[00:38] <onetwo> pls guys i need some help, anyone here knows Kubuntu?
[00:39] <onetwo> hey you know linux at all?
[00:40] <guest19fO1G> how to register this channel
[00:40] <guest19fO1G> ???
[00:42] <onetwo> guys anyone here plays league of legends on kubuntu>? or can anyone help me install it?
[00:45] <sfears> onetwo: try this http://eune.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=339088
[00:47] <onetwo> anyone here playes league of legends lol?
[00:57] <muamer> any girl here for chat
[01:19] <Volksgrenadier> daskreech: Yeah it failed 4 hash checks
[01:21] <Daskreech> onetwo: Hi
[01:21] <Daskreech> What' do you need help with?
[01:21] <Daskreech> Volksgrenadier: Torrents are not supposed to fail hash checks unless someone is poisoning it
[01:21] <Volksgrenadier> thats odd
[01:22] <Daskreech> onetwo: if you want help with league of legends you can ask in #winehq
[01:22] <Daskreech> Though it's a little late now
[01:22] <Volksgrenadier> because when I check the md5sum
[01:22] <Volksgrenadier> with the hashcalc
[01:22] <Volksgrenadier> it gives this
[01:22] <Volksgrenadier> 05a7fe7ddac85d91b01300d49bd8edad
[01:23] <Volksgrenadier> which does not match any of the provided md5 hash numbers
[01:23] <Daskreech> hashcalc?
[01:23] <Daskreech> Why don't you jsut run md5sum on it?
[01:24] <Daskreech> onetwo: have you tried installing it under Wine?
[01:25] <Volksgrenadier> because I confirm its corrupted because I check to see if its corrupted in the installer when I reboot
[01:25] <Volksgrenadier> and I select "Check for defects"
[01:25] <Daskreech> Volksgrenadier: ok well delete the file and re grab the torrent
[01:25] <Daskreech>  thats not supposed to happen though
[01:26] <Volksgrenadier> I got the torrent from the offical website
[01:26] <Volksgrenadier> I downloaded it twice
[01:27] <Daskreech> Volksgrenadier: and it's corrupt?
[01:27] <Daskreech> that's not right at all
[01:27] <Volksgrenadier> yeah according to the hashs checks
[01:27] <Volksgrenadier> I'll go and reboot and see if its corrupt
[01:28] <Daskreech> Volksgrenadier: go to http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu and grab it from there
[01:29] <Volksgrenadier> 10.04
[01:29] <Volksgrenadier> ?
[01:29] <Daskreech> Volksgrenadier: No 12.04 if that's what you want
[01:30] <Volksgrenadier> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/12.04/release/
[01:30] <Volksgrenadier> ah
[01:30] <Volksgrenadier> I believe I found it
[01:30] <Daskreech> onetwo: Cool :)
[01:30] <Daskreech> Volksgrenadier: Cool
[01:30] <Daskreech> onetwo: did you try with Wine /
[01:30] <Daskreech> ?
[01:31] <onetwo> im trying right now wit 1.4 wine
[01:31] <onetwo> ill let ya kno if it worked
[01:31] <Daskreech> Ok thanks
[01:32] <Volksgrenadier> I'll just try both the CD and the DVD
[01:32] <Volksgrenadier> thanks in advance for your help
[01:33] <Daskreech> onetwo: and the channel #winehq is a big help for stuff like that
[01:33] <Daskreech> Volksgrenadier: ok
[01:33] <onetwo> ohh thx breh
[01:43] <AllCount> 我靠 难道不让发言？
[01:43] <szal> !cn | AllCount
[01:44] <AllCount> 这里全是中国人吗？
[01:45] <szal> m(
[01:45] <AllCount> are you chinese?
[01:46] <szal> no (more or less obviously)
[01:46] <AllCount> yeal....my English is bad....
[01:46] <AllCount> -  -
[01:46] <OerHeks> so far not bad.
[01:48] <AllCount> I start use Ubuntu  one month ago...and i really don't know how to use it...
[02:00] <onetwo> can someone help me run league of legends of this Kubuntu 12.04 pls
[02:04] <onetwo> why i cant enable desktop effects in 12.04 im trying to change or add an efect and it says the following effects could not be enabled wtf?
[02:05] <AllCount> I am playing lol!!!
[02:06] <szal> onetwo: what gfx card/driver?
[02:06] <AllCount> lol only can play on windows
[02:07] <amason> onetwo: think you will find it's a limitation with your graphics driver
[02:07] <Volksgrenadier> another failed hash check :/
[02:07] <Volksgrenadier> eee155c20b69b942ebea065f402a16f6
[02:09] <Volksgrenadier> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/12.04/release/MD5SUMS
[02:09] <Volksgrenadier> I'm using these hash checks
[02:09] <onetwo_> aight, my driver was updated from the system here in Kubuntu
[02:09] <onetwo_> can someone help me pls pls pls run league of legends on this Kubuntu 12.04 pls
[02:12] <AllCount> how much is your rank stores?
[02:13] <onetwo> my rank?
[02:13] <AllCount> yeal
[02:14] <onetwo> dude help me pls run league of legends on this Kubuntu and i promise ill delete windows 7 todey and just chill in linux all my life
[02:14] <AllCount> you can use wine
[02:15] <AllCount> the windows Simulator on ubuntu
[02:16] <AllCount> are you hear?
[02:19] <OerHeks> league of legends should be 'gold' in wineHQ database > http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141
[02:22] <AllCount> if i have wine on my computer,i can play lol?
[02:24] <onetwo__> can someone help me how to play league of legends, its a game, in Kubuntu 12.04 i have wine
[02:25] <AllCount> ....i don't know but i and my friends really like playing it
[02:26] <onetwo__> lol
[02:27] <onetwo__> on what system you play it?
[02:27] <AllCount> windows
[02:27] <onetwo__> well wtf you doing here then? this is kubuntu chat
[02:28] <AllCount> c++
[02:28] <AllCount> Are you American?
[02:30] <onetwo__> nope
[02:31] <onetwo__> it tells me my configuration could be broken when it try to install app from the store like Play on Linux or other apps wtf?
