[00:03] hmm, rsnapshot is being weird, it's only running the removes and moves, but not actually rsyncing anything from the server [00:14] Azelphur: I didn't say 0.9 is bad, I just said that 0.8 is stable and 0.9 has a lot of bugs [00:14] haha [02:16] Hi === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [06:36] morning all [07:06] Morning === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [07:23] good morning pretties [07:39] Morning all [07:42] good morning diplo \o/ [07:46] Took the kids to the Natural History Museum yesterday \o/ [07:46] Exhausted today /o\ [07:46] So tired! [07:48] aww :D [07:48] was it good fun? :) [07:48] yeah, drove to Hounslow Central, and then tubed it in to South Kensington [07:48] The smiles all the way made it worth it tbh [07:49] https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/378356_316854315077166_1084720986_n.jpg [07:56] :D [07:56] they are adorable! [07:57] Not so sure after 12 hours but yeah they are good boys [08:02] Herro peeps :) [08:02] diplo: hehe [08:02] heya bigclamster [08:02] morning bigcalm [08:02] bigcalm: you should have some babies! they are cute [08:02] :O [08:02] * bigcalm runs away [08:03] Human spawn are evil and to be avoided [08:03] IMHO :) [08:03] christel: replace babies with kittens and I shall agree with you ;) === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [08:07] hehe [08:07] i'm not big on kittens [08:07] i think i'd rather have another baby than a kitten and i dont want more babies! that's how much i want a kitten [08:07] because sense... i make it [08:08] All that she wants, is another kitten, she's gone tomorrow... [08:09] * diplo sets +b on bigcalm [08:09] Bwuhaha [08:09] Showing your age boyo! [08:10] Looks like the sun gods are looking down on me! [08:10] sun \o/ [08:10] Taking the boys camping Friday, supposedly another mini heat wave \o/ [08:10] ooh yes! i am envious of your camping trip :D [08:10] I've been petrified for last few days with this weather :D [08:10] hehe [08:10] It's drizzling here today :) [08:11] I was driving home yesterday around reading area i think and the M4 slowed to like 10mph it was thick with rain [08:12] it is Grey(white?) here i am not conviced it will be a Very Nice Day [08:13] 9hello [08:14] Myrtti my pretty girl \o/ [08:14] I'm still proper disappointed we didn't make it to the BBQ :-( [08:14] how are you? [08:14] we got the car back from the mechanic on Saturday btw [08:14] yes! i am still disappointed too :( you would have loved it [08:14] ooh lets have a NEW BBQ NOW [08:14] Finnish Edition! [08:14] oh but we couldn't come :-( [08:14] as THE CAR IS STILL BROKEN [08:17] long story short: the original problem might have been that a thingamabob that detects if the fan should run or not OR the coolant fan itself is broken, which overheated the engine, which was the final blow to the perished coolant pipes, which the mechanic replaced now, charging £450. He didn't want to fix the fan problem as it is as, if not more expensive than the job he already did... [08:19] and there's no way of telling if it's worth doing if the head gaskets are going to fail, and the only way to know if they are, is either to use the car for a while and see if it's ok, or take the engine apart - which would be as expensive as replacing them and the fan anyway [08:19] so - we've got a car that we can drive in country lanes without congestion [08:29] good morning all [08:29] Hi all [08:29] * jussi hides from alanbellchoochoo [08:29] my unity 3d desktop fails to start... all I get is the background image and ctl-alt-Tab keys etc [08:29] any idea how to fix that? ubuntu2d works ok [08:30] sorry, I meant ctrl-alt-T and so on [08:30] Ctrl+alt +t then run ccsm and turn unity back on [08:30] unity --reset [08:31] (that will reset your settings too) [08:31] That too === jpds_ is now known as jpds [08:48] thanks guys [08:48] I'll give it a go [08:49] how can I turn on unity in ccsm? [08:50] ah got it, it's the unity plugin [08:50] thanks folks [08:51] While we're talking unity / compiz: How can I disable edge maximization? [08:59] good morning everyone. [09:02] morning brob [09:02] morning hoover [09:11] dunno hoovy [09:12] anyone tried reactos lately? [09:14] surprised to hear it still has legs [09:17] I'm just perplexed as to what makes the news on /. [09:19] I stopped reading /. a year or two ago [09:20] I follow it on Twitter now, occasionally there's something of interet there [09:20] basically all my 'IT news' comes from reddit now [09:21] you mean I should auction my 4digit /.