-distro-from-the-command-line-server-or-desktop/
[11:27] <clj_newb_2098283> test
[11:27] <Alir3z4> cfhowlett: Thank you very much ;)
[11:28] <cfhowlett> Alir3z4: have fun. be safe.
[11:28] <folmer> alankila: I use an SSD in my desktop too. It's really amazing what it does to the responsiveness and the overall performance of the system, so my expectations could be way off for the laptop
[11:28] <spina89> !alis
[11:28] <Paola> tell me know ... how to command for upgrade ? i see have upgrade is 10.10 new upgrade but how to 12.04  ?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> Paola: can't upgrade from 10.10 directly.  Best you do a clean install
[11:29] <TobyJamesJoy> hi, compiz has crashed on me twice after using the super key to open the dash, any tips? this doesn;t reproduce reliably, only the twice....
[11:29] <Paola> but how to make ?
[11:29] <kristenbb> can someone please tell me what's the output of the command     ll Ubuntu\ One/Shared\ With\ Me     ?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> Paola: download the iso.  checksum.  create a live boot USB or cdrom.  Boot that and install.
[11:30] <alankila> folmer: in general all our disk schedulers are written to maximize bandwidth at expense of latency. Even the best of them such as CFQ seem like they don't do enough to control the problem.
[11:30] <W4sp> folmer: I think your advice is correct, see what processes are causing issues. It may be a flaw in the hardware but this can be identified by running the tools you and BrainBug[BE] suggested. Besides, it takes to long to open a contect menu on the desktop.
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> Paola  you cannot upgrade directly from 10.10 to 12.04, fastest is to fresh install -- don't forget to backup, first
[11:30] <Paola> okey but that good version 10.04.4 LTS  ?
[11:30] <kristenbb> Can someone please not ignore me ? :(
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> Paola  use 12.04 , not 10.04
[11:31] <Paola> ok
[11:31] <Paola> i must install download cd rom for 12.04  ?
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> kristenbb  that's not ignoring, that's 'not knowing te answer to whatever your question was'
[11:31] <usr13> Paola: If you have 10.04 on hand, use it.
[11:31] <Paola> after install update manager ---> settings normal release after install update, really   ?
[11:32] <kristenbb> MonkeyDust: it doesn't require any skills, just having a 12.04 ubuntu. I bet there's more than one in here.
[11:32] <milsabor> it seemed to be a bit rate problem (my wi fi card supports n wifi, but my wifi box does not), so i tried to change the bit rate using the following command lines : ifdown wlan0;  iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M; ifup wlan0. But the first command returns "interface wlan0 not configured"
[11:32] <Paola> :-/
[11:33] <Paola> I need work ubuntu that good  ?
[11:33] <shal3r> How to get [sun-java6-jre sun-java6-fonts sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-plugin] on ubuntu 9.3 ?
[11:33] <Paola> excusa me I am deaf and my names Paola
[11:33] <usr13> Paola: 10.04 Desktop is good until April 2013
[11:34] <alankila> folmer: that being said the performance is pretty good as long as you don't force more I/O than the disk system can take... but as soon as you do, the queues fill up, the backlog builds, scheduling decisions penalize programs that generate small I/O requests at a time and which must wait until those are satisfied before they can generate more
[11:34] <cfhowlett> Paola: what's your question?
[11:34] <kristenbb> can someone with 12.04 please tell me what's the output of the command     ll Ubuntu\ One/Shared\ With\ Me     ?
[11:34] <Paola> I need work all drivers and good ati/amd work video on youtube this that version on ubuntu   ?
[11:34] <jacta> anyone running evolution in the newest stable version?
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> kristenbb  wy do you want to now what people are sharing?
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> know*
[11:35] <Alir3z4> Paola: You can watch video on youtube without flash or other plugins also
[11:35] <kristenbb> that's not what I want to know, I want to know where the symlink points to
[11:35] <kristenbb> I deleted it by mistake
[11:35] <usr13> kristenbb: ls -l  will tell you.
[11:35] <kristenbb> is there nobody with 12.04 in here??
[11:35] <Paola> but how to command ? tell me know please
[11:36] <usr13> kristenbb: But not if you deleted it.
[11:36] <DJones> !patience | kristenbb
[11:36] <kristenbb> usr13: yes, do it please if you have it.
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> kristenbb  for a start, ll is a unix command, not a linux command, i guess you mean ls -l
[11:37] <Alir3z4> Paola: I'm not a ubuntu desktop user, but may this help you => http://askubuntu.com/questions/142627/flgrx-amd-catalyst-driver-issues-in-ubuntu-12-04
[11:37] <Paola> video on youtube without flash or other plugins also but how to command ? tell me know please
[11:37] <usr13> kristenbb: Why would someone else have that file?  What is it?
[11:37] <folmer> alankila: yeah I know I'm rathe limited with regrds to io resources, but even now when I type, having run e4defrag in the background the system stops responding for several seconds occationally
[11:37] <Paola> Thanks
[11:38] <W4sp> Paola: /home/<yourid>/.local/share/ubuntuone/shares/
[11:38] <kristenbb> MonkeyDust: ll is a bash shortcut that everyone one with ubuntu has. it just means ls -l with some other stuff.
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> kristenbb  it points to ~/.local/share/ubuntuone/shares/
[11:38] <kristenbb> thanks!
[11:38] <W4sp> kristenbb: /home/<yourid>/.local/share/ubuntuone/shares/
[11:38] <folmer> alankila: I think it's unacceptable, but,again, is it completely normal for an older laptop?
[11:39] <kristenbb> ok, thanks.
[11:39] <Paola> /home/<yourid>/.local/share/ubuntuone/shares/   after what ?
[11:39] <W4sp> Paola: Sorry, mixed you accidently with kristenbb
[11:39] <kristenbb> Paola: no, that was for me
[11:40] <Paola> i dont understand ! :-/
[11:40] <Paola> fglrx is already the newest version.
[11:40] <Paola> E: Couldn't find package fglrx-amdccclete
[11:40] <Paola> :-?
[11:40] <kristenbb> Paola: what language do you speak? Italian? maybe you'd better go to an italian version.
[11:41] <Paola> no
[11:41] <Paola> english only
[11:41] <W4sp> Paola: I accidently addressed an answer to you that was intended for kristenbb
[11:41] <Paola> but i am deaf excuse me
[11:41] <Paola> what this about ?
[11:41] <oldereagle> I use Ubuntu 12.04 on my eee pc that has 1024x600 screen. When I hook up an external monitor (1280 x 1024) Ubuntu will not use it without rotating the screen 90 degrees.
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> oldereagle  i guess you can rotate it back, by right clicking on it
[11:42] <Paola> so update manager---> setitings --> prompt normal release after install update , perfect  ?
[11:43] <oldereagle> Nope. Only change it "to the left" or "to the right". Not "Normal"..
[11:43] <folmer> e4defrag found nothing
[11:43] <oldereagle> MonkeyDust, Nope. Only change it "to the left" or "to the right". Not "Normal"..
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> oldereagle  moment, in xfce it's possible, i switch now to unity
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> oldereagle  it does have a rotation feature in unity
[11:45] <Paola> so why not work update on 9.10   ?
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> i'm sure Dr_Willis can't wait to help someone
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> Paola  because 9.10 is too old
[11:47] <oldereagle> MonkeyDust, Thanks for helping. But my problem is that when I hook up an external monitor, the possible selections of rotations go from "4 ways" to only "2 ways" and both of those are "laying on its side".
[11:47] <elspuddy_>  im trying to figure out why my drive shaire has stoped working, here is a copy of my log file for samba/nmbd http://paste.ubuntu.com/1132196/
[11:47] <Paola> oh
[11:47] <Paola> okey
[11:47] <jacta> Does anyone know how to get the stable version on evolution on the machine instead of the default from apt-get?
[11:47] <Paola> but what good this 10.04  lucid is ok  ?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> jacta  start from the beginning, what happened
[11:48] <Paola> but what good this 10.04  lucid is ok  ?
[11:48] <jacta> MonkeyDust, the one from apt-get is just old, and latest stable is newer
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> !latest| jacta
[11:49] <Paola> tell me know
[11:49] <Paola> say me now... i dont have time waiting
[11:49] <jacta> MonkeyDust, I know that - but in this case I'd like the newest one
[11:49] <Paola> but what good this 10.04  lucid is ok  ?
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> Paola  yes, 10.04 is supported until spring next year
[11:49] <Paola> okey
[11:49] <Paola> but  work force driver for ati/amd  ?
[11:49] <oldereagle> MonkeyDust, I can view the ext monitor in 800 X 600 but in 1280x1024 the optios are reduced to clockwise and ant-clockwise. Disabling the laptop monitor does not help...
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> oldereagle  sounds strange, i can't advice on it
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> give*
[11:50] <oldereagle> MonkeyDust, ok. thanks anyway.
  its  work force driver for ati/amd  ?
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> Paola  i have intel and i'm happy with it, i'm not familiar with anything else
[11:52] <jacta> MonkeyDust, problem is that I dont know how to update :\
[11:52] <Paola> MonkeyDust  okey but  what boot loader that h 0,0 or sda, sata hard  ?
[11:52] <Paola> for manual partition
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> jacta  if it's not in the repos, you need a ppa or so, but you use that on your own risk
[11:53] <Paola> ?????
[11:53] <Paola> MonkeyDust  ?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> Paola  not sure what you mean
[11:54] <Paola> so i have ati/amd readon but its work install for ubuntu  10.4  ?
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> depends on the exact card paola
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> Paola  i'm not familiar with ati/amd, i'm sure someone else can help
[11:55] <Paola> but what help me how  ?
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[11:56] <Paola> thanks
[11:56] <Paola> but have there Hardware > Drivers
[11:56] <Paola> ?
[11:57] <Paola> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV710 [Radeon HD 4550]
[11:57] <Paola> width: 64 bits
[11:58] <Paola> what this  ? why not 32 bit  ????
[11:58] <Paola> I must install iso ubuntu 10.04.4 lts 64 bit or 32 bit that for ati 64 bit  ?
[11:59] <compdoc> ati = video card
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> you are confuseing your bits..
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> whats the cpu = decides if you want 32 or 64bit
[12:00] <compdoc> video cards dont care if the OS is 32 or 64 bit
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> if you dont know.. go 32bit.
[12:00] <compdoc> teh more bits, the faster the vid card
[12:00] <Paola> i dont know all mean :(
[12:00] <Paola> I have cd ubuntu 10.04 32 bit
[12:00] <Paola> but why at 64 bit   ?
[12:01] <compdoc> use 32
[12:01] <Paola> but why ati 64 bit  ?
[12:01] <Paola> yes 32 bit
[12:01] <compdoc> dont know why anyone would use ubuntu 10.04, but whatever
[12:01] <Paola> ???
[12:02] <Paola> In Ubuntu 10.04 and 9:10 this is found under System->Administration->Hardware Drivers.
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> ignore that 'bit' info about the video.. its confuseing you
[12:02] <Paola> shit :(
[12:02] <DIFH-iceroot> compdoc: because its a lts release which is still supported
[12:02] <Paola> Note:In Ubuntu 10:10 Hardware Drivers is now named Additional Drivers
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> Paola:  correct.. or just run    jockey-gtk
[12:03] <Paola> its work 10.10 for ati
[12:03] <Paola> but how to make command for jockey-gtk   ????
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> the command is  gksudo jockey-gtk
[12:04] <Paola> oh okey
[12:04] <caixa> is there a reason why my gpu runs about 20c hotter in linux than windows?
[12:04] <brontosaurusrex> xrandr is installed by default on *buntus?
[12:05] <Paola> but this driver is activated and currently in use.
[12:05] <milsabor> ok, i try again : hi everyone, I've got a slow connexion issue only at my parent's, and only with my laptop (I mean that i never have issues to connect at any wifi connexion except at my parent's, and that an other ubuntu laptop is connected to the wifi and works perfectly well). it seemed to be a bit rate problem (my wi fi card supports n wifi, but my wifi box does not), so i tried to change the bit rate using the following
[12:05] <milsabor>  command lines : ifdown wlan0;  iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M; ifup wlan0. But the first command returns "interface wlan0 not configured"
[12:05] <Paola> but why slow video on youtube   ?????
[12:05] <DIFH-iceroot> Paola: normally a flash issue, because on GNU/Linux the gpu is not used for flash
[12:06] <DIFH-iceroot> Paola: also, 10.10 is no longer supported
[12:06] <Paola> okey
[12:06] <Paola> but
[12:06] <Paola> but why slow video on youtube   ?????
[12:06] <iceroot> Paola: 10.10 is no longer supported
[12:06] <Paola> how to make good work ?
[12:07] <Paola> i understand... better only 10.04 lts
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> because flash sucks mainly...
[12:07] <iceroot> always
[12:07] <jahid> when i do "ls -l" what are the 3rd and 4th column means? normally they show user name
[12:07] <iceroot> jahid: username and group
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> uid and gid perhaps?
[12:08] <iceroot> jahid: and if you for example deleted that user, the uid and gui is shown
[12:08] <Paola> but how to make remove and install again for flash   ? ?????
[12:08] <iceroot> Paola: we dont support 10.10 here
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> they can show a # if you move stuff  from different system s
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> remove/reinstalling flash wont help flash much i imagine
[12:08] <iceroot> !eol | Paola
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> Paola  first upgrade to 12.04, then ask support
[12:10] <jahid> iceroot, drwxr-xr-x  2 ec-developer root         4096 2012-08-06 13:55 projects      <---- so on this the ec-developer is the creator? and root is the owner?
[12:10] <milsabor> anyone please ?
[12:11] <oldereagle> MonkeyDust, I managed to solve it by Googling... : http://askubuntu.com/questions/149025/dual-monitor-second-screen-is-rotated-ubuntu-12-04-precise
[12:11] <iceroot> jahid: ec-developer is the owner, root is the group
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> oldereagle  great :-)
[12:11] <iceroot> jahid: owner group other  is the order
[12:11] <jahid> iceroot, isnt it other way around?
[12:11] <iceroot> jahid: no
[12:12] <jahid> because i do not have any user "ec-developer", and there is not root group either. but i have a group name ec-developers
[12:12] <iceroot> jahid: man chown
[12:12] <iceroot> owner then group
[12:13] <iceroot> jahid: and you have a user named ec-developer and a group named root
[12:13] <iceroot> jahid: if you dont have them ls would show the uid and gui instead of the real names
[12:13] <iceroot> jahid: getent passwd | grep ec-developer
[12:13] <iceroot> jahid: getent group | grep root
[12:14] <jahid> iceroot, when i do "cat /etc/group" i do not see any group named root.
[12:14] <Pici> iceroot: fyi, you can do:  getent group root
[12:14] <iceroot> Pici: thx
[12:14] <iceroot> jahid: always use getent
[12:14] <iceroot> jahid: because its also reading ldap and other sources for users and groups
[12:15] <rickogden> hi all, is it possible to prepend a custom mapped attribute in ldap.conf? eg. nss_map_attribute homeDirectory "/home/"sAMAccountName
[12:15] <iceroot> rickogden: #openldap or #slapd
[12:15] <rickogden> iceroot: thanks
[12:16] <RomeoAva> ms with Adobe Flash Player in Ubuntu10:04. The display settings window is inactive
[12:16] <jahid> iceroot, i do not have any user named "ec-developer", but I do have a group.
[12:16] <iceroot> jahid: impossible
[12:16] <iceroot> jahid: outout of "id ec-developer"
[12:16] <iceroot> output
[12:17] <iceroot> jahid: if that is not finding anything, ls would show for example 1000 instead of ec-developer
[12:17] <jahid> uid=1010(ec-developer) gid=1011(ec-developer) groups=1011(ec-developer),1003(android-dev)
[12:17] <iceroot> jahid: as i sais, you have a user called ec-developer
[12:17] <iceroot> said
[12:17] <iceroot> jahid: with the uid 1010
[12:17] <jahid> i :o
[12:17] <jahid> :o
[12:19] <kristenbb> How can I redirect the sound to a new display ?
[12:19] <Paola> but what normal release or  Long term support release only  ? ????
[12:19] <iceroot> kristenbb: a display is not producing sound
[12:19] <iceroot> Paola: 10.04, 11.04, 11.10, 12.04 are the supported ones
[12:19] <iceroot> and 8.04 (server)
[12:20] <Paola> ubuntu  9.10 is work good for ati and good force but why error for update manager  ????
[12:20] <Paola> ok
[12:20] <kristenbb> iceroot: how can I attach to an existing sound device from a distant display then?
[12:20] <iceroot> !eol | Paola  (last link for the error)
[12:20] <iceroot> kristenbb: is your question how to play ssound remote from a server?
[12:20] <kristenbb> iceroot: from a client, but yes
[12:21] <Paola> but how to make link add for update manager on ubuntu  9.10   ?
[12:21] <Paola> this its work for me good pc
[12:21] <iceroot> Paola: read the link
[12:21] <Paola> and work ati/amd  nice
[12:21] <Paola> ok
[12:21] <bazhang> Paola, it's not supported
[12:21] <iceroot> kristenbb: what are you using? vnc, teamviewer, rdesktop, nx?
[12:21] <Paola> okey
[12:21] <kristenbb> iceroot: nx
[12:21] <Paola> iceroot you can try my pc on teamviewer   ?
[12:22] <Paola> better help me  my pc look
[12:22] <Paola> or bazhang if you can try my pc   ?
[12:22] <bazhang> Paola, 9.10 is not supported. please upgrade
[12:22] <kristenbb> iceroot: but i'd also like an answer to all of the above, I use all of them. I'm guessing the answer can be adapted to different software...
[12:23] <iceroot> kristenbb: for freenx is saw it working some time ago but i dont know how. i dont think vnc is supporting sound
[12:23] <nc495> i need a swf player for ubuntu
[12:23] <Paola> 9.10 new install after upgrade ? but prompt=Normal after upgrade
[12:24] <iceroot> Paola: can you sltop this? i told you 3 times that your versions are not supported here
[12:24] <cfhowlett> Paola: 9.10 is dead.  period point blank.
[12:24] <Paola> oh
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> Paola  first upgrade, then ask help
[12:25] <nc495> i need swf player for ubuntu
[12:25] <iceroot> kristenbb: just have something like this at the moment :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1702263
[12:25] <Paola> before i see 9.10 is work well for force ati but 10.04 why bad slow for ati  ? how   ?
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> !repeat| nc495
[12:25] <iceroot> nc495: vlc maybe
[12:25] <RomeoAva> Problems with Adobe Flash Player in Ubuntu10:04. The Adobe display settings window is inactive in an on-line conference.
[12:25] <RomeoAva> that cud be because Unity?
[12:25] <RomeoAva> or 3D?
[12:25] <nc495> ok,thanks iceroot
[12:26] <kristenbb> iceroot: there's no answer to the question...
[12:26] <cfhowlett> RomeoAva: i'd guess either would do it.  boot the classic display to test...
[12:26] <iceroot> kristenbb: i know, because of that the ":("
[12:26] <girlwind> girlwind
[12:26] <iceroot> kristenbb: but maybe its a start for looking
[12:26] <girlwind> nick girlwind
[12:27] <kristenbb> Does someone know how to forward sound ?
[12:27] <TrevMyster> Hello I need someone to give me a terminal command to allow me to drag and drop icons to the desktop.
[12:27] <iceroot> kristenbb: if both are linux-machines you can try to use pulse-audio as a server and client
[12:28] <eroot> join #tog
[12:28] <eroot> sorry!
[12:28] <kristenbb> iceroot: yes both are. How to do that?
[12:28] <Stanley00> TrevMyster: from where to desktop?
[12:28] <iceroot> kristenbb: on older releases there was "padevchooser" but its removed now so you have to write the config by hand
[12:28] <TrevMyster> From launcher to desktop. I want to create shortcuts that I can click to open apps
[12:29] <Stanley00> TrevMyster: you are using U 12.04, right? you can try drag from dash, not from laucher.
[12:30] <TrevMyster> Hoe
[12:30] <th0r> TrevMyster: you can copy the appropriate .desktop file from /usr/share/applications to ~/Desktop
[12:30] <TrevMyster> There was a command I typed before I reset ubuntu that allowed me to do it.
[12:30] <TrevMyster> But I lost it
[12:30] <Paola> so upgrade 10.4 lst first after click install update and prompt normal ???
[12:31] <cfhowlett> Paola: download the iso.  burn a cdrom or usb. boot that.
[12:31] <Stanley00> TrevMyster: the "cp"? as th0r said?
[12:31] <Paola> ok i have cd rom 10.04
[12:31] <TrevMyster> ? I just want to be able to click and hold an icon and move it to desktop no complicated stuff
[12:31] <iceroot> Paola: you cant upgrade with the normal 10.04 cd
[12:31] <Paola> after install update  but i must manual click for prompt normal after install update, correct  ?
[12:32] <th0r> TrevMyster: you can do the copy using the file manager...I did
[12:32] <iceroot> Paola: as i told you also 3 times, read the link from ubottu about the eol upgrades
[12:32] <iceroot> !eol | p
[12:32] <iceroot> !eol | Paola
[12:32] <Stanley00> TrevMyster: why don't you just drag from the dash?
[12:32] <iceroot> Paola: and now start reading please, everything answered there
[12:32] <TrevMyster> What is dash
[12:32] <TrevMyster> Everytime I try to drag and drop it doesn't go to desktop
[12:33] <Stanley00> TrevMyster: the one appear when you press "window" key
[12:33] <Ali1> Fatal error:cannot open disk drive press any key to exit cfdisk
[12:33] <Ali1> any one can assist me with this error
[12:33] <TrevMyster> Thanks
[12:34] <Stanley00> TrevMyster: or run this command : "nautilus /usr/share/applications" and drag what ever you want to your desktop
[12:35] <Paola> but how see my pc info that i have 32 bit or 64 bit that support my pc ?
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> Paola  did you install ubuntu yourself, or did someone do it for you?
[12:35] <Paola> how i can see ?
[12:35] <cfhowlett> Paola: 32 bit works on all pc's/
[12:35] <Paola> better you try my pc on teamviewer
[12:35] <Paola> okey
[12:36] <Stanley00> Paola: try this "lshw -C cpu"
[12:37] <Stanley00> Paola: look for that in "width" or "capabilities"
[12:37] <Paola> ok thnx
[12:38] <Paola> product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) D CPU 3.33GHz
[12:38] <Paola>        vendor: Intel Corp.
[12:38] <Paola> size: 3350MHz
[12:38] <Paola>        width: 64 bits
[12:38] <Ali1> paola can you please tell me how i can fix this error .Fatal error: cannot open disk drive press any key to exit cfdisk
[12:39] <Paola> .Fatal error
[12:39] <iceroot> Paola: uname -m  is the important info
[12:39] <iceroot> Paola: that will show you what your current system has
[12:39] <Paola> i686
[12:39] <iceroot> oldereagle: 32bit
[12:39] <root_> Hi !!
[12:40] <iceroot> Paola: 32bit
[12:40] <iceroot> oldereagle: sorry wrong nick
[12:40] <root_> Heloo
[12:40] <Paola> bnut my cpu width: 64 bits   how no problem ?
[12:40] <iceroot> !rootirc | root_
[12:40] <cfhowlett> Paola: 32 bit will run on your machine
[12:40] <Stanley00> Paola: you want to know about your OS or your CPU?
[12:40] <iceroot> Paola: if you want to upgrade your current system use 32bit, if you want to reinstall use 64bit
[12:41] <Paola> yes
[12:41] <ServerTechLaptop> My SSH is suddenly being refused. I tryied alot of things of going into adding an SSH incoming accept rule in iptables. Doesn't seem to work. I've been thinking that it could be OpenSSH not running. Any ideas of fixing this? (I have server access)
[12:41] <iceroot> ServerTechLaptop: ssh localhost "on the server"
[12:41] <W4sp> Can anybody identify if Paola requires to download the non-PAE kernel?
[12:42] <ServerTechLaptop> iceroot, lol no. It's not physically available.
[12:42] <pierre_ubuntuing> good day all
[12:42] <Paola> but i dont know all
[12:42] <ServerTechLaptop> iceroot, it's a VPS. It's control panel gives some amount of access to the console. But I need to SSH in.
[12:42] <Paola> you know that work good for me
[12:42] <Paola> pc
[12:42] <pierre_ubuntuing> need help with software center
[12:43] <pierre_ubuntuing> cant buy a game
[12:43] <pierre_ubuntuing> using ubuntu 12.04 64bit
[12:43] <iceroot> !details | pierre_ubuntuing
[12:43] <oldereagle> iceroot, np!
[12:44] <Paola> No command 'widt' found, did you mean:
[12:44] <Paola>  Command 'widl' from package 'wine1.2' (universe)
[12:44] <Paola> widt: command not found
[12:44] <Kartman> hello, know somebody the name of the german ubuntu channel (because my english is bad^^)? "#ubuntu-de" doesn't works
 Can anybody identify if Paola requires to download the non-PAE kernel?     what this about  ?
[12:45] <iceroot> !de | Kartman
[12:45] <Ormie> hi, there. What is the best terminal window manager for pure tty?
[12:45] <iceroot> Kartman: #ubuntu-de  nutz /join #ubuntu-de aus diesem channel, dann ist sichergestelt dass du im freenode bist
[12:46] <cfhowlett> !best|Ormie
[12:46] <iceroot> Ormie: screen
[12:46] <silverghost> putos
[12:46] <Pici> Ormie: check out screen or tmux
[12:46] <Ormie> hmph...
[12:46] <Ormie> ok
[12:46] <pierre_ubuntuing> ok. have problem with buying a game on software centre, running ubuntu 12.04 64bit, when i say buy , it takes me to the ubuntu single login screen and after entering credentials nonthing happens,
[12:46] <silverghost> madarchod
[12:46] <Paola> how to make remove flash  and again command for work video on youtube  ??????
[12:47] <silverghost> maa d yarr loda ubuntu
[12:47] <Ormie> ok, bye
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> Paola  first upgrade, then ask again
[12:47] <cfhowlett> Paola: so you DON'T want to upgrade.  OK then ..
[12:47] <silverghost> bhenchod betichod maachod
[12:48] <pierre_ubuntuing> get "OpenID authentication failed: Nonce already used or out of range" when trying to reload page
[12:48] <Paola> No LSB modules are available.
[12:48] <Paola> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[12:48] <Paola> Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[12:48] <Paola> Release:	10.04
[12:48] <Paola> Codename:	lucid
[12:48] <FloodBot1> Paola: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:49] <Paola> is work  but no need upgrade for what again ?
[12:49] <silverghost> ooooooooooo
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> Paola  ok, that's a supported version
[12:49] <pierre_ubuntuing> have registered at ubuntu single sign in and received temp code which i entered to finish registration
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> MaMaD  keep it in the channel please
[12:50] <Paola> I need again to click upgrade  ?????
[12:50] <Paola> no need this
[12:51] <cfhowlett> Paola: asked and answered repeatedly.  Upgrade.  Don't upgrade.  Make up your mind.
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> !pm| MaMaD
    I need install for adobe flash again ? how to make   ??? because i slow video on youtube ?
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> Paola  use html5      youtube.com/html5
[12:52] <Paola> youtube.com/html5  I see after what i can  try  ?
[12:53] <Paola> Firefox 4 (WebM, Available here)
[12:53] <iceroot> !info firefox lucid
[12:53] <iceroot> Paola: you are using firefox 3?
[12:54] <luftikuss> What command will change UID and GID of all files in a directory?
[12:54] <Paola> I dont know
[12:54] <Paola> how I n see   ?
[12:54] <iceroot> luftikuss: chown -r user:group dir
[12:54] <Paola> how i can see   ?
[12:54] <iceroot> Paola: dpkg -l firefox
[12:54] <useruser132423> maybe sound configuration or just use wine ,that solved my problem
[12:54] <peetaur> luftikuss: -R not -r
[12:55] <Paola> ii  firefox        14.0.1+build1- Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla
[12:55] <peetaur> luftikuss: -R, --recursive    operate on files and directories recursively
[12:55] <iceroot> peetaur: luftikuss yes thx, its -R not -r
[12:56] <iceroot> Paola: everything fine
[12:56] <luftikuss> peetaur, I acknowledge reception.
[12:56] <Paola> but slow video youtube, how  ???
[12:56] <Paola> iceroot better you try my pc on teamviewer  my dear
[12:57] <Kartman> i'll try to run backuppc on ubuntu 12.04 64bit, but when i start the apache2 (installed by the backuppc installation) it show the error "No MPM package installed" but i have installe apache2-mpm-worker and also tried apache2-mpm-prefork so what can i do?
[12:57] <milsabor> hi, I have a slow wi fi connexion, and i notice that only on my laptop (the connection works fine with other ubuntu laptops), and only with this connexion (my laptop works fine with other wi fi connexion). Can someone help me to solve this problem ?
[12:58] <Paola> but slow video youtube ? How I can   ?
[12:58] <ServerTechLaptop> My SSH is suddenly being refused. I tryied alot of things of going into adding an SSH incoming accept rule in iptables. Doesn't seem to work. I've been thinking that it could be OpenSSH not running. Any ideas of fixing this? Running Ubuntu 11.04 x64.
[12:58] <Stanley00> Paola: switch to html5, flash suck! :D
[13:00] <Paola> i dont know html5 what this for download or what  ??????
[13:00] <Kartman> can somebody help me with the apache2 problem?
[13:00] <Paola> Additional Restrictions (we are working on these!)
[13:00] <Paola>     Videos with ads are not supported (they will play in the Flash player)
[13:01] <Stanley00> Paola: go to youtube.com/html5 click join and you done
[13:01] <Paola> Additional Restrictions (we are working on these!)
[13:01] <Paola>     Videos with ads are not supported (they will play in the Flash player)
[13:02] <Stanley00> Paola: which link?
[13:02] <Paola> yes this \
[13:02] <Paola> YouTube HTML5 Video Player
[13:02] <milsabor> anyone ?
[13:03] <Paola> Additional Restrictions (we are working on these!)
[13:03] <Paola>     Videos with ads are not supported (they will play in the Flash player)
[13:03] <Paola>     On Firefox and Opera, only videos with WebM transcodes will play in HTML5
[13:03] <Paola>     If you've opted in to other testtube experiments, you may not get the HTML5 player (Feather is supported, though)
[13:03] <FloodBot1> Paola: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:03] <Ormie> hi there.
[13:03] <luftikuss> iceroot, This worked all right. --  Thank you for your help.
[13:03] <Ormie> !flood > Paola
[13:03] <Stanley00> Paola: so what's the problem?
[13:03] <Paola> slow video on youtube
[13:04] <Ormie> that's flash issue
[13:04] <Ormie> Paola:that's flash issue
[13:04] <BluesKaj> html5 isn't supposed to use flash
[13:04] <Ormie> ?