[02:31] <onetwo__> pls someone help me
[02:33] <OerHeks> Join #winehq for application help :-)
[02:35] <OerHeks> the url i gave you, has installation instructions and issues (what will work and not)
[02:48] <AllCount> now lol is popular in chinese
[02:48] <AllCount> in china
[02:49] <amason> onetwo__ we are all volunteers in here, please be patient as many of us are at work or doing other things at the same time.
[02:50] <amason> onetwo__ we are all volunteers in here, please be patient as many of us are at work or doing other things at the same time.
[02:51] <amason> onetwo__ it's also hard to help you with when many of us will probably not have the game you have
[02:51] <amason> many of us don't use proprietary software either so you may find there is more help in the forums or on a mailing list
[02:53] <onetwo_> yes but this is for kubuntu, i run kubuntu
[03:08] <onetwo> how do i remove an app from Kubuntu 12.04
[03:08] <onetwo> ?
[03:20] <AllCount> i don't know ,kubutu is so colorful
[04:02] <c2tarun> can anyone please tell me how to bring menubar of choqok back?
[04:23] <Guest84917> c2tarun, alt-m or right click on toolbar?
[04:24] <c2tarun> Guest84917: actually I am getting only 4 options in more drop down
[04:25] <c2tarun> I should get a checkbox for hide menubar there :( but I am not getting that
[04:25] <Guest84917> c2tarun, sorry, i'm running from an emergency ubuntu livecd now, why don't you try luck at #kde?
[04:26] <c2tarun> Guest84917: thanks :)
[04:26] <Guest84917> np
[04:26] <Guest84917> c2tarun, #kde could be very quit at times, another choice is try luck at #opensuse since KDE is their default desktop environment...
[04:27] <c2tarun> ok
[04:32] <noaXess> morning
[04:32] <noaXess> on kde 4.9 with precise.. really happy :)
[04:33] <noaXess> hey.. i have a nvidia grafic and use daily an external hdmi display.. to enable i need to manually do that over nvidia-settings... is there any way to autodetect external display and enable it how i need?
[05:04] <root______> ?
[05:08] <alexey_knyshev> Hi, can anyone help me with dpkg-buildpackage?
[05:10] <Graf_Westerholt> !ask | alexey_knyshev
[05:13] <alexey_knyshev> I have problem with dpkg-buildpackage. I'm trying to make deb package from source which uses cmake to generate unix makefiles
[05:13] <alexey_knyshev> by I have this error on install step: CMake Error at cmake_install.cmake:49 (FILE):
[05:13] <alexey_knyshev>   file cannot create directory: /usr/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu.  Maybe need
[05:13] <alexey_knyshev>   administrative privileges.
[05:14] <jdrs> sudo
[05:14] <jdrs> you might need administrative privilege to write to that directory
[05:15] <alexey_knyshev> so /usr/usr/ is not valid
[05:15] <alexey_knyshev> at all I run it in fakeroot with -r (root privitegies)
[05:56] <kio_http> Are KDE and QT libraries complete for python 3?
[06:35] <DFrostedWang> How can I use debootstrap to make a chroot sandbox to run apps in?
[06:44] <ICWiener> How can I use debootstrap to make a chroot sandbox to run apps in?
[07:43] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[08:07] <skramer_> I still have problems with plasma-desktop crashing. Sometimes just after start-up, sometimes after resume and even while I just normally work it segfaults. When it comes up again, I find the system bar seem to have  more items, all of them with no icon an not clickable (http://wstaw.org/m/2012/08/07/Screen.png)
[08:08] <skramer_> Did anybody else face such problem yet & may tell me how to fix / work around it?
[08:11] <skramer_> Forgot to say that I´m running KDE SC 4.9 on Kubuntu 12.04, but actually I first found the problem after the upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04...
[10:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:42] <DFrostedWang> BluesKaj: Hi
[10:42] <BluesKaj> hi DFrostedWang
[10:43] <DFrostedWang> Sup?
[10:44] <DFrostedWang> I was just watching Robot Chicken. AVP: Predator's blood is acid, so it gets shot and melts though the floor to the one below, then the one below, then the one below..... :D
[10:44] <BluesKaj> I'm up early :)
[10:45] <DFrostedWang> Not very practical
[10:45] <DFrostedWang> I'm up early, too. What time is it where you are?
[10:45] <DFrostedWang> 5:45AM here
[10:46] <BluesKaj> 6:45AM
[10:46] <DFrostedWang> About time for me to get back to sleep
[10:46] <DFrostedWang> Unless I have my coffee.
[10:47] <BluesKaj> raining here , ...sleeo in type weather , but I couldn't
[10:47] <DFrostedWang> I wish it would rain here.
[10:47] <BluesKaj> sleep in that is
[10:47] <DFrostedWang> Where are you?
[10:48] <BluesKaj> Ontario, 15mi from the Lake Huron North shore ..how about you ?
[10:49] <DFrostedWang> Goodman, Missouri
[10:49] <DFrostedWang> Pretty far southwest
[10:50] <BluesKaj> midwest
[10:50] <BluesKaj> been to St Louis , along time ago
[10:56] <BluesKaj> hmm. my 12.10 install seems stable this morning ...had a total freeze yesterday , had to do a hrd reboot
[10:58] <DFrostedWang> I just learned chroot
[10:58] <DFrostedWang> :D
[10:58] <DFrostedWang> I have 12.04
[10:58] <DFrostedWang> Gonna upgrade when the next one comes out, tho.
[11:00] <BluesKaj> yeah , this is a test-drive HDD , my main HDD runs 12.04
[11:07] <DFrostedWang> BluesKaj: You test drive Ubuntu officially, or just for fun?
[11:11] <BluesKaj> DFrostedWang, well offiicially I suppose , the devs ask "testers" to try certain apps at various stages of development
[11:11] <GeertJohan> Hi, I have a displayport adapter that splits to 2 monitors. And a second monitor directly using DVI on the graphics card.. so I have 3 monitors, but X only recognises 2 {adapter(3840*1200), samsung(1920x1200)}. Using Xinerama. Now I want to configure KDE to split the dualscreen adapter into 2 virtual displays so that window placement/maximize/fullscreen works. It has already split the adapter and samsung nicely and I see 2 rows in the Sys
[11:12] <GeertJohan> I would be realy glad if I could set this up!