-Id on ebay? ;-) [09:21] id.. didn't ever bother with one of those :) [09:22] yeah pretty much me as well BigRedS [09:22] If you're going to, it's only going to depreciate now :) [09:22] I think the news item was more about the fact that reactos was presented to an evil russian despot [09:22] ;-) [09:22] But news normally implies relevance [09:22] which, generally, means that russia and reactos can't be the mail protagonists [09:23] *main [09:29] I'm sure this is a common question, but is there a way to open an email attachment in LO that renders it editable? [09:34] Morning all [09:35] Morning davmor2 [09:35] gord: what's your excuse for Thursday this week? ;) [09:35] bigcalm: I was about to ask something very similar :D [09:37] morning [09:38] Hi hoovie [10:03] gord: So are you coworking on Thursday? [10:05] bigcalm: If you haven't gedified your Xoom try it now you should get ICS [10:05] bigcalm: https://www.facebook.com/121867580498/posts/10151218865945499 === hunter is now known as Guest3552 [10:08] davmor2: that's great, thanks :) === Guest3552 is now known as Hunter68uk === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:14] Guys any ideas why my dvb tuner show diferent color layers in diferent locations? :D [10:21] bigcalm: ofcourse the USA's GED is on jellybean so that could be another 12 months before you get it :D === It is now known as Guest94336 [10:24] good to see ARM related news on the bbc site http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19141807 [10:24] Aivaras, sounds like a rendering issue, not a tuner issue [10:25] Aivaras, the tuner is receiving a raw MPEG video feed, which doesn't use the colour separation you describe [10:30] davmor2: seems likely [10:30] bigcalm: I'll bring mine on Thursday see how they compare :) [10:31] Ok... [10:35] directhex: Yeah I know it something from SW side, but I don't know what to do [10:46] davmor2: I'm surprised that we are the only people to sign our emails in the Wolves LUG [10:47] bigcalm: Ron does too [10:48] bigcalm: oh maybe not anymore [10:48] Yes, I was very surprised that he doesn't [10:48] bigcalm: He might of switched it off as it is his business account [10:49] bigcalm: some windows machines might not handle it correctly [10:49] I see [10:49] bigcalm: one to ask him on Wednesday he used too :) [10:50] I don't harass my clients with signed emails. Most of them will think it's infected email or something :S [10:55] I have a file that basically sets a load of bash variables, is tehre an easy way to 'dump' this; get the name and values of each of the variables printed to screen? [10:56] BigRedS, you mean, like env command? [10:57] ah. yeah. [10:57] :) [11:18] bigcalm: How is ICS? [11:19] DJones: erm, okay so far. Haven't used it other than to update the tablet [11:19] DJones: though things seem to be smoother and quicker again [11:20] Thats good, I saw another article saying that the SG3 was due for jelly bean shortly [11:21] my last tablet, had android 2.3. now with the nexus7, and 4.1.1, it is a huge difference, and is so much better. [11:21] * bigcalm slithers away for lunch [11:21] I bet it is, I can see the differeces between my tablet on 4.0 & my phone which is on 2.3 [11:22] here also, my htc dream, is still back on 2.3 [11:22] I just upgraded my phone to CM9 [11:23] Only 2 months to new phone anyway, should be time for any 4.1 bugs to be ironed out [11:23] looks like they've done lots of bad things to the default ui [11:25] i have seen one interest5ing bug, when the sims is starting up, 4.1's task switcher dissappears, untill you press it again, and then stays there. [11:26] Girl from work who had a baby 3 weeks ago has just brought the baby in to show people, boss looked at her and said "Oh, so you weren't just fat then" :) [11:26] :) [11:27] oh dear. [12:00] i thought male chauvinism had died out in the south.. [12:01] brobostigon, you can play sims on android? whats it like? [12:02] mungojerry: it isnt bad, it can be stuttered sometimes, even on my nexus7. but generally i think it needs a decent size screen. [12:08] brobostigon, i have a touchpad [12:08] my wife likes sims, but mainly just sits there building the houses and doesn't play the game [12:10] i am not familier with the thinkpad. [12:10] touchpad is approx same size as ipad [12:10] ok. [12:10] hence