[02:46] <MoleMan> for internal purposes, is it possible to configure bind9 for DNS records that are just a single word? would you have to create each as a seperate zone or something? or is it not possible
[02:51] <lifeless> you could make them all top level entries, but its -much- more common to set a local domain such as .local, or use split horizon on your company domain
[02:51] <lifeless> less likely to run into odd things that way
[02:57] <MoleMan> yeah, I came to the conclusion that I couldn't be bothered manually creating the zones for each one, so I resorted to making a domain to use... then moved back to considering buying a domain, and some cheap web-hosting... #fail
[03:00] <MoleMan> would I be correct in presuming that in DNS records @ is the equivalent of a wildcard * / the value for the main domain?
[03:03] <ScottK> No.
[03:03] <ScottK> Wildcard and value for the main domain aren't the same thing.
[03:04] <ScottK> @ is the main domain.
[03:06] <MoleMan> okay,
[03:07] <MoleMan> is there a way to set invalid/unspecified subdomains redirect to the main, in a wildcard type manner?
[03:11] <ScottK> Yes.
[03:11] <ScottK> But it requires reading documentation.
[03:15] <nathwill> hey maskilpdx, you around?
[03:53]  * MoleMan is about ready to just purge bind9
[04:14] <erichammond> After many years of running bind8/9, I finally turned over my DNS work to Amazon Route53.  They served almost 50 million DNS hits for my personal servers last month.
[08:25] <AdvoWork> I'm booting my VM of Ubuntu 12.04 Server and I think it's not booting due to mounts in /etc/fstab. Is there a way I can edit the /etc/fstab from the grub> menu? I get the option to boot into normal mode, recovery mode, any suggestions please? I've got access via a VPN.
[08:25] <Jeeves_> AdvoWork: You can try booting with init=/bin/sh
[08:32] <AdvoWork> Jeeves_, before I read that, ive booted into recovery mode, and got a root console up, im trying to change /etc/fstab but it says its read only. so i tried sudo vim /etc/fstab  same, any idea how I can change etc/fstab?
[08:33] <Jeeves_> AdvoWork: mount -o remount,rw /
[08:33] <Jeeves_> vi /etc/fstab
[08:33] <Jeeves_> mount -o remount,ro /
[08:33] <Jeeves_> reboot
[08:37] <AdvoWork> Jeeves_, but when I did vim /etc/fstab it said it was readonly and wouldnt save my changes :S
[08:38] <Jeeves_> AdvoWork: Thats because the filesystem is mounted read-only
[08:38] <Jeeves_> That's why you need to remount,rw
[08:38] <AdvoWork> ahh, so do:  mount -o remount,rw / first, or do i need to be in a certain location to do that?
[08:40] <jpds_> AdvoWork: Yes, and no.
[09:02] <AdvoWork> Jeeves_, jpds i've gotta say "Thanks" that solve my issue, and my server now boots up! Thanks loads
[09:07] <koolhead17> hi all
[09:09] <basil60> any chance of getting some advice re ubuntu 11.04 and a a web server that tests as working, but I can't see any pages? It worked fine till a week ago, when electricians turned off my power. Since then, I haven't been able to see any web pages. I've run tests, that show it's "up", but I can' t see anything. I admit to being a linux noob, but I have been able to configure and keep it running till the electrical shutdown. I'd like a
[09:17] <AdvoWork> On my Ubuntu 12.04 I have mounts(that are like: //IP/share /home/whatever cifs exec) which I know work fine, but when I do sudo mount -a they ask for a password, if i press enter it accepts it, and the shares seem to work fine, but because of asking for those passwords, it stops the server booting up.Any ideas please?
[09:33] <adac> trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 bit i do geht this:
[09:33] <adac> sudo do-release-upgrade --proposed
[09:33] <adac> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[09:33] <adac> No new release found
[09:33] <adac> any ideas?
[09:37] <basil60> thanks guys..I'll try again later
[09:37] <basil60> ciao
[09:38] <jpds> adac: -d ?
[09:39] <adac> jpds, ah I see the first point release has not been relesased yet
[09:43] <rbasak> AdvoWork: see mount.cifs(8). I think you want the guest option.
[10:06] <stiv2k> hello
[10:07] <stiv2k> is there any utility to configure what the power buttons and stuff do on a headless ubuntu server
[10:07] <stiv2k> i'd like to be able to suspend/wake my boinc cluster computers easily by pressing the button
[10:07] <stiv2k> and eventually also on schedule via WOL
[10:08] <rbasak> stiv2k: start from /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn
[10:11] <stiv2k> rbasak eh
[10:13] <stiv2k> rbasak i dont know how to edit those
[12:22] <Sprocks> !autoconf
[12:23] <Sprocks> im looking for how to acquire and install autoconf so that i may install something from github can anyone help?