[13:04] <Ormie> oh html5 ok
[13:04] <Paola> i dont know that flash isue .... how I can see command  ?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> I wish html didn't use it either
[13:05] <Stanley00> Paola: I mean "what's problem with that Additional Restrictions?"
[13:05] <Paola> i dont know all
[13:05] <Paola> tell me know command in terminal what the problem
[13:06] <Paola> What does my browser support?
[13:06] <Paola>     Alert icon
[13:06] <Paola>     Video tag
[13:06] <Paola>     Alert icon
[13:06] <Paola>     h.264
[13:06] <FloodBot1> Paola: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:06] <Paola>     Alert icon
[13:06] <Wiz_KeeD> what is a very good torrent client for ubuntu 12.04?
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD: transmission
[13:06] <Wiz_KeeD> the standard one?
[13:06] <Paola> oh excusa me for flod
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD: yes.  has worked beautifully for me
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> i use deluge
[13:07] <Stanley00> Paola: did you see "Join the HTML5 Trial" at the end of that page? click it and done.
[13:07] <Paola> is done there but where i can see  ?
[13:08] <Wiz_KeeD> i think transmission doesn't have the ability to recognise the same torrent and add more peers to the first one
[13:08] <milsabor> nobody can help me with my slow wi fi connexion issue ?
[13:08] <Stanley00> Paola: what's  your mother language please? maybe you should ask in your mother language.
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  try deluge
[13:08] <Paola> Romania
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD: sorry, I've never run into that issue so can't comment.
[13:09] <Paola> what this html5 and where click install or what   ?
[13:09] <Wiz_KeeD> i know Romanian, maybe i can help
[13:09] <Paola> ok
[13:09] <Paola> de ce misca greu video pe youtube  ?
[13:09] <smmsadrnezh> lightdm won't start. what should I do?
[13:09] <Wiz_KeeD> he wants to know why videos on youtube move sluggish
[13:09] <Wiz_KeeD> probably bad drivers i guess
[13:10] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD|paola private maybe?
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> html5 is using the webm feature. its an optional setting for youtube to pay videos in html5, instead of flash
[13:10] <Paola> ok
[13:10] <smmsadrnezh> and i can't stop it manually!
[13:10] <Paola> why move hard youtube video?
[13:10] <Paola> ok
[13:10] <smmsadrnezh> I do sudo lightdm stop
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> there are flash downloader extensions to let you download then watch the flash video locally. and 'flashreplacer' extensions to play flash videos in vlc or other media players
[13:11] <dontknow> Paola: what browser do you use? if you use chrome its flash is a little buggy for now
[13:11] <Stanley00> smmsadrnezh: service lightdm start|stop
[13:12] <smmsadrnezh> Stanley00: Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[13:12] <smmsadrnezh> utility, e.g. service lightdm stop
[13:12] <smmsadrnezh> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[13:12] <smmsadrnezh> Upstart job, you may also use the stop(8) utility, e.g. stop lightdm
[13:12] <Paola> Firefox browser this youtube
[13:13] <Stanley00> smmsadrnezh: so then, start|stop lightdm ;D
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> sudo service lightdm stop
[13:13] <Stanley00> !ro | Paola
[13:14] <romy_420> what is /etc/alternatives for? i installed AMD APP SDK for bitcoin mining and wanted to link the opencl lib under /usr/lib/X86_64. this was not possible because there already is an opencl lib linked from /etc/alternatives. not sure if i can remove them?!
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> !alternatives
[13:15] <Paola> stanley00 is offline there ubuntu-ro  :(
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> !info galternative
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> !info galternatives
[13:15] <Ristovski1> !mint
[13:16] <Wiz_KeeD> MonkeyDust, any ideea how i can setup firefox to open magnet links directly with deluge?
[13:16] <milsabor> hi, I have a slow wi fi connexion, and i notice that only on my laptop (the connection works fine with other ubuntu laptops), and only with this connexion (my laptop works fine with other wi fi connexion). Can someone help me to solve this problem ?
[13:16] <Tousurv> Hi, I have a problem with a HP Deskjet 3940 printer on 10.04 LTS, when I try to clean the print heads (since it doesn't seem to be able to print yellow, though the toner is new), I get an "Invalid printer command "Clean"" error
[13:16] <Stanley00> milsabor: what is your wifi card, and you got slow on all modem, or just this one?
[13:16] <usr13> milsabor: weak signal?
[13:17] <usr13> milsabor: iwconfig | pastebinit
[13:17] <milsabor> no weak signal, and just this modem
[13:17] <usr13> milsabor: look at /etc/resolv.conf  #See if you have a bogus nameserver listed first
[13:17] <luftikuss> I have a MySQL database ~/dbBegriffe2012. Putting into the Firefox address line the string »file:///home/<username>/dbBegriffe2012« does only produce an "Index of file:file:///home/<username>/dbBegriffe2012". Why does it not invoke phpMyAdmin and load this database?
[13:18] <usr13> milsabor: ... should have asked first;  Is it slow browsing, or slow download speeds?
[13:18] <Ormie> Dr_Willis: i used sudo apt-get upgrade and on my byobu desktop. it says that 6 updates are available. I then used sudo apt-get upgrade again, apt-get said everything was updated. but on byobu it's still 6 updates available. Weird...
[13:19] <milsabor> slow browsing, and slow ping for example
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  status maaaay only upsate every so often
[13:19] <Ormie> proper english!
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  i use torrents, explore deluge a bit, it's the best way to learn
[13:20] <milsabor> usr13 : here's the result of iwconfig : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1132425/
[13:20] <Ormie> Dr_Willis: it has been almost a day uptime.
[13:21] <Pici> Ormie: Did it say that any packages were held back? do you have anything pending in a dist-upgrade?
[13:21] <Wiz_KeeD> MonkeyDust, sorry torrets i meant, deluge is really cool i just have to link torrents to deluge automatically
[13:21] <Wiz_KeeD> duno how
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  mine was wrong a few min ago, then fixed itself. if you dont like it.. have it not show the updates in the status. or try turning it off then back on. hit f9
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  in byobu, press F9 to get rid of such information
[13:21] <Ormie> pici, never tried dist-upgrade...
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> i do dist upgrade like once a week
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  'open with'
[13:22] <Wiz_KeeD> then what? :))
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> daily with the beta ;)
[13:22] <Wiz_KeeD> not like i can select deluge.exe
[13:22] <Wiz_KeeD> :P
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  'open with deluge'
[13:22] <Wiz_KeeD> no such option from firefox, the context menu in the filesystem has it
[13:22] <Ormie> pici, i am on the stable release. If i do dist-upgrade will it upgrade to quantal quetzal?
[13:22] <Wiz_KeeD> wait i think i got it
[13:22] <Pici> Ormie: no
[13:23] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | Ormie
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  you're seeing it wrong, download the torrent, open it with the client of your choice
[13:23] <Ormie> ok
[13:23] <milsabor> usr13, in /etc/resolv.conf, i have two lines beginning with "nameserver" and an IP address
[13:23] <Ormie> thanks pici
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> dist-upgrade is a more intense upgrade.. not a release upgrade
[13:23] <usr13> milsabor: What is the first IP address?
[13:24] <usr13> milsabor: Does that first IP address actually resolve domain names?
[13:24] <milsabor> is it safe to give it ? (just asking, it does not seem to be my ip address)
[13:24] <milsabor> ah ok it's the IP of a DNS ?
[13:24] <usr13> milsabor: You can comment out the second one and see if you can still resolve a domain name.  host av.com
[13:25] <usr13> milsabor: Is it the IP of your router?
[13:25] <milsabor> nope
[13:25] <usr13> milsabor: Is the second one the IP of your router?
[13:25] <milsabor> nope
[13:26] <usr13> milsabor: host av.com  #Does that give immediate response?
[13:26] <usr13> milsabor: ... or does it take a while?
[13:26] <babalolol> ilove you u ubuntu
[13:26] <milsabor> it takes like 1 second
[13:26] <milsabor> no, immediate
[13:28] <usr13> milsabor: Well, probably not domain name resolution problem.
[13:28] <Tousurv> nevermind, I just found out about the hp-clean utility :)
[13:29] <usr13> milsabor: You could do a traceroute and see if it's hanging somewhere.  traceroute av.com
[13:30] <luftikuss> I have a MySQL database ~/dbBegriffe2012. Putting into the Firefox address line the string »file:///home/<username>/dbBegriffe2012« does only produce an "Index of file:///home/<username>/dbBegriffe2012". Why does it not invoke phpMyAdmin and load this database?
[13:30] <milsabor> usr13 : yes it is
[13:31] <usr13> milsabor: So where is it hanging?
[13:31] <milsabor> well, i don't know, 3 stars each time ..
[13:31] <frega> hi, is this a good place to ask about external monitors on a macbook air (2012 w/ ubuntu 12.04) or is there a dedicated channel for mac+ubuntu?
[13:31] <usr13> milsabor: I would comment out the second nameserver just to make sure that first one is not working....
[13:31] <cfhowlett> frega: there's a mac channel
[13:32] <Ormie> what are the limitations of launchpad trial?
[13:32] <Ormie> um...
[13:32] <Ormie> landscape
[13:32] <milsabor> ok i try that
[13:33] <AdvoWork> anyone recommend a program that will take say 20,000 files, and convert into x folders based on size, ie total = 20 gig, i want folders in size of no bigger than 4GB
[13:33] <usr13> milsabor: But I notice that in the output of iwconfig it shows Bit Rate=240 Mb/s  and I dont really thing it can go at 240 megabits per second, but... prolly not important.
[13:33] <Ormie> what are the limitations of landscape trial?
[13:33] <milsabor> the first address was 212.27.40.241, and the second one 212.27.40.240
[13:33] <frega> cfhowlett: do you know the channel name? (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList doesnt list anything mac-specific afaics)
[13:34] <cfhowlett> frega: looking now.  gonna have to check the mac/ubuntu forum i think
[13:34] <milsabor> well, that's what i thought at the beginning. My wifi card handles wifi n, and my modem does not, so i tried to change the bit rate to 54Mb/s, but i didn't succeed to do it
[13:38] <gitesh> How do I restore ubuntu 12.04 to yesterday?
[13:38] <gitesh> I am crappy changes to ethernet today
[13:38] <gitesh> *made
[13:39] <usr13> milsabor: If you have another PC on your LAN with a fairly large file, you could scp it and check the speed at which is downloads, (to see what you are really getting across the LAN).
[13:40] <cfhowlett> frega: sorry, couldn't find it.  Perhaps I was wrong?  Searched for Mactel project and IRC channel - no joy
[13:42] <proxx8187> Anyone uses USB->DVI/VGA adapter ??? , im considering buying 1 or 2 but i also understood thats can be a lot of trouble ???
[13:43] <frega> cfhowlett: thanks a lot anyway!
[13:43] <elspuddy_>  im trying to figure out why my drive shaire has stoped working, here is a copy of my log file for samba/nmbd http://paste.ubuntu.com/1132196/
[13:44] <livingdaylight> Hi, I'm running FireFox in Ubuntu but my question is really in regards to FF, is that cool? No one in FF is responding :/
[13:45] <cfhowlett> livingdaylight: if it's not too ff or mozilla specific.  go for it...
[13:45] <proxx8187> just ask , well burn you down later
[13:45] <livingdaylight>  In the process of installation  I forgot to keep FF browsers synced and can't now recover my keys. I'm following instructions in the dialog how to Recover Key but at least here the dialogs don't match the instructions and I'm going round in circles.
[13:46] <romica_> Problems: I run the commands below to download Adobe Air executable.
[13:46] <usr13> elspuddy_: Prolly need to see /etc/samba/smb.conf as well.
[13:46] <Exposure_> where can I find a list of packages that will be installed in a default ubuntu desktop installation?
[13:46] <romica_> and aper: 100% [Waiting for headers]
[13:46] <livingdaylight_> I'm following this page: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Replace%20your%20Sync%20information - " 3. In the Sync tab click on Manage Account and select My Recovery Key. "  I don't see "manage account" anywhere in preferences; certainly not in the "Sync" tab, nor do I find the "select my recovery key" option
[13:46] <milsabor> usr13 : i'm currently trying that but it seems that for some reason I can't connect to my laptop with ssh
[13:46] <cfhowlett> livingdaylight: never done that procedure, but if you're getting differing dialogs, I'd guess there's a mismatch between tutorial and installed software.
[13:47] <livingdaylight> cfhowlett: err, yea, exactly. It rather poses a dilemma. Rather like putting a mouse in a round room and telling it there is cheese in the corner.
[13:48] <cfhowlett> livingdaylight: appropos AND poetic.  sorry I couldn't be more help.
[13:48] <assunta> salve, come si condivide una stamante tra 2 pc ubuntu ?
[13:48] <Pici> !it | assunta
[13:50] <proxx8187> Anyone uses USB->DVI/VGA adapter ??? , im considering buying 1 or 2 but i also understood thats can be a lot of trouble ???
[13:50] <Ormie> ubottu: multilanguage!
[13:51] <Ormie> !th
[13:51] <Ormie> sigh... not this..
[13:51] <frega> any pointers on where to start debugging external monitors w/ a macbook air? everything works dandily ...
[13:52] <radslav> VIP$damian$VIP
[13:52] <radslav> hello
[13:52] <cfhowlett> radslav: greetings
[13:53] <radslav> frega???
[13:53] <radslav> WTF???
[13:53] <milsabor> usr13: ok it works
 /var/logs/xorg.log?
[13:54] <cfhowlett> frega: ubuntu apple forums @ http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=328 and mactel support @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam
[13:54] <milsabor> usr13 : but it's quite slow, it begun at 100K/S, and now 1Ko/S ..
[13:55] <zykotick9> proxx8187: is it really that path on ubuntu?  i have /var/log/Xorg.0.log myself (log vs. logs)  frega
[13:55] <milsabor> usr13 : ok now 0Ko/S ..
[13:55] <Ormie> my application has a simple install.sh script and uninstall.sh script and my program's source at source/ directory. How can I turn that in to .deb package?
[13:55] <Blade> hello
[13:56] <cfhowlett> Blade: greetings
[13:56] <Ormie> Blade, hi
[13:56] <Ormie> Blade, how can we help?
[13:57] <elspuddy_> usr13, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1132494/ :)
[13:57] <BlueEagle> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I don't think I'll be moving my HDDs today, but thanks for the advice.. (And happy tab-complete day to you)
[13:57] <llutz> !packaging | Ormie
[13:59] <Ormie> that's alot of things. I won't do it. thanks
[14:00] <jahid> how can i give access to a folder to a group?
[14:00] <killer> hi.... installed ubuntu 12.04 on my lappy but no sound...anyone can help
[14:00] <killer> ?
[14:01] <Ormie> "Register for an Ubuntu Advantage trial" << I want landscape only. I don't want ubuntu advantage. thanks.
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> killer  in a terminal, type alsamixer
[14:01] <Ormie> killer, alsa reset
[14:01] <Ormie> and try again
[14:02] <Ormie> how do you guys normally get linux newbies to run a terminal and type commands? :s
[14:02] <zykotick9> jahid: "sudo chown :GROUPYOUWANT /path/to/folder" then probably "sudo chmod g+wrx /path/to/folder"
[14:03] <rundmc> hi, i tried to install ubuntu-restricted-extras and now apt is stuck on downloading flashplugin alsready 2 days, i tried dpkg --configure -a , didn't help, any advice?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Ormie, usually it's not too difficult , once they try commands successfully they're usually hooked :)
[14:05] <Ormie> ah.. ok
[14:05] <rahul_> Can anyone please tell me good video editor for ubuntu?
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> rahul_  openshot
[14:05] <peterrus> I could say pitivi
[14:06] <peterrus> but it is rudimental
[14:06] <rahul_> Thanks MonkeyDust
[14:06] <peterrus> dont know about openshot though
[14:06] <llutz> rahul_: kdenlive
[14:06] <Ormie> BluesKaj: my mom used ms products for 30 years I told her to type a command in linux and it works but she wasn't hooked. :s
[14:06] <rahul_> thanks llutz, i will try both.
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Ormie, make sure they understand the links between the package managers and apt and that dpkg is the actual engine that installs and removes packages
[14:06] <peterrus> Ormie: probably because she was not aware of the context
[14:06] <peterrus> BluesKaj: exactly
[14:07] <peterrus> you need to let the understand that is no magic
[14:07] <peterrus> them*
[14:07] <peterrus> it is*
[14:07] <Ormie> ha ha ok
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Ormie, package managers are just a GUI and the cli is a more direct method
[14:07] <peterrus> rundmc: restricted-extras is a metapackage, which means it is a shortcut to multiple packages
[14:07] <llutz> more important to let them know, that cli isn't anything anachronistic
[14:08] <peterrus> rundmc: so you could install the individual packages
[14:08] <Ormie> ok
[14:08] <peterrus> rundmc: and skip flash
[14:08] <peterrus> this is a workaround, you will still need to install flash, but at least you can update ;)
[14:08] <peterrus> also try an apt-get clean
[14:08] <peterrus> apt-cache clean* (?)
[14:08] <Narcotico> hi
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Ormie, for starters , then there are all the other commands to do with files and networking to learn
[14:08] <Narcotico> im from  brasil
[14:09] <tech1> i have a weird bug. i made a custom gtk theme in /usr/share/themes, and had to use "sudo gedit gtkrc" and was fine.. but when i rebooted today. if i sudo open the file, it is just blank, where as if i open it without sudo the file data is there. this seems strange to me. is it a weird bug? or something obvious im missing
[14:09] <Ormie> heh... i recalled that newbies would use ubuntu software center to download what they need but for me i: sudo apt-get install geany bleachbit bless wine xchat cheese ; lol :D
[14:09] <Narcotico> alguem br?
[14:09] <peterrus> Narcotico: there probably is a spanish channel
[14:09] <zykotick9> rundmc: i'd personally try "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get -f install" and see if that fixes teh flash download issue...
[14:09] <rundmc> zykotick9, thanks, ill try that
[14:10] <Ormie> Are you interested in Canonical support products? (Required) <<< What does canonical want? Choice Yes/No. Thing is: all i need is landscape.
[14:10] <peterrus> Ormie: it is probably just a survey?
[14:11] <rundmc> zykotick9, no, this brings me to the same situation again, it keeps trying to download flash again, is there a way to make apt start a frensh ?
[14:11] <zykotick9> rundmc: sorry i don't have any other suggestions for ya.  good luck
[14:11] <peterrus> rundmc: remove flash, then blacklist the package, and install restricted-extras
[14:11] <proxx8187> Anyone uses USB->DVI/VGA adapter ??? , im considering buying 1 or 2 but i also understood thats can be a lot of trouble ???
[14:11] <peterrus> dont ask me how, I only know it is possible
[14:11] <Ormie> peterrus: i am gonna register landscape to manage 1 desktop PC remotely.
[14:12] <peterrus> Ormie: that is not what landscape is for afaik
[14:12] <rundmc> peterrus, how do i do that ?
[14:12] <peterrus> but you can always try ;)
[14:12] <Ormie> ?
 dont ask me how, I only know it is possible
[14:12] <Ormie> :s
[14:12] <peterrus> Ormie: landscape as in a large amount of workstations and servers
[14:12] <peterrus> not just one PC
[14:12] <rundmc> oh
[14:12] <peterrus> you can do it
[14:12] <peterrus> but is overkill
[14:12] <peterrus> I have no experience with it though
[14:12] <peterrus> g2g also
[14:12] <Ormie> ok
[14:13] <Ormie> bye
[14:13] <Ormie> good night
[14:13] <Ormie> :P
[14:13] <FloodBot1> Ormie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:13] <Ormie> gah.. sorry
[14:13] <peterrus> lol
[14:14] <peterrus> Ormie: but you can probably just answer yes or no, as long as you dont have to pay anything, why not?
[14:14] <peterrus> and if you accidentally order something
[14:14] <peterrus> you can always cancel your order
[14:14] <peterrus> its ubuntu after all
[14:14] <peterrus> it´s not like they are going to silently charge you
[14:14] <Ormie> ok
[14:14] <Ormie> now, you are flooding! yay! :D
[14:15] <Ormie> peterrus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:15] <peterrus> 0_0
[14:16] <Ormie> peterrus: nvm. go to bed.
[14:16] <peterrus> it 16:00
[14:16] <peterrus> why would I Xd
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> other segment of te
[14:17] <October82> please, can you tell me how to install adobe air on ubuntu 12.04
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> other segment of the planet
[14:17] <zykotick9> October82: AdobeAir is dead on gnu/linux.  why install it?
[14:18] <October82> because is needed to play "desura" games
[14:18] <peterrus> air is needed for a lot of things
[14:18] <peterrus> how come its dead?
[14:18] <zykotick9> peterrus: because adobe said so...
[14:18] <Blade> Hi Ormie
[14:18] <gitesh> would you link me somewhere to learn all network configurations in Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[14:18] <Blade> Is it normal that gnome-media-player won't work under Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> October82  complain @ adobe
[14:19] <peterrus> October82: ah well if you have a decent PC run windows in a VM
[14:19] <peterrus> and lets hope desura is no 3d game
[14:20] <Joshua_MG> hi all. I wanto to use loadkeys to load us-deadkeys. Any help?
[14:21] <AdvoWork> I'm having problems doing some mounts, ie it's asking for a password, on my old server it doesn't. Its also mentioning mount: wrong fs type, bad option   because i'm missing something. What do I have to install,I forgot what i put onto the old server now :S
[14:22] <geoffw8_> Hello everyone
[14:22] <geoffw8_> I have two servers connected by a crossover cable, sitting in a datacenter
[14:22] <geoffw8_> the DC guys have told me to "configure second ethernet"
[14:22] <geoffw8_> is that as easy as changing the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[14:24] <gitesh> nvm
[14:25] <Ormie> Ubuntu server kills redhat! :-)
[14:25] <pierre_ubuntuing> need help ubuntu 12.04 64bit software centre. if i buy a game it takes me to ubuntu single user login to login and when i login i get a blank screen. i already registered for that and received a code which i used to activate my account, but still cannot buy a game. i tried with 2 specific games that i couldn't buy, but the demos downloaded and worked. please can someone help me, or tell me if i'm doing something wrong.
[14:26] <mneptok> AdvoWork: "Advo" like the former US direct mail company?
[14:26] <ServerTechLaptop> My Ubuntu 11.10 VPS suddenly started refusing SSH on port 22 after installing XAMPP (Just telling you the previous operation). I tried adding an SSH incoming rule on IPtables and even turning it off. But not working. Could it be OpenSSH itself? Any suggestions? (I have console access through it's online control panel, so that's not a problem)
[14:26] <schmakk> hello. i just rebooted my server and its giving me [numbers] sd 4:0:0:0 [sdb] Asking for cache data failed repeatedly on the console. i tried upgrading and rebooting, but its still there. it is not responding to ssh and i cant get in touch with any services running on it. help :)
[14:27] <bieb> if ubuntu 10.10 is an LTS and was released in 2010.. why does it tell me it is no longer supported when I do updates?
[14:27] <llutz> ServerTechLaptop: "sudo lsof -i :22"   doest it listen at all?
[14:27] <zykotick9> xampp | ServerTechLaptop
[14:27] <zykotick9> !xampp | ServerTechLaptop
[14:27] <itatitat> ey guys, I insltalled just now linux, but was working very slow!
[14:27] <roasted> hello!
[14:28] <itatitat> I've never seen linux working so slow
[14:28] <Ormie> Oh god I will give up on landscape
[14:28] <itatitat> I tried some years ago, but was faster
[14:28] <ServerTechLaptop> zykotick9, not talking of an XAMPP install.
[14:28] <mneptok> Ormie: contact Canonical for issues with Landscape.
[14:28] <ServerTechLaptop> llutz, no output.
[14:29] <llutz> ServerTechLaptop: so ssh doesn't run/listen on port 22 at all. restart the service
[14:29] <Ormie> mneptok: sir, yes, sir.
[14:29] <roasted> My 12.04 system is not holding on to the time like it should. I run owncloud on it, whcih requires the clock to be within 10 seconds accurate to work. For the 4th time, it's errored out citing it's not correct. What can I do to ensure Ubuntu 12.04 is always correct on time?Best I can think of is cron a "ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com" job every night...
[14:29] <ServerTechLaptop> llutz, i tried restarting, didn't work.
[14:29] <llutz> !dontwork | ServerTechLaptop
[14:30] <ServerTechLaptop> Lol hold on llutz
[14:31] <pierre_ubuntuing> anyone
[14:32] <itatitat> ey guys
[14:33] <itatitat> my buntu in my laptop is veeeeeery slow!
[14:33] <rene_> hello
[14:33] <itatitat> is impossible......is ubuntu....
[14:33] <ServerTechLaptop> llutz, http://pastebin.com/UjPKfjuX No output whatsoever, nor an error while restarting the ssh service.
[14:33] <luftikuss> I notice that two Ubuntu computers of mine have different UID and GID for users like mysql. This complicates restoring backups. Does Ubuntu provide means to assimilate UIDs and GIDs?
[14:33] <llutz> ServerTechLaptop: "sudo service ssh restart"  check /var/log/syslog
[14:34] <rene_> i need some help with 12.04 and wireless using iwlwifi and gnome network mananger
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> itatitat  make sure there's not too many kernels in /
[14:34] <rene_> its not able to establish a connection:  <info> (wlan0): device state change: unavailable -> disconnected (reason 'supplicant-available')
[14:34] <llutz> ServerTechLaptop: or /var/log/daemon  (not sure were ubuntu ssh logs to by default)
[14:34] <rene_> if i create a wpa.conf manually and start wpa_supplicant manually i got it working
[14:34] <itatitat> nono, is the first time I try ubuntu in years....so...I've only one
[14:35] <rene_> upgrading packages does not help
[14:35] <itatitat> is slow even for the most simple...
[14:35] <Jat421> anyone has experience with freeswtich on ubuntu 12.04?
[14:35] <Jat421> *freeswitch
[14:35] <itatitat> I installed my ubuntu with wubi
[14:36] <rene_> any hints the networkmanager problem?
[14:36] <itatitat> maybe is because of that?, mustnt because is a partition as usually no?
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> itatitat  wubi:(
[14:36] <itatitat> is not good?
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> itatitat  better install it from cd or usb, on it's own partition
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> its*
[14:37] <itatitat> so maybe is because of that?..
[14:37] <pierre_ubuntuing> any help with software center
[14:37] <dylan> hey, I need to automate the deletion of a file
[14:37] <mike_yung> Can anyone tell me what this install error MSG is trying to tell me?     http://instagram.com/p/N_Ut-cBShT/
[14:37] <itatitat> ok, but....how can I install ubuntu keeping windows?
[14:37] <pierre_ubuntuing> anyone
[14:37] <DJones> !dualboot | itatitat
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> itatitat  if you have enough space left, ubuntu can install next to it, you then get a grub menu, so you can choose
[14:38] <ryao> How do I debootstrap karmic?
[14:38] <Jat421> dylan use rm with schedule it
[14:38] <dylan> Jat421 rm with schdule it?
[14:38] <Jat421> using cron
[14:38] <dylan> I don;t know what that is
[14:38] <Jat421> rm <filename>
[14:38] <Jat421> that will delete the file you want
[14:39] <ServerTechLaptop> llutz, http://pastebin.com/9qi4nPrL Don't see anything is the syslog though, still checking.
[14:39] <DJones> pierre_ubuntuing: You need to explain what the problem is first, what happens, what do you expect to happen, what is going wrong etc
[14:39] <Jat421> and then you can put that command in crontab
[14:39] <dylan> what is crontab?
[14:39] <llutz> ServerTechLaptop: "pgrep sshd"
[14:39] <dylan> sorry
[14:39] <eightieskhild> so my internet is extremly slow
[14:39] <eightieskhild> any workarounds
[14:39] <Jat421> it's like a schedule task in windows
[14:40] <eightieskhild> running 12.04
[14:40] <ServerTechLaptop> llutz, was it expected to give an output, still nothing.
[14:40] <eightieskhild> !ethtool
[14:40] <ryao> How do I debootstrap 9.10?
[14:40] <Jat421> do crontab -e
[14:40] <llutz> ServerTechLaptop: sudo grep -ri sshd /var/log/*
[14:40] <Jat421> to edit the crontab file
[14:41] <pierre_ubuntuing> need help ubuntu 12.04 64bit software centre. if i buy a game it takes me to ubuntu single user login to login and when i login i get a blank screen. i already registered for that and received a code which i used to activate my account, but still cannot buy a game. i tried with 2 specific games that i couldn't buy, but the demos downloaded and worked. please can someone help me, or tell me if i'm doing something wrong.
[14:41] <dylan> nano defkill
[14:41] <dylan> whoops
[14:41] <luftikuss> ryao, Why 9.10?
[14:41] <ryao> luftikuss: The instructions for building Asus firmware require it: http://www.lostrealm.ca/tower/node/84
[14:42] <ryao> I tried 10.04. It fails to build... I am hoping that is because of a system difference rather than the developer not publishing the sources he uses to build.
[14:42] <ryao> Or rather, publishing different sources.
[14:42] <ServerTechLaptop> llutz, first line indicates a successful login yesterday, http://pastebin.com/FGtRjyXV
[14:43] <mike_yung> Can anyone tell me what this error logo is trying to tell me?     http://instagram.com/p/N_Ut-cBShT/    It happens when I try to boot the installer.
[14:43] <ryao> This appears to do it: debootstrap --arch amd64 karmic /mnt/ubuntu http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[14:44] <h00k> mike_yung: that isn't an error, that's where you can change keyboard layout or accesability option
[14:44] <dylan> Jag421: I should have been a little more precise.  I'm writing a shell script, it needs to check if a process is running, and then if that process is running, search for a file.   If that file exists, it then needs to delete it.
[14:44] <inca> i'm conecting two ubuntu 12.04 machines can anyone would give me an example of ip, gateway and dns to set in each one ?
[14:44] <dylan> Jag421:then rinse and repeaat uintil that process is no longer running
[14:45] <h00k> mike_yung: if there's errors, it would be displayed in text
[14:45] <llutz> ServerTechLaptop: "sudo /usr/sbin/sshd &"  "sudo lsof -i :22"
[14:46] <mike_yung> Tks, h00k.   How long should I be waiting for the installer to continue?   It did that for 20 minutes then I gave up.
[14:46] <luftikuss> ryao, I don'tthink that there was ever a "Ubuntu 9.10 LTS 64-bit".
[14:46] <panorama> how do you find the linux distro i am using
[14:46] <panorama> by using terminal commands?
[14:46] <llutz> panorama: lsb_release -sc
[14:46] <h00k> mike_yung: that appears to be the bootloader of your installation media, do you have anything else on your screen?
[14:46] <smartboyhw> !support
[14:46] <Jat421> dylan: yea that should be not hard to accomplish
[14:47] <mike_yung> Nope, just the graphic.