games are nice to play [12:10] i can imagine. [12:11] sims3 "this game cannot be installed in your country" [12:11] mungojerry: i have. the sims freeplay here. [12:12] ah, simcity, old favourite. [12:12] poor reviews though [12:15] i am very wary of EA [12:15] ok. [12:16] seems that their support is non existent [12:16] :( [12:17] the number of android games seems to be exploding [12:18] agreed. [12:18] i guess the tablet drives it [12:18] yes. [12:25] wow, just been on the register , haven'tread that site for a while - i think it's got worse [12:27] yeah, I had that the other week [12:28] I read it and thought "so this is why I stopped reading it" [12:28] yeah, exactly! [12:28] then I realised that wasn't why I stopped, but it's probably why I'll not start again [12:28] except i didn't make a concious decision to stop, [12:28] ^^exactlu [12:28] yeah, I just got a new job that involved doing work while I was at work [12:28] i#'m with you [12:28] that put an end to most of my messing around on the net activities [12:29] either that or it coincided with g+ [12:29] and getting more reasonable sources of news [12:29] than the stupid nonsense articles they write [12:29] yeah, g+ has surprised me with its usefulness [12:30] especially since I just only follow (or whatever the g+ism is) people who write about things which interest me [12:43] * bigcalm slithers back in === KillerJim|Away is now known as KillerJim === livingdaylight is now known as buddylinux [12:45] * davmor2 steps on the tail of the boa constrictor that has obviously eaten bigcalm in an attempt to free him [12:46] Heh, weird :P [12:46] I doubt I'm that nutritious [12:47] 19 golds for team GB woohoo 1 more and we beat last times [12:55] NL just won another [12:57] i don't see the top of the medal table changing. 3rd isn't half bad for our little island [12:59] directhex: there are a lot of medals win able yet but I'm guessing that a lot will be won by the USA and China limiting movement for other teams so if we are lucky it'll stay the same, but they have done us proud with their winning :) [13:19] afternoon all [13:22] where did we finish for the last one? [13:22] i didn't realise we won so many ..maybe i was thinking of sydney [13:22] http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/08/announcing-the-ubuntu-app-showdown-winners/ [13:24] * mungojerry installs lightread [13:24] great way of introducing malware to thousands of people, :D [13:26] mungojerry: 4th with Russia 3rd and Germany and Australia snapping at our heels [13:27] thanks :D [13:27] * bigcalm sighs [13:28] bigcalm: that's my job :P [13:28] davmor2: no kidding :P [13:28] Sighing at the showdown [13:30] Guys, how to download torents that are magnet link from shell? [13:31] lightread has frozen on me :( [13:33] mungojerry: has it frozen or is it syncing your account with google reader [13:33] syncing so slowly that it is unrepsonive? [13:35] mungojerry : Mine took along time to sync, went very slow the first time [13:39] Hmm just opened mine and it's not doing anything either [13:39] :D [13:44] I do wish lightread would get into the software centre, currently stuck on review iirc [13:46] drussell: it's there now [13:47] davmor2: ooh really? [13:47] * drussell checks [13:50] davmor2: so it is :o) great news [14:01] BIGCLAM [14:02] ok, 30 mins and no progress...i think i have to kill ilghtread [14:02] maybe it's just syncing my mail off to a russian website [14:03] ah, works better now [14:03] * directhex syncs mungojerry to russia [14:03] they should run app contests more often [14:03] CHRISTEL [14:03] been wanting to ditch liferea for yonks === KillerJim is now known as KillerJim|Away [14:04] * davmor2 sends mungojerry to russia figuring it'll be quicker and cheaper [14:04] horosho [14:05] bigcalm: why you sigh at the apps showdown? [14:06] davmor2: ask popey [14:06] popeys jacked out of the matrix [14:06] bigcalm: hehehehehe [14:06] :| [14:07] bigcalm: in other news hows ICS for you? [14:07] isn't google reader being retired? [14:07] ali1234, that would be sad [14:07] but fixable [14:07] davmor2: it works and the tablet appears to be quick to respond once again. Haven't used it other than that [14:08] it seems to have deleted all my rss feeds [14:08] and replaced them with "recommended items" [14:08] it's still there arm [14:08] atm [14:10] bigcalm: in other news, I got to say svoice sucks in comparison to