[12:23] <soren> Wrong channel.
[12:23] <RoyK> Sprocks: apt-get install autotools
[12:24] <RoyK> !autotools
[12:24] <Sprocks> !autotools
[12:24] <patdk-wk> !autoanswer
[12:24] <Sprocks> unable to find autotools is the message i got
[12:25] <AdvoWork> can I somehow see what groups a user belongs to?
[12:25] <Pici> AdvoWork: use 'groups $username'
[12:25] <Pici> RoyK: does autotools-dev provide what Sprocks needs?
[12:26] <Sprocks> !autotools-dev
[12:26] <Pici> !info autotools-dev
[12:26] <RoyK> Pici: guess so
[12:26] <Sprocks> nope it doesnt seem to
[12:27] <Sprocks> im really trying to get aclocal and i was told it is in autoconf
[12:27] <Pici> !info autoconf
[12:29] <Sprocks> think i found it, package automake
[12:30] <Sprocks> that worked, thanks for help guys found what i needed
[12:32] <Pici> great
[12:37] <Sprocks> also needed build-essential package as well
[12:38] <Lachezar> Hello all... I am fiddling with Ubuntu Server and Java. How come the OpenJDK-7 JDK have so humonstrous dependencies? Most have to do with Gnome...
[12:40] <Lachezar> Can't I install OpenJDK-7 with OpenJDK-7-JRE-Headless only?
[12:44] <Sprocks> how do i fix "error: possibly undefined macro: AC_CHECK_LIB" ?
[12:47] <RoyK> anyone here tried to use a qlogic iscsi hba with ubuntu?
[12:49] <jamespage> smoser, is utlemming around this week?  I've not managed to catch him either yesterday or today
[12:49] <smoser> i dont know.  others have pinged me looking for him also.
[12:49] <smoser> i dont recall that he was out.
[12:50] <jamespage> smoser, calender says not - I'll see if arosales knows
[12:50] <smoser> yeah
[12:51] <rbasak> Sprocks: try looking into autoreconf
[12:58] <smb> roaksoax, Would you have some time for some questions about the IPMI issue (and would you be ok talking here?)
[13:00] <roaksoax> smb: yeah definitely
[13:00] <roaksoax> smb: so I have been reading the manual (as I didn
[13:01] <roaksoax> smb: so I have been reading the manual (as I didn't put the cards into the servers), and i should be able to access to it without doing anything special
[13:01] <smb> roaksoax, If those follow the modes that my supermicro board does you only need the drivers to access it without net locally
[13:02] <smb> roaksoax, There are also modes which connect via net to the bmc and those would not need the drivers at all
[13:03]  * ppetraki o/
[13:04]  * smb was just trying to find out whether net connections would work
[13:04] <roaksoax> smb: yeah, so everything works like a charm
[13:04] <roaksoax> smb: I can access the WebUI, the lan protocol is configured
[13:04] <roaksoax> smb: everything works as expected but trying to access it locally
[13:06] <roaksoax> smb: so my issue seems to be better explained here: http://bodgitandscarper.co.uk/centos/hp-microserver-remote-management-card/
[13:07] <smb> roaksoax, Ok so that then might be some bios problem
[13:07] <smb> roaksoax, Have you tried with the alternate address as well?
[13:08] <roaksoax> smb: testing now
[13:12] <cwesterfield> anyone know how to get past this configure error "configure: error: Package requirements (libcrypto) were not met:"
[13:13] <roaksoax> smb: doesn't seem to be solved
[13:14] <smb> roaksoax, and dmesg prints the alternate address? Second thing to check would be your manual (whether they have a different default address)
[13:15] <roaksoax> smb: seems to be exactly this "IPMI KCS interface is at 0xCA2 in memory, not 0xCA8 that the kernel is trying to probe"
[13:17] <roaksoax> smb: alright, so a reboot did it
[13:17] <smb> roaksoax, Ah, maybe the module was still loaded with the wrong address
[13:18] <roaksoax> smb: yeah, apparently so. So it would be a BIOS issue then? not the kernel for trying to probe a different address?
[13:18] <smb> roaksoax, Right, as the blog said the address comes from the smbios
[13:18] <roaksoax> smb: alright then. I'll try to update and see my findings. Thanks for the help :)
[13:19] <smb> roaksoax, NP, one issue gone is a good issue... :)
[13:19] <roaksoax> indeed :)
[14:04] <RoyK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1134307/ <-- anyone that can help me out with an iSCSI problem? Trying with software initiator now, after a rather large amount of problems with Qlogic HBA on Ubuntu, but still no luck - I can connect to the same target from a Centos 5.8 machine without problems
[14:15] <thisismyname> hiu there, qestion: is it possible to assign multiple ethernet interfaces with vmbuilder? Or whats best practise for handling this?
