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micahgSpamapS: need something approved?00:03
SpamapSmicahg: not urgently00:06
micahgthere are quite a few items that need attention, I'm happy to push something through so it's available for 12.04.1 though00:06
SpamapSmicahg: no its not for 12.04.1 .. just some stuff to make things better for juju users.00:07
micahgwell, it obviously wouldn't be in the point release, but I'm saying to have it available when LTS users upgrade00:08
micahganyways, feel free to file the requests, poke if they're not addressed within a reasonable amount of time00:08
SpamapShttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/txaws/+bug/94517600:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 945176 in Precise Backports "Support privateIpAddress and ipAddress" [Undecided,Confirmed]00:12
SpamapSmicahg: testing is all done, it should be in good shape00:12
micahgSpamapS: ok, looks good, in the future, it might be easier to use the requestbackport script so that you can clearly mark things as tested00:14
SpamapSmicahg: sure, this was a case where I already had a bug report that is really a feature request so just felt it was easier to open a task00:16
micahgSpamapS: one quick question, did you test build juju against the backported txaws?00:23
SpamapSmicahg: thats the last thing I uploaded00:23
SpamapShttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/112145340/buildlog-juju-precise-backported-txaws.txt00:23
micahgSpamapS: ah, sorry, indeed, BTW, are you full AA enough to accept (it's sitting in unapproved)00:24
SpamapSmicahg: I've never been officially blessed for full AA work, so I'll let it be. But thanks!00:24
ScottKLooks like someone else got it.02:56
slangasekhallyn: ping03:30
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hallynslangasek: hey04:07
hallyngood night04:16
slangasekhallyn: bah, sorry I missed you05:09
slangasekhallyn: this was regarding /dev/console being a symlink to /dev/lxc/console... when you say /dev/lxc/console is a bind mount from devpts, you mean the (major,minor) will be those of a pty (136,n) rather than (5,1)?05:11
slangasekstgraber: ^^ if you're around and know the answer :)05:12
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sveinsebuilding protobuf (2.4.1-1ubuntu2) from precise  failed when I run dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc -us. I got "Makefile.am:84: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined" when make check-local is run12:15
Sweetsharkbug 1017125 just got a lot more sexy title ...12:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1017125 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "boost::unordered_multimap<>::erase(iterator, iterator) broken on quantal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101712512:29
Sweetshark^^ are you maintaining a C++ package? fearzorz this bug!12:31
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stgraberslangasek: that's correct, /dev/lxc/console is a pty (136, n)13:05
stgraber@pilot out13:20
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ogra_NCommander, did you ever fix the broken flash-kernel upload to -proposed where you broke my changelog entry by omitting -v ? or do i need to dig up my bug and close it by hand now ?13:34
zygadoko, ping13:45
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hallynslangasek: right.  So neither /dev/console nor /dev/lxc/console will be (5,1), unfortunately13:47
stokachuhi, could i get some multi-arch clarification wrt libgnomevfs2-bin and whether Multi-Arch: foreign or Multi-Arch: same is the correct syntax? https://code.launchpad.net/~adam-stokes/ubuntu/quantal/gnome-vfs/lp977940-multiarch/+merge/11425813:53
jamespageinfinity, nudge re bug 102803814:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1028038 in eglibc (Ubuntu Precise) "sscanf always calls realloc/causes deadlock in google-perftools" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102803814:08
jamespageany eta on when you might get to it?14:08
stokachuapw: pinGGG14:09
seb128 $ fakeroot dbus-launch dbus-monitor14:13
seb128 Failed to open connection to session bus: Did not receive a reply.14:13
seb128  14:13
seb128 does anyone know how to workaround that?14:13
apwseb128, hi14:14
seb128apw, hey14:15
apwseb128, bah got all distracted, wanted someone else, soz14:15
apwstokachu, hi14:15
seb128no worry ;-)14:15