googles, say team gb medals to both [14:12] ok, why does it only show 10 items from each feed? [14:13] WFM [14:14] i didn't think it was possible, but google reader is even worse than it was last time i used it [14:14] still at least it is better than the new nokia thing that only shows 3 items from each feed [14:15] edit preferences doesn't work though [14:15] show notifcations is the bottom line that i see [14:16] oh, i see [14:16] you can';t have mrore than 10 unread items, ever [14:17] i can see 20 [14:17] then you are subscribed to two feeds [14:18] this is just plain weird [14:18] somehow i managed to mark 12 unread in bbc feed [14:18] no idea how [14:21] hmm i don't see the ubuntu one nautilus options anymore [14:22] http://ubuntuone.com/3szt7WgRbGnZiW1JnYaNbB << ali1234 [14:22] i'm using the website [14:23] i still prefer to use firefox live bookmarks for rss [14:24] oh, i never use the website [14:24] it must be something it picks up from the feed [14:24] on my youtube feed all the most recent items are read, and older ones aren't [14:25] oh, wait, actually they are just in random order [14:25] looks like youtube rss sets the post date as whatever time you reload the feed [14:27] again, that's cos youtube rss sucks === Ng_ is now known as Ng [15:25] hiya [15:34] best medal haul since 1908 YAY [15:34] wasn't that a GB olympics too? [15:37] suddenly the lottery is worthwhile after all [15:40] mungojerry: it's not the winning, it's the taking part that counts [15:40] :) [15:41] BigRedS: tell that to those who got 4th place ;o) [15:41] BigRedS, thats just what losers say [15:43] hehehe [15:43] mungojerry: yes, it was another London Olympics (although sorta by accident as was supposed to be in Rome, but then Mt Vesuvius errupted and Italy needed to put all it's money towards recovery from that instead) [15:52] BigRedS, i prefer the idea that you win with pride and lose with dignity [15:53] as in you accept a loss and congratulate the other team, rather than be abusive towards them or the officials [15:53] a bit like 1948 when we didi itat short notice cos every other city was rubble [15:54] this is more attitude to wards winners and losers [15:54] like this: http://i.imgur.com/mzoCW.gif [15:54] lol [15:54] if winning isn't important apply that to business meetings, job interviews etc [15:55] as in you are competing with others for sales of your products you want to win those deals, losing isn't an option there is it, [15:55] but if you do lose out you learn from it [16:02] i just took the boy to a barber for the first time.. it was odd.. i find the strangest people.. the barber is a barber/accountant/financial advisor... [16:24] christel, lol [16:26] christel: Barber or Scalper.... not a lot of difference [16:26] haha [16:26] christel: sounds useful. You could get much accomplished during the boy's haircut [16:26] christel: I speak as an accountant :) [16:26] Pendulum: ooh good thinking! [16:26] DJones: :D [16:27] DJones: take up barbering! [16:27] Thats not a good idea, if you've seen me prune plants, I start at the roots and work upwards [16:27] haha [16:28] I have been known to pack fireworks & petrol around particularly stuborn tree trunks [16:30] ! [16:30] if you're an accountant.. shouldn't you be slightly awkward and very shy and quiet and a bit odd [16:30] or is that just *my* accountant [16:32] :D [16:32] that sounded much more offensive than i meant for it to be! [16:33] christel: I am very shy, very quiet and very odd :) [16:33] But time to go home now [16:33] but you blow stuff up! [16:34] aww happy hometime <3 [16:37] 21 golds come on gb === GBGone is now known as jpmorgue [19:48] can I buy a nice external doodad to stream iplayer/itvplayer/4od/stuff to my tv? [19:48] Laney: Raspberry Pi? :) [19:49] I think we have different definitions of 'nice' in this area :-) [19:52] Laney: ha! Well you could put a nice case round it :) I think the Roku box is available in the UK, http://www.roku.com/uk [19:53] jpmorgue: oh, that looks good [19:54] and, dare I say it, http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tv cough cough [19:58] oh yeah, where can I buy that ;-) [20:02] * bigcalm looks about [20:08] o/ [20:09] Hello mgdm :) [20:10] How goes it? [20:11] Exceedingly busy [20:11] Have decided that Symfony 2.0 is like Symfony 1.x only by name [20:12] Yes, indeed [20:13] Got a 4 day course week after next. I fear it'll be kill or cure [20:13] How's