[14:36] <RoyK> !bug 1034015
[14:43] <jamespage> zul: did bug 1025203 ever make it into the archive?
[14:43] <zul> jamespage: not yet.
[14:43] <jamespage> zul, are you in it? i.e. can I assign you the bug?
[14:44] <jamespage> on it rather....
[14:44] <zul> jamespage, sure
[14:44] <jamespage> zul, ta
[14:56] <AdvoWork> How can I change a folder with permissions drwxrwsrwx to: drwxrwxrwx ?
[14:58] <cwesterfield> Is there a webserver app or plugin that would allow you to traverse folders on a server and then download entire folders? (maybe auto zip them)
[15:07] <ahs3> hallyn: dude.  netcf got uploaded last night.  go nuts :).
[15:08] <hallyn> ahs3: saw that around midnight - thanks!
[15:15] <jamespage> roaksoax, sorry - just realised that we agreed you would add that note to cobbler about unauth'ed calls
[15:15] <jamespage> and I closed out your bug
[15:15]  * jamespage reprimands himself for trying to be to tidy....
[15:15] <roaksoax> JoeVLcek: no worries :)
[15:16] <roaksoax> jamespage: i had forgettong it so closing it reminded me
[15:16] <jamespage> roaksoax, lol
[15:16] <jamespage> zul, I just merges openvswitch from Debian unstable as requested in MIR - lots of fixes
[15:16] <jamespage> are we using it in the test lab for openstack yet?
[15:17] <zul> jamespage, cool not yet
[15:17] <zul> jamespage: im thinking we need juju charms for quantum first
[15:17] <zul> jamespage: i would bug adam_g about it
[15:18] <jamespage> zul, sure - I'll bug adam_g then :-)
[15:18] <jamespage> I think it might co-exist with the nova-compute charm
[15:18] <jamespage> but not sure...
[15:25] <JoeVLcek> roaksoax: did you mean jamespage: no worries ;)
[15:26] <roaksoax> JoeVLcek: yeah, sorry :)
[15:27] <JoeVLcek> roaksoax: no worries ;)
[15:27] <JoeVLcek> roaksoax: just wanted to make sure you didn't need me to pay attention to something. ;) back to sleep I go. ;)
[15:31] <hallyn> ahs3: say, looking at the debian netcf-0.2.0, it seems you re-added some old patches from 0.1.9?  (or some tool did)
[15:32] <hallyn> they're not applied, but they're in debian/patches/
[15:34] <ahs3> hallyn: hrm.  probably did not specifically remove them from my branch; i shouldn't do these late at night :(....
[15:37] <hallyn> ahs3: is updating the Standards-Version to 3.9.3. the only change you purposely made?
[15:37] <ahs3> hallyn: yup
[15:37] <hallyn> cool, thanks.  (then i can upload to q)
[15:37] <ahs3> and only 'cause lintian whined about it
[15:37] <hallyn> i'm always afraid of changing those bc i'm afraid i may be lying that i'm compatible with the new version :)
[15:38] <ahs3> heh
[16:03] <joe_Vitel> Does anyone have any experience setting up Ubuntu with MAAS? I'm having some weird time issues when trying to add nodes.
[16:13] <hallyn> roaksoax: would you mind terribly pushing http://people.canonical.com/~serge/netcf6/netcf_0.2.0-1ubuntu1.dsc ?  I don't seem to have rights
[16:18] <roaksoax> hallyn: sure
[16:20] <rbasak> jamespage: why doesn't bug 850960 appear on your SRU list? What criteria is it missing?
[16:21] <jamespage> rbasak, server team might not be subscribed to that package
[16:21] <rbasak> Ah, I see.
[16:21] <rbasak> Thanks
[16:25] <roaksoax> hallyn: is this a sync+applying changes? cause all the previous ubuntu changelog is gone
[16:26] <hallyn> roaksoax: yes, a sync with a single change, to switch the libnl desp from libnl1 to libnl3
[16:26] <hallyn> no ubuntu changes remain
[16:26] <roaksoax> hallyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1134531/
[16:26] <roaksoax> hallyn: that's how changelogs should probably look like in this kind of case
[16:29] <roaksoax> hallyn: I'll make that change and upload
[16:39] <hallyn> roaksoax: oh right, sync not merge.  thx
[16:40] <roaksoax> hallyn: :) done!