[11:19] <DFrostedWang> BluesKaj: Neat. I like to do beta/alpha/pre-alpha testing for ppl, but it'd be neat to get paid for it.
[11:20] <DFrostedWang> I test for Mozilla [Firefox (Aurora)]
[11:22] <BluesKaj> yeah, mostly I try stuff and report back ,  but i don't hear much feedback from them'
[11:23] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning
[11:23] <BluesKaj> from kubuntu devs
[11:23] <DFrostedWang> mydogsnameisrudy: Morning
[11:23] <mydogsnameisrudy> hey DFrostedWang
[11:23] <DFrostedWang> BluesKaj: Kubuntu? I thought it was Ubuntu.
[11:24] <BluesKaj> this is Kubuntu support ..uses the KDE desktop instead of Unity/Gnome
[11:25] <DFrostedWang> I know
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Hi mydogsnameisrudy
[11:25] <DFrostedWang> But wouldn't a tester use all different DEs?
[11:25] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning BluesKaj
[11:25] <Peace-> i use only kubuntu and so so only kde
[11:25] <Peace-> because it's, FOR ME , the best de
[11:26] <DFrostedWang> I like Unity
[11:26] <BluesKaj> DFrostedWang, no i agreed to kubuntu , I don';t run ubuntu
[11:26] <DFrostedWang> But I broke it
[11:26] <Peace-> i hate unity
[11:26] <Peace-> :)
[11:26] <DFrostedWang> It grows on you, tho.
[11:26] <Peace-> don't like purple
[11:26] <Peace-> i don't like orange
[11:26] <DFrostedWang> Me neither
[11:26] <DFrostedWang> I changed it
[11:26] <Peace-> kde is nice  by default
[11:27] <DFrostedWang> Maybe my customizations are what broke it.
[11:27] <DFrostedWang> Nothing is
[11:27] <DFrostedWang> I like to customize stuff
[11:27] <Peace-> anyway this is not a chat
[11:27] <Peace-> it's a support channel
[11:27] <DFrostedWang> Why not?
[11:27] <DFrostedWang> So?
[11:27] <Peace-> !rules
[11:27] <DFrostedWang> Nothing to support right now
[11:27] <Peace-> bye
[11:27] <DFrostedWang> That had nothing to do with "don't chat"
[11:27] <DFrostedWang> bye
[11:28] <mydogsnameisrudy> DFrostedWang:  join kubuntu-offtopic
[11:28] <BluesKaj> frankly the KDE desktop is more familiar for windows users , I was an old windows guy back to W 3.1
[11:29] <DFrostedWang> I was a Windows user, too.
[11:29] <DFrostedWang> But I realized there was so much more potential with Linux
[11:29] <DFrostedWang> Ubuntu is just my distro for this month or so
[11:29] <DFrostedWang> I have almost every popular distwro
[11:29] <DFrostedWang> distro*
[11:29] <DFrostedWang> In .iso form
[11:30] <DFrostedWang> Ubuntu/LinuxMint/Zorin-OS are installed on my current computer right now.
[11:31] <GeertJohan> anyone any idea about my question ?
[11:31] <DFrostedWang> No, sorry
[11:31] <DFrostedWang> Don't have a clue how o help you
[11:38] <BluesKaj> GeertJohan, that's beyond my scope , considering i just use our plasma tv as a monitor ...nothing real complicated here
[11:39] <GeertJohan> hmm too bad :/ thanks anyway. I'm posting this question on askubuntu now
[11:43] <BluesKaj> GeertJohan, good idea :)
[11:50] <GeertJohan> BluesKaj: done: http://askubuntu.com/questions/172970/how-to-define-multiple-xorg-screens-using-the-same-device
[11:55] <BluesKaj> GeertJohan, nicely done ..hope you receive a quick answer
[12:51] <DFrostedWang> BluesKaj: Can you help?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> that's a problem with a lot of onboard audio
[12:51] <DFrostedWang> Yeah
[12:52] <DFrostedWang> My brand of computer has a lot of audio issues.
[12:52] <BluesKaj> do you have pavucontrol installed?
[12:52] <DFrostedWang> Because of it's audiocard
[12:52] <DFrostedWang> I do now, why?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> pavucontrol gives you more options for directing sound inputs and outputs , along with options for choosing different audio formats like dolby digital etc
[12:59] <DFrostedWang> Fatal Error: Unable to connect to PulseAudio: OK
[13:01] <BluesKaj> open a terminal , sudo aplay -l , paste the first line here
[13:03] <DFrostedWang> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[13:03] <DFrostedWang> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog]
[13:03] <DFrostedWang>   Subdevices: 1/1
[13:03] <DFrostedWang>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[13:03] <DFrostedWang> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC888 Digital [ALC888 Digital]
[13:03] <FloodBotK1> DFrostedWang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:03] <DFrostedWang>   Subdevices: 1/1
[13:04] <DFrostedWang> I didn't mean to flood
[13:07] <BluesKaj> ok , cat /proc/asound/modules , this should output just one line
[13:08] <DFrostedWang>  0 snd_hda_intel
[13:10] <BluesKaj> it looks like the right module/driver is loading when you use your audio system
[13:11] <BluesKaj> and what prompted the "Fatal Error: Unable to connect to PulseAudio" response ?
[13:12] <DFrostedWang> PulseAudio is disabled
[13:13] <BluesKaj> were you advised to disable it ?
[13:13] <DFrostedWang> Yes
[13:13] <DFrostedWang> It fixed the "no sound" issue
[13:13] <DFrostedWang> But gave me this new issue
[13:13] <DFrostedWang> I have been just livin' with it.
[13:15] <BluesKaj> then remove pavucontrol , it's useless without pulseaudio , unless you want to try it with pulseasudio then enable pulse again or install or whatever is required to restore it
[13:18] <DFrostedWang> I removed it
[13:18] <BluesKaj> some ppl will advise to remove pulse ,but in some cases pavucontrol helps solve the no sound issue
[13:19] <BluesKaj> then just install it again  ...we can always remove it if we van't resolve thye issue
[13:19] <DFrostedWang> Okay then
[13:19] <BluesKaj> keep pavucontrol
[13:20] <DFrostedWang> I am
[13:22] <marco__> Hi
[13:28] <DFrostedWang> So are you still helping me?