[14:47] <Jat421> use can use ps and then look for the process
[14:47] <mike_yung> H00k, nope just the graphic
[14:48] <panorama> thanks llutz
[14:48] <llutz> dylan: "pgrep processname && rm path/to/file"
[14:48] <h00k> mike_yung: when you began booting, did it give you options like "Boot from first hard drive" or "Test memory"?
[14:49] <luftikuss> I notice that two Ubuntu computers of mine have different UID and GID for users like mysql. This complicates restoring backups. Does Ubuntu provide means to assimilate UIDs and GIDs?
[14:49] <Jat421> nice llutz
[14:49] <Jat421> that was simple :)
[14:49] <mike_yung> H00k, I'm not sure.  Stand by while I reproduce.
[14:50] <ServerTechLaptop> llutz, http://pastebin.com/rJd5yNJK
[14:51] <llutz> ServerTechLaptop: sudo apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server
[14:51] <h00k> mike_yung: I'm just using Google Image search, but it should...ooh, hang a sec
[14:51] <h00k> mike_yung: what version are you booting?
[14:52] <e66> how can I associate all my media files with VLC? when I right click a .mkv file I see only a opne menu. No 'open with' other wise I could select the default program.
[14:52] <mike_yung> h00k, solved it.   Error MSG is from the floppy I use to help this box boot from USB.
[14:52] <h00k> e66: You can right click, properties, "Open With" tab
[14:53] <ServerTechLaptop> llutz, well, that was pretty easy. Thanks for the help, never thought of just reinstalling it.
[14:53] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:53] <h00k> mike_yung: ah, okay. That screen tries to convey "Press a button for options"
[14:53] <llutz> ServerTechLaptop: more interesting would be to know, WHY it was gone...
[14:53] <h00k> mike_yung: I think that's the one you're seeing
[14:53] <DarkAceZ> "!netsplit"?
[14:54] <ServerTechLaptop> llutz, don't now. Another person installed XAMPP for me anyway. Never checked what he was doing. It was just after that time. That install shouldn't have caused the problem anyway.
[14:54] <e66> h00k: In the properties thre is no open with menu. Its happening only to movie collection folder. If the movie is somewhere else I see the open with menu!
[14:55] <BluesKaj> Guest10869, did you ever get your m-audio audio working ?
[14:55] <e66> h00k: sorry. s/open with menu/open with tab/
[14:55] <llutz> ServerTechLaptop: anyways, tell him to use the repo-packages instead of xampp in the future :)
[14:57] <e66> Oops. Ubuntu has experienced an internal error. ExecutablePath /usr/bin/nautilus. Segfault on g_type_check().
[14:57] <e66> o_O
[14:57] <SpaceAviator> so I managed to installed arch linux but I kept trying to install catalyst drivers and it never really succeeded. So I went back to ubuntu but since then I keep getting a new error no matter what distro I boot. It says hda codec out of range. and the splash screen for ubuntu also is one of the basic ones now instead of the fancy ones. anyone know what could possibly be up?
[14:58] <h00k> e66: you could definitely report a bug if you'd like :)
[14:58] <h00k> mike_yung: did you get it taken care of?
[14:59] <e66> well Ubuntu generated a bug report interface. I just pressed continue. I am not sure if this will be reported as bug?
[14:59] <inca> i'm conecting two ubuntu 12.04 machines in network, each one has two network devices, one for internet and the other one for samba. My question is how do i configure the ip, mask, gateway and dns in each one not for internet, but for database betwen two machines
[14:59] <SpaceAviator> anyone?
[14:59] <e66> Everytime I see such interface I let it do what it wants.
[15:00] <h00k> e66: cool.
[15:05] <kukulambar> hi how do i defrag hard drive in ubuntu?
[15:05] <magicalChicken> kukulambar: depends on fs type if it is ext3 or ext4 as it probably is then you don't
[15:07] <BluesKaj> !defrag | kukulambar
[15:07] <h00k> kukulambar: you don't have to ;)
[15:08] <kukulambar> i always do that in Windows but in Ubuntu I don't have to?
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> kukulambar: you got it
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> correct
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> no need for constant anti virus scanning either
[15:09] <mneptok> kukulambar: and really, NTFS does not need that kind of attention, either. constant defrag is vestigal work from the FAT days.
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> win7 has some sort of defrag in the background feature i belive
[15:11] <kukulambar> mneptok: some says it improves the performance in NTFS but i am not using NTFS in ubuntu  :-)
[15:11] <mneptok> kukulambar: they're only half right.
[15:12] <mneptok> kukulambar: "If you defrag, you can save time in opening files ad apps." true. is it ENOUGH time saved to offset the 30 minutes of defrag? probably not.
[15:12] <codingenesis> i want to host  ubuntu repositories in my country. tell me the procedure about it.
[15:13] <Pici> !newmirror | codingenesis
[15:13] <kukulambar> mneptok: i guess that NTFS is the one that i have to maintain defagmentation.. not in other OSes  that I know  Linux,MacOS
[15:13] <codingenesis> Pici, :)
[15:13] <mneptok> kukulambar: and i am telling you that defragging NTFS is mostly pointless.
[15:14] <Ormie> hi
[15:14] <Ormie> sorrymyeng?
[15:14] <Ormie> >.>
[15:16] <kukulambar> mneptok: wow  are you telling the folks at redmond create a pointless feature http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa363911%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
[15:18] <downloader> Is it not possible to install ruby on rails from the repositories?
[15:18] <h00k> !info rails | downloader
[15:19] <Myrtti> kukulambar: "In a wide range of modern multi-user operating systems, an ordinary user cannot defragment the system disks since superuser (or "Administrator") access is required to move system files. Additionally, file systems such as NTFS are designed to decrease the likelihood of fragmentation."
[15:19] <downloader> h00k: Isn't version 3 the latest (and has been for a long time?)
[15:19] <Myrtti> kukulambar: what was your actual support question?
[15:20] <kukulambar> how to defrag in Ubuntu and i got it
[15:20] <h00k> downloader: there's a gem you can grab that has 3, I think the repository has an older refersion
[15:20] <h00k> *reversion
[15:20] <radiske> hey guys, i need some help with backup
[15:20] <h00k> downloader: *version. I need more coffee.
[15:21] <downloader> h00k: Yeah, my question is why do I have to use a gem?
[15:22] <radiske> im using this guide to backup http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[15:22] <tati|2> guys, Im thinking to format my pc and install completely ubuntu, in that way is supossed to be faster than with wuby no?
[15:22] <radiske> but now i have to restore and im getting errors
[15:23] <h00k> downloader: because the repository version is not up-to-date. Why it's not, I don't know, but maybe the packaging team needs some help ;)
[15:25] <mike_yung> h00k,  re: http://instagram.com/p/N_Ut-cBShT/   It turns out this is from Ubuntu's installer after all.   I can answer your question now.  No, I'm not being asked if I want to boot from the HD.  The installer goes to this graphic pretty early in the install.  First thing I see is the SYSLINUX version & copyright info.  2nd line is loading boot logo...    Then it goes to the graphic & waits and waits & waits.
[15:25] <magicalChicken> tati|2: yes that should be better than wubi, and you can always just shrink your old os partition and dualboot
[15:26] <tati|2> ok....I'll make a backup and try
[15:26] <tati|2> thanks
[15:28] <Asad2005> can i use an SSD drive as a cache drive in ubuntu?
[15:28] <luwei> #kernelnewbies
[15:28] <elfranne> strange question when you have a terminal open get username@computername is it possible to put a time stamp in there ?
[15:28] <h00k> mike_yung: You should be able to press ESC and see what it's doing, if it is on the loading screen. Does that get you anywhere?
[15:29] <radiske> is there any way to undo auto remove?
[15:30] <mike_yung> Thanks h00k, I was trying alt-F1.  I'm sure it will be downhill from here.
[15:30] <radiske> i did that with an upgrade and my server are completely screwed
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> elfranne: trivial. see the 'bash prompt howto' or just use byobu ;)
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> !prompt
[15:30] <Asad2005> I have read an artickle on native zfs on ubuntu, now if a make a mirror pool of 2 drives can i use that as home partition
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> <3 byobu
[15:31] <jamiejackson> I'm missing the menu in Audacity. I'm on Gnome in 12.04. How do I get the menu to display?
[15:32] <xangua> jamiejackson: over the panel
[15:32] <radiske> someone can help me with undo auto remove?
[15:32] <pierre_ubuntuing> need help ubuntu 12.04 64bit software centre. if i buy a game it takes me to ubuntu single user login to login and when i login i get a blank screen. i already registered for that and received a code which i used to activate my account, but still cannot buy a game. i tried with 2 specific games that i couldn't buy, but the demos downloaded and worked. please can someone help me, or tell me if i'm doing something wrong.
[15:33] <xangua> jamiejackson: never mind, confuse audacity with audacious
[15:34] <jamiejackson> k
[15:34] <end_guy> I have a NVIDIA Corporation GF106 [GeForce GT 555M] (rev a1) (according to lspci) buy jockey-gtk reports no accelerated drivers. Is there anything I can try to get the accelerated graphics drivers to work?
[15:35] <end_guy> s/buy/but/
[15:35] <n00bzz> hello, how can i add mouse theme in xfce?
[15:35] <genewitch> end_guy: did you install the restricted drivers?
[15:35] <_pHI_> r1
[15:35] <end_guy> genewitch: jockey doesn't report that there are any available..
[15:37] <jamiejackson> found a workaround for audacity's missing menu: export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0 && audacity
[15:38] <genewitch> jamiejackson: you can just do UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0 audacity
[15:38] <AdvoWork> when doing say ls -all whats the 4096 i keep seeing?
[15:38] <jamiejackson> ok, thx genewitch
[15:38] <genewitch> AdvoWork: the size of a directory
[15:38] <unless> Hello folks!
[15:39] <genewitch> AdvoWork: also "-all" is the same as "-al" you might be looking for "-alh"
[15:39] <unless> Where can I find older Ubuntu versions to download?
[15:39] <David23400> I've installed lubuntu on my 1.7GHZ CPU 512MB RAM PC and its SLOOOOOOOOOOOOW , what i do?? ( is it because i've installed it with windows installer?)
[15:40] <genewitch> unless: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> David23400  wubi :(
[15:40] <genewitch> David23400: that's a really slow machine. i bet it's hammering swap
[15:41] <David23400> this is because of wubi?
[15:41] <mneptok> David23400: mostly, yes.
[15:41] <W4sp> David23400: Does it swap?
[15:41] <David23400> what is swap?
[15:42] <genewitch> David23400: ... using hard disc as ram
[15:42] <unless> genewitch, do you know a good stable lighter version of Ubuntu to download if 12.04 is quite heavy to my machine please?
[15:42] <mneptok> David23400: you are running Ubuntu from a disk image stored on a Windows NTFS partition. anything that uses the disk goes through an entirely needless extraction layer.
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> unless  try lubuntu
[15:42] <David23400> I dont know , how can i know
[15:43] <genewitch> MonkeyDust: he is on lu
[15:43] <David23400> So i format a drive and install lubuntu from boot?
[15:43] <David23400> to be fast?
[15:43] <genewitch> David23400: you can check top in a terminal
[15:43] <jing> hey guys, I'm trying to build vlc from source, but 'apt-get build-dep vlc' is giving me errors I don't understand. Can someone tell me how to resolve this issue: "libbluray-dev : Depends: libbluray1 (= 1:0.2.2-1~precise1) but it is not going to be installed"?
[15:43] <mneptok> David23400: you free up disk space or get an unused disk, and run the Lubuntu installer by booting from the image.
[15:43] <genewitch> control shift "t" and type "top" when the black window comes up
[15:43] <unless> MonkeyDust, I don't like the visual changes is happening on Ubuntu actually, so I prefer a old version instead.
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> jing  vlc is in the repos, no need to build it
[15:44] <mneptok> genewitch: "free -m" is much more user friendly for checking swap usage.
[15:44] <David23400> mneptop do you mean i burn lubuntu on a CD and run it in boot?
[15:44] <David23400> and then i installed it on a drive?
[15:44] <escapeplan> What can I do to make Docky intellihide the menu if I cannot use gconf nor make the docky glowing in the settings
[15:44] <mneptok> David23400: yes.
[15:44] <jing> MonkeyDust: I'm want to write some bugfixes.
[15:44] <jing> *I
[15:44] <n00bzz> hello, how in XFCE can i add mouse cursors i downloaded?
[15:45] <David23400> mneptok with this way , can i use just some parts of a drive like on wubi? for example just 20gb of a drive for lyubuntu without wiping it ?
[15:45] <jing> where can I read about PPAs and how they work?
[15:45] <mneptok> David23400: yes. just get that space unused by Windows, or use a disk with existing free space.
[15:46] <mneptok> David23400: unpartitioned free space
[15:46] <kristenbb> what is the gnome-settings-daemon and why is it using 100% of my cpu (or at least one of my cores) ?
[15:46] <David23400> mneptop can you just tell me which ubuntu is fit for my PC with these specs: 1.7ghz 512ram? I want it to be really smooth and without laggs
[15:47] <David23400> mneptok can you just tell me which ubuntu is fit for my PC with these specs: 1.7ghz 512ram? I want it to be really smooth and without laggs
[15:47] <mneptok> David23400: our opinions on "smooth" may be vastly different. so i can't say. but Xubuntu or Lubuntu is probably a good choice.
[15:48] <mneptok> David23400: please do not repeat yourself so quickly
[15:48] <David23400> Sorry i thought you havent be nick alarmed because i had typed your name wrongly
[15:49] <David23400> And thanks for the infromations , do i download lubuntu from here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[15:49] <mneptok> David23400: i'm well trained to respond to most names. my wife is a really tough woman. ;)
[15:49] <David23400> :))
[15:49] <n00bzz> hello, how in XFCE can i add mouse cursors i downloaded?
[15:49] <mneptok> David23400: if you installed via Wubi, don't you already have the installer .iso file?
[15:50] <David23400> Does it download the ISO with wubi?
[15:50] <David23400> Where is it saved?
[15:50] <mneptok> David23400: how did you getthings running via Wubi?
[15:50] <mneptok> David23400: you had to go download *something*
[15:51] <David23400> wubi downloaded and insatlled at the same time itself
[15:51] <David23400> I dont know if it downloaded ISO file and then installed
[15:51] <Luig1> Hello
[15:51] <mneptok> David23400: got a CD burner and a blank CD?
[15:51] <David23400> yes i have
[15:52] <mneptok> David23400: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[15:52] <Luig1> I'm trying to pick a laptop on which to put Ubuntu 12.04. It has to be HP or Lenovo (due to certain blanket discounts I'd be eligible for from those two manufacturers) and the sticking point for me is the graphics card
[15:52] <Luig1> I've been burned by Intel graphics before
[15:53] <mneptok> David23400: download that, and use whatever burning software you have to create a disc from that image file. reboot, and boot off CD.
[15:53] <Luig1> So I'd been working under the assumption that nvidia would work best with Ubuntu
[15:53] <David23400> Okay thanks , i hope you will be here when i'm installing it
[15:53] <Luig1> But now I'm starting to wonder if a cheaper AMD board with a Radeon card might not work just as well for graphics purposes
[15:53] <David23400> So i remove the current lubuntu?
[15:53] <Luig1> Does anyone have any input on this?
[15:53] <mneptok> David23400: you can if you like. it's eating space in your Windows partition.
[15:53] <bieb> I have an ubuntu 10.10 server.. when I rdesktop into it anytime I type a "d" it minimizes the application on the server.. ie.. I have a console open and type sudo.. as soon as the d is typed, the console window minimizes. Any idea where I can shut this behavior off?
[15:54] <mrthompson> Luig1: I am running 12.04 on a Lenovo G575 with upgraded 4gb of Ram, runs really well
[15:54] <kristenbb> what is the gnome-settings-daemon and why is it using 100% of my cpu (or at least one of my cores) ?
[15:54] <David23400> I remove it by running wubi?
[15:54] <mneptok> Luig1: do you need workstation-like performance? e.g. full 3D hardware rendering?
[15:55] <Luig1> mneptok, I want to test new games moving to the platform and I also don't want to get left behind by hardware-accelerated interfaces, as has happened on this machine
[15:56] <Luig1> Which has a Intel graphics chipset, g675 I think
[15:56] <Luig1> Just a moment, I can look it up
[15:57] <mrthompson> meh, yeah the lenovo g575 is a lower end unit. not much to write home about it
[15:57] <reasearcher123> my pc working well. But some sites like way2sms, facebook take eternal to open.What can I do?
[15:57] <mneptok> Luig1: i have a Lenovo x120e with an AMD APU (E350). it works fine, but is not a powerhouse laptop. also, last i tried, the proprietary AMD driver did not work at all. however, the FLOSS "radeon" driver does 2D fine, and that's all i need.
[15:57] <Luig1> I see
[15:58] <Luig1> So what kind of 3D rendering does it offer you?
[15:58] <mneptok> Luig1: also, be aware that Intel graphics have made great strides. ask John Carmack.
[15:58] <mrthompson> yeah, my g575 has a dual core AMD w/ AMD Vision GPU
[15:58] <Luig1> G965 is the one I have
[15:58] <mrthompson> its not that great on games, but i mostly use terminal anyway
[15:58] <Luig1> My Intel graphics chip I mean, it's G965
[15:59] <reasearcher123> am I heard here
[15:59] <DarkAceZ> lolno
[15:59] <DarkAceZ> yes :P
[16:00] <mneptok> Luig1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wt-iVFxgFWk#t=2775s
[16:01] <n00bzz> keep on topic guys
[16:01] <n00bzz> !ot
[16:01] <mneptok> n00bzz: excuse me?
[16:02] <n00bzz> go in quakenet to talk about that, here it is #ubuntu support channel
[16:02] <n00bzz> not carmack fan channel
[16:02] <mneptok> n00bzz: the video discusses the state of Intel FLOSS drivers
[16:03] <n00bzz> is intel floss drivers ubuntu?
[16:03] <mneptok> n00bzz: it is of value to someone deciding on Ubuntu-capable hardware.
[16:03] <n00bzz> for hardware there is other channel
[16:03] <n00bzz> hehe
[16:03]  * mneptok waves to n00bzz 
[16:03] <n00bzz> ok sowwie
[16:03]  * mneptok knows the channel rules.
[16:04] <Luig1> Hmm, thanks for the video mneptok
[16:04] <mneptok> n00bzz: please click URLs and examine their content before deciding they are off-topic. or ask an op in #ubuntu-ops to come and look if you are unsure.
[16:05] <Luig1> I'd be willing to go to a hardware channel if my questions are disrupting the channel flow
[16:05] <mneptok> Luig1: it may change your outlook on embedded Intel graphics.
[16:05] <gopu> Hi guys
[16:05] <Luig1> Well getting shafted by them has significantly impacted my outlook on them
[16:05] <gopu> I need your help
[16:05] <Luig1> Since this card barely goes
[16:05] <mneptok> Luig1: TBH, the AMD APU is the first non-Intel setup i have owned in *years*. Intel stuff has tended to work very well.
[16:06] <n00bzz> mneptok: my engrish is very bad
[16:06] <gopu> How to backup my packages and OS so that i can use it further
[16:06] <mneptok> n00bzz: je parle Francais. et Quebecois *itou*.
[16:07] <mneptok> n00bzz: there are other ops with good French skills. come and find us if you think something needs attention.
[16:07] <n00bzz> mneptok: stop stalking me
[16:08] <Luig1> Well it says it right in your whois
[16:08] <Luig1> No stalking needed
[16:08] <n00bzz> :(
[16:08] <crackinwindow> Has anyone managed to get a gtx 560 SE running with ubuntu? The Nvidia drivers claim support for it but whenever I go to install it crashes on boot
[16:08] <n00bzz> you scare me guys
[16:08] <Luig1> Well it's just a right-click away in XChat :)
[16:08] <Luig1> Whois I mean
[16:08] <mneptok> OK, *now* we are heading off-topic. and i'm not helping. so let's all get back to Ubuntu stuffs.
[16:08] <DJones> Luig1: n00bzz This is probably getting offtopic :)
[16:09] <gmagno> hello, is there any console/text based application to do voice communication? Something like skype text based (without video, of course)
[16:09] <Luig1> See this is why I came here for graphics tips
[16:09] <Guest1547> n00bzz: it is natural to be scared :P
[16:09] <Luig1> All these things about driver config are way over my level
[16:09] <mneptok> Luig1: your choices were Lenovo and .... HP?
[16:09] <crackinwindow> Any help for me and my gtx 560 SE?
[16:09] <Luig1> Yes mneptok
[16:10] <mneptok> Luig1: ugh. if it was Dell, they are about to start selling laptops with Ubuntu pre-installed again.
[16:10] <Luig1> crackinwindow, sorry, I came here for the same type of help
[16:10] <Luig1> mneptok, that's where I got mine!
[16:10] <Luig1> Well, this is a desktop
[16:10] <Luig1> But it's an e520n
[16:10] <Luig1> n for Not Windows
[16:11] <crackinwindow> Luigi1 are you getting blank screens ofter installing the closed source drivers aswell?
[16:11] <Luig1> crackinwindow, I'm actually on Linux Mint right now :< but when I was using Ubuntu a few months ago I would get blank screens
[16:11] <mneptok> Luig1: not much i can help with, since i don't need 3D acceleration. but the consensus is that Intel is getting a LOT better.
[16:11] <Luig1> Usually during the boot process
[16:12] <crackinwindow> Same
[16:12] <Luig1> About 20% of the time it would boot normally for me, but that could just have been my specific circumstance
[16:12] <Luig1> So I would just keep doing cold reboots until I got to login
[16:12] <Luig1> And from there it would work well enough to do normal things
[16:12] <crackinwindow> Booting without them causes my desktop to hang aswel but using nomodeset would get me to login low graphics
[16:12] <Luig1> But this was just my Intel situation
[16:13] <Luig1> So I don't think I have any tips for yours
[16:13] <Ntemis> hi
[16:13] <Luig1> Hi Ntemis
[16:13] <crackinwindow> Normally that is the process for some cards to install the drivers but once I do I can no longer log in
[16:13] <n00bzz> mneptok: how can i add mouse cursor themes i downloaded?
[16:13] <Ntemis> i need help with y laptop lid
[16:13] <Ntemis> my
[16:13] <n00bzz> mneptok: xfce
[16:13] <Ntemis> when i close it nothing happens
[16:14] <Luig1> Ntemis, does suspend work normally?
[16:14] <Ntemis> i need to turn off screen
[16:14] <Ntemis> hmm
[16:14] <Ntemis> didnt try
[16:14] <Luig1> You could set a key combination to suspend
[16:14] <Luig1> And do that whenever you need to walk away for a few minutes
[16:14] <Luig1> But that doesn't fix the actual issue
[16:14] <luftikuss> I notice that two Ubuntu computers of mine have different UID and GID for users like mysql. This complicates restoring backups. Does Ubuntu provide means to assimilate UIDs and GIDs?
[16:15] <Luig1> Someone else might have a better solution
[16:15] <Ntemis> no it doesnt
[16:15] <Ntemis> i need to put laptop do a work and close my lid
[16:15] <Luig1> Hmm
[16:15] <Ntemis> even with open lid my screen doesnt shutdown
[16:16] <crackinwindow> frig ive been working on this issue for 3 days now
[16:16] <Ntemis> i can clearly see a white dim light
[16:16] <Luig1> I think that's in the power saving settings
[16:16] <Luig1> Oh, it's still backlit
[16:16] <Ntemis> yes backlit
[16:17] <litropy> Hi, All - hope everyone is doing well. I just need help remote desktop'ing into my computer from afar. I have everything se tup - this comp is on another connection. On the computer I want to access, I have checked: #allow other users to view your desktop #allow other users to control your desktop. What's next?
[16:18] <Ntemis> ok let me try something
[16:19] <Ntemis> ok solved :)
[16:19] <aether> litropy: You will need to know the IP addresses of the computers. You will also need to know how they both connect to the internet( assuming that you are trying to connect through the internet).
[16:20] <Luig1> Good to hear, Ntemis
[16:21] <AdvoWork> argh, i've got a problem, running XEN, with an ubuntu VM. I think the etc/fstab on that VM has broken, and I can't get it to boot. I'm connected to it via a VPN (i press ESC and I can see the Ubtunu 12.04 loading screen) but going no further. at thetop it says fsck from util-linux, and it seems to be stuck on stopping userspace boot any idea what it could be doing? i think /etc/fstab may have broken it but i dont know
[16:22] <n00bzz> what is a .tar.xz file?
[16:22] <Sculptor_> I want to access squid log according to date & time
[16:22] <th0r> n00bzz: you mean tar.gz?
[16:23] <n00bzz> th0r: no tar.xz, first time i see the xz
[16:23] <chris|> th0r, the same thing as a tar.gz, only that it is compressed with xz instread of gzip
[16:23] <brontosaurusrex> when starting mplayer from bash, is there a way to catch if exit was user pressing esc or usual EOF ?
[16:24] <n00bzz> chris|: what is difference between gzip and xz?
[16:24] <chris|> n00bzz, the algorithm used for compression
[16:24] <chris|> basically
[16:25] <llutz> brontosaurusrex: check "echo $?" after both cases, maybe they differ
[16:25] <Luig1> Well, in practical terms n00bzz
[16:25] <ripthejacker> where are the network manager files kept
[16:25] <Luig1> xz has better compression than either gzip or bzip2
[16:25] <Luig1> And tolerable speed
[16:25] <ripthejacker> i want to start the pppoe connection in a script please help
[16:25] <n00bzz> thank
[16:26] <Luig1> Whereas gzip has very high speed of compression and decompression
[16:26] <Luig1> But can't achieve the compression xz is capable of
[16:27] <n00bzz> thank, and what is the one with the best compression in all compression tool?
[16:27] <Luig1> So tar.xz and tar.gz are the same thing just with different tools to compress the tar file
[16:27] <Luig1> n00bzz, xz is the best
[16:27] <brontosaurusrex> llutz, they dont, exit code is always 0
[16:27] <brontosaurusrex> llutz, any other tricks?
[16:28] <Luig1> At least the best one which comes by default as far as I know
[16:28] <n00bzz> and 7z is better than rar, zip?
[16:28] <ripthejacker> how do i start pppoe connection using command line please help
[16:29] <llutz> ripthejacker: if your connection is configured in networkmanager, use nm-cli
[16:29] <Luig1> n00bzz, 7z compresses better than zip but isn't quite as fast
[16:29] <llutz> nmcli*
[16:29] <Luig1> I think xz will actually give you smaller files than 7z will though
[16:30] <Luig1> So I usually use tar.xz for everything
[16:30] <hwkiller-netbook> yeah, xz is very good.
[16:30] <Luig1> That is, when speed isn't an issue
[16:30] <n00bzz> we talk about how many % smaller?
[16:30] <Luig1> When speed is a priority I use gz
[16:30] <Luig1> n00bzz, depends on the file, so I can't say
[16:30] <ripthejacker> llutz, its not present by default there is no such file as nm-cli
[16:30] <ripthejacker> llutz, do you know where the bin files are present?
[16:31] <llutz> !find /bin/nmcli
[16:31] <llutz> ripthejacker: 11
[16:31] <llutz> ripthejacker: ^ see ubottu
[16:31]  * gitesh seeing it couple of times.
[16:31] <nichlas> Here is an article about compression, although it doesn't have 7zip it does have GZIP, BZIP2, LZMA, ZIP and Compress: http://blog.terzza.com/linux-compression-comparison-gzip-vs-bzip2-vs-lzma-vs-zip-vs-compress/
[16:32] <Luig1> For reference, xz uses LZMA2
[16:32] <Luig1> And 7zip uses LZMA
[16:32] <n00bzz> 15yr ago all i was using was ARJ
[16:32] <nichlas> Luig1: for many of the programs, you can select other than defaults.
[16:33] <Luig1> That's the case with 7zip yes, niceguyjames
[16:33] <Luig1> nichlas **
[16:33] <niceguyjames> Luig1: I hate 7zip!
[16:33] <Luig1> I've used 7zip with DEFLATE compression before
[16:33] <nichlas> n00bzz, arj was cool.. especially as it was easier to remember than lzh or whatsitsname
[16:34] <Luig1> (DEFLATE being the algorithm used by gzip and zip
[16:34] <nichlas> i like 7zip, it offers multi processor support.
[16:34] <xeon123> what's the purpose of the file: rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules?
[16:34] <Luig1> Usually I only do that when I have some really specific need, though
[16:34] <Luig1> Like wanting password-protected encryption in a split, compressed file or something
[16:35] <Luig1> So since I'm usually all those switches anyway I change to deflate just to speed it up a bit
[16:35] <chris|> xeon123, it makes sure that your network cards are always available by the same name
[16:36] <xeon123> chris|: Can I update that file?
[16:36] <silverghost> oi guys am in ubuntu 12.10 alpha 3 suppose when fina version comes out will i have to install a fresh copy or sudo apt-get update will do??
[16:36] <chris|> xeon123, sure, but why would you want to?
[16:36] <hellyeah> hey
[16:37] <DarkAceZ> yeah>
[16:37] <hellyeah> i want to check  btrfs file system there is no manual page for fsck.btrfs is there any web pages
[16:37] <Sculptor_> hey
[16:37] <Sculptor_> any one help about squid
[16:37] <Luig1> Cool, btrfs
[16:38] <Luig1> I'd be interested to see the answer you get HelenB_
[16:38] <Pici> !final | silverghost
[16:38] <Luig1> hellyeah **
[16:38] <xeon123> I've several images in Virtualbox that run on the same computer, and I'm tring to set up the network of that images. I'm talking about the rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules of each image.
[16:38] <hellyeah> luiq1
[16:38] <silverghost> cheers
[16:38] <hellyeah> whats ıp
[16:38] <Luig1> I need to be more careful about autocomplete in these huge channels :(
[16:39] <xeon123> chris|: I want to set eth0 and eth1 of each image.