[16:40] <hallyn> smb: so bug 1031090, is there any reason not to update precise kernel to set the bit?
[16:40] <jimbaker> the tricks of memory, that would be the sun version of jdk 7 i was remembering, https://blogs.oracle.com/jtc/entry/comparing_jvms_on_arm_linux
[16:41] <smb> hallyn, Mostly that I have not gotten a feedback on the final version of that. And the worry to break anything in case of setting the flag but not adding real support.
[16:42] <smb> hallyn, I did some tests and I think it is ok now, but getting it into a precise update with cutoff on this thursday is rather hard now.
[16:43] <hallyn> yeah
[16:43] <smb> There is no upload planned beside of what was in verification testing.
[16:43] <hallyn> well i guess a later kernel update is fine, this won't break server installs for ppl right?
[16:43] <hallyn> so perhaps 12.04.1 isn't so important
[16:43] <smb> No this is a sole problem of a nested installation
[16:44] <hallyn> and hopefully after instll, ppl will first update before setting up vms
[16:44] <smb> hallyn, Yo won't have problems running a first level vm
[16:44] <zaitzev> hi all
[16:44] <smb> Just to create another vm in your first vm is broken
[16:45] <joe_Vitel> Can anyone figure why I would be getting the (Apache) error: "[Tue Aug 07 10:42:36 2012] [error] Expired timestamp: given 1344336205 and now 1344357756 has a greater difference than threshold 300"? NTP is running and the hardware clock is correct. I don't know where to look next...
[16:45] <hallyn> smb: right, but so if someone installs from 12.04.1 cd and immediately tries to run a guest they'll fail to run kvm in guest.  not so bad.
[16:45] <hallyn> smb: thanks
[16:45] <zaitzev> perhaps one of you can help me out a little here? I'm looking for a way to add a user to my server that has ftp read/write access to another users' home directory
[16:46] <hallyn> ok, resetting networking for tftp, hopefully i'm back in a min
[16:47] <smb> hallyn, Right, yeah and also they can do precise-precise but not precise-quantal (quantal-quantal would work as well)
[16:47] <hallyn> and worst case they just don't get nested acceleration
[16:47] <hallyn> so i'll go focus onanother qemu bug :)
[16:47] <smb> hallyn, :)
[16:51] <joe_Vitel> zaitzev: you could add the new user to the existing user's group and grant that group read/write access. Don't know if that is the best solution, but it's a solution
[16:52] <zaitzev> joe_Vitel: Does the new user have to have a home directory on its own or something?
[16:53] <joe_Vitel> I wouldn't think, though usually adding a new user will create a home for them
[16:53] <zaitzev> I tried adduser with no home dir, and I think I did add him to the group of the first user
[16:53] <zaitzev> but I couldn't do much..
[16:54] <joe_Vitel> zaitzev: Of course, I'm not a big FTP person. I don't know if your FTP users are the same as system users
[16:54] <zaitzev> truth be told, I only have myself and a close friend using this server
[16:55] <zaitzev> however, I'm running a Counter-Strike server that my brother plays on a lot, and he wants to be able to edit, configure and mess around with the CS:S server files
[16:56] <zaitzev> but I do not want to give him the user/pass to the account that runs the server
[16:57] <zaitzev> and, I'm not very familiar with the whole user/group system..
[16:59] <joe_Vitel> zaitzev: I would suggest creating a system user account, grant him permissions to modify the folders/files and then hand him the IP to SSH to, no FTP required
[17:08] <zaitzev> joe_Vitel: what would the parameters be? Just add a normal user, and add him to the group the first user is in?
[17:18] <joe_Vitel> zaitzev: Yes. The command you'll use is chmod to modify the permissions for the folder. I don't know the permissions off the top of my head, but Google should be able to help you.
[17:19] <zaitzev> joe_Vitel: so far what I did was create the new user, added to the group of the first user (the default usergroup). However the new user cannot do anything in the directory.
[17:20] <zaitzev> I would've thought it worked, but no
[17:21] <joe_Vitel> ls -lh will show you the permissions (probably something along the lines of drwxr-xr-x). r means read, w means write, x means execute
[17:21] <hallyn> stgraber: hey, i wouldn't do it today, but pls let me know if you have any objections to my putting seccomp into quantal's lxc (using my patch from two weeks ago)
[17:21] <zaitzev> joe_Vitel: Yeah I know, and the folder containing the gameserver has these permissions: drwxrwxr-x
[17:22] <zaitzev> so the new user SHOULD be able to do whatever within that folder, but that doesn't work
[17:22] <joe_Vitel> for user/group your username? and you're sure new user is in group you username?