[13:28] <BluesKaj> I'm here , but you're on unity , correct ?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> or kde ?
[13:29] <DFrostedWang> KDE
[13:29] <DFrostedWang> Why?
[13:30] <DFrostedWang> I told you my Unity borked itself.
[13:31] <viktor> hello
[13:31] <viktor> i have a question
[13:31] <DFrostedWang> viktor: Hello
[13:31] <BluesKaj> ok then , open system settings>multimedia>phonon>device preferences , check what's listed
[13:31] <DFrostedWang> viktor: What is your question?
[13:31] <viktor> its disponible KDE 4.9 now?
[13:31] <DFrostedWang> viktor: I don't know.
[13:31] <viktor> i have KDE 4.8.4
[13:32] <BluesKaj> viktor, kde 4.0 is in the back ports
[13:32] <viktor> can i update to 4.9 version?
[13:32] <BluesKaj> err 4.9
[13:32] <viktor> in the back ports?
[13:32] <viktor> i dont know
[13:32] <viktor> :)
[13:33] <DFrostedWang> Built-In Analogue Stereo
[13:33] <BluesKaj> viktor, yes  sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports , then update/upgrade and dist-upgrade
[13:33] <viktor> ahh ok thanks!!
[13:33] <DFrostedWang> I have a speaker plugged in (not turned on), but didn't start my computer with it plugged in and on.
[13:35] <BluesKaj> DFrostedWang, click the test button
[13:36] <DFrostedWang> It works
[13:36] <DFrostedWang> My sound is AMAZING on this computer, BTW
[13:36]  * DFrostedWang is a total audiophile :D
[13:38] <BluesKaj> yes , my bandmate has a dell with one of those fancy built in soundsystems with subwoofer etc
[13:38] <DFrostedWang> Sounds great, doesn't it?
[13:39] <spawn57> is digikam stable on kde 4.9?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> now what about your headphone output , can you configure it with pavucontrol ?
[13:40] <DFrostedWang> PulseAudio is still off
[13:40] <DFrostedWang> I will turn it on, how do I do it?
[13:40] <DFrostedWang> I 4got how
[13:40] <steveire> Hi. When I plug in my external usb drive, it seems to not give me any permissions on the user level. root owns everything. I looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#Per-User_Mounts and ran '/usr/bin/udisks --mount /dev/sdb1' manually with the same result
[13:40] <steveire> apachelogger_: Ever seen something like that?
[13:41] <DFrostedWang> chown [user]:[user] /path/to/usb/drive
[13:41] <BluesKaj> run pulseaudio from the terminal
[13:41] <DFrostedWang> as root
[13:41] <BluesKaj> no
[13:42] <BluesKaj> is there any text output in the terminal after typing pulseaudio ?
[13:42] <DFrostedWang> E: [alsa-sink] alsa-sink.c: Error opening PCM device front:0: Device or resource busy
[13:43] <BluesKaj> DFrostedWang, ok reboot
[13:43] <DFrostedWang> ps aux | grep pulseaudio says it isn't running
[13:43] <DFrostedWang> E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[13:43] <DFrostedWang> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[13:43] <DFrostedWang> Running it again got me that
[13:44] <apachelogger_> steveire: nope
[13:44] <viktor> DFrostedwang : Exception in thread Thread-1:
[13:44] <viktor> Traceback (most recent call last):
[13:44] <viktor>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/threading.py", line 551, in __bootstrap_inner
[13:44] <viktor>     self.run()
[13:44] <viktor>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/softwareproperties/ppa.py", line 95, in run
[13:44] <FloodBotK1> viktor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:44] <viktor>     self.add_ppa_signing_key(self.ppa_path)
[13:44] <steveire> I think I've seen that in all versions of Kubuntu I've ever used.
[13:45] <DFrostedWang> Also, do I really need to reboot? I will have to disconnect from like 18 channels, close over 30 browser tabs, disconnect from my bot's server, close my chroot, etc, etc...
[13:45] <steveire> DFrostedWang: The chown doesn't solve the underlying problem.
[13:45] <DFrostedWang> steveire: Why not?
[13:45] <steveire> udisks shouldn't be mounting my external drive with only root access.
[13:45] <DFrostedWang> Well it won't if you chown it
[13:46] <DFrostedWang> Or, go to /media/ and change permissions on it.
[13:46] <BluesKaj> DFrostedWang, well that's the nature of piulseaudio it needs to be rebooted to run
[13:46] <DFrostedWang> Dammit
[13:46] <steveire> DFrostedWang: Changing perms on /media/ doesn't affect that at all.
[13:46] <DFrostedWang> Is there a way I can make Firefox remember the currently open tabs?
[13:47] <DFrostedWang> Don't change perms on /media/, change perms on /media/[yourdrive]
[13:47] <BluesKaj> DFrostedWang, or you can just remove it and pavucontrol and run alsamixer with the apropriate volume ctrls  to suit your needs
[13:47] <steveire> Yes, I know what you meant, but it doesn't solve the general problem.
[13:48] <DFrostedWang> Okay, maybe that is better
[13:48] <steveire> I'm not even convinced it will work. You don't seem to know what you're talking about :)
[13:48] <DFrostedWang> I only reboot every few days
[13:48] <DFrostedWang> Because I have no fan
[13:48] <steveire> Better would be an fstab entry for example, but that also doesn't solve the underlying problem
[13:48] <DFrostedWang> I know what I'm talking about
[13:48] <DFrostedWang> You have it always plugged into your computer?
[13:48] <DFrostedWang> If not, fstab isn't right.
[13:49] <BluesKaj> !who | steveire
[13:49] <DFrostedWang> !tab
[13:49] <DFrostedWang> neat
[13:49] <BluesKaj> yup
[13:49] <DFrostedWang> I knew that, but neat
[13:54] <BluesKaj> steveire, open system settings>removeable devices>"enable autmatic mounting ..." apply
[13:55] <steveire> BluesKaj: Thanks, but 'Enable automatic mounting of removable media' is already checked.