stokachuapw: hey there.. wrt to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlusOneMaintenanceTeam/Basics, i set a squid-deb-proxy but will it be used in chroots that weren't built with the proxy prepended?14:16
apwstokachu, you either need to use http_proxy= when you build it or do the equivalent of installing squid-deb-proxy-client within it14:17
stokachuapw: gotcha14:17
dokozyga, pong14:21
zygadoko, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults/+bug/102672314:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1026723 in python-defaults (Ubuntu) "Disagreement between pkg-config python and python-config" [Medium,New]14:22
zygadoko, would you mind weighting in on that issue?14:23
zygadoko, I've pinged barry about it a while ago and he sent me to you14:23
jodhhallyn: I've just tested with lxc and Upstart attempts to mount /dev due to /dev/console, but it's non-fatal. Are there any options for handling this aside from an extra check to see if /dev/console exists with major 136?14:23
jamespagestokachu, you should be able todo that pretty easily - if you drop this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1134352/14:30
jamespageinto /etc/apt/apt.conf.d in the source schroot it will use squid-deb-proxy locally14:30
stokachujamespage: ah awesome, thanks!14:32
jamespagestokachu, note you can also use the --debootstrap-proxy= argument to mk-sbuild to specify a proxy14:33
hallynjodh: well, a devices namespace :)  which would map 5,1 in containet to 136,X on host14:33
hallynjodh: if it's non-fatal, that's great.  actually that might be bc apparmor refsued the mount14:34
hallynso a container with lxc.aa_profile = unconfined might mess up14:34
hallynjodh: what is the exact requirement?  You want devtmpfs mounted if any core device is messed up?  It just seems draconian and system-D ish right now14:35
hallynoh, also i guess a boot argument (nodevtmpfs) could work14:35
jodhhallyn: this all started when we added job logging; that requires /dev/pts and /dev/ptmx.14:35
jodhhallyn: no problem, until users started to boot without an initramfs ;)14:35
hallynjodh: so /dev/console could just be ignored?14:35
hallynjodh: also, have you checked that /dev/ptmx as a file bind-mounted from /dev/pts/ptmx works? a nd as a symlink?14:36
hallynbc those are all valid.  i don't think you were using lstat14:36
jodhhallyn: as slangasek noted, we're trying to avoid this bug fix blossoming into a monster. However, we are attempting to ensure a minimally sane environment in the initramfs-less case.14:39
hallynjodh: how does 'nodevtmpfs' upstart cmdline option sound?14:40
hallynor, it could check for the established 'container=' env variable14:40
jodhhallyn: I guess a new cmdline option would make sense - could you raise a bug on this please?14:45
hallynjodh: i'll just wait to see if it breaks when it hits the archive?  :)14:49
hallynyou say it worked for you, so mayb ei'm making noise over nothing14:49
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hallynjodh: then again i'll raise a bug now15:01
hallynslangasek: I have a qemu-linaro package in ppa:serge-hallyn/virt which is built to enable virtfs (for 9pfs) in kvm-spice.  If/when you get a chance could you take a look and see if you're ok with it for quantal?15:02
slangasekjodh: if /dev/console isn't guaranteed to have that major,minor in a container, we should back out the checks except for pts/ptmx.15:10
hallynjodh: bug 103402315:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1034023 in upstart (Ubuntu) "add a nodevtmpfs option" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103402315:11
jodhslangasek: ok.15:11
hallynslangasek: /dev/tty doesn't (afaik) ever get messed with15:11
jodhhallyn: thanks15:11
hallynbut yeah if that gets backed out we don't need new options :)15:11
hallynthanks, ttyl15:11
slangasekhallyn: I have a bunch of work to do on qemu-linaro, which I'm going to try to get done this week15:12
jodhslangasek/hallyn: what about the mknods? remove the mknod(/dev/console) for lxc and keep the rest?15:16
slangasekjodh: yep15:16
hallynslangasek: ok, my patch is tiny so trivially portable.  I jsut wanted to test-build it to make sure it sufficed.  thanks15:18
jodhslangasek/hallyn: https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/upstart/bug-980917-the-bug-that-would-not-die/+merge/11857915:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 118579 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Unable to receive mail" [Medium,Invalid]15:23
jodhubottu: fail! ;)15:24
tkamppeterSomeone know how one generates the Release and Release.gpg files in a deb package archive?15:49
TJ-tkamppeter: I was reading about this earlier. apt-ftparchive release15:55
TJ-tkamppeter: I found it here: http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt#Setting_up_a_secure_apt_repository15:55
seb128Riddell, hi, can you update the lightdm packaging vcs with the diff of your update?16:02
seb128Riddell, there was a change pending upload there as well, any reason you didn't include it?16:03
Riddellseb128: mm sorry, I didn't notice it had a vcs branch, that was silly of me16:03
seb128Riddell, no worry, thanks for fixing it ;-)16:03
tkamppeterTJ, thank you very much.16:06
evmpt: how should errors with individual reports be handled in the multiple reports dialog?16:17
mptev, you mean the process names, stacktraces etc?16:17
evmpt: for example: "this problem report is damaged and cannot be processed", "the report belongs to a package that is not installed", or the generic "an error occurred while attempting to process this problem report"16:18
mptoh, errors in the reports themselves16:18
evyes16:19
mptev, so after you click either "Show Details" or "Continue", whoopsie discovers that sending the report will not be useful. Right?16:19
evyes16:20
evexactly at that point16:20
mptev, do you still want to send "something happened, but we don't know what" to the server for accounting purposes?16:21
mpte.g. to measure the percentage of malformed reports over time16:21
evyou know what, I'm just going to walk around this desk16:22
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mpt(Summary of desk conversation: we'll explain that the crash report was unreadable inside the details pane itself.)16:37
mptev, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker?action=diff&rev2=89&rev1=8816:39
infinitytjaalton: What's the status of the xserver transition in -proposed?16:39
evmpt: excellent, thanks16:40
evmpt: if there's only one report and it's corrupted, should that "send an error report" checkbox disappear?16:42
tjaaltoninfinity: there'll be a fixed nvidia upload tomorrow, then maybe xserver 1.13rc3 and another round of quick tests16:42
infinitytjaalton: Alright.  Are all the drivers (including universe ones) transitioned?16:43
mptev, I don't think so, because (a) that would shrink the alert possibly several seconds after you last clicked anything, and (b) you may eventually be sending as much as you know anyway16:44
evgood points16:44
evthanks16:44
tjaaltoninfinity: well, all the ones that xserver-video-all depends on it. I'll file an archive removal request for the rest, and check if there are others missing (like virtualbox..)16:45
infinitytjaalton: I don't see the ARM-specific ones there...16:46
infinitytjaalton: omap, msm-whateveritis, for instance.16:47
tjaaltoninfinity: ahh, duh16:47
tjaaltoninfinity: hmm actually, they probably need changes for the new abi, but I've no idea where to look for them16:48
* infinity sees at least:16:49
infinityxserver-xorg-video-msm16:49
infinityxserver-xorg-video-omap16:49
infinityxserver-xorg-video-omap316:49
infinityxserver-xorg-video-omapfb16:49
infinityFor binary packages depending on xorg-video-abi-1216:49
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infinitytjaalton: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1134575/16:50
infinitytjaalton: ^-- Might prove helpful?16:50
tjaaltoninfinity: maybe, if I knew how to read it :)16:51
tjaaltonI know which ones to get rid of16:51
tjaaltonok16:52
infinitytjaalton: Those are just strict binary dependencies on the old ABI on each arch and in each component.16:52
tjaaltonyeah16:52
infinity(-ivtv in multiverse seems to be another one I don't see in proposed)16:52
infinityUnless that's on the list of removals.16:52
tjaaltoninfinity: yeah, good point.. I do remember there being some issues with forgetting some of the drivers, so will be careful this time :)16:57
blitzkrieg3cyphermox: ping16:57
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ogra_http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/flash-kernel/flash-kernel_3.0~rc.4ubuntu15.dsc  416  Requested Range Not Satisfiable [IP: 141.30.13.10 80]17:45
ogra_wow17:45
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cyphermoxblitzkrieg3: pong.17:57
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cyphermoxsorry, I was out to lunch17:57
blitzkrieg3cyphermox: no problem at all18:01
blitzkrieg3cyphermox: I was wondering what our options are with the wpa enterprise bug18:02
blitzkrieg3bug 96934318:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 969343 in OEM Priority Project "Unable to connect to WPA enterprise wireless" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96934318:02
jocarterjono: so how is it that the next UDS is 4 days?18:03
blitzkrieg3cyphermox: I understand why you don't want to change the library in an LTS, but it seems like you can make it work if you disable the TICKET functionality in openssl18:03
cyphermoxblitzkrieg3: I've had a lot of trouble verifying that18:04
blitzkrieg3hmm, so you've been testing with enterprise wireless and everything works?18:04
cyphermoxthat said, I can give it a shot this afternoon again, just means I need to change locations18:04
cyphermoxblitzkrieg3: yeah, with my university network18:04
blitzkrieg3cyphermox: okay, that changes things18:05
cyphermoxit was WPA-PEAP, with MSCHAPv218:05
blitzkrieg3maybe we can get the same device that the OEM is using and verify18:05
cyphermoxyeah18:05
blitzkrieg3I don't doubt that it's a problem with the device, not with ubuntu, but either way it looks like a regression from a user point of view18:05
cyphermoxthat might help, but I suspect it won't change a think, the encryption shouldn't be hardware-specific, since it's done in openssl18:05
cyphermoxyup18:06
blitzkrieg3sounds like the hardware doesn't work well with new features, maybe it fails to account for stuff it doesn't know about18:06
blitzkrieg3cyphermox: I'll talk to the guy experiencing the issue, thanks for your help18:06
cyphermoxbut it's wifi hardware -- it doesn't need to know about encryption, just about pushing packets over the air and scanning18:07
blitzkrieg3so it's should be the software behind the AP that doesn't work?18:08
cyphermoxblitzkrieg3: it's more likely to be an issue with the hardware used as an AP / the authentication server, which possibly uses a very different, very old version of SSL18:08
cyphermoxyes18:08
blitzkrieg3got it, well we'll have to get those details then18:09
cyphermoxthat's been seen before -- I'm not against fixing it with changing the way wpasupplicant speaks to openssl, but I can't test this, so I'd rather not change things blindly18:09
cyphermoxcool18:09
blitzkrieg3cyphermox: of course, I'll get all the info/HW we need to reproduce it in house18:09
cyphermoxblitzkrieg3: great18:10
kalxashi all18:42
kalxasI am trying to customize a xubuntu iso based on this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization#Advanced_Customizations18:42
kalxasI was able to rebuild the initrd.lz file18:43
kalxasso that I have username and password set for the live session user18:44
kalxasbut I am not succeeding in changing the background image18:44
kalxascan please someone give a hint on that?18:45
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stgrabersuperm1: ping19:27
superm1hi stgraber19:27
stgrabersuperm1: you probably noticed that slangasek rejected your mythtv upload. He commented in bug 1029522 about it. Would be good if you could fix and re-upload soonish so we can have it in the point release.19:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1029522 in mythtv (Ubuntu Precise) "Newer version of MythTV fixing some major bugs needs an SRU" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102952219:28
superm1stgraber: ah okay sure19:29
slangaseksuperm1: oh, you are around, just not on #-release - sorry, was lookin' for ya :)19:29
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mterryzul, this is a pile of MIRs!  :-/20:12
zulmterry: sorry yeah i know20:12
zulmterry: on the good side most should be trivial :)20:12
mterryzul, haven't been bad so far20:13
zulmterry: all the new packages have been done with MIR in mind to make your life easier at least20:13
mterryzul, it's not relevant for these MIRs, but I notice you using debhelper 8 mode, instead of 9.  9's benefits are mostly cflags and multiarch related, so python doesn't care, but still.  Latest and greatest!20:13
zulmterry: yeah ill have a look again20:14
mterryzul, no reason to change unless you happen to be in the packages already.  Just something I noted, in case you missed compat mode 9 coming out  :)20:14
zulmterry: yeah thanks20:15
slangasekmterry, dupondje: have you seen the user comments in bug #1000356 that the bug isn't fixed?20:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1000356 in freerdp (Ubuntu Precise) "remmina/xfreerdp crashes while trying to use 'remote control'" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100035620:31
slangasekmterry, dupondje: unless there's something else I've overlooked, I believe this SRU should be removed from precise-proposed20:31
mterryslangasek, fair enough.  users certainly suggest it's not fixed20:33
slangasekmterry: yep.  libfreedp1 is the right binary package they need to upgrade for the fix, right?20:33
slangaseklibfreerdp120:33
mterryslangasek, I'm actually not sure off the top in which of the freerdp packages the fixed code lives.  But the same source package as libfreerdp1 yes20:36
slangasekmterry: well, I'm trying to pin it down to a binary package because there was some ambiguity on the part of the tester wrt which binaries they tested20:37
mterryslangasek, ok, let me see20:37
slangasekremmina-plugin-rdp only depends on libfreerdp1, so in the absence of other information to the contrary...20:37
mterryslangasek, yeah that's the package20:38
slangasekok20:38
slangasekverification-failed, then20:38
slangasektoo bad the test case requires windows :P20:38
dupondjehmz, highlight didn't work20:50
dupondjeanyway slangasek20:51
dupondjeit seems indeed its not completely fixed yet indeed. But the feedback is more then yes/no20:51
dupondjeremmina 1024x768 -> rdesktop 1024x768 - seems to work fine now20:51
dupondjeremmina 1024x768 -> rdesktop 800x600 - seems to work fine too20:51
dupondjein comment #1220:52
dupondjeso it seems to fix some cases, but not all20:52
slangasekdupondje: oh, somehow I overlooked that.  Do you want to follow up to the bug pointing this out, and set the tag to verification-done instead?21:07
dupondjeslangasek: done21:11
slangasekcheers21:11
dupondjestill freerdp should release a new version :( tons of things fixed/improved, but no new release yet21:12
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anveoIs this the correct channel for help with packaging?21:37
ScottKanveo: There are several possibilities depending on exactly what you're after.  This is one of them.21:38
anveoWell I'm trying to package the latest version of monit and put it in my ppa (which I just created) and I'm a little confused about the version string I'm supposed to use21:39
anveoI'm basically just taking the package which has been created for quantal, and making it work in lucid21:39
ScottKanveo: The best channel for that is #ubuntu-packaging.21:40
anveooh, perfect. Thanks!21:40
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bdrunghere's a partial sponsors queue: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bdrung/sponsoring/22:12
bdrung(the sponsors queue is hit by bug #1031764)22:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1031764 in Launchpad itself "timeout on code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103176422:13
stgrabermterry: just saw your comment on the watch file in ltsp-docs, it's indeed quite pointless when we're in sync with Debian, though in the past it was quite useful for all the other LTSP packages23:09
mterrystgraber, yar, I figured it was for backporting ubuntu updates and such23:10
stgrabermterry: LTSP doesn't do real "upstream" releases, instead whenever a distro wants a tarball, they tag it upstream. So the only place where you can find an "upstream" tarball is in the distros.23:10
mterrystgraber, just not a construction I've seen before  :)23:10
stgrabermterry: that's why we typically watch the Debian and Fedora package archive in Ubuntu and the Ubuntu and Fedora archive in Debian23:10
stgraberso uscan can try to see if there's a newer tarball "somewhere"23:11
mterryzul, is there a missing MIR for python-quantumclient23:17
mterry?23:17
zulmterry: im thinking python-cliff ill get to it tonight23:18
mterryzul, I'll pre-review it after python-clif23:24
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zulmterry: k23:29
mterryzul, ah, I found the quantumclient MIR bug.  I just didn't see that didrocks had already commented on it23:48
zulmterry: ah k23:49
ikepanhc@pilot in23:50
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