[17:23] <stgraber> hallyn: no objection
[17:23] <zaitzev> oh wait, never mind, I was in the user home directory which apparently doesn't allow the new user to do anything
[17:23] <zaitzev> my bad :)
[17:24] <zaitzev> next step would be to symlink that folder into the new users home dir
[17:24] <zaitzev> since the ftp server is jailed to the user homedir, a symlink is needed.
[17:25] <zaitzev> but when I make one it doesn't appear in the ftp :P
[17:25] <joe_Vitel> There is probably a config option somewhere in your ftp server to follow symlinks
[17:26] <zaitzev> I don't remember how it was done..I have a symlink on MY user in MY homedir, showing up in the ftp
[17:27] <zaitzev> I thought it was ln -s target linkname
[17:28] <plm> people, how I know when the ubunut was installed? are there a file where are indicate this, like as /etc/lsb-release?
[17:29] <hallyn> stgraber: great
[17:30] <plm> anyone?
[17:31] <zaitzev> plm: try this:
[17:31] <zaitzev> ls -al /var/log/installer/syslog
[17:31] <zaitzev> the date of the file should reflect the date the system was installed
[17:35] <plm> zaitzev: thanks
[17:42] <zaitzev> maybe I should use mount instead of symlink
[18:05] <joe_Vitel> Can anyone make sense of the apache error "Expired timestamp: given 1344340094 and now 1344361645 has a greater difference than threshold 300" when trying to add a node to Ubuntu MAAS? ntp is running and the hardware clock is correct.
[18:09] <rbasak> joe_Vitel: it looks like one of the clocks is off by six hours. Do you have the hardware clock set to UTC?
[18:10] <joe_Vitel> rbasak: Yes, and changing it doesn't seem to make a difference. It's always roughly 21k seconds difference
[18:10] <rbasak> joe_Vitel: what about the maas server?
[18:10] <rbasak> joe_Vitel: what time zone are you in?
[18:10] <joe_Vitel> America/Denver
[18:10] <joe_Vitel> MST, UTC - 7 I believe
[18:11] <rbasak> it does sound suspiciously like a local time / UTC problem
[18:11] <joe_Vitel> My thoughts as well, but I can't seem to narrow down where what is getting the wrong time zone
[18:11] <rbasak> check "date --utc" on the maas server
[18:11] <joe_Vitel> Tue Aug  7 18:11:42 UTC 2012
[18:12] <joe_Vitel> +6 hours from local time
[18:12] <rbasak> I'm stumped then, sorry. Try #maas
[18:13] <joe_Vitel> Yeah, kind of where I'm sitting too. It SHOULD work, but... doesn't... Thanks for the help though.
[18:13] <rbasak> Perhaps manually skew the hardware clock by six hours?
[18:13] <joe_Vitel> Yeah, was thinking of giving that a try.
[18:16] <shiman6> on ubuntu server 12.04 (x64), eth0 stops transmitting during a multicast session. I have to restart the server to use eth0 again
[18:21] <shiman6> wow, this chat is dead
[18:31] <shiman6> Anybody active?
[18:31] <Pici> Yes, but I don't know the answer to your question.
[18:32] <shiman6> Okay. Is there any known issues regarding clonezilla?
[18:32] <shiman6> the clonezilla channel is completely empty, so i have to ask here
[18:42] <druonysus> I am trying to set up nagiosgrapher on ubuntu 12.04 in aws. does the nagiosgrapher package do any basic configuration of nagiosgrapher?
[18:42] <druonysus> I see there is a template directory but nothing is in it
[18:50] <SpamapS> http://grza.net/GIS/Admiral%20Ackbar%20SNMP%20Notifications.jpg
[18:58] <soren> SpamapS: SNMP does seem rather alien.
[18:59] <SpamapS> yes, if aliens are lax about security and like multiple unnecessary layers of indirection :)
[19:05] <soren> SpamapS: They love that stuff.
[19:07] <SpamapS> soren: really if you think about it long enough that *totally* explains the turning-cows-inside-out obsession
[19:15] <adam_g> zul: why'd you skip those failing keystone tests? what was causing the failure? was just about to lookat it
[19:15] <zul> adam_g: i think it was do to keystone running in a chroot, if you want to take a crack at them without skipping them be my guyest
[19:16] <zul> people still use net-snmp? how quaint
[19:20] <adam_g> hmm
[19:35] <hallyn> zul: any opinion on bug 1030612 ?  moving those to recommends will still get them auto-installed unless user shouts, so maybe it's fine?
[19:35] <zul> hallyn: i dont have a problem with dnsmasq but libavhi?
