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[14:25] <smartboyhw> What meetings are here today? The calendar's changed to pm. s, so I now were confused.
[15:58] <jamespage> o/
[15:59] <hallyn> \o
[16:00]  * hallyn waits for a few more waves before starting
[16:01] <adam_g> o/
[16:01] <jimbaker> hi everyone
[16:01] <hallyn> good morning :)
[16:01] <hallyn> ooh we have utlemming too
[16:01] <hallyn> all right then i'll start
[16:01] <hallyn> #startmeeting
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[16:02] <hallyn> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
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[16:02] <hallyn> none
[16:02] <hallyn> #topic Quantal Development
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[16:02] <hallyn> jamespage: over to you :)
[16:02] <jamespage> ta
[16:02] <jamespage> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html
[16:02] <jamespage> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html
[16:02] <hallyn> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html
[16:03] <hallyn> hm
[16:03] <jamespage> I had a review earlier today - a few to focus in on
[16:03] <jamespage> utlemming,
[16:03] <jamespage> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-images
[16:03] <jamespage> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-awstools
[16:03] <jamespage> just a checkin to make sure you are comfortable/on track with those two
[16:04] <utlemming> yeah, one of the first, the motu's don'
[16:04] <jamespage> smoser, utlemming:
[16:04] <jamespage> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-init-utils
[16:04] <utlemming> want everything in debian, and there is a freeze in place
[16:05] <jamespage> utlemming, I'm sure kamal can get some new packages into unstable for you :-)
[16:05] <utlemming> on the cloud-image roundtable, that should be okay
[16:05] <smoser> jamespage, well, they're clearly behind and i'm sure some things will be postponed.
[16:06] <jamespage> Ursinha:
[16:06] <jamespage> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review
[16:06] <jamespage> we still need to catchup on that one - are you going to have some time for report updates etc?
[16:07] <jamespage> m_3, jimbaker:
[16:07] <jamespage> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests
[16:07] <jamespage> lots of stuff in progress - all OK?
[16:07] <jimbaker> jamespage, yes, we should be getting this connected up this week
[16:07] <Ursinha> jamespage, I've been working on reports, I need to catch up with you later
[16:07] <jamespage> jimbaker, great!
[16:08] <jamespage> Ursinha, fantastic
[16:08] <jamespage> sounds like things are moving along
[16:08] <jimbaker> i have the first goaround in terms of running manually with a nice DSL in bash
[16:08] <jimbaker> then hook up to m_3's charmtester charm
[16:08] <jamespage> remember feature freeze is on the 23 august (~2 weeks) - so any new stuff targetting main ideally needs to be in archive by then
[16:09] <jamespage> otherwise you have to beg for feature freeze exceptions....
[16:09] <jimbaker> jamespage, that's been my fate in the past on the juju project :)
[16:09] <jimbaker> but time to squeeze it all in!
[16:09] <jamespage> \o/ - great
[16:10] <jamespage> so keep on updating blueprints as you complete stuff - helps keep overall track on progress
[16:10] <jamespage> so - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:10] <jamespage> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:10] <jamespage> hallyn, bot does not like me for some reason
[16:10] <jimbaker> jamespage, cool, m_3 and i were discussing this very stuff yesterday re blueprint updating
[16:10] <hallyn> jamespage: link didn't work for me either
[16:11] <hallyn> #LINK http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:11] <hallyn> [LINK] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:11] <hallyn> <shrug>
[16:11] <jamespage> OK - so zul and adam_g have a few bugs in quantum and horizon in hand
[16:11] <zul> to say the least
[16:11] <hallyn> uh, MIR for netcf is not on the list
[16:11] <jamespage> we still need a volunteer to look at bug 844995
[16:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 844995 in python-couchdb (Ubuntu) "Drop support for couchdb related packages" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/844995
[16:12] <jamespage> any takers?
[16:13] <jamespage> (I'll sponsor it if someone wanted to have a first stab at some packaging updates...)
[16:13] <jamespage> hallyn, netcf - I'll need to subscribe ubuntu-server to the package for bugs - then it will appear
[16:13] <jamespage> looks like we have *alot* of MIR's in flight
[16:13] <hallyn> jamespage: great, thanks
[16:14] <jamespage> hallyn, done
[16:14] <hallyn> \o/  we'll wnat that anyway
[16:15] <jamespage> if you are raising MIR's please can you set a priority on the bug reports; at a minimum it helps prioritize focus for the MIR team
[16:15] <jamespage> should probably reflect the priority of the associated blueprint - remember you can link bugs to blueprints as well so they can be tracked on status.ubuntu.com
[16:16] <jamespage> any other quantal dev stuff anyone wants to raise?
