[12:34] <doctormon> I'm after the contact details for Canonical Lexington, I've lost the details.
[13:04] <dpm> hey all, we've just announced the Ubuntu App Showdown winners. If you could help us retweeting and sharing the announcement on the social networks, that'd be awesome. Here's the direct link: http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/08/announcing-the-ubuntu-app-showdown-winners/
[13:05] <dpm> on twitter: https://twitter.com/ubuntuappdev/status/232824098496057345
[13:07] <dpm> on G+: https://plus.google.com/111697084657487423167/posts/hPzkh4YKcA7
[14:15] <doctormon> thanks dpm, getting the winners installed now.
[14:15] <doctormon> Thanks for doing to showdown!
[14:16] <dpm> doctormon, awesome, I hope you like the winners - there are also some other cool apps among the participants
[14:16] <doctormon> Oh I know, I have a lot installed from the review process.
[14:16] <dpm> ah yeah
[14:17] <dpm> I also liked gwoffice and postman a lot
[14:17] <doctormon> fudge, I thought lightread was an rss reader, but it's just a google rss reader. I don't want google to know everything I'm reading, god damn.
[14:20] <jcastro> balloons: hah
[14:20] <jcastro> how's the QA thread in the forums coming along? :)
[14:27] <jcastro> dpm: congrats! Nice work on the contest.
[14:27] <jcastro> heh, now to get all that in the software center, that sounds Not Fun.
[14:28] <jcastro> dpm: hey so for quantal, what do you guys do, do you wait for the people to resubmit their apps, or do you attempt to forward port them all at once?
[14:28] <dpm> jcastro, thanks! mhall119, jono, dholbach and many others equally share the credit too :-)
[14:29] <dpm> jcastro, the ARB generally sends an e-mail to all devs asking them to resubmit their apps. The CA team simply copies them all (the commercial ones) to the next release
[14:29] <jcastro> ah ok
[14:29] <jcastro> just as a side note, for the charms
[14:29] <jcastro> since we automatically test them
[14:29] <jcastro> we just copied them from one series to the next
[14:29] <jcastro> and most of them worked ootb
[14:30] <dpm> jcastro, yeah, I see it that way too, and I think at some point the arb will see that resubmitting and re-reviewing is not scalable
[14:32] <doctormon> I love the jigsaw, where's the list of accepted applications for the showdown?
[14:42] <jcastro> doctormon: https://trello.com/board/ubuntu-arb-submissions/4fee2215cee295013c0862ba
[14:43] <doctormon> Ah trello, thanks jcastro, I thought we had a nominal page for the software center links.
[14:43] <jcastro> there's a queue
[14:44] <jcastro> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/arb/
[14:44] <jcastro> There might be a page you describe, not sure.
[14:44] <jcastro> I just happened to be on the board when you asked
[14:44] <doctormon> That's quite a backlog, do we need more people to get ARB apps into the SC?
[14:45] <jcastro> we need more of everything
[14:50] <jcastro> do we have a meeting in 10?
[14:51] <jcastro> if it was replaced with you guys doing your app-dev call again that would be totally fine with me.
[14:51]  * jcastro whistles
[14:59] <jono> dpm, mhall119 will be a just a few mins and then ready
[14:59] <jono> jcastro, app dev call
[14:59] <jono> sorry
[15:00] <jcastro> are you kidding? I'm dancing over here.
[15:01] <mhall119> jono: we're still on a call with didrocks, so we'll be a few also
[15:02] <balloons> jcastro, you were asking about the survey thread I take it?
[15:02] <jcastro> yeah
[15:02] <jono> mhall119, np
[15:03] <jcastro> jono: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qdwyw/
[15:03] <jcastro> let that set the tone for your meeting. heh.
[15:03] <balloons> there's been the usual raf of random complaints. But some folks on the forum have a really good perspective. My goal is to get them to be part of the solution by fixing the problems they know exist..
[15:04] <balloons> on the survey side, we're over 150 responses already :-)
[15:04] <jcastro> nice!
[15:04] <jcastro> mhall119: you're still running your WP on one small or micro on EC2 right?
[15:05] <mhall119> jcastro: yeah, one micro
[15:05] <jcastro> good.
[15:05] <jcastro> marcoceppi: I wonder if the local: trick will work on one micro
[15:05] <jcastro> seems like too much stuff on one
[15:05] <marcoceppi> jcastro: it does, tbh
[15:06] <marcoceppi> MySQL + Micro doesn't play nice
[15:06] <marcoceppi> Too many cycles are stolen from a micro instance
[15:06] <marcoceppi> jcastro: mhall119 we used an m1.small for OMG's database, that could easily hold both
[15:07] <jcastro> yeah but smalls won't work for normal people, that comes out to like 70 bucks
[15:07] <balloons> why not use rds + micro app server?
[15:07] <marcoceppi> balloons: juju doesn't know about rds
[15:07] <marcoceppi> jcastro: ah, then I recommend running your micro in the us-west-2 datacenter
[15:08] <marcoceppi> balloons: that would be a cool subordinate charm though
[15:08] <mhall119> marcoceppi: jcastro: Using the WP caching module lets me skip calling MySQL most of the time, which has been a big performance boost for me
[15:08] <jono> dpm, mhall119 just let me know when you are ready
[15:09] <dpm> jono, we're ready to go
[15:09] <mhall119> jono: I'm ready, dpm?