[19:37] <hallyn> zul: i don't even know what libvirt uses that for
[19:38] <zul> hallyn: neither do i
[19:38] <zul> hallyn, must be for some name discovery destopy stuff..
[19:38] <zul> smoser: do you have any problems with above? ^^^
[19:39] <smoser> well, the bug description says they're undesirable.
[19:39] <smoser> so i have a feeling i dont want them
[19:39] <smoser> :)
[19:39] <resno> question for you folks. if you had a small businness idea, would you start in a vps or host from home?
[19:40] <smoser> resno, vps.
[19:40] <smoser> (or ec2)
[19:40] <smoser> hallyn, if it functions with those not isntalled, i think i see no objection.
[19:40] <resno> just to much hassle to host at home or not cost effective? smoser
[19:40] <resno> or is speed the issue?
[19:41] <hallyn> smoser: well, depends on what 'functions' means.  virbr0 won't work (no dnsmasq-base)
[19:41] <hallyn> so it'll end up with a different setup with and without those
[19:41] <ScottK> resno: Reliablity.
[19:41] <ScottK> Unless you have redundant power and network connections to your home.
[19:42] <smoser> resno, what ScottK said mostly.
[19:42] <smoser> hallyn, is virbr0 broken?
[19:42] <smoser> or just no dnsmasq on it
[19:43] <hallyn> smoser: actually not sure - i suspect libvirt might fail to start (with virbr0 set to autostart) bc of it
[19:43] <hallyn> anyway if you didn' twant dnsmasq-base, you better not want virbr0
[19:44] <hallyn> feh, i'll wait a bit on that one.  clearly i need to experiment.  thanks.
[19:45] <hallyn> stgraber: do you have any lxc precise-proposed changes pending?
[19:46] <stgraber> hallyn: nope
[19:46] <stgraber> hallyn: at this point it's best to stack without uploading as precise is frozen for the point release
[19:47] <stgraber> hallyn: unless it's a critical issue that should be fixed for the point release
[19:47] <hallyn> stgraber: suggestsions where to stack?
[19:47] <hallyn> nah, ,not critical, just a fix for the 'stop lxc-net breaks if LXC_USE_BRIDGE=false' bug
[19:47] <hallyn> in fact i'll just put it off until next week
[19:48] <stgraber> hallyn: either branch ubuntu:precise-proposed/lxc assuming it's valid and up to date or just attach some good old debdiffs to the bugs
[19:48] <hallyn> i didn't think precise-proposed had a bzr tree. cool.
[20:01] <ahs3> hallyn: just to make sure...there should be _no_ patches in netcf now, correct?
[20:03] <hallyn> ahs3: incorrect.  there should be 3
[20:03] <hallyn> fixpathsetp, add-tests-debian, and add-ncftool-manpage
[20:04] <ahs3> hallyn: oic.  yup.  got it.
[20:04] <hallyn> (all three forwarded upstream, should be droppec by 2.0.1 hopefully)
[20:06] <ahs3> k.  i'm going to fix that up and re-upload
[20:06] <hallyn> is that definately worth it?
[20:07] <ahs3> dunno.  i'd rather have it done right
[20:07] <hallyn> i guess it coudl be confusing not to.
[20:07] <hallyn> ok
[20:07]  * ahs3 is working on it now
[20:32] <arrrghhh> hello.  is it possible to run ubuntu server behind a proxy server?
[20:33] <rbasak> Yes.
[20:33] <arrrghhh> i added my proxy info when i installed, and it seemed to work.  but now i apt-get update and it does not.
[20:33] <jcastro> anyone know if hp cloud's storage thing provides simple http serving like s3/gcs do?
[20:33] <arrrghhh> i googled it, and everyone tells me to add some likes to /etc/bash.bashrc.  but i don't see anything there from the installer - where does the installer put the proxy info?
[20:36] <rbasak> Take a look around /etc/apt. There should be something setting Acquire::http::Proxy in there. If there's not, you need to add it. See the apt.conf manpage for details.
[20:36] <arrrghhh> ok thx
[20:37] <jcastro> ah, it seems HP storage does indeed do simple http serving
[20:38] <arrrghhh> rbasak, /etc/apt/apt.conf.... now why isn't it working is the question :P.  what is the 'proper' way to add a proxy globally to the system?
[20:39] <rbasak> On server, the best you can do is add set http_proxy in /etc/environment as far as I'm aware. But that doesn't necessarily cover everything
[20:39] <arrrghhh> yea i'm getting 407 proxy auth required.  i placed a username/password in there, but it doesn't seem tow ork.
[20:39] <arrrghhh> work*
[20:39] <arrrghhh> hrm.