[16:17] <hallyn> (i'll wait until smb's section :)
[16:17] <jamespage> hallyn, I think thats me done then
[16:17] <hallyn> thanks!
[16:17]  * smb shudders
[16:17] <hallyn> #topic 12.04.1 Development (jamespage & smoser)
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[16:17] <hallyn> uh, and straight back to you? :)
[16:17] <jamespage> unless smoser wants the spot :-)
[16:17] <hallyn> smoser: \o
[16:17] <smoser> hey
[16:18] <smoser> so. basically the target for 12.04.1 is thursday
[16:18] <rbasak> o/
[16:18] <smoser> if you're not going to have something in by then, then you should really consider it not in for 12.04.1 and retarget anything to -updates.
[16:18] <smoser> thats my general comment
[16:18] <hallyn> and http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/precise-sru.html is the definitive list?
[16:18] <jamespage> yeah - thats a good source
[16:19]  * jamespage must get the integrated somewhere more formal
[16:19] <smoser> do you have anything specific, jamespage ?
[16:19] <jamespage> we need to nudge walinuxagent forwards but aside from that I think we are in an OK place
[16:21] <hallyn> moving along then,
[16:21] <hallyn> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
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[16:21] <hallyn> i assume quite a few people going to plumber's and associated events?
[16:22] <hallyn> or not :)
[16:22] <hallyn> any other events to mention?
[16:22] <hallyn> moving along,
[16:22] <hallyn> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
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[16:22] <hallyn> hey hggdh
[16:23] <smoser> hallyn, are you going to plumbers?
[16:23] <hallyn> smoser: i am not :(
[16:23]  * smb is
[16:24] <hallyn> no hggdh , moving along
[16:24] <hallyn> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
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[16:24] <hallyn> hey smb
[16:24] <smb> hey hallyn
[16:24] <smb> So wassup?
[16:24] <jimbaker> i am presenting juju at 3 separate events around boulder in the next 3 months: boulder lug, big data meetup (focused on zookeeper and how we use it, along w/ hadoop, etc), and the national center for atmospheric research
[16:24] <hallyn> my q was on bug 1031090
[16:24] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1031090 in linux (Ubuntu) "kvm_intel not loadable in a quantal guest" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031090
[16:24] <smb> Not much to bring up specifically. The failure to load the kvm intel module is in progress. The upstream discussion is/was mostly on how/where to fix it (the right way). But rather will need to go into precise.
[16:24] <hallyn> is the fix for that known, or are you just saying "when someone whips up a fix we'll take it"?
[16:25] <hallyn> but precise is on 3.2 i thought?
[16:25]  * smb notes he was about to say something about tit
[16:25] <smb> hallyn, Right, the problem is that loading the modules checks a msr for a feature which any real cpu would have
[16:25] <hallyn> (jimbaker is a travelin' fool)
[16:25] <hallyn> smb: right but i thought one comment said it was introduced in 3.3
[16:25] <smb> but the older kvm modules did not set it for the nested case
[16:26] <smb> hallyn, Introduced yes as in adding the support for that feature
[16:26] <smb> but upstream thinks rather than handling the non-presence (which should not happen) in newer coder
[16:26] <smb> *code
[16:26] <hallyn> ah
[16:26] <smb> the old code should add it
[16:27] <smb> And I think 3.2 is about the only kernel that supports nesting and misses it
[16:27] <hallyn> we were never at war with eurasia, and that bug was never there
[16:27] <smb> Could be wrong though, then it needs backport to before
[16:28] <hallyn> smb: if we were to add itot the old code, is it simple to do?  should we just do it to hit 12.04.1?
[16:28] <hallyn> eh, let's discuss in -server after the meeting?
[16:28] <smb> hallyn, ok, it would be simplish (hopefully safe)
[16:28] <hallyn> great, thanks
[16:28] <smb> hallyn, but yeah, lets move this on
[16:28] <hallyn> any other questions for smb?
[16:29] <hallyn> from smb? :)
[16:29] <smb> nothing mmore
[16:29] <hallyn> thanks smb.  moving on,
[16:29] <hallyn> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
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[16:29] <rbasak> Nothing to report. Any questions for me?
[16:30] <jimbaker> rbasak, i assume good outcome of the java mtg i missed when i was on vac?
[16:30] <rbasak> Yeah I think so
[16:30]  * rbasak tries to remember
[16:30] <rbasak> I think jamespage was more involved in that than I was
[16:30] <jamespage> jimbaker, ok-ish
[16:31] <jimbaker> no worries, i *might* have some insight on any java issues
[16:31] <jamespage> still no java 7 JVM implementation - soon!
[16:32] <hallyn> moving on?
