[07:14] <philballew> Is anyone aware of pre-built ubuntu openbox iso's?
[12:52] <vagn_karlsson> Hello, does the copy-on-write feature of Btrfs mean that file copies always instantaneous?
[14:46] <Pip__> Hey folks.  I've 3gb RAM in a rig running 32bit 12.04 with an 8400GS nvidia graphics card & it still only sees 2.7 gb of the RAM.  Any ideas what's happening with that?
[14:53] <holstein> Pip__: thats what i would expect to see
[14:53] <cortman> That sounds fairly normal to me Pip__
[14:54] <holstein> could the shared ram, or an estimate by the manufacturer, or the OS... i wouldnt lose sleep over it
[14:55] <cortman> I think my 4 GB laptop shows 3.8 or something like that- though why it shows that and not the full 4 GB I'm not sure.
[14:55] <cortman> I don't believe your computer is utilizing any less of its available RAM.
[14:56] <smartboyhw> Yeah, my computer shows only 3.8 GB usable, but with 4.0GB RAM.
[14:57] <rajanmasterp> Please help in my ubuntu customised 12.04 Please help to fix some errors
[14:57] <cortman> What errors are you seeing rajanmasterp ?
[14:58] <rajanmasterp> ok thanks I can't open ubuntu softwere centre and tweek
[14:58] <rajanmasterp> I am still using this customised version
[14:58] <cortman> What happens when you try opening the software center?
[14:59] <Pip__> holstein, cortman: thanks, it was just freaking me out a bit
[14:59] <rajanmasterp> any one help me
[14:59] <holstein> Pip__: no worries... enjoy!
[14:59] <holstein> rajanmasterp: what customized version? is there a support channel for that distro?
[15:01] <rajanmasterp> An error appears ubuntu softwere centre closed unexpectly
[15:01] <rajanmasterp> No There is no support
[15:01] <Pip__> thanks again guys, ttfn
[15:01] <rajanmasterp> 12.04 lts
[15:01] <holstein> rajanmasterp: what operating system are you using?
[15:01] <holstein> rajanmasterp: what do you mean by "customized"?
[15:02] <rajanmasterp> ubuntu Which i customised
[15:02] <holstein> rajanmasterp: in what way?
[15:02] <stlsaint> rajanmasterp: questin is HOW did you customize it....
[15:02] <stlsaint> holstein: +1
[15:02] <rajanmasterp> I added all packages to 12.04 and used ubuntu builder to create new distro
[15:03] <holstein> rajanmasterp: open the terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update" ...pastebin any errors
[15:03] <rajanmasterp> I run already that
[15:03] <stlsaint> rajanmasterp: ubuntu builder is NOT used to create a new distro
[15:03] <holstein> rajanmasterp: ok... share the error output after running it again
[15:04] <stlsaint> rajanmasterp: it is used to create a .deb to allow custom settings but it is by no means meant to be a distro builder
[15:04] <rajanmasterp> then how can I do that
[15:04] <stlsaint> rajanmasterp: use a application called remastersys http://remastersys.com/
[15:05] <rajanmasterp> I used first remastersys easy way.But I want just like an official ubuntu.Then I used ubuntu builder
[15:06] <holstein> i would troubleshoot like a normal ubuntu install rajanmasterp ...i would look for and apply upgrades..i would try launching the application from the terminal to see error output, i would try as a different user to remove the current .config files from the equation
[15:06] <stlsaint> rajanmasterp: a custom ubuntu is not an official ubuntu. Remastersys is quickest and easiest way
[15:06] <rajanmasterp> drcksd@drcksd-HCL-Notebook:~$ sudo apt-get update [sudo] password for drcksd:  Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease                                       Get:1 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B]                           Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise InRelease                                  Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise InRelease                                  Ign http://security.u
[15:06] <stlsaint> !pastebinit
[15:06] <ubot2> pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:07] <holstein> rajanmasterp: you can just share the errors, if there are any.. you can try launching the software center from the terminal and look for errors as well
[15:07] <stlsaint> rajanmasterp: that format does not help. if you need to paste something use pastebin.com or the like
[15:08] <rajanmasterp> sorry how to use  pastebin
[15:10] <holstein> rajanmasterp: take a look at the link stlsaint linked above
[15:10] <holstein> !pastebin | rajanmasterp
[15:10] <ubot2> rajanmasterp: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[15:12] <holstein> rajanmasterp: you can just look at the output and see if there are errors
[15:12] <pecc> hi, I'm stuck at installing from USB... everything went fine (formatting C) but now we're stuck in the Choose Picture scene -- the choosing/webcam responds smoothly but clicking on the buttons (Back/Install) does nothing, it's been like this for the last 10 min
[15:13] <holstein> formatting c?