[13:55] <steveire> And it does auto-mount
[13:55] <DFrostedWang> Well, like I was saying, if your user owns it, it can access it.
[13:55] <DFrostedWang> Chown it
[13:55] <steveire> But not with permissions that make it read/write as non-root
[13:56] <BluesKaj> steveire, are you leaving the drive plugged in or conecting and disconnecting it when you want to use it?
[13:56] <steveire> BluesKaj: It is an external hard disk. I plug it in when I want to use it (I just got it)
[13:59] <steveire> BluesKaj: When it was fat32 formatted, there was no problem. I just reformatted it as ext
[13:59] <steveire> ext4
[14:03] <BluesKaj> steveire, leave it plugged in , and turned on
[14:04] <DFrostedWang> If you move from computer to computer, it will retain previous permissions anyway, right?
[14:04] <DFrostedWang> So he would need root on any other computer he accessed it with
[14:04] <DFrostedWang> To chown it
[14:05] <DFrostedWang> And, actually, Fat32 would be best for an external. Maybe just partition it w/ ext4 and Fat32.
[14:06] <BluesKaj> the proper permissions command is chmod +x /dev/sdx , afaik , changing ownership doesn't always work
[14:07] <DFrostedWang> Okay then
[14:07] <DFrostedWang> Nice to know
[14:07] <DFrostedWang> :D
[14:07] <BluesKaj> DFrostedWang, I use an ext4 external without any permissions troubles
[14:07] <DFrostedWang> I learned something
[14:07] <FloodBotK1> DFrostedWang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:07] <DFrostedWang> What???
[14:08] <BluesKaj> and if you want a file sytem that works for all pcs on a network,  NTFS works well
[14:09] <BluesKaj> for both linux and window
[14:09] <BluesKaj> s
[14:09] <DFrostedWang> Yeah, that, too.
[14:10] <steveire> BluesKaj: Hmm, you never had a problem like that?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> steveire, chmod +x /dev/sdx  sdx being the external device in sudo fdisk -l
[14:13] <steveire> BluesKaj: I've added it to fstab, created a directory for it (which is a problem - normal automounting doesn't require the directory to pre-exist. If it exists, my backup script could try to copy things into it without the disk even being mounted - silent loss of backups) chowned the directory and now I can write to it.
[14:13] <steveire> I'm curious about why you did not have to jump through such hoops.
[14:14] <DFrostedWang> How big is your external?
[14:16] <DFrostedWang> How much did you pay for it?
[14:16] <DFrostedWang> I need to get one.
[14:16] <BluesKaj> steveire, I didn't add the external to fstab since it's hotpluggable with esata to sata . usb should be the same
[14:17] <steveire> Yes. I find that curious.
[14:18] <BluesKaj> I considered it but I also use an older HDD IDE type for testing OSs , adding to fstab on 2 drives would just confuse the issue
[14:21] <steveire> Having to add it to fstab confuses me.
[14:28] <BluesKaj> DFrostedWang, WDC WD10EARS 1Tb external here ...it holds our multimedia files
[14:28] <DFrostedWang> How much you pay for it?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> about $90 , and I already had an esata/USB enclosure for it which cosy around 30 bucks
[14:30] <DFrostedWang> Dang...
[14:30] <DFrostedWang> Expensive
[14:30] <DFrostedWang> Here I can get a 1TB Toshiba for ~$79
[14:31] <DFrostedWang> With enclosure.
[14:31] <DFrostedWang> If I get one, I will put my whole computer on it.
[14:31] <DFrostedWang> So I can use it w/ my laptop, too.
[14:31] <BluesKaj> the WDs have never let me down
[14:31] <vince_> (much cheaper than in France, btw)
[14:34] <BluesKaj> price isn't the only consideration when i buy parts and accessories ,  I could have gone the elcheapo route but I buy what suits my needs
[14:37] <DFrostedWang> I need cheap
[14:37] <DFrostedWang> LOL
[14:39] <BluesKaj> cheap doesn't alway get you something new either ..a lot of that cheaply priced stuff is "refurbished" in fine print
[14:39] <DFrostedWang> So?
[14:40] <DFrostedWang> As long as the previous owner didn't use it like I plan on doing
[14:40]  * BluesKaj shrugs
[14:40] <DFrostedWang> Constant reformatting isn't gr8 for hard drives
[14:40] <DFrostedWang> Or flash drives
[15:07] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[15:07] <DFrostedWang> hello
[15:18] <phoenix_firebrd> hi
[15:18] <DFrostedWang> hi
[15:21] <jessie> Hi.
[15:22] <phoenix_firebrd> hi
[15:51] <Kvaks> Is there a way to open a small GUI message (like a pop-up dialog or a notification) from the CLI?
[15:51] <Pici> Kvaks: iirc, you can do that with zenity.
[15:52] <Kvaks> Checking it out, thanks.
[15:53] <Kvaks> Yep, that should do the job.
[16:03] <OerHeks> Kvaks, >> notify-send -i face-cool "Kvaks is cool."
[17:02] <phoenix_firebrd>          bbl
[17:11] <simplygades> Hello!
[17:11] <DFrostedWang> Hello!
[17:12] <simplygades> I would like to ask a couple of things about Quantal bug reporting, is this the place?
[17:12] <DFrostedWang> IDK
[17:12] <DFrostedWang> What is Quantal bug reporting?
[17:12] <simplygades> I mean the bug reporting of the next Kubuntu version
[17:12] <DFrostedWang> Maybe
[17:13] <DFrostedWang> I just idle here
[17:13] <simplygades> OK, thanks anyway
[17:22] <decci_> Hello Guys
[17:22] <Daskreech> simplygades: try in #ubuntu+1
[17:22] <Daskreech> Hi decci_
[17:22] <decci_> I need help setting up backuppc for Ubuntu and Windows
[17:22] <simplygades> Daskreech: you mean in the forums? Kubuntu or Ubuntu one?
[17:29] <BluesKaj> simplygades, report quantal in #ubuntu+1
[17:29] <simplygades> ah, ok
[17:29] <simplygades> thanks!