[16:39] <llutz> xeon123: just remove the file, it will be recreated at boottime
[16:39] <nichlas> silverghost: most likely it will axplode before that ;)
[16:39] <hellyeah> Luig1:  whats up
[16:39] <nichlas> explode*
[16:39] <xeon123> llutz: ok
[16:39] <Luig1> hellyeah, I just mean I'd be interested to see the response
[16:39] <silverghost> hehe why nichlas
[16:39] <hellyeah> hmm
[16:39] <Luig1> I'd love to see btrfs become more widely-used
[16:39] <Luig1> Maybe someday it'll be the default fs in Ubuntu
[16:40] <hellyeah> what is default fs on ubuntu ext4
[16:40] <nichlas> silverghost: in my experience, the upgrades between alphas and betas have not been very graceful. But maybe they have become better :-)
[16:40] <Luig1> I think so yes, hellyeah
[16:40] <nichlas> silverghost, just don't expect too much
[16:40] <silverghost> hey thx buddy :) i will have to rethink now lol
[16:40] <hellyeah> Luig1:  i guess you know something about btrfs right
[16:41] <Luig1> hellyeah, from a theoretical standpoint I do
[16:41] <Luig1> I've never used it on my own machine
[16:41] <Luig1> So I don't know anything about fsck on it
[16:41] <hellyeah> as far as i know ext4 or ext3 is double linked list whereas btrfs is balance tree which is, i guess, similar to avl tree. How does it affect of performance issue i mean the change of structure
[16:42] <silverghost> When btrfs is released as v1.0 it will take ten years before it gets stable enough to be used in production
[16:42] <hellyeah> no i guess this question is theorotical
[16:42] <hellyeah> do you have any idea
[16:43] <Luig1> I think a lot of that benefit comes in scalability
[16:43] <hellyeah> or do you understand my question
[16:43] <Luig1> I do
[16:43] <hellyeah> okey
[16:43] <Luig1> It's a bit off-topic for this channel
[16:43] <hellyeah> because sometimes i am in trouble to use english it is not my native i am not so good at it
[16:43] <systemd0wn> Just installed 12.04LTS 64bit on my laptop and It has been very buggy. Frequent crashing, random "broken pipe" errors, overall not very good. Should I attempt the 32-bit version? Is it more stable?
[16:43] <hellyeah> Luig1:  i know but we can count this as small talk
[16:43] <gopu> How to backup my packages and OS so that i can use it further
[16:44] <Luig1> But binary trees are what's used to keep the fs data, yeah
[16:44] <Luig1> Instead of the usual lists
[16:44] <hellyeah> binary or balance
[16:44] <Luig1> binary
[16:44] <hellyeah> hmm
[16:44] <hellyeah> binary with (n nodes) i guess
[16:44] <hellyeah> right
[16:45] <Luig1> Yes. Well, B-trees are a type of binary tree
[16:45] <hellyeah> it must be hard to protext the connection between node in binary tree
[16:45] <hellyeah> and
[16:45] <Sculptor_> any one there
[16:45] <hellyeah> traverse in binary tree is harder than linked list
[16:46] <hellyeah> how does it make any performance raise i mean being binary tree
[16:46] <Luig1> Actually, I don't think the B in B tree specifically means binary
[16:46] <Luig1> I think it just means B
[16:46] <Luig1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-tree
[16:46] <Luig1> But that's enough of that
[16:46] <Luig1> This is a support channel, sorry :(
[16:46] <hellyeah> okey
[16:46] <hellyeah> :D
[16:47] <hellyeah> are uoy in #defocus
[16:47] <Luig1> No, I was here for a graphics question
[16:47] <Luig1> I'm at work :o
[16:47] <hellyeah> hmm
[16:47] <hellyeah> what type of graphic question
[16:47] <Sculptor_> any one help me about squid
[16:48] <Luig1> I intend to buy a laptop to put Ubuntu on, with specific rules about prices an manufacturers, etc
[16:48] <Luig1> But long story short
[16:48] <Luig1> I was asking about nvidia graphics
[16:48] <davi> iou
[16:48] <kartlos> hey guys, I was wondering whether applications written in java are permitted for submission to the ubuntu app store
[16:48] <Luig1> Compared to AMD Radeon chips
[16:48] <Luig1> The less expensive ones
[16:48] <moes> Unable to mount cdrom ??
[16:48] <alakoo> not sure but don't nvidia chips have better driver support
[16:48] <alakoo> used to be like that some time ago at least
[16:49] <Luig1> That's what I thought too alakoo
[16:49] <Luig1> But all of the laptops I can find with them would need bumblebee to work correctly
[16:49] <hellyeah> i guess
[16:49] <hellyeah> nvidia is expensive ones
[16:49] <Luig1> So AMD is starting to look easier to configure
[16:49] <Sculptor_> any one squid
[16:49] <Sculptor_> configuration squid
[16:49] <Luig1> Sorry Sculptor_ :(
[16:49] <hellyeah> and nvidia has better support i guess
[16:50] <hellyeah> google is your feiend in some cases Sculptor_
[16:50] <Sculptor_> thanks <hellyeah>
[16:51] <Sculptor_> any know access the log of squid according to time and date
[16:51] <Luig1> Actually, googling it is what brought me here, the wide range of models makes it hard to tell
[16:51] <louiemat> having problems with tty1 how to fix this problem
[16:51] <Luig1> I think if I could get a system with just one card, and that being an nvidia card, I might be better off
[16:51] <Luig1> But since that's not a configuration option...
[16:51] <Luig1> I'm a bit stuck trying to pick the best option
[16:52] <Luig1> mneptok also mentioned that intel HD is doing fine at this point
[16:52] <Luig1> So I'm not even sure who to pick
[16:52] <Luig1> Which is good I suppose
[16:52] <Luig1> Not ruling them out
[16:52] <Pici> !enter
[16:52] <mstenta> hey all, is there a key for the gnome apt repository that i can add to apt-key?
[16:52] <Luig1> Sorry Pici
[16:53] <hellyeah> Luig1:  i am sure there is some web site that compares such graphic things
[16:53] <maxjezy> can i report a bug here?
[16:53] <Luig1> hellyeah, phoronix I think
[16:54] <Luig1> I got a bit of good information from there, but their coverage seems to be hit or miss
[16:54] <hellyeah> maxiepax:  i guess you should use dpaste.com or ubuntu-paste
[16:54] <n00bzz> câline de bine
[16:54] <hellyeah> then copy paste the url here or ubuntu has bug forums that is spesific to bug report
[16:54] <Pici> !bugs | maxjezy
[16:54] <Sculptor_> check the log of squid according to time and date. Any one know
[16:54] <Pici> !fr | n00bzz
[16:55] <maxjezy> ok thnx Pici
[16:55] <n00bzz> Pici: lol
[16:55] <tech1> is there any logical reason whil opening a text based file with sudo will show a blank file(sudo gedit filename), but opening without sudo(gedit filename) will open it and can see the text... is it a bug?  i could see the data with sudo before but its only blank with sudo after i rebooted
[16:55] <hellyeah> Luig1:  i could suggest you some forums, yahoo answr such things
[16:55] <louiemat> can anyone help me in dealing with the TTY1 PROBLEM, HOW TO GET AROUND IT
[16:55] <hellyeah> tech1:  which file are you talking about
[16:56] <n00bzz> where can i get the list of all !warning command we can use here?
[16:56] <tech1> the file is my own gtk theme in /usr/share/themes/mytheme/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
[16:56] <tech1> i copied it to make my own theme, which works
[16:56] <hellyeah> may be prermission problem
[16:56] <Pici> !brain > n00bzz
[16:56] <tech1> but after rebooting i couldnt see it when opening with sudo, so i had to chmod777 my new folder to edit it without sudo
[16:57] <n00bzz> gracias, obrigado, merci, thank
[16:57] <n00bzz> :)
[16:57] <tking> sudo apt-get install update ... is showing  E; Unable to locate package upgrade
[16:57] <ripthejacker> llutz, where can i get more help about network manager?
[16:57] <ripthejacker> is it gnome or ubuntu implementation?
[16:58] <MoTec>  tking the command is just sudo apt-get update
[16:58] <ripthejacker> how do i start pppoe connection using cli?
[16:59] <louiemat> tech1 was that explanation fix for me
[16:59] <tking> MoTec, thanks
[16:59] <tech1> no that was me describing my own problem
[16:59] <llutz> ripthejacker: did you configure your connection unsing pppoeconf or networkmanager?
[16:59] <ripthejacker> networkmanager
[17:00] <louiemat> tech1 sorry
[17:00] <ripthejacker> actually i did with another program called rp-pppoe
[17:00] <llutz> ripthejacker: read "man nmcli" then
[17:00] <tech1> no prob.
[17:00] <ripthejacker> llutz, but now i use only network manager
[17:01] <llutz> ripthejacker: something like "sudo nmcli con up id "yourpppoeconntectionname" "
[17:01] <n00bzz> there is many factoids
[17:01] <adekto> how do i instal ubuntu (dualboot) wubi instal isnt working
[17:01] <branchman2> hello, wtf is going on with Ubuntu 12.04? Installing ia32-libs-multiarch requires bluez (!), esound (!!), gtk2-engines (!!!) and also libqt4-.. (!!!!) ! I don't want it, and I don't need it - why there is such dependency?
[17:02] <gitesh> adekto, what is the error?
[17:02] <adekto> wubi gives an error
[17:02] <m1chael> branchman2, why do you need ia32?
[17:03] <branchman2> m1chael: to run proprietary shitty server app
[17:03] <adekto> http://puu.sh/Paci
[17:03] <m1chael> branchman2, ia32-libs not enough?
[17:03] <foxy999> Is there a way to stop system actions with i use ctrl or alt and click something?
[17:04] <branchman2> m1chael: ia32-libs = ia32-libs-multiarch in 12.04
[17:04] <varty> any noobs like me ?
[17:04] <trism> branchman2: ia32-libs is just a metapackage to make it easy to pull in everything, you don't need it, just install the individual libname:i386 packages you need if you don't want everything
[17:04] <moes>  Unable to mount cdrom ??
[17:05] <adekto> why is wubi instaler broken?
[17:05] <gitesh> varty, hi.
[17:05] <varty> hi
[17:05] <ripthejacker> llutz, thanks :)
[17:05] <m1chael> branchman2, good to know,  hhhm now i see what you ment
[17:05] <varty> first time in irc since 1997
[17:05] <branchman2> trism: thanks - so libc6 is enough?
[17:06] <trism> branchman2: start there, but you may need to ldd the binary after that to see what else you need
[17:06] <branchman2> trism: y, thanks
[17:07] <luftikuss> I notice that two Ubuntu computers of mine have different UID and GID for users like mysql. This complicates restoring backups. Does Ubuntu provide means to assimilate UIDs and GIDs?
[17:07] <SnapSnap> I installed Google Chrome. I uninstalled it by doing "sudo apt-get purge google-chrome" I got the message "Virtual packages like google-chrome" can't be removed. I looked around online, then tried "sudo apt-get purge google-chrome-stable". That removed it, but when I look for it in the Unity dashboard, it still comes up, with a square white icon. When I click on it, nothing happens. Thoughts?
[17:08] <kishen> hey guys do u knw any open source javascript apps?
[17:08] <Pici> !offtopic | kishen
[17:08] <glebaron> there are lots of java-based installers that require ia32-libs, even if you are installing 64bit software.
[17:08] <varty> maybe you need to use the clean command ...
[17:08] <m1chael> SnapSnap, just remove google-chrome from /usr/share/applications, ls for google*
[17:09] <m1chael> SnapSnap, and check if chrome was removed from /opt/google/chrome
[17:10] <bilel> I've followed gmail instruction to make my emails using google apps, so I've changed my mx record configuration on my webserver to make it use gmail, is it possible to keep it this way but only enable smtp for sending emails and not receive on my webserver, with postfix.
[17:11] <bilel> because I'm limited for the sending with gmail, they blocked me after 20 emails sent
[17:12] <m1chael> just if somebody is intrested i found something that no one could answer for a couple of days. after removing pulseaudio i couldn't find a way to disable nautilus backspace alert sound. so, #gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences audible-bell false
[17:13] <moes>  Unable to mount cdrom ??
[17:14] <m1chael> moes, check in terminal if your in group cdrom by typing #groups
[17:16] <bitpimp> I can't reach the admin page of my new trendnet TEW-638APB wireless  point via the default 192.168.10.100... any ideas?  Running 11.04 and connecting to access point via ethernet.
[17:17] <m1chael> 192.168.1.1
[17:17] <m1chael> 10.0.0.138
[17:18] <moes> m1chael, No response from #groups...The error I get initially is "cannot find in fstab"
[17:19] <m1chael> moes, it's groups not #groups, when a command is entered it should be marked by#
[17:19] <j|> what's up, people. Anyone know what regex I have to apt-cache search for to (possibly ironically) find the 'regex(7)' man page?
[17:19] <bitpimp> michael: weird, but nada on both those
[17:19] <bitpimp> old router is reachable
[17:19] <bitpimp> oops... that was m1chael
[17:20] <moes> m1chael, ray adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin nopasswdlogin sambashare
[17:20] <m1chael> moes, than it should work it has nothing to do in fstab
[17:21] <trism> j|: it is in manpages so you should already have it
[17:21] <Pici> j|: it should just be in the 'manpages' package.  I just used apt-file search /usr/share/man/man7/regex.7.gz
[17:21] <NuSuey> hi guys.. any normal way to make my ati 6850 .. work in ubuntu.. while having dual monitors turned on? :X it just gives me weird graphics etc :X
[17:21] <litropy> Eeek, I left this message and now my scroll history deleted any responses. Here it is again:
[17:21] <litropy> Hi, All - hope everyone is doing well. I just need help remote desktop'ing into my computer from afar. I have everything se tup - this comp is on another connection. On the computer I want to access, I have checked: #allow other users to view your desktop #allow other users to control your desktop. What's next?
[17:22] <moes> m1chael, ray@ray-desktop:~$ mount /dev/cdrom
[17:22] <moes> mount: can't find /dev/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[17:22] <j|> apt-file, eh? that's a new one.
[17:22] <NuSuey> meh.. of course no help..
[17:22] <m1chael> moes, mount /source /destination
[17:23] <m1chael> moes, mount /dev/cdrom /mnt
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> !ati| NuSuey
[17:23] <j|> trism, Pici: thanks. I just realized for the last 10 minutes I've been frustratedly looking for 'regexp' in section 7
[17:24] <NuSuey> MonkeyDust: meh, thats old non-updated stuff.. im not new to linux.. jeez
[17:24] <m1chael> moes, cdrom automount should be taken cared of by hal
[17:25] <NuSuey> but having a pain in the ass to freaking work on linux if i cant have dual monitors turne on..
[17:25] <NuSuey> in that case i rather delete linux
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> hmm. dual monitors works well here
[17:25] <NuSuey> not on my 6850
[17:25] <NuSuey> ati
[17:25] <NuSuey> radeon
[17:26] <j|> Pici: wrt 'apt-file' any reason I should take some time to acquaint myself with this? (as opposed to doing the DIY dpkg --search? .. which for whatever reason I didn't think to do until your suggestion.)
[17:26] <m1chael> moes, but maybe i'm wrong
[17:26] <padhu> NuSuey: Multihead on ubuntu is very easy and nice also.
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> !hal
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> NuSuey  you could also help develop linux and submit an idea on !brainstorm
[17:26] <m1chael> moes, try to mount it manually and than proceed from there
[17:27] <m1chael> ubottu, yeah figured it exactly now
[17:27] <moes> m1chael, ray@ray-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt
[17:27] <moes> [sudo] password for ray:
[17:27] <moes> mount: /dev/sr0: unknown device
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> you are not mounting a music cd are you?
[17:27] <NuSuey> padhu: uh, whats multihead .. o.O i think i put it on aticonfig .. didnt solve a thing
[17:28] <NuSuey> but i guess i'll try some other distro.. which got the issues settled.
[17:28] <Dr_Willis>  /dev/cdrom is a link to sr0 or sr1 or sometimes sdb sdc or other sdX  could be the link is wrong
[17:28] <NuSuey> i allready wasted 3-6 hours with it
[17:28] <NuSuey> and im done
[17:28] <j|> NuSuey: if you're ready to delete linux just because it doesn't do exactly what you need it to do right out of the box, I suggest that you go ahead and do that and save yourself years of frustration.
[17:28] <moes> Dr_Willis, This is a backup dvd
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> NuSuey  that's the flexibility of linux
[17:28] <padhu> NuSuey: little bit of more details are needed. what about logs?
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> moes:  when you insert it. check dmesg output
[17:29] <m1chael> Dr_Willis, you rule :>
[17:29] <NuSuey> j|: dude, i have two monitors.. + hdmi .. i can work on windows, on my hackintosh.. but .. linux got problems with the ati graphic card.. and i cant work on 1 freaking monitor if i got two..why would i work only on  one?
[17:29] <j|> NuSuey: you have to be willing to bang your head against the wall and learn doing it, even if you're wanting to move on and get to something else. Just my $.02, dude.
[17:29] <j|> NuSuey: I hear you, man.
[17:30] <m1chael> NuSuey, what is your setup?
[17:30] <NuSuey> j|: dude.. -.^ after work.. i dont need to do more work.. to make my linux able to do things i can do in my hackintosh or windows..
[17:30] <j|> I dunno what to tell you as I don't have that problem. Then again, I started with linux 15+ years ago when it was a marathon of hours of downloading to sets of floppy disks just to install the damn thing.
[17:30] <MDKAOD> Hey everyone. Does anyone have any information on installing older versions of Dell Openmanage on 12.04? It seems OM 5.4 is designed for RedHat but thats the latest version that works with my hardware.
[17:30] <NuSuey> m1chael: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&tmp_geoLoc=true&product=5068976
[17:30] <Icehawk78> I've got a mouse that has two buttons that default to changing the mouse sensitivity when I click them, that I'd like to remap to a keyboard shortcut. I can do this with some logitech software under windows, but can't figure out how to override the default behavior under Ubuntu. Any suggestions?
[17:30] <j|> NuSuey: I'm not trying to diminsh your frustration. It's f**ing annoying to have crap like that in your way.
[17:30] <NuSuey> j|: i still remember the old red hat linux.. on my old pentium
[17:31] <downloader> Why isn't the "rails" binary in the path in ruby-rails-2.3?
[17:31] <j|> NuSuey: hahaha. nice.
[17:31] <m1chael> NuSuey, did you install the driver?
[17:31] <m1chael> NuSuey, ati driver?
[17:31] <NuSuey> m1chael: via the system hardware thingie, or the manual way?
[17:31] <j|> NuSuey: never was an RH fan, but it has some advantages. Grew up on Slackware until Debian mostly nailed package management.
[17:32] <moes> Dr_Willis, http://pastebin.com/HjSEfUNA
[17:32] <m1chael> NuSuey, either
[17:32] <j|> NuSuey: anyway, good luck dude. ATI Radeon should be well supported. That driver has been around forever.
[17:32] <NuSuey> j|: i was a red hat fan at start.. after that used windows for many years.. now im .. more .. like.. mac os guy.. dont like windows much.. would love to have a working linux distro on my desktop :/
[17:32] <NuSuey> m1chael: yup.. installed the manual way..
[17:32] <j|> and Pici and trism, thanks for the pointer to the obvious.
[17:33] <NuSuey> m1chael: also tried to uninstall and use the open one..
[17:33] <trism> j|: apt-file works well to search packages that aren't already installed, dpkg -S will only search installed ones
[17:33] <trism> j|: and no problem
[17:33] <m1chael> NuSuey, does the driver works, can you access ati control panel?
[17:33] <NuSuey> the ati one gave me the problems.. and the open.. would fu.k with my system .. hang on startup (needed to use some other windows manager) and gave me weird sh1t
[17:33] <j|> NuSuey: yea, I use a mac for my personal laptop, but everything at work is cloud-based linux servers. I think linux is the best server OS bar none, but, like you, I don't want to fight with my drivers all day. ;)
[17:34] <NuSuey> m1chael: both drivers work.. kinda.. but both give me issues
[17:34] <m1chael> NuSuey, do you use one of theme now?
[17:34] <j|> you can't automate windows. and macs are great as long as you don't have to do anything that Apple didn't expect you to do... (which you always do eventually.)
[17:34] <j|> trism: ahhhh.. that's a significant advantage.
[17:35] <NuSuey> m1chael: i'll end downloading sometihng at windows..in a few minutes.. then i can reboot or something..
[17:35] <NuSuey> m1chael: but..
[17:35] <NuSuey> m1chael: the problems are many..
[17:35] <j|> trism: thanks. That's actually really really helpful.
[17:35] <NuSuey> m1chael: with the ati.. installed manualy.. installed stuff.. bla bla bla.. made .deb.. installed.. rebooted.. and i get only one monitor.. the other monitor is blinking..
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[17:36] <NuSuey> m1chael: both worked only if i had them mirrored..
[17:36] <m1chael> NuSuey, check with glxinfo if x uses ati driver and check direct rendering: Yes
[17:36] <NuSuey> jeez
[17:36] <NuSuey> diablo 3 worked via wine
[17:36] <NuSuey> rendering did work
[17:36] <NuSuey> but something is f.ed up
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[17:36] <NuSuey> i mean..
[17:37] <NuSuey> one thing was the compiz issue.. i had flickering when playing something fullscreen.. only worked on windowed mode..
[17:37] <m1chael> NuSuey, i see.
[17:37] <bilel> I've followed gmail instruction to make my emails using google apps, so I've changed my mx record configuration on my webserver to make it use gmail, is it possible to keep it this way but only enable smtp for sending emails and not receive on my webserver, with postfix.
[17:38] <NuSuey> and when i tried to enable the second monitor.. i did have an error.. about the max .. resolution (i googled and people suggested putting virtual screen in the config file) ..but didnt help
[17:38] <j|> bilel, yea, that's more of a postfix issue, but yea you can do that.
[17:39] <j|> bilel: either you can set postfix to check it's local recipient maps and have a mostly empty table (you should keep the one's for root and postmaster probably)
[17:39] <j|> bilel: and you can also just set up postfix to use a relay, so anything it does get gets relayed
[17:39] <NuSuey> m1chael: + the windows manager without effects did put me some weird stuff whenever i logged on.. so i had only a quarter of the screen left after like 20 reboots.. and it continues to shrink and shrink
[17:39] <NuSuey> REALLY weird stuff is happening
[17:39] <j|> bilel: those are not exclusively OR'd
[17:40] <j|> bilel: so, do both.
[17:41] <j|> bilel: or, at least do the relay_host. (man -s 5 postconf; search for '^ +relayhost')
[17:41] <m1chael> NuSuey, i also had issues like that with nvidia on my ubuntu 12 and on 9.1 everything was excellent, even cuda with triple head setup. i'm also experiencing strange things with +9.1 versions of ubuntu and graphics.
[17:41] <DarkAceZ> o/
[17:41] <j|> bilel: you can also, instead, just disable the SMTPD process
[17:42] <j|> bilel: to do that, you'd comment out the line in postfix's master.conf
[17:42] <m1chael> NuSuey, got to the point that i put my gtx 285 back in the closet and now i'm using ubuntu 12.04 on intel onboard.
[17:42] <NuSuey> m1chael: :/ i guess we are unlucky.. thought you have an idea what could help me.. i dont know.. would some other distro help me or it woulbe e all the same?
[17:42] <bitpimp> while connected to my wireless access point via ethernet, I can
[17:42] <bitpimp>           reach past it to my modem (192.168.0.1), can reach the web, but
[17:42] <bitpimp>           can't reach the WAP at it's address (192.168.0.1)... tried two WAP's
[17:42] <bitpimp>           with the same result.  Help.
[17:42] <j|> bilel: but you should probably keep it listening on a local socket and not disable it all
[17:42] <bitpimp> oops
[17:42] <bitpimp> sorry about that
[17:42] <FloodBot1> bitpimp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:42] <bitpimp> a pasting accident
[17:42] <j|> bilel: anyway, that's probably enough info for you to figure it out I hope..
[17:43] <m1chael> NuSuey, you can try installing the driver than run the machine with other enviroment like openbox or kde and see if it's gnome related issue?
[17:43] <m1chael> NuSuey, i didn't do it yet because my computers are rack mounted and i'm lazy
[17:44] <NuSuey> m1chael: nah it's not only gnome.. tried other windows managers..
[17:44] <NuSuey> just the fulscreen-game thing was a compiz issue..
[17:44] <m1chael> NuSuey, gnome is an enviroment and not windows manager ;)
[17:45] <NuSuey> meh.. blah blah :P m1chael
[17:45] <m1chael> NuSuey, did you try forcing dual head with xorg.conf
[17:45] <NuSuey> m1chael: yup
[17:46] <m1chael> NuSuey, i'm trying to get to the reason that proprietary driver are not well supported under linux that suck
[17:46] <m1chael> NuSuey, i'm trying to get to the reason that proprietary driver are not well supported under linux, this thing suck sorry
[17:46] <NuSuey> m1chael:  i mean i could use the distro.. but i would have to use one monitor instead of two..and i dont wanna do that
[17:47] <NuSuey> no clue.. if i will try other distros.. (dont think that will help) .. but will see. or i'll stick to dual booting windows and my hackintosh
[17:47] <j|> NuSuey: yea, agreed. I don't know when the hell ATI Radeon support became flakey, but that sucks.
[17:47] <m1chael> NuSuey, i still use a windows box just not to waste precious time like this because nvidia and ati don'
[17:48] <OerHeks> gnome3/unity + compiz = bad.
[17:48] <m1chael> NuSuey, i still use a windows box just not to waste precious time like this because nvidia and ati don't support all the cards like thay should have
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> linux and nvidia are not the best of friends
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> or ati
[17:48] <ThinkT510> OerHeks: unity is gnome3 + compiz
[17:49] <DarkAceZ> that's cuz nvidia <3 windows
[17:49] <j|> Haven't used gnome3
[17:49] <DarkAceZ> and anything <3'ing windows sucks
[17:49] <DarkAceZ> :P
[17:49] <j|> just heard the negative hype when it was being released
[17:49] <m1chael> ThinkT510, no it isn't
[17:50] <m1chael> DarkAceZ, thumb up for that
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> i use xfce, never liked gnome3
[17:51] <ThinkT510> m1chael: unity is based on gnome3 and uses compiz (thats what i meant)
[17:51] <m1chael> ThinkT510, don't take it too serious we're just having fun
[17:52] <j|> MonkeyDust: xfce, huh?
[17:53] <m1chael> whats all this noise about this gnome 3 anyway gnome2 rules i didn't understood why they moved to gnome 3 unity desktop
[17:53] <j|> MonkeyDust: any reason you like that WM? anything against black/fluxbox?
[17:53] <ThinkT510> m1chael: because gnome2 is no longer being developed
[17:53] <ThinkT510> m1chael: it is a dead codebase
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> j|  no reason, i'm used to it now
[17:53] <j|> MonkeyDust: xfce was one of the WMs that I just never got what features made it appealing.
[17:54] <j|> MonkeyDust: haha, yea, that's always the most significant determining factor. :)
[17:54] <m1chael> ThinkT510, so, windows is also a dead code and everyone uses it with no problem
[17:54] <ThinkT510> m1chael: no, it is supported code, gnome2 isn't
[17:54] <j|> m1chael: XD
[17:55] <Gary_inNYC> Why does Precise Pangolin keep forgetting that LibreOffice Writer is supposed to be permanently docked?
[17:55] <OerHeks> m1chael, when it is free, people complain, why is that ?
[17:55] <jmoiron> has anyone figured out how to install compiz 0.8.6 on precise
[17:56] <j|> gnome2 was a mess, but it mostly worked and looked nice. trying to administer hundreds of gnome2-based machiens and automate things like updating people's preferences via configuration mgmt wasn't fun though. Are the preferences a little cleaner of a framework in gnome3?
[17:56] <ThinkT510> jmoiron: compiz is installed by default
[17:56] <jmoiron> ThinkT510: compiz 0.9.8 is installed by default
[17:56] <ThinkT510> jmoiron: why do you want the earlier version?
[17:57] <m1chael> OerHeks, that's not the right question, people afraid from change. anyhow, if it works why waste time on making something new. never understood that. gnome 2 was fine and absolutly capable of everything so why the change
[17:58] <jmoiron> because i've run out of patience with 0.9.x;  features i rely on seem to be getting buggier each release
[17:58] <Gary_inNYC> m1chael: in all fairness, we could say that about users comfortable with Windows 95
[17:58] <j|> m1chael: again, the one thing that I never really felt was clean and understandable to make work was setting preferences in gnome2
[17:58] <jmoiron> and i don't use unity so in theory the 0.8 series should work
[17:58] <j|> m1chael: but that could just be my ignorance.
[17:59] <j|> I tried to learn about it, but the documentation was scattered across desktop standards and tools that were half-documented etc etc
[18:00] <j|> so I ended up always just finding some one-time hack that would work.. not impossible most of the time, just a bit hard to find the logic within. for me, anyway..
[18:00] <jmoiron> there's a ppa for it but all of the builds failed :\
[18:00] <nibbler_> hi. whats a lightweight dns server that i could use on my ubuntu gateway, just to forward dns queries to some dns server in the internet (with logging)?
[18:01] <jmoiron> i've used dnsmasq for that in the past, don't recall if it had logging
[18:01] <m1chael> j|, never had troubles with gnome2, i had multi monitor setup 5040x1050 resolution running until 9.1+ composition and everything. gnome 3 pretty much ruined my life. moved since than to lfs running gnome 2 for development and ubuntu 12.04 for home use.
[18:01] <nibbler_> ah right, thats the name i was looking for jmoiron, thanks
[18:01] <jmoiron> nibbler_: np.
[18:02] <Gary_inNYC> so does anyone else have issues with unity bar not remembering certain icons being docked?
[18:02] <nibbler_> jmoiron, too bad i just configured dhcpd ;-) well...
[18:02] <bitpimp> ifconfig is showing for 'eth0 Interrupt:20
[18:03] <bitpimp>           Memory:e3900000-e3920000', any ideas what this is?
[18:03] <j|> m1chael: lfs? really? so no package management or anything?
[18:04] <j|> m1chael: or do you just build and then use apt.* anyway?
[18:04] <luftikuss> 'man mysqldump' dated  04/19/2012 uses the switch -u but does not explain its effect. What is the effect of -u ?
[18:05] <n2diy> can I run a cable from my router in the living room into the basement, and connect another router to it, to use multible computers in the basement?
[18:05] <kurtwp_> n2diy: sure
[18:05] <Gary_inNYC> n2diy: set up the second router as a dummy access point
[18:06] <Kingsy> ok people.. I think my graphics driver is in a little bit of a state.. I had nvidia installed then I changed my card to a AMD, so I installed the catalyst control drivers using the additional drivers menu, they seemed buggy so I removed them using the same tool and ubuntu seemed to install the open radeon ones by itself.. but now I am getting horrible performance.. like jumpy screensavers and such.. can someone tell me what I have done wrong? and how 
[18:06] <j|> anyway. back to work. good chatting w/ some of you.
[18:07] <kurtwp_> n2diy: just plug the cable in the LAN ports on the second your not the WAN port
[18:07] <Kingsy> someone mentioned earlier today that I need to reinstall a few things and totally reconfigure xorg or something? then install the propriety drivers from the ATI website?
[18:07] <webpageuse> hello
[18:07] <Kingsy> but I am not really sure what I am doing tbh, so I thought I would try and get some help / advice..
[18:07] <Gary_inNYC> n2diy: also disable DHCP on the secondary router
[18:07] <Kingsy> anyone available to chat about that?
[18:08] <webpageuse> anyone got knowledge about authlog?
[18:08] <Gary_inNYC> n2diy: assign a static ip to the router functioning as access point that is outside the range of the primary router's dhcp range to avoid conflict
[18:09] <n2diy> ok, thanks all.