[20:42] <rbasak> Not sure about proxy auth
[20:42] <rbasak> (for apt)
[20:43] <arrrghhh> i managed to get this working on ubuntu desktop
[20:44] <arrrghhh> i was "scared" to install server for this reason.  i figured since i got it working on desktop, i can get it working on server.
[20:44] <arrrghhh> but my solution isn't so elegant.  whenever apt would give me an error on the desktop version about proxy auth, i would fire up FF and it would ask me to auth.  then apt-get would work, for a period of time.
[20:44] <haxxpop> Where must I get sandbox to run untrusted app?
[20:45] <SpamapS> haxxpop: safest bet is true virtualization (kvm, xen, etc)
[20:45] <rbasak> sounds like your proxy is being generous
[20:45] <rbasak> Maybe you could wget to do something similar?
[20:46] <rbasak> Might be better to tunnel out, run a mirror, or configure your proxy to allow your server though
[20:46] <arrrghhh> rbasak, i'd like to get this working with the proxy, if possible.
[20:46] <arrrghhh> otherwise i'll just have to allow net access for a short period, then close it down.  i'd rather not have to go that route.
[20:47] <rbasak> looks like it apt does support proxy auth
[20:47] <rbasak> eg. http://www.onlinehowto.net/apt-get-via-authentication-proxy/1388
[20:47] <haxxpop> SpamapS: I don't want to use Virtual Machine because I just want to run only one app.
[20:48] <arrrghhh> haxxpop, but that ENSURES a good sandbox environment.
[20:49] <haxxpop> arrrghhh: I also want to get output from such app
[20:50] <jpds> haxxpop: lxc?
[20:50] <arrrghhh> haxxpop, so?
[20:51] <jpds> haxxpop: Otherwise, stick AppArmor on top of the app.
[20:51] <hallyn> arkose is also made for that
[20:51] <hallyn> (sits on top of lxc and apparmor)
[20:52] <arrrghhh> there's gotta be something else to this.  why does the proxy let me authenticate for firefox, but not for apt?  ugh.
[20:52] <haxxpop> jpds: how can I do that
[20:52] <arrrghhh> i don't understand what the difference is.  maybe i don't have an http proxy... i don't put http:// in front for the proxy on my workstation.
[20:53] <arrrghhh> can i use a PAC file?
[20:53] <jpds> haxxpop: cat one of the /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.* files.
[20:56] <jpds> haxxpop: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor
[20:57] <jpds> arrrghhh: sudo apt-get update -o Acquire::http::Proxy="http://user:password@proxyaddress:port/" ?
[20:57] <arrrghhh> jpds, hrm, let me try.
[20:57] <arrrghhh> i have a feeling it'll give me the same thing.  it's hitting the proxy
[20:57] <arrrghhh> for whatever reason it's not authenticating.
[20:58] <jpds> Check the proxy logs then.
[20:58] <arrrghhh> i don't have access to the proxy server.  oh well.
[20:58] <arrrghhh> so strange that i could get this to work on ubuntu desktop...
[21:00] <arrrghhh> is there another type of proxy server that i'm overlooking?
[21:00] <arrrghhh> i have a PAC file and the server itself...
[21:01] <arrrghhh> http://proxychains.sourceforge.net/ ?
[21:22] <arrrghhh> OK, i have a feeling it's our proxy.
[21:22] <arrrghhh> i ran into a thread where someone has the exact same problem, with the exact same proxy server.  i don't think i can solve it :/
[21:22] <lifeless> squid?
[21:23] <arrrghhh> lifeless, other direction.
[21:23] <arrrghhh> i am running ubuntu-server and i need to go thru a proxy to get to the 'net.
[21:23] <lifeless> arrrghhh: squid can run in both directions, which is why I asked.
[21:23] <lifeless> so saying other direction, doesn't rule anything out.
[21:24] <arrrghhh> oh i apologize.  usually when people mention squid they think i want to setup a proxy server :P
[21:24] <arrrghhh> no it's an ironport proxy server
[21:24] <lifeless> what auth scheme are you using ?
[21:25] <arrrghhh> lifeless, i don't know exactly.  on ubuntu desktop i could run firefox and authenticate.  on ubuntu-server, i can't figure out how to authenticate.
[21:25] <arrrghhh> in firefox, the user/pass window would just pop up.  i put in my username and password, then apt-get would work in the terminal.
[21:25] <arrrghhh> http://openubuntu.com/index.php/topic.1952.30.html
[21:25] <arrrghhh> er that didn't link to the thread, sorry.  1 sec
[21:26] <arrrghhh> http://openubuntu.com/index.php/topic,1952.30.html
[21:26] <arrrghhh> that does ^^
[21:27] <lifeless> arrrghhh: so, if you're using kerberos or ntlm or negotiate with the proxy, apt won't work
[21:28] <arrrghhh> lifeless, but firefox will?