[17:31] <G__81> hi i am using kubuntu 12.04 64 bit. I tried to upgrade to kde 4.9 and my dolphin managers and other apps got screwed up and hence i removed the kde 4.9 by using purge. Now i want to give it an other try and hence added the backports repo back and i tried dist-upgrade but it does not show any updates @ all
[17:31] <G__81> am i missing something here?
[17:32] <Sentynel> G__81: did you do apt-get update after adding the backports repo again?
[17:32] <G__81> yes
[17:33] <Sentynel> G__81: can you pastebin the output of apt-cache policy libkdecore5 please
[17:33] <Daskreech> simplygades: no the IRC channel #ubuntu+1
[17:34] <simplygades> OK, thank you!
[17:34] <G__81> Sentynel, http://pastebin.com/Lfb0By43
[17:36] <Sentynel> G__81: the PPAs aren't listed there; what's the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-backports-precise.list
[17:36] <G__81> # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu precise main
[17:36] <G__81> # deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu precise main
[17:36] <G__81> its commented out
[17:36] <G__81> why is that
[17:37] <FloodBotK1> G__81: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:37] <Sentynel> whatever you did to add it didn't work
[17:37] <shumski> that's what ppa purge does
[17:37] <shumski> it comments out entry
[17:37] <G__81> shumski, i added back the ppa again doesnt it override that?
[17:37] <shumski> i guess not :)
[17:39] <G__81> i can uncomment the first line alone right?
[17:39] <G__81> The sources arent need. are they ?
[17:40] <Sentynel> not if you won't want the source packages
[17:41] <G__81> ok i hope this time it works fine
[17:41] <G__81> i have the png image of how the dolphin looks like after the upgrade
[17:41] <G__81> it does not have any borders at all
[17:41] <G__81> not able to close the window as such
[17:42] <shumski> you mean no window decorations?
[17:42] <G__81> yes
[17:42] <G__81> i can upload the image somewhere
[17:42] <G__81> so that i could raise a bug if i again hit this issue
[17:43] <shumski> try doing (if that happens again) kwin --replace (best would be to do it in konsole, so you can upload the output)
[17:44] <G__81> ok i am upgrading the version now. i see the updates now and its downloading
[17:52] <G__81> brb
[17:52] <Alex-Zion> I was reading on kubuntu.org about kde 4.8.5 and 4.9 that cames out in few days ....., should I upgrade to 4.9 or 4.8.5 ?
[17:57] <rottingdead> Hello, I'm trying to set a shortcut for this game I play, I'm assuming I put Meta+Alt+E to Terminal= line no?
[17:57] <BluesKaj> 4.9 is out , it's in the backports, Alex-Zion
[17:57] <rottingdead> It's not working there, =(.
[17:58] <BluesKaj> rottingdead, what's not working ?
[17:58] <Alex-Zion> yeah I know ..., and it should be stable like always I guess ....
[17:58] <rottingdead> BluesKaj: Trying to set a shortcut to Konsole while I'm playing this game..  I mispoke earlier about the game..
[17:59] <rottingdead> BluesKaj: Konsole specifically using Meta+Alt+E to Launch konsole.
[17:59] <Alex-Zion> anyway I'll upgrade to 4.9 , it should be fine ..
[18:00] <rottingdead> BluesKaj: Meta would be the Windows Key.
[18:01] <Alex-Zion> BluesKaj:  or if you install yakuake , you'll have the konsole just with F12 .. ;)
[18:03] <BluesKaj> Alex-Zion, after upgrading to 4.9 , make sure you dist-upgrade
[18:04] <rottingdead> Brg
[18:04] <rottingdead> brb*
[18:04] <BluesKaj> Alex-Zion, I just keep the terminal in a launcher
[18:04] <G__81> it works fine
[18:04] <G__81> Sentynel, it works fine. I dont see the dolphin problem again
[18:05] <G__81> the themes still dont look good.
[18:05] <G__81> especially the air theme when enabled with effects, i dont see the window names on the task bar
[18:07] <shumski> screenshot?
[18:08] <rottingdead> Whew, thought I broke konsole
[18:09] <G__81> shumski, screenshot of the theme problem?
[18:10] <G__81> the other issue i see is that Konsole by default when started starts with the directory set to Documents instead of home directory
[18:12] <shumski> yes, that's a known issue (konsole one), for theme, yeah post a screenshot
[18:13] <shumski> You can 'fix' konsole issue with 'Settings --> Edit Current Profile --> Initial directory'
[18:15] <MadKaw> I'd like a sales-talk. I am looking at a new install, I am trying to decide bwtween Kubuntu, Fedora, and OpenSuse. Why Kubuntu?
[18:16] <G__81> shumski, thanks fixed that issue
[18:19] <BluesKaj> MadKaw, we don't do polls here , try them and decide for yourself what suits you best
[18:21] <MadKaw> Wasn't after a poll. I've just gotten frustrated trying to find current comparisons. Seems like most sites I find with search engines are 2 versions old.
[18:22] <MadKaw> If you can even suggest a set of search terms that would bring up current tests, I'd be grateful.
[18:23] <BluesKaj> you'll find alot of info here MadKaw , but they're biased against debian and it's relatives
[18:23] <BluesKaj> http://distrowatch.com/
[18:27] <MadKaw> Thanks. I've not succeeded in digging much out of distrowatch - I'll go get a bigger shovel.
[18:28] <BluesKaj> mad , this list is larger http://www.livecdlist.com/
[18:28] <BluesKaj> MadKaw,^
[18:34] <skreech_> MadKaw: What are you lokoing for?
[18:36] <skreech_> looking
[18:36] <MadKaw> Ultimately, a reason for selecting a distro for multiple installs. I have "decided" to switch from Gnome to KDE for at least the next 3 years, and am trying to figure out whick KDE distro will be easiest to install and support on laptops.
[18:42] <BluesKaj> MadKaw, i haven't tried many other distros lately , but I made sure I used kde ...kubuntu is still my choice for everyday use.. That's about it.
[18:43] <Daskreech> MadKaw: Random laptops? or some specific subset you control?
[18:46] <MadKaw> Specific laptops - but a pretty random assortment based on what is currently owned. It includes Acer, Dell, HP, Gateway, and Samsung models. I have already checked the hardware compatibility and drivers should not be a major issue with the possible exception of the Samsung, which will require some tweaking to get the HDMI working.