[18:10] <m1chael> j|, from scratch
[18:11] <m1chael> j|, no pm
[18:11] <webpageuse> is it normal when there is delete user guest in authlog?
[18:11] <spinx60> evening boys and girls
[18:11] <DarkAceZ> girls
[18:12] <BLZbubba> what does it mean if the ubuntu installer has the new partition table button greyed out; but it still is showing /dev/sda for the boot loader?
[18:13] <theadmin> BLZbubba: I assume you'd need to click /dev/sda in the list before the button becomes active.
[18:14] <viktor> hi! i just got a card reader for a smart card which i *really* need to get to work. but the card reader isn't recognized. i found a site saying this is a bug and i should revert to a package in debian unstable (don't know how to do this). and if i open the app for using the card it says to check if the pcsc daemon is started. any help pls?
[18:14] <RomeoAva> after install windows fonts all the browsers are in bold fonts
[18:14] <webpageuse> group added to /etc/group: name=guest-5z7RxE, GID=128
[18:15] <webpageuse> i never add that?
[18:15] <theadmin> viktor: You can't "revert to a package in Debian", Ubuntu and Debian aren't compatible. Whoever wrote that is wrong.
[18:16] <viktor> theadmin, it says those packages are found in the debian unstable repository, maybe that's different?
[18:17] <orated> Hello! My system motherboard failed that I'm not able to boot Ubuntu. But I thought I if I can try the HDD on another working system as USB-HDD. I inserted my drive in portable HDD and tried to boot but it gives following error - libcrypt version: 1.5.0 Could not stat the resume device file /dev/sda7 Please type in the full path name to try again or press enter to boot the system - From LiveUSB boot I found that sda7 is swap partition. When I try to
[18:17] <theadmin> viktor: Well, mixing repositories *will* break your system.
[18:17] <orated> boot from USB-HDD without having any other HDD in the system, it boots fine but with any other HDD, USB-HDD gives above error. Is there a way to fix it?
[18:18] <theadmin> orated: You need to use UUIDs instead of directly specifying devices in fstab and GRUB
[18:18] <m1chael> orated, you should edit fstab
[18:18] <viktor> theadmin, ok, let's not do that then. but any idea how i get the card reader to work? it's a logon lcr002, i can't seem to find anything of a driver
[18:19] <theadmin> viktor: "check if the pcsc daemon is started" =>  service --status-all | grep pcsc
[18:20] <webpageuse> is that log got problem? pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth): requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "hockloon"
[18:20] <orated> theadmin: m1chael So, from LiveUSB I should change /dev/sda7 in fstab with its partition UUID? and sudo update-grub?
[18:20] <theadmin> orated: Pretty much, in the kernel commandline.
[18:21] <m1chael> orated, it depends the grub your using
[18:21] <orated> theadmin: Um, I didn't get what you mean by kernel CLI?
[18:22] <orated> m1chael: Sec, I'll check that
[18:22] <viktor_> theadmin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1132981/ no pcsc, there is pcscd?
[18:23] <m1chael> orated, the line should look something like this UUID=a7dc5bcd-0e79-4d7c-8028-e38f6acfc9a4  /     ext2    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[18:23] <theadmin> viktor_: That's the one, it's not running so "sudo service pcscd start"
[18:23] <m1chael> or4n, in fstab.
[18:23] <theadmin> orated: Well, that's in the grub configs, I'm not sure
[18:24] <mabe> stupid question... but is it possible to use a kernel w/o initrd? I just compiled one myself, but although it does boot successfully it shows me a couple of errors like "failed to create pty" and so on...
[18:24] <theadmin> mabe: Yes, it is. Gentoo kernels are usually initrd-less, for example.
[18:24] <m1chael> orated, check https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2#Combining_the_use_of_UUIDs_and_basic_scripting
[18:24] <klj613> how can i find out why shutdown/restart doesnt work? it halts on the loading part, but the actual gif (image) doesnt update. so all 5'ish dots are always white
[18:25] <webpageuse> can anyone answer this question?
[18:25] <mabe> theadmin: I guess the shown errors are non-critical? full message goes like this : "failed to create pty - disabled logging for job \ no such file or directory"
[18:25] <Paola> Hello back
[18:25] <webpageuse>  usermod[10105]: change user 'guest-dvbvXq' password
[18:25] <theadmin> klj613: Try this trick: open /etc/default/grub, look for a line that says GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="blah blah blah", change it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="blah blah blah reboot=bios"
[18:25] <Paola> please  how to make command install for java 6  ?
[18:25] <theadmin> klj613: Save the file, run update-grub
[18:25] <viktor_> theadmin, nothing new, service --status-all | grep pcsc still gives the same output
[18:26] <theadmin> Paola: sudo apt-get install icedtea-6-plugin
[18:26] <theadmin> viktor_: How about "service pcscd status"?
[18:26] <Paola> after  again command   ?
[18:26] <webpageuse> is dvbvXq intented?
[18:26] <klj613> theadmin, the issue is related to ATI drivers / dual monitors / xorg. should i still try that trick?
[18:26] <orated> Thanks
[18:26] <m1chael> webpageuse, r u the root on that machine?
[18:26] <theadmin> klj613: Oh, huh. So it reboots when ATI drivers aren't in use? Then never mind.
[18:27] <webpageuse> i am the root but i dont log as root
[18:27] <webpageuse> webpageuse is my standard user
[18:27] <cloudgeek> what is paylaod size of a token ring !
[18:27] <klj613> theadmin, when i change my ati config (turn monitor off/on, or off etc). when i restart it halts. and alt+sysrq reisub doesnt even work
[18:27] <Kingsy> can anyone offer some advice on my problem?
[18:28] <Paola> but why slow video on youtube  ?
[18:28] <klj613> if i turn off by physical button, then it boots back in
[18:28] <viktor_> theadmin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1132993/
[18:28] <webpageuse> i copy paste from admin login
[18:28] <klj613> its just it wont turn off properly
[18:28] <m1chael> webpageuse, so, sudo sur root ---> type password
[18:28] <theadmin> viktor_: Eh, add sudo to that
[18:28] <m1chael> webpageuse, sorry, sudo su root ---> type password
[18:28] <The_Cog> cloudgeek: I think it's around 4k
[18:28] <theadmin> m1chael: That's the wrong way to do it.
[18:28] <theadmin> webpageuse: Don't run m1chael's command, it doesn't update the environment properly, use "sudo -i"
[18:29] <m1chael> theadmin, y is that?
[18:29] <dabears2> hi
[18:29] <webpageuse> i just want to know anything odd
[18:29] <theadmin> m1chael: It doesn't set the environment correctly. Variables and such.
[18:29] <webpageuse> before i reformat
[18:29] <Paola> icedtea-6-plugin is already the newest version.
[18:29] <Paola> icedtea-6-plugin set to manually installed.
[18:29] <Paola>  
[18:29] <viktor_> theadmin, with sudo there's no output
[18:29] <Paola> what say problem   ?
[18:29] <theadmin> Paola: YouTube has nothing to do with Java, you know.
[18:30] <theadmin> viktor_: Hm... I suppose the service isn't working. As for why, I have no idea.
[18:30] <m1chael> theadmin, ahh login shell. sorry didn't knew that.
[18:30] <Paola> i dont know
[18:30] <Kingsy> is there a special procedure to removing drivers?
[18:30] <Paola> i am new this ubuntu 10.04.4 lts lucid linx
[18:30] <viktor_> theadmin, no driver?
[18:30] <Paola> i am new this ubuntu 10.04.4 lts lucid linx
[18:30] <theadmin> Paola: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[18:30] <Paola> is already
[18:30] <theadmin> Paola: HTML5 is slow. If you have no Flash, youtube falls back to HTML5, and is slow.
[18:30] <m1chael> theadmin, never had an issue with the command i've typed on ubuntu machine.
[18:30] <RomeoAva> My browser fonts looks in BOLD after instal some windows fonts
[18:31] <theadmin> viktor_: Maybe... I have no idea
[18:31] <theadmin> Kingsy: If they're installed from APT, just sudo apt-get remove them
[18:31] <ls612> Hi all
[18:31] <Kingsy> theadmin: I have no idea how it was installed.. it just "worked"
[18:31] <ls612> I have an issue with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[18:31] <Kingsy> but the performance I am getting from them is HORRIBLE..
[18:32] <webpageuse> Dimension-C521 su[10126]: + ??? root:guest-dvbvXq
[18:32] <webpageuse> what does that mean?
[18:32] <theadmin> Kingsy: What did you install?
[18:32] <m1chael> bye bye anyone
[18:32] <naasei> hello, how do I connect to the internet from a commandline
[18:32] <theadmin> naasei: What kind of connection?
[18:32] <Paola> theadmin thnx for help me
[18:32] <viktor_> does anybody have ideas to get a smart card reader to work that's not recognized?
[18:32] <naasei> from an rj45 cable
[18:33] <theadmin> naasei: sudo ip link set eth0 up ; sudo dhcpcd eth0 ;
[18:33] <theadmin> naasei: Err.
[18:33] <Kingsy> theadmin: nothing, I had a nvidia card.. upgraded to a sapphire 6850 HD, plugged it in booted up.. it worked.. I then tried the propriety drivers from the "additional drivers" menu.. they seemed buggy so I removed them from the same menu. Now I am here.. I didnt install any open drivers manually
[18:33] <theadmin> naasei: sudo ip link set eth0 up ; sudo dhclient &disown
[18:33] <theadmin> naasei: Sorry, I'm thinking Arch
[18:33] <Paola> so virtualbox ose i try this on windows xp but is work driver for webcam on virtualbox ose ?
[18:34] <ls612> I managed to install Ubuntu 12.04 alongside Windows 7, but now Ubuntu has no internet access.
[18:34] <naasei> thanks
[18:34] <bilel> j|: thanks for the info
[18:34] <Kingsy> theadmin: I am thinking the ATI/AMD drivers are the best way to go and they might have been buggy because I didnt install them from the website.. I used ubuntu.. so I was going to try them again directly from AMD.. but now I don't know if I should be removing anything before I try??
[18:34] <Paola> theadmin so virtualbox ose i try this on windows xp but is work driver for webcam on virtualbox ose ?
[18:34] <webpageuse> and this Successful su for guest-dvbvXq by root
[18:34] <naasei>  I am only 13 and love ubuntu
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> ls612  wireless?
[18:34] <ls612> I have a Toshiba S855-S5254 computer with an Atheros AR8161/8165 Ethernet Controller.
[18:34] <ls612> @Monkeydust: No, wired.
[18:35] <webpageuse> is guest-dvbvXq is this exist?
[18:35] <webpageuse> a hack?
[18:35] <Kingsy> theadmin: can you offer some advice.. ?
[18:35] <Paola> 2012-08-06 21:33:57 (323 KB/s) - `./adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.236.orig.tar.gz' saved [14132125/14132125]
[18:35] <theadmin> Kingsy: I have no idea, "lsmod" and look for which driver is loaded.
[18:35] <Paola> how to make remove this   saved package  ?
[18:36] <theadmin> Paola: You don't. It will remove it after it's installed.
[18:36] <chackal_sjc> 6260123
[18:36] <theadmin> Paola: It's just a temporary file.
[18:36] <webpageuse> any idea this is normal?
[18:36] <Paola> Download done.
[18:36] <Paola> Flash Plugin installed.
[18:36] <Kingsy> theadmin: I know what driver is loaded.. someone in here told me that I cant just "install" a different driver.. I need to reinstall xorg and everything..
[18:36] <Paola> oh okey thnx
[18:36] <Paola> so
[18:36] <Kingsy> I am trying to find out what is true and what isnt
[18:36] <the_gamer> i have a gtk3 colortheme consisting only of a index.theme and i want to have those colors in the settings.ini of another theme. what is the best way to convert them?
[18:36] <theadmin> Kingsy: Eh... Do you have an xorg.conf? If so, try deleting it.
[18:36] <Paola> theadmin  virtualbox ose i try this on windows xp but is work driver for webcam on virtualbox ose ?
[18:37] <Kingsy> theadmin: I know the driver I am using the is open radeon 6800 series one
[18:37] <theadmin> Paola: Speak English, please, that made a negative amount of sense.
[18:37] <webpageuse> i never create guest-dvbvXq, how come it exist in log?
[18:37] <theadmin> webpageuse: GNOME has a "guest session" tool.
[18:37] <webpageuse> any verification?
[18:37] <Kingsy> theadmin: where is xorg.conf? and what would deleting it do? I don't wanna break anything here
[18:37] <the_gamer> the colors changed when updating from ubuntu 11.04 to 12.04 and i need the old ones back and i only find those new themes and the old colorscheme. the old one does have way more letters to be simple hex. please help me to convert it
[18:37] <naasei> how do i copy a text from the chat?
[18:37] <webpageuse> but my ubuntu version is 12.04 LTS
[18:37] <theadmin> Kingsy: /etc/X11/. Deleting it will just make X autoconfigure rather than use a predefined configuration which NVidia drivers create.
[18:38] <webpageuse> so is it unity by default?
[18:38] <Kingsy> theadmin: and do you have to reboot to get it to reconfigure?
[18:38] <Paola> I have virtualboxose i try on windows xp but i can install on webcam in virtualbox on windows in Ubuntu  ?
[18:38] <theadmin> webpageuse: Unity = Gnome with a nifty skin on top.
[18:38] <webpageuse> and i never install gnome
[18:38] <theadmin> Kingsy: No, just restart X (alt-prtsc-k)
[18:38] <felipe__> e0t4
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Paola: you need the closed source one for raw usb access
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> webpageuse: unity is the default shell n Ubuntu and it still uses Gnome3 as the desktop
[18:39] <naasei> how do i copy text from a chat
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> naasei: which client?
[18:39] <theadmin> naasei: Um, Ctrl-C?
[18:39] <Kingsy> theadmin: that key combination did nothing..
[18:39] <ls612> Does anyone have any ideas on what to do?
[18:40] <alo21> hi all
[18:40] <naasei> from this chat
[18:40] <Gary_inNYC> i have an annoying issue with Precise, and after looking around, i discovered it existed since April of 2011, which puts to question quality control LTS : https://launchpadlibrarian.net/71471397/Screenshot.png
[18:40] <theadmin> Kingsy: Uh, where did you press it? It's supposed to be pressed in a running X session. Either way, you can just "sudo service lightdm restart || sudo service gdm restart"
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> naasei: yes, which client are you using to connect to this chat
[18:40] <alo21> is there a way to add jamendo in RhYthmbox 2.96?
[18:40] <Kingsy> theadmin: umm ok
[18:40] <naasei> x-chat 2.4.4
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Gary_inNYC: are there bugs reported?
[18:41] <Paola> theadmin i can install flashplugin-nonfree     ????
[18:41] <Paola> theadmin i can install flashplugin-nonfree     ????
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> naasei: swipe the text as you expect and hold left click then press CTRL+C
[18:41] <Gary_inNYC> ActionParsnip: yeah it's in the forums, but there doesn't seem to be any followup
[18:41] <theadmin> Paola: No reason to do that.
[18:41] <Paola> oh
[18:41] <naasei> thank you
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Gary_inNYC: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[18:41] <Paola> but again slow youtube ? :-w :-?
[18:42] <Paola> theadmin  but again slow youtube, why  ? :-w :-?
[18:42] <RomeoAva> what do you recommend about gnome tweak tool. I have problems in browsers with fonts, they are Bold
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> Paola: can you give a pastebin of:   lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -i | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'      Thanks
[18:43] <RomeoAva> many people sad that: First, Install the Gnome tweak tool.
[18:44] <Kingsy> theadmin: just rebooted.. restarting the services just seemed to hang.. I am back in the OS now but  there isnt a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/ at all now
[18:44] <Kingsy> theadmin: how is it possible that I can see an output on the monitor without an xorg.conf?
[18:44] <Gary_inNYC> ActionParsnip: this was a fresh install of the latest LTS on a separate user's machine, which I don't have on hand.  I was just a little annoyed since it's a confirmed bug that shouldn't have survived to LTS:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/753304
[18:44] <theadmin> Kingsy: And that sounds just right. X autoconfigures if there isn't one. You only need one in weird situations.
[18:44] <Paola> ActionParsnip:   No LSB modules are available.
[18:44] <Paola> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[18:44] <Paola> Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[18:44] <Paola> Release:	10.04
[18:44] <Paola> Codename:	lucid
[18:44] <FloodBot1> Paola: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:44] <Paola> Linux L-I-N-U-X 2.6.32-41-generic #94-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 6 16:51:39 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:44] <klj613__> 1
[18:45] <Kingsy> theadmin: oh ok .. so now.. I should just install the propriety driver?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Paola: you didn't run what I said but it's good enough
[18:45] <theadmin> Kingsy: Maybe, maybe not. Is it working fine now?
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> Gary_inNYC  add your name in the list of affected users
[18:45] <Paola> ok brb
[18:45] <Gary_inNYC> MonkeyDust: will do
[18:45] <Kingsy> theadmin: I cant tell.. is it possible to get some kinda app that does a performance test on the graphics card?
[18:46] <theadmin> Kingsy: Hm, glxgears?
[18:46] <orated_> theadmin, Sorry I got disconnected. Here is my fstab - http://pastebin.com/NvE6Z8sw . I see that / swap are listed with UUID's so ...
[18:46] <Kingsy> theadmin: also, ever since I started to use the open radeon drivers I don't have sound from vlc or flash
[18:46] <theadmin> orated_: Told ya it's in the grub configs, fstab is fine by default
[18:46] <theadmin> Kingsy: Well those two sound entirely unrelated.
[18:46] <Doxin> what API provides the individiual volume control per app? I'd like to write a python script to monitor and change volume per application. any pointers?
[18:47] <orated_> theadmin, grub.conf file in etc ?
[18:47] <ls612> Does anyone have any idea what I need to do to get my internet working? (or more specifically, what driver I need to get)
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Paola: can you use a PASTEBIN and give the output of the command I gave please
[18:47] <Kingsy> theadmin: really? even if when I install the other graphics drivers the sound works?
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> ls612  network manager or a fix IP address
[18:47] <m1chael> ls612, what kind of a connection is it?
[18:47] <ls612> Wired.
[18:47] <Kingsy> whatever.. nm I guess thats a pulseaudio thing
[18:47] <theadmin> Kingsy: I have no idea to be honest.
[18:48] <ls612> I have an Atheros AR8161/8165 Ethernet Adapter
[18:48] <m1chael> ls612, pppoe or pptp?
[18:48] <Kingsy> theadmin: np.. so glxgears
[18:48] <Kingsy> let me see
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> ls612: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[18:48] <ls612> I cant connect to anything, it says that there are no network devices detected.
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> ls612: can you ping your routers internal P address?
[18:49] <Kingsy> theadmin: apt-get returns --> mesa-utils <-- is that what I need?
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> IP
[18:49] <ls612> Nope.
[18:49] <orated_> theadmin, found it /boot/grub/grug.conf I'll try what said before
[18:49] <theadmin> orated_: Don't touch grub.cfg
[18:49] <m1chael> ls612, try ifconfig and pastebin it
[18:49] <ls612> I'm running Windows 7 right now, and the internet works fine.
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> ls612: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[18:49] <theadmin> orated_: GRUB configs are under /etc/grub.d/ and /etc/default/grub, editing grub.conf manually will lead to sad results.
[18:49] <ls612> I'll do those and come back with the results.
[18:50] <theadmin> Kingsy: Yeah
[18:50] <orated_> theadmin, Ah-ok. Thanks ... I'll try that
[18:51] <MFen> how do you assign keyboard shortcuts to launchers/apps in unity? i've searched and searched and found nothing useful.
[18:51] <Jordan_U> orated_: theadmin: grub uses UUIDs by default. Nothing should need to be changed.
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> orated_: what do you want to change i grub?
[18:51] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Oh.
[18:51] <MFen> i know about meta+1,2,3,...9 but i have a lot more than 9 launchers. i want e.g. meta+c to be chromium and meta+g to be gimp
[18:51] <ls612> How do I copy/paste the results of the Command Line?
[18:51] <m1chael> ls612, right mouse click copy
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> ls612: ctrl+shift+c to copy and ctrl+shift+v to paste, or use mouse
[18:52] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Well, we're having trouble with being unable to boot after inserting another HD (removing it helps)
[18:52] <m1chael> ls612, go pastebin.com
[18:52] <viktor_> opensc and pcsc don't work, can't use smart card reader, any help pls?
[18:52] <Odra> >:C
[18:53] <m1chael> viktor_, check dmesg after you connect card reader
[18:53] <Odra> Why is it so difficult to program crossplatform
[18:53] <MFen> is there ANY way to assign a keyboard shortcut? btw the "keyboard" settings applet doesn't even work. can't click on it, can't change anything
[18:53] <Kingsy> theadmin: naaa I am still getting really bad performance
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut
[18:53] <m1chael> Odra, different integer width
[18:53] <ls612> http://pastebin.com/DW8gNNiM
[18:54] <MFen> ActionParsnip: as i said, that does not work for me
[18:54] <Odra> m1chael: But my problem is with list views D:
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> ls612: that tells us nothing
[18:54] <ls612> sorry.
[18:54] <MFen> some article said i need to change enable_accels in gnome config, and i did that, and i still can't change anything in that page
[18:54] <theadmin> Kingsy: I see, well, you can attempt to install another driver alright
[18:54] <Odra> Who the eff invented GTK treeview
[18:54] <Odra> Its not an over kill its a coding massacre
[18:54] <ls612> Sorry. What should I do?
[18:55] <Kingsy> yeah np
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> ls612: if you can run:  sudo lshw -C network   in Ubuntu, copy the file to the NTFS (as windows is garbage and cannot read Ext4), you can then pastebin it
[18:55] <ls612> OK, I'll do that. Sorry for being noobish,
[18:55] <viktor_> m1chael, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1133037/
[18:57] <m1chael> viktor_, do you what kind of a card reader it is?
[18:57] <MFen> i'll see if keytouch makes any difference..
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> !away > Aaton_off
[18:58] <viktor_> m1chael, logon LCR002, there's no driver for it as far as i can find, it should work with opensource, but i think there's a new bug
[18:58] <WiredClicker> hey me and my friend bob cant get ubuntu to use our usb mic
[18:59] <root____1> How do I use my usb mic?
[18:59] <Paola> how to make install and key appt for wine and playonlinux  ?
[18:59] <orated_> Jordan_U, ActionParsnip Here is my original question - http://pastebin.com/xfBq95jU - I'm trying if setting UUIDs in grub configuration files helps
[18:59] <WiredClicker> i tried everything
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | root____1
[18:59] <WiredClicker> ubuntu doesnt want me to use my mic
[18:59] <viktor_> m1chael, there's a workaround for opensc-tool, but it doesn't seem to work for me https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcsc-lite/+bug/973886
[18:59] <WiredClicker> and when i try to talk on skype it makes demonic noises
[18:59] <WiredClicker> help!
[18:59] <Paola> how to make install and key appt for wine and playonlinux  ?
[19:00] <MFen> ok, keytouch dead right out of the gate
[19:00] <MFen> so, i'm still dead in the water here. cannot create shortcuts.
[19:00] <Jordan_U> orated_: Again, grub already uses UUIDs by default. I don't know what you plan to change, but at least make sure you know how to undo it.
[19:00] <bipul> i have a problem my microphone audio is not working
[19:00] <orated_> Jordan_U, Yes, I'm trying to understand
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> _bob: you are stll running the client process as root, bad idea
[19:00] <_bob> I turned on my usb mic and it says my ethernet is plugged in.
[19:01] <Paola> please help me how to make install and key appt for wine and playonlinux  ?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> Paola: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get update
[19:01] <_bob> And it mounted my mic as a sdb1 ethernet
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> Paola: and please don't repeat like that, you asked the same users the same thing. I'm VERY sure they saw the first time
[19:01] <_bob> So I casted sdb1 as an integer, and unmounted it.  And remounted it as a string.
[19:01] <bipul> Can any one help me, my audio is not working
[19:02] <acke> _bob sick mic, where can i buy?
[19:02] <_bob> And now I don't have internet.
[19:02] <WiredClicker> well if they saw it how come no one answered
[19:02] <Paola> okey
[19:02] <WiredClicker> we cant use our mic
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> _bob: can you give a PASTEBIN of the output of:  lsusb; lsb_release -a; uname -a     Thanks
[19:02] <ls612> im back.
[19:02] <WiredClicker> no one knows how to fix a usb mic on ubuntu
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> ls612: please pastebin the file :)
[19:02] <Paola> i can install wine and playonlinux on ubuntu 10.04 lts lucid lynx  ?
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> WiredClicker: : can you give a PASTEBIN of the output of:  lsusb; lsb_release -a; uname -a     Thanks
[19:02] <Paola> its work or bad slow   ?
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> Paola: yes
[19:02] <_bob> Everytime i turn on my mic using alsapulsemixer, I get an interget overflow
[19:02] <WiredClicker> i tried modding udev and it gave me the following error: "martha stewart error 404 mics dont work on linux"
[19:02] <bipul> ?
[19:02] <Paola> okey but how to make install  >
[19:03] <Paola> ?
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> Paola: it will work, you do realise that Lucid desktop only has 9 months support left...
[19:03] <ls612> http://pastebin.com/KANx5zX7
[19:03] <bipul> ActionParsnip:  my auido is not working
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> (20:01:20) ActionParsnip: Paola: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get update
[19:04] <bipul> am  i visebal ?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> bipul: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[19:04] <MFen> so, if you disable unity, what happens?
[19:04] <orated_> theadmin, I'm really not able to figure out what I've to change in grub configuration files to fix my problem - http://pastebin.com/xfBq95jU
[19:04] <WiredClicker> i used a command someone told me once and it deleted my barney porn
[19:04] <_bob> I used rm -rf *
[19:04] <WiredClicker> help!
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> !danger | _bob
[19:05] <_bob> It was supposed to fixed my audio, but instead it turned on my webcam.
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> bipul: its a terminal command...
[19:05] <theadmin> orated_: As Jordan_U said, GRUB uses UUID by default, so that's not it
[19:05] <bipul> ok wait
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> ls612: seems its not in precise yet but will be in Quantal (Ubuntu 12.10 which is pre-release now), https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/927782
[19:05] <ls612> Can I get Quantal now?
[19:06] <theadmin> ls612: Go to #ubuntu+1 for Quantal-related stuff
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> ls612: yes but its officially not stable but could work, !wfm
[19:06] <ardian> Hi is the last Blender in the Ubuntu repo ?
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> ardian: if not, there  may be a PPA with a newer version
[19:07] <orated_> theadmin, Ok, then is there any other way to fix it? It just doesn't boot after error - libcrypt version: 1.5.0 Could not stat the resume device file /dev/sda7 Please type in the full path name to try again or press enter to boot the system
[19:07] <ardian> ActionParsnip, I can only find the tar.gz file
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Paola: it's in the repos, just use sotfware centre as you expect
[19:07] <ardian> in their site
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> ardian: not from the site, from a pp
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> ppa*
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | ardian
[19:07] <ardian> where do I get the link for that ppa
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> ardian: look up....
[19:07] <ardian> ok
[19:07] <Kyshtynbai> Hi guys, are there any ways in Unity to make compiz SCALE function show all windows in all desktops, not only in current one?
[19:08] <bipul> ActionParsnip:  i am using Ubuntu 10.04.2
[19:08] <bipul> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=032dd06aaa1b8bc8f1cb1400539f823933bb90e4
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> bipul: try:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-iquik/alsa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*               wait 10 seconds, reboot then try sound
[19:09] <alexidoia> hello and help
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> alexidoia: just ask
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> ls612: you could always try the live CD, see if it works there :)
[19:11] <ls612> thx.
[19:11] <orated_> Hello! My system motherboard failed that I'm not able to boot Ubuntu. But I thought I if I can try the HDD on another working system as USB-HDD. I inserted my drive in portable HDD and tried to boot but it gives following error - libcrypt version: 1.5.0 Could not stat the resume device file /dev/sda7 Please type in the full path name to try again or press enter to boot the system - From LiveUSB boot I found that sda7 is swap partition. When I try to
[19:11] <orated_> boot from USB-HDD without having any other HDD in the system, it boots fine but with any other HDD, USB-HDD gives above error. Is there a way to fix it?
[19:11] <ls612> ActionParsnip: Would that also make my cooling fan work properly?
[19:11] <alexidoia> my box did not want to start today, I booted on rescue mode and launched fsck, I waited all day long, the only ouput I had was "end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> ls612: the newer kernel may help. Do you use a switchable video chip by any chance?
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> alexidoia: sounds like a bad disk
[19:12] <alexidoia> the system one !
[19:12] <alexidoia> ActionParsnip: more can I do ?
[19:13] <alexidoia> ActionParsnip: what *
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> alexidoia: you could grab the ultimate boot CD and test the drive with the manufacturers tool (the disk has the tools from the main HDD manufacturers)
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> alexidoia: I had the same and I replaced the drive and it was fine
[19:13] <alexidoia> ActionParsnip: you replace the disk you mean ?
[19:13] <ls612> I don't know what a switchable video chip is, so I guess not.
[19:13] <ls612> I have a Toshiba laptop.
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> ls612: doesn't say much, toshiba make a tonne of differnet systems
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> ls612: if you look in device manager, do you see 2 different display chips?
[19:14] <Kingsy> ok guys, I have just installed the propriety AMD catalyst control drivers from AMD directly.. however lspci -k | grep VGA still says I am using 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Barts PRO [ATI Radeon HD 6800 Series]   <-- which is still the open ones right?? does that mean i am not using the correct driver?
[19:15] <Kingsy> shouldnt it be fglrx or whatever its called?
[19:15] <ls612> no
[19:15] <ls612> It is a Toshiba S855-S5254 to be more precise
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> ls612: ok then it's just a single gpu, which is good :)
[19:15] <deadmund> Kingsy: that output does not show the driver name.  Only the hardware name
[19:15] <alexidoia> ActionParsnip: what is the ultimate boot CD ?
[19:15] <apw> orated_, i would have thought you could just remove swap from the fstab, worth a try
[19:15] <deadmund> Kingsy: fglrx is the proprietary driver name
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> alexidoia: why not use the internet to find out instead of asking....
[19:16] <alexidoia> ActionParsnip: I am on the site, but it does not say much
[19:16] <deadmund> Kingsy: lspci -k does show driver names.  But what you posted here in the channel does not appear to list the driver in use.
[19:16] <apw> orated_, i suspect you have a /dev/sdxxx in your fstab instead of a UUID= so its confused now the disk name has changed
[19:16] <Kingsy> deadmund: so how do you check to see what driver you are currently using? to make sure you are using the propriety one?