[21:28] <lifeless> as it only knows basic auth
[21:28] <lifeless> right
[21:28] <arrrghhh> poop.  so what can i do?
[21:28] <arrrghhh> isn't there some package i can install to auth to the proxy?  crap, i had a tab open here...
[21:28] <lifeless> reconfigure the ironport to support basic authentication, or configure it to allow access to the ubuntu mirror you are using w/out any authentication.
[21:29] <lifeless> or use another intermediary proxy to do the authentication for you
[21:29] <arrrghhh> hrm
[21:29] <arrrghhh> i can't reconfigure the proxy server, unfortunately.  i don't have access to it.
[21:29] <lifeless> something like http://ntlmaps.sourceforge.net/
[21:29] <lifeless> (caveat: I haven't used that, just found it via a quick google search)
[21:30] <arrrghhh> yea that was it.
[21:30] <lifeless> you can validate that this is the problem by checking a tcpdump of your apt requests
[21:30] <arrrghhh> OK
[21:41] <arrrghhh> lifeless, bleh.  i'm having trouble with ntlmaps, but it still could be me.  can you tell me how to tcpdump apt so i can determine why it's failing?
[21:45] <lifeless> something like
[21:45] <lifeless> sudo tshark -i eth0 -X port 80 or port 8080
[21:45] <lifeless> or whatever port your proxy is on
[21:45] <lifeless> be sure you've configured apt to use the proxy
[21:48] <arrrghhh> hrm
[21:48] <arrrghhh> ok
[21:53] <adam_g> zul: what do we do about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10823/
[22:07] <zul> adam_g: its on my list to update this week
[22:16] <Salman> That ubuntu that help
[22:16] <Salman> Si
[22:17] <Salman> Someany helped me Ubuntu
[22:17] <arrrghhh> Salman, do you have a question?
[22:18] <Salman> arrrghhh: Help me
[22:18] <Salman> arrrghhh: How to unbanned ubuntu
[22:18] <arrrghhh> Salman, ask a question
[22:18] <arrrghhh> uhm
[22:18] <arrrghhh> i assume you mean #ubuntu?
[22:18] <arrrghhh> perhaps you're banned from flooding or something?  i can't unban you.
[22:19] <Salman> Ok :(
[22:26] <zaitzev> when I do mount --bind /some/dir/to/mount /target/dir - how do I unmount it? Is it umount /target/dir ?
[22:26] <zaitzev> I just want to make sure so I don't do something too wrong
[22:27] <arrrghhh> umount /target/dir is correct.
[22:27] <zaitzev> cool
[22:27] <zaitzev> atleast I get it right sometimes. :p
[22:32] <arrrghhh> lol
[22:37] <arrrghhh> lifeless, not sure if you are interested or not but cntlm did the trick.
[22:37] <arrrghhh> not sure why, but i couldn't get the other one to work.  cntlm did a great job tho, works great!!!
[22:38] <lifeless> cool
[22:40] <zaitzev> does usermod -l change the name of the home directory as well as the username itself?
[22:42] <zaitzev> oh nvm, it's done with -d :)
[23:16] <dolv> ubuntu server 12.04 (headless) how to change video mode?
[23:17] <lifeless> if you're headless you have no video.
[23:18] <dolv> i headlees but i need to change video mode for terminal.
[23:19] <dolv> meaning 80x30 GVA and so on
[23:19] <dolv> meaning 80x30 VGA and so on
[23:20]  * zaitzev wonders what uses 80x30
[23:20] <dolv> 80 columns by 30 rows
[23:21] <zaitzev> I know what the numbers imply, but where? Do you mean putty?
[23:22] <zaitzev> because that's the only place I can imagine those numbers being relevant, to its window size.
[23:23] <zaitzev> or am I missing something?
[23:26] <dolv> OK. The problem is as follows. During a boot process on some moment dispay starts wrongly display text. and I can only some how read whean i connect to server remotedly. I need to repare video. may be problem in some drive or something else. how to verify and cure&
[23:28] <dolv> I see that some symbols are displayed but they can't be read. It is smashed
[23:29] <dolv> video is on D815 intel integrated cheapset
[23:33] <dolv> zaitzev: do you spaek russian or ukraininan&
[23:36] <dolv> any ideas, guys?
[23:37] <zaitzev> oh, hey
[23:37] <zaitzev> no sorry
[23:38] <zaitzev> someone else might tho, if you just hang around here for a while.
[23:40] <dolv> i think it is vga/driver problems. Can someone consult, please?