[18:47] <Daskreech> MadKaw: You mean checked in regards to those distros or just the state of lInux in general?
[18:49] <MadKaw> Both. The Samsung appears to be the only issue.
[19:06] <Daskreech> MadKaw: Well then I guess just hang out in all three channels and see which one has the best support team
[19:06] <Daskreech> That should cover you
[19:06] <MadKaw> Now THAT is an excellent idea!
[19:06] <Daskreech> Glad that you got it
[19:08] <DFrostedWang> I debootstrapped a wheezy system and chrooted into it, but it can access out of it's / folder somehow
[19:08] <DFrostedWang> "top" can view all system processes
[19:08] <DFrostedWang> Why?
[19:09] <Daskreech> DFrostedWang: are you root?
[19:09] <DFrostedWang> Yes
[19:09] <DFrostedWang> I should make a new user?
[19:10] <Daskreech> no
[19:10] <DFrostedWang> Then what?
[19:10] <Daskreech> DFrostedWang: wait. hold on. when you say that you can't access outside it's /
[19:10] <Daskreech>  do you mean you can't descend?
[19:10] <DFrostedWang> I mean it cant ascend
[19:10] <DFrostedWang> s/cant/can
[19:11] <Daskreech> Of course you can't
[19:11] <Daskreech>  I debootstrapped a wheezy system and chrooted into it
[19:11] <DFrostedWang> I can, because I can see Firefox running outside chroot
[19:11] <Daskreech> chroot means change root
[19:11] <DFrostedWang> With "top"
[19:11] <DFrostedWang> ?
[19:11] <Daskreech> so your root is now where you chrooted into
[19:11] <DFrostedWang> Yeah
[19:11] <Daskreech> i.e. you cannot go above that
[19:11] <DFrostedWang> But Firefox isn't installed or running from chroot
[19:12] <Daskreech> Yes I know
[19:12] <DFrostedWang> How can it see it?
[19:12] <Daskreech> but that's kernel processes not filesystem
[19:12] <Daskreech> two different things
[19:12] <DFrostedWang> Huh...
[19:12] <DFrostedWang> Okay then
[19:13] <Daskreech> In a similar manner you can pull a executable from a different computer and run it on your local computer
[19:13] <Daskreech>  or throw one from this computer onto another
[19:13] <DFrostedWang> Neat
[19:13] <Daskreech> kernel and file system are not tied to each other
[19:14] <shumski> if you mounted /proc to $wheezy-chroot/proc, you'll see processes from your 'native' OS
[19:15] <DFrostedWang> Oh
[19:15] <DFrostedWang> Okay
[19:15] <DFrostedWang> I did that...
[19:15] <DFrostedWang> Thanx for clearing that up
[19:16] <shumski> same with /dev
[19:17] <Daskreech> Not exactly the same but pretty close :)
[19:18] <shumski> well, not processes but 'devices'
[19:18] <Daskreech> Yep
[19:19] <shumski> anyone tried this, rather cool(me has no qss skill's so i can only steal other's themes): http://sourceforge.net/p/be-shell/wiki/Installation/
[19:42] <anand> hi
[19:43] <anand> I have kubuntu 12.04 on dell inspiron
[19:43] <anand> touchpad multi touch is not workiing on it
[19:43] <anand> can it be fixed
[19:44] <anand> any links or anyone facced the same issue
[19:44] <anand> i m not able to find the solution
[19:46] <anand> In touchpad settings it is saying no touchpad found
[19:47] <anand> ?
[19:57] <opi> (j #phing
[20:08] <lustic> Hi there How do i install skype in Kubuntu ?  In ubuntu the software manager opens it up and installs it,
[20:08] <lustic> this option seems to not be available in kubuntu
[20:13] <lustic> I'm going back to ubuntu, Kde sucks
[20:29] <ooo> have a interestng problem with network manager or net tool--Can someone help me?
[20:31] <nsmgo> i'm having difficulty using chkconfig to modify my services to start on boot; and i'm not familiar with upstart. Any ideas?
[20:35] <rork> Some more details might be helpfull to get those questions answered, what is the interesting problem? And what are you looking for, help with chkconfig or an alternative?
[20:35] <rork> Anyway I'm afraid I can't be of any help for both these problems, gl
[20:36] <ooo> ok so everytime i shut my lid on my laptop or restart I have to reset my modem by unplugging the coaxial cable for me to get wireless internet
[20:36] <ooo> i can't get wireless internet otherwise
[20:37] <ooo> so if i were to restart i wouldn't get internet unless i have to reset my modem every time
[20:37] <ooo> The driver seems ok.....  I go to system>additional drivers>  The proprietary driver I installed.
[20:38] <ooo> Its a BCM 4313  PCI ID  14e4:4727
[20:41] <ooo> 64 bytes transmiteed..... when I ping 8.8.8.8......16 packets transmitted....15 received.....6%packet loss
[20:41] <nsmgo> rork: suggesting an alternative? and i think it's working with the use of update-rc.d
[20:43] <ooo> did a lspci...... Ethernet controller Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11/g/n Wireless LAN controller (rev01)
[20:43] <ooo> oops i mean network controller*
[20:43] <ooo> ethernet controller is > Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)
[20:44] <ooo> I don't understand why I can't get internet when I restart my laptop or close the lid...
[20:44] <ooo> thats what doesn't make sense
[20:46]  * DFrostedWang is away: I'm not here right now. Go bother somebody else.
[20:47] <ooo> I have comcast... Xfinity box wireless router/modem
[20:47] <ooo> its both
[20:48] <ooo> nobody at comcast knows anything....
[20:48] <ooo> They don't support linux
[20:48] <ooo> The lady said in 5 years she has had only one other caller with linux making me number 2
[20:56] <iamacat> ohai
[20:57] <nsmgo> Does anyone know if the settings for eth0/1/2 in /etc/network/interfaces get started when i reboot my system?
[20:58] <nsmgo> moving to a static IP only network; did a apt-get remove  isc-dhcp-client
[20:59] <nsmgo> if the service networking has been depreciated; how is my networking handled now in 12.04?