[19:17] <Kingsy> sorry I thought that lspci -k showed that module you were currently using
[19:17] <deadmund> Kingsy: lspci -k   (but sometimes that lies) the BEST way is to look at lsmod.  lsmod's output is very large so use grep
[19:17] <tech1_> in xfce how do i disable that annoying hand thing which comes up which moves around windows. it seems to come up randomly when interacting with the gui and often moves the window somewhere weird -sometimes completley off the screen where i cant see it. its a good thing xfce didnt remember window positions or i wouldnt have been able to see the program again after restarting
[19:17] <deadmund> Kingsy: read what I said.  lspci -k  does show the driver.  But you did not paste enough of the output to show the driver name here in the channel.
[19:18] <orated_> apw, Yes commenting swap partition line in fstab is worth trying. Here is my fstab - http://pastebin.com/rNNWcnLZ it got UUIDs
[19:18] <Kingsy> deadmund: oh ok.. let me have another look
[19:18] <Kingsy> oh yeah Kernel driver in use: fglrx_pci
[19:19] <deadmund> Kingsy: there ya go
[19:19] <apw> orated_, that reference is still to the real disk name, thats somewhere else, somewhere /etc/
[19:19] <apw> orated_, its the resume device ...
[19:19] <Kingsy> deadmund: still.. I am not happy with the driver.. the output on the 3rd monitor isnt full screen
[19:19] <Kingsy> it was with the open radeon drivers
[19:19] <deadmund> Kingsy: so then use the open source drivers?
[19:20] <apw> orated_, look in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume and see whats there ...
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> alexidoia: you kidding!! The first page lists all the tools on the disk....
[19:20] <Kingsy> deadmund: the performance was HORRENDUS
[19:20] <Kingsy> deadmund: like so bad even screensavers were jumpy.. heh
[19:20] <jiffe98> what are some good cheap raid cards that are supported by ubuntu?
[19:20] <deadmund> Kingsy: well pick the one that you think is best
[19:20] <jiffe98> LSI doesn't seem to have very good support
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | jiffe98
[19:21] <orated_> apw, output is RESUME=UUID=33cf34fd-5a44-414a-b0cb-b5e3843deacc
[19:21] <Kingsy> mmm kay
[19:21] <alexidoia> ActionParsnip: yes, but I did not know what it was
[19:22] <jiffe98> ActionParsnip: what section would I look for raid cards?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> alexidoia: there are the tools for testing HDDs on there from Maxtor, Seagate, IBM and many others
[19:22] <alexidoia> ok thanks
[19:22] <alexidoia> mine is samsung
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> jiffe98: try http://linuxhcl.com/browse/search?category=34
[19:23] <orated_> apw, which is different from swap UUID mentioned in fstab ... um?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> alexidoia: then search the first page sor the word samsung...what do you find?
[19:23] <orated_> Sorry, its same.
[19:23] <bipul> ActionParsnip:  in my other machine also same isuse http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=64170d064fe20a7c9ad6b8de02df9b1246e08a87
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> bipul: use the same command to upgrade alsa, why such an old release??
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> alexidoia: what did you find?
[19:25] <bipul> i like old is gold
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> bipul: its EOL in 9 months, Precise is supported until 2017...
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> bipul: Precise also has later drivers and kernel which may help
[19:26] <WeThePeople> does scapebox work in linux?
[19:26] <bipul> ActionParsnip:  no problem :)
[19:26] <MFen> !shortcut
[19:27] <MFen> ubottu: you're a goddamn liar
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: what does it do, its not listed in wine's appdb..
[19:28] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, its a url harvester, scraper.. and much more
[19:29] <dnewkirk> Can someone help me problem solve a sftp config issue?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: why would you want to harvest urls?
[19:30] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, for fun
[19:30] <POVaddct> dnewkirk: please be more specific
[19:31] <dnewkirk> I am getting a subsystem request failed on chennel 0 error. I found that my sshd_config file was empty (might have been erased after an update?), but even after updating that nothing seems to work.
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: is there not an addon or extension for web browsers for it
[19:32] <POVaddct> dnewkirk: what is the output of: grep Subsystem /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: from what I've seen I've no idea why anyone would even do it at all...
[19:32] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, scrapebox is a standalone program for winxp, vista, 7, 8
[19:33] <dnewkirk> POVaddct: Subsystem sftp internal-sftp
[19:33] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, i will have to use my virtualbox for the program
[19:34] <POVaddct> dnewkirk: i never used internal-sftp, only the external binary (/usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server)
[19:34] <MFen> i'm just gonna ask again.. does anyone know how you actually assign custom keyboard shortcuts to launchers in the panel in unity?
[19:34] <MFen> the keyboard config applet does not work
[19:34] <POVaddct> dnewkirk: but i am running debian here, maybe ubuntu switched to internal-sftp
[19:35] <ghano> hi guys
[19:35] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, could you help with a VB problem i am having?
[19:35] <pr0ndigy> hi
[19:35] <ghano> any plugins for skype on firefox
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> MFen: super #  defaults to the items in order.
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: http://www.filetransit.com/files.php?name=Url_Harvester
[19:36] <POVaddct> dnewkirk: if the external binary /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server is already present, you can try that one
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: so you are going to virtualise windows just for that...really?
[19:36] <POVaddct> dnewkirk: replacing the line in sshd_config to: Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: is there vb in ubuntu?
[19:37] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, yes
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> ghano: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/
[19:37] <WeThePeople> 10.04 LTS
[19:37] <ghano> any plugins for skype on firefox
[19:37] <ghano> please
[19:37] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, thanks for the link
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> ghano: check the link I give you
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> ghano: why request help if you are going to ignore suggestions...
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: probably better in a vb channel really
[19:38] <aubre> Does anyone know of a fix for when the left mouse click just stops working ? It's a very new mouse, came with this new pc.
[19:39] <dnewkirk> POVaddct: I've replaced it, but nothing is working yet.
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> aubre: have you tried in Unity2D session?
[19:39] <dnewkirk> Might try a reboot
[19:39] <POVaddct> dnewkirk: do you use the Chroot feature of sshd?
[19:40] <aubre> ActionParsnip: Yes, that's what I am using right now
[19:40] <dnewkirk> Not at the moment, no.
[19:40] <pr0ndigy> is there a /command to hide the joins/quits in a room?
[19:40] <DJones> pr0ndigy: Which irc client are you using
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> pr0ndigy: which client?
[19:40] <aubre> dnewkirk: reboot fixes it. I don't want to have to reboot randomly through the day
[19:40] <pr0ndigy> i'm using the webchat.freenode.net
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> pr0ndigy: look in the top left of the window, there are settings there
[19:41] <DJones> pr0ndigy: I think its on one of the drop down menus for the webchat clienty
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> pr0ndigy: you can even change the colour :)
[19:41] <aubre> It also happens in XFCE
[19:41] <POVaddct> dnewkirk: i'd suggest to strace the sshd process when connecting with an sftp client
[19:41] <pr0ndigy> menu up top doesn't seem to work correctly
[19:41] <pr0ndigy> oh well
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> aubre: when it happens, bring up a terminal  (CTRL+ALT+T) and run:  dmesg | tail    what is output?
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> pr0ndigy: i'd ask in #freenode
[19:42] <ghano> thank you I will
[19:42] <aubre> ActionParsnip: ok, will do thanks
[19:42] <ghano> sorry i just didn't submit my thanks
[19:43] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, do you know where i can paste a picture in a url.. eg. paste.ubuntu.com
[19:43] <ghano> ActionParsnip: I did install the add on but still doesn't work
[19:43] <CaffeCorretto> hello
[19:43] <pr0ndigy> does installing ubuntu from usb, and selecting "download updates" include the newest kernel?
[19:43] <DJones> !imagebin | WeThePeople
[19:44] <Poindexter_> Prondigy check this out:   http://forum.rizon.net/showthread.php?740-Disable-Join-and-Part-messages
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: imageshack, imgur
[19:46] <Poindexter_> Has anyone here used a SATA Port Multiplier? Any latency problems?
[19:46] <ghano> no problems why?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Poindexter_: i'dask in ##hardware
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive ever seen a sata port mutplier
[19:47] <Poindexter_> #Hardware is invite only.
[19:47] <pr0ndigy> does installing ubuntu from usb, and selecting "download updates" include the newest kernel?
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> or regietered nick only
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Poindexter_: then get registered and identified and you can walk in
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> pr0ndigy:  i think so.
[19:47] <Poindexter_> Anyways, the Port Multiplier is a nice idea. It is like a HUB for SATA devices.
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> pr0ndigy: i'd say so but it can cause issues
[19:48] <prcIII> i just tried to install netExtender and it is saying that I have a missing library file libssl.so.6
[19:48] <prcIII> how do i resolve this
[19:48] <prcIII> I have tried everything on the first few pages of google search results
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> !info netextender
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> !find libssl.so.6
[19:48] <prcIII> !find libssl.so.6
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> !find libssl.so
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> prcIII: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[19:48] <prcIII> ok then what
[19:48] <dnewkirk> POVaddct: Verbose output from sftp seems to indicate the failure happens when sending subsystem: sftp. The binary is there, but I'm not sure it's working. It's a bit odd.
[19:49] <prcIII> ActionParsnip it is precise
[19:49] <prcIII> I have 12.04
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> looks like you need the libssl* packages
[19:49] <POVaddct> dnewkirk: you should strace the server side. debug output of the client might not be enough.
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> prcIII: try:  sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[19:50] <Poindexter_> I did find one serious issue with SATA and Windows. Doing a search on a SLAVE drive crashes not only the computer but also with VBOX as well, i.e. 1.5 TBytes or more.
[19:50] <pr0ndigy> is the sequence to get all the updates... "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> Poindexter_: its offtopic here
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> pr0ndigy:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to pull in any held packages oe kernels may be needed also
[19:51] <Poindexter_> I don't know how Ubuntu would stand up to a Port Multiplier.
[19:51] <dnewkirk> POVaddct: I've got it working. had to do a apt-get purge and reinstall openssh-server. Seems a lot of the config files got fouled up!
[19:51] <POVaddct> dnewkirk: whatever happened at the last update... :)
[19:51] <prcIII> i installed the libssl-dev
[19:52] <josh13> hi guys
[19:52] <n00bzz> is there any way to defrag a NTFS drive via linux?
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> n00bzz: i wouldn't use anything but windows defrag on an NTFS partition
[19:52] <Poindexter_> Noobzz I would't trust it.
[19:53] <n00bzz> oh ok
[19:53] <n00bzz> thank for the advice
[19:53] <n00bzz> i wont try
[19:53] <Poindexter_> Why can't you defrag with Windows boxen?
[19:53] <josh13> i just installed 12.03 on my system, how can I get my nvidia 610 to output HDMI?
[19:53] <n00bzz> 12.03?
[19:53] <n00bzz> that exist?
[19:54] <Poindexter_> Noobzz are you dual booting?
[19:54] <dnewkirk> POVaddct: Apparently apt-get decided my life wasn't exciting enough...
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> Poindexter_: as long as there are kernel drivers for the controller, it will work
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> n00bzz: 12.04
[19:54] <n00bzz> Poindexter_: well yes
[19:54] <josh13> thats what i meant
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> josh13: is the HDMI set as the output device?
[19:54] <Poindexter_> Just boot up in Windows mode and defrag there.
[19:54] <catcher> How can I figure out when the update manager will switch to an updated piece of software? (in particular, svn 1.7)
[19:54] <n00bzz> i just wanna stay on linux, defrag a ntfs drive, resize it and make another 10gb partition to install gentoo
[19:54] <josh13> ActionParsnip: No, TBH I dont know how to even chaange that as nothing is listed under display options
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> josh13:  i had to install the pulse audio volume control tool 'pavcontrol' (i think) and twiddle with it to get my hdmi audio working
[19:55] <Poindexter_> Make sure after you defrag you reboot and defrag once more to clean out the CONTIGUOUS FILE.
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> catcher: sudo apt-get update; apt-cache policy svn    to see what packages are installed and what is avalable
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> josh13: search dash for sound.
[19:55] <n00bzz> Poindexter_: what means contiguous file?
[19:55] <josh13> not just sounbd, video too, I am displaying video through VGA
[19:56] <Poindexter_> The contiguous file is a temp file or like in Linux a SWAP file. It exists on your drive.
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> josh13: what video chip do you use?
[19:56] <Poindexter_> When you defrag in Windows the SWAP or CONTIGUOUS file exists. After rebooting you will defrag and remove the SWAP data.
[19:56] <n00bzz> oh ok
[19:57] <josh13> ActionParsnip: its a nvidia 610
[19:57] <n00bzz> i understand
[19:57] <n00bzz> thank
[19:57] <catcher> ActionParsnip, no mention of the newer 1.7, does that mean I'd have to add a new repo?
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> catcher: if its not in the official repos, then yes
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> josh13: did you install the nvidia driver?
[19:58] <josh13> off of software center or the nvidia site ?
[19:58] <catcher> ActionParsnip, is there somewhere I can read on the plans to update?
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> josh13: no need, this isn't windows
[19:58] <David23400> IF i installed lubuntu from boot with a CD , How can i remove it later?
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> josh13: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[19:59] <WeThePeople> any help with this would be nice.. http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1705/screenshot3rl.png
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> David23400: uninstall lxde and openbox and it should remove most of it...
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: i'd ask in #vbox
[20:00] <morphis> olli: ping
[20:00] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, i did :)
[20:00] <theadmin> WeThePeople: Please start reading errors. sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: the issue is with virtualbox, so that's a more precise channel for your issue
[20:01] <WeThePeople> yes ok
[20:01] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: The issue is specific to the Ubuntu vbox package. Other packages autoconfigure themselves :/
[20:01] <Poindexter_> WeThePeople it looks like a permissions problem. Also check to see what type of version XP it is. Upgrade or other.
[20:01] <josh13> ActionParsnip: doing that now, can you explain the first sudo to me?
[20:02] <stenh> hi
[20:02] <stenh> sry i am new here :D
[20:02] <theadmin> WeThePeople: Run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup. That should fix it.
[20:02] <Paddy_NI> Hello I am trying to fix my intel graphics on my laptop (ubuntu 12.04) after an update about a month ago upon rebooting I was left with a very low resolution and I have been stuck with it ever since
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> josh13: its all one command, the first part adds a new source, you have quite a new nvidia gpu which will benefit from the newer drivers
[20:02] <WeThePeople> poindexter, actually all the OS's dont work
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: does that not need sudo?
[20:03] <josh13> ah ok, then I run nvidia-settings to configure it?
[20:03] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: It does, I just assume people would figure out when stuff needs root permissions, sorry, I'm used to su-based systems more
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> josh13: you need the driver first
[20:03] <tking> pls how do i find a file
[20:03] <josh13> ActionParsnip: Ok i did everything u told me too
[20:04] <tking> i know the file name but dont know where it is saved
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> tking: sudo updatedb  first
[20:04] <soap_> Why are there 3 flood bots
[20:04] <soap_> Is that necessary?
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> tking: then you can use the 'locate' command
[20:04] <n00bzz> soap_: they are there to watch you
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> soap_: for 1700 users, yes
[20:04] <tking> how to use locate command?
[20:04] <daniel2> Hi i have backed up my home folder on a ubuntu 10.04 install using rsync. i installed 12.04 and again rysnc the backup home to the /username/home folder! are there any configuration problems that i may run into? i noticed all my preivous bash history has come across my firefox bookmarks etc etc! it there anything else i should be concerned about?
[20:04] <theadmin> tking: "locate filename".
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> josh13: did you see it build the kernel module?
[20:04] <Poindexter_> WeThePeople I have been running Win7 as the HOST and other OS's as GUESTS. It seems to work fine except for OSX. You may need to format the Guest for the File System and so forth.
[20:04] <WeThePeople> trheadmin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1133155/
[20:04] <WeThePeople> theadmin, see above
[20:05] <josh13> ActionParsnip: umm sure, it did a ton of stuff
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: you can run:  sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist     to clean that up
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> josh13: ok then reboot
[20:05] <theadmin> WeThePeople: How did you install virtualbox anyway? You should use the repo package
[20:05] <acke> daniel2, all you application configurations are in hidden folder in your home/
[20:05] <WeThePeople> poindexter, i know it has to do with the kernel, cuz i installed 'LinuxCNC' and it changed the kernel
[20:06] <Poindexter_> By the way there is a crutial upgrade for Virtual Box. Make sure you install it. However, you may have to do all of the work over again.
[20:06] <WeThePeople> theadmin, from the software center
[20:06] <josh13> kk rebooting
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> !info linuxcnc
[20:06] <theadmin> WeThePeople: Oh, hm, what Ubuntu version re you at?
[20:06] <acke> daniel2: if you have installed and configured your applications on the new system, i would take case putting old configs on top of that. :)
[20:06] <WeThePeople> theadmin, 10.04 LTS
[20:06] <Paddy_NI> What would happen if I was to delete xorg.conf xorg.conf~ and xorg.conf.failsafe
[20:07] <theadmin> WeThePeople: Ah, hm... sudo apt-get install dkms, then try that command again
[20:07] <Paddy_NI> then reboot
[20:07] <daniel2> acke: i copied all of them to the new install!! will there be any confusions after this?
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_NI:  x auto configures for the most part these days
[20:07] <Paddy_NI> Dr_Willis, so effectively it should re-detect my graphics hardware?
[20:07] <pr0ndigy> after i get ubuntu installed with all the updates and apps that i want on it. is there a way to make an install CD of the system for future re-installs?
[20:07] <acke> daniel2: i guess it could be, if the configs are for old versions on the applications you are running.
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_NI:  you can rename them then restart the x server if yiou wanted
[20:08] <Paddy_NI> Dr_Willis, okay cool going to try that
[20:08] <acke> daniel2: usually its just to remove the applicaiton folder, to fix a broken applicaiton, so i dont think it is a biggy. :)
[20:08] <daniel2> acke: i think it;s a case of wating to see what problems i run into!! i have to upgrade a friends computer in the same way!
[20:08] <josh13_> ActionParsnip: ok I am back, my tv is now at the correct resolution, how do I do the HDMI
[20:09] <alexidoia> ActionParsnip: there ?
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: try:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> alexidoia: yes
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> josh13: is the system a laptop?
[20:09] <josh13_> no
[20:10] <pr0ndigy> vwGTIguy2010
[20:10] <alexidoia> I boot from UBCD, chose HDD, then diagnosis, then SAMSUNG utility, then a few load stuff, then ... nothing
[20:10] <alexidoia> ActionParsnip: ^
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> josh13_: try nvidia-settings   see if you can activate it there...
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> alexidoia: did you test the memory?
[20:10] <alexidoia> ActionParsnip: last stuff on screen IDLE: Going resident
[20:11] <alexidoia> ActionParsnip: you think, dmseg did not say nothing about memory
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> alexidoia: its worth testing
[20:11] <Paddy_NI> Dr_Willis, Grr.. I'm stuck with the same low resolution :-(
[20:12] <Dr_Willis> Paddy_NI:  i dont know your issue or details.. ;)
[20:12] <Paddy_NI> Dr_Willis, oh sorry
[20:13] <wd11> Anyone familiar with Audacity?
[20:13] <akls> wd11, a bit
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> !anyone
[20:13] <Paddy_NI> Dr_Willis, I have been stuck with the mighty low-resolution of 1024x768 for about a month ever since I one day performed an update and restarted
[20:14] <Paddy_NI> Dr_Willis, I believe my normal resolution is 1440x900
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: why GPU?
[20:15] <wd11> i recently downloaded audacity and recorded a recording that was in normal speed for 20 secs and then double speed for 20 secs and so on through the entire recording. the problem is that i want to recover the recording. How should i go about this?
[20:15] <akls> I've found some fun gestures on synaptics site. How can I enable them in ubuntu? Here's a link http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/technology/touchpad-linux
[20:16] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, Sorry ?
[20:16] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, oh actually my normal resolution is 1600 x 900
[20:16] <maslow> Is there a linux alternative for Adobe's Lightroom?
[20:17] <akls> wd11, so you select your double speed part and click Effect/Change speed
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: what video chip do you use?
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> maslow  what's ligtroom exactly?
[20:17] <wd11> ok through the whole thing its gonna be a manual fix?
[20:17] <fredbr69> salut
[20:17] <n00bzz> is it possible to install ubuntu on the second partition of a usb drive(first partition not being bootable, it is only data there)
[20:17] <n00bzz> !fr fredbr69
[20:17] <acke> daniel2: yes, I believe so, I wouldnt hasitate to do the upgrade and the restore rsync back, but then again I never get ride of the todo lists i have from the last updates..
[20:17] <wd11> i kinda thought that might be the case
[20:18] <wd11> tedious
[20:18] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, Oh I am not sure exactly what it is but this is lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/1133176/
[20:18] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, I just got back from Kingston, Ontario yesterday
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: its an Intel GPU then
[20:18] <Paddy_NI> :-)
[20:18] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, oh yep sorry
[20:19] <maslow> MonkeyDust, it does photo manipulations, removes red eye, etc.
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> maslow: looks like a photo editor...
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> maslow: try GIMP
[20:19] <maslow> ActionParsnip, it's that but and then some
[20:19] <wd11> thanks!
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: if your display isn't reportng EDID you may have to fight with xorg.conf
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> maslow: I dunno, Gimp can be really extensive
[20:20] <Paddy_NI> maslow, http://alternativeto.net/software/adobe-lightroom/?platform=linux
[20:20] <ilian_> Hi, can anyone help me and tell me what this does "some_command  2>&1"
[20:20] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, Hmm EDID?
[20:20] <maslow> ahh...thanks ActionParsnip & Paddy_NI
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: good monitors and screens report their refresh rates and other capabilities to the system so that the driver runs correctly
[20:21] <ls612> Well, I was an idiot.
[20:21] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, I wonder why this one suddenly does not :-(
[20:21] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, I has worked for the past few ubuntu releases
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: maybe its the xorg version, or the driver version for intel...
[20:22] <ls612> I deleted my partition containing Ubuntu 12.04, and forgot that that was where GRUB was, so now I can't boot to anything :(
[20:22] <ls612> what can I do?
[20:22] <ice799> Hi. I am using 10.04 on a 64bit system. Is there a way to ask apt to list the packages that have been installed after the system was setup. For example, N packages were installed when I installed the system from the CD. I then added 10 packages. Is there a way to get a list of those 10 packages ?
[20:22] <akls> I've found some fun gestures on synaptics site. How can I enable them in ubuntu? Here's a link http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/technology/touchpad-linux
[20:22] <n00bzz> ls612: just reboot on a live cd
[20:22] <n00bzz> ls612: and modify your grub
[20:23] <mental_mickey> Hi all
[20:23] <DarkAceZ> all hi
[20:23] <ls612> n00bzz: how do i fix GRUB?
[20:23] <mental_mickey> Is there any list of common aliases for ubuntu out there?
[20:23] <n00bzz> ls612: editing the text file
[20:24] <theadmin> mental_mickey: "aliases" as in...?
[20:24] <n00bzz> configuration text file
[20:24] <W4sp> maslow: There is no one single tool for it. You would need to split the tasks required into bits and build your own workflow. That can look like a) convert RAW files, b) manage them, c) manipulate one or many in batch, d) export and make web/album/print ready.
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> ls612: you can reinstate grub from the liveCD: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[20:24] <SEVMEK46>  who can help me?
[20:24] <mental_mickey> As in alias ls="ls -l"
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> ls612: if you only have windows installed you will need to reinstate the windows bootloader, ##windows will help there
[20:25] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, my computer shut off unexpectedly while installing the linux headers.. now when i run the command sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` it shows E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem, what to do?
[20:25] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, What do you think of this as a solution https://launchpad.net/~glasen/+archive/intel-driver
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> mental_mickey: you can check in ~/.bashrc  for aliases
[20:25] <ls612> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll go there.
[20:25] <n00bzz> ls612: if u had windows installed, i think you only need to reboot with the windows cd, and make it repair
[20:25] <mental_mickey> I guess I can do some google dorking tee hee
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | WeThePeople
[20:25] <ls612> My windows restore is on the HDD. Which I can't boot to.
[20:25] <n00bzz> ls612: doing the format/mbr c:
[20:25] <mental_mickey> :P
[20:26] <theadmin> mental_mickey: /etc/bash.bashrc and ~/.bashrc
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: worth a try
[20:26] <mental_mickey> Yeah I know
[20:26] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, I figure add the ppa perform an apt-get update / upgrade and reboot :-/
[20:27] <mental_mickey> But I'd like to know some smart common tricks
[20:27] <mental_mickey> I use the terminal a lot
[20:27] <mental_mickey> Hence I'd appreciate some advice
[20:27] <primefalcon> on what exactly?
[20:28] <theadmin> mental_mickey: Well, I have ls aliased to "ls --color", ":q" and ":wq" to "exit"
[20:28] <mental_mickey> Common aliases that should be enabled by dwfault
[20:28] <theadmin> mental_mickey: But that's about it. I also use the Z shell, rather than bash. It's more powerful.
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> mental_mickey: you can make your own, anything you run a lot you can script or alias so you can rnun it quicker
[20:29] <mental_mickey> I was educated on bash :P
[20:29] <Dr_Willis> !abs
[20:29] <mental_mickey> Yep actually I have some of them
[20:29] <mental_mickey> Just looking for some new ideas
[20:29] <Dr_Willis> tldp.org has other bash guifes also
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> look at old ideas. ;)
[20:30] <mental_mickey> Like what? :P
[20:30] <wayne_> hello all
[20:30] <mental_mickey> DOS?
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> bash prompt howto
[20:30] <mental_mickey> XD
[20:31] <theadmin> mental_mickey: I also suggest aliasing "apt-get" to "sudo apt-get", "service" to "sudo service", etc
[20:31] <mental_mickey> Yep
[20:31] <mental_mickey> Theres one liner o use a lot
[20:31] <mental_mickey> Shutdown=shutdown -P 0
[20:31] <DarkAceZ> let's say I want to backup my entire ubuntu installation... Would it work to compress it after it's copied to another hard drive?
[20:32] <gr33n7007h> how do I create an alias for: wpa_supplicant -B -D wext -i wlan1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicnt.conf -dd
[20:32] <deadmund> DarkAceZ: why would you compress it AFTER it's copied?
[20:32] <gr33n7007h> istead of typing all the time
[20:32] <DarkAceZ> well, would compressing work at all?
[20:32] <deadmund> DarkAceZ: Sure, why wouldn't compressing work?
[20:33] <gr33n7007h> or to run at start-up
[20:33] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: alias start_wireless="wpa_supplicant -B -D wext -i wlan1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicnt.conf -dd"
[20:33] <deadmund> gr33n7007h: http://www.hypexr.org/bash_tutorial.php#alias
[20:33] <mental_mickey> Darkacex why don't you write a shell script?
[20:33] <gr33n7007h> theadmin, the do i just tyoe start_wireless?
[20:33] <DarkAceZ> with all those symlinks, and, well, basically, files that I don't know what they are or do.
[20:33] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: Yeah, you can make it shorter too, like "wi" or something.
[20:34] <deadmund> DarkAceZ: I've never tried it but a symlink can be compressed without any issues.
[20:34] <ls612> n00bzz: what is format/mbr c:?
[20:34] <mental_mickey> I would write a ah file, chmod it, and make an alias
[20:34] <wayne_> I am trying to work with Cheese in 12.04 but its unpredictable, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt why is that
[20:34] <gr33n7007h> theadmin, thank you very much ;D
[20:34] <theadmin> gr33n7007h: To make it permanent, save it to ~/.bashrc. Also add sudo at the start of the command as "sudo start_wireless" won't work.
[20:34] <n00bzz> ls612: oh maybe it is fdisk
[20:34] <n00bzz> ls612: fdisk/mbr
[20:34] <gr33n7007h> ok thanks theadmin
[20:35] <n00bzz> it is to put back the master boot record
[20:35] <n00bzz> without losing your files
[20:35] <n00bzz> but anyway
[20:35] <n00bzz> windows cd should do it alone
[20:35] <FloodBot1> n00bzz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:35] <ls612> where do I do fdisk?
[20:36] <n00bzz> ls612: i dont fully understand, you cannot put back the windows cd on cd-drive,  reboot, and it dont try to repair the mbr itself?
[20:36] <ls612> I have no windows restore CD. :(
[20:36] <ls612> I forgot to make restore media because I was stupid.
[20:37] <n00bzz> do you have some blank dvd?
[20:38] <ls612> yes, I have plenty of those
[20:38] <Poindexter_> Noobzz if you want your DATA back, SLAVE the drive in question and recover the DATA. Forget fdisk /mbr
[20:38] <n00bzz> ls612: oh, do you have ubuntu livecd?
[20:39] <ls612> At this point, my data can be restored from other methods.
[20:39] <Ogalan> Hi all
[20:39] <ls612> yes, I have live Ubuntu 12.04, but the internet doesn't work on that.
[20:39] <Ogalan> Does anyone know of some nice trick to speed up Ubuntu?
[20:39] <Ogalan> something like the miracle patch
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> ls612, this W7?
[20:39] <ls612> Yes.
[20:40] <deadmund> Ogalan: what do you think?
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> ls612, you can get a recovery disc for 10$ on the net
[20:40] <n00bzz> ls612: http://superuser.com/questions/402065/repair-windows-7mbr-with-hirens-boot-cd
[20:40] <Ogalan> i mean, Linux 12.04 runs so slowly on my dated netbook
[20:40] <Ogalan> ubuntu 10.04 works just fine
[20:40] <Ogalan> even with compiz
[20:40] <deadmund> Ogalan: that's unity and the newer gnome libraries
[20:41] <zetheroo> I am sharing a folder using Samba but a Windows 7 PC cannot see my Ubuntu PC on the network //.
[20:41] <n00bzz> ls612: when you resolve your things, you should search, find, download and burn a dozen of kind of rescue disc
[20:41] <Ogalan> well that's a pity
[20:41] <ls612> yes, I will certainly do that.
[20:41] <zetheroo> is this related to workgroups
[20:41] <zetheroo> ?
[20:41] <n00bzz> ls612: can you download right now and burn a cd?
[20:41] <deadmund> Ogalan: yeah, try installing xfce or lxde or something
[20:41] <ls612> a cd of what?
[20:41] <n00bzz> hirens bootcd
[20:42] <ls612> I don't want to pay money.
[20:42] <Ogalan> tried xfce
[20:42] <n00bzz> hirens cost money?
[20:42] <Ogalan> and noticed the biggest difference when switching window managers
[20:42] <Ogalan> not desktops
[20:42] <Ogalan> :P
[20:42] <n00bzz> ls612: u really think i will tell you things that would cost you more than a blank cd or dvd?
[20:42] <deadmund> Ogalan: well, keep trying stuff until you're happy.  Simpler ones like awesome are really fast.
[20:43] <Poindexter_> Noobzz recover your DATA and re-format the disk and install the OS again. Simple.
[20:43] <Ogalan> what's awesome? never heard of it?
[20:43] <ls612> not really. where do I get this bootcd?
[20:43] <Ogalan> is it a compositing manager or something?