[15:13] <smartboyhw> Dude, I think he's using Windows.
[15:13] <pecc> yes, the laptop has win 7 previously and we're getting rid of it
[15:14] <holstein> pecc: let me suggest... run the live CD.. get to the desktop, install from there
[15:14] <pecc> cannot use CD, no CD drives available whatsoever
[15:14] <smartboyhw> WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!
[15:15] <cortman> A ubiquity problem, it sounds like.
[15:15] <smartboyhw> Yes, it is.
[15:15] <smartboyhw> Report bug.
[15:15] <holstein> pecc: right.. the live CD that you have made into a live USB is what im reffereing to
[15:15] <holstein> pecc: use that to get to the desktop... OR, you can also try installing the OS with the alternate installer
[15:16] <pecc> ach ok so run Win 7, open device folder, run the stuff on USB from there?
[15:16] <holstein> pecc: i dont know anything about win7.. im talking about installing ubuntu from the live CD where i assume you are having issues
[15:17] <cortman> I think basically... restart the installation (boot from the USB drive).
[15:17] <holstein> pecc: i would start by botting the cd or USB
[15:17] <holstein> booting*
[15:17] <pecc> oooook
[15:17] <cortman> It could just be some hangup that won't repeat itself.
[15:17] <pecc> we'll try it then
[15:17] <cortman> good luck. :)
[15:17] <pecc> thx (:
[15:17] <holstein> depends on what you want... this will install ubuntu, either replacing win7, or beside win7
[15:17] <pecc> I'll let you know how it goes
[15:17] <cortman> Do that
[15:18] <pecc> Initially we chose beside, but I had big trouble understanding the partition screen (it didn't give option for auto partition) and my friend here swears she's fine with only Ubuntu on this particular laptop...
[15:23] <pecc> aha now it's at "Preparing to install Ubuntu" where it checks that you have the dish space and a net conenction and whatnot... clicked continue, error: ubi-partman failed with exit code 10 (this didn't happen last time)
[15:24] <smartboyhw> God, another bug or something?
[15:24] <pecc> "try again" fixed that though
[15:24] <smartboyhw> YEAH!
[15:24] <smartboyhw> Continue, pecc.
[15:25] <pecc> similar (but not same) type of error occurred at later parts last time, starting from "choose timezone" at 2 or 3 different parts, "try again" didn't help for 5 tries at any point
[15:25] <pecc> continuing now
[15:25] <pecc> wow
[15:25] <smartboyhw> ?
[15:25] <pecc> "This computer currently has Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on it"
[15:26] <smartboyhw> Wait, don't you have Windows 7 on it?
[15:26] <pecc> I'll abort this installation and see if I can run that
[15:26] <smartboyhw> Don't abort!!!!!!
[15:26] <pecc> not anymore it seems!
[15:27] <pecc> it seems it started installing anyways even though the button didn't seem to respond and the "choose picture" stayed there
[15:27] <pecc> so it erased Win 7 and installed at least partly Ubuntu
[15:27] <cortman> Right
[15:27] <cortman> Sounds to me like the ISO image you made the USB disk with was corrupt
[15:27] <pecc> so, try to "erase and reinstall"?
[15:28] <smartboyhw> God, re-download the ISO.
[15:28] <cortman> Or else the bootable USB wasn't made correctly
[15:28] <pecc> I used LiLi USB creator for that
[15:28] <cortman> LiLi is awesome
[15:28] <cortman> So you're probably good there.
[15:28] <smartboyhw> Lili's great
[15:29] <pecc> ok, remake USB-booter-live-CD-thing
[15:29] <cortman> You can try the part-installation or redo it, but if you still don't have any luck I'd say re-download the ISO and check the md5sum for integrity.
[15:29] <pecc> let's go
[15:29] <cortman> How to check md5sums >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM/
[15:30] <smartboyhw> MD5 or SHA1, I like SHA1.
[15:31] <pecc> "Erase Ubuntu blah blah and reinstall", "The entire disk will be used", click "install now" > "no root file system is defined, use partitioning menu"
[15:31] <cortman> smartboyhw, you don't use sha1 to verify ISOs.
[15:31] <pecc> "ok" > auto redirect to Instalaltion type, "ubi-partman failed with exit code 141"
[15:31] <pecc> ugh
[15:31] <smartboyhw> Sometimes.