you? [20:13] Quite busy too, but I've just secured a place at Oggcamp \o/ [20:16] Sweet :D [20:23] AW BOO now i feel even more sad not to be going [20:24] :( [20:24] christel: I shall attempt to have your share of the drinks [20:25] christel: awww [20:27] * bigcalm squeezes christel [20:27] good lad [20:29] gah, is there any way to cancel an order on ebay? xD [20:29] accidentally made an offer on quantity one when I was supposed to make it on 4 (the seller knows this, so I guess he accepted it by mistake too) [20:30] mgdm: if you have to use a Debian server, do you make use of dotdeb? [20:30] what's dotdeb? [20:30] bigcalm: I've been known to, yes [20:30] MartijnVdS: http://www.dotdeb.org/ [20:31] Laney, you asked for me yesterday [20:31] bigcalm: but.. why?! [20:31] dotdeb is a low-quality out-of-archive repo for all the things [20:31] mgdm: my boss won't use Ubuntu and insists on Debian. He also seems to like to use dotdeb in the past. Was wondering if it was still relevant [20:31] dh_make all over the shop [20:32] directhex: "But it's debs!" [20:32] * bigcalm shrugs and sighs [20:32] directhex: i was probably asking for your opinion on tellies [20:32] wait, that's getdeb [20:32] Laney, get the big one [20:33] no i want a small one :( [20:33] Humm, there seems to be a swing towards Nginx rather than Apache [20:33] people will look at you and go "huh, that guy only has a few inches. how pathetic" [20:33] Yeah, I've been meaning to try nginx one day when I don't need mod_jk [20:34] thirty two inches [20:34] Get 27 [20:34] Erm, 36 [20:34] Ack [20:34] GTE ONE HUNDRED AND TWO [20:34] 37 [20:34] * bigcalm looks at his wine glass [20:34] Is it wise to drink and set up servers? [20:34] if you want internet features, buy a samsung, they're the least terrible on the market. [20:34] bigcalm, don't root drunk. [20:35] nothing seems to have itv player [20:35] or 4od [20:35] are they not things? [20:35] I doubt I'd be on a computer if I were drunk ;) [20:35] sony has itv player iirc [20:35] directhex: no [20:35] iPlayer and demand 5, yes [20:35] YouView has 4oD, that's the first 'connected TV' platform I've seen them on [20:37] http://www.t3.com/news/itv-player-app-confirmed-for-samsung-smart-tv-platform ? [20:37] I downloaded the SDK for that once [20:37] 2011 API, inevitably. those with a 2010 samsung get shafted [20:37] it's _horrible_ to program for [20:37] MartijnVdS, "embedded hardware vendor" is another word for "idiot" [20:37] good god, I messed up that ebay order so hilariously badly [20:38] I submitted a wrong offer which he accepted, I made a new one, then I accidentally retracted the new one rather than the old one [20:38] maybe i'll get a youview box [20:38] \o/ [20:38] directhex: Yeah, I talked to someone who used to work at one once [20:38] directhex: I think it was UDS-Prague [20:39] Laney, skip the youview, get a ps3, which has iplayer, 40d and itv! [20:39] i've only been to UDS once [20:39] directhex: which one? [20:40] barcelona [20:40] the very first one? [20:40] Mataro? [20:40] no [20:40] Because I went to that one [20:40] come to copenhagen! [20:40] ("Death in a bag") [20:41] (that was the hotel-provided lunch in Mataro.. it was scary :)) [20:44] i'm not going anywhere this year === WebPigeon__ is now known as webpigeon [21:14] mgdm: what's your PHP documenter of choice? [21:35] bigcalm: phpdocumentor 2 (AKA docblox) [21:35] http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/08/06/beware-tech-abandoners-people-without-facebook-accounts-are-suspicious/ [21:36] yay forbes. [21:47] Azelphur: just feeds in to what i was saying the other day [21:47] 10 years ago using the internet made you weird [21:48] today, everyone uses the internet. except they don't they just use facebook. [21:48] it's the same thing. [21:49] hehe [21:49] tl;dr muggles still think we're weird [21:49] xD [21:51] ICE CREAM [21:51] * christel does a little dance [21:51] :o [21:51] I want ice cream :( [21:51] awww [21:51] also ice cream at 11pm? o.O [21:51] AlanBell ate it all :( [21:51] haha [21:51] WHY YES [21:51] :D [21:51] any time is ice cream time \o/ [21:52] yes! you == perfect! [21:52] hehe [21:53] nomnom [21:53] \o/ [21:54] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2012/August/2012-08-07-214518_610x777_scrot.png I bought shiny things today \o/ [21:54] there was icecream and I accidentally the whole thing [21:54] yummy [21:54] Azelphur: i say! :D [21:54]