[20:43] <deadmund> Ogalan: http://awesome.naquadah.org/
[20:43] <n00bzz> ls612: i am trying to find i got problem with FF i see nothing
[20:44] <n00bzz> black font on black background dont help to read
[20:44] <Ogalan> ok thank you deadmund , i'll check it out ... :)
[20:44] <Poindexter_> Hiren's Boot CD doesn't always work because it cannot replace the FAT file which your OS created. Maybe the MBR.
[20:44] <deadmund> Ogalan: sure
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> ls612, here is the recovery disc link I would not mess around here get the correct tool. http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/windows-7-system-repair-discs/
[20:44] <Ogalan> if only i could use the console for mostly everything
[20:44] <Ogalan> i know i can
[20:44] <Ogalan> :P
[20:45] <ls612> should I call my computer manufacturer?
[20:45] <ls612> I am still under warranty.
[20:45] <Ogalan> i'd like to ask something if you don't mind
[20:45] <Ogalan> are there any public sources.list files for ubuntu?
[20:46] <Ogalan> something like a directory
[20:46] <Ogalan> just wondering anyway
[20:46] <deadmund> tons of them.  Look at this: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[20:46] <deadmund> Ogalan: ^
[20:46] <Ogalan> ok
[20:46] <Ogalan> wow, thanks
[20:46] <Ogalan> :)
[20:46] <deadmund> sure :)
[20:46] <n00bzz> ls612: http://www.hirensbootcd.org/files/Hirens.BootCD.15.1.zip
[20:46] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, thanks for the help you got my VB workin :)
[20:47] <n00bzz> ls612: download, extract, burn on cd, reboot
[20:47] <n00bzz> ls612: there is like 150 rescue software on this bootable disc
[20:47] <n00bzz> about everykind of problem
[20:48] <n00bzz> why you dont have any windows cd?
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> n00bzz, you are not supposed to be posting stuff like hirens.
[20:48] <n00bzz> wilee-nilee: why?
[20:48] <n00bzz> it is all freeware stuff
[20:48] <Diaz> Hello. How do I give a user permission to a certain folder?
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> n00bzz, channel rules period
[20:48] <n00bzz> wilee-nilee: channel first rule is helping
[20:48] <n00bzz> helping each others
[20:49] <n00bzz> to make our world better
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> n00bzz, this is not a argument, you are not making the world better, you are following your ego.
[20:49]  * MonkeyDust tries awesome now
[20:49] <n00bzz> maybe we should have did that on pm, but did not thinked about, been like 2 years i did not went on irc
[20:49] <n00bzz> especially not in freenode
[20:50] <Neytiri> i am having a issue with my system not installing, i have EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti     and i am gotting no video and i am trying to install 11.10 and getting no video
[20:50] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: awesomewm?  hardest wm i've ever used - but i love it now.  uber-light ;)
[20:50] <Diaz> How do I give a user permission to a certain folder?
[20:50] <n00bzz> wilee-nilee: i been helping someone, what wrong is that?
[20:50] <joe__> Neytiri, have you tried 12.04?
[20:50] <Neytiri> yes and no luck either
[20:50] <joe__> does your board also have onboard video?
[20:50] <joe__> (motherboard)
[20:50] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | Neytiri
[20:50] <Poindexter_> Congratulations WeThePeople.
[20:51] <MonkeyDu1t> not good
[20:51] <Neytiri> no
[20:53] <Diaz> How do I give a user permission to a certain folder?
[20:53] <zetheroo> Ubuntu 12.04 with samba installed - I have shared a folder on the local LAN but other Windows 7 machines cannot see my computer on the network
[20:54] <lordcirth> How can I install 32bit gstreamer on 64bit?
[20:54] <Neytiri> zykotick9: i dont get that option when i pop inthe disk
[20:54] <retnan> please guys, how do i disallow read access to /home directory
[20:55] <zykotick9> Neytiri: at the very first screen, with the little man, you have to press a key i believe (not sure if it's a specific key you need)...  sorry i can't be more help.
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> retnan  basically, that sounds like: how do i throw away the key to my door
[20:56] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: other way around isn't it?  like locking the door.
[20:58] <hakansan> hi
[20:58] <hakansan> anyone there?
[20:58] <deadmund> !ask
[20:58] <deadmund> hakansan: people are here
[20:58] <hakansan> ok
[20:58] <deadmund> 1680 people
[20:58] <hakansan> ı am new about ubuntu
[20:59] <hakansan> how can ı talk the people?
[20:59] <pr0ndigy> what's a good antivirus program to use in 12.04?
[20:59] <deadmund> I'm a person!
[20:59] <hakansan> ok ı got it
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> hakansan, non support chat would be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:00] <deadmund> pr0ndigy: You don't need antivirus software in linux thus there isn't any good antivirus program
[21:01] <null1024> pr0ndigy: ClamAV exists, but I've never used it.
[21:01] <pr0ndigy> so you're trying to say that there are no virus threats for linux?
[21:01] <deadmund> ClamAV actually looks for windows viruses
[21:01] <lordcirth> deadmund: It looks for both actually
[21:01] <deadmund> pr0ndigy: Yes basically.  Although this conversation is controversial
[21:01] <deadmund> lordcirth: Ahh, didn't know that :)
[21:02] <null1024> there is also a version of Avast! antivirus
[21:02] <lordcirth> deadmund: Its mostly heuristic, so it can in theory find both. But ofc it rarely finds Linux viruses :)
[21:02] <null1024> but last time I used it, the virus database had gotten so big that it stopped working
[21:02] <deadmund> mmm, thanks :)
[21:02] <SolarisBoy> anyone aware of a way to log or view the history of ACPI wakeup events?
[21:03] <retnan> MonkeyDust: i dont want others knowing about others'
[21:03] <hellyeah> hey
[21:04] <hellyeah> anyone know about btrfs checking
[21:04] <hellyeah> man fsck.btrfs or man btrfsck does not work
[21:04] <hellyeah> why is that
[21:04] <retnan> i run a virtual host with lots of virtual users and dont want other users seeing other users directory incase they run a PHP shell
[21:06] <tech1_> when i type "vim" in terminal it says i can apt-get install different packages (vim, vim-gnome, ..athena...gtk..nox). what are the differences? im using xfce so should i just get the vim one
[21:07] <jiffe98> anyone use a highpoint 2720SGL with ubuntu
[21:07] <deadmund> tech1_: vim is cli only, vim-gnome must have some gnome specific stuff.  Not sure what athena or nox is
[21:07] <jiffe98> wondering if it has full raid support and how well it works
[21:07] <deadmund> tech1_: I don't see what the difference between vim-gnome and vim-gtk might be though
[21:07] <tech1_> well which one is more likley to be compatible with xfce?
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> tech1_  try vim
[21:08] <coolman_bg> hello ubuntu :)
[21:08] <tech1_> and if vim is just cli, dosnt that make it just vi...
[21:08] <tech1_> ok ill try
[21:08] <deadmund> tech1_: regular vim
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> vim is vi-improved
[21:08] <deadmund> tech1_: vim and vi are both CLI only.  vi sucks compared to vim
[21:10] <tech1_> i see thanks
[21:11] <twirm> Can someone help me with a Unity bug?
[21:11] <TheLordOfTime> twirm:  is it really a bug, and is there a bug report already on it?
[21:11] <TheLordOfTime> (if it actually is a bug)
[21:11] <twirm> I can't seem to theme my GTK theme or my icons all of the sudden
[21:12] <twirm> I've tried tweaking them from gnome-tweak-tool and myunity and I'm having no luck
[21:12] <twirm> it seems like I can't theme my fonts anymore either
[21:13] <TopGrL> hi
[21:13] <twirm> I assume this is caused by some package I've recently installed, but I can't seem to hunt it down
[21:14] <hirsty> -sigh- hey all still having dual boot issues :(
[21:14] <Phoenix87> hallo
[21:14] <Phoenix87> can someone help me with this question? http://askubuntu.com/questions/172601/cant-upgrade-from-11-10-to-12-04 thank you!
[21:17] <twirm> TheLordOfTime, any chance you can help me with that?
[21:18] <FreeRangeRadical> IcedTea doesn't seem to be working in Chrome beta or Chromium. What do I do to update it?
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Phoenix87, have you looked in software sources and set it a t LTS or any new version, which ever works?
[21:20] <Phoenix87> wilee-nilee: yeah tried everything
[21:20] <Phoenix87> wilee-nilee: both normal and lts
[21:20] <Guest23491> Question on ubuntu 12.04 server install. Please acknowledge.
[21:21] <bmw> Question on ubuntu 12.04 server install. Please acknowledge.
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> !ask
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> Phoenix87, hmm not sure then myself, something is up.
[21:22] <n00bzz> !patience
[21:22] <ls612> Well, I fixed the issue. I remembered that I still had that free space that used to store Ubuntu, so I installed Ubuntu to that and as part of the process it rewrote GRUB. Yay!
[21:23] <hirsty> Need help guys windows 7 refusing to boot from my grub2 loader >.>
[21:23] <bmw> Apologies.  Question: On installation of Ubuntu 12.04 server, deleting software RAID array for three 2TB drives in pizzabox server, is now only at 57% after three days. Seems that the --zero-superblock is not working. Can I stop without damage to the hard drives and begin again?
[21:23] <hollenjf> Ive loaded a ubuntu live cd  and I want to run testdisk to repair the HDD, but I have to be root. How to I get root access with su?
[21:24] <zaitzev> hey folks
[21:24] <DarkAceZ> [✔] Same
[21:24] <dwarder> which tool should i use to back up my hdd?
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[21:24] <zykotick9> hollenjf: "sudo -i"
[21:24] <pterpan> hey, i don't really now how to describe this issue but i'll try. On ubuntu 12.04, when I lower the volume it goes mute before it should. When the volume bar is set at approximately 20%, it goes mute. Any known fix? - thanks alot!
[21:24] <MasBejo> hollenjf <-- sudo su
[21:24] <zaitzev> quick question, is it possible to have a secondary .bash_history, that is written to a file/location that is unavailable for the user in question?
[21:25] <zykotick9> MasBejo: don't use that!  hollenjf
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> MasBejo: sudo -i     is advised
[21:25] <javis_> I am running 12.04 for maybe a month now....but as of last week i haven't been able to login and it doesn't recognize my accounts/passwords in console mode
[21:25] <hollenjf> hehe ok
[21:25] <MasBejo> hehe
[21:26] <dwarder> i need a dd type backup but not backuping the empty space
[21:26] <javis_> I've seen where others can't login in but their issues seem to be slightly different from mine
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> dwarder: could use rsync
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> javis_: do you have free space on all partitions?
[21:26] <javis_> ActionParsnip: yes
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> dwarder, clonezilla will do that but the reload has to have the same size as the original.
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> javis_: if you make a new user in root recovery console, can you log in as that?
[21:27] <dwarder> wilee-nilee: i'll give it a try, thanks
[21:28] <javis_> ActionParsnip: so go to console mode and the user would be root recovery?
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> dwarder, excellent partitioner, can be slow on the save but the reload is fast.
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> hheh cloner doh dwarder
[21:29] <dwarder> :)
[21:29] <dwarder> well i hope i will be
[21:29] <dwarder> a good cloner
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> saves the mbr as well
[21:31] <User_LightDragon> Hello, can someone please help me on how to make my Ubuntu 12.04 run a command on startup?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> User_LightDragon: add the boot option:   text
[21:32] <pterpan> hi. I'm on the latest ubuntu release and I've noticed a bug when I change the volume. Whereas it should be on ~20% it goes mute. And so I get to edit the volume between 20-80%, since below 20 it goes mute. Is this a known issue with a fix for?
[21:32] <bmw> nevermind. I fixed it.
[21:32] <bmw> thx & hv a grt day. ;-)
[21:34] <User_LightDragon> Hello, can someone please help me on how to make my Ubuntu 12.04 run a command on startup?
[21:34] <gr33n7007h> User_LightDragon, What command
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> User_LightDragon:  does the command require the GUI?
[21:34] <User_LightDragon> its somthing to start up a java program
[21:35] <User_LightDragon> java [blahblahblahblah]
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> User_LightDragon: then use the startup items app and add it there
[21:35] <User_LightDragon> its minecraft Tekkit to be specific
[21:35] <User_LightDragon> do i just add the .jar or what?
[21:36] <User_LightDragon> this is my first day with Ubuntu
[21:36] <gr33n7007h> java -jar program.jar
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> User_LightDragon: yes, you will need to give the full path to the file
[21:36] <User_LightDragon> ok
[21:36] <hollenjf> I have a live cd running, I put testdisk on it. the executable wont work keeps saying Permission Denied. How do I get it to execute??
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> hollenjf: prefix the command with sudo
[21:37] <hollenjf> I am root
[21:37] <lukebrannon> i'm trying to walk through the ldap installation instructions posted here: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openldap-server.html#openldap-server-installation but I keep running into ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49) error.  I've edited my /etc/hosts file to have 127.0.0.1 set to the suffix I want but that doesn't seem to help.  I've also tried dpkg-reconfigure slapd and that doesn't resolve it either.
[21:37] <User_LightDragon> ok, testing, also, how do i allow root access/login Via GUI?
[21:38] <hollenjf> guess you dont kno
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> User_LightDragon  you don't
[21:39] <gr33n7007h> hollenjf, chmod +x testdisk
[21:39] <User_LightDragon> ok then
[21:39] <User_LightDragon> thanks guys / gals
[21:40] <_Marcus> Can I get Common Desktop Environment for Ubuntu?
[21:40] <hollenjf> gr33n7007h,: Still says permission denied
[21:40] <gr33n7007h> hollenjf, how did you install it
[21:40] <DaGeek247> @_Marcus yes.
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> _Marcus  please remove the underscore in your nic - no CDE is for unix
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> DaGeek247  ah?
[21:41] <hollenjf> gr33n7007h: its a stand alone executable. featured on the website. You download the version for your OS and run it
[21:41] <_Marcus> MonkeyDust: First you guys wanted me to remove the `, now the _? I can't go any lower using a nick I own. But I'll switch anyway
[21:42] <Incedo> MonkeyDust: But I thought Linux was Unix-like?
[21:42] <davis776> Hello there, anyone here to little help? When I login to my server over SSH this system-info shows up... In clearly installed Ubuntu 12.04 it also shows "x packages can be updated.
[21:42] <davis776> y updates are security updates.". How to enabled this in 11.10->12.04 upgrade?
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> Incedo  yeah, but it is not completely the same, or it would be called unix
[21:43] <gr33n7007h> hollenjf, give me a pastebin output
[21:43] <Incedo> MonkeyDust: ReactOS isn't Windows ;)
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> Incedo, there are shared commands
[21:43] <DaGeek247> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-August/121793.html
[21:43] <DaGeek247> @incedo
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> don't really know the difference here though
[21:44] <maplesoft>  this  http://download.oracle.com/otndocs/products/javafx/2.0.2/samples/Ensemble/index.html        says   JavaFX application requires a recent Java runtime. Please download and install the latest JRE from java.com.    iam runing linux ubuntu.
[21:45] <dwarder> anyone tried ubuntu installer for windows?
[21:45] <crc32> in XFCE how do I increase the resize border? Its like one pixel and hard to grab.
[21:45] <dwarder> is there a way to use i386 instead of 64bit?
[21:45] <wk--> http://pastebin.com/Cxx3ZtDr - trying to chmod a file but ain't working, any help ?
[21:45] <deadmund> dwarder: download the 32 bit ISO and use it to install in windows
[21:47] <dwarder> deadmund: have you tried win installer? it always hangs for me
[21:47] <dwarder> deadmund: during the work
[21:47] <deadmund> dwarder: I used it once a many months ago.  Yeah, it sucks
[21:47] <deadmund> dwarder: just don't use it
[21:47] <dwarder> ok
[21:48] <wk--> I'm trying to chmod a file but the perms are being reset. http://pastebin.com/DMBMm94G any help ?
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> wk--: is the file stored on an NTFS partition?
[21:49] <wk--> ActionParsnip: yes
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> wk--: thats why then
[21:49] <wk--> ah right
[21:49] <Ovidius> hey all.  I'm trying to connect to a WEP network with a hex-key password.   My OS X computer works fine, but Ubuntu (Aspire ONE) netbook won't connect. Is there a special format for entering it?
[21:49] <wk--> lol fail, sorry
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> wk--: you need to mount the whole partitionas executable and you can run it, why do you want to run a text file?
[21:49] <SToP_GAP> Hi
[21:51] <SToP_GAP> Can someone give me some advice re: iptables firewall/allowing active FTP on Ubuntu Server 12.04 - I'm totally stuck, just can't get it to work :(
[21:51] <ditishet> Ovidius: For 64 bit connections, the key is 10 digits long.
[21:51] <ditishet> For 128 bit connections, the key is 26 digits long.
[21:51] <ditishet> For 256 bit connections, the key is 58 digits long.
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> SToP_GAP: is this so it can be accessed over the web?
[21:52] <Ephialtes> hi, i'm having trouble getting the ubuntu 'try' option working on my pc - it's giving a kernel panic unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[21:52] <Ovidius> ditishet...  it's  a ten (hex) digit passphrase
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> Ephialtes: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[21:52] <SToP_GAP> ActionParsnip Yes it is.  I can allow an IP address full access and it works fine, so the FTP is running properly - but I can't just allow the ports out for everyone obviously.
[21:52] <Ephialtes> ActionParsnip: no i'll do that
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> Ephialtes: then how did you know it was complete and error free?
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> SToP_GAP: do you use a home grade rouer?
[21:53] <Ephialtes> i don't, but i suspect it's my hard drive causing the issue
[21:53] <SToP_GAP> This is a linode node in a data centre
[21:53] <gr33n7007h> Ovidius, iwconfig <interface> essid "YourEssid" then iwconfig <interface> key "YourHexKey" then dhclient <interface>
[21:53] <SToP_GAP> I've tried following a few guides which talk about ip_conntrack_ftp and such, but those don't seem to be present, I'm getting fatal not found errors on it (and in system boot log too)
[21:53] <Ovidius> gr33n no way to just enter the hex password ala OS X (not being snotty, just asking)
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> SToP_GAP: then you will need the port forwarding to go to that system somehow, the default iptable rules allows all trffic in and out
[21:54] <L3top> What is an Ubuntu "cloak"
[21:54] <SolarisBoy>  /window 5
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> SToP_GAP: I don't suggest you use FTP, its not very secure at all, you can install openssh-server and get a SFTP server
[21:54] <SolarisBoy> sorry.
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> !cloak | L3top
[21:54] <gr33n7007h> Ovidius, Yeah got to network manager or wicd check it for 64bit hex
[21:55] <gr33n7007h> without colons
[21:55] <SToP_GAP> I have no choice on this alas, the client needs a utility with standard FTP only connectivity to work... I'd not gone here before for a good reason!! -_-
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> L3top: you also get a cloak for being an Ubuntu member :D
[21:55] <ilian_> does anyone know a way to fix "libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel to work" without installing ia32-libs
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> SToP_GAP: gah
[21:55] <SToP_GAP> indeed!
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> ilian_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.4/+bug/40285
[21:57] <SToP_GAP> Is ip_conntrack_ftp supposed to be present in ubuntu 12?  Is it possible the kernel on Linode doesn't support it for some reason...
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> ilian_: is it to do with teamspeak?
[21:57] <davis776> How to enabled to show "x packages can be updated. y updates are security updates." after login via ssh on 12.04 server?
[21:57] <Ovidius> thanks
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> davis776: i know it sometimes says there are updatesif they are needed
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> thats some script/motd thing in /etc/ i recall davis776  i looked into it once.. but im on 12.10 now so it may be differnt.
[21:59] <ilian_> ActionParsnip, thanks for the link, no the problem is uwsgi related
[22:00] <Dr_Willis>     /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available    perhaps davis776
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> davis776: yep, its default in Precise
[22:01] <davis776> ActionParsnip: its its by default in fresh install but not 11.10 -> 12.04 upgrade
[22:01] <davis776> Dr_Willis: will try, thanks
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> put that in your .profile if you want. :)
[22:01] <SToP_GAP> OK, I'll keep digging away at it... thanks for helping ActionParsnip :)
[22:01] <SToP_GAP> Bye
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> davis776: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1133333/
[22:04] <rebe> Can I somehow change terminal font size to float number, for example 10.5 ?
[22:04] <Ephialtes> ActionParsnip how is it possible that I downloaded something and the md5 hash is wrong
[22:04] <Ephialtes> thats crazy
[22:04] <Ephialtes> i'm blown away, i'm going to kill myself
[22:05] <davis776> ActionParsnip: thats what you get? how do you get rid of Graph this data and manage this system... and other things?
[22:05] <crc32> How do I resize the resize border for xfce? One pixel is just to slipper to grab?
[22:05] <kevin> is there any reason why a process wont die with sigkill?
[22:06] <maplesoft> i am not using openjdk. but the .tar file extracted from oracle. how to make every app (for example firefox) to know that i have jre or jdk installed?
[22:06] <kevin> "kevin     8997  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        D    Aug05   0:00 [jstest]"  ... process isnt dying with kill -9
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> kevin: try kill -9   and it will die
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  best to use one of the various ppa
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  best to use one of the various ppas or scripts to install oracle java. it would take care of that.
[22:07] <Loshki> kevin: usually because it's waiting for something e.g. disk i/o to complete. The "D" in your ps output means "Disk Wait" I think...
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> !java
[22:07] <TheLordOfTime> Dr_Willis:  might be best to just install direct from the oracle binary installer
[22:07] <TheLordOfTime> Dr_Willis:  i've seen numerous reported bugs with those ppa-builders
[22:08] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis ppa?
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> TheLordOfTime:  i tend to use the webupd8 thang.
[22:08] <jiffe98> D    uninterruptible sleep (usually IO)
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> the webupd8 ppa rocks
[22:08] <trism> rebe: you can, but not from the profile preferences, in gconf-editor /apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/ProfileNameHere/font and set it to the name and size you want (I have mine 10.5 here too)
[22:08] <TheLordOfTime> Dr_Willis:  that, and the PPAs arent allowed to have Sun Java (Oracle Java) for anything but 7, i think
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html | maplesoft
[22:08] <TheLordOfTime> not completely sure on that one though
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> The scripts get the packages from Oraclas site.
[22:08] <rebe> trism: thanks!
[22:08] <crc32> Why do I only have one pixel of resize boarder to grip? How do I increase this?
[22:08] <dexter-kde> Hi. Can I talk?
[22:09] <kevin> Loshki: ah, i see.. man page shows D:    uninterruptible sleep (usually IO) ... well, it's trying to read /dev/input/js0 which doesn't exist anymore... what can i do to kill that process? ie, interrupt the uninterruptable? haha
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> dexter-kde: yes
[22:09] <kevin> (like i said, kill -9 isnt doing anything)
[22:09] <crc32> I need a thicker boarder in xfce is this possible?
[22:09] <Loshki> kevin: might have to just live with it until reboot....
[22:10] <dexter-kde> Why's my latest Kde update freezes time-to-time? Is there any bug report out there?
[22:11] <alienaut> hello, is there a shortcut to switch keyboard layout
[22:11] <dexter-kde> I updated my #kubuntu recently...
[22:11] <GunArm> does anyone happen to be able to tell if this build http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/03/revisiting-the-home-theater-pc.html will run ok on ubuntu?
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> dexter-kde: you could ask in #kubuntu
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> GunArm:  you mean run Ubuntu Ok? thats a fairly midrange pc.. so id say yes..
[22:13] <ilian_> ActionParsnip, about the libgcc bug on 12.04 it point to the correct file but is still not working
[22:13] <WHAT_UP> Is Ubuntu planning on dropping unity shell (for something other than gnome-shell or some other tablet-inspired catastrophe) any time soon?
[22:13] <L3top> dexter-kde: you should also search for more information before you do. Check /var/log/dmesg  and syslog and kern.logs Your question is way too generic
[22:13] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis ok. but are there good ways to untar and install the app on system so that all apps know its there?
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  java is very special in many ways, the alternatives 'system' is supposed to handle it.
[22:14] <L3top> I expect they plan on improving its stability, not stopping WHAT_UP.
[22:14] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis how to get javafx too?
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  that !java factoid gave the commands to get and set up java by hand that way.,.
[22:14] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis how to get javafx too by ppa i mean?
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  no idea what javafx is.
[22:14] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis its just like java jdk.
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> WHAT_UP: I doubt they will drop  Unity.....
[22:15] <WHAT_UP> that's a shame. is there some way i can sign up for an email for when canonical switches to something usable?
[22:15] <OerHeks> !nounity
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> WHAT_UP: get over it i guess. or use an alternative. theres plenty.
[22:15] <BIGBOOMBA> hi all, i'm on an acer aspire x1700 that dual boots to windows vista and ubuntu.
[22:15] <GunArm> Dr_Willis: well, i dont know much about GPUs and what it takes to actually use them (I alwasy live in fear that all my videos/games in ubuntu are doing cpu rendering), and video drivers are always hit or miss on Linux, so I guess I'm asking if Ubuntu will be able to take advantage of the intel GPU integrated on the CPU, if that would work out of the box or likely cause problems etc
[22:16] <L3top> WHAT_UP: because you do not find it stable with your setup does not mean it is "not usable" many greatly prefer it.
[22:16] <crc32> Does anyone else see the shame in no obvious or in my case known way to resize the window resize borders of xfce?
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> GunArm:  most intel is veyr well supported.
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> WHAT_UP: why not just grow up and install a different shell, or a different desktop.....not hard
[22:16] <BIGBOOMBA> hadn't been using vista at all, but recently ubuntu hangs at the splash screen
[22:16] <WHAT_UP> it's not a problem i have, but i can't recommend ubuntu to anyone as long as unity is there by default
[22:16] <tottttto> needp help I'm trying to run a python script but without success  http://pastebin.com/UJjtmxaa
[22:17] <WHAT_UP> i have yet to meet (in real life) someone who thinks unity is more usable than gnome 2
[22:17] <L3top> WHAT_UP: Nobody requires you to.
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> GunArm:  if making a home-theater-pc you may want to check out the xbmcubuntu variant(s)  and  openelec  (i think)
[22:17] <BIGBOOMBA> when i try to boot into ubuntu recovery mode, i get some diagnostic messages ending in "plymouth main process (244) killed by ABRT signal"
[22:17] <L3top> WHAT_UP: DE != Distribution
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> WHAT_UP: why is default something....you can change it...
[22:17] <k1l_> WHAT_UP: your topic would suit better into #ubuntu-discuss
[22:17] <icecube45> L3top
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> Wife and step kids had no issues with unity.. they werent 'ms trained' to expect windows...
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> WHAT_UP: you can't compare the two
[22:17] <WHAT_UP> tottttto: Except e as Exception ?
[22:17] <tottttto> WHAT_UP: yes
[22:17] <icecube45> want to thank you again for helping me yesterday L3top
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> WHAT_UP: one is a shell, one is a desktop environment
[22:17] <BIGBOOMBA> should i try burning a LiveCD using vista and booting from that?
[22:18] <BIGBOOMBA> don't care if i have to reinstall ubuntu entirely, but would like to get my files first
[22:18] <maplesoft> !ppa
[22:18] <tottttto> WHAT_UP: i run python script.py
[22:18] <L3top> BIGBOOMBA: What changed? You can probably just access the recovery console from grub and find/fix it
[22:19] <L3top> np icecube45.
[22:19] <HPHeads> !ops
[22:19] <BIGBOOMBA> in grub i don't have an option to go into console mode
[22:19] <L3top> HPHeads: don't do that
[22:19] <HPHeads> L3top, why not?
[22:19] <BIGBOOMBA> i know what you're talking about, i've done something like that before
[22:19] <HPHeads> I am ban proof afterall
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> BIGBOOMBA: why do you not have a backup of the data already?
[22:19] <BIGBOOMBA> action, you are right of course
[22:19] <L3top> HPHeads: you seem mature proof as well. Do you have a support question?
[22:20] <WHAT_UP> ActionParsnip: some people don't know much beyond opening and using mozzarella foxfire. i'm not going to have them reconfigure their shell.
[22:20] <tottttto> WHAT_UP: it's WPS tools scripts
[22:20] <kevin> Loshki: yeah that's what it looks like after some googling. processes in that D state aren't even listening for signals, so can't do anything to 'em. thanks for your help
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> WHAT_UP: then install Xubuntu and Unity isn't even installed.
[22:20] <L3top> WHAT_UP: if you think it is mozerella you should probably not be advising people to begin with.
[22:20] <WHAT_UP> tottttto: this is more applicable to #python, i think, but the standard notation is except Exception as e, not except Exception, e.
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> Mozerella? great.. now i want pizza
[22:21] <tottttto> ill try to register first
[22:21] <icecube45> MMmm pizza
[22:21] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis ok. but are there good ways to untar and install the app on system so that all apps know its there?
[22:21] <WHAT_UP> L3top: you mean it's not called mozzarella foxfire?
[22:21] <Loshki> kevin: they occupy a process slot, but otherwise I don't think they use many resources....
[22:21] <crc32> How do I set the resize border width for xfce?
[22:21] <BIGBOOMBA> is there a keyboard shortcut that i can use in grub to go into console mode if it's not one of the visible options?
[22:22] <GunArm> ActionParsnip: you mean if I install xubuntu, it has a usable desktop?
[22:22] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | maplesoft
[22:22] <BIGBOOMBA> i have the grub user manual open in another tab now
[22:22] <GunArm> i am on that
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> GunArm: it uses XFCE as the desktop, it will look like Gnome2....
[22:22] <maplesoft> zykotick9 an all other apps like firefox will know about it?
[22:23] <zykotick9> maplesoft: no, but if it's a source compile, then you can at least remove it cleanly (if you use checkinstall)
[22:23] <maplesoft> zykotick9 arnt there some normal proceedures like, untaring the app in the /bin directory?
[22:23] <L3top> WHAT_UP: mozilla. You should google them. Rather OG in the world of technology and open source.
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  the !java wiki page - shows exactly how ti install it so all the other apps know its there...
[22:23] <BIGBOOMBA> multiboot specification is a dead link
[22:24] <zykotick9> maplesoft: adding stuff manually to /bin will work - but isn't really a good idea
[22:24] <maplesoft> !java
[22:24] <BIGBOOMBA> (i mean the link from chapter 4 of the html grub manual)
[22:24] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis which wiki page?
[22:24] <phonebook_> I'm basically a Ubuntu virgin with a crazy dream of getting all three of my monitors working (RD-6850) Google is too confused. Can anyone help?
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  that one you just saw the bot say....
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> maplesoft: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[22:24] <icecube45> I have openjdk 7 and the ice tea java plugin for firefox, but when i go on a website with java, it says id o not have java, help?
[22:24] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis thats for open jdk. only
[22:25] <HPHeads> is jhustin bieber going to see selena gomez naked?