[20:59] <BluesKaj> nsmgo, your network interfaces file  should contain the line "auto eth0"
[21:01] <nsmgo> BluesKaj: bingo. thank you.
[21:01] <BluesKaj> nsmgo, np
[21:02] <nsmgo> just wanting to say: without "auto eth0" i would have to use ifup/ifdown instead of service networking start now right?
[21:04] <ooo> is someone looking at my problem just curious, that way I'm not waiting if no one is looking at it
[21:09] <BluesKaj> nsmgo, not sure but if you want to move to static IP on your pc ..this is static on your LAN ,, not your internet IP  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[21:10] <nsmgo> yes, just static host/server on the lan which will run dns, dhcp, and router/gateway to another gateway to the WAN.
[21:11] <BluesKaj> !BCM | ooo
[21:12] <BluesKaj> nsmgo, that tutorial above is my reference for static IP on LAN ...it works for most setups
[21:12] <ooo> I did that here are the other details..... https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/204890
[21:12] <ooo> I actually used that link
[21:13] <ooo> I reinstalled the already installed proprietary driver
[21:13] <ooo> broadcom STA wireless driver was in System>additional drivers
[21:14] <nsmgo> BluesKaj: that link; it doesn't include the "auto eth0" you mentioned?
[21:18] <nsmgo> BluesKaj: just a viewing of the interfaces file: comments welcome: http://paste.kde.org/530426/
[21:19] <BluesKaj> nsmgo, oh I'd forgotten about that , I have both lines in mine and it works
[21:19] <nsmgo> BluesKaj: =) my thoughts exactly
[21:22] <BluesKaj> here's mine nsmgo http://paste.kde.org/530432/
[21:22] <ooo> I have had almost zero problems with linux and am good about looking up to fix my own easy problems... but this is kinda a rediculous problem.....
[21:22] <ooo> I'm not a computer science engineer
[21:22] <ooo> I'm not a computer hardware engineer
[21:22] <ooo> no a computer software engineer
[21:23] <ooo> so I can only do so much
[21:24] <ooo> In fact I'm not YET a computer programmer-Although I'm learning C on my own.
[21:24] <ooo> no formal education with that
[21:24] <BluesKaj> neither are we , mostly just experienced users , ooo but sometimes one comes up against companies that don't give hoot about linux and they'll do nothing to help altho their modem/router probly runs on linux
[21:26] <ooo> yeah comcast has no support for linux which is making things more difficult
[21:27] <ooo> the weird thing is the older modem worked flawlessly its just when I exchanged it for a modem/router instead of just a slower modem
[21:30] <ooo> this modem/router Combined.... has WPA2 encryption, Dox 3 whatever that is  , faster connection speeds
[21:31] <ooo> so it worked before with this hardware, whatever driver, on the old modem and a linksys b old router
[21:31] <ooo> linksys b btw is old school
[21:32] <ooo> WEP encryption, slow, etc
[21:32] <BluesKaj> ooo, looks to me you need to do some research about your particular router/modem  is it a  well known brand ? I so it might be loaded with proprietary firmware that can be worked around ,,, I'm sure others on liux are using the  same equipment
[21:33] <ooo> ok its an Xfinity comcast modem/router
[21:33] <BluesKaj> others on linux that is
[21:33] <ooo> they gave it to me
[21:40] <BluesKaj> ooo, do you have web interface to your modem , run route -n to find the router IP . you might be able to firm up your wifi settings in the router itself , the IP will be under Gateway
[21:41] <ooo> 71.237.4.1 ---Gateway IP
[21:41] <ooo> i dont know what route -n is but ok
[21:42] <ooo> what is a web interface to my modem
[21:45] <ooo> Don't get me wrong linux is the best OS but for whatever reason behind the scenes people are not working with linux.
[21:46] <ooo> Linux is far better than windows and better than MAC OS..
[21:46] <ooo> and every program I want on windows such as photoshop i can get on linux such as gimp for free
[21:46] <ooo> i don't understand the free as in beer part but its free
[21:47] <ooo> i don't pay a dime and it runs like a dream until this
[21:49] <BluesKaj> ooo, type the route -n IP into a browser
[21:54] <ooo> type  route -n 71.237.4.1 into a web browser?
[21:56] <BluesKaj> type route -n into the terminal ,. then  the resulting Gateway IP is typed into the browser addresbar
[21:56] <ooo> ok
[21:56] <jEhrichs> does anyone know a solution to "/usr/lib/libkhtml.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZN6Phonon11VideoPlayer5eventEP6QEvent" google isn't very helpful here. I've checked the symlinks to libphonon and all point to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libphonon.so.4.6.0 which seem to be correct
[21:56] <jEhrichs> has anyone a clue what could cause this error?
[21:56] <ooo> it says its taking too long to respond
[21:57] <ooo> BluesKaj it won't load
[21:59] <BluesKaj> the IP you used was directly underneath gateway in the terminal , correct , ooo ?
[21:59] <ooo> yes
[22:00] <ooo> Output>>>>Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[22:00] <ooo> 0.0.0.0         71.237.4.1      0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth1
[22:00] <ooo> 71.237.4.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.252.0   U     2      0        0 eth1
[22:00] <ooo> oops
[22:00] <ooo> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[22:00] <ooo> 0.0.0.0         71.237.4.1      0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth1
[22:00] <ooo> 71.237.4.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.252.0   U     2      0        0 eth1
[22:00] <FloodBotK1> ooo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:00] <ooo> ok
[22:01] <BluesKaj>  then i"m out of ideas ...most ISPs allow user access to router settings
[22:01] <ooo> well i do have a settings thing
[22:01] <BluesKaj> besides it's dinnertime here ..gotta go ...
[22:01] <ooo> i type in 10.0.01
[22:01] <ooo> then i have access to some settings
[22:02] <ooo> its like there settings page
[22:03] <ooo> alright have a good night
[22:03] <ooo> hanks for trying
[22:52] <roezer> Geforce 210 nvidia card anyone using one
[23:14] <guest__> Anyone ever tried to use a Dell 1720 printer on Kubuntu?
[23:16] <ClarionInn> I'm having issues with a Dell 1720 Printer on my Kubuntu 11.04. I'm using a generic driver that guide said would work but it at times just prints pages of wingdings