[16:32] <jimbaker> so there are good results posted on the openjdk for java 7 on arm. anyway, i'll need to get onto arm hw soon enough for the testing doing w/ m_3
[16:32] <jimbaker> so look then too
[16:33] <hallyn> any bounds on 'soon enough'?
[16:34] <jamespage> hallyn, not really - it has focus upstream but the invoke-dynamic stuff is proving complex to implement
[16:34] <hallyn> ok
[16:34] <hallyn> #topic Open Discussion
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[16:35] <jamespage> I have one for next week - I invited gema from the QA team to come and give us an overview of whats happing in QA this cycle
[16:35] <hallyn> cool
[16:35] <jamespage> specifically the new testing framework (UTAH) and how we can get more involved with test cases etc...
[16:36] <hallyn> yup, i still need to do that for lxc testcases
[16:36] <hallyn> (this might nudge me along)
[16:36] <hallyn> anything else?
[16:36] <hallyn> going twice,
[16:36] <hallyn> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
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[16:37] <hallyn> Tuesday Aug 14, same time as always
[16:37] <hallyn> thanks everyone
[16:37] <hallyn> #endmeeting
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[16:37] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Aug  7 16:37:24 2012 UTC.
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[16:37] <jamespage> thanks hallyn
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Aug  7 17:00:11 2012 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Quantal
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:00] <ppisati> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <kamal> o/
[17:00] <herton> o/
[17:00] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <smb> \o
[17:00] <apw> o/
[17:01] <ogasawara> o/
[17:01] <sconklin> \o
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
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[17:01] <ppisati> Q/omap4: porting of tilt-3.4 [1] on top of Q 3.5 master continues.
[17:01] <ppisati> The resulting kernel is available here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ppisati/ubuntu-quantal.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ti-omap4-tilt-34-on-35
[17:01] <ppisati> The entire patchset is available at http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/ti-omap4-tilt-34-on-35/tilt-3.4/
[17:01] <ppisati> The "done" directory contains the patches i already ported(1054), "skipped" contains the patches left for later evaluation(29) and "already" contains the patches found upstream(59) - so far 1142 out of 1708 patches were handled, work is progressing nicely.
[17:01] <ppisati> [1]: http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/andygreen/kernel-tilt.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/tilt-3.4
[17:01] <ppisati> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
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[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:02] <ogasawara> ogra_: ^^ just fyi, see ppisati's status
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
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[17:02]  * ogra_ hugs ppisati 
[17:02] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.10-beta-1.html
[17:02] <ogra_> (and ogasawara )
[17:02] <ogasawara> || apw         || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 3 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 4 work items ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-versions-and-flavors || 1 work item ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||             || desktop-q-clean-old-kernels     || 1 work item ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || bjf         || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || cking       || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || ogasawara   || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 4 work items ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || tgardner    || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> If your name is in the above table, please review your Beta-1 work items.
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara)
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[17:03] <ogasawara> We've recently uploaded the 3.5.0-8.8 Quantal kernel to the release
[17:03] <ogasawara> pocket. This upload includes misc bug fixes, upstream feature enablement
[17:03] <ogasawara> for Intel HW, and a sync of AUFS (even though we plan to keep it
[17:03] <ogasawara> disabled atm).  This was also uploaded to the q-lts-backport [1] PPA to
[17:03] <ogasawara> help facilitate testing of the 12.10 kernel in 12.04.  We welcome anyone
[17:03] <ogasawara> to please install, test, and let us know your feedback.
[17:03] <ogasawara> [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport
[17:03] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:03] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Aug 30 - Beta 1 (~3 weeks)
[17:03] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)
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[17:03] <sconklin> == 2012-08-07 (weekly) ==
[17:03] <sconklin> Currently we have 96 CVEs on our radar, with one CVE retired this week.
[17:03] <sconklin> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:03] <sconklin> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:03] <sconklin> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix)
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[17:04] <henrix> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (August 07):
[17:04] <henrix>  
[17:04] <henrix>  * Hardy - Nothing in this cycle
[17:04] <henrix>  * Lucid - In Testing; 2 CVEs; (16 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Natty - In Testing; 3 CVEs; (6 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Oneiric - In Testing; 2 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (101 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Precise - In Testing; 3 CVEs; 3 upstream stable release(s); (212 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  
[17:04] <henrix> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:04] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:04] <henrix>  
[17:04] <henrix> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:04] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:04] <henrix>  
[17:04] <henrix> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:04] <henrix>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock
[17:04] <henrix>  
[17:04] <henrix> The week of Sept. 6 is the week the last Natty kernel will be built.
[17:04] <henrix> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
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[17:05] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:05] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
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[17:05] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Aug  7 17:05:25 2012 UTC.
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[17:05] <kamal> thanks jsalisbury