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  you use the 'update-alternatives' command/system to set them  - its NOT for openjdk only
[22:25] <HPHeads> is justin bieber going to see selena gomez naked?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> !ot | HPHeads
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[22:25] <HPHeads> yes this is support? answer my question is is justin bieber going to see selena gomez naked?
[22:25] <maplesoft> ActionParsnip yes. thats by ppa. but iam talking about tar files
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> HPHeads: its not ubuntu support, so it's offtopic here
[22:25] <L3top> BIGBOOMBA: Again... I would need to know what you did before it stopped working to try and figure out how to "fix" this... you could start looking at logs in /var/log if you do not remember. You could press the letter e at grub and try adding nomodeset... did you change/update your graphics drivers recently?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> maplesoft: why use it when there is a PPA for it?
[22:25] <phonebook_> by working i mean working as monitors, they already work great as ...future decorations or blocking what is visually behind them
[22:26] <L3top> !nomodeset | BIGBOOMBA
[22:26] <BIGBOOMBA> yeah, i did screw around with my graphics card a bit ago, i'm sure i messed something up
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/55848/how-do-i-install-oracle-java-jdk-7
[22:26] <maplesoft> ActionParsnip just to know that what should i do when theres no ppa for some app. 2. there is NO ppa for for javaFX
[22:27] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis ok
[22:27] <BIGBOOMBA> according to the grub manual i can press "c" while at the simple grub menu to get a command prompt, i might try that
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/146162/how-to-install-javafx-in-ubuntu-12-04
[22:27]  * Dr_Willis notices a pattern..
[22:27] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis just curious  what should i do when theres no ppa for some app.
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  totally depends on the app.
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> maplesoft: then extract the file and then see what is inside
[22:27] <L3top> BIGBOOMBA: that would probably require mounting the drive... whereas the recovery console will give you access to the already mounted linux install.
[22:28] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis what options are there. generallY?
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  repos, ppa's , source...
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> unless the app has some sort of 'self installer'
[22:28] <L3top> BIGBOOMBA: in console please give me the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[22:29] <BIGBOOMBA> L3top: i was under the impression that i'd need to enter the grub console just to access the current install in headless mode, because that's currently not an option in the simple arrow up/down menu
[22:29] <maplesoft> ActionParsnip similer files as with jdk
[22:29] <BIGBOOMBA> L3top: unfortunately right now i am logged into a windows vista install on the same machine
[22:30] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis if theres not selft installer and it has similer files like openjdk has. what can be done?
[22:30] <BIGBOOMBA> but if i interpreted your request correctly, you're wondering what graphics card i have, which is an nvidia
[22:31] <BIGBOOMBA> i can go get the specifics through the vista interface somehow i'm sure
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  i have no idea what 'similer files like openjdk' means..      If the program comes in a binary form, you extract it and run it.. or put it somewhere and make links so you can run it.
[22:31] <L3top> BIGBOOMBA: try adding the nomodeset in case it is graphics related as a sort of catch all... otherwise you might try forcevesa (do not remember the exact command)... so that you can get into your linux install and we can fix it
[22:31] <L3top> BIGBOOMBA: windows cannot even see linux drives... much less fix them
[22:32] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis ActionParsnip ok. in what folder are installed programs are placed, so that normally... each programs knows its there?
[22:33] <zykotick9> maplesoft: this DOESN'T answer your question - but things outside of repo are often placed in /opt (but that's not in PATH by default)
[22:33] <David23400> if i try lubuntu without installing in boot , it will be more laggy than if i had isntalled ? or its just the same situations?
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> !fsh
[22:33] <BIGBOOMBA> L3top, i was just going to use windows to look at my graphics card, not the linux drive. anyway, i'm looking at the thread on nomodeset now and it appears that i will need to restart, enter grub, and then change that setting there somehow
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> Theres a Linux Filesystem Hiarchy guide that details what goes in what dirs.
[22:33] <maplesoft> zykotick9 i thought it was /bin somewhere?
[22:34] <phonebook_> so - radeon 6850 with 3 monitors.... crazy huh?
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> Stuff not from the repos should go in /opt/ or somewhere like that.. Not in the normal system dirs
[22:34] <maplesoft> ActionParsnip  in what folder are installed programs are placed, so that normally... each programs knows its there?
[22:34] <zykotick9> maplesoft: that will work - but it's bad practise IMO
[22:34] <L3top> BIGBOOMBA: unfortunately while I am very adept at linux gpu issues, I do not look at their advertized names, I deal only with PCIIDs
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  linux uses a default 'PATH' to find apps..
[22:34] <maplesoft> zykotick9 ok. what is the complete bin path?
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> $ which java
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> /usr/bin/java
[22:34] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis what is that path?
[22:34] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: ;)
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  do  'echo $PATH'
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> May be time to learn some bash basics also...
[22:35] <tottttto> WHAT_UP: solution was to run python2
[22:35] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis oh ok. all apps are in /usr/bin/folderNameOFThatApp??
[22:35] <VeraMono> sudo updatedb
[22:35] <L3top> BIGBOOMBA: many different chipsets exist under the same advertized name... with their own specific needs, depending on the manufacturer... but it is a start I guess.
[22:35] <enchilado> Dave2: it really gets people confused sometimes
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  No.. but they MAY have links to a executable in the path.
[22:35] <VeraMono> then locate
[22:35] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis but normally the need of links is not needed.?
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  totally depends on the app.
[22:36] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis ok.
[22:36] <zykotick9> maplesoft: you might consider ~/bin - much cleaner then /bin
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  go to /usr/bin and look (ls -l) see all the linked apps
[22:36] <maplesoft> zykotick9 ActionParsnip Dr_Willis thanks!
[22:36] <maplesoft> zykotick9 what is ~/bin
[22:37] <PyjamaSpank> when I switch workspace, how do I stop my desktop "scrolling"? I want the backgrounds and desktop icons to be static. Lost my setting upgrading Ubuntu and I now can't find the solution.
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> the bin directiry in your HOME. :)
[22:37] <zykotick9> maplesoft: ~ = your home directory.  so /home/foo/bin
[22:38] <BIGBOOMBA> okay, so it seems like i'll be able to fix this if i can get into the current linux install in console mode. not sure if i want to hit "c" or "e" at the grub simple menu interface.
[22:38] <maplesoft> zykotick9 every app usually looks other apps in /usr/bin
[22:38] <maplesoft> zykotick9 every app usually looks other apps in /usr/bin . not in /home
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  you really could benifit from learn ing some bash.. /home/YOURUSERNAME/bin IS in the default path if it exists..
[22:38] <zykotick9> maplesoft: actually if ~/bin exists, then it will look there by default as well (must exist at login, so after created logout/backin)
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> right. got to be there when you login :) I always make it as soon as i make a new system/user.
[22:39] <BIGBOOMBA> oh, i want to highlight the most recent ubuntu install and then press "e", and i will get more options?
[22:39] <maplesoft> zykotick9 Dr_Willis oh
[22:39] <maplesoft> zykotick9 Dr_Willis so /usr/bin and /home/username/bin is the same. functionally?
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> maplesoft:  they are dirs that contain executables that are in the default path.
[22:40] <BIGBOOMBA> and then when i select the option that will drop me into a shell i should...uninstall and reinstall lightdm?
[22:40] <maplesoft> Dr_Willis ok. thanks
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> You can add any dir to the path yu want..
[22:40] <zykotick9> maplesoft: "functionally" yes - but one is a system directory you shouldn't use (/usr/bin) and one you can do whatever to (~/bin)
[22:40] <maplesoft> zykotick9 thanks
[22:40] <BIGBOOMBA> or that's when i navigate to the grub config file and add the nomodeset option?
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> and i was about to poste...  http://delicious.com/search?p=bash+tutorials   for maplesoft   ;)
[22:44] <astropirate> I am working on a screen capture software. I am thinking of selling it. It is only for Linux/BSD systems. Anyone know if linux users buy software?
[22:45] <dudewhat> no
[22:45] <zykotick9> !ot | astropirate
[22:46] <astropirate> zykotick9, i will put it in ubuntu software center
[22:46] <dudewhat> how is it different from recordmydesktop?
[22:46] <astropirate> it works
[22:46] <astropirate> :)
[22:46] <astropirate> recordmydesktop doesn't work with gnome-shell
[22:47] <gr33n7007h> astropirate, what about xvidcap
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> you would be better off inprovbeing existing gpl software..
[22:47] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: +1
[22:48] <astropirate> Dr_Willis, sure I could and I do. But I also need to eat
[22:48] <astropirate> hahah
[22:48] <astropirate> and for that I need $$
[22:48] <rypervenche> astropirate: We can use ffmpeg to screencast just fine. Don't need to pay for something that's already free.
[22:48] <BIGBOOMBA> once i get into a shell, where is the nomodeset setting? what file?
[22:48] <samholmes> Anyone know of any tutorials on how to get a lightweight ubuntu server installation in VirtualBox (or possibly faster VM) on windows?
[22:49] <astropirate> rypervenche, right. but not every linux user is a l33t command line jokie like us
[22:49] <astropirate> i'm just trying to fill a need
[22:49] <BIGBOOMBA> the thread talks about changing kernel settings but if i understand linux correctly all settings are in some text file somewhere
[22:50] <dudewhat> samholmes just install the server and remove anything you don't want
[22:50] <zykotick9> samholmes: an "on windows" is NOT an ubuntu support question...
[22:50] <zykotick9> samholmes: try ##windows
[22:51] <usr13>  BIGBOOMBA Not so, many of our kernel modules are loaded into the running kernel as needed.
[22:51] <samholmes> zykotick9: It's related, I'm looking to install ubuntu. I think that's an ubuntu question don't you?
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> samholmes:  you just install ubuntu server in vbox.. same as you would a real machine..
[22:51] <IntuitiveNipple> BIGBOOMBA: The "nomodeset" argument is passed to the Linux kernel by the bootloader (GRUB) so you'd probably want to edit GRUB's configuration if you want to change that option permanently. If you want to change it for just one boot, you can do that from GRUB's menu when the PC starts
[22:51] <zykotick9> samholmes: i don't...
[22:51] <BIGBOOMBA> yes, thanks, i read further and i think i understand what i need to do now
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> samholmes: install virtualbox then install ubuntu to the virtualbox
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> samholmes: something like Lubuntu willmake it more responsive
[22:52] <samholmes> What's Lubuntu?
[22:52] <PyjamaSpank> how do I slide only windows when I change workspace, and not the icons/docky/wallpaper?
[22:52] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: technically, server (without gui) is more responsive then lubuntu ;)
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> samholmes: why not find out
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: sounds like they are new to the OS, a GUI will make things easier :D
[22:53] <samholmes> ActionParsnip: My bad, typo in google search.
[22:53] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: agreed
[22:53] <IntuitiveNipple> samholmes: Would this help? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Virtualbox_in_Windows
[22:53] <usr13> !lubuntu | samholmes
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> PyjamaSpank:  docky may have settings to be 'sticky' where it stays on all desktops.
[22:55] <litropy> Hey guys, I'm trying to write a script. I need to know what network-manager is doing when I click the wifi icon, and click the network that I'm already connected to. Doing so tells network-manager to disconnect then reconnect to the smae network.
[22:55]  * Dr_Willis installs docky to look.. and notices docky uses mono..
[22:55] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: you gotta watch for that mono-contamination ;)
[22:56] <VeraMono> yuck
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> zykotick9:  yep. :)
[22:56] <PyjamaSpank> Dr_Willis, has this been disabled or broken when the move to Unity happened? I skipped a few upgrades.
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> PyjamaSpank:  no idea. been using Unity for ages now.
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> PyjamaSpank:  so im not even sure what sort of 'effect' you are trying to achieve
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> since i use the workspace-switcher icon here to move around desktops. :) the wallpaper or icons 'slideing' dosent happen at all.. it zooms in/out ;)
[22:58] <PyjamaSpank> Dr_Willis, when you switch workspaces, everything scrolls, but I had it set so only windows scrolled, and not the wallpaper, icons nor docky
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> PyjamaSpank:  you have 4 diffent desktops.. so of course the icons are only on the desktops you set them to be on.,
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> wallpaper does not scroll here.. it stays the same.
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> docky dosent move here either.. it stays at the bottom.
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> I will say im currently in 12.10 however. ;)
[23:00] <danielboston26> im trying to use ubuntu on my macbook pro retina
[23:00]  * timy 
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> actually i just made a new folder.. and that icon dosent scroll either when i go to other desktops..  just the windows change. Not docky or icons
[23:00] <danielboston26> i read in the forums that ubuntu has a apple version now?
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> anyone want to double check this in 12.04?
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> danielboston26:  not that ive ever heard of..  normal ubutnu should work on an intel based mac. there is the PPC version also.
[23:01] <danielboston26> hmm
[23:01] <danielboston26> i guess maybe it was saying alpha 3 has more support for it?
[23:01] <danielboston26> tried installing debian and it would fail because this computer doesn't have a ethernet card
[23:02] <danielboston26> and theres no driver for wireless
[23:02] <danielboston26> anyone have experince with this?
[23:02] <samholmes> IntuitiveNipple: Where do I find the server version of ubuntu?
[23:03] <IntuitiveNipple> samholmes: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[23:03] <Guest1920> /
[23:03] <danielboston26> hmm it looks like there is a 64bit mac version
[23:03] <PyjamaSpank>  dr_willis, got it, CCSM/viewport switching/non sliding windows - "type=Dock | type=Desktop | state=Sticky"
[23:03] <danielboston26> Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead. This image is adjusted to work properly on Mac systems.
[23:03] <PyjamaSpank> dr_willis, thanks for your help
[23:04]  * VeraMono suggests the mimimal cd install if you have the bandwidth
[23:04] <danielboston26> you talking to me vera?
[23:04] <zykotick9> !mini
[23:04] <VeraMono> yes
[23:04] <danielboston26> why do i need the minimal?
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> PyjamaSpank:  must be the default in 12.10 ;)
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> danielboston26:  you want total control? or what are you wanting exactly?
[23:05] <VeraMono> cause you can install any destop or server with it
[23:05] <VeraMono> that whole 'tasksel' thing :)
[23:06] <PRabyte> i set up my hd such that i have to type a passphrase to access it at boot. how can i remove that passwrd, and just boot up normal. i did this at install, it works fine, just tired of having reboots where i need to be at terminal to type passwd in. help?
[23:06] <PyjamaSpank> dr_willis, I didn't upgrade when they introduced unity, then when I did do the many upgrades, it broke, again, thanks for your help
[23:07] <danielboston26> anyone here with a retina macbook pro tried it yet?
[23:07] <VeraMono> i think that the whole mimimal disk installs all new packages at in stall time
[23:07] <zykotick9> PRabyte: backup your data, and re-install without encryption "might" be the easiest method
[23:08] <zykotick9> VeraMono: it does...
[23:08] <PRabyte> im trying to zykotick9 but... it wont let flash boot up
[23:08] <danielboston26> Dr_Willis just wondering how it runs
[23:08] <PRabyte> its doing what it is supposed too lol
[23:08] <PRabyte> how to turn off encrypted disk at boot?
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> danielboston26:  id never buy a mac to run linux. :) not cost effective..
[23:08] <danielboston26> well i bought a mac to run os x
[23:08] <lsoccer169> so I have tried installing Ubuntu on my Alienware M17x a couple times and it is not taking any ideas
[23:08] <VeraMono> and its small enough to "boot from keyboard buffer" hehe
[23:08] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: +1 (beyond "cost effective", why support Apple?)
[23:09] <danielboston26> but it would be nice to have linux too
[23:09] <BIGBOOMBA> so i went into grub and added the "nomodeset" option after the quiet boot option, but unfortunately that didn't work
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> zykotick9:  because they are such a GPL/Open Sourced Friendly Company that cares about the little guys...  ...... I said that with a straight face!
[23:09] <danielboston26> Isoccer169 what excatly is the problem?
[23:09] <BIGBOOMBA> when i then tried booting ubuntu recovery mode i got a black screen with some messages, ending with "init: plymouth main process (244) killed by ABRT signal"
[23:09] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: oh man, if this wasn't YOU i'd add you to /ignore right now ;)
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[23:10] <PRabyte> zykotick9: so you dont know, ok, anyone else?
[23:10] <lsoccer169> well I grabbed the most recent version of Ubuntu from the Ubuntu site I go through select the external USB drive that I want to install it on and the installation goes through but then I get a text screen and get a grub prompt
[23:11] <PRabyte> zykotick9: you are like, yah my mouse doesnt work, reinstall your os lolol what a joke
[23:11] <danielboston26> Isoccer169 did you install the gui version?
[23:11] <lsoccer169> yuppers that is why I am so irked
[23:11] <PRabyte> hey i cant access this file,,, zykotick9 suggests, reinstall your os... get off here dude
[23:12] <lsoccer169> I figured I should be able to do this I have dual mac and windows systems I created a hackintosh and now I am unable to get Ubuntu to work I do not get it
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> lsoccer169:  whats the text screen say exactly?
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> lsoccer169:  and how exactly did  you install to the external usb?
[23:13] <lsoccer169> let me get back to you because out of my own frustration I did not write it down
[23:14] <zutme> I know I'm probably doing something stupid here, but I can't figure out how to install ubuntu to sdb. All the installer shows is sda. gparted can see sdb
[23:14] <zutme> Any ideas?
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> I can think of like 3 differnt 'text' screens you could be talking about. ;)
[23:14] <danielboston26> Isoccer169 also did you have windows already installed on this computer?
[23:14] <danielboston26> oh your installed to external drive?
[23:14] <lsoccer169> the one I am getting starts with authenticate and tab for more commands
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> zutme:  use the 'somthign else/custome' option and make your partitions on sdb as you want. ie:   sdb1 = /  sdb2 = /home/ sdb3 = swap.
[23:14] <lsoccer169> yah this system is running windows 7 ultimate
[23:15] <lsoccer169> and then there is a grub prompt
[23:15] <zutme> Dr_Willis, Yeah when I choose "something else" I'm not seeing sdb in there either. I'm not sure why
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> zutme:  You can partion the HD with gparted from the live cd, then start the installer.. perhaps.
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> zutme:  thats how i tend to do it.
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> The installers partion manager tool is a bit. annoying.
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> I also noticed the installer did not have a 'Install to a specific drive using the whold drive' option..
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> sort of annoying it will automate other things.. but not a fairly common case of a Seperate HD Just for linux.
[23:17] <zutme> Dr_Willis, yeah that's really all I want to do
[23:17] <VeraMono> Does anyone know if RIP linux has an irc client
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> VeraMono:  most every Linux disrto has some irc clients.
[23:17] <VeraMono> i used that to fix my 12.04
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> If not installed by default  use its package manager tools to install one.
[23:18] <litropy> Hey guys, I'm trying to write a script. I need to know what network-manager is doing when I click the wifi icon, and click the network that I'm already connected to. Doing so tells network-manager to disconnect then reconnect to the smae network.
[23:18] <danielboston26> Isoccer169 have you tried wubi?
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[23:18] <VeraMono> later Dr_Willis
[23:18] <lsoccer169> I have not
[23:19] <danielboston26> Iscoccer169 just use wubi
[23:19] <danielboston26> much easier
[23:19] <danielboston26> that will install on your main hard drive in your pc
[23:20] <jtran> anyone knows why my stock oneiric exports env var 'USERNAME'?  I mean what is that used for?  I know of $USER but not $USERNAME .  My precise install doesn't export USERNAME
[23:21] <Luig1> So, I've been researching hybrid graphics
[23:21] <Luig1> Since that's pretty much the only option right now for the notebooks available to me
[23:22] <Luig1> Does anyone know if hybrid graphics is more likely to "just work" with AMD + Radeon or with Intel + GeForce?
[23:22] <trism> jtran: looks like it used to be exported by lightdm, but the line had the comment "// FIXME: Is this required?" so I guess it isn't surprising it is gone
[23:22] <jtran> trism, thanks!  How the heck did you figure that out?
[23:22] <Luig1> Apparently power management works out of the box with the AMD driver but apparently bumblebee is also doing fairly well
[23:22] <Luig1> So I have no idea how to proceed
[23:23] <trism> jtran: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+bug/864109/comments/3
[23:23] <lsoccer169> thank you danielboston I will be back in a bit going to try that now
[23:23] <jtran> trism, nice thanks!
[23:25] <kurus> hi
[23:26] <David23400> is a partition type that can be used for linux and be able seen on windows too?
[23:28] <js___> .
[23:28] <danielboston26> need help kurus
[23:28] <usr13> David23400: no
[23:29] <danielboston26> david23400 no linux uses ext
[23:29] <danielboston26> windows uses ntfs
[23:29] <usr13> David23400: Windows uses ntfs or fat
[23:29] <danielboston26> david23400 i think some old distros will use fat
[23:29] <Daekdroom> Windows doesn't use FAT by default anymore.
[23:29] <David23400> :( ok ty
[23:29] <Daekdroom> (and nobody should use it, really)
[23:30] <danielboston26> david23400 if you want to get ntfs support in linux get ntfs 3g
[23:30] <Daekdroom> Ubuntu ships NTFS-3g by default.
[23:30] <usr13> David23400: That's true, but they can read from fat, but not ext
[23:31] <danielboston26> isn't ntfs-3g commerical now?
[23:31] <usr13> David23400: There is software that enables MS Windows to read from ext but can not run on it.
[23:32] <PRabyte> how can i remove luks passphrase at set up. i dont want to use feature anymore?
[23:32] <PRabyte> opps start up
[23:32] <js___> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop, and I notice I get poor battery life. Does anyone know of a utility I can install to get more power management configuration options?
[23:32] <dudewhat> get a better battery
[23:32] <xangua> !details | js___
[23:33] <dudewhat> or reduce your screen brightness
[23:33] <js___> ive done that.. no dice.. I had windows 7 on here before this, and the battery life was better.. decent..
[23:33] <usr13> js___: and use hybernate and/or sleep etc
[23:33] <danielboston26> js___ there isn't any program that will magically inmprove your battery
[23:34] <usr13> js___: Win7 sleeps alot
[23:34] <akem> things like: echo 5 > /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode
[23:34] <akem> echo min_power > /sys/class/scsi_host/host0/link_power_management_policy
[23:34] <js___> danielboston26: I realize that.. what I am asking for is a program to help me manage the power better.. not magically generate power
[23:34] <akem> not sure if there is a GUI tool for that
[23:35] <js___> similar in windows.. you can put it into a power saving mode.. and it reduces the power to the cpu, disk, ect
[23:35] <akem> right.
[23:35] <js___> akem: ill check it out thx
[23:35] <linuxuz3r> does anyone know any other site similar to source forge
[23:35] <usr13> js___: adjust your settings.
[23:36] <Miguelito> I just added a second usb printer but not sure what the uri should read - can anyone help with usb printers?
[23:36] <danielboston26> what you looking for linuxuz3r?
[23:37] <usr13> Miguelito: firefox localhost:631
[23:37] <linuxuz3r> well something like sourceforge
[23:37] <danielboston26> no i mean are you looking for a spefic program?
[23:37] <litropy> Hey guys, I'm trying to write a script. I need to know what network-manager is doing when I click the wifi icon, and click the network that I'm already connected to. Doing so tells network-manager to disconnect then reconnect to the same network.
[23:37] <danielboston26> im not sure if there is anything better then sourceforge
[23:38] <usr13> litropy: What is your queston?
[23:38] <linuxuz3r> danielboston26, no particular program, anything that interest me then contribute to the source
[23:38] <linuxuz3r> i wanna learn how to read code
[23:38] <friendofpugs> i installed ubuntu on my asus u46 laptop using wubi, now my grub boot loader doesn't load ubuntu
[23:38] <mz|`> litropy: see ifconfig, iw, dhclient, ifup
[23:38] <danielboston26> linuxuz3r there is one that escapes me at the moment
[23:39] <danielboston26> most people use sourceforge
[23:39] <linuxuz3r> danielboston26, what do you mean
[23:39] <mz|`> github ?
[23:39] <linuxuz3r> ok
[23:39] <danielboston26> there is one but i can't think of the name
[23:39] <danielboston26> no not github
[23:39] <friendofpugs> when i select ubuntu, it defaults to black screen and a cursor, and that's it
[23:40] <mz|`> you miss some programs and configs friendofpugs
[23:40] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset| friendofpugs
[23:40] <Luig1> David23400, you can keep your stuff on a FAT partition
[23:40] <Luig1> You can't boot from it but both OSes can mount and access it
[23:40] <David23400> hmm right
[23:41] <Luig1> And it has various limitations
[23:41] <Luig1> File size, etc
[23:41] <friendofpugs> thanks, i'll look into nomodeset
[23:41] <Luig1> That you won't have to deal with in ext or NTFS
[23:41] <friendofpugs> hopefully i won't be back tonight, lol
[23:41] <i7c> i'm on xfce but when i click links in the terminal it always seems to open the _gnome_ or _unity_ default browser. (i set chrome in the xfce preferred applications but it still opens firefox...) how to change that?
[23:41] <usr13> David23400: Ubuntu by default, reads and wrights to many file system types, (not so with MS Windows). so...
[23:41] <David23400> luig1 thanks
[23:41] <Luig1> No problem David23400
[23:41] <usr13> *writes*
[23:42] <danielboston26> linuxuz3r launchpad is the one i was trying to remember
[23:42] <Luig1> That's the idea, usr13, FAT is basically all I can think of that Windows will recognize on its own
[23:42] <danielboston26> its done by canonnical
[23:42] <danielboston26> the ubuntu source itself is there
[23:42] <kandinski> hey guys. I am at the university where I am staff, trying to connect to a printer over smb, and getting foiled because my Active Directory password isn't recognised. I am using 12.04, and I know it's a long shot, but googling hasn't helped me. Any idea on how to diagnose it?
[23:43] <usr13> David23400: Most of us that want to use a partition that will be accessable to MS Windows as well as Ubuntu will format with FAT32
[23:43] <usr13> David23400: But from a running Ubuntu system, we use samba
[23:44] <danielboston26> kandiniski networking is a blackart
[23:44] <danielboston26> especially printer networking
[23:44] <usr13> !samba | David23400
[23:44] <Miguelito> usr13, firefox?
[23:44] <usr13> Miguelito: yes
[23:44] <danielboston26> tryi spining around in your chair 3 times and howl at the moon
[23:44] <usr13> Miguelito: firefox localhost:631
[23:44] <usr13> Miguelito: firefox http://localhost:631
[23:45] <sudonano> Hi,  I have a doubt. I'm installing lamp and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP says: "To only install PHP5. use any method to install the package libapache2-mod-php5". Now, I see several tutorials out there that say: "sudo apt-get install php5" and then "sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5". Wich is the difference? Do I really need php5 package or not?
[23:45] <usr13> Miguelito: cups has a web based interface
[23:45] <Miguelito> usr13, i was setting it up under the printer configuration
[23:45] <Miguelito> ahhh
[23:46] <danielboston26> sudonarno for lamp yes
[23:46] <sudonano> danielboston26 yes to what?
[23:46] <danielboston26> lamp is linux apache mysql and php
[23:46] <danielboston26> so yes you need php
[23:47] <danielboston26> otherwise you have lim
[23:47] <danielboston26> lol
[23:47] <sudonano> danielboston26 help.ubuntu say only libapache....etc etc
[23:47] <CerebralVortex> anyone here tried thed 12.6 ATI drivers?
[23:47] <sudonano> danielboston26 help.ubuntu say only libapache-mod-php5
[23:47] <danielboston26> lib is a library file
[23:48] <Miguelito> usr13, thanks!
[23:48] <usr13> NP
[23:48] <sudonano> danielboston26 so why help.ubuntu say that for php5 intallation?
[23:49] <danielboston26> php5 must need that
[23:50] <sudonano> danielboston26 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP ....then search "installing php 5" section...
[23:50] <danielboston26> whats your point?
[23:51] <sudonano> danielboston26 my point is no mention for sudo apt-get  install php5
[23:51] <lsoccer169> so I am still getting the same thing the message states bash like line editing support tab for more possible commands and then a grub prompt sorry this was after using WUBI
[23:51] <lsoccer169> by the way I am back and hello
[23:51] <sudonano> danielboston26 only mention for sudo apt-get  install libapache2-mod-php5
[23:52] <caixa> anyone know how to adjust nvidia powermizer levels
[23:52] <danielboston26> !soccer169 are you installing wubi in windows?
[23:52] <danielboston26> opps
[23:52] <yoophglup> is there a way to set LDX the default desktop for one user, and other users use gnome as their default using GDM as the login manager?
[23:52] <caixa> ubottu, why you hatin bro
[23:52] <danielboston26> Isoccer169 are you installing wubi windows?
[23:52] <lsoccer169> yes
[23:52] <danielboston26> does it complete?
[23:52] <lsoccer169> yes it does
[23:52] <danielboston26> hmmm
[23:53] <danielboston26> idk dude
[23:53] <usr13> lsoccer169: Did you have a Ubuntu install before this?
[23:53] <lsoccer169> interesting thing is I get a reboot and I can select windwos or Ubuntu but when I select Ubuntu and that is when I get that message
[23:53] <lsoccer169> nope
[23:54] <lsoccer169> I uninstalled it because I could never get it to run
[23:54] <usr13> lsoccer169: wubi boots from a running MS Windows system.  I don't know much about wubi but highly recommend a regular Ubuntu install.
[23:55] <usr13> lsoccer169: Why couldn't you get it to run?  What type of difficulty did you encounter?
[23:56] <lsoccer169> well I got a few more tricks I may try I am gonna log and come back tomorrow and see if anything is succesfull
[23:56] <danielboston26> i like wubi
[23:56] <danielboston26> iits easy to install
[23:56] <danielboston26> usually
[23:56] <PRabyte> no suggestions?
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> and easy to break...
[23:56] <PRabyte> links?
[23:56] <danielboston26> ive never had issues with it
[23:56] <lsoccer169> I just kept getting to that screen that states bash like line editing support tab for more sommands
[23:56] <ZzBomb> anyone have any tool suggestions for testing wireless connections besides iwspy which is no longer supported by my kernel version?
[23:57] <danielboston26> PRabyte plrase restate your question
[23:57] <TJ-> lsoccer169: What does typing "ls" at the GRUB prompt report?
[23:57] <i7c> i'm on xfce but when i click links in the terminal it always seems to open the _gnome_ or _unity_ default browser. (i set chrome in the xfce preferred applications but it still opens firefox...) how to change that?
[23:57] <danielboston26> pleaes*
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> you are in a very small minority.. but this is a 'support' channel. so we see all the problem users. :) not the ones with no problems
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> lsoccer169:  if hats the grub prompt. then grub dident install properly
[23:57] <PRabyte> how can i remove luks passphrase at boot. i dont want to use feature anymore...
[23:57] <danielboston26> PRabyte sorry i have no idea what that is
[23:57] <sudonano> Thanks for help, good night. :)
[23:58] <danielboston26> did you try googleing?
[23:59] <ZzBomb> PRabyte: you may need to create a new volume