[15:31] <cortman> Yeah, re-download the ISO pecc
[15:31] <smartboyhw> I even use SHA256!
[15:32] <smartboyhw> They are available on download pages.
[15:32] <cortman> Backup: you are right- I forgot sha1sum
[15:32] <pecc> alright, and presumably format the USB drive and install the re-dloaded ISO via LiLi?
[15:33] <cortman> Yep- just check the "format drive" option in LiLi
[15:33] <cortman> But do check the md5sum using the methods in the link I gave you
[15:34] <pecc> ugh more downloads
[15:34] <pecc> but ok will do
[15:44] <pecc> checksums identical, moving on...
[15:44] <pecc> (assuming they are supposed to be identical :P)
[15:45] <cortman> Yep they should be lol
[15:49] <smartboyhw> Bye!
[15:59] <pecc> Lili running
[16:09] <pecc> ready to retsy installing
[16:09] <pecc> 'RETRY
[16:12] <pecc> "UBUNTU [dot dot dot]" screen gone, black screening
[16:12] <pecc> for a few minutes and def longer than previously
[16:16] <IAmNotThatGuy> pecc, what is your machine configuration? what version of Ubuntu are you trying?
[16:16] <pecc> 12.04
[16:16] <IAmNotThatGuy> Okay. you are getting the Ubuntu text in the middle of a screen and the dots rolling?
[16:17] <pecc> yes, and it goes away after a minute or so and just black screens
[16:17] <pecc> as for config, which info you want? I got the screen ready
[16:17] <pecc> model, processor?
[16:25] <sandyd> pecc, what video card do you have?
[16:27] <pecc> sandyd, ehhh my screen won't show and I have trouble googling the info
[16:28] <sandyd> pecc, thats going to be a problem
[16:28] <sandyd> have you tried nomodeset?
[16:28] <pecc> what's that :o
[16:29] <sandyd> when you boot up from the cd, do you see the menu?
[16:31] <pecc> sandyd is Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD a video card name?
[16:31] <pecc> google finally found something usable
[16:31] <sandyd> hmm
[16:31] <r3dnecksec> Howdy
[16:31] <sandyd> boot up from the cd
[16:31] <sandyd> when you reach the purple screen
[16:31] <sandyd> in fact, as soon as you do
[16:32] <sandyd> start hitting keys until the menu pops up
[16:32] <r3dnecksec> I am runnong a 10.04 server and have a question about postfix.
[16:32] <pecc> ugh, missed it :I
[16:32] <pecc> dots screen again
[16:32] <r3dnecksec> I have it installed and it is accepting mail, but it is not delivering to my other mail server (running Exchange). I am having troubles finding a log on the postfix server to see why it is not being delivered. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[16:33] <pecc> o.o function keys give a screenful of text updating row by row
[16:33] <pecc> but it's not a menu though
[16:33] <sandyd> you have to press the key as soon as the cd starts
[16:34] <sandyd> btw, is your computer old?
[16:34] <sandyd> like 4+ years
[16:34] <pecc> it's -10
[16:34] <sandyd> hmm
[16:35] <sandyd> I think I know whats wrong.
[16:35] <pecc> oh it got past the dots now, I see the default background (pink/purple haze)
[16:35] <sandyd> tell me when you figur eout how to to get to the screen
[16:35] <pecc> should I reboot and try to get the screen?
[16:35] <sandyd> try it.
[16:35] <pecc> so am I trying for BIOS or something other?
[16:36] <sandyd> the cd has a hidden boot menu
[16:36] <pecc> cd = usb ok?
[16:36] <pecc> *right?
[16:36] <sandyd> hmmm
[16:37] <sandyd> no, I don't think you can.
[16:37] <sandyd> just install ubutu for now
[16:37] <pecc> ok
[16:37] <sandyd> if it doesn't boot up afterwords, the we can apply the fix
[16:37] <sandyd> its just adding i915.modeset=0 to the kernel line
[16:37] <pecc> skipping update dloading and 3rd party software this time
[16:39] <pecc> SWEET it got to timezones without coughs
[16:40] <pecc> SWEETx2 it responded to continue
[16:41] <pecc> "Welcome to Ubuntu" "copying files" this seems to be not-saying-the-w-word-because-im-superstitious, now :3
[16:57] <pecc> sandyd, it said installation complete and asked to reboot. doing it now
[16:57] <pecc> logging in...
[16:58] <pecc> seems to work perfectly
[16:58] <pecc> thanks for all your help sandyd,  cortman, and others
[16:58] <pecc> I'll go now
[16:58] <sandyd> your welcome