[15:09] <dpm> yep
[15:09] <jcastro> marcoceppi: ok when we promulgate I'll test it on us-west-2
[15:09] <jcastro> after I sort this HP billing mess
[15:09] <marcoceppi> o/ have fun I'll have something for promulgation in a bit after I wrestle with nfs some more
[15:09] <balloons> marcoceppi, yes.. an rds subordinate
[15:10] <dpm> doctormon, here's the list: http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/apps/
[15:10] <dpm> the trello board can also be filtered by showdown apps
[15:11] <jono> dpm, mhall119 oh, I didn't realize you had finished your call with didrocks
[15:11] <dpm> just finished a few mins ago, we're set now
[15:59] <bkerensa> jcastro: you got billed? :P
[16:00] <jcastro> did you?
[16:01] <jcastro> yeah, I did, heh
[16:01] <bkerensa> idk
[16:01]  * bkerensa goes to check
[16:02] <bkerensa> jcastro: nope it shows at the end that the total cost was discounted
[16:02] <bkerensa> :D
[16:02] <jcastro> rock
[16:17] <bkerensa> jcastro: I see what happened
[16:17] <bkerensa> I think we only get one month of the free service
[16:17] <bkerensa> thats what HP just told me
[16:17] <bkerensa> lol
[16:18] <bkerensa> they said at the end of August regular billing would start for my account
[16:27] <jono> balloons, about set?
[16:27] <balloons> jono, yeo
[16:32] <jono> balloons, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/ac272f81d2ce43250fad99ab0ad102990a52d627?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[17:06] <balloons> i learned something new about unity today.. man, everyday it seems like I find something new and useful
[17:06] <balloons> I was showing my wife keyboard shortcuts and workspaces.. and I found the ctrl+alt+shift arrow keys to move windows. Sweet! no more right click and move to workspace for me
[17:35] <jcastro> balloons: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts
[17:35] <jcastro> pro tip
[17:35] <jcastro> middle click on a window title
[17:35] <jcastro> sends it back in Z order
[17:35] <jcastro> it will change your life
[17:35] <balloons> WHOA!
[17:35] <balloons> zomg
[17:36]  * balloons mind blown
[17:37] <jcastro> I know right
[17:37] <balloons> Right click on Maximize - Maximize Window Horizontally
[17:38] <balloons> superw.. forget that one
[17:39] <balloons> there goes my afternoon..
[17:49] <mhall119> balloons: super+ctrl+(left, right)
[17:49] <mhall119> and super+ctrl+(up,down)
[17:49] <balloons> mhall119, hehe
[17:50] <balloons> I was wondering why I can't ctrl+alt+6
[17:50] <balloons> and snap right
[18:39] <MrChrisDruif> jcastro; you've probably seen this wall before, right? http://joseeantonior.com/pared.png
[18:40] <MrChrisDruif> JoseeAntonioR is trying to recreate it, but he's having trouble finding all the icons (some are hard to find in .svg)
[18:41] <MrChrisDruif> Could you maybe give a pointer where the whole collection can be found, because the "set" of pictograms doesn't contain them all
[18:42] <JoseeAntonioR> thanks, MrChrisDruif
[18:50]  * bkerensa needs a giant Ubuntu Circle of Friends stencil :D
[18:54] <jcastro> that looks sweet dude
[18:54] <jcastro> what's the one top left from the ubuntu logo?
[18:54] <jcastro> the + sign looking one?
[18:54] <JoseeAntonioR> I can't find it, so I don't know what it is
[18:55] <jcastro> "Ubuntu Fan: Keeping you cool and comfortable"
[18:56] <jcastro> balloons: you have nvidia right
[18:56] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[18:56] <jcastro> I get serious sluggishness on 12.10 in nvidia
[18:56] <balloons> jcastro, I have both now
[18:56] <balloons> I'm running 12.10 on the open source amd drivers
[18:57] <balloons> I'm a fan
[18:57] <balloons> heh..
[18:57] <balloons> instant vt switching, no lag.. really no issues
[18:57] <balloons> the nvidia card is on 12.04
[18:58] <balloons> jcastro, has it just been with the 3.5 series kernels?
[18:58] <balloons> I know that's been flagged by some of the testers
[18:59] <jcastro> whatever is in quantal
[18:59] <balloons> that's 3.5 now
[18:59] <balloons> but the first kernel was 3.4
[18:59] <balloons> meaning, at the beginning of the cycle was it an issue?
[18:59] <balloons> or is it an issue now?
[19:01] <jcastro> I think so?
[19:01] <jcastro> let me finish some work stuff then I'll investigate
[19:01] <jcastro> I was just wondering if you had an offhand "oh everyone knows nvidia is broken right now"
[19:03] <balloons> lol
[19:03] <balloons> yes
[19:03] <balloons> everyone knows :-)
[19:04] <balloons> the big deal is the new x server
[19:04] <bkerensa> is xserver-xorg fixed in quantal yet?
[19:09] <balloons> bkerensa, I'm not sure on the exact status.. My guess is no
[19:09] <bkerensa> =/
[19:09] <bkerensa> I upgraded my new install on my SSD and it nuked
[19:09] <bkerensa> it wouldnt boot into lightdm
[19:10] <balloons> bkerensa, ohh ?
[19:10] <bkerensa> yeah
[19:10] <balloons> u still have it?
[19:10] <bkerensa> nope
[19:10] <bkerensa> I wiped
[19:10] <balloons> ahh
[19:10] <bkerensa> I tried everything though
[19:10] <bkerensa> I went to recovery and root terminal
[19:10] <balloons> i believe the x version in proposed or from the testing ppa would have worked for you
[19:10] <bkerensa> and tried purging xserver*
[19:10] <bkerensa> and reinstalling
[19:10] <bkerensa> one of the depends was not available or something