[00:21] <slangasek> ogasawara: hi, in doing the 12.04.1 prep, infinity has identified the linux-* packages as a source of size increase on the CDs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1133208/
[00:22] <slangasek> ogasawara: it's not a whole lot as a percentage, but it adds up and we're trying to lose another 1.7MB to get down to size.  Could someone from your team do some analysis for why the packages have grown since precise release, particularly for the header packages, and make sure this isn't a bug?
[05:42] <ppisati> moin
[11:51]  * henrix -> lunch
[13:44]  * apw swears at network manager ... this thing is just bust on precise
[13:45] <ohsix> what's it doing?
[13:46] <smb> Hm it seems quite stable to me (on Precise)
[13:46] <ohsix> the only problems i've had with it were phy states getting desynced (or something) with the broadcom wl driver
[13:48]  * smb notes that apw has maybe a slightly advanced network layout than most of us
[13:48] <apw> ohsix, it is becoming unresponsive, so that the icon is there you can click it but things like disconnect and reconnect have no effect
[13:48] <apw> ohsix, killing its ass and restarting it sometimes helps
[13:49] <ohsix> ah
[13:49] <ohsix> i've had that happen too, it's just the applet afair
[13:50] <ohsix> sometimes running rfkill block then rfkill unblock will shake the whole thing out of it, but i usually just kill nm-applet
[13:51] <ohsix> syslog has a record if the device is actually changing state, and nm-tool / nmcli can give you an obvious indication of the applet malfunctioning
[13:51] <apw> hateful thing
[13:52] <ogra_> it should pop up a few crash dislogs :)
[13:52] <ogra_> *dialogs
[14:47]  * ppisati disappears for a bit
[14:54]  * ogasawara back in 20
[15:54] <apw> tjaalton, was it you who was asking about bug #944386
[15:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 944386 in linux "Making a hard link of a 0444 permission file fails in overlayfs [Precise]" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/944386
[15:55] <tjaalton> apw: so it says, yes :)
[15:55] <tjaalton> guess I needed it for sbuild
[15:55] <apw> tjaalton, http://people.canonical.com/~apw/lp944386-quantal/ has some test kernels which could do with a poke
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[15:56] <tjaalton> apw: ah, thanks! I'll give them a go
[16:00] <smb> rtg, Darn, seems I have a habit of missing your added buglink when there is another link in the commit message... ignore my nitpicks on the emails
[16:09] <ppisati> kamal: stop abusing my poor tangerine...
[16:10] <kamal> ppisati: who me?  ;-)
[17:16] <jsalisbury> Home: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/ || Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Tues August 14th, 2012 - 17:00 UTC || If you have a question just ask, and do wait around for an answer!
[18:41]  * smb -> EOD
[18:54] <ppisati> and it compiles again... -> EOD
[19:44] <bjf> ogasawara: one less work item
[19:45] <ogasawara> bjf: sweet
[20:06] <mcgrof> any thoughts ?
[20:06] <mcgrof> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/8/7/489
[20:08] <bjf> mcgrof: it has been posted to our mailing list. i'm sure